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Message 868610 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 17:34:28 UTC - in response to Message 868603.

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Yes.. sure.. I believe.. ;-D

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Message 868621 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 17:46:04 UTC - in response to Message 868601.

Observed strange behoviour - uploads get to 100 percent, then sit there for a while and go to "retry in..." and when they retry they start at zero percent, doing nothing.

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Message 868626 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 17:53:35 UTC - in response to Message 868621.

Observed strange behoviour - uploads get to 100 percent, then sit there for a while and go to "retry in..." and when they retry they start at zero percent, doing nothing.


I've just observed even stranger behaviour. Uploads are completing, and being reported, work is getting through..... :)

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Message 868632 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 18:03:14 UTC

Work is very very slowly getting through and reporting but there are no downloads coming at the moment.
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Message 868641 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 18:19:35 UTC - in response to Message 868561.


Step 1: turn off Corel Cache, and let the bandwidth recover
Step 2: patch the BOINC problem which allows the endless repeat requests
Step 3: look again at the downhill bottleneck, because it's going to staurate with real data sooner or later (what with CUDA, Astropulse, Corei7, ATI/OpenGL, etc. etc.)

Step 4: Only deploy new apps and/or make significant system changes early on Wednesdays so you are around to fix the darn things when they so frequently blow up in your face.


I agree with #4. I work in IT (applications). We don't put anything in Production or make changes past Wednesday. This is to allow to find out problems in the real world during the weekdays when staff and production are around to see issues and fix them (we try our best to QA changes, but sometimes just can't see it until a production load is running). Long time ago, we used to make changes up through Friday, but (a) production was not happy if/when they found a problem late Friday or on Sat/Sun, and (b) IT/Production/Engineering were not happy if they had to come in over on a weekend to fix issues - that is assuming you could find the appropriate people. In a 24x7 worldwide operation, you just can't take the risk (or lose the money).

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Message 868644 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 18:24:33 UTC - in response to Message 868626.

Observed strange behoviour - uploads get to 100 percent, then sit there for a while and go to "retry in..." and when they retry they start at zero percent, doing nothing.


I've just observed even stranger behaviour. Uploads are completing, and being reported, work is getting through..... :)


Best post by far ! LoL
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Message 868647 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 18:25:31 UTC

Is it just me or does anyone else think that some sort of statement from the Admins is overdue?


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Message 868649 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 18:27:03 UTC

LONG OVER DUE!
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Message 868650 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 18:27:29 UTC - in response to Message 868647.

I would hope they are all too busy to post right now. I'm sure we will get word when they get some time.
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Message 868663 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 18:34:30 UTC - in response to Message 868650.

Thanks for your UPdate, Matt.

Things are a bit stuck, as you've certainly noticed, only by the (amount) of posts, can some 'kick' the 'unwilling server' ?

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Message 868673 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 18:44:01 UTC
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Does this mean we're out "Of the Woods"? Or aren't we out "Of the Woods" yet?

(Couldn't help myself ;-)))
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Message 868675 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 18:45:08 UTC - in response to Message 868663.

What update?

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Message 868685 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 18:57:20 UTC - in response to Message 868626.
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I've just observed even stranger behaviour. Uploads are completing, and being reported, work is getting through..... :)


same for me, but more strange, the Wu are always in task " Ready to valide"

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Message 868693 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 19:08:40 UTC
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Matt and everyone at Berkeley are probably working to fix the problem.

Matt won't post anything probably until he issues his normal update later in the day (Pacific time), they have to find and fix what is causing the problems.

Be patient people, something will be mentioned when they have the time or perhaps they will even wait until the normal Tuesday outage to fully fix things, who knows.

Sit tight and all will be told when the time suits.

edit - something just happened as I upload all the remaining tasks I had (15) and got a ton of new work in the past few minutes.
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Message 868752 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 20:15:34 UTC - in response to Message 868641.

Bravo, this is a management procedure that should be in place. Even in development labs, procedures are necessary to measure progress and limit errors (QA is necessary).

Could we hear from Matt with regard to what procedures are followed?
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Message 868768 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 20:35:04 UTC - in response to Message 868752.
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Could we hear from Matt with regard to what procedures are followed?

I'd be happy if we could just hear from him.
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Message 868786 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 21:02:52 UTC

Yes I'm sure we will hear from Matt in good time. However as some people are now accusing the project team of "staging these outages to get more money" and saying that the problems are down to incompetence, if I was Matt I believe I would be very upset.

Calm down people.

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Message 868793 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 21:17:22 UTC - in response to Message 868786.

Matt has posted http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=52195
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