How do I download a unit to a disk, run the unit on a nonnetwork computer, then upload unit when done?

vino

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How do I download a unit to a disk, run the unit on a nonnetwork computer, then upload unit when done?

vino

It is a very painful proceedure, and as far as I know, everyone that has tried has given up rather quickly. BOINC is not designed that way.

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BOINC WIKI

See Internet Access

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I have a computer that only has access to the internet at very random times. Is there any way to set it to download more WUs so it stays busy?

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I have a computer that only has access to the internet at very random times. Is there any way to set it to download more WUs so it stays busy?

Increase your WU cache. Account -> Computing Preferences -> Maintain enough work for an additional X days.

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I have a computer that only has access to the internet at very random times. Is there any way to set it to download more WUs so it stays busy?

Increase your WU cache. Account -> Computing Preferences -> Maintain enough work for an additional X days.

Thanks, this will make life much easier for me.

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I have a computer that only has access to the internet at very random times. Is there any way to set it to download more WUs so it stays busy?

Increase your WU cache. Account -> Computing Preferences -> Maintain enough work for an additional X days.

Thanks, this will make life much easier for me.

If you are not connected for long periods, please use Connect every X days instead of Maintain enough work for an additional X days. BOINC uses the information in Connect every X days to attempt to meet deadlines. The information in Maintan enough work for an additional X days is NOT used to attempt to meet deadlines.

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BOINC WIKI

How do I download a unit to a disk, run the unit on a nonnetwork computer, then upload unit when done?

vino

Give up, never,,,, I win or I lose never give up.

I have been tring to use a USB jump drive, next I will try to use a 40 pin SATA drive, and switch it out after each work unitis done.

Sofar no luck with the USB.

vino

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Is there a way to download BOINC, ans seti on a USB jump drive, that I can run it on different pc without a network?

vino

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Is there a way to download BOINC, ans seti on a USB jump drive, that I can run it on different pc without a network?

vino

Sure, the directions are similar to what I posted here. You'll need to make sure that you can transfer the USB stick to a system that does have internet connection, and you'll need to make sure that the BOINC on the USB stick doesn't interfere with a copy of BOINC running on the system with the internet by manually exiting and launching BOINC from the USB. Once finished, you exit the BOINC on the USB stick and re-launch BOINC from the hard drive on the system with internet while you transfer the USB back to the system without internet.

It's possible, but highly time consuming.

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I found a way that is very easy to do,,

From the network PC, download BOINC on a USB jump drive, install BOINC on that USB jump drive (5.8 meg, 160 files).
Take that USB jump drive to the nonnetwork PC (DO NOT INSTALL BOINC TO THAT PC) just run BOINC from that USB jump drive, when BOINC is ready for the next upload/download, EXIT BOINC and saftely remove the USB jump drive, and go back to the network PC, run BOINC from the USB jumpdrive (upload/download new work units), (EXIT BOINC) and back to nonnetwork PC, start over.


vino

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I found a way that is very easy to do,,

From the network PC, download BOINC on a USB jump drive, install BOINC on that USB jump drive (5.8 meg, 160 files).
Take that USB jump drive to the nonnetwork PC (DO NOT INSTALL BOINC TO THAT PC) just run BOINC from that USB jump drive, when BOINC is ready for the next upload/download, EXIT BOINC and saftely remove the USB jump drive, and go back to the network PC, run BOINC from the USB jumpdrive (upload/download new work units), (EXIT BOINC) and back to nonnetwork PC, start over.


vino

That is one way to do that, but remember that USB drives have a limited write life, meaning that after so many writes to the drive, the sectors will start failing. Since BOINC writes updates to the disk every minute, BOINC is very disk intensive and can quickly destroy a USB drive in a matter of months.

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I found a way that is very easy to do,,

From the network PC, download BOINC on a USB jump drive, install BOINC on that USB jump drive (5.8 meg, 160 files).
Take that USB jump drive to the nonnetwork PC (DO NOT INSTALL BOINC TO THAT PC) just run BOINC from that USB jump drive, when BOINC is ready for the next upload/download, EXIT BOINC and saftely remove the USB jump drive, and go back to the network PC, run BOINC from the USB jumpdrive (upload/download new work units), (EXIT BOINC) and back to nonnetwork PC, start over.


vino

That is one way to do that, but remember that USB drives have a limited write life, meaning that after so many writes to the drive, the sectors will start failing. Since BOINC writes updates to the disk every minute, BOINC is very disk intensive and can quickly destroy a USB drive in a matter of months.

If you ask me i think you`d be better using a compactflash drive instead of USB Stick for the same purpose,benefits is it`s hot swapable and doesn`t have the limit on writes life that a USB stick does.

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Just trying to catch UP!

I found a way that is very easy to do,,

From the network PC, download BOINC on a USB jump drive, install BOINC on that USB jump drive (5.8 meg, 160 files).
Take that USB jump drive to the nonnetwork PC (DO NOT INSTALL BOINC TO THAT PC) just run BOINC from that USB jump drive, when BOINC is ready for the next upload/download, EXIT BOINC and saftely remove the USB jump drive, and go back to the network PC, run BOINC from the USB jumpdrive (upload/download new work units), (EXIT BOINC) and back to nonnetwork PC, start over.


vino

That is one way to do that, but remember that USB drives have a limited write life, meaning that after so many writes to the drive, the sectors will start failing. Since BOINC writes updates to the disk every minute, BOINC is very disk intensive and can quickly destroy a USB drive in a matter of months.

If you ask me i think you`d be better using a compactflash drive instead of USB Stick for the same purpose,benefits is it`s hot swapable and doesn`t have the limit on writes life that a USB stick does.

USB sticks and CF use the same technology for memory. Each of them has the same limit on writes. However, the technology used for this memory is improving all of the time, and the write limits are improving. Not too many years ago, this sort of memory had about 1000 writes. Now it is up to about 100K writes.

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BOINC WIKI

I found a way that is very easy to do,,

From the network PC, download BOINC on a USB jump drive, install BOINC on that USB jump drive (5.8 meg, 160 files).
Take that USB jump drive to the nonnetwork PC (DO NOT INSTALL BOINC TO THAT PC) just run BOINC from that USB jump drive, when BOINC is ready for the next upload/download, EXIT BOINC and saftely remove the USB jump drive, and go back to the network PC, run BOINC from the USB jumpdrive (upload/download new work units), (EXIT BOINC) and back to nonnetwork PC, start over.


vino

That is one way to do that, but remember that USB drives have a limited write life, meaning that after so many writes to the drive, the sectors will start failing. Since BOINC writes updates to the disk every minute, BOINC is very disk intensive and can quickly destroy a USB drive in a matter of months.

If you ask me i think you`d be better using a compactflash drive instead of USB Stick for the same purpose,benefits is it`s hot swapable and doesn`t have the limit on writes life that a USB stick does.

USB sticks and CF use the same technology for memory. Each of them has the same limit on writes. However, the technology used for this memory is improving all of the time, and the write limits are improving. Not too many years ago, this sort of memory had about 1000 writes. Now it is up to about 100K writes.

Maybe the answer then is to change the preferences in BOINC so that it doesn`t write every 60secs then,also the write threshold on compactflash has got to be higher than a USB stick because alot of people are dumping hardrives in favour of compactflash (in AmigaLand anyway)even though per MB compactflash is 2x more expensive.

Last i checked a 16GB CompactFlash card wouldn`t leave you much change out of £200

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Just trying to catch UP!

Maybe the answer then is to change the preferences in BOINC so that it doesn`t write every 60secs then,

That may help. JM7 can correct me, but I thought BOINC still wrote to the disk for it's XML files while the "write every" preference is for the science app. I'm not entirely certain about that though.

also the write threshold on compactflash has got to be higher than a USB stick because alot of people are dumping hardrives in favour of compactflash (in AmigaLand anyway)even though per MB compactflash is 2x more expensive.

Last i checked a 16GB CompactFlash card wouldn`t leave you much change out of £200

CompactFlash and USB drives use the same memory technology (they both use NAND memory chips). Most people who prefer them do so because they use very little electricity compared to traditional hard drives. See this Wikipedia entry for more information about Flash memory.

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Maybe the answer then is to change the preferences in BOINC so that it doesn`t write every 60secs then,

That may help. JM7 can correct me, but I thought BOINC still wrote to the disk for it's XML files while the "write every" preference is for the science app. I'm not entirely certain about that though.

also the write threshold on compactflash has got to be higher than a USB stick because alot of people are dumping hardrives in favour of compactflash (in AmigaLand anyway)even though per MB compactflash is 2x more expensive.

Last i checked a 16GB CompactFlash card wouldn`t leave you much change out of £200

CompactFlash and USB drives use the same memory technology (they both use NAND memory chips). Most people who prefer them do so because they use very little electricity compared to traditional hard drives. See this Wikipedia entry for more information about Flash memory.

@OzzFan

Thanks for the link :-)

Even @ a possible 1,000,000 write cycles it would be along time before you`d wear out a 4GB Card. I`d use this method to transfer BOINC & Workunit between
a net enabled comp to non net enabled comp.

I do need some advice though....i`m considering picking up a second hand Intel Centrino 1.5GHZ laptop as another system for crunching SETI data and just wondered if anyone has this processor installed and could tell me what it roughly runs like. is it a decent chip....desktops i know about but laptops/notebooks not to sure on.

Thanks in Advance for answering my question.

:-)

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Just trying to catch UP!

I do need some advice though....i`m considering picking up a second hand Intel Centrino 1.5GHZ laptop as another system for crunching SETI data and just wondered if anyone has this processor installed and could tell me what it roughly runs like. is it a decent chip....desktops i know about but laptops/notebooks not to sure on.

The Intel Centrino is actually a brand and not a specific processor. Any laptop or notebook that has an Intel chipset, and Intel processor and an Intel wireless chip can be branded "Centrino".

That being said, its hard to be certain if the notebook you're being offered has a decent CPU chip or not. If its an Intel Celeron, it would only be good for menial tasks. If its an Intel Pentium M, those are decent CPUs (my notebook is an Intel Pentium M 1.8GHz with the Centrino brand). If its an Intel Core or Intel Core 2 CPU, those are excellent crunching chips.

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I do need some advice though....i`m considering picking up a second hand Intel Centrino 1.5GHZ laptop as another system for crunching SETI data and just wondered if anyone has this processor installed and could tell me what it roughly runs like. is it a decent chip....desktops i know about but laptops/notebooks not to sure on.

The Intel Centrino is actually a brand and not a specific processor. Any laptop or notebook that has an Intel chipset, and Intel processor and an Intel wireless chip can be branded "Centrino".

That being said, its hard to be certain if the notebook you're being offered has a decent CPU chip or not. If its an Intel Celeron, it would only be good for menial tasks. If its an Intel Pentium M, those are decent CPUs (my notebook is an Intel Pentium M 1.8GHz with the Centrino brand). If its an Intel Core or Intel Core 2 CPU, those are excellent crunching chips.

@OzzFan,

Just a Pentium M and that`s still better than what i`m using @ the moment ...1.5GHZ Via Esther,guess it`s explains why i complete a workunit every 1.05days.

I`d love a quad core Processor but that`ll have to wait a while,anyway cheers for the sound advice :-)

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Just trying to catch UP!

Maybe the answer then is to change the preferences in BOINC so that it doesn`t write every 60secs then,

That may help. JM7 can correct me, but I thought BOINC still wrote to the disk for it's XML files while the "write every" preference is for the science app. I'm not entirely certain about that though.

The write to disk option is for the application. It can use the setting here, but it doesn't need to. Some applications follow the write to disk setting, others just follow their own timing.

BOINC itself writes to disk every second. Multiple times a second even, to a file called client_state_next, before transferring the data therein to client_state.xml, after that has backed itself up to client_state_prev.xml

Try running Filemon and Diskmon of SysInternals to see this happening in real time. Awesome. :-)

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