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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
He's such an anti-Semite A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family has Jewish roots. Seems we found a self hater. Like Stalin a noted Austrian Dictator and other politically evil people hiding ones past is tantamount to receving ones popular support in ones own country In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
LiliKrist Send message Joined: 12 Aug 09 Posts: 333 Credit: 143,167 RAC: 0 |
In the news said "By making anti-Israeli statements he is trying to shed any suspicions about his Jewish connections. He feels vulnerable in a radical Shia society." Huummm...in my opinion, if someone had embraced a religion, and then consciously he was moving the other religious, then there must be something that does not fit with the old religion. And because he ever embraced Jews, so he knew the positive and negative. So if he's been a lot of harsh criticism against the Jews, maybe indeed like that the fact. Beside that, Ahmadinejad did not deny that the name was changed when his family moved to Tehran in the 1950s, although he never revealed the name before and did not explain the reason for the renaming. And the 'changed' happen when he was only aged four years old. And I think The Daily Telegraph "Fishing on murky's water" to boost sales. N = R x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x L |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
I'd like to think the paper has better things to worry about than making money on a free website. However He seems to think that by belittling all things Jewish that He's distancing himself from his own history. Stalin did this one better. He had killed everyone that knew him as a child. I also find it amusing that a former Jew is now the most anti-Jew out there. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
malignantpoodle Send message Joined: 3 Feb 09 Posts: 205 Credit: 421,416 RAC: 0 |
I can't say that I'm all that surprised to be honest. After all, it's not how we're born or our ancestral past which makes us who we are, rather the perspectives and ideologies that we choose to live by; none of which are exclusive to any particular genetic makeup. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
Thats why it was so easy for the Nazis to get eastern European countries to turn on the Jews. If the Ideology gets you a pass on the horror then join the club. Whether than club is right or wrong people seem to want to follow the crowd In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26 |
The Nazis were able to succeed because the people fell into 4 group. 1. Many people didn't have a clue what the Nazis were up to because they were kept in the dark or didn't put in the effort to find out. 2. Some people had an idea, but felt is was not best to rock the boat. 3. Some people knew what was going on but were profiting off it. 4. Some people knew what was going on and helped the Jews in any way they could. The sad part is the last group was very small and we see the results today. We have not learned this lesson today as Obama told use exactly what he was going to do if he got elected and he is keeping his word and taking us down the road to communism but people didn't understand this. McCain on the other hand didn't speak much about his dark side which was he helped pass many bills that were liberal and he was not the conservative that he made himself out to be. He was heading the same way as Obama, just not as fast. People don't seem to be getting any better about spotting the used car salesman line. The best way to spot a lie is to listen. After a while, the person will conflict with a statement they made in the past. Once this happens, you know that person can't be trusted unless a full explanation is made for the conflict. Both Obama and McCain failed this test and while some of the other candidates passed this test, they never made it out of the primaries. Now back to dictators, the are easy to understand. A dictator will do what ever they have to do to stay on top. Ahmadinejad is not dumb and while I am not sure what he is up to, he is playing several moves ahead. I suspect he is trying to develop a harmless image so he can go out and wipe out some more people. Number one on my list would be Israel, but it could be the few Jews that live in Iran. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
The Nazis were able to succeed because the people fell into 4 group. I think Martin Niemoeller summed it up rather well: In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
Communism? look we have a constitution If we elect someone who is a communist, big deal. They are still forced to work their administration under the rules that are present. Sure they could run things like they want like W did where a signing statement gets him out of enforcing laws. Last I checked that isnt in the constitution. That being said SO what. Should I call Bush a Fascist since he made it quite clear that he was in bed and colluding with big business to rape America financially then get the gov't to pay for it in the end. BTW we are the gov't when Big business gets a bailout. Seems the Sureme court is ruling on Business as being a person. Business would like to have things their way all the time. Low taxes, major tax breaks, etc. whats next voting rights, marriage, divorce, adopting children? And we arent talking about Obama here we are talking about a recently converted muslim who is a Jew by descent. A Muslim that has such animosity towards his former religion that he's in denial about the Holocaust. As if 6 million people did a magic disappearing act. as if all the evidence photos personal accounts and concentration camps around Europe are just Nazi amusement parks. Let alone the German nations admission of guilt over the matter. This guy is a loon In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26 |
In case you haven't looked in the last 100 years or so, our leaders have not been following the Constitution for a long time. They all do it and I don't care which party you are talking about. They have this idea of a living constitution which when translated means the constitution is what we want it to be instead of what the founding fathers wrote. My point is that we are no better at determining the heart of our leaders than where the the people of Germany. And also there is no punishment for violating the word of the constitution so they get away with it. Besides that, even the Courts will not call them out on most of their actions. As someone who believes in ET, you should be careful about calling Ahmadinejad a Loon. You and I have different standards we live our life by. It's the reason why we tend to disagree on many issues.. Ahmadinejad comes from a much different culture than us and judging him by our standards is very dangerous. In his culture what he did may gain him points in the population instead of looking incostant. If we judge ET by our standards, we very well may start a war because ET's standards may be way different than ours. I know I shouldn't show my age, but I lived in the 50's and it was a different time. My dad owned a company that installed septic systems. Even though my dad was the boss and owner, he never knew if he was going to work that day or have a fight with the men. Now days we are so civilized that something would end up in court. That is how much we as a country have changed less than 50 years. To correctly judge Ahmadinejad's actions, we must understand how the Iranians think and would react to this news because they are the ones he is playing to. Until we learn that other cultures don't live by the same standards that we do, we will miss judge them and will never see world peace. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
BTW the Ayatollahs run Iran not Ahmadinejad. His election was a farse. He is a figurehead for the religious leaders. Anything he says can be disregarded as ong as the Ayatollahs make the decisions there. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26 |
I think Ahmadinejad is like a dog on a lease. He can go where ever he wants as long as the Ayatollahs don't jerk on the other end. The question is how far with the Ayatollahs allow him to wander. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
he's a toothless dog on the end of a leash. He's got a bark that makes people notice but he is completely at the mercy or the lack thereof the Ayatollahs He's no more in power than Rush limbaugh In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26 |
He must have something or the people would not have protested so much when the election was rigged. I admit it that it could have been symbolic, but risking your life for a symbol? Again, you need to understand the culture in order to understand why the election was so important. |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
He's no more in power than Rush limbaugh Then we will see if he can buy his own NFL team. me@rescam.org |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
I'm pretty sure nobody on any NFL team would play for him In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
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