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Matt is still away on his well deserved vacation so I will summarize the week. | |
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Thank you for the update Jeff. | |
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Thanks for the info, I'll post a link @ TeAm AnandTech - there have been a few ;) questions ... | |
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I think that damn military radar has been the source of the -9 errors and noise in a lot of the WU in the last 6 months or so. | |
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I think that damn military radar has been the source of the -9 errors and noise in a lot of the WU in the last 6 months or so. It is in *all* of the multibeam data. As I recall, the linefeed array was lower down on the structure so the radar signal was blocked by a nearby hill. The multibeam array is positioned higher so it receives the signal. The splitters have been configured to remove most of it, but some still gets through. Right now it's been a tradeoff between the amount of radar signal in the work units and the amount of good data that is not split due to the possibility of radar contamination. When they get the new setup working they can remove the radar signal and *only* the radar signal. ____________ Jim Join GQFCrunchers Problems? Check the Boinc Wiki Or NEW Enhanced FAQ | |
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I think that damn military radar has been the source of the -9 errors and noise in a lot of the WU in the last 6 months or so. Thanks for this explanation.
I know I've seen an explanation before, but how can SETI 'be sure' they've removed the "d*** military radar" from the WU's? Without going through every second of WU data before it's sent? ____________ | |
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I know I've seen an explanation before, but how can SETI 'be sure' they've removed the "d*** military radar" from the WU's? Without going through every second of WU data before it's sent? There's a Scientific Newsletter article about it. | |
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If you have pending problems with garbage on the fibre cables you could check the mass points on the system. | |
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I'm suggesting making an occulting screen probably something like that of a drive-in movie theatre but that just may be too expensive and on someone elses property. Also the probability of hurricanes and tornadoes. Maybe a mesh, rather than a light-opaque structure would be just as effective. | |
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If you have pending problems with garbage on the fibre cables you could check the mass points on the system ..... Scrat, the fibres are _optical_ fibres so electrical problems such as grounding (mass?) do not have any effect. Excuse me for the english.... its a long time since last using it ;) Your English is fine :~} ____________ | |
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I'm suggesting making an occulting screen probably something like that of a drive-in movie theatre but that just may be too expensive and on someone elses property. Also the probability of hurricanes and tornadoes. Maybe a mesh, rather than a light-opaque structure would be just as effective. Hmm, good suggestion. It wouldn't have to be very big, just big enough to block the radar signal from the receiving antennas. Unless there's reflections from some other structure. It would have to be made of something opaque to the freq of the radar. Maybe the sort of radar absorbing material they use on the stealth and other planes. Absorbing the signal would be preferable to reflecting it for the radar op's sake! hehe Unless it were reflected at an angle so as not to bounce straight back at them! ____________ Jim Join GQFCrunchers Problems? Check the Boinc Wiki Or NEW Enhanced FAQ | |
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I'm suggesting making an occulting screen probably something like that of a drive-in movie theatre but that just may be too expensive and on someone elses property. Also the probability of hurricanes and tornadoes. Maybe a mesh, rather than a light-opaque structure would be just as effective. The First Invisibility Shield . . . Technology mighten be 'incorporated into' said 'meshin' . . . hmmm? | |
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If you have pending problems with garbage on the fibre cables you could check the mass points on the system. Sorry, but you are confusing electrical signal cables with fiber optic cables. The grounding advice you gave is well applied to electrical cables, but fiber optics are immune to RFI and other electical interference, and do not require shielding which is earthed (grounded). ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done. | |
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Absorbing the signal would be preferable to reflecting it for the radar op's sake! hehe Unless it were reflected at an angle so as not to bounce straight back at them! Well I'd send it back to them amplified a few billion times... but that's me! Problem with any amount of terrestrial rfi, it massively outweighs those we are looking for. Blocking rfi is difficult because of diffraction and reradiation, and the pylons will also resonate and reradiate all kinds of frequencies and pick up much more than just the radar. A huge multiwalled Faraday cage might help. Damned inconvenient to have one within line-of-sight-and-a-bit-more near Arecibo. The power of these things can be 10s of kW so even when not facing the antenna, leakage could still be considerable. Those responsible for the radar should also be responsible for it not interfering with their neighbours, and a radar absorber/attenuator/blocker or switcher offer would be more effective closer to the source. Saving grace is that the signal can be neutralized somewhat, or skipped over but there can still be annoying traces. Ideally would need to build a really big mountain around the dish and turn it into a large tube, or move to the far side of the Moon and recruit a few convenient craters. | |
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Absorbing the signal would be preferable to reflecting it for the radar op's sake! hehe Unless it were reflected at an angle so as not to bounce straight back at them! If it were a civilian installation, they might be held responsible for the problem, but being a military installation, no such restrictions apply. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done. | |
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:) I know that fibre cables normally have no shielding, but sometimes the rodent protection of the cables is connected to the sending and the receiving modul, or to the server rack. This can cause such problems, not because of electrical interference in the cable itself, but in the sending or receiving modul. I just wanted to mention it, cause i had such problems twice (with fibre optic) and it took me 2 months to locate the problem. | |
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Don't worry about sending it back to them. Their software will just remove it as ground clutter. I'm suggesting making an occulting screen probably something like that of a drive-in movie theatre but that just may be too expensive and on someone elses property. Also the probability of hurricanes and tornadoes. Maybe a mesh, rather than a light-opaque structure would be just as effective. ____________ | |
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I suppose if the 2 interconnected pieces of equipment were not on the same ground bus there could be some differential between them thus inducing some current flow from one to the other. Fair enough. When you don't have an obvious solution to a problem, you must look for other obscure causes. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done. | |
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I suppose if the 2 interconnected pieces of equipment were not on the same ground bus there could be some differential between them thus inducing some current flow from one to the other. All too common. Earth loops can be an nightmare to track down & resolve. ____________ Grant Darwin NT. | |
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