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Message 883215 - Posted: 8 Apr 2009, 0:38:31 UTC

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Most of that is AP.

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Message 883732 - Posted: 9 Apr 2009, 17:54:41 UTC - in response to Message 883215.  

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Message 883746 - Posted: 9 Apr 2009, 18:44:13 UTC

I finally broke 40k. I know that's less than you 1M+ guys' RAC, but for me, that's a new high.
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Message 883751 - Posted: 9 Apr 2009, 19:03:35 UTC
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Started AP when thumper was in trouble.. now my RAC is dropping (temporarily I hope.. I even hear/read it may as far as double in the future thanks to a good optimized AP :D) I usually had a pending in the order of 7 to 10k right now my all-time high is:

47,815.25

(we'll see what the future brings ;))

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Do I see this right? Does Rob have more pending then I have crunched!? Wow..
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Message 883755 - Posted: 9 Apr 2009, 19:58:52 UTC - in response to Message 883751.  

Pending credit: 1,761,896.46

Do I see this right? Does Rob have more pending then I have crunched!? Wow..


LOL, yeah, that's about right.


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Message 883757 - Posted: 9 Apr 2009, 20:34:37 UTC

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Dropping. I'll take it.
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Message 883945 - Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 13:28:18 UTC - in response to Message 883757.  

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Message 884179 - Posted: 11 Apr 2009, 3:51:29 UTC - in response to Message 883945.  

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Looks like I am on my way to 2 mil. :)
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Message 884265 - Posted: 11 Apr 2009, 14:37:27 UTC - in response to Message 884179.  

Dont hold your breath :) My money is on you settling down at around either side of 3m credits before the whole AP roll out settles down across the whole Crunching Network - and the whole dynamics of the roll out is still playing out, it will be a while yet before the whole cycle of issue/crunch/pending/award settles down.

The difference in size of the AP WUs compared to the "standard" CPU WUs made the significant increase in pendings totals inevitable, and will be particularly noticeable with the larger volume Crunchers.

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Message 884279 - Posted: 11 Apr 2009, 15:14:20 UTC - in response to Message 884265.  

I've been seeing some first time crunchers as my wingmen with one or two AP WUs on their machines and no credit. Most of the time I see those WUs time out. I wish there was a way to give new crunchers just MBs until they get into this game. It seems like we are losing a lot of new people because of this.


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Message 884297 - Posted: 11 Apr 2009, 15:43:42 UTC

I have managed to keep my pending credit under 20K and my RAC over 5K, only crunching AP. There is a method to my madness.
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Message 884381 - Posted: 11 Apr 2009, 20:49:18 UTC - in response to Message 884279.  

I've been seeing some first time crunchers as my wingmen with one or two AP WUs on their machines and no credit. Most of the time I see those WUs time out. I wish there was a way to give new crunchers just MBs until they get into this game. It seems like we are losing a lot of new people because of this.

A source code change for the AP splitters was made March 31 for that. It will reduce the deadline to 25 days, so a newly attached host with default benchmark of 1000 WMIPS and DCF of 1 will be seen as just slightly too slow to do AP work. The splitter at Beta has been producing work with that change recently, I don't know when it will be rolled out here.
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Message 884382 - Posted: 11 Apr 2009, 21:00:00 UTC - in response to Message 884381.  

That's good news Josef, I hope it works out fast over here.


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Message 884550 - Posted: 12 Apr 2009, 12:53:45 UTC - in response to Message 884382.  

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Message 884965 - Posted: 13 Apr 2009, 16:17:40 UTC - in response to Message 884550.  

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There we go, a nice, cool 2 million pending. (shakes head)

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Message 885090 - Posted: 13 Apr 2009, 20:44:52 UTC

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Fluctuating around 1.2 million.
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Message 885103 - Posted: 13 Apr 2009, 21:12:37 UTC
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What I find interesting is the ratio between pending and RAC. Previously, when crunching SETI full time, it would be around 3:1.

At the moment: 8.8:1
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Message 885107 - Posted: 13 Apr 2009, 21:26:03 UTC - in response to Message 885103.  

Almost all of my machines are working straight AP now with the obvious exception of the CUDA machines and a few of the slow boxes. Those opt apps for AP are great.

I think most of that 2 million is just waiting for other people to finish AP WUs so they can validate. IF they validate.

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Message 885121 - Posted: 13 Apr 2009, 22:25:04 UTC - in response to Message 885107.  

Most of mine is definitely AP. The ratios are interesting.

Rob Neff: 7.5 : 1

Andy Williams: 7.7 : 1

Very consistent.
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Message 885141 - Posted: 13 Apr 2009, 23:06:20 UTC - in response to Message 885107.  

I think most of that 2 million is just waiting for other people to finish AP WUs so they can validate.


Yup - all that has changed is the length and crunch time of the WU, the dynamics (capacity & power) of the Crunching Network is the same - although that will change when they raise the bar for min spec to crunch AP.

Whilst the speed ratio of slowest / fastest crunching remains the same (as such) compared to fastest / slowest etc on MB, the reality is the average real world length of time between start and completion has shot up when comparing slowest and fastest on the old MB dynamics & the new AP.

That means the "network buffer" will increase hugely in size. The crunching network output is an average output of all machines flowing through it. When that average results in a longer time frame, and nothing else changes, buffer stock will rocket. Its a direct parrallel to the logistics of goods from factory through a supply chain via warehouses to retail.

If you said a reference machine does an AP in 22 hours compared to 1 hour MB, them multiply the average (old) MB pending size by 11 (as some faster machines will feed other faster machines), you end up with a very crude ball park figure. So if old pendings were 150K, it would not surprise if AP pendings for the same machine went to 3-5m before it settled ......

I hope they roll out the min spec change in Beta soon, else we will have an increasing number of unhappy bunnies around the shop :)

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