Now that I have everyone's attention I requested and was granted a new name for this thread. There have been some good sugestions here. I like the raffle idea but may need a little more work on that. Keep them coming, please!

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Life is all fun and games until someone mentions 'funding'... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

To pay for computers, computer parts, electricity, maintenance and all the rest that goes along with crunching for Seti is a given fact. We all do these things.

To then NOT financially donate to the project side is not logical.


OMG...is that a double negative?

I do not think it was logical for Seti to start another project when the servers were already full up with Seti. It just seems to me the current Seti project is poorly run, maybe if it failed someone else might start a better managed project doing the same thing Seti tries to do.

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poorly run? I can't believe you just said that. What's the matter with you?

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Friends--let's focus on ways to help the project--not demean the staff or other's attempts to do good work for the project.

EVERYONE'S ideas are valid here--whether they've donated or not--the posting of constructive ideas is fully encouraged.

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making it mandatory would be illegal, as seti@home is a not profit organization, they can beg people to give them money but can not refuse to let us play if we dont donate. if they did it would have to change over to a for profit company, and most likely berkley would not let that happen.

Actually, "not-for-profit" means a whole lot less than you think it does.

There are "not-for-profit" organizations that charge a lot for membership.

The governing rules here are set by the Regents of the University of California, since SETI@Home doesn't exist separately.

... and even then, I suspect that they could charge for membership.

But that is kind-of off-topic. The idea here is that SETI needs to find more money. If they don't, the Regents won't bail them out.

So, we need to figure out ways to find that money if we want SETI to continue.

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Please...........Please...........

Let's keep this on topic.......ideas to raise funds for Seti.

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The best answer to immediate fund raising with little effort, EBay. Get the staff to start signing items and selling them away. Sell hard drives filled with space chatter. Sell a date with a staff member. Whatever needs to be done :)

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At least NASA still has the one Saturn V Rocket left in Existence, It is the most powerful rocket ever made to date.

Don't think so........Saturn VB, yes ;)

They were great days & sadly no more. What we really need is for some major event to get people interested again in science worldwide.

Look at Apollo 13 & the interest that drew, now if only we could get that interest in seti & with donations. 40% of the threads & debates would disappear overnight.

Saturn 1B I've heard of and of the mighty Saturn V rocket, But VB? It was never built. 6,000,000 of pure thrust and throw weight, Want to get to Pluto fast, You need a Saturn V, Sad to say We would have to reverse engineer any new ones from the sole existing example that is left in Florida, Which had been scheduled for Apollo 18's liftoff for the moon(363-foot tall/long launch vehicle).

The 1st stage of the mighty Saturn V Rocket for Apollo 18 mission as of 2004.
http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0404/06saturn5/



Ok back to topic, Wasn't Astropulse meant to help Seti in some form?

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John Macleod VII's idea of a raffle further clarified................

An International raffle twice a year with tickets costing $10.

Winner get's a day with the Project staff @ Seti with Lunch paid for & presented with unique project gifts. Provisio in raffle stating that minimum funds required.

I'm pretty sure that if this was started & successful, the project staff would not object to 2 days a year out of their busy schedule if funds gained were sufficient enough to enable an extra pair of hands to aid the project. Any spare could go towards more hardware or vice versa.

I, for one, would not object to providing another $20 for said raffle. For those winners who can not attend, notify the project & the next in line wins.

I'm pretty sure that UCB would help on this as they would get their administrative cut from the total received.

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Saturn 1B I've heard of and of the mighty Saturn V rocket, But VB? It was never built. 6,000,000 of pure thrust and throw weight, Want to get to Pluto fast, You need a Saturn V, Sad to say We would have to reverse engineer any new ones from the sole existing example that is left in Florida, Which had been scheduled for Apollo 18's liftoff for the moon(363-foot tall/long launch vehicle).
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Ok back to topic, Wasn't Astropulse meant to help Seti in some form?

Thanks Joker, I stand corrected. Must be my memory, it was 39 years ago. I've always thought that the Sat V was the early Apollo's but for the moon landings, I thought they were Sat VB (Built the Airfix model on 1st release all those years ago, & again, sure it was Sat VB).

Now you know my secret - Got "farm" to not only crunch but to replace failing brain cells ;)

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John Macleod VII's idea of a raffle further clarified................

An International raffle twice a year with tickets costing $10.

Winner get's a day with the Project staff @ Seti with Lunch paid for & presented with unique project gifts. Provisio in raffle stating that minimum funds required.

I'm pretty sure that if this was started & successful, the project staff would not object to 2 days a year out of their busy schedule if funds gained were sufficient enough to enable an extra pair of hands to aid the project. Any spare could go towards more hardware or vice versa.

I, for one, would not object to providing another $20 for said raffle. For those winners who can not attend, notify the project & the next in line wins.

I'm pretty sure that UCB would help on this as they would get their administrative cut from the total received.

I'm liking this more and more.............

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John Macleod VII's idea of a raffle further clarified................

An International raffle twice a year with tickets costing $10.

Winner get's a day with the Project staff @ Seti with Lunch paid for & presented with unique project gifts. Provisio in raffle stating that minimum funds required.

I'm pretty sure that if this was started & successful, the project staff would not object to 2 days a year out of their busy schedule if funds gained were sufficient enough to enable an extra pair of hands to aid the project. Any spare could go towards more hardware or vice versa.

I, for one, would not object to providing another $20 for said raffle. For those winners who can not attend, notify the project & the next in line wins.

I'm pretty sure that UCB would help on this as they would get their administrative cut from the total received.

Now a raffle's a good idea, Question is then what to raffle? Moon rock? Nah, NASA property, But a good idea none the less.

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The best answer to immediate fund raising with little effort, EBay. Get the staff to start signing items and selling them away. Sell hard drives filled with space chatter. Sell a date with a staff member. Whatever needs to be done :)

We have to be careful that whatever is sold would not be "University Property" since most of the active servers in fact belong to them.

So it becomes a question of how to "manufacture" artifacts that are still cool, yet represent the work being done.

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John Macleod VII's idea of a raffle further clarified................

An International raffle twice a year with tickets costing $10.

Winner get's a day with the Project staff @ Seti with Lunch paid for & presented with unique project gifts. Provisio in raffle stating that minimum funds required.

I'm pretty sure that if this was started & successful, the project staff would not object to 2 days a year out of their busy schedule if funds gained were sufficient enough to enable an extra pair of hands to aid the project. Any spare could go towards more hardware or vice versa.

I, for one, would not object to providing another $20 for said raffle. For those winners who can not attend, notify the project & the next in line wins.

I'm pretty sure that UCB would help on this as they would get their administrative cut from the total received.

Now a raffle's a good idea, Question is then what to raffle? Moon rock? Nah, NASA property, But a good idea none the less.

Pretty certain that if done right, S@H could hit $100k or more with raffles & auctions, & add in the regular donations, they would be a lot better off than they are currently.

With all the diverse trades of crunchers, there must be somebody out there who can come up with some more viable options?

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To answer a question posted earlier. Astropulse is a funded project.

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To answer a question posted earlier. Astropulse is a funded project.

Huh? Astropulse is funded, Seti@home is not? How can Astropulse ride piggyback on unfunded servers & resources ? Seems backwards to me.

I smell rotten fish...

Afterthought: Let's get some cash from Astropulse...

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Come on now...........get back to the theme for this thread, please.


Edit - I'm outa here for the evening. Now everybody play nice and keep it on theme.

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That is what Eric told me yesterday. It does make sense, since it takes a more detailed look at the data.

Off topic. I went to Berkeley yesterday and got a little tour. On topic.

That is when Eric mentioned the funding.

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$10 a ticket is really high if you expect to sell to the general public. I mean people in the know would do that much, but the less you know about what is done the less you want to give. Most raffles go with something like $1 a ticket, $5 gets you 6 tickets. You might be able to push it to like $2 or $2.50 maybe.

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