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Message 795254 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 20:14:32 UTC

Work Units on my Mac are beginning to back up. I am completing them but they are not uploading at all.

In my logs I am getting a bunch of messages like this:
Sat Aug 9 16:02:17 2008|SETI@home|Started upload of 11jn08aa.6249.20522.15.8.20_0_0
Sat Aug 9 16:02:18 2008||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Sat Aug 9 16:02:18 2008|SETI@home|Temporarily failed upload of 11jn08aa.6249.20522.15.8.20_0_0: system connect
Sat Aug 9 16:02:18 2008|SETI@home|Backing off 2 hr 46 min 34 sec on upload of 11jn08aa.6249.20522.15.8.20_0_0
Sat Aug 9 16:02:19 2008||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.

This has been going on for multiple days. The BOINC status pages says the servers are up. I have restarted the BOINC Manager and
I have restarted the machine.

Any ideas why I cant upload completed work units?

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Message 795276 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 20:36:22 UTC - in response to Message 795254.  

Work Units on my Mac are beginning to back up. I am completing them but they are not uploading at all.

In my logs I am getting a bunch of messages like this:
Sat Aug 9 16:02:17 2008|SETI@home|Started upload of 11jn08aa.6249.20522.15.8.20_0_0
Sat Aug 9 16:02:18 2008||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Sat Aug 9 16:02:18 2008|SETI@home|Temporarily failed upload of 11jn08aa.6249.20522.15.8.20_0_0: system connect
Sat Aug 9 16:02:18 2008|SETI@home|Backing off 2 hr 46 min 34 sec on upload of 11jn08aa.6249.20522.15.8.20_0_0
Sat Aug 9 16:02:19 2008||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.

This has been going on for multiple days. The BOINC status pages says the servers are up. I have restarted the BOINC Manager and
I have restarted the machine.

Any ideas why I cant upload completed work units?



See this.

Green is outgoing (to us) blue is incoming (to SETI). As you can see, the router is DOA. Nothing in, nothing out.
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Message 795281 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 20:38:43 UTC - in response to Message 795254.  

I updated to the latest BOINC client and this did not help at all.

The message is slightly different now though...

Sat Aug 9 16:36:35 2008|SETI@home|Started upload of 11jn08aa.320.15205.14.8.222_0_0
Sat Aug 9 16:36:36 2008||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Sat Aug 9 16:36:36 2008|SETI@home|Temporarily failed upload of 11jn08aa.320.15205.14.8.222_0_0: connect() failed
Sat Aug 9 16:36:36 2008|SETI@home|Backing off 2 hr 2 min 59 sec on upload of 11jn08aa.320.15205.14.8.222_0_0
Sat Aug 9 16:36:37 2008||Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

Is there somewhere I can look to tell me if he servers are really up or down?

I was looking here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html
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Message 795285 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 20:41:49 UTC - in response to Message 795276.  
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See this.

Green is outgoing (to us) blue is incoming (to SETI). As you can see, the router is DOA. Nothing in, nothing out.


I get this

Average bits in (for the day):
Cur: 26.22 Mbits/sec
Avg: 49.20 Mbits/sec
Max: 95.66 Mbits/sec

Average bits out (for the day):
Cur: 4.06 Mbits/sec
Avg: 7.57 Mbits/sec
Max: 17.09 Mbits/sec
Last updated at Sat Aug 9 13:38:18 2008
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Message 795288 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 20:44:57 UTC


Don't panic.
It's just another comm's problem.
No one else can upload either.

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Message 795289 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 20:45:57 UTC - in response to Message 795281.  


Is there somewhere I can look to tell me if he servers are really up or down?

I was looking here:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html


Thats the status page, but it's seldom accurate. They sometimes have the situation where the Server processes are technically running, but not doing anything for some other reason (network problems, lack of disk space etc)

Right now there seems to be a major disruption that needs fixing on the server end, just have to wait it out.

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Message 795290 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 20:46:07 UTC


...........and it's weekend in the West!
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Message 795299 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 21:05:15 UTC - in response to Message 795290.  


...........and it's weekend in the West!

please point me to an other crunch job who has more stable servers (up-download)

possible it´s better to run true idletime..ie, waist cycles..Seti@ is fkdup
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Message 795301 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 21:07:45 UTC - in response to Message 795299.  


...........and it's weekend in the West!

please point me to an other crunch job who has more stable servers (up-download)

possible it´s better to run true idletime..ie, waist cycles..Seti@ is fkdup


Rosetta is a great project with (usually) minimal downtime. The great part of joining multiple projects is that you can crunch for a different one while one is having problems, and return when the problems are fixed.
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Message 795303 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 21:08:16 UTC - in response to Message 795299.  


...........and it's weekend in the West!

please point me to an other crunch job who has more stable servers (up-download)

possible it´s better to run true idletime..ie, waist cycles..Seti@ is fkdup


Between seti and einstein I always have work. try http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/
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Message 795345 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 22:16:55 UTC

Climate Prediction (CPDN) is another good choice as well. Of course, their units are really large, but at least they have trickles so you can get credit regularly.
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Message 795376 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 23:23:19 UTC

Eric has been contacted but is having issues getting to the machine remotely. So he is working on it. No ETA

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Message 795439 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 2:49:06 UTC - in response to Message 795376.  

Eric has been contacted but is having issues getting to the machine remotely. So he is working on it. No ETA

Regards



Not having a go at anyone but I remember when I first heard of the Seti work around 9 years ago. I mean the fact that I could add to their data just by running a program on my PC. Loved the idea. Did it with an old P2 233 and a dial up line and progressed over the years to what I have now (which isnt much compared to all of you).

I was, back then and still am now, happy to put in time when my computers are on and running (excepting my laptop which I really have to conserve for income purposes)and love the idea that in my lifetime, maybe something will come of it. Maybe not but hey, it isnt hurting me any to do it.

What I can never understand is the push to be number one. Oh sure, I check my own stats now and then. Sometimes for fun, a lot of the time to see if Boinc is having yet another "rest". ;-}

So I can never see why I would try to do the work of other projects. Sure there are some good reasons for doing them but so long as Seti has packets to feed me, I have computers to process them (even the old P3 600Mhz does its bit, built by me back in late 99).

I guess I am saying I cant see why people just cant be happy with it and leave the competition for the bowling days etc....

....but then that's me. I dont see helping as a competition in that I have to help MORE than others to be BETTER than others. Its almost like religion. If you dont have a certain brand, others dont like it. Bugger it. If you like it, be happy with it and I LIKE SETI!!

Crazy time over for now. Have fun, be happy and remember the one important thing in life:

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Message 795546 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 6:30:34 UTC - in response to Message 795439.  

Eric has been contacted but is having issues getting to the machine remotely. So he is working on it. No ETA

Regards



Not having a go at anyone but I remember when I first heard of the Seti work around 9 years ago. I mean the fact that I could add to their data just by running a program on my PC. Loved the idea. Did it with an old P2 233 and a dial up line and progressed over the years to what I have now (which isnt much compared to all of you).

I was, back then and still am now, happy to put in time when my computers are on and running (excepting my laptop which I really have to conserve for income purposes)and love the idea that in my lifetime, maybe something will come of it. Maybe not but hey, it isnt hurting me any to do it.

What I can never understand is the push to be number one. Oh sure, I check my own stats now and then. Sometimes for fun, a lot of the time to see if Boinc is having yet another "rest". ;-}

So I can never see why I would try to do the work of other projects. Sure there are some good reasons for doing them but so long as Seti has packets to feed me, I have computers to process them (even the old P3 600Mhz does its bit, built by me back in late 99).

I guess I am saying I cant see why people just cant be happy with it and leave the competition for the bowling days etc....

....but then that's me. I dont see helping as a competition in that I have to help MORE than others to be BETTER than others. Its almost like religion. If you dont have a certain brand, others dont like it. Bugger it. If you like it, be happy with it and I LIKE SETI!!

Crazy time over for now. Have fun, be happy and remember the one important thing in life:

Friar Tuck was the butt of Spoonerism jokes amongst the Merry Men.

Bowling??? Last I remember I had about a 235 average........man, that was about 20 years ago......you might stand a chance.....if we have a beer frame every other one or so......dang, those were the days.
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Message 795560 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 7:04:14 UTC - in response to Message 795345.  

Right -- Climate has been a reliable BOINC citizen. Also, for that matter, Rosetta, Malaria, and Spinhenge are favorites of mine. World Grid is a bit different about how they do things, but it also has run reliably.

That being said, the SETI message board environment is the best of the projects and the interaction with tech folks (particularly Matt's regular bloglike messages) is super.

Climate Prediction (CPDN) is another good choice as well. Of course, their units are really large, but at least they have trickles so you can get credit regularly.


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Message 795580 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 8:15:11 UTC

came home in a morning, all wu´s are done, nothing is uploading or downloading,
got computer with no work to do. so it is holiday to computer
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Message 795585 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 8:40:29 UTC

always have problems there is no week without any problem ... :( :(
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Message 795599 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 9:45:28 UTC

i got 7 work units on my ubuntu pc to be uploaded, and three on my windows waiting to be uploaded (maybe 4 at this time)
the truth is out there
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Message 795605 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 10:07:44 UTC

How much of this download/upload problem is of our own making I have 3 hosts two quads and a Duo this requires a minimum of ten WU's where as six months ago before I replaced them they were all single core and required only three Wu's

All extra work for the splitters and extra storage when returned.

It would be interesting to compare hosts/CPU

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Message 795606 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 10:13:30 UTC

I've got 12 on my laptop waiting to upload and 5 on this PC. This PC and my main cruncher are chewing on AP right now, still 50+ hours here and 30+ hours at home left to go on AP. I wouldn't let the laptop have an AP, takes 75-120 hours on the 2 I've got going now.
The AP workunits are good for the weekends, they help to make sure I've got enough work to last until Matt & Co come in on Monday and kick the servers.
I've been crunching SETI from almost the 1st day it was available, and I plan to be crunching right up until the day they shut the servers down for good.
Don't stress over workunits not uploading, they'll get things resolved and we'll be able to upload by mid-day on Monday, I have no doubt.
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