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Message 841697 - Posted: 18 Dec 2008, 22:52:24 UTC

I just found it amusing that Our Prez got to dodge a pair of shoes being thrown at him.

1) are the secret service guys getting fired over that one. Heck the guy had time to take off both shoes and throw them. Come on guys you are supposed to take a bullet for him. good thing the guy didnt have anything that exploded or was sharp.

2) touching anothers shoes or seeing the bottom of someones shoes is insulting. If that isnt a lame insult. But I guess when you have domestic animals running around you wouldnt want to see what your neighbor just walked through. Heck the smell would be enough. I hadn't realized the shoe thing until i heard Bill Richardson talk about this when he met Saddam hussein(spelling so kill me). This led me to think about when marines tore down Saddams statue and all the locals were beating on his statue with their shoes.

So to review

what a funny insult and why did our SS take so long to take out the shoe tosser
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Message 841700 - Posted: 18 Dec 2008, 23:03:17 UTC - in response to Message 841697.

I just found it amusing that Our Prez got to dodge a pair of shoes being thrown at him.

1) are the secret service guys getting fired over that one. Heck the guy had time to take off both shoes and throw them. Come on guys you are supposed to take a bullet for him. good thing the guy didnt have anything that exploded or was sharp.

2) touching anothers shoes or seeing the bottom of someones shoes is insulting. If that isnt a lame insult. But I guess when you have domestic animals running around you wouldnt want to see what your neighbor just walked through. Heck the smell would be enough. I hadn't realized the shoe thing until i heard Bill Richardson talk about this when he met Saddam hussein(spelling so kill me). This led me to think about when marines tore down Saddams statue and all the locals were beating on his statue with their shoes.

So to review

what a funny insult and why did our SS take so long to take out the shoe tosser


If you read the article it says Bush waved off the SS guard
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Message 841994 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 14:16:13 UTC

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Message 842042 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 15:40:13 UTC - in response to Message 841700.

As I recall thats not his call. It's the SS that detemines threats to the president. SS members are trained to determine threats and take a bullet(shoe) for the president.
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Message 842055 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 15:56:34 UTC
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I even recorded this when first saw on the news.
I don't believe this actually happened.
Not only this unbelievable, but also funny and well in time.
In time, I mean, just after I shared my throughts (version) upon 9/11 in another thread.
Candolizza Rice also said, kind of, you can see democracy on effect and one can say what he will, but this doesn't place while the harshly beaten reporteur waiting his trial in prison.

And life is taught me that coincendences is truly rare.
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Message 842131 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 19:02:19 UTC - in response to Message 842055.
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my thoughts about the incident is that iraqis are very difficult people ,that incidence shows that no one can be trusted not even the reporters and i dont blame bush for going to war in iraq after all his country was attacked brutally some one had to done the dirty job of teaching those guys a lesson and it happened it was his call ,just imagine a world were you afraid of going to work,to sleep or to shop
the price of war is always high but some times one has no choice especially if the terms are decitated like in 911
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Message 842142 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 19:30:11 UTC

So much for democracy. The reporter that threw his shoes was severely beaten while in custody. Apparently the Iraqi police are trained by the Los Angeles police. Luckily, the judge on his case is actually looking into the beating. so their is some form of law there
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Message 842147 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 19:41:43 UTC - in response to Message 842131.

At first my thoughts were supporting USA in Iraq war, too. Now I'm just not sure. What actual reason of the invasion? Did biological or chemical or nuclear weapons were found in passed years? Or Saddam had connections with Laden? While Laden's involvement in 9/11 is not proven. Probably, Saddam was a bad guy, but what makes USA to bomb the country? Aren't Iraq people afraid "of going to work,to sleep or to shop"?
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Message 842158 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 20:03:27 UTC - in response to Message 842147.
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At first my thoughts were supporting USA in Iraq war, too. Now I'm just not sure. What actual reason of the invasion? Did biological or chemical or nuclear weapons were found in passed years? Or Saddam had connections with Laden? While Laden's involvement in 9/11 is not proven. Probably, Saddam was a bad guy, but what makes USA to bomb the country? Aren't Iraq people afraid "of going to work,to sleep or to shop"?


This is a good question, but also a big can of worms... Your best bet is to read the bill congress passed giving Bush permission to invade Iraq. You can also reference the countless UN resolutions Iraq broke or failed to comply with. Most importantly they refused to allow UN inspectors into the country, and when they were allowed to enter, they were limited on where the could search.

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Message 842165 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 20:16:41 UTC - in response to Message 842147.

The problem is that the world is a taught place ,peoples values differ and some are just to twisted to comprehend ,its true that every one is very sorry for the lives lost in wars but the truth is how do you break a structure of groups who are protected by govts like iraq and afgan whose leaders are totally bent on destroying civilization as we know it ,there is no other way but to go to war you got to be a man to survive and the world today has very little room for sentiments
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Message 842180 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 20:50:39 UTC - in response to Message 842158.
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At first my thoughts were supporting USA in Iraq war, too. Now I'm just not sure. What actual reason of the invasion? Did biological or chemical or nuclear weapons were found in passed years? Or Saddam had connections with Laden? While Laden's involvement in 9/11 is not proven. Probably, Saddam was a bad guy, but what makes USA to bomb the country? Aren't Iraq people afraid "of going to work,to sleep or to shop"?


This is a good question, but also a big can of worms... Your best bet is to read the bill congress passed giving Bush permission to invade Iraq. You can also reference the countless UN resolutions Iraq broke or failed to comply with. Most importantly they refused to allow UN inspectors into the country, and when they were allowed to enter, they were limited on where the could search.

Good luck!
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There may be reasons - IIRR, Iraq accused inspectors in espionage. Who likes of being intellectual labor, and after all nothing was found. And wasn't the senate (or congress?) been deceived when Rumsfield or Chainey (I can't remember) presented some fluck of colored water as a "proof"? You suggecting that any country that is suspicious and giving you bad dreams at night is a subject of elimination?
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Message 842186 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 21:02:00 UTC - in response to Message 842180.
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At first my thoughts were supporting USA in Iraq war, too. Now I'm just not sure. What actual reason of the invasion? Did biological or chemical or nuclear weapons were found in passed years? Or Saddam had connections with Laden? While Laden's involvement in 9/11 is not proven. Probably, Saddam was a bad guy, but what makes USA to bomb the country? Aren't Iraq people afraid "of going to work,to sleep or to shop"?


This is a good question, but also a big can of worms... Your best bet is to read the bill congress passed giving Bush permission to invade Iraq. You can also reference the countless UN resolutions Iraq broke or failed to comply with. Most importantly they refused to allow UN inspectors into the country, and when they were allowed to enter, they were limited on where the could search.

Good luck!
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There may be reasons - IIRR, Iraq accused inspectors in espionage. Who likes of being intellectual labor, and after all nothing was found. And wasn't the senate been deceived when Rumsfield or Chainey (I can't remember) presented some fluck of colored water as a "proof"? You suggecting that any country that is suspicious and giving you bad dreams at night is a subject of elimination?


You aren't even close... The Iraq war should have been avoided.

On a side note:

Transcript: President Clinton explains Iraq strike
CLINTON: Good evening.

Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.

Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.
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Message 842601 - Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 17:54:29 UTC - in response to Message 842186.

Thanks for the link. I didn't expect that the document that exposes the crime actually existed. Got more of them? Who is this "Clinton", who is masking under one or another presidents of United States? Real president? Are Bill Clinton and George W. Bush my enemies?

..."strong, sustained series of air strikes", I see...

To whoever supports this war, know - I won't forget. Ever.
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Message 842792 - Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 23:06:07 UTC

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I take my hat off to that shoe chucker.
If it were me throwing the shoe, there would have been a brick inside.

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Message 842800 - Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 23:29:11 UTC - in response to Message 842792.

or something that hurts a bit more than a shoe
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Message 843067 - Posted: 21 Dec 2008, 15:30:55 UTC - in response to Message 842186.
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How could the iraq war been avoided ,do you really believe on serious note that all the
planning for 911 and east african bombings were carried out by individuals,think again guys ,imagine a guy like saddam who used chemical weapons on his people and the statements he made just hours after 911 with a possibility of possessing a nucleur waepon not pancakes but a nuclear weapon playing cat and mouse with you what do you think he will do with it i can bet he will not put it in a museam for he who walks like a wolf,talks like a wolf and even bites once in while like a wolf is certainly not a dove so let no one make a mistake of even trying to defend the butcher.what happened to iraq is an old law of survival called 'i will get you before you get me '.
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Message 843074 - Posted: 21 Dec 2008, 15:58:52 UTC - in response to Message 842792.

Ahhh . . . the importance of obtaining written loyalty oaths from all audience participants should never be underestimated. GW should have known that this audience, being different from his customary cameos on the deck of an aircraft carrier, the halls of Bob Jones University, or AIPAC Headquarters had to present some risks. The upside is that the shoes were not made with impact-detonating plastique soles.

Ranking highly among the things we'll likely never see is GW's reaction to the shoe tosser that might have been scripted thus:

GW quickly commands attention from the audience, points to the shoeless reporter and says, "Let no harm come to this man - I want him set free. There is no American who would not change the collateral damage of removing Saddam Hussein from power - including this one." GW waves to have the shoe tosser escorted from the audience.

It's hard to imagine which nation would have been more astonished by such a genuinely faith-based charity. Abandonment of the situation left the war victim to further beating for failure to contain his frustrations at the violation of his community.
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Message 843082 - Posted: 21 Dec 2008, 16:38:44 UTC - in response to Message 843074.

Ahhh . . . the importance of obtaining written loyalty oaths from all audience participants should never be underestimated. GW should have known that this audience, being different from his customary cameos on the deck of an aircraft carrier, the halls of Bob Jones University, or AIPAC Headquarters had to present some risks. The upside is that the shoes were not made with impact-detonating plastique soles.

Ranking highly among the things we'll likely never see is GW's reaction to the shoe tosser that might have been scripted thus:

GW quickly commands attention from the audience, points to the shoeless reporter and says, "Let no harm come to this man - I want him set free. There is no American who would not change the collateral damage of removing Saddam Hussein from power - including this one." GW waves to have the shoe tosser escorted from the audience.

It's hard to imagine which nation would have been more astonished by such a genuinely faith-based charity. Abandonment of the situation left the war victim to further beating for failure to contain his frustrations at the violation of his community.

Unfortunately W had been governor of Texas. The man who racked up the largest total executions in the nation ever. I don't think human compassion runs high on his list of qualifications.
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Message 843103 - Posted: 21 Dec 2008, 17:54:54 UTC

In Spain we are trying to qualify this one into the Olympic Games!--->Throwing/spitting olives away!
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Message 845995 - Posted: 28 Dec 2008, 14:40:48 UTC - in response to Message 845499.

Well bush lost nothing on that day , but some people lost everything without even knowing what was happening so that comment is highly insulting.
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