More proof of your allegiance to corporate interests.

We can see your allegiance to corporate interests in the way you live your life. The clothes you buy. Dish soap. The computers. The mobile phone. The house. Cars. Books. Entertainment. Laundry detergent. That motorcycle. Your food. Your bed. Alarm clock. Lighting, heating, and cooling. Nearly EVERYTHING you have, own, or do, you sought freely to give your business to corporate interests. So, sure, this is more proof of your allegiance to corporate interests.

That's called hypocrisy.

The well conditioned among us believe that corporations can be free and have rights, just like a citizen.

Actually, that's just a law. But a corporation does not need law to exist. I can make a product and sell it to you and make a profit without a law that says I can. Were there much less law, people would still be doing exactly that.

The reason that corporations have legal rights, is because they are made up of voluntary associations of individuals who have a common goal. Those people generally don't lose their rights because they choose freely to associate with like-minded individuals.

A corporation is a man made THING! It is NOT alive. It is NOT human.
It is NOT anything outside of a vehicle to make money.

Duh. And you go running to them every single day, voluntarily, to give them your hard earned money.

Attributing human rights and freedoms to a corporation is as mad as allowing a bicycle those rights.

No, that's not true, because a bicycle is not comprised of individual humans. Corporations are given legal (not human) rights because they ARE comprised of individual humans and because the benefits (nearly infinite and affordable goods and services) greatly outweigh the costs.

There lies your drivel mate.

How evasive.

The "drivel" I asked you about specifically, and repeatedly is why you seem to think that Mother Jones can say whatever it wants, but National Review cannot. Or why Moore can say whatever he wants, but Limbaugh cannot. Or why antiwar.com can say whatever it wants, but CNNMoney.com cannot.

Here, I'll start it for you, "Rush, the people I, Bob Waite, disagree with, cannot have the same rights as the people I do agree with because..."

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
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At no point did I ever state that those who speak from a differing perspective should have to voice.
That does not mean they have anything better than drivel to contribute.

This whole issue started with the complaint I have with corporate media and it's self-interests when producing "news".

There used to be a fairness act at one time, where equal time had to be offered to opposing viewpoints over the public airwaves. Gone.

There used to be a diversity of ownership in the communications industry that naturally lead to diversity of opinion. Bought.

If infotainment is to take the place of the real news, at least ensure that there is truth in packaging laws applied to it. Inform the public that what is being presented is more opinion than hard news.

The Daily Show exists because phony news exists. If there were no phony news present everywhere, the idea of spoofing phony news would not work, nor would it strike a chord with people.

Young people in this day have no idea what it was like to sit down, turn on Walter Cronkite, and receive real information...not his opinions on the news but the facts.

After Clinton signed the Telecommunications act, the news became drivel.

At no point did I ever state that those who speak from a differing perspective should have to voice.

Well then good. They can contribute whatever they want, however they want, no matter what you think.

That does not mean they have anything better than drivel to contribute.

Correct, anymore than your self-serving statements without reasoning are just drivel.

This whole issue started with the complaint I have with corporate media and it's self-interests when producing "news".

Your complaint is unfounded because they have every right to promote their self-interests, just like antiwar.com does, just like Michael Moore does, just like you do. They have the same rights that you do.

There used to be a fairness act at one time, where equal time had to be offered to opposing viewpoints over the public airwaves. Gone.

Of course it's gone--it infringed on people's rights. There's no reason that the Daily Worker has to give equal time to the CATO Institute or vice versa. There's no reason Mother Jones should have to give equal time to National Review. There's no reason public television should have to give equal time to the Klan or the Nazis. There's no reason FOX should have to give equal time to public radio.

There used to be a diversity of ownership in the communications industry that naturally lead to diversity of opinion. Bought.

Even if this is true (and given your penchant for making things up, that is unlikely), so what? There are now literally hundreds of thousands of outlets for people to find whatever opinion that they want. They don't have to go to Mother Jones or FOX. Not that they ever did, either. If you want to go to Al-Jazeera, go right ahead. If you want to your own media outlet, go right ahead. That CBS or CNN or FOX don't happen to do things the way you would have them do so, just means that you have to go somewhere else. Millions of people are perfectly happy with them as is evidenced by their profitability.

If infotainment is to take the place of the real news, at least ensure that there is truth in packaging laws applied to it. Inform the public that what is being presented is more opinion than hard news.

You are welcome to do this with your media outlet if you wish. No one else has to, and no one else is going to because people disagree on what is "infotainment" and what is "news." Since they do disagree, there is no way to enforce such a stupidity.

The Daily Show exists because phony news exists. If there were no phony news present everywhere, the idea of spoofing phony news would not work, nor would it strike a chord with people.

Yeah, sez you maybe. The Daily Show exists because it's funny and such things have been around for decades. SNL was doing that what, 30 years ago?

Young people in this day have no idea what it was like to sit down, turn on Walter Cronkite, and receive real information...not his opinions on the news but the facts.

So what? Young people in Cronkite's day had no idea what it is like to sit down, turn on the computer, and find millions of news stories, and all the facts they could ever want, without Cronkite getting in the way.

After Clinton signed the Telecommunications act, the news became drivel.

Oh yeah. Because you sez so, of course. The media outlets and websites of the whole world all went down the drain 'cause Clinton signed another law.

That's simply brilliant.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

That's simply brilliant.

Oh.
I don't know what to say.

Thank you very much sir.
All this time I was thinking you didn't really like me very much.

That's simply brilliant.

Oh.
I don't know what to say.

Thank you very much sir.
All this time I was thinking you didn't really like me very much.

I don't like or dislike you.

I give you the same amount of thought that National Review or antiwar.com does: zero. This is just a discussion.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

Your filter allows the corporate garbage through.

My filter, as I stated already, tries to protect working people from the garbage.

PS: for a guy who doesn't care what I have to say, you sure spend a lot of time trying to gun me down...TeeHee

If the corporation doesn't do good, their workers don't do good.
Corporations create the jobs not your unions.

If the corporation doesn't do good, their workers don't do good.
Corporations create the jobs not your unions.

Thanks for that well conceived thought

If the corporation doesn't do good, their workers don't do good.
Corporations create the jobs not your unions.

Thanks for that well conceived thought

Tell us again, why are all those unemployed UAW workers are still begging GM for their jobs back?

If I were them, I would just start building cars and put GM out of business instead of crawling on their knees to GM for a job.

I mean, that would make the most sense. And they could really show GM a thing or two, too!

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

Oh my
It's all so clear to me now.
Working people are to blame for sending jobs overseas

My bad!

Oh my
It's all so clear to me now.
Working people are to blame for sending jobs overseas

My bad!

Wow. I don't know what's worse, that you just make this crap that I didn't say up, or that you then post it.

If those UAW workers don't need GM, then they should be building cars and putting GM out of business. Crawling to GM for jobs won't help them--they are far too expensive.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

your self-serving statements without reasoning are just drivel.

One mans drivel is another mans rapids... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

This whole issue started with the complaint I have with corporate media and it's self-interests when producing "news".

Your complaint is unfounded because they have every right to promote their self-interests, just like antiwar.com does, just like Michael Moore does, just like you do. They have the same rights that you do.(quote)


no they don´t have, they are news company, so they are supposed to tell
facts, not opinions, if they want to tell their beliefs then they can do the same as antiwar or whatever, but then they can´t address them as NEWS.

no they don´t have, they are news company, so they are supposed to tell
facts, not opinions, if they want to tell their beliefs then they can do the same as antiwar or whatever, but then they can´t address them as NEWS.

Jeebus is this stupid, more stupid than usual.

News is just information about about recent events or happenings, or new information, or so-called "newsworthy" material. And who defines what is "news?" The person, company, website, or media outlet that is presenting it. Others are free to disagree.

But this means that these outlets CAN "address them as NEWS," because they are free to define news for themselves; that you happen to disagree is no concern of theirs, nor do they care what you think. That's the very reason to have a free press, they can generally cover what they wish, when they wish, however they wish, without interference from the Thoughtpolice.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

do you have problem to comprehend written text

No ho doesn't have a problem with written text.
He simply prefers to keep informed as to what Paris Hilton is doing rather than listening and attempting to understand an indepth story of how deregulation by the republicans lead to the financial robbery of a trillion dollars of tax payer money.

That's his right, and exactly what he has been defending with such passion.

I'll ask you again: when you make this stuff up, things that are clearly figments of your imagination, do you think that it helps your arguments or bolsters your credibility?

No ho doesn't have a problem with written text.
He simply prefers to keep informed as to what Paris Hilton is doing rather than listening and attempting to understand an indepth story of how deregulation by the republicans lead to the financial robbery of a trillion dollars of tax payer money.

Which, of course, is simply untrue. I couldn't care less about Ms. Hilton.

And I understand in great detail what causes gov't to take ever increasing amounts of taxpayer money: people like you, who beg the gov't to meddle in other people's lives. Sometimes you get money for stupid bailouts, idiotic foreign wars, and newgen nukes, sometimes you get a bit of money for welfare, and corporate welfare, the WHISC, and the CIA, sometimes you get a bit for health care and whatnot.

But all of those are OK, because if you support the system where it's OK for you to stick a gov't gun in someone's face to make them pay for your stupid programs, you can accept that they are going to stick a gov't gun in your face to make you pay for their stupid programs.

Happy?

That's his right, and exactly what he has been defending with such passion.

True, and it's also the right of yourself, and everyone else that disagrees with you.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
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Since this community has rules regarding phony accounts and so called 3rd party accounts and I have been reprimanded for exposing them in public how do I go about reporting them in private?\

What is the procedure for reporting these obvious violations of the rules regarding some of the posters here that supposedly were cleaned out by setiathome admins some weeks back?

Thanks.

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I did NOT authorize this belly writing!

Since this community has rules regarding phony accounts and so called 3rd party accounts and I have been reprimanded for exposing them in public how do I go about reporting them in private?\

What is the procedure for reporting these obvious violations of the rules regarding some of the posters here that supposedly were cleaned out by setiathome admins some weeks back?

Thanks.

These type of concerns should be directed to the Anon Admin directly, or you can use the red x and it will alert us Moderators. The choice is yours, depending on how private you wish to be.

Now, can we get back on topic please!

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it is funny, that people except that people here who are posting would have credibility in first place. they are people who you have never met. and know nothing about them and suddenly you are willing to believe some people and not believe some.everything here might be made up, so don´t take this so seriously

it is funny, that people except that people here who are posting would have credibility in first place. they are people who you have never met. and know nothing about them and suddenly you are willing to believe some people and not believe some.everything here might be made up, so don´t take this so seriously

Should We? ;)

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