There's a good reason for Windows 7 being Windows 6.1 instead of 7.0.

A lot of third party software checks the NT version number. If the major version isn't what the software expected, then it may fail to install. As such, for compatibility reasons (especially since Microsoft has been saying that they won't break compatibility with Vista), the minor version was incremented by 1, instead of the major version.

The same thing happened with XP.

I understand that's the current line given out to people, but then the logic really doesn't follow:

A) If they are worried about software that checks the major version and are afraid that they won't work, then why increase the major version ever? Why not make Vista NT v5.3 and Windows 7 NT v5.4 so as to not break compatibility with Windows 2000 and XP?

B) If this is indeed an 'increment' upgrade, then why give it a major version name like Windows 7, which implies kernel version 7.0? If this is not an increment upgrade, then make the major version number change and make developers test their code with Windows 7 accordingly like all other major Windows releases.

I just think that calling Windows 7 NT 6.1 is going to cause some confusion in the industry later on down the road. They initially were trying to say that they were calling this Windows 7 because this is the seventh major release of Windows, but then it can't be a major release if the version number is only incremented by a point upgrade.

I mean, a name is a name is a name, but the number certainly implies a major upgrade while only offering a point upgrade. Its only going to create more confusion, especially for those of us "techy" enough to try to keep track of such things.

Well no matter what, Hopefully It's not expensive and Not a filthy subscription either, Otherwise no deal.

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Sure, but then that destroys their insistence that Windows 7 is the seventh major version of Windows. In fact, it will not be Windows 7.x, but Windows 6.1.

To be honest, I'm not sure Microsoft could improve Vista's stability if they wanted to. Its rock solid. The performance during certain operations could use a little help though.

Yeah, try deleting 4 GB of data or more than 1000 files or directories at a time. Takes about 5 sec in Linux; 4 hours in Vista.

Well no matter what, Hopefully It's not expensive and Not a filthy subscription either, Otherwise no deal.

Microsoft WILL be going to the "subscription model" for OS, Office, and Apps licensing sometime soon (Windows 8?). This is a rumor I heard from my "sources". Adobe will be too. Steam was the first major one, and everyone likes it.

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Sure, but then that destroys their insistence that Windows 7 is the seventh major version of Windows. In fact, it will not be Windows 7.x, but Windows 6.1.

To be honest, I'm not sure Microsoft could improve Vista's stability if they wanted to. Its rock solid. The performance during certain operations could use a little help though.

Yeah, try deleting 4 GB of data or more than 1000 files or directories at a time. Takes about 5 sec in Linux; 4 hours in Vista.

Hmmm... I haven't experienced that kind of slow down. In fact, I have deleted 12GB of data in Vista and it took less than a minute (not 5 sec though). This is on a 3Gbp/s SATA II drive. A similar operation actually took longer in XP though. Yet another similar operation took about eight seconds in Windows 2000 Professional.

Microsoft WILL be going to the "subscription model" for OS, Office, and Apps licensing sometime soon (Windows 8?). This is a rumor I heard from my "sources". Adobe will be too. Steam was the first major one, and everyone likes it.

I heard the same thing too.

Microsoft WILL be going to the "subscription model" for OS, Office, and Apps licensing sometime soon

Thank goodness for the "open-source model"... ;)

(Aside from Leopard and Vista, I can't even remember the last time I paid for a piece of software.)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

I know this is a pretty old news article, but an unconfirmed source has reported that the
release date for Windows 7 will be in June 09'

Speaking long term, the time between Vista & 7 releases is not that short, roughly, Windows 95-98 was a 3 year job... Vista-7 is just slightly shorter.

I'll hold off my Core i7 build if this release date becomes reality.

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- Luke.

I know this is a pretty old news article, but an unconfirmed source has reported that the
release date for Windows 7 will be in June 09'

Speaking long term, the time between Vista & 7 releases is not that short, roughly, Windows 95-98 was a 3 year job... Vista-7 is just slightly shorter.

I'll hold off my Core i7 build if this release date becomes reality.

I wouldn't hold off your build......just load Win2K advanced server for the OS.........

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Or referring to the thread's title.....

A rose by any other name would smell...................

But I suppose the same could be said for a manure pit......

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

I know this is a pretty old news article, but an unconfirmed source has reported that the
release date for Windows 7 will be in June 09'

Speaking long term, the time between Vista & 7 releases is not that short, roughly, Windows 95-98 was a 3 year job... Vista-7 is just slightly shorter.

I'll hold off my Core i7 build if this release date becomes reality.

I wouldn't hold off your build......just load Win2K advanced server for the OS.........

What sort of Compatibility issues would I encounter with W2KServer and Vista on the laptop?

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- Luke.

I know this is a pretty old news article, but an unconfirmed source has reported that the
release date for Windows 7 will be in June 09'

Speaking long term, the time between Vista & 7 releases is not that short, roughly, Windows 95-98 was a 3 year job... Vista-7 is just slightly shorter.

I'll hold off my Core i7 build if this release date becomes reality.

I wouldn't hold off your build......just load Win2K advanced server for the OS.........

What sort of Compatibility issues would I encounter with W2KServer and Vista on the laptop?

Probably more with Vista than with Win2k.............

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Umm,..
It’s Just Windows Shitsta with SP7... ;)

(Umm... I like Vista, but thought this comment was funny.)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Speaking long term, the time between Vista & 7 releases is not that short, roughly, Windows 95-98 was a 3 year job... Vista-7 is just slightly shorter.

I'll hold off my Core i7 build if this release date becomes reality.

What are you looking for or hoping for in holding off on your next PC build?


I'm very sure other systems will be running on whatever Intel (and AMD and anyone else's) chipsets...

I guess it's no surprise that Microsoft are aligning their naming with that of Intel... "WinTel 7"?

Happy crunchin',
Martin

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Windows 7 New Taskbar & "Superbar" with New "Aero Peek"

Just a little post about the update to the Windows Task bar and UI.

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- Luke.

Windows 7 New Taskbar & "Superbar" with New "Aero Peek"

Just a little post about the update to the Windows Task bar and UI.

Would that be the 'Vunderbar'........I vonder..........

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Windows 7 New Taskbar & "Superbar" with New "Aero Peek"

Just a little post about the update to the Windows Task bar and UI.

Would that be the 'Vunderbar'........I vonder..........

Has your German side got the better of you?!

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- Luke.

Windows 7 New Taskbar & "Superbar" with New "Aero Peek"

Just a little post about the update to the Windows Task bar and UI.

Would that be the 'Vunderbar'........I vonder..........

Has your German side got the better of you?!

It alvays does.......yah?

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I don't know what the source was, but a friend of mine said he read somewhere that contrary to previous announcements about the system resources, Windows 7 is supposedly going to use less resources than Vista...supposedly. Again, I don't know what kind of merit this has, but it's kind of shocking considering a few months ago I read an article somewhere that said they won't be reducing the memory footprint of 7 because "that's just something that you have to expect and live with. Newer technologies are going to use more space and need more memory. That's not going to go away."

Okay, I can kind of see that..to a point. As an amateur programmer myself, I know the importance of efficient coding and small memory footprints. I mean, look at the opti apps for MB. AKv8 uses 44MB or RAM, with a peak of 45MB on my system. stock uses 44 with a peak of 120. So the same amount of running memory is being used on both, but AKv8 does the work much faster. That's efficiency in programming and maybe not necessarily a smaller memory footprint, but comparing efficiency to memory size, AKv8 wins.

That's what they need to be focusing on with 7. Bloat and resource consumption are not what determines a great OS. Speed and efficiency do.

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I read the same thing about the lesser resource consumption with Windows 7 somewhere, as did one of my Tech friends.

But as far as speed and efficiency go, I think my Vista OS is far more efficient with its use of RAM than when I had XP on there, even if it wants more of it. Its not bloat when its put to good use.

I read the same thing about the lesser resource consumption with Windows 7 somewhere, as did one of my Tech friends.

But as far as speed and efficiency go, I think my Vista OS is far more efficient with its use of RAM than when I had XP on there, even if it wants more of it. Its not bloat when its put to good use.

I hate to say it, but I think you're right Ozzfan. I've upgraded both my Vista rigs with external gpu's & 4gb ram on each. Now finding it harder to keep returning to my XP rig.

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Win2K advanced server on my rigs..........no problems here........meow.....

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster