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Message 690235 - Posted: 10 Dec 2007, 1:36:49 UTC - in response to Message 690232.  

He believes the years 2008 through 2019 are likely to be the most horrendous so far in U.S. history.

More accurately, 2008 - 2012... In 2019 we won't be here... ;)
It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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Message 690250 - Posted: 10 Dec 2007, 3:12:19 UTC - in response to Message 690235.  

He believes the years 2008 through 2019 are likely to be the most horrendous so far in U.S. history.

More accurately, 2008 - 2012... In 2019 we won't be here... ;)


So I take it you are one of the folks who believe the Mayan Calendar actually states that the world will end in December of 2012?

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Message 690270 - Posted: 10 Dec 2007, 4:33:15 UTC - in response to Message 690250.  

He believes the years 2008 through 2019 are likely to be the most horrendous so far in U.S. history.

More accurately, 2008 - 2012... In 2019 we won't be here... ;)


So I take it you are one of the folks who believe the Mayan Calendar actually states that the world will end in December of 2012?



Sooner or Later someone will predict the end, and they will be right!
So who will care if they are right if we all are gone......
Live every day and don't worry if we are all gone 2012 2019 whatever...

There is Absolutely nothing we can do about it....
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Message 690276 - Posted: 10 Dec 2007, 4:46:15 UTC - in response to Message 690270.  

He believes the years 2008 through 2019 are likely to be the most horrendous so far in U.S. history.

More accurately, 2008 - 2012... In 2019 we won't be here... ;)


So I take it you are one of the folks who believe the Mayan Calendar actually states that the world will end in December of 2012?



Sooner or Later someone will predict the end, and they will be right!
So who will care if they are right if we all are gone......
Live every day and don't worry if we are all gone 2012 2019 whatever...

There is Absolutely nothing we can do about it....
IMHO


Well said, Tim!!! :-)
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Message 690284 - Posted: 10 Dec 2007, 5:34:43 UTC - in response to Message 690235.  

More accurately, 2008 - 2012... In 2019 we won't be here... ;)


Oh, that's gonna whiz off my credit card company BIG time.
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Message 690291 - Posted: 10 Dec 2007, 6:21:43 UTC - in response to Message 690276.  

He believes the years 2008 through 2019 are likely to be the most horrendous so far in U.S. history.

More accurately, 2008 - 2012... In 2019 we won't be here... ;)


So I take it you are one of the folks who believe the Mayan Calendar actually states that the world will end in December of 2012?



Sooner or Later someone will predict the end, and they will be right!
So who will care if they are right if we all are gone......
Live every day and don't worry if we are all gone 2012 2019 whatever...

There is Absolutely nothing we can do about it....
IMHO


Well said, Tim!!! :-)

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Message 690479 - Posted: 11 Dec 2007, 0:18:00 UTC - in response to Message 690276.  
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He believes the years 2008 through 2019 are likely to be the most horrendous so far in U.S. history.

More accurately, 2008 - 2012... In 2019 we won't be here... ;)


So I take it you are one of the folks who believe the Mayan Calendar actually states that the world will end in December of 2012?



Sooner or Later someone will predict the end, and they will be right!
So who will care if they are right if we all are gone......
Live every day and don't worry if we are all gone 2012 2019 whatever...

There is Absolutely nothing we can do about it....
IMHO


Well said, Tim!!! :-)


I have read that 2012 will be the end on civilization. They relate it to the Mayan Calender.

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Message 690484 - Posted: 11 Dec 2007, 0:26:41 UTC - in response to Message 690479.  

He believes the years 2008 through 2019 are likely to be the most horrendous so far in U.S. history.

More accurately, 2008 - 2012... In 2019 we won't be here... ;)


So I take it you are one of the folks who believe the Mayan Calendar actually states that the world will end in December of 2012?



Sooner or Later someone will predict the end, and they will be right!
So who will care if they are right if we all are gone......
Live every day and don't worry if we are all gone 2012 2019 whatever...

There is Absolutely nothing we can do about it....
IMHO


Well said, Tim!!! :-)


I have read that 2012 will be the end on civilization. They relate it to the Mayan Calender.




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Message 690492 - Posted: 11 Dec 2007, 0:41:10 UTC - in response to Message 690479.  
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I have read that 2012 will be the end on civilization. They relate it to the Mayan Calender.

The Mayan Calendar predicts the end of an age, not necessarily the end of the world... Nobody has been given the autority to accurately predict the end of the world, however, the conditions are more than ripe for that too... ;)
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Message 690495 - Posted: 11 Dec 2007, 0:54:21 UTC - in response to Message 690492.  

I have read that 2012 will be the end on civilization. They relate it to the Mayan Calender.

The Mayan Calendar predicts the end of an age, not necessarily the end of the world... Nobody has been given the autority to accurately predict the end of the world, however, the conditions are more than ripe for that too... ;)



Here is one persons view of 2012

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Message 690496 - Posted: 11 Dec 2007, 0:57:09 UTC
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Does Maya calendar predict 2012 apocalypse?

By G. Jeffrey MacDonald, Special to USA TODAY

With humanity coming up fast on 2012, publishers are helping readers gear up and count down to this mysterious — some even call it apocalyptic — date that ancient Mayan societies were anticipating thousands of years ago.

Since November, at least three new books on 2012 have arrived in mainstream bookstores. A fourth is due this fall. Each arrives in the wake of the 2006 success of 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl, which has been selling thousands of copies a month since its release in May and counts more than 40,000 in print. The books also build on popular interest in the Maya, fueled in part by Mel Gibson's December 2006 film about Mayan civilization, Apocalpyto.

Authors disagree about what humankind should expect on Dec. 21, 2012, when the Maya's "Long Count" calendar marks the end of a 5,126-year era.

Journalist Lawrence Joseph forecasts widespread catastrophe in Apocalypse 2012: A Scientific Investigation Into Civilization's End. Spiritual healer Andrew Smith predicts a restoration of a "true balance between Divine Feminine and Masculine" in The Revolution of 2012: Vol. 1, The Preparation. In 2012, Daniel Pinchbeck anticipates a "change in the nature of consciousness," assisted by indigenous insights and psychedelic drug use.

The buildup to 2012 echoes excitement and fear expressed on the eve of the new millennium, popularly known as Y2K, though on a smaller scale, says Lynn Garrett, senior religion editor at Publishers Weekly. She says publishers seem to be courting readers who believe humanity is creating its own ecological disasters and desperately needs ancient indigenous wisdom.

The convergence I see here is the apocalyptic expectations, if you will, along with the fact that the environment is in the front of many people's minds these days," Garrett says. "Part of the appeal of these earth religions is that notion that we need to reconnect with the Earth in order to save ourselves."

But scholars are bristling at attempts to link the ancient Maya with trends in contemporary spirituality. Maya civilization, known for advanced writing, mathematics and astronomy, flourished for centuries in Mesoamerica, especially between A.D. 300 and 900. Its Long Count calendar, which was discontinued under Spanish colonization, tracks more than 5,000 years, then resets at year zero.

"For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies in Crystal River, Fla. To render Dec. 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."

Part of the 2012 mystique stems from the stars. On the winter solstice in 2012, the sun will be aligned with the center of the Milky Way for the first time in about 26,000 years. This means that "whatever energy typically streams to Earth from the center of the Milky Way will indeed be disrupted on 12/21/12 at 11:11 p.m. Universal Time," Joseph writes.

But scholars doubt the ancient Maya extrapolated great meaning from anticipating the alignment — if they were even aware of what the configuration would be.

Astronomers generally agree that "it would be impossible the Maya themselves would have known that," says Susan Milbrath, a Maya archaeoastronomer and a curator at the Florida Museum of Natural History. What's more, she says, "we have no record or knowledge that they would think the world would come to an end at that point."

University of Florida anthropologist Susan Gillespie says the 2012 phenomenon comes "from media and from other people making use of the Maya past to fulfill agendas that are really their own."

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Message 690528 - Posted: 11 Dec 2007, 2:18:12 UTC - in response to Message 690496.  
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Astronomers generally agree that "it would be impossible the Maya themselves would have known that,"

And yet there's the calendar, carbon dated and time tested... ;)

(Sorta reminds me of another peoples and another writings, but we won't go there.)
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Message 690568 - Posted: 11 Dec 2007, 4:22:41 UTC - in response to Message 690232.  

Tonight on Coast to Coast AM airing at 1am EST :

Mon 12.10 >>
Minister Lindsey Williams obtained access to oil company documents as a chaplain to the workers building the Alaskan oil pipeline in the 1970s. He'll discuss his knowledge of how the flow of oil has been suppressed and manipulated.

First Hour: John Longenecker speaks about gun policy.

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Message 690575 - Posted: 11 Dec 2007, 4:32:24 UTC - in response to Message 690568.  

Tonight on Coast to Coast AM airing at 1am EST :

Mon 12.10 >>
Minister Lindsey Williams obtained access to oil company documents as a chaplain to the workers building the Alaskan oil pipeline in the 1970s. He'll discuss his knowledge of how the flow of oil has been suppressed and manipulated.

First Hour: John Longenecker speaks about gun policy.

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Sounds fun. BTW, I think tomorrow might be the conspiracy day on the Medved show. I'll update later if I find out.
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Message 690792 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 4:29:00 UTC - in response to Message 690568.  

Tonight on Coast to Coast AM airing at 1am EST :

Tue 12.11 >>
Astrophysicist and author Bernard Haisch will discuss his theory, supported by recent astrophysical findings, that the universe is a product of an intelligence.

First Half-Hour: Dannion Brinkley reacts to a report of missing letters to wounded soldiers.

First Hour: John Longenecker speaks about gun policy.

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Message 690802 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 5:41:27 UTC - in response to Message 690792.  

the universe is a product of an intelligence.

Hmm... ;)
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Message 690823 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 7:21:00 UTC - in response to Message 690792.  

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Brace yourself
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Message 690827 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 7:28:41 UTC - in response to Message 690823.  

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lmao! He's going to draft people.

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Message 690850 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 14:11:38 UTC

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This is an interview of Michael Shermer of Skeptic magazine. He's the author of 'Why People Believe Weird Things'.

You may have seen him on numerous television appearances. CNN, Discovery Channel, etc.
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Message 690861 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 15:16:52 UTC

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