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Message 800693 - Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 5:56:02 UTC
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I note that S@H has changed versions within the last few hours from 5.27 to 6.03. No-one seems to have said anything about this. What amazes me is that 5.27 was 2110 KB, but 6.03 is only 397 KB plus 262 KB graphics (now a separate file) = 659 KB, less than a third of what it was.
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Message 800703 - Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 6:17:44 UTC - in response to Message 800693.  

I note that S@H has changed versions within the last few hours from 5.27 to 6.03. No-one seems to have said anything about this. What amazes me is that 5.27 was 2110 KB, but 6.03 is only 397 KB plus 262 KB graphics (now a separate file) = 659 KB, less than a third of what it was.


I wonder what the new additions are?

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Message 800709 - Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 6:37:36 UTC
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I wonder if I have too uppgrade now or if I can keep running optimized ap AK V8 until new one comes.
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Message 800754 - Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 11:07:04 UTC - in response to Message 800709.  

I wonder if I have too uppgrade now or if I can keep running optimized ap AK V8 until new one comes.

AK V8 still fastest for Intel's CPU and AMDs ones with SSE2 and up support.
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Message 800755 - Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 11:25:31 UTC - in response to Message 800703.  

I note that S@H has changed versions within the last few hours from 5.27 to 6.03. No-one seems to have said anything about this. What amazes me is that 5.27 was 2110 KB, but 6.03 is only 397 KB plus 262 KB graphics (now a separate file) = 659 KB, less than a third of what it was.


I wonder what the new additions are?

The mayor change is, that the science application and the graphics part are now seperate binaries.
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Message 800759 - Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 11:53:33 UTC - in response to Message 800703.  

I wonder what the new additions are?

One hope is that it fixes the "exited with zero status but no 'finished' file" problem, since it has been built with the latest BOINC 6 API. It may be fixing the original problem (not being able to read or write the checkpoint), but could be adding a new one with exactly the same error message (not being able to read the lockfile). Time will tell what it does here. ;-)
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Message 800761 - Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 12:02:18 UTC

I think that there is a typo on the Applications page:

SETI@home Enhanced
Platform	Current version	Installation time
Linux/x86	6.03	21 Aug 2008 22:10:45 UTC
Windows/x86	6.03	21 Aug 2008 22:10:45 UTC
Mac OS/X 10.3+	6.03	21 Aug 2008 22:10:45 UTC
[color=red]SPARC/Solaris	5.12	1 May 2006 22:43:19 UTC
Linux/x86_64	5.12	1 May 2006 22:43:19 UTC[/color]
SPARC/Solaris	5.12	1 May 2006 22:25:36 UTC
Mac OS X/Intel	6.03	21 Aug 2008 22:10:45 UTC
Linux/x86_64	6.03	21 Aug 2008 22:10:45 UTC
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Platform	Current version	Installation time
Linux/x86	4.35	22 Jul 2008 23:31:21 UTC
Windows/x86	4.35	22 Jul 2008 23:31:21 UTC
Linux/x86_64	4.35	22 Jul 2008 23:31:21 UTC

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Message 800888 - Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 19:06:51 UTC - in response to Message 800761.  

I think that there is a typo on the Applications page:

SETI@home Enhanced
Platform	Current version	Installation time
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[color=red]SPARC/Solaris	5.12	1 May 2006 22:43:19 UTC
Linux/x86_64	5.12	1 May 2006 22:43:19 UTC[/color]
SPARC/Solaris	5.12	1 May 2006 22:25:36 UTC
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So far I know is SETI Enhanced still a valid application version and produce valid results. There are also Solaris SETI Enhanced Multibeam (5.2x) and Astropulse applications available from volunteers.
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Message 800970 - Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 21:24:04 UTC

So what are the changes?

You would think there would be a huge list of things to go from 5.28 to 6.03 but the only thing posted here is that they moved the graphics support to separate binary - big whoop.

Both BOINC and now SETI@Home seem very keen on not posting version changes.
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Message 800985 - Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 21:44:16 UTC - in response to Message 800970.  

So what are the changes?

You would think there would be a huge list of things to go from 5.28 to 6.03 but the only thing posted here is that they moved the graphics support to separate binary - big whoop.

Both BOINC and now SETI@Home seem very keen on not posting version changes.


Please read Eric's response.

Basically, the only change is the splitting of the graphics from the computational app. This change is required by the new screensaver architecture that BOINC 6.x uses. The scientific calculations are exactly the same.
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Message 801139 - Posted: 23 Aug 2008, 4:27:54 UTC - in response to Message 800985.  

So what are the changes?

You would think there would be a huge list of things to go from 5.28 to 6.03 but the only thing posted here is that they moved the graphics support to separate binary - big whoop.

Both BOINC and now SETI@Home seem very keen on not posting version changes.


Please read Eric's response.

Basically, the only change is the splitting of the graphics from the computational app. This change is required by the new screensaver architecture that BOINC 6.x uses. The scientific calculations are exactly the same.

The screen saver change was required for Vista support (it also fixes a long standing problem where service installs would not show graphics without a moderate amount of security setting changes).


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Message 801938 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008, 6:35:42 UTC

So now Seti will not work on my Win 95 machine. What a pity. Bye bye.
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Message 801948 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008, 8:46:52 UTC - in response to Message 801938.  

So now Seti will not work on my Win 95 machine. What a pity. Bye bye.

Before you go, please read Eric's additional response:

Windows 95 and NT 4 or earlier: How to run SETI@home.
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Message 802105 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008, 20:09:50 UTC

I was already running 527, but it downloaded 603 itself. The address given in Eric's thread downloads something called libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll, not version 527 plus an app_info. It's the app_info file I need, because any attempt by me to make one causes more calculation errors with the comment that a library file is missing (but not which one!).
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Message 802107 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008, 20:19:13 UTC - in response to Message 802105.  

I was already running 527, but it downloaded 603 itself. The address given in Eric's thread downloads something called libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll, not version 527 plus an app_info. It's the app_info file I need, because any attempt by me to make one causes more calculation errors with the comment that a library file is missing (but not which one!).

I suggest you try downloading it again. I've just tried it: the first time I got a corrupt (truncated) file, but I got the full thing at the second attempt (2,023,023 bytes).

It contains that dll, but it also contains the other things you need - the .EXE file, an app_info.xml, and the sundry licence files.
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Message 802113 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008, 20:32:42 UTC

Thanks for your very prompt reply. Yes, trying again worked. I will try it all out in a few hours' time.
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Message 802138 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008, 22:35:24 UTC

Thanks again, it seems to be chugging away nicely now.
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Message 802146 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008, 23:06:46 UTC

Here's an interesting one. My main rig DLed 6.03 on the 21st, but didn't start using it until this morning (25th), but only for one WU. The other three instances that have been running all day since that one this morning finished have all been using 5.27.

Just thought that was weird. Is there an explanation for that, or what?
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Message 802162 - Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 0:02:33 UTC - in response to Message 802146.  

Here's an interesting one. My main rig DLed 6.03 on the 21st, but didn't start using it until this morning (25th), but only for one WU. The other three instances that have been running all day since that one this morning finished have all been using 5.27.

Just thought that was weird. Is there an explanation for that, or what?


When a WU is downloaded, it is 'branded' with the application that it is supposed to be crunched with. Since you apparently still have older WUs in your queue, they will be logged/crunched with the older science app.
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Message 802163 - Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 0:18:58 UTC - in response to Message 802162.  
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Here's an interesting one. My main rig DLed 6.03 on the 21st, but didn't start using it until this morning (25th), but only for one WU. The other three instances that have been running all day since that one this morning finished have all been using 5.27.

Just thought that was weird. Is there an explanation for that, or what?


When a WU is downloaded, it is 'branded' with the application that it is supposed to be crunched with. Since you apparently still have older WUs in your queue, they will be logged/crunched with the older science app.

Ah, yeah, I kind of figured that. Shouldn't take long to work through the 5.27's. I mean, I have 130 or so WU's in my queue. Should only take a day or two.

[edit: actually, it should only take a few hours. Just expanded the 'application' column and there's only 4 left. It's all good.]
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