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Message 28631 - Posted: 21 Sep 2004, 12:40:35 UTC

I started LHC on one computer and set the preferences for 1 day download, that was two days ago. This morning I noticed that I was running out of work for SETI which I keep set for 4 days, after checking I found my SETI preferences had been changed to 1 day! If you start another Boinc program, check and make sure that it doesn't change your SETI preferences.
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Message 28633 - Posted: 21 Sep 2004, 13:08:20 UTC - in response to Message 28631.  

> I started LHC on one computer and set the preferences for 1 day download, that
> was two days ago. This morning I noticed that I was running out of work for
> SETI which I keep set for 4 days, after checking I found my SETI preferences
> had been changed to 1 day! If you start another Boinc program, check and make
> sure that it doesn't change your SETI preferences.

The preferences are global. If you read up on them in the companion I have for those pages it explains that. If you change settings in LHC, your commputer will upload them to SETI@Home and/or any other BOINC project you belong to.

The only way to get around this is to have multiple computers with each only attached to one project, or to use the resource shares so that you get the desired effect.

For example, I have 6 computers and have them attached to the following projects:

Climate Prediction.net (cp.net)
LHC@Home
Pirates/Einstein@Home
Predictor@Home
SETI@Home

I have resource share set to 100 for all projects.

At this time I have the following assignments:
24.69% - Climate Prediction.net (cp.net)
24.69% - LHC@Home
24.69% - Pirates/Einstein@Home
01.23% - Predictor@Home
24.69% - SETI@Home

because Predictor@Home does not have any schedulers up. As soon as they do, I should goto 20% across the board. When LHC@Home was in a two day crunch I upped them to 1,000 and that got them 75% of my time allocations.

Does this help?

I am constantly adding material to the documentation (though I have Dr. Appt. today so I won't be getting as much done) ...

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Message 28634 - Posted: 21 Sep 2004, 13:10:51 UTC

Hi,
You are quite right! About a week ago I changed mine to something greater than 1 so that I could just get a good batch of WUs to crunch (I don't remember the value). I just checked it again and sure enough, it was reset to 1 days! When set that low I get 1 or 2 WUs. I leave my network connection disabled because I use a dial-up modem connection and BOINC is less than stellar in dial-up support. WUs are stopped during the upload process and they don't resume. I have to shut down and re-start BOINC to get them to run again. If I left the network connection enabled my PC would be sitting here doing nothing after an upload. Thanks for pointing this out, Stephen.

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Message 28635 - Posted: 21 Sep 2004, 13:14:56 UTC
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I think whatever Project you make the last preference changes to will override all the other Projects and change them too. So if it does change your seti preferences & you change them back then that will also change the other Projects to whatever you set the Seti Preferences to.

Thats how people end up with too many work units at one time that they can't run out before the deadlines.

The preferences are screwy at best, I just set my preferences for work to keep on disc to 0.1 for Seti because I wanted to test something on one computer. So what does it do, it gives me 20 WU's at once, I didn't want 20 freaking WU's because I'm not into running Seti right now as I'm mainly just running CPDN WU's & I don't want to run all them out either. All I wanted was 1 or 2 WU's so now I'll have to dump the ones I don't want to run...You would think with a setting that low I wouldn't get 20 at a time...
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Message 28637 - Posted: 21 Sep 2004, 13:22:59 UTC

I have just tried an experiment. Since SETI@Home has just the one value for connecting to the network in X number of days, and CPDN has 2 values (min, max) for keeping enough work for between X and X number of days, I just made all values the same and all seems well, so far. I have to go to work right now so I will check this when I get home and post my results.

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Message 28822 - Posted: 22 Sep 2004, 1:43:18 UTC - in response to Message 28637.  

> I have just tried an experiment. Since SETI@Home has just the one value for
> connecting to the network in X number of days, and CPDN has 2 values (min,
> max) for keeping enough work for between X and X number of days, I just made
> all values the same and all seems well, so far. I have to go to work right
> now so I will check this when I get home and post my results.
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> L8R....
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Ok, I'm home from work. I started the PC, dialed into the Internet and updated BOINC for both SETI@Home and CPDN. The setting values I changed, as stated above, remained the same. No changes whatsoever. Doing this may have one drawback: You won't be able to have a different number of WUs per project.

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Message 28980 - Posted: 22 Sep 2004, 13:06:57 UTC

I set them all to 4 days, now I have more LHC than I can process in the time allocated. Climate doesn't send too many though.
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Message 29180 - Posted: 23 Sep 2004, 0:55:00 UTC - in response to Message 28980.  

> I set them all to 4 days, now I have more LHC than I can process in the time
> allocated. Climate doesn't send too many though.
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I have 3 CPDN WUs and about 30 or so SETI@Home. Two of the CPDN are being run, the third hasn't started yet and I have had it for about 4 or 5 days now. I think I'm going to scale back to 4 or 5 days. Well, maybe.... I read that the scheduler is, once again, down. I would rather have enough WUs for SETI to last about a week, just in case. Sometimes it takes them a few days to find the problem and fix it. Then there's the crunch of everyone trying to access the servers at the same time, after it does get fixed. With dial-up, I'd rather wait. See ya, Stephen....

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