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Message 817652 - Posted: 12 Oct 2008, 17:43:24 UTC

2.93Ghz @ $562 US!?
Thats... $943 NZ... No way in Hell Intel...

I'll settle for the Core i7 920 Until further notice, Thanks.
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Message 817657 - Posted: 12 Oct 2008, 17:51:09 UTC

It seems like the 920 is overclockable, At least according what Coolaler(Famous Japanese overclocker) can sneak out without breaking any NDA He might be under:


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Message 817661 - Posted: 12 Oct 2008, 17:55:13 UTC - in response to Message 817657.  
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It seems like the 920 is overclockable, At least according what Coolaler(Famous Japanese overclocker) can sneak out without breaking any NDA He might be under:


It might be "overclockable", but that doesn't mean its unlocked. There's more than one way to overclock without unlocking the multiplier. My guess is that since the Multiplier and Bus Speed portions are blotted out, that indeed he is changing the bus speed (not that its a "bus" anymore).

I'm sure you can change the multiplier downward too, which is what most Core2s can do as well.
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Message 817673 - Posted: 12 Oct 2008, 18:02:57 UTC - in response to Message 817661.  

It seems like the 920 is overclockable, At least according what Coolaler(Famous Japanese overclocker) can sneak out without breaking any NDA He might be under:


It might be "overclockable", but that doesn't mean its unlocked. There's more than one way to overclock without unlocking the multiplier. My guess is that since the Multiplier and Bus Speed portions are blotted out, that indeed he is changing the bus speed (not that its a "bus" anymore).

I'm sure you can change the multiplier downward too, which is what most Core2s can do as well.

Since It's an ES(Engineering Sample) which are always just Extreme cpus(Unlocked), Everything is wide open, But It does show the potential in any case, So We wait.
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Message 817675 - Posted: 12 Oct 2008, 18:04:04 UTC - in response to Message 817652.  

2.93Ghz @ $562 US!?
Thats... $943 NZ... No way in Hell Intel...

I'll settle for the Core i7 920 Until further notice, Thanks.



Guys, i think it is necessary to remind everybody that putting 731 millions transistors in a so small area does not happen easily ... I am not acknowledging the price, but it takes thousands of designers, 6 to 7 years of research in process technology, and hundreds of quality engineers to produce Core i7. On the top of this, you got to build few Billions dollars factories ...

So, selling those parts at 120$ at the beginning in a nice dream, and AMD today's situation shows that it is only a dream, and does not work as a business model. You have to sell the high end parts higher to pay for the research. Got no choice.

PS: This is my personal opinion, I am not talking for my employer.
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Message 817679 - Posted: 12 Oct 2008, 18:08:02 UTC - in response to Message 817675.  

2.93Ghz @ $562 US!?
Thats... $943 NZ... No way in Hell Intel...

I'll settle for the Core i7 920 Until further notice, Thanks.



Guys, i think it is necessary to remind everybody that putting 731 millions transistors in a so small area does not happen easily ... I am not acknowledging the price, but it takes thousands of designers, 6 to 7 years of research in process technology, and hundreds of quality engineers to produce Core i7. On the top of this, you got to build few Billions dollars factories ...

So, selling those parts at $120 at the beginning in a nice dream, and AMD today's situation shows that it is only a dream, and does not work as a business model. You have to sell the high end parts higher to pay for the research. Got no choice.

PS: This is my personal opinion, I am not talking for my employer.

That's Ok Who as It takes a lot of Who's to design complex stuff these days, Of course there's 32nm and 22nm to go and then what does Intel and other cpu makers do? As that sounds like the end of the line. Everything here is personal opinion, So It's Ok "Who?".
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Message 817683 - Posted: 12 Oct 2008, 18:11:06 UTC - in response to Message 817675.  
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Guys, i think it is necessary to remind everybody that putting 731 millions transistors in a so small area does not happen easily ... I am not acknowledging the price, but it takes thousands of designers, 6 to 7 years of research in process technology, and hundreds of quality engineers to produce Core i7. On the top of this, you got to build few Billions dollars factories ...

So, selling those parts at 120$ at the beginning in a nice dream, and AMD today's situation shows that it is only a dream, and does not work as a business model. You have to sell the high end parts higher to pay for the research. Got no choice.

PS: This is my personal opinion, I am not talking for my employer.



If the US/NZ exchange rate was better positioned for importers like it was 3 months ago, I wouldn't have to say that comment... Now it's dropped like a stone over the past 2 weeks it is roughly US$1 = NZ 50 cents... it was at one point not too long ago US$1 = NZ 86 cents.... that's a huge difference.

I'm not denying that it's not an amazing piece of engineering... coz' it is.
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Message 817688 - Posted: 12 Oct 2008, 18:20:13 UTC - in response to Message 817673.  

It seems like the 920 is overclockable, At least according what Coolaler(Famous Japanese overclocker) can sneak out without breaking any NDA He might be under:


It might be "overclockable", but that doesn't mean its unlocked. There's more than one way to overclock without unlocking the multiplier. My guess is that since the Multiplier and Bus Speed portions are blotted out, that indeed he is changing the bus speed (not that its a "bus" anymore).

I'm sure you can change the multiplier downward too, which is what most Core2s can do as well.

Since It's an ES(Engineering Sample) which are always just Extreme cpus(Unlocked), Everything is wide open, But It does show the potential in any case, So We wait.


Precisely. And Engineering Samples are not reflective of final product.
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Message 817692 - Posted: 12 Oct 2008, 18:23:23 UTC

If the Core i7 920 is overclockable I'll be getting the Asus P6T Deluxe OC Palm Edition mobo.
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Message 817763 - Posted: 12 Oct 2008, 20:09:56 UTC - in response to Message 817692.  

If the Core i7 920 is overclockable I'll be getting the Asus P6T Deluxe OC Palm Edition mobo.


I'm sure it will be overclockable - its just a matter if the multiplier is unlocked or not, but you can still up the QPI speed I'm sure (just like you can up the HyperTransport speed on AMDs).
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Message 817833 - Posted: 13 Oct 2008, 0:01:44 UTC - in response to Message 817763.  

If the Core i7 920 is overclockable I'll be getting the Asus P6T Deluxe OC Palm Edition mobo.


I'm sure it will be overclockable - its just a matter if the multiplier is unlocked or not, but you can still up the QPI speed I'm sure (just like you can up the HyperTransport speed on AMDs).


HyperTransport on AMD cpus can only go so far(I do have an Opteron 165 that clocks to between 2.6GHz and 2.8GHz on an MSIK8T Neo2-F MS-6702E v1.0), But in Intels cpu that might be different, It's too early to say yet, I'm going to get one of the 3 cpus, which I don't know yet and either the MSI Eclipse or the DFI LanParty X58 or maybe the Biostar motherboard, I really don't know yet, too little information is available right now to make a firm decision.
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Message 818086 - Posted: 13 Oct 2008, 16:47:49 UTC

Sorry guys, no Asus P6T for me(Asus warns about Core i7 memory Voltages).
Say hello to Gigabyte X58 Extreme ;) (Gigabyte X58 Extreme BIOS settings posted).
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Message 818104 - Posted: 13 Oct 2008, 17:52:06 UTC
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I just found this review(more like an in depth preview to Me and 7 pages long, But no testing or overclocking) here(@ Tech ARP) on the Asus P6T Deluxe, It uses a Marvel chip for ide access instead of Jmicron and has jumpers for setting the max settings for the ram and the cpu, Plus the normally expected stuff while also having something New by using another Marvell Chip for SAS support(the Orange ports) that can in a pinch work as SATA ports, It's still too early, But It could be Asus, MSI or DFI(I've had good motherboards from all 3).
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Message 818110 - Posted: 13 Oct 2008, 18:11:40 UTC - in response to Message 818104.  

I just found this review(more like an in depth preview to Me and 7 pages long, But no testing or overclocking) here(@ Tech ARP) on the Asus P6T Deluxe, It uses a Marvel chip for ide access instead of Jmicron and has jumpers for setting the max settings for the ram and the cpu, Plus the normally expected stuff while also having something New by using another Marvell Chip for SAS support(the Orange ports) that can in a pinch work as SATA ports, It's still too early, But It could be Asus, MSI or DFI(I've had good motherboards from all 3).


Thanks for the link Joker...
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Message 818114 - Posted: 13 Oct 2008, 18:25:14 UTC - in response to Message 818110.  
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I just found this review(more like an in depth preview to Me and 7 pages long, But no testing or overclocking) here(@ Tech ARP) on the Asus P6T Deluxe, It uses a Marvel chip for ide access instead of Jmicron and has jumpers for setting the max settings for the ram and the cpu, Plus the normally expected stuff while also having something New by using another Marvell Chip for SAS support(the Orange ports) that can in a pinch work as SATA ports, It's still too early, But It could be Asus, MSI or DFI(I've had good motherboards from all 3).


Thanks for the link Joker...

You're welcome Luke.

I also found this on the TechReport:

Core i7, 45nm Phenom both make it over 4GHz
Although what attracted Me to It was the i7 part, The socket AMD uses under the Phenom is not one I want to deal with anymore.

And from the Softpedia there's this:

http://news.softpedia.com/newsTag/X58
Which is chock full of Articles and such.
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Message 818146 - Posted: 13 Oct 2008, 20:56:10 UTC

Being Monday is almost a Dead Duck, Here's an article on what could turnout to be the fastest X58 motherboard tested so far:


Asus Rampage II (the) Extreme ;)
(the) is an Asus inside joke.

anandtech wrote:

That board is the ASUS Rampage II Extreme featuring the soon to be released X58 chipset supporting an i7 processor. Designed for a very niche market and with limited production numbers, this board will be ASUS' primary weapon in the ultra high-end market against some stiff competition from Gigabyte and perhaps others. The Rampage "2 the" Extreme board is the latest and greatest contribution from the Republic of Gamers (ROG) design group.

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Message 818181 - Posted: 13 Oct 2008, 22:28:33 UTC

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Message 818523 - Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 0:16:09 UTC

SUPoX is going to make an X58 motherboard, Possibly their the Successor to Epox, maybe.


Some details can be found below.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?t=204642

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Message 818596 - Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 3:34:40 UTC

HardOCP has two great video previews of the ASUS and MSI X58 boards. One is over 11 minutes long, and the other is just over five minutes. Check 'em out!
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