As in all walks of life, there are those who help in various ways. On DC projects, it's the users by crunching, the testers testing & developers creating.

On a thread now closed, a question was asked which stated that moderating was not for one but a wish to aid by other means was suggested, in reply to another statement on another thread.

Rather than being answered, this post disappeared.

So the question is: - Does the project really want help or was the request just a throwaway statement?

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Sirus B

If I look at Help Wanted. There are things that are needed as far as more detailed tasks for Volunteers...

I will not go dig out Eric's post about PHP developers... It has been stated a couple of times (something about $20+K US to rebuild the seti web site that has gone begging and other things).

In the past you/everyone has had to get past Eric's Email filter and his backlog of incoming email. That makes it very tough when something was sent and not acknowledged. Why?

Over the years there are a few people that can catch Eric (it is a tough chase), they work to insure things are seen. Then to be honest, it is to be able to get it into his priorty list. Last year when the 4th administrator left for a better paying job things went downhill. They did not crash, but it ceratainly did not help.

As for Forum Moderators, that is easy. Email setiforums (at) ssl.berkeley.edu present your case, why you might want to be a moderator. Yes, there are volunteer openings.

For myself, I do what I can do. I spend time chasing things that are for Seti. That is all I can do.

Regards

Al

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Thanks for the reply Pappa. However, I think that we both crossed wires somewhere.

I am aware of the help wanted section & keep any eye on it. At the moment, the help required is beyond me.

As for the Mod situation, I am also aware of how to go about things. That was not the question.

The post in question related to simplification on the site. A statement was made calling for more volunteer testers. The question was how to go about it.

Boinc Alpha page stated that if using boinc v5 xx or higher, do not use this form but use boinc manager. Boinc manager does not show both alpha pages so one could not attach.

Question has now been answered, & as the account creation is now closed, will wait for the next opportunity. At the time of my orginal post above, was unaware of circumstances. Now aware & with question answered, you can lock this thread.

It's just a shame that one has to go around in circles to get some answers when it could have been simpler.

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I agree, things should be simpler. What was not said, is often missed unless you ask.

As you mention Boinc Alpha, my first post was in Seti Beta as many of those people work more actively and are used to things that go bump in the night.

I still am the unofficial middelman, if people email or PM me I work to get it to Eric... I guess the next time I speak with him I need to request that a new email address be created. volunteer (at) ssl.berkeley.edu, actuataly it should be a web page... Then you can state what you bring.
Over the years, I think the most important item that anyone can bring is patience.

If you want to get into BOINC Alpha, PM me and I will present a plea to David and Rom on your behalf.

Thanks for the reply Pappa. However, I think that we both crossed wires somewhere.

I am aware of the help wanted section & keep any eye on it. At the moment, the help required is beyond me.

As for the Mod situation, I am also aware of how to go about things. That was not the question.

The post in question related to simplification on the site. A statement was made calling for more volunteer testers. The question was how to go about it.

Boinc Alpha page stated that if using boinc v5 xx or higher, do not use this form but use boinc manager. Boinc manager does not show both alpha pages so one could not attach.

Question has now been answered, & as the account creation is now closed, will wait for the next opportunity. At the time of my orginal post above, was unaware of circumstances. Now aware & with question answered, you can lock this thread.

It's just a shame that one has to go around in circles to get some answers when it could have been simpler.

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Perhaps the "SetiForums" user (current Admin) could respond to these queries instead of having the moderators speak for him/her .

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Perhaps the "SetiForums" user (current Admin) could respond to these queries instead of having the moderators speak for him/her .

I would be deeply concerned if the seti forum address is going to the mods. It defeats the whole purpose of having it.

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Perhaps the "SetiForums" user (current Admin) could respond to these queries instead of having the moderators speak for him/her .

I would be deeply concerned if the seti forum address is going to the mods. It defeats the whole purpose of having it.

They don't go to the moderators unless you add the moderators email list to the address.

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Perhaps the "SetiForums" user (current Admin) could respond to these queries instead of having the moderators speak for him/her .

I would be deeply concerned if the seti forum address is going to the mods. It defeats the whole purpose of having it.

They don't go to the moderators unless you add the moderators email list to the address.

The moderators can "speak" in ways other than responding to emails.

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Perhaps the "SetiForums" user (current Admin) could respond to these queries instead of having the moderators speak for him/her .

I guess it depends on whether Admin have time to deal with forum issues as well as try to run the project? Maybe they are just too busy which is why they have appointed moderators to act on their behalf?

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Perhaps the "SetiForums" user (current Admin) could respond to these queries instead of having the moderators speak for him/her .

I guess it depends on whether Admin have time to deal with forum issues as well as try to run the project? Maybe they are just too busy which is why they have appointed moderators to act on their behalf?

There have been a number of posts recently by mods telling people to email setiforums@ssl.berkeley.edu

If the emails are going to be ignored, what's the point of having the account?

We're just trying to figure out what the new plan is. It would help if those in charge would be more forthcoming about how things work today.

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We're just trying to figure out what the new plan is. It would help if those in charge would be more forthcoming about how things work today.

Who is "We"?

If you are specifically trying to contact the Admin then "be patient" is the only advice I can give. If your query to them is forum related then the correct address to use is the one that goes to the moderators - they are the ones who will deal with forum issues and the Admin may well ignore these enquiries for all I know. The moderators address is: seti_moderators@ssl.berkeley.edu


edit - wanted to add that I don't think things are finallised back here yet, hence no announcement has been made.

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We're just trying to figure out what the new plan is. It would help if those in charge would be more forthcoming about how things work today.

Who is "We"?

If you are specifically trying to contact the Admin then "be patient" is the only advice I can give. If your query to them is forum related then the correct address to use is the one that goes to the moderators - they are the ones who will deal with forum issues and the Admin may well ignore these enquiries for all I know. The moderators address is: seti_moderators@ssl.berkeley.edu


edit - wanted to add that I don't think things are finallised back here yet, hence no announcement has been made.

"We" who have asked these kinds of questions in this and the locked Volunteer Mods thread, and have either not been answered or have had the questioning posts hidden.

I first sent an email to setiforums on March 30, and others since then, and none have been acknowledged or answered. Hence my subjective opinion that the address is a "black hole".

Has the setimods@ssl.berkeley.edu been changed to seti_moderators@ssl.berkeley.edu ?

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Has the setimods@ssl.berkeley.edu been changed to seti_moderators@ssl.berkeley.edu ?

I'm not sure what the "old" address was as I have never had cause to use it. I have asked the mods to look over my shoulder and make sure I have given accurate information here ;)

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We're just trying to figure out what the new plan is. It would help if those in charge would be more forthcoming about how things work today.

Who is "We"?

If you are specifically trying to contact the Admin then "be patient" is the only advice I can give. If your query to them is forum related then the correct address to use is the one that goes to the moderators - they are the ones who will deal with forum issues and the Admin may well ignore these enquiries for all I know. The moderators address is: seti_moderators@ssl.berkeley.edu


edit - wanted to add that I don't think things are finallised back here yet, hence no announcement has been made.

What about this address: setiweb (AT) ssl.berkeley.edu> ... ?
Is that a legitimate address used by the GROUP of moderators? Please answer honestly. (A PM is acceptable.)

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Has the setimods@ssl.berkeley.edu been changed to seti_moderators@ssl.berkeley.edu ?

I'm not sure what the "old" address was as I have never had cause to use it. I have asked the mods to look over my shoulder and make sure I have given accurate information here ;)

Been informed that both work and go to the same place.

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What about this address: setiweb (AT) ssl.berkeley.edu> ... ?
Is that a legitimate address used by the GROUP of moderators? Please answer honestly. (A PM is acceptable.)

I don't know. That address was probably around before my time on the forum! The only honest I can give is "don't know" - but why does it matter anyway? - you have the correct addresses to use in the previous post.

I'll not answer the same question by PM if you don't mind. Don't want to wear my little fingers to the bone answering the same question over & over.

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What about this address: setiweb (AT) ssl.berkeley.edu> ... ?
Is that a legitimate address used by the GROUP of moderators? Please answer honestly. (A PM is acceptable.)

I don't know. That address was probably around before my time on the forum! The only honest I can give is "don't know" - but why does it matter anyway? - you have the correct addresses to use in the previous post.

I'll not answer the same question by PM if you don't mind. Don't want to wear my little fingers to the bone answering the same question over & over.

The address apparently came into existence around April 2 of this year. If you're not aware of that address, then the admin need to know immediately that someone either was spoofing their domain name or hacked the server in order to set up an individual e-mail account for whatever reason.

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Perhaps the "SetiForums" user (current Admin) could respond to these queries instead of having the moderators speak for him/her .

I would be deeply concerned if the seti forum address is going to the mods. It defeats the whole purpose of having it.

They don't go to the moderators unless you add the moderators email list to the address.

I have heard that the experience of one poster was different and replies were sent to him from an email sent to that address that were from moderators and not admin. I would suggest that the admin check who has access to that address and make sure no mistakes have been made. I would also suggest that he or she makes sure that all those that do not moderate on this board are removed from the mod list.

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Don't want to wear my little fingers to the bone answering the same question over & over.

. . . and over, and over, and over, and over, and over... ;)

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What about this address: setiweb (AT) ssl.berkeley.edu> ... ?
Is that a legitimate address used by the GROUP of moderators? Please answer honestly. (A PM is acceptable.)

I don't know. That address was probably around before my time on the forum! The only honest I can give is "don't know" - but why does it matter anyway? - you have the correct addresses to use in the previous post.

I'll not answer the same question by PM if you don't mind. Don't want to wear my little fingers to the bone answering the same question over & over.

Most modern computer operating systems have features called "Copy" and "Paste".

Perhaps you need an upgrade?

:) (humor involved here - don't wig out)