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Message 798506 - Posted: 15 Aug 2008, 21:47:16 UTC

I have a wu that has restarted at 0% 2 times, restarts like this were a chronic problem with the previous version of boinc but I have upgraded. To my relief, things were running smoothly until this wu started. Is this still an issue with Vista compatibility and is there anything that I can do about it?

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Message 798510 - Posted: 15 Aug 2008, 21:58:39 UTC

It might just be a problem with the wu. What version of BOINC? Are you running an optimized application? Are you running a screensaver? Have you limited the cpu %?


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Message 798514 - Posted: 15 Aug 2008, 22:11:37 UTC - in response to Message 798510.  

It might just be a problem with the wu. What version of BOINC? Are you running an optimized application? Are you running a screensaver? Have you limited the cpu %?


I'm running 6.2.16 unoptimized and am currently using a windows screensaver. Cpu% is limited to 30%.

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Message 798545 - Posted: 15 Aug 2008, 23:40:04 UTC

Well, I've heard of issues with running version 6 and using boinc as your screensaver. But I'm not sure if that is what you are seeing are not. Is this on a MB or AP unit? Maybe someone else will pop in with some ideas.

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Message 798586 - Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 0:25:35 UTC - in response to Message 798545.  

Well, I've heard of issues with running version 6 and using boinc as your screensaver. But I'm not sure if that is what you are seeing are not. Is this on a MB or AP unit? Maybe someone else will pop in with some ideas.

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Well, both units that I am running have restarted now, there both normal units (not astropulse). something that maybe of interest is all the units that I have completed, since upgrading, w/out restarts have been small ones (5 hrs.), these two are larger ones (13 hrs. and 11 hrs.).

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Message 798609 - Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 1:02:49 UTC - in response to Message 798514.  

It might just be a problem with the wu. What version of BOINC? Are you running an optimized application? Are you running a screensaver? Have you limited the cpu %?


I'm running 6.2.16 unoptimized and am currently using a windows screensaver. Cpu% is limited to 30%.


The last time I heard from Jord (Ageless) was that the restarting WU bug is related to the CPU throttling. You said you upgraded to the latest BOINC version, so I'm assuming that's v6.2.16? If so, it sounds like the bug hasn't been fixed.

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Message 798621 - Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 1:20:28 UTC - in response to Message 798609.  

It might just be a problem with the wu. What version of BOINC? Are you running an optimized application? Are you running a screensaver? Have you limited the cpu %?


I'm running 6.2.16 unoptimized and am currently using a windows screensaver. Cpu% is limited to 30%.


The last time I heard from Jord (Ageless) was that the restarting WU bug is related to the CPU throttling. You said you upgraded to the latest BOINC version, so I'm assuming that's v6.2.16? If so, it sounds like the bug hasn't been fixed.


Your assumption is correct. Is there any way I can fix this issue or would it be best to continue to ride out the storm?

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Message 798623 - Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 1:24:26 UTC - in response to Message 798621.  

The fix for this is postponed to a future version of BOINC with a better way of using the throttling function. With future version, I mean something like 6.4 or 6.6, not any of the (still coming) 6.2 versions.

In the mean time, what can you do?
Well, either set your throttling to 100% (no throttle), or tell BOINC to use one CPU only. If you do want to throttle, use a third party program such as Threadmaster or BES.


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Message 800521 - Posted: 21 Aug 2008, 21:12:37 UTC

i'm having problems restarting keep getting messages to reboot but to no avail am running the graph scfeen saver but its not working eithr even after resetting under systems

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Message 800569 - Posted: 21 Aug 2008, 22:58:20 UTC - in response to Message 800521.  

i'm having problems restarting keep getting messages to reboot but to no avail am running the graph scfeen saver but its not working eithr even after resetting under systems

The graphics screen saver for S@H is not yet ready for BOINC 6.x. 6.x requires a completely new way of doing the graphics for the screen saver. S@H is, I believe, releasing a new version with 6.x compatible graphics soon.

You should only get one message to reboot, not multiples.


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Message 800573 - Posted: 21 Aug 2008, 23:10:13 UTC - in response to Message 800569.  

You should only get one message to reboot, not multiples.

lol, upon installation yes, but I think he means the "task exited with zero status but no 'finished' file. If this happens frequently, reboot your system" message.

For that message I have a nice juicy FAQ, which may or may not hold the solution for your problem.
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Message 810012 - Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 23:43:32 UTC

I have been down for a while and want to start crunching again, but I have a question before doing so; Would setting CPU throttling to 100% cause my laptop to run hotter?

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Message 810013 - Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 23:58:20 UTC - in response to Message 810012.  

I have been down for a while and want to start crunching again, but I have a question before doing so; Would setting CPU throttling to 100% cause my laptop to run hotter?

Yes. Some laptops have sufficient cooling to cope with 100% CPU load and some don't. If you have the laptop on a cooling stand, it will run cooler.

Warning, setting the CPU usage % to < 100% does not work well on some multi CPU machines. You need to set the % of CPUs instead.


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Message 810033 - Posted: 20 Sep 2008, 0:40:52 UTC - in response to Message 810013.  

I have been down for a while and want to start crunching again, but I have a question before doing so; Would setting CPU throttling to 100% cause my laptop to run hotter?

Yes. Some laptops have sufficient cooling to cope with 100% CPU load and some don't. If you have the laptop on a cooling stand, it will run cooler.

Warning, setting the CPU usage % to < 100% does not work well on some multi CPU machines. You need to set the % of CPUs instead.


It's set to use 50% CPUs on a duel core processer and is set to use 30% CPU time. Running it unthrottled is the only option left that I am aware of the can fix the problem that has been plaging me, however it is not my preferd option. My computer alredy runs hot. So, any other sugestions are welcome.

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Message 810048 - Posted: 20 Sep 2008, 0:56:39 UTC - in response to Message 810033.  
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I have been down for a while and want to start crunching again, but I have a question before doing so; Would setting CPU throttling to 100% cause my laptop to run hotter?

Yes. Some laptops have sufficient cooling to cope with 100% CPU load and some don't. If you have the laptop on a cooling stand, it will run cooler.

Warning, setting the CPU usage % to < 100% does not work well on some multi CPU machines. You need to set the % of CPUs instead.


It's set to use 50% CPUs on a duel core processer and is set to use 30% CPU time. Running it unthrottled is the only option left that I am aware of the can fix the problem that has been plaging me, however it is not my preferd option. My computer alredy runs hot. So, any other sugestions are welcome.

It should be OK witn 50% CPUs and 100% CPU time.


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Message 812980 - Posted: 28 Sep 2008, 18:57:09 UTC

Everything seems to be working good! Thank You to everyone who has helped me get things running, I'd still be at the starting gate with out all help.

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