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Message 785624 - Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 4:04:58 UTC - in response to Message 785575.  

I'm sure it should be covered in a separate class,

One dedicated to presenting an overview of all religions. The book "Angels and Demons" gives a nice picture of the head-butting competition that's been perpetuated between science and religion. (Religion having started it.)

At this point in the game called civilization, (Though the name doesn't suit the phenomenon.), we really need some understanding between peoples. Too much fear and hate in our world and the solution starts with our children. We "Adults" are far to dull and set in our ignorance.

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I can imagine that in some places in the US a comparative religion class would end up being "Why [insert major religion of town here] is right and all other religions are wrong. This would just make it a further reinforcement of religious hatred. If it would be certain that the class would teach the good parts of all religions (including those that are NOT popular in the local school district) then I believe it would be a good idea. However with so much local control, this is impossible.

I took a class similar to this from my church. The class specifically never mentioned the religion of that church but was designed to give a sense of the belief systems of other religions.



Always a risk of bias in all classes, John. It's something that needs to be watched, indeed.


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Message 786028 - Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 23:31:54 UTC - in response to Message 785624.  

I'm sure it should be covered in a separate class,

One dedicated to presenting an overview of all religions. The book "Angels and Demons" gives a nice picture of the head-butting competition that's been perpetuated between science and religion. (Religion having started it.)

At this point in the game called civilization, (Though the name doesn't suit the phenomenon.), we really need some understanding between peoples. Too much fear and hate in our world and the solution starts with our children. We "Adults" are far to dull and set in our ignorance.

IMO


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I can imagine that in some places in the US a comparative religion class would end up being "Why [insert major religion of town here] is right and all other religions are wrong. This would just make it a further reinforcement of religious hatred. If it would be certain that the class would teach the good parts of all religions (including those that are NOT popular in the local school district) then I believe it would be a good idea. However with so much local control, this is impossible.

I took a class similar to this from my church. The class specifically never mentioned the religion of that church but was designed to give a sense of the belief systems of other religions.



Always a risk of bias in all classes, John. It's something that needs to be watched, indeed.


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In this case in particular, it is an essential guarantee that the problem would occur in many places.


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Message 786092 - Posted: 24 Jul 2008, 2:12:52 UTC - in response to Message 786028.  

I'm sure it should be covered in a separate class,

One dedicated to presenting an overview of all religions. The book "Angels and Demons" gives a nice picture of the head-butting competition that's been perpetuated between science and religion. (Religion having started it.)

At this point in the game called civilization, (Though the name doesn't suit the phenomenon.), we really need some understanding between peoples. Too much fear and hate in our world and the solution starts with our children. We "Adults" are far to dull and set in our ignorance.

IMO


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I can imagine that in some places in the US a comparative religion class would end up being "Why [insert major religion of town here] is right and all other religions are wrong. This would just make it a further reinforcement of religious hatred. If it would be certain that the class would teach the good parts of all religions (including those that are NOT popular in the local school district) then I believe it would be a good idea. However with so much local control, this is impossible.

I took a class similar to this from my church. The class specifically never mentioned the religion of that church but was designed to give a sense of the belief systems of other religions.



Always a risk of bias in all classes, John. It's something that needs to be watched, indeed.


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In this case in particular, it is an essential guarantee that the problem would occur in many places.



Problems with the teachers or the parents/community?


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Message 786370 - Posted: 24 Jul 2008, 14:07:46 UTC

problem is, they don´t have any evidence or fact.
all the rest is just opinions, but school is not place to teach opinions,
it is a place to teach to rely on facts and to use your own brains based on
facts, not beliefs.
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Message 786495 - Posted: 24 Jul 2008, 20:40:06 UTC

But it is a fact that 95% of all people on Earth are religious,

It's also a fact that these religious divisions and misunderstandings perpetuate war and hate. Why not try to change this through understanding?

I think people like the separation.

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Message 786526 - Posted: 24 Jul 2008, 21:03:39 UTC - in response to Message 786495.  
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Why not try to change this through understanding?

Because they have found that it is much easier to just kill them... ;)
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Message 786939 - Posted: 25 Jul 2008, 16:15:24 UTC

or stop believing any god. they don´t exist anyway.
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Message 787009 - Posted: 25 Jul 2008, 18:50:03 UTC - in response to Message 786939.  

or stop believing any god. they don´t exist anyway.

Try telling that to the luciferians... ;)
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Message 787426 - Posted: 26 Jul 2008, 8:35:51 UTC

you can´t of course, cause they need a god, otherwise their precious lucifer
would not exist. if you believe satan, you have to believe god too.
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Message 787785 - Posted: 27 Jul 2008, 2:26:43 UTC - in response to Message 787426.  

they need a god, otherwise their precious lucifer would not exist. if you believe satan, you have to believe god too.

Kinda makes ya wonder why anyone would choose to be on the losing team... ;)

(Even Atheists and Agnostics are knowledgeable enough to remain neutral. <-- not meant to be an insult.)
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Message 787899 - Posted: 27 Jul 2008, 7:56:55 UTC - in response to Message 787785.  

Kinda makes ya wonder why anyone would choose to be on the losing team... ;)


Are they ??

Kinda makes you wonder the way things are going ATM

I dunno

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Message 787917 - Posted: 27 Jul 2008, 9:38:03 UTC - in response to Message 787899.  

Kinda makes you wonder the way things are going ATM

Actually, I've been following along in my Holy Books for a while now, things are proceeding precisely as predicted... ;)

(It's getting so biblical that I'm nearly jumping out of my skin with excitement.)
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Message 791336 - Posted: 2 Aug 2008, 12:17:22 UTC - in response to Message 786495.  
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[quote]But it is a fact that 95% of all people on Earth are religious,


i don´t know about that, i am not, and i don´t think there is only 5% of people that feel the same.

(actually, only one i know is jeffrey, and he can be faking too)
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Message 791556 - Posted: 2 Aug 2008, 20:46:40 UTC - in response to Message 791336.  

But it is a fact that 95% of all people on Earth are religious

actually, only one i know is jeffrey

I'm the last one to go... ;)
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Message 792499 - Posted: 4 Aug 2008, 4:21:36 UTC

stick with it
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Message 792606 - Posted: 4 Aug 2008, 10:16:14 UTC - in response to Message 792499.  

stick with it


Indeed, no 'religion' for me, not in a thousend years!

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Message 792609 - Posted: 4 Aug 2008, 10:25:37 UTC - in response to Message 792606.  
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Indeed, no 'religion' for me, not in a thousend years!

You that old?!!!

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Message 792611 - Posted: 4 Aug 2008, 10:29:50 UTC
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A creative small thought:

... the Babel fish also triggered a digression about the existence of God, since the Babel fish was put forth as a fideist example for the non-existence of a deity...

And so... Why has no (G)god developed such a creature for all (H)his/(H)her creatures?...

Or is this all just some kind of joke?

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Message 792796 - Posted: 4 Aug 2008, 18:54:40 UTC - in response to Message 792606.  

Indeed, no 'religion' for me, not in a thousend years!

If there is a God, you'll be spending an eternity of years regretting that decision... ;)
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Message 792902 - Posted: 4 Aug 2008, 22:36:46 UTC - in response to Message 792796.  
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Indeed, no 'religion' for me, not in a thousend years!

If there is a God, you'll be spending an eternity of years regretting that decision... ;)

Nahhh...

Eternity divided by 1000 years is still eternity. Hence the 1000 is an insignificance in comparison.

Then divide that one irreverent oink amongst the many other entities on earth, let alone add in all the ETs also, and you become an even greater insignificance.

Then add in The Total Perspective Vortex, and, you might get a fraction of the idea.

Whatever deities there may be or may not be, they will never notice.


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