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Message 878446 - Posted: 22 Mar 2009, 23:36:51 UTC - in response to Message 878389.  

What about all that stuff that remained on the moon? The buggies, the platforms? If the garbage collection has no rockets and no alien has stolen it meanwhile, it all should be still there and can be found by moon mapping missions or other crewed spaceflights.

I can do better than that, Just aim Hubble at the moon and start snapping some High Res Photos of the surface, It should show everything, Including the foot prints and the tire tracks(11 and 12 didn't have a Buggy, 14 and maybe 15 might have(39 years since this started 1969-1972) and 16 & 17 did have a buggy, 17 was the only one with a real geologist along though, Astronauts filled in before. 13 didn't get there as they converted the LEM into a Lifeboat so 13 doesn't count and neither did 8-10(practice and shakedowns of the technology), 1 was a fire, 2-7 never existed at all cause of the Fire in 1 that killed 3 Astronauts due to a pure oxygen atmosphere(poof!).

2-7 were apparently used for escape testing for a couple of different systems.


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Message 878518 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 6:50:16 UTC - in response to Message 878389.  

Just aim Hubble at the moon and start snapping some High Res Photos of the surface, It should show everything, Including the foot prints and the tire tracks(11 and 12 didn't have a Buggy, 14 and maybe 15 might have(39 years since this started 1969-1972) and 16 & 17 did have a buggy, 17 was the only one with a real geologist along though, Astronauts filled in before. 13 didn't get there as they converted the LEM into a Lifeboat so 13 doesn't count and neither did 8-10(practice and shakedowns of the technology), 1 was a fire, 2-7 never existed at all cause of the Fire in 1 that killed 3 Astronauts due to a pure oxygen atmosphere(poof!).

Taken from A Debunking of the Moon Hoax Theory:
Earth based telescopes should be able to see the Apollo hardware on the Moon, yet none is visible.

The theoretical resolving power of a telescope, measured in arc seconds, is calculated by dividing the aperture of the telescope (in inches) into 4.56. The largest telescope on Earth is the 10-meter Keck telescope in Hawaii. The theoretical resolving power of this telescope is 0.012", however the Earth's atmosphere limits the resolving power of any ground-based telescope to about 0.5"-1.0". The Hubble Space Telescope does not suffer from this limitation; thus, with an aperture of 94 inches, HST's resolving power is 0.05". At the Earth-Moon distance of 239,000 miles, the smallest object that can be resolved by HST is about 300 feet. The largest dimension of any hardware left behind on the Moon is 31 feet, which is the diagonal distance across the LM's footpads. No telescope, presently in existence, can see the Apollo hardware from Earth.

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Message 878526 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 7:19:50 UTC - in response to Message 878518.  

Just aim Hubble at the moon and start snapping some High Res Photos of the surface, It should show everything, Including the foot prints and the tire tracks(11 and 12 didn't have a Buggy, 14 and maybe 15 might have(39 years since this started 1969-1972) and 16 & 17 did have a buggy, 17 was the only one with a real geologist along though, Astronauts filled in before. 13 didn't get there as they converted the LEM into a Lifeboat so 13 doesn't count and neither did 8-10(practice and shakedowns of the technology), 1 was a fire, 2-7 never existed at all cause of the Fire in 1 that killed 3 Astronauts due to a pure oxygen atmosphere(poof!).

Taken from A Debunking of the Moon Hoax Theory:
Earth based telescopes should be able to see the Apollo hardware on the Moon, yet none is visible.

The theoretical resolving power of a telescope, measured in arc seconds, is calculated by dividing the aperture of the telescope (in inches) into 4.56. The largest telescope on Earth is the 10-meter Keck telescope in Hawaii. The theoretical resolving power of this telescope is 0.012", however the Earth's atmosphere limits the resolving power of any ground-based telescope to about 0.5"-1.0". The Hubble Space Telescope does not suffer from this limitation; thus, with an aperture of 94 inches, HST's resolving power is 0.05". At the Earth-Moon distance of 239,000 miles, the smallest object that can be resolved by HST is about 300 feet. The largest dimension of any hardware left behind on the Moon is 31 feet, which is the diagonal distance across the LM's footpads. No telescope, presently in existence, can see the Apollo hardware from Earth.

Then that means any photos would have to be from a closeup mapping mission with enough resolution or the newer replacement for the HST(ATLAS Telescope, a True replacement for the HST, the JWST is an infrared only) which is supposed to be 8-16 Meters in size and is to be launched by an Ariane 5 rocket.
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Message 878548 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 10:53:30 UTC
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Note the black sky, with no stars, no light at all in the background--->The Earth and the Moon
This is a video taken of the probe SELENE operated by the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency, JAXA

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Message 878556 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 11:58:13 UTC - in response to Message 878548.  

OMG, this means the Japanese are in on the hoax too!

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Message 878564 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 13:32:33 UTC - in response to Message 878556.  

OMG, this means the Japanese are in on the hoax too!

We're all in on it, except you....LOL.
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Message 878573 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 14:28:48 UTC

The moon is made of cheese, actually...


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Message 878576 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 14:47:30 UTC


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engines of the Saturn V first stage
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I think Lunar soil from what I've read makes a superior form of Portland Cement as the stuff has a higher stress fracture ability. Plus the Apollo Program found some of the oldest known rocks in the solar system according to New Scientist.

New Scientist: Space wrote:

Apollo 17 sample helps date Moon

The new sample, found by Alexander Nemchin at Curtin University of Technology in Perth, Australia, and colleagues, is 4.42 billion years old, and came from the lunar highlands. That means it crystallized after the crust first solidified, within 100 million years of the moon's formation (Nature Geoscience, DOI: 10.1038/NGEO417).

The grain sets limits on the moon's age, says Dianne Taylor of the University of California, Los Angeles, who has studied similar samples. The moon is thought to have formed from debris ejected by a giant impact between Earth and a smaller body between 10 and 100 million years after the formation of the solar system, 4.57 billion years ago. Taylor reckons the lunar crust formed within 90 million years of the impact, which tallies well with the age of the zircon.

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Message 878578 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 14:55:54 UTC - in response to Message 878576.  

Yes, but is it as tasty as a nice bit of Wensleydale?

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Message 878584 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 15:22:32 UTC - in response to Message 878578.  

Yes, but is it as tasty as a nice bit of Wensleydale?

I prefer Cheddar, California or Wisconsin.
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Message 878589 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 15:56:08 UTC - in response to Message 878584.  

Try Grandma Singleton's. Pure genius.

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Message 878597 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 16:25:54 UTC - in response to Message 878584.  

Yes, but is it as tasty as a nice bit of Wensleydale?

I prefer Cheddar, California or Wisconsin.


Never had California cheddar, but Wisconsin cheddar can't come close to Ontario's finest. It says so right in a government cheese document, so it must be true. Unless the document is a hoax....




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Message 878610 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 16:53:19 UTC - in response to Message 878597.  
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Yes, but is it as tasty as a nice bit of Wensleydale?

I prefer Cheddar, California or Wisconsin.


Never had California cheddar, but Wisconsin cheddar can't come close to Ontario's finest. It says so right in a government cheese document, so it must be true. Unless the document is a hoax....



California Cheese has the REAL label

The Story of Real CALIFORNIA CHEESE

Good GOD! That website is hosted on CompuServe.com!

Then there's this website Here.
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Message 878663 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 20:06:24 UTC

Sorry guys, i do not want to take the fun away, but can you please go back on topic?
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Message 878680 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 20:42:38 UTC - in response to Message 878663.  
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Sorry guys, i do not want to take the fun away, but can you please go back on topic?

But, but, but, ...

Isn't that the moon is made of cheese one of the oldest hoaxes going?

Or do some children forever stay as Peter Pan?...

And I do like my crackers!

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Message 878683 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 20:49:14 UTC - in response to Message 878663.  
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Sorry guys, I do not want to take the fun away, But can you please go back on topic?

And before Men landed on the Moon, It was thought that the Moon was made of Cheese, So It is related. I should know, Now of course back then the question was If the Moon is made of Cheese, What type is It? And people would say Limburger or something equally silly and so It was a Moon Hoax, It was just that everybody and their Uncle(not Uncle Sam) was in on the Joke.
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Message 878704 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 22:54:41 UTC - in response to Message 878548.  

Note the black sky, with no stars, no light at all in the background--->The Earth and the Moon
This is a video taken of the probe SELENE operated by the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency, JAXA

Photographic film including both chemical and electronic varieties suffers from a lower allowed contrast latitude than the human eye. For example, take a picture from inside a house with a window in the picture. The picture will have either no detail in the house because it is too dark, or will have no detail outside because it is too bright, or both. The same holds true of photography of the moon. The bright side of the moon as seen from the earth has about the same brightness as the surface of the earth in daylight as seen from the earth. The bright side of the moon as seen from the moon has a somewhat higher brightness as there is no atmosphere to absorb and scatter the light on its way to the earths surface. While I would expect the human eye to be able to see some stars from the bright side of the moon with bright moon landscape in view, I would NOT expect a camera to be able to pick it up - especially a camera from 40 years ago when the film did not have as good a latitude as it does today.


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Message 878741 - Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 1:04:38 UTC - in response to Message 878663.  

Sorry guys, i do not want to take the fun away, but can you please go back on topic?


I think that the extensive discussion about cheese shows how seriously we take the original topic. Think of it as a statement, rather than a diversion.


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Message 878742 - Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 1:06:43 UTC

Here's something, Some said that there must have been a breeze so It couldn't be the Moon they were on.
(Not that I believe that, NASA is full of occasional failures, Including a couple of Mars Probes) Read on below.


This image shows Apollo 11
astronaut Buzz Aldrin with the U.S.
flag. The illusion of a breeze was
caused by the horizontal rod
intended to hold the flag flat failing
to telescope out completely, thus
leaving ripples in the fabric like
those seen in a flag in the wind.

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Message 878748 - Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 1:50:09 UTC - in response to Message 878742.  

Here's something, Some said that there must have been a breeze so It couldn't be the Moon they were on.
(Not that I believe that, NASA is full of occasional failures, Including a couple of Mars Probes) Read on below.


This image shows Apollo 11
astronaut Buzz Aldrin with the U.S.
flag. The illusion of a breeze was
caused by the horizontal rod
intended to hold the flag flat failing
to telescope out completely, thus
leaving ripples in the fabric like
those seen in a flag in the wind.

And people at NASA liked the effect so well that they imitated it on every subsequent moon shot.

I still want the hoax believers to explain the experiment with the hammer and the feather.


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