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zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65773 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49
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I'm using the Asus P5K Deluxe on PC1, What are You using Fred?
Asus P5K Deluxe (WiFi-AP Edition) is what it says on the box.
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Well I looked in the manual for this "Performance Level" parameter and I couldn't find It anywhere where It would matter outside of 2 places that don't have anything to do with the Bios of course), I have the ram and cpu set to 1:1, the timing at 5-5-5-15 and the ram at 470MHz, with the vcore @ 1.375v, cpu pll at 1.7v and the ram voltage at 2.35v(This is Patriot ram), pci-e is set at 100MHz and those are what settings that I remember off hand from the Bios. :D The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's
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zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65773 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49
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I'm using the Asus P5K Deluxe on PC1, What are You using Fred?
Asus P5K Deluxe (WiFi-AP Edition) is what it says on the box.
F.
Same one I am using....
Popular motherboard isn't It? ;)
Oh I changed from SSSE3x to SSE4.1 today, Maybe that could help some, As the average RAC here for Me looks to be flattening off after I did that. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's
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Uli Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 6 Feb 00 Posts: 10923 Credit: 5,996,015 RAC: 1
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Thanks for the pics Mark.
Happy birthday Joker. Pluto will always be a planet to me.
Seti Ambassador
Not to late to order an Anni Shirt
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Fred W Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0
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I'm using the Asus P5K Deluxe on PC1, What are You using Fred?
Asus P5K Deluxe (WiFi-AP Edition) is what it says on the box.
F.
Same one I am using....
Popular motherboard isn't It? ;)
Oh I changed from SSSE3x to SSE4.1 today, Maybe that could help some, As the average RAC here for Me looks to be flattening off after I did that.
I second the (belated) Happy Birthday Joker.
"Performance Level" is the label in Memset which allows fine control over this parameter from within Windows. If you get it wrong, Windows freezes but a re-boot fixes that. This is the parameter that is changed by "Transaction Booster" in the BIOS options of the P5K.
I, and I believe Mark too, have found that the SSSE3x is actually slightly better for this board than the SSE4.1 for 45nm quaddies but it will be interesting if your 9300 gives different results (note: the differences are very small.
F.
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rebest Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 16 Apr 00 Posts: 1296 Credit: 45,357,093 RAC: 0
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WARNING....Not for the squeamish...this is not a pretty rig...LOL.
This makes me think of this exchange from star wars:
"What a piece of junk!"
"She'll make point five past lightspeed. She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself."
―Luke Skywalker and Han Solo
BTW - looks like a fun project.
LOL. I was just thinking that all Mark needs now is a used Delorean and some borrowed plutonium.....
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kittyman Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004
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WARNING....Not for the squeamish...this is not a pretty rig...LOL.
This makes me think of this exchange from star wars:
"What a piece of junk!"
"She'll make point five past lightspeed. She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself."
―Luke Skywalker and Han Solo
BTW - looks like a fun project.
LOL. I was just thinking that all Mark needs now is a used Delorean and some borrowed plutonium.....
Heh heh....I'll just go forward in time and get the majik WU from the Seti servers and transplant it onto the Frozen Penny....
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster
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zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65773 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49
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I'm using the Asus P5K Deluxe on PC1, What are You using Fred?
Asus P5K Deluxe (WiFi-AP Edition) is what it says on the box.
F.
Same one I am using....
Popular motherboard isn't It? ;)
Oh I changed from SSSE3x to SSE4.1 today, Maybe that could help some, As the average RAC here for Me looks to be flattening off after I did that.
I second the (belated) Happy Birthday Joker.
"Performance Level" is the label in Memset which allows fine control over this parameter from within Windows. If you get it wrong, Windows freezes but a re-boot fixes that. This is the parameter that is changed by "Transaction Booster" in the BIOS options of the P5K.
I, and I believe Mark too, have found that the SSSE3x is actually slightly better for this board than the SSE4.1 for 45nm quaddies but it will be interesting if your 9300 gives different results (note: the differences are very small.
F.
Ok I downloaded Memset 3.4, I've changed the Performance level from 12 to 10 to see what happens, The RAC on PC1 is at 5293.68 as I type this(It was at 5289.?? But It changed on Me before I could get the last two numbers drat), If I don't have any problems I'll raise It again to 8 and then soon enough as I'm set to 6 where I think I might stop. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's
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zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65773 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49
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WARNING....Not for the squeamish...this is not a pretty rig...LOL.
This makes me think of this exchange from star wars:
"What a piece of junk!"
"She'll make point five past lightspeed. She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself."
―Luke Skywalker and Han Solo
BTW - looks like a fun project.
LOL. I was just thinking that all Mark needs now is a used Delorean and some borrowed plutonium.....
Heh heh....I'll just go forward in time and get the majik WU from the Seti servers and transplant it onto the Frozen Penny....
Nah He needs the flying Steam Locomotive from the end of the 3rd movie, The Delorean got crushed just before that, Besides It needed some work done to the ignition system as It had a tendency on that one Delorean to be a cranky starter at times. Of course If the Time Travel equipment were transplanted into the Flying Sub... ;) The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's
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Fred W Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0
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I'm using the Asus P5K Deluxe on PC1, What are You using Fred?
Asus P5K Deluxe (WiFi-AP Edition) is what it says on the box.
F.
Same one I am using....
Popular motherboard isn't It? ;)
Oh I changed from SSSE3x to SSE4.1 today, Maybe that could help some, As the average RAC here for Me looks to be flattening off after I did that.
I second the (belated) Happy Birthday Joker.
"Performance Level" is the label in Memset which allows fine control over this parameter from within Windows. If you get it wrong, Windows freezes but a re-boot fixes that. This is the parameter that is changed by "Transaction Booster" in the BIOS options of the P5K.
I, and I believe Mark too, have found that the SSSE3x is actually slightly better for this board than the SSE4.1 for 45nm quaddies but it will be interesting if your 9300 gives different results (note: the differences are very small.
F.
Ok I downloaded Memset 3.4, I've changed the Performance level from 12 to 10 to see what happens, The RAC on PC1 is at 5293.68 as I type this(It was at 5289.?? But It changed on Me before I could get the last two numbers drat), If I don't have any problems I'll raise It again to 8 and then soon enough as I'm set to 6 where I think I might stop.
Good plan. You will certainly not get it below 6 without Windows freezing; you might get away with 8.
F.
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kittyman Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004
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Good plan. You will certainly not get it below 6 without Windows freezing; you might get away with 8.
F.
Fred...were you not able to make the change in the bios with the transaction booster? Or was it changing too many parameters at once to get a handle on?
The only problem I can see with Memset is that you would have to reenter the changes every time the rig is rebooted, correct?
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster
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Fred W Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0
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Good plan. You will certainly not get it below 6 without Windows freezing; you might get away with 8.
F.
Fred...were you not able to make the change in the bios with the transaction booster? Or was is changing too many parameters at once to get a handle on?
The only problem I can see with Memset is that you would have to reenter the changes every time the rig is rebooted, correct?
Yes, I did the testing with Memset to see what minimum value was stable in Windows and then used Transaction Booster in Bios and checked that didn't set the value any lower than the best I'd achieved with Memset.
I then did a full Memtest86+ run and 8 hours+ of Prime95 before letting it loose on SETI WU's.
So far as I can tell, that is the only parameter that is changed by the Transaction Booster but it does have a significant impact on RAM latency (as noted on Anandtech).
F.
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kittyman Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004
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Good plan. You will certainly not get it below 6 without Windows freezing; you might get away with 8.
F.
Fred...were you not able to make the change in the bios with the transaction booster? Or was is changing too many parameters at once to get a handle on?
The only problem I can see with Memset is that you would have to reenter the changes every time the rig is rebooted, correct?
Yes, I did the testing with Memset to see what value was stable in Windows and then used Transaction Booster in Bios and checked that didn't set the value any lower than the best I'd achieved with Memset.
I then did a full Memtest86+ run and 8 hours+ of Prime95 before letting it loose on SETI WU's.
So far as I can tell, that is the only parameter that is changed by the Transaction Booster but it does have a significant impact on RAM latency (as noted on Anandtech).
F.
OK, that makes sense...I can see why it may have been a bit tedious to do. Too bad you cannot set the performance level directly in bios instead of having to guess what the 'transaction booster' is gonna do, eh?
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster
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zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65773 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49
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Good plan. You will certainly not get it below 6 without Windows freezing; you might get away with 8.
F.
Fred...were you not able to make the change in the bios with the transaction booster? Or was is changing too many parameters at once to get a handle on?
The only problem I can see with Memset is that you would have to reenter the changes every time the rig is rebooted, correct?
Yes, I did the testing with Memset to see what value was stable in Windows and then used Transaction Booster in Bios and checked that didn't set the value any lower than the best I'd achieved with Memset.
I then did a full Memtest86+ run and 8 hours+ of Prime95 before letting it loose on SETI WU's.
So far as I can tell, that is the only parameter that is changed by the Transaction Booster but it does have a significant impact on RAM latency (as noted on Anandtech).
F.
OK, that makes sense...I can see why it may have been a bit tedious to do. Too bad you cannot set the performance level directly in bios instead of having to guess what the 'transaction booster' is gonna do, eh?
That would be nice, But when has the Bios ever played nice? We take what they give US sometimes. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's
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zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65773 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49
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I'm using the Asus P5K Deluxe on PC1, What are You using Fred?
Asus P5K Deluxe (WiFi-AP Edition) is what it says on the box.
F.
Same one I am using....
Popular motherboard isn't It? ;)
Oh I changed from SSSE3x to SSE4.1 today, Maybe that could help some, As the average RAC here for Me looks to be flattening off after I did that.
I second the (belated) Happy Birthday Joker.
"Performance Level" is the label in Memset which allows fine control over this parameter from within Windows. If you get it wrong, Windows freezes but a re-boot fixes that. This is the parameter that is changed by "Transaction Booster" in the BIOS options of the P5K.
I, and I believe Mark too, have found that the SSSE3x is actually slightly better for this board than the SSE4.1 for 45nm quaddies but it will be interesting if your 9300 gives different results (note: the differences are very small.
F.
Ok I downloaded Memset 3.4, I've changed the Performance level from 12 to 10 to see what happens, The RAC on PC1 is at 5293.68 as I type this(It was at 5289.?? But It changed on Me before I could get the last two numbers drat), If I don't have any problems I'll raise It again to 8 and then soon enough as I'm set to 6 where I think I might stop.
Good plan. You will certainly not get it below 6 without Windows freezing; you might get away with 8.
F.
Yep I'm in 8 now, No problems, I think I'll leave It there though. And I went back to SSSE3x and PC1's RAC is at about 5,325 right now. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's
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Fred W Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0
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Yep I'm in 8 now, No problems, I think I'll leave It there though. And I went back to SSSE3x and PC1's RAC is at about 5,325 right now.
That's good. Your RAC's going up while everyone else's is heading south :(
F.
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zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65773 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49
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Yep I'm in 8 now, No problems, I think I'll leave It there though. And I went back to SSSE3x and PC1's RAC is at about 5,325 right now.
That's good. Your RAC's going up while everyone else's is heading south :(
F.
Oops, I misspoke It's now at 5,336.49 and the work units are really small at about 15 minutes each, I've got a flood of shorties. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's
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[KWSN]John Galt 007 Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 9 Nov 99 Posts: 2444 Credit: 25,086,197 RAC: 0
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Yep I'm in 8 now, No problems, I think I'll leave It there though. And I went back to SSSE3x and PC1's RAC is at about 5,325 right now.
That's good. Your RAC's going up while everyone else's is heading south :(
F.
Oops, I misspoke It's now at 5,336.49 and the work units are really small at about 15 minutes each, I've got a flood of shorties.
...and I can't get my Q9300 above 5000 RAC to save my behind...Guess I gotta get me one of them P5K Deluxe thingies...Now where is that credit card...
@Mark...about the Penny...and the other PCs...do you run all of them with the sides off? What is the switch in the middle of the bottom of the case for? And on the Q9450, what is the meter in the bottom of the picture for?
Just wondering...
(and nice pics...very clear and sharp detail...much better than my Nikon Coolpix 8700)
Clk2HlpSetiCty::: PayIt4ward
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zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65773 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49
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Yep I'm in 8 now, No problems, I think I'll leave It there though. And I went back to SSSE3x and PC1's RAC is at about 5,325 right now.
That's good. Your RAC's going up while everyone else's is heading south :(
F.
Oops, I misspoke It's now at 5,336.49 and the work units are really small at about 15 minutes each, I've got a flood of shorties.
...and I can't get my Q9300 above 5000 RAC to save my behind...Guess I gotta get me one of them P5K Deluxe thingies...Now where is that credit card...
@Mark...about the Penny...and the other PCs...do you run all of them with the sides off? What is the switch in the middle of the bottom of the case for? And on the Q9450, what is the meter in the bottom of the picture for?
Just wondering...
(and nice pics...very clear and sharp detail...much better than my Nikon Coolpix 8700)
Of course It doesn't hurt that during 108F temps outside, PC1 to PC3(Left to Right) are near the remote controlled swamp cooler. :D PC2 has 2 fan controllers for a bit, Why? As the 3.5" one is firmly stuck in the case as It's a piece of crap and The case cover is off as a result as I haven't felt like working on the PCs recently.
The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's
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kittyman Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004
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...and I can't get my Q9300 above 5000 RAC to save my behind...Guess I gotta get me one of them P5K Deluxe thingies...Now where is that credit card...
@Mark...about the Penny...and the other PCs...do you run all of them with the sides off? What is the switch in the middle of the bottom of the case for? And on the Q9450, what is the meter in the bottom of the picture for?
Just wondering...
(and nice pics...very clear and sharp detail...much better than my Nikon Coolpix 8700)
Hiya John...
Yep, I run all of them side off.....that way the TTBT gets the coolest outside air possible, instead of warmer air from inside of a closed case...
The switch in the bottom of the Penny case is just something I cobbled in for the start and reset switches from another case when the little teeny wires broke off of this case's switches.
The meter at the bottom of the Q9450 pic is a power meter that came with the Cooler Master RS-550-ACLY power supplies that I am running on all rigs except the Frozen Penny...that has a PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750...
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster
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[KWSN]John Galt 007 Volunteer tester
Send message Joined: 9 Nov 99 Posts: 2444 Credit: 25,086,197 RAC: 0
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...and I can't get my Q9300 above 5000 RAC to save my behind...Guess I gotta get me one of them P5K Deluxe thingies...Now where is that credit card...
@Mark...about the Penny...and the other PCs...do you run all of them with the sides off? What is the switch in the middle of the bottom of the case for? And on the Q9450, what is the meter in the bottom of the picture for?
Just wondering...
(and nice pics...very clear and sharp detail...much better than my Nikon Coolpix 8700)
Hiya John...
Yep, I run all of them side off.....that way the TTBT gets the coolest outside air possible, instead of warmer air from inside of a closed case...
The switch in the bottom of the Penny case is just something I cobbled in for the start and reset switches from another case when the little teeny wires broke off of this case's switches.
The meter at the bottom of the Q9450 pic is a power meter that came with the Cooler Master RS-550-ACLY power supplies that I am running on all rigs except the Frozen Penny...that has a PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750...
When I saw the meter on the Q9450, I thought it was some kind of guage for the power...made me think of a CB radio and tuning the antenna with a SWR meter.
As for running side off, my cases have a vent right over the CPU, and the TTBT can suck air thru that. Clk2HlpSetiCty::: PayIt4ward
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