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Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
I just got a new (to me) DP Xeon based MB to replace a PIII 800 DP that went south on me a while ago. It is a Tyan Tiger i7501 (S2723) running 2 2ghz Xeon procs, W2K SP4, and the BOINC client v5.2.1.3. It worked fine with the standard client, but am trying to optimize peformance on all my machines, and use the Oprimized clients. After the updated client was copied over to the proper directory per the instructions, during the startup messages, one of them reads an error: 6/8/2008 3:51:50 PM|SETI@home|Unparsed line in app_info.xml: It seems to start up fine, but I haven't seen that message until the new client (2.4V_Windows_x32_SSE2). Any thoughts on why this error is happening are appreciated! Here are some specs on this machine: From Intels Processor ID Utility: Intel(R) Processor Identification Utility Version: 3.8.20080505 Time Stamp: 2008/06/08 13:54:27 Number of processors in system: 2 Current processor: #1 Cores per processor: 1 Disabled cores per processor: 0 Processor Name: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.00GHz Type: 0 Family: F Model: 2 Stepping: 7 Revision: 38 Maximum CPUID Level: 2 L1 Trace Cache: 12 Kµops L1 Data Cache: 8 KB L2 Cache: 512 KB L3 Cache: None Packaging: OOI EIST: No MMX(TM): Yes SSE: Yes SSE2: Yes SSE3: No SSE4: No Enhanced Halt State: No Execute Disable Bit: No Hyper-Threading Technology: No Intel(R) 64 Architecture: No Intel(R) Virtualization Technology: No Expected Processor Frequency: 2.0 GHz Reported Processor Frequency: 2.0 GHz Expected System Bus Frequency: 533 MHz Reported System Bus Frequency: 533 MHz And from CPU-Z ------------------------- CPU-Z version 1.45 ------------------------- Processors Map ------------------------------------------------------------- Number of processors 2 Number of threads 2 Processor 0 -- Core 0 -- Thread 0 Processor 1 -- Core 0 -- Thread 0 Processors Information ------------------------------------------------------------- Processor 1 (ID = 0) Number of cores 1 (max 1) Number of threads 1 (max 2) Name Intel Xeon Codename Prestonia Specification Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.00GHz Package Socket 604 mPGA (platform ID = 1h) CPUID F.2.7 Extended CPUID F.2 Brand ID 11 Core Stepping C1 Technology 0.13 um Core Speed 1999.6 MHz (15.0 x 133.3 MHz) Rated Bus speed 533.2 MHz Stock frequency 2000 MHz Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2 L1 Data cache 8 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size Trace cache 12 Kuops, 8-way set associative L2 cache 512 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size FID/VID Control no Features Processor 2 (ID = 3) Number of cores 1 (max 1) Number of threads 1 (max 2) Name Intel Xeon Codename Prestonia Specification Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.00GHz Package Socket 604 mPGA (platform ID = 1h) CPUID F.2.7 Extended CPUID F.2 Brand ID 11 Core Stepping C1 Technology 0.13 um Core Speed 1999.6 MHz (15.0 x 133.3 MHz) Rated Bus speed 533.2 MHz Stock frequency 2000 MHz Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2 L1 Data cache 8 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size Trace cache 12 Kuops, 8-way set associative L2 cache 512 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size FID/VID Control no Features Thread dumps -------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU Thread 0 APIC ID 0 Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 0, Thread ID 0 Type 01001007h Max CPUID level 00000002h Max CPUID ext. level 80000004h Function eax ebx ecx edx 0x00000000 0x00000002 0x756E6547 0x6C65746E 0x49656E69 0x00000001 0x00000F27 0x0002080B 0x00004400 0xBFEBFBFF 0x00000002 0x665B5001 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x007B7040 0x80000000 0x80000004 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x80000001 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x80000002 0x20202020 0x20202020 0x20202020 0x20202020 0x80000003 0x6E492020 0x286C6574 0x58202952 0x286E6F65 0x80000004 0x20294D54 0x20555043 0x30302E32 0x007A4847 Cache descriptor Level 1 D 8 KB 2 threads Cache descriptor Level 1 T 12 KB 2 threads Cache descriptor Level 2 U 512 KB 2 threads MSR 0x0000001B edx = 0x00000000 eax = 0xFEE00900 MSR 0x00000017 edx = 0x00060000 eax = 0x00000000 MSR 0x0000002C edx = 0x00000000 eax = 0x0F01030F MSR 0x000001A0 edx = 0x00000000 eax = 0x00000089 CPU Thread 1 APIC ID 6 Topology Processor ID 3, Core ID 0, Thread ID 0 Type 01001007h Max CPUID level 00000002h Max CPUID ext. level 80000004h Function eax ebx ecx edx 0x00000000 0x00000002 0x756E6547 0x6C65746E 0x49656E69 0x00000001 0x00000F27 0x0602080B 0x00004400 0xBFEBFBFF 0x00000002 0x665B5001 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x007B7040 0x80000000 0x80000004 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x80000001 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x80000002 0x20202020 0x20202020 0x20202020 0x20202020 0x80000003 0x6E492020 0x286C6574 0x58202952 0x286E6F65 0x80000004 0x20294D54 0x20555043 0x30302E32 0x007A4847 Cache descriptor Level 1 D 8 KB 2 threads Cache descriptor Level 1 T 12 KB 2 threads Cache descriptor Level 2 U 512 KB 2 threads MSR 0x0000001B edx = 0x00000000 eax = 0xFEE00800 MSR 0x00000017 edx = 0x00060000 eax = 0x00000000 MSR 0x0000002C edx = 0x00000000 eax = 0x0F01030F MSR 0x000001A0 edx = 0x00000000 eax = 0x00000089 Chipset ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Northbridge Intel E7501 rev. A1 Southbridge Intel 82801CA (ICH3-S) rev. 02 Memory Type DDR Memory Size 4096 MBytes Channels Dual Memory Frequency 133.3 MHz (1:1) CAS# 2.5 RAS# to CAS# 3 RAS# Precharge 3 Cycle Time (tRAS) 6 Memory SPD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ DIMM #1 General Memory type DDR Manufacturer (ID) Kingston (7F98000000000000) Size 1024 MBytes Max bandwidth PC2100 (133 MHz) Part number KVR266X72RC25/1024 Serial number 220B3800 Manufacturing date Week 01/Year 02 Attributes Number of banks 2 Data width 72 bits Correction ECC Registered yes Buffered no Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts EPP no XMP no Timings table Frequency (MHz) 100 133 CAS# 2.0 2.5 RAS# to CAS# delay 2 3 RAS# Precharge 2 3 TRAS 5 6 DIMM #2 General Memory type DDR Manufacturer (ID) Kingston (7F98000000000000) Size 1024 MBytes Max bandwidth PC2100 (133 MHz) Part number KVR266X72RC25/1024 Serial number 220B4400 Manufacturing date Week 01/Year 02 Attributes Number of banks 2 Data width 72 bits Correction ECC Registered yes Buffered no Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts EPP no XMP no Timings table Frequency (MHz) 100 133 CAS# 2.0 2.5 RAS# to CAS# delay 2 3 RAS# Precharge 2 3 TRAS 5 6 DIMM #3 General Memory type DDR Manufacturer (ID) Kingston (7F98000000000000) Size 1024 MBytes Max bandwidth PC2100 (133 MHz) Part number KVR266X72RC25/1024 Serial number 220B3200 Manufacturing date Week 01/Year 02 Attributes Number of banks 2 Data width 72 bits Correction ECC Registered yes Buffered no Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts EPP no XMP no Timings table Frequency (MHz) 100 133 CAS# 2.0 2.5 RAS# to CAS# delay 2 3 RAS# Precharge 2 3 TRAS 5 6 DIMM #4 General Memory type DDR Manufacturer (ID) Kingston (7F98000000000000) Size 1024 MBytes Max bandwidth PC2100 (133 MHz) Part number KVR266X72RC25/1024 Serial number 220B0400 Manufacturing date Week 01/Year 02 Attributes Number of banks 2 Data width 72 bits Correction ECC Registered yes Buffered no Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts EPP no XMP no Timings table Frequency (MHz) 100 133 CAS# 2.0 2.5 RAS# to CAS# delay 2 3 RAS# Precharge 2 3 TRAS 5 6 There's a bunch more info than this I've edited out, if necessary I can post it. Hopefully this is enough, let me know what you think. Thanks! |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
First of all.........If you want to optimize, you should be upgrading to the new AK V8 SSE2 port, not the older 2.4v port.... If I recall correctly, the 'unparsed line' error was due to an extra space or blank line left in some of the app_info files, and is of no consequence...so you can safely ignore it... But do run cpuz to verify your cpu's capabilities...what you have listed seems to indicate SSE2 is the best it supports, and then get the new app here from the Luntics site.....it will perform MUCH better than the 2.4v app!! "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Fred J. Verster Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0 |
I just got a new (to me) DP Xeon based MB to replace a PIII 800 DP that went south on me a while ago. It is a Tyan Tiger i7501 (S2723) running 2 2ghz Xeon procs, W2K SP4, and the BOINC client v5.2.1.3. It worked fine with the standard client, but am trying to optimize peformance on all my machines, and use the Oprimized clients. Found some more, it looks like an SERVER, about 5 years old, but can be good cruchers. Certainly more powerfull as a PIII ! I've searched a bit, it has SSE2, NO hyperthreading though. But you can check that out by looking at the taskmanager and should see four threads/cores, under WIN XP, that is. Prestonia" (standard-voltage, 130 nm) * Based on NetBurst microarchitecture * All models support: MMX, SSE, SSE2, Hyper-Threading Model Number Frequency L2-Cache Front Side Bus Multiplier Voltage TDP Socket Release Date Part Number(s) Xeon 2.0 A 2000 MHz 512 KiB 400 MT/s 20x 1.475/1.5 V 58 W Socket 603 February 25, 2002 RN80532KC041512 Xeon 2.0B 2000 MHz 512 KiB 533 MT/s 15x 1.5 V 58 W Socket 604 November 18 2002 RK80532KE041512 And about the 'message from BOINC's manager', you can forget about that, it's nothing serious. And about optimizing, you could use theAK_V8_SSE2 version, witch is supported by by your XEON CPU's . *** Opt1m!ze and K33p 0n Crunch1nG ;^) *** |
Fred W Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0 |
Hey, guys - shouldn't we be recommending a more up to date Boinc client than the v5.2.1.3, too? I have only ever seen the "unparsed ..." message from pre-flop counter versions (but that may be coincidence). F. |
Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
Hi there, thanks for the quick replies. Yeah, from what I had read, SSE2 is all it's got. So a PIII 800 was a better setup than this Xeon rig? Also, I clicked on your link to get the updated client, but it only brought up the weather channel website?!? hehe Must have added the wrong link to the client I need. Can you re-post the correct link, I'd like to add it tonite, to get the most out of it that I can. I should have realized that this baord wasn't all that up to date, saw the latest BIOS update was from 2003, but it was only $99 for the board and $130 for the 4 gig of ECC memory, so not too bad, it didn't seem, and it was a dual processor. Well, should be good enuf for this box, is mostly just storage for me. :) Thanks again! First of all.........If you want to optimize, you should be upgrading to the new AK V8 SSE2 port, not the older 2.4v port.... |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Hi there, thanks for the quick replies. Yeah, from what I had read, SSE2 is all it's got. So a PIII 800 was a better setup than this Xeon rig? Also, I clicked on your link to get the updated client, but it only brought up the weather channel website?!? hehe Must have added the wrong link to the client I need. Can you re-post the correct link, I'd like to add it tonite, to get the most out of it that I can. I should have realized that this baord wasn't all that up to date, saw the latest BIOS update was from 2003, but it was only $99 for the board and $130 for the 4 gig of ECC memory, so not too bad, it didn't seem, and it was a dual processor. Well, should be good enuf for this box, is mostly just storage for me. :) LOL...silly me....here is the correct Lunatics opti app download page.....sheesh, I am usually more careful to check my links after posting...sorry. EDIT....Yes, I did check the link this time.....LOL. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
Hi again, having a small problem, have had it all day. I clicked on your link, to bring up the Lunatics site, but cannot get to the site. Times out, and won't load. Does it work for you right now? If so, any thoughts as to why I might not be able to get to it, and if it's down, is there a link to a mirror site to get the software from? Thanks! Hi there, thanks for the quick replies. Yeah, from what I had read, SSE2 is all it's got. So a PIII 800 was a better setup than this Xeon rig? Also, I clicked on your link to get the updated client, but it only brought up the weather channel website?!? hehe Must have added the wrong link to the client I need. Can you re-post the correct link, I'd like to add it tonite, to get the most out of it that I can. I should have realized that this baord wasn't all that up to date, saw the latest BIOS update was from 2003, but it was only $99 for the board and $130 for the 4 gig of ECC memory, so not too bad, it didn't seem, and it was a dual processor. Well, should be good enuf for this box, is mostly just storage for me. :) |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Hi again, having a small problem, have had it all day. I clicked on your link, to bring up the Lunatics site, but cannot get to the site. Times out, and won't load. Does it work for you right now? If so, any thoughts as to why I might not be able to get to it, and if it's down, is there a link to a mirror site to get the software from? Thanks! Go to the 'New Optimized Apps' sticky towards the top of this forum....you will find a recent post there that has some mirror links in it... You are not the only one having some trouble reaching the Lunatics site lately...there is a 'Lunatics Outage' thread about it..... "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
I found a pretty recent link from a post by Gecko_R7, main links to Lunatics site (still down for me) and the other was to a site in Russia... That site check out ok, anyone know? Or any other options. It was Windows 32 bit AK v8.0 SSE2 (AMD/INTEL) client I am looking for, correct? |
JDWhale Send message Joined: 6 Apr 99 Posts: 921 Credit: 21,935,817 RAC: 3 |
I found a pretty recent link from a post by Gecko_R7, main links to Lunatics site (still down for me) and the other was to a site in Russia... That site check out ok, anyone know? Or any other options. It was Windows 32 bit AK v8.0 SSE2 (AMD/INTEL) client I am looking for, correct? Yes, the Russia link you refer to is good... If you still have problems, post again and I'll forward you a direct link via PM from my DL server. Good luck, JDWhale |
Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
Well, got it and installed it, was a little interesting as I don't read russian, but it was similiar enough to other DL sites that I muddled thru. I installed it and restarted BOINC, didn't see that error, appears to be working correctly. Any way I can tell how much better the new enhanced client is working compared to the standard client? Thanks again! I found a pretty recent link from a post by Gecko_R7, main links to Lunatics site (still down for me) and the other was to a site in Russia... That site check out ok, anyone know? Or any other options. It was Windows 32 bit AK v8.0 SSE2 (AMD/INTEL) client I am looking for, correct? |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Well, got it and installed it, was a little interesting as I don't read russian, but it was similiar enough to other DL sites that I muddled thru. I installed it and restarted BOINC, didn't see that error, appears to be working correctly. Any way I can tell how much better the new enhanced client is working compared to the standard client? Just check the crunch times reported for the next few WUs your rig completes........from your account page, click on 'computers on this account', and then click on 'tasks' for that computer...page through the list until you see the most recent WUs reported and compare the times with units of similar point value from what you reported in the last few days....you should see them drop by a substantial amount..... Glad you got it sorted...good luck and good crunching... If you hit any snags, you know where to ask... "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
arkayn Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 4438 Credit: 55,006,323 RAC: 0 |
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JDWhale Send message Joined: 6 Apr 99 Posts: 921 Credit: 21,935,817 RAC: 3 |
Looks like the Kitties had not copied anything since yesterday afternoon when they posted the link for the animated weather map. I was thinking the same thing... even looked like yesterdays weathermap :-( |
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