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Message 892990 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 7:11:28 UTC

Hi all,

I've been running optimized versions for over a year now and would like to start using CUDA as well. According to the message I get when starting the manager my videocard is capable of doing so.

I use Ubuntu Linux 9.0.4 64-bits,
Boinc version is 6.6.20
nVidia driver version is 180.44
GPU is GeForce 8500GT, 512MB ram
CPU is Quad Q6600, capable of doing SSSE3

What do I need, where can I get it (there are 1001 different versions, so it's chaos finding the right one) and how do I install and configure it?
Could somebody with good knowledge of Linux please help me? Thanks in advance.

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Message 893143 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 20:15:13 UTC - in response to Message 892990.  

Thank you all so very much for all your help. It's overwhelming.

85 people read the thread and the amount of answers, hints and tips I got: 0
It's fantastic.

Thank you very much.


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Message 893146 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 20:25:03 UTC
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Just because someone reads a message does not imply one knows the answer. I could suggest asking in the Q&A section - Linux forum or CUDA forum.

AFAIK, Seti doesn't have a Linux/CUDA application.

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Message 893149 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 20:30:06 UTC - in response to Message 893146.  

Just because someone reads a message does not imply one knows the answer. I could suggest asking in the Q&A section - Linux forum or CUDA forum.

AFAIK, Seti doesn't have a Linux/CUDA application.


So, my sarcastic post worked. Thanks Aurora Borealis for your answer.
There is no Linux cuda application? Why are we discriminated (again)?
I don't get it. The best operating system in the world and almost nobody wants it.

Well, I just go on the old way then. Once again thank you for your answer.

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Message 893151 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 20:34:32 UTC
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Sei doch nicht soo negativ.. ;-)

Das ist doch n "amerikanisches" Forum..
Und die meißten Leser kommen aus den USA, oder?

Und wir Europäer sind ca. 8 bis 10 Std. vorraus.



Vor langem.. sehr langem hatte Crunch3r ne Linux-CUDA-Version veröffentlicht.

Aber dann wurde einige Zeit später das Thema hier "gelöscht/versteckt".
Ich weiß nicht warum..


Hier ist Crunch3r's Seite:
http://calbe.dw70.de/linux32.html


Da ich überhaupt keine Ahnung von Linux habe..

Vielleicht schaut ja noch jemand rein, der Linux "kann"..

Oder schreib doch ne Nachricht in Crunch3r's Forum.


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Message 893153 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 20:38:20 UTC
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Erweitere doch den Titel dieses Themas mit den Zusatz "Linux"..

Das würde anderen Linux-Anwender vielleicht besser auffallen..

Zum einen, um Dir zu helfen.
Zum anderen, damit andere Linux-Anwender auch CUDA laufen lassen können..


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Message 893156 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 20:43:07 UTC - in response to Message 893149.  

Just because someone reads a message does not imply one knows the answer. I could suggest asking in the Q&A section - Linux forum or CUDA forum.

AFAIK, Seti doesn't have a Linux/CUDA application.


So, my sarcastic post worked. Thanks Aurora Borealis for your answer.
There is no Linux cuda application? Why are we discriminated (again)?
I don't get it. The best operating system in the world and almost nobody wants it.

Well, I just go on the old way then. Once again thank you for your answer.

Ask Nvidia, they compiled the application for Seti...

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Message 893160 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 20:47:17 UTC - in response to Message 893151.  


Sei doch nicht soo negativ.. ;-)

Das ist doch n "amerikanisches" Forum..
Und die meißten Leser kommen aus den USA, oder?

Und wir Europäer sind ca. 8 bis 10 Std. vorraus.



Vor langem.. sehr langem hatte Crunch3r ne Linux-CUDA-Version veröffentlicht.

Aber dann wurde einige Zeit später das Thema hier "gelöscht/versteckt".
Ich weiß nicht warum..


Hier ist Crunch3r's Seite:
http://calbe.dw70.de/linux32.html


Da ich überhaupt keine Ahnung von Linux habe..

Vielleicht schaut ja noch jemand rein, der Linux "kann"..

Oder schreib doch ne Nachricht in Crunch3r's Forum.


:-)


No, I am not negative (let's just continue to write in English, shall we?). It's just that I asked a question and I did not get any answer. That annoyed me.
Sorry, if I offended people here.

I did jump to Crunch3r's page and downloaded the CUDA version, but I really have to dig into this. It's not only copy this and that and it works. I will do that tomorrow. I hope by then my first AP's will be finished. That gives me some time to experiment.

Einen wunderschönen guten Abend wünsche ich hier aus Holland, oder besser gesagt, aus den Niederlanden.
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Message 893162 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 21:01:36 UTC


Don't be annoyed my friend.. :-)


I looked here and wanted to answer quickly.. so I took german, it's faster for me.. ;-)


Not all people around here have the 100 % knowledge.. ;-)

Some have this and some this knowledge about this and this topic..


And all are 'only' members and volunteer helper/assistants here in the forum.. :-)


If you like, please extend the title of this thread with 'Linux'.
So that other Linux-knowledge-people could help you.

And other Linux-people could see that there is a Linux-CUDA-app also.


You could do it, if you edit one post of you here in this thread.


Nice greetings and a nice evening to the Netherlands from Germany.. :-)

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Message 893172 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 21:27:25 UTC - in response to Message 893156.  

Ask Nvidia, they compiled the application for Seti...

Not the Linux version, they didn't. Crunch3r did that.

@ DeMus,

Crunch3r has been saying discouraging things about Ubuntu Linux 9.0.4 at Lunatics today (Am I right about it being a very new release? I'm not a Linux person at all). Apparently the optimised Astropulse application has been throwing errors on v9.0.4, even though it runs OK on earlier versions of Ubuntu. The way Crunch3r phrased it, it seemed as if there were problems with v9.0.4 outside the BOINC world too.

So I suspect the reason you didn't get an answer to your opening question may genuinely be that nobody knows, and they're all busy trying to figure it out for themselves.
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Message 893267 - Posted: 10 May 2009, 4:24:14 UTC - in response to Message 893172.  
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@ DeMus,

Crunch3r has been saying discouraging things about Ubuntu Linux 9.0.4 at Lunatics today (Am I right about it being a very new release? I'm not a Linux person at all). Apparently the optimised Astropulse application has been throwing errors on v9.0.4, even though it runs OK on earlier versions of Ubuntu. The way Crunch3r phrased it, it seemed as if there were problems with v9.0.4 outside the BOINC world too.

So I suspect the reason you didn't get an answer to your opening question may genuinely be that nobody knows, and they're all busy trying to figure it out for themselves.


Yes, it's true, I also had problems running Seti on Ubuntu Linix 9.0.4 Jaunty Jackalope. Other projects (Einstein and Rosetta) run fine, only the optimized versions of Seti created computation errors. See a thread in the Linux section of Q&A called: "Using Seti on Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04" (nearly on the top)
Happily Urs from Lunatics found the answer to that problem.
Now I am crunching 4 AP's on my quad processor which still take a long time to get finished. I am at 40% so it will still take me another 36 hours. Other WU's were gone instantly without even getting started.

It seemed in the app_info.xml file properties one check box had to be checked which it wasn't. The box is called: "Allow executing file as program"
Since then I can crunch, don't know the outcome yet.

First Urs thought of my overclocked PC. I lowered the frequency but still the same.
At that time I also used version 6.4.5 of the manager which is the stable one. I now use 6.6.20 since because I am a rebel. It seems to go alright though. It also did on my previous version of Ubuntu called 8.0.4 Hardy Heron.
I am using the 64-bits variant, did I tell that already?

One small remark about 6.6.20:
When I open the tasks screen, I have to keep moving the mouse to see progression on the 4 WU's. When I leave my mouse alone, all the columns on screen which constantly have to change (time elapsed, time to completion and the progression bar) are at a standstill.

This evening, Dutch time, which is UTC+2, I can tell you more about my (mis)fortune.

To return to Crunch3r's comment about Ubuntu:
yes, with every new release of an operating system there are problems. I started on Linux last April with Ubuntu 8.0.4. In October they had 8.10 which I did not use because of the many problems I read about in the Ubuntu forum.
Now I thought let's just try the new release. Things work well here, except the Seti problem I had (or have?). All other things work better than before, faster than before so I must say I am pleased with it.

Let's see tomorrow evening, hope I have white smoke coming from the chimney then.
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Message 893328 - Posted: 10 May 2009, 12:42:27 UTC - in response to Message 893162.  



If you like, please extend the title of this thread with 'Linux'.
So that other Linux-knowledge-people could help you.

And other Linux-people could see that there is a Linux-CUDA-app also.


You could do it, if you edit one post of you here in this thread.


Nice greetings and a nice evening to the Netherlands from Germany.. :-)


Please tell me how to do this, since I have no idea. When I edit a posting I placed here myself I can not see where and how to edit the title. I love to do so, but how?
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Message 893335 - Posted: 10 May 2009, 13:06:04 UTC - in response to Message 893328.  

Please tell me how to do this, since I have no idea. When I edit a posting I placed here myself I can not see where and how to edit the title. I love to do so, but how?

I think you have to make a brand new 'Post to thread' (not a 'reply' or 'quote'), and then go back and edit that new post.
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Message 893357 - Posted: 10 May 2009, 14:28:38 UTC


Supported Software Platforms
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32-bit operating systems
- Windows XP
- Windows Vista
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.3
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.4
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.5
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.6
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.7
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.0
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.1
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.2
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.3*
- SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10.0 SP3
- SUSE Linux 11.0
- SUSE Linux 11.1*
- Fedora 9
- Fedora 10*
- Ubuntu 8.04
- Ubuntu 8.10*

64-bit operating systems
- Windows XP (64-bit)
- Windows Vista (64-bit)
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.3
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.4
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.5
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.6
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.7
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.0
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.1
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.2
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.3*
- SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10.0 SP3
- SUSE Linux 11.0
- SUSE Linux 11.1*
- Fedora 9
- Fedora 10*
- Ubuntu 8.04
- Ubuntu 8.10*

* new support with CUDA v2.2

Nothing about Ubuntu 9.*
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Message 893388 - Posted: 10 May 2009, 15:45:42 UTC - in response to Message 893267.  

Please, DeMus, don't mix up different issues :

On the one hand there are the bugs in K/X/Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope that produce (more or less sporadic) computation errors when using optimized AstroPulse and optimized Seti@home Enhanced applications.
I doubt that you will not see them before Jaunty is fixed.

On the other hand you had missed that linux is working with permissions for each and everything.
That is why your newly installed optimized applications did not start.

Two completely different things, that happened on occasion nearly together.

@Raistmer:
Where is that list of OS's from ?
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Message 893411 - Posted: 10 May 2009, 16:25:21 UTC - in response to Message 893388.  
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Urs,

The bugs in Ubuntu 9.0.4 you are talking about, do (or did) I also have those? Can you see that in the result of the WU's which ended with an error? I can read the errors but I have no idea what they mean.

For 36 straight hours my pc is crunching on 4 astropulses and at the moment still has about 24 hours to go. After I started crunching on this OS I can not recall to have seen Seti WU's being crunched. Now, after your tip to check the box which makes it able to execute the app_info.xml file, I can crunch Seti WU's again. It sure means something has changed, agreed?
What is strange is the fact that with the previous OS I have never done that. Never as in 0 times. So, there is a difference between the 2 OS's.

I have still overclocked my PC from 2.4 to 3GHz, so that is (probably) not the error. It's still too early to say since I did not finish one WU yet. At the moment I only have 8 AP units and no others which would crunch faster. So, I just have to wait.
I keep you posted.

@ Richard Hasselgrove:
I think you have to make a brand new 'Post to thread' (not a 'reply' or 'quote'), and then go back and edit that new post.

Even with a "Post to thread" I see nothing which makes it possible to change the title.
Can it be done? Did somebody ever do it? Change the title of a thread I mean.

@ Raistmer:
How old is this list? Ubuntu 9.0.4 came out April 23, so about 3 weeks ago.
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Message 893419 - Posted: 10 May 2009, 16:30:34 UTC

NVIDIA CUDA Toolkit
README.txt
Version 2.2

It's latest CUDA toolset available for now.
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Message 893430 - Posted: 10 May 2009, 16:50:07 UTC - in response to Message 893411.  

Even with a "Post to thread" I see nothing which makes it possible to change the title.
Can it be done? Did somebody ever do it? Change the title of a thread I mean.

You have to make a new post to thread, then go back and edit that post.

So far all you have done is use the Reply (to post) button (seeing how your posts go out with "in response to Message xxxxxxx"), not just post something to the thread with the "Post to thread" button.

Of course, you can just as well ask a moderator as those are capable of editing thread titles with a button at the top of the thread.
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Message 893440 - Posted: 10 May 2009, 17:08:02 UTC
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Okay, I make a new Post to thread.
Now I have to post it and then edit this post?

Oops, it works. Sorry guys.
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Message 893445 - Posted: 10 May 2009, 17:12:01 UTC - in response to Message 893411.  
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DeMus,
with optimized AstroPulse the errors will be more sporadic, so not every wu will end with an error (from reports of others who have that same issue with Ubuntu 9.04).
Before you updated your optimized applications you did not do AstroPulse, so your errors where with Seti@home Enhanced. Check the first post over at lunatics where i used a wu from your hosts result as example for the current trouble.

edit: if i look at the theme of this thread then i'm off topic here, sorry for that.

edit2: DeMus, the runtime per AstroPulse wu should be far less than 20 hours on a host like yours. Are you sure the optimized application is used ?
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