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Ianab Send message Joined: 11 Jun 08 Posts: 732 Credit: 20,635,586 RAC: 5 |
I go with the 'Spread it out with a xxxx' method. Reason is that you want the thinnest possible layer in the junction. Only enough to fill the microscopic imperfections in the heatsink and chip cover. They look smooth, but if you get them under a powerfull microscope they look like the Himalayan mountains. If you seat them together with no compund 90% of the surface doesn't actually touch, and has an air gap. Lousy for heat transfer. Thermal compound is a much better heat conductor than air, but it's not as good as solid copper or aluminuium. So any extra in the joint above what is needed to fill in the air gaps is actually making the thermal junction less efficient. The 'line' or 'grain of rice' may be simpler to apply, and 'good enough', especially if the compund has good flow and spreads out well. But getting that nice thin layer spread out first should give better results. Of course most of my machines are old salvaged junkers and not overclocked beasts, but stripping them down and replacing the factory 'chewing gum' with a nice thin layer of generic silver paste seems to help them a lot. Ian |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I go with the 'Spread it out with a xxxx' method. The flow characteristics of MX-2 respond well to the simple technique......but would probably would equally well or better with the straightedge spread technique. I tried licking it smooth with my tongue once......but that only left a bad taste in my mouth.......so much for that technique. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
AriZonaMoon* Send message Joined: 26 Apr 06 Posts: 5556 Credit: 1,541,289 RAC: 0 |
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Luke Send message Joined: 31 Dec 06 Posts: 2546 Credit: 817,560 RAC: 0 |
Hi Moon...! Probably not by Christmas, I am still waiting on a few components, see here: So perhaps sometime round the 27-29th I will have time to get it built! However, it will still be hard to get to my 31st deadline. Oops... just remembered I need to buy a cat5 cable. Anyway, it was Saturday yesterday, so I finally had time to set up the desk. It took about 2 hours. And here it is in the crunching den (spare unused room)... . Usually, the curtains are closed... And, the actual desk was too big for what could fit, so I had too saw off 5mm to the bottom legs, and 6mm of the side to fit under the other desk. - Luke. - Luke. |
Luke Send message Joined: 31 Dec 06 Posts: 2546 Credit: 817,560 RAC: 0 |
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hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
Well, this question has been nagging me the past few days... will the graphics card fit in the case. So as of about 5 minutes ago I decided to answer it. My goodness what a small case. How are you going to get air flow? I had to remodel two of my counters to put larger cases in as I couldn't keep the small boxes cool and they just had celerons in them. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
Niko Send message Joined: 14 Dec 09 Posts: 123 Credit: 70,041 RAC: 0 |
Lucky! I bought a GTS 250 and it didn't fit :-( HDD is in the way - can't move it... |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
Lucky! I bought a GTS 250 and it didn't fit :-( I had to get a bay insert for one of my machines that had 4 HD's in it. Then it fit under the CD and had an extra fan. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
Luke Send message Joined: 31 Dec 06 Posts: 2546 Credit: 817,560 RAC: 0 |
I wouldn't call it small... it's the NZXT Lexa Blackline Mid-Tower ATX case. You can't compare it to the Antec 1200, but it certainly isn't a microATX case. It only looks smaller because the HDD bay is rotated 90 degrees, so the HDD's face the side (downside is I may have to buy 90 degree SATA connectors) which means the bay wall blocks the larger graphics cards @Niko: You might be able to rotate the HDD bay with a few tools and some time. There are guides out there to rotate the bay of my case... - Luke. - Luke. |
FiveHamlet Send message Joined: 5 Oct 99 Posts: 783 Credit: 32,638,578 RAC: 0 |
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hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
I wouldn't call it small... it's the NZXT Lexa Blackline Mid-Tower ATX case. Oh OK just looks it in the picture. I have a huge case leftover from my Water/Peltier days so most look small. LOL Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
Luke Send message Joined: 31 Dec 06 Posts: 2546 Credit: 817,560 RAC: 0 |
No problem getting GTX295's in this case. Woah! Nice setup you've got there Dave... whats the case you have there? It's not instantly recognizable... I've got red LED fans pre-installed in the NZXT and I bought 1 red cold cathode and a blue cold cathode. I don't want to mix the colors too much. - Luke. |
FiveHamlet Send message Joined: 5 Oct 99 Posts: 783 Credit: 32,638,578 RAC: 0 |
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hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
Heres mine from another thread before I added second Video card. my cruncher Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
Luke Send message Joined: 31 Dec 06 Posts: 2546 Credit: 817,560 RAC: 0 |
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zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65750 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
A big case, Hmm, Good: The HAF 932 does pretty good as It will take a 13" long card, Bad: Dust Magnet as there are no filters, Filters have to be added, I'm adding DEMCifilters as they stick on the outside magnetically and custom sizes can be made, there are some that are already made the 932 of course and their Here. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
FiveHamlet Send message Joined: 5 Oct 99 Posts: 783 Credit: 32,638,578 RAC: 0 |
Dont't honestly know if it is still available. I will put more pics of the build if I can work out how to upload them. Dave |
Niko Send message Joined: 14 Dec 09 Posts: 123 Credit: 70,041 RAC: 0 |
Thanks Luke - both HDDs in my case were parallel to the mother board so it takes only a low profile GPU. The CD bays are full. I picked up a NZXT Guardian 921 Mid-Tower ATX Case w/ Xion 630w PSU bundle. Going to transfer the components from my Dell over the holidays. |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
A big case, Hmm, Good: The HAF 932 does pretty good as It will take a 13" long card, Bad: Dust Magnet as there are no filters, Filters have to be added, I'm adding DEMCifilters as they stick on the outside magnetically and custom sizes can be made, there are some that are already made the 932 of course and their Here. Heck with the filters I got a compressor, no cat hair can stand up to that. I also use "Ideal" Electronic Switch and Contact cleaner every few months and even with no smoking in the house it doesn't drip pretty. Dries pretty much instantly. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
FiveHamlet Send message Joined: 5 Oct 99 Posts: 783 Credit: 32,638,578 RAC: 0 |
I think that this link should go to my i7 Build album. http://s614.photobucket.com/albums/tt229/FiveHamlet/i7%20Build/ EDIT Added a couple more pics. Dave |
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