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Message 734865 - Posted: 5 Apr 2008, 17:54:46 UTC
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Mornin all Youse Frog Legs! ;)

Xigmatek HDT-S1283 Heatsink "Fan" Tutorial for those that need some help installing the fan mounts for Your newest cruncher.

I've got a problem, I bought a Xigmatek HDT-S1283 and even though the heatsink looks nice, I'm having trouble getting the rubber feet(or whatever) into the little holes in each corner of the fan and no It's not a problem unique to this fan either, I have a Delta 120mm and the rubber feet don't want to go in there either. At this point I've pulled, pushed, pulled and pushed, pulled with fingers while compressing with needlenose pliers(I'd even thought of pulling with needlenose pliers, But I don't want to rip the thing in to two pieces), About the only way I can see to mount the fan or any fan to this heatsink is with super glue at this point, And the instructions? There a one liner(albeit in 7 languages), Not too helpful is It?

Securely fix (3) the anti-vibration rubber on (7) the Fan.




Sending It back for an in store credit right now is impossible right now(I'm flat broke), I'd have better luck selling It on ebay. And then get a Thermalright Ultra 120 heatsink. :D Besides I'm making progress, I got two of the little suckers in, Dang their TIGHT!!!!



I had to pull with the pliers while compressing the top with My fingers(Pushing down), then pull gently with the pliers on the bottom(the tip again), then shove some on the top(pliers), Then pull gently once again underneath once the top wall all the way in the hole and then It just popped into place(and once In, It's not made to be removed either). So It's on to numbers 3 and 4(Done), I'm insane I think, But hey I'm Your friendly neighborhood Joker! But at least I'm not Batty. ;)

Success!

Now I can mount the heatsink on Tuesday(When Seti is down), This Heatsink better do real good as It's a tough little thing to get the fan prepped, Once You get the first two rubber feet in It'll be a bit easier to do, Of course the instructions could have been less vague. :D
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Message 734886 - Posted: 5 Apr 2008, 18:54:16 UTC - in response to Message 734865.  

Mornin all Youse Frog Legs! ;)

Xigmatek HDT-S1283 Heatsink "Fan" Tutorial for those that need some help installing the fan mounts for Your newest cruncher.


Thanks for the "heads-up" and your tutorial.

The KingWin Revolution (similar design, less capacity) keeping Thurston cool came with the fan already mounted to the HSF. If I decide to upgrade to the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 as summer nears and room temp rises to ~30C, can you do this chore for me? IIRC you're planning for a couple more of these HSF if this one is effective.

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Message 734914 - Posted: 5 Apr 2008, 19:27:12 UTC - in response to Message 734886.  

Mornin all Youse Frog Legs! ;)

Xigmatek HDT-S1283 Heatsink "Fan" Tutorial for those that need some help installing the fan mounts for Your newest cruncher.


Thanks for the "heads-up" and your tutorial.

The KingWin Revolution (similar design, less capacity) keeping Thurston cool came with the fan already mounted to the HSF. If I decide to upgrade to the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 as summer nears and room temp rises to ~30C, can you do this chore for me? IIRC you're planning for a couple more of these HSF if this one is effective.

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It'd be cheaper for You to get some needle nose pliers, But yeah I could, Cheapest way is USPS Priority Mail and My time. It depends on which costs more I guess. I use pliers that are 6.5" long and these are close.


6" MINI LONG NEEDLE NOSE PLIER ELECTRICIAN JEWELERS NEW
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Message 735106 - Posted: 5 Apr 2008, 22:54:39 UTC

Try a little dielectric grease on the rubbers next time. A little clean up after
and you're good to go! If you miss any, it won't short anything.
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Message 735192 - Posted: 6 Apr 2008, 2:01:12 UTC - in response to Message 735106.  

Try a little dielectric grease on the rubbers next time. A little clean up after and you're good to go! If you miss any, it won't short anything.

Good idea, I hadn't even remembered about that stuff, Thanks. In any case My budget being limited would've delayed purchasing some, But now that I see It I can copy and paste It, there done. I generally plan ahead somewhat as best that I can as the future is a bit murky.
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Message 737574 - Posted: 12 Apr 2008, 0:38:11 UTC

Ok I just took off the stock slow moving Xigmatek fan and replaced It with a mighty Delta fan(to heck with what Xigmatek says)!


Left(or Top?): Delta 120mm @ 151cfm! / Right(or Bottom?): Xigmatek 120mm @ 99.63cfm!

I'm also getting better at mounting the heatsink too, This time It took less time to mount It, A flatblade screwdriver and a flashlight help a lot. Before the fan was above the heatsink, Now It's below the heatsink and I have a 220cfm that I may try on the next Xigmatek and yep that fan is also a Delta.

What do You guys think?
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Message 737583 - Posted: 12 Apr 2008, 0:46:25 UTC - in response to Message 737574.  

Ok I just took off the stock slow moving Xigmatek fan and replaced It with a mighty Delta fan(to heck with what Xigmatek says)!


Left(or Top?): Delta 120mm @ 151cfm! / Right(or Bottom?): Xigmatek 120mm @ 99.63cfm!

I'm also getting better at mounting the heatsink too, This time It took less time to mount It, A flatblade screwdriver and a flashlight help a lot. Before the fan was above the heatsink, Now It's below the heatsink and I have a 220cfm that I may try on the next Xigmatek and yep that fan is also a Delta.

What do You guys think?

Cool is the rule......ya gained a couple of degrees!!! That is a good thing....
Now push the vcore and see what it'll really do.....LOL.
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Message 737586 - Posted: 12 Apr 2008, 0:48:20 UTC - in response to Message 737583.  
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Ok I just took off the stock slow moving Xigmatek fan and replaced It with a mighty Delta fan(to heck with what Xigmatek says)!


Left(or Top?): Delta 120mm @ 151cfm! / Right(or Bottom?): Xigmatek 120mm @ 99.63cfm!

I'm also getting better at mounting the heatsink too, This time It took less time to mount It, A flatblade screwdriver and a flashlight help a lot. Before the fan was above the heatsink, Now It's below the heatsink and I have a 220cfm that I may try on the next Xigmatek and yep that fan is also a Delta.

What do You guys think?

Cool is the rule......ya gained a couple of degrees!!! That is a good thing....
Now push the vcore and see what it'll really do.....LOL.

It's already at 1.50v now and 3.30GHz too.

Edit: Just wait till PC2 gets online with a Xigmatek, I'm going to try the 220cfm monster in It and why not, The case is as noise resistant as the other two and It's the same size and weight as the 151cfm fan.
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Message 737603 - Posted: 12 Apr 2008, 1:14:22 UTC - in response to Message 737586.  

Ok I just took off the stock slow moving Xigmatek fan and replaced It with a mighty Delta fan(to heck with what Xigmatek says)!


Left(or Top?): Delta 120mm @ 151cfm! / Right(or Bottom?): Xigmatek 120mm @ 99.63cfm!

I'm also getting better at mounting the heatsink too, This time It took less time to mount It, A flatblade screwdriver and a flashlight help a lot. Before the fan was above the heatsink, Now It's below the heatsink and I have a 220cfm that I may try on the next Xigmatek and yep that fan is also a Delta.

What do You guys think?

Cool is the rule......ya gained a couple of degrees!!! That is a good thing....
Now push the vcore and see what it'll really do.....LOL.

It's already at 1.50v now and 3.30GHz too.

Edit: Just wait till PC2 gets online with a Xigmatek, I'm going to try the 220cfm monster in It and why not, The case is as noise resistant as the other two and It's the same size and weight as the 151cfm fan.


ill definatly be pullin this thread up should i decide to get as xigmatek. thx for the tutorial :D

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Message 737617 - Posted: 12 Apr 2008, 1:25:33 UTC - in response to Message 737586.  


I'm also getting better at mounting the heatsink too, This time It took less time to mount It, A flatblade screwdriver and a flashlight help a lot.


Ditto here when I remounted Thurston's KINGWIN last night. (Same exact design, easier availability in the US) Only I used a small 6" chisel to press the locks under the fan. Experience allowed me to press down on diagonal mount points at the same time, locked in much better.

Are we getting good at this, or what?


Now It's below the heatsink and I have a 220cfm that I may try on the next Xigmatek and yep that fan is also a Delta.


Same here fan underneath pointing skyward. The point should me stressed that with these "Direct Touch Heatpipe" heatsinks you are not allowed as much flexability with the mounting orientation, that the heatpipes must "cross the line" of cores as shown on the Arctic Silver mounting instructions. If you don't then the middle heatpipe alone does almost all the cooling. IMO.

Installation on a Core2 Duo would require rotating the HSF 1/4 turn so that the fan blows to the front or rear of your case. But we're talking mounting on a Core2 Quad, so be sure the fan points either to the top or bottom of your case.

I'm looking forward to a cool front blowing a bit later, so core temps should drop to upper 50s for most the night.

Congratulations Joker... you're now as cool as a cucumber!!!
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Message 737644 - Posted: 12 Apr 2008, 2:28:50 UTC - in response to Message 737603.  
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Ok I just took off the stock slow moving Xigmatek fan and replaced It with a mighty Delta fan(to heck with what Xigmatek says)!


Left(or Top?): Delta 120mm @ 151cfm! / Right(or Bottom?): Xigmatek 120mm @ 99.63cfm!

I'm also getting better at mounting the heatsink too, This time It took less time to mount It, A flatblade screwdriver and a flashlight help a lot. Before the fan was above the heatsink, Now It's below the heatsink and I have a 220cfm that I may try on the next Xigmatek and yep that fan is also a Delta.

What do You guys think?

Cool is the rule......ya gained a couple of degrees!!! That is a good thing....
Now push the vcore and see what it'll really do.....LOL.

It's already at 1.50v now and 3.30GHz too.

Edit: Just wait till PC2 gets online with a Xigmatek, I'm going to try the 220cfm monster in It and why not, The case is as noise resistant as the other two and It's the same size and weight as the 151cfm fan.


ill defiantly be pullin this thread up should i decide to get as xigmatek. thx for the tutorial :D

You're quite welcome. :)
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Message 737648 - Posted: 12 Apr 2008, 2:41:36 UTC - in response to Message 737617.  


I'm also getting better at mounting the heatsink too, This time It took less time to mount It, A flatblade screwdriver and a flashlight help a lot.


Ditto here when I remounted Thurston's KINGWIN last night. (Same exact design, easier availability in the US) Only I used a small 6" chisel to press the locks under the fan. Experience allowed me to press down on diagonal mount points at the same time, locked in much better.

Are we getting good at this, or what?


Now It's below the heatsink and I have a 220cfm that I may try on the next Xigmatek and yep that fan is also a Delta.


Same here fan underneath pointing skyward. The point should me stressed that with these "Direct Touch Heatpipe" heatsinks you are not allowed as much flexability with the mounting orientation, that the heatpipes must "cross the line" of cores as shown on the Arctic Silver mounting instructions. If you don't then the middle heatpipe alone does almost all the cooling. IMO.

Installation on a Core2 Duo would require rotating the HSF 1/4 turn so that the fan blows to the front or rear of your case. But we're talking mounting on a Core2 Quad, so be sure the fan points either to the top or bottom of your case.

I'm looking forward to a cool front blowing a bit later, so core temps should drop to upper 50s for most the night.

Congratulations Joker... you're now as cool as a cucumber!!!

Thanks! :) Yeah the 1st time I had the fan above the heatsink and the system temp was 19C and with the fan mounted below the temp is at 27C, even now when It's cooler, In both instances the fan was pointing up, Maybe tomorrow I'll pull It out and put the fan on top and of course that means the heatsinks fan mounts will face up instead of down, But It's not so hard, I've been using the needle nose pliers to pinch the rubber feet together at the widest point where the rubber hooks on to the inner side fans flange to remove them, works pretty good too. Thanks to the way I insulated the case, the 151cfm fan is almost as quiet as the 99.63cfm fan is, I might hear the 220cfm fan some though, But that fan is for later with PC2 and Its Q6600 B3 cpu.
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Message 737665 - Posted: 12 Apr 2008, 3:57:54 UTC

Am I the only person that seems to have problem with Speedfan. I've dumped it in the past because of inaccurate readings, but thought I would give it another go while reading his thread. But no it still saying impossible things.
On cpu idle it says the core temps are 17C, thats 4.5C below ambient. It also says th +12V line is at 0.6V.

PCWizard seems to read approx correctly.

Confused as ever.

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Message 737667 - Posted: 12 Apr 2008, 4:13:25 UTC - in response to Message 737665.  

Am I the only person that seems to have problem with Speedfan. I've dumped it in the past because of inaccurate readings, but thought I would give it another go while reading his thread. But no it still saying impossible things.
On cpu idle it says the core temps are 17C, thats 4.5C below ambient. It also says th +12V line is at 0.6V.

PCWizard seems to read approx correctly.

Confused as ever.

Andy


I'll be the first to take a swing....

Check/set the temp offsets are 15c,

Configure->Advanced
Chip? "INTEL CORE at $0 on ISA"
Temperature x offset 15

be sure to "remember it" for each core

Beyond that, the program is too confusing for me.

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Message 737841 - Posted: 12 Apr 2008, 13:24:12 UTC - in response to Message 737665.  

Am I the only person that seems to have problem with Speedfan. I've dumped it in the past because of inaccurate readings, but thought I would give it another go while reading his thread. But no it still saying impossible things.
On cpu idle it says the core temps are 17C, thats 4.5C below ambient. It also says th +12V line is at 0.6V.

PCWizard seems to read approx correctly.

Confused as ever.

Andy


Andy, try Core Temp. I have it running on 4 of my 5 quads and like it (5th quad is Linux right now). I like the logging feature. It alows you to check the temps going back as long as you don't delete the log file.
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Message 738081 - Posted: 12 Apr 2008, 22:23:39 UTC - in response to Message 737644.  

Ok I just took off the stock slow moving Xigmatek fan and replaced It with a mighty Delta fan(to heck with what Xigmatek says)!

I'm also getting better at mounting the heatsink too, This time It took less time to mount It, A flatblade screwdriver and a flashlight help a lot. Before the fan was above the heatsink, Now It's below the heatsink and I have a 220cfm that I may try on the next Xigmatek and yep that fan is also a Delta.


Xigmatek 120mm @ 99.63cfm!

What do You guys think?

Cool is the rule......ya gained a couple of degrees!!! That is a good thing....
Now push the vcore and see what it'll really do.....LOL.

It's already at 1.50v now and 3.30GHz too.

Edit: Just wait till PC2 gets online with a Xigmatek, I'm going to try the 220cfm monster in It and why not, The case is as noise resistant as the other two and It's the same size and weight as the 151cfm fan.


ill defiantly be pullin this thread up should i decide to get as xigmatek. thx for the tutorial :D

You're quite welcome. :)

It seems I have a 129cfm AFB1212VHE on My Xigmatek instead of the AFB1212SHE(151cfm), I also may convert these Xigmateks to use a mounting plate as the heatsinks are touchy when changing a fan(with the PC off), I was trying to add an air deflector that came with the xigmatek and two of the four plastic pins came up and yep the PC shut down instantly, then I found the heatsinks plastic pins were spread out too much and I had trouble mounting the heatsink until I was able to compress those two pins with some needle nose pliers, And all is well now. I have a pair of AFB1212SHE fans and the 220cfm is a TFB1212GHE, But two of them need cleaning as their too dirty, I cleaned one AFB1212SHE fan with some warm water in the sink and It's drying now.

Left: Delta 120mm @ 129cfm and It's not a 151cfm fan. :(
Middle: Just after startup w/the fan on top
Right: Is with the fan on Top.

The fan is now on top of the heatsink of course, I think It cools the northbridge(system) a bit better this way
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Message 740082 - Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 22:06:47 UTC - in response to Message 738081.  

I also may convert these Xigmateks to use a mounting plate as the heatsinks are touchy when changing a fan(with the PC off), I was trying to add an air deflector that came with the xigmatek and two of the four plastic pins came up and yep the PC shut down instantly, then I found the heatsinks plastic pins were spread out too much and I had trouble mounting the heatsink until I was able to compress those two pins with some needle nose pliers,


DejaVu...

You know that I opted to put the KingWin equivalent (to Jokers Xigmatek) model HSF on Thurston a little over a week. I was bumping the OC ~6% and didn't want to pull the mobo to mount the backplate for a Thermatrite Ultra 120 Extreme I had available. To make a long story short, I should have pulled the mobo and used the Thermalrite. This morning I saw the core temps rising, suspended BOINC, then less than 1 minute later heard the pushpin mounts on the top of the KingWin HSF 'pop' loose. I still like the KingWin DHT design & coolong capacity but, like Joker is contemplating, think these models need the backplate for stability/endurance.

Three hours later, Thurston has had a "whole body transplant" moved from the Antec P180 case to a CoolerMaster CM 690 case I picked up last week for $50 (clearance rack) when I was in Directron. I really like the flexability of this case, (has a cutout on the mounting tray behind the CPU mount for a fan to cool the mobo from behind), mesh top with twin mounts for fans uo to 120mm, side intake w/fan to feed the HSF with cool 'outside' air.

FYI: Lovey moved into the vacated Antec case for now, so she is no longer "naked" ( though she does feel a bit like a "Hermit Crab".

Thurston was down for 3 hours beachse after first attempt, I had to re-orient the Thermalrite HSF to point toward the back of the case (different from the HDT KingWin orientation), Lovey went down for 4 hours and is now with the "stock" HSF because of her minimal OC. "Don't worry, man, "She's cool".

@Joker - Don't think twice... use a backplate with your Xigmatek HSFs, we've both had problems with the pushpin mounts. I don't know how to mount the fan after the HS is installed, but am sure that you will figure it out and let us know.

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Message 740124 - Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 22:53:34 UTC - in response to Message 740082.  

I also may convert these Xigmateks to use a mounting plate as the heatsinks are touchy when changing a fan(with the PC off), I was trying to add an air deflector that came with the xigmatek and two of the four plastic pins came up and yep the PC shut down instantly, then I found the heatsinks plastic pins were spread out too much and I had trouble mounting the heatsink until I was able to compress those two pins with some needle nose pliers,


DejaVu...

You know that I opted to put the KingWin equivalent (to Jokers Xigmatek) model HSF on Thurston a little over a week. I was bumping the OC ~6% and didn't want to pull the mobo to mount the backplate for a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme I had available. To make a long story short, I should have pulled the mobo and used the Thermalright. This morning I saw the core temps rising, suspended BOINC, then less than 1 minute later heard the pushpin mounts on the top of the KingWin HSF 'pop' loose. I still like the KingWin HDT design & cooling capacity but, like Joker is contemplating, think these models need the backplate for stability/endurance.

Three hours later, Thurston has had a "whole body transplant" moved from the Antec P180 case to a CoolerMaster CM 690 case I picked up last week for $50 (clearance rack) when I was in Directron. I really like the flexability of this case, (has a cutout on the mounting tray behind the CPU mount for a fan to cool the mobo from behind), mesh top with twin mounts for fans up to 120mm, side intake w/fan to feed the HSF with cool 'outside' air.

FYI: Lovey moved into the vacated Antec case for now, so she is no longer "naked" ( though she does feel a bit like a "Hermit Crab".

Thurston was down for 3 hours beached after first attempt, I had to re-orient the Thermalright HSF to point toward the back of the case (different from the HDT KingWin orientation), Lovey went down for 4 hours and is now with the "stock" HSF because of her minimal OC. "Don't worry, man, "She's cool".

@Joker - Don't think twice... use a backplate with your Xigmatek HSFs, we've both had problems with the pushpin mounts. I don't know how to mount the fan after the HS is installed, but am sure that you will figure it out and let us know.

Regards,
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Backplate, screws, lot o washers(both fiber and metal and/or plastic), nuts and wingnuts is My guess. I've got the backplates from some burned up Vigor Gaming Monsoon II heatsinks and from a used Ultra ChillTEC too, But the ChillTEC bolts might not fit under the fan, Of course I do have the 939 and AM2 ChillTEC backplates and they could be adapted after the bolts are removed or cutoff with a dremel tool.

I hear ya JD, I've managed to get the 1st Xigmatek mounted, But I'm not willing to touch It, As to the other two I'd have to get all of what I mentioned and once modded theirs no turning back I think. Xigmatek made a good heatsink and then screwed It up by not using a backplate and screws, The tips are prone to being spread out(Like one does when spreading the gap between the thumb and the finger next to It) and I had that happen to Me twice and the black pin that You push down on almost got lost as It flew off like a spring under tension, I found It near the 7800GTX video card and reassembled the pin and so far It's done fine with a 129cfm Delta 120x38mm fan, I found the Xigmatek fan is nice and thin and doesn't cool quite as well as the slightly faster fan, But Hey we're talkin Delta here, The stock fan is nice and would do for the front of the case though, But not for an overclocked quad really, Although It'll do until a Delta is installed in the stock fans location.

The Xigmateks/Kingwin mounting pins have to be all the way down so that the legs have only what looks like a 1/16" thick plastic washer between the LGA775 legs and the motherboard, Otherwise the pins won't stay in for long and yeah It's a fragile mount, That's why I don't touch It once the fan is on there. As all It takes is for one side to pop loose and the motherboard shuts down and yes that has happened to Me, But It didn't hurt anything at least. :D

My thoughts on using a backing plate with either the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 or the Kingwin RVT-12025(Same heatsink really), The nut holding the plate and screws to the motherboard should have a thin fiber washer(one per corner) between the nut and the motherboard with regular washers above the Xigmatek/Kingwin LGA775 heatsink legs and below the wingnuts. The screw size could be 6-32 or 4-40 (x 1"?) as I don't know what will fit right now and I'd have to buy some and experiment before going farther.

There's also the OCZ Vendetta 2(It's a breathed on HDT heatsink with a 120mm fan), But so far It's still too new as It hasn't arrived in the channel yet as I did a Google search and found a few places(None that I've really heard of, Although PC Connection does get Googles mention at $41.26 or so and It's out of stock there too, Surprise, Surprise), But none had It yet or others never heard of It(strange).
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There's also the OCZ Vendetta 2(It's a breathed on HDT heatsink with a 120mm fan), But so far It's still too new as It hasn't arrived in the channel yet as I did a Google search and found a few places(None that I've really heard of, Although PC Connection does get Googles mention at $41.26 or so and It's out of stock there too, Surprise, Surprise), But none had It yet or others never heard of It(strange).


Microcenter online appears to have it, 49.99 + shipping tho.

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There's also the OCZ Vendetta 2(It's a breathed on HDT heatsink with a 120mm fan), But so far It's still too new as It hasn't arrived in the channel yet as I did a Google search and found a few places(None that I've really heard of, Although PC Connection does get Googles mention at $41.26 or so and It's out of stock there too, Surprise, Surprise), But none had It yet or others never heard of It(strange).


Microcenter online appears to have it, 49.99 + shipping tho.

Ok I found It at NCIXUS($40.97US) and NCIX($49.99CAN) by going to OCZ's website and this doesn't include shipping either, Currently this heatsink wears the crown.

Note: This heatsink is a special order so far from NCIX and NCIXUS.
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