I can't imagine why people are so fascinated by plans of Nazi weapons which gladly never even have existed as prototypes that they let them resurrect as paintings or models, including the awful symbol of the most terrible part of German history, the "Third Reich".
Is that just ignorance or the wish to bring that system back?

None of the above.

This thread is not about ignorance but about an interest in military and other "Top Gun" aircraft. You can try and censor all mention of the Nazi regime if you want, but that regime produced scientists and inventors who went on to America and elsewhere to make the West what it is today, military or otherwise. Perhaps the awful symbols of the past should remain to remind us not to go back there, but we can still stop and wonder at what can be created from war, and the amazing ideas for planes that some had.

Ok. Sorry. I just was a bit scared.
Maybe I've been reading too often in the Politics boards... :D

btw: There is another and imho better use for "Top Gun" aircraft than war - joyrides and flightshows:
Mig29

Su47

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btw: There is another and imho better use for "Top Gun" aircraft than war - joyrides and flightshows:

Su47

That picture is a fantastic find thorin!

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JH-7

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Sukhoi t-4

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Sukhoi T-4MS

Russian Black Projects

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Russian hypersonic "Ajax" concept.

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Sukhoi's PAKFA (T-50)

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What about the MiG bomber "Skat"?




by the way, Matthew: Your Sukhoi PAKFA T-50 is actually shown at http://www.aviation.ru/MiG/ as a MiG I-2000.
But that doesn't matter, MiG and Sukhoi often shared designs and technologies with each other.

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What about the MiG bomber "Skat"?




by the way, Matthew: Your Sukhoi PAKFA T-50 is actually shown at http://www.aviation.ru/MiG/ as a MiG I-2000.
But that doesn't matter, MiG and Sukhoi often shared designs and technologies with each other.

Yeah I noticed that when I was seaching the interent that both companies has same designs

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X-45A

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Paying the price
news

Nobody doubts that the F-22 is a major advance over the F-15 as a means to gain aerial dominance in any near-term scenario, even if outnumbered by the latest products from Sukhoi, and faced with the most advanced integrated radar networks, controlling SAM systems that can reach out hundreds of kilometres. There is, however, little likelihood of such a situation arising for at least another two decades (although current Pentagon planning anticipates 2015 for these exotic systems – Ed). Nor can it be doubted that during this period the F-15 (with radar upgrade) will be perfectly capable of dealing with the fighter opposition, although it would clearly lack penetration capability.
Continuing to fund procurement of the
F-22 beyond the 131 under contract may use funds that could benefit more important programmes. For example, further technological developments are arguably needed to pave the way for a truly revolutionary manned or unmanned ‘aerospace-fighter’ to enter service around 2030, when the US might really be faced with a ‘near-peer’ military rival and when the F-22 will be looking long-in-the-tooth. One of the problems in assessing the shelf-life of the F-22 is that nobody knows how long radar stealth will remain viable. If America is planning space-based high-power laser weapons and orbiting radar antennas the size of football pitches, other nations will follow suit. For a downward-looking radar, even the best stealth aircraft is just a black hole moving across the terrain, something that can be tracked and attacked.
Another key reason to believe that the
F-22 is simply not revolutionary enough is that it represents little improvement over the F-15 in terms of dependence on overseas bases. These may not be made available by the host nation when the need arises, and they may be rendered unusable through strikes by ballistic missiles with NBC warheads. Such considerations have led the USAF to study a range of alternatives that will eventually give America the capability to strike anywhere in the world at short notice and independent of overseas bases. The USAF’s Long Range Strike (LRS) programme might result in a new subsonic or supersonic strategic bomber entering service around 2020. In this context, it may be noteworthy that Lockheed Martin has exhibited a model of a 70-tonne Mach 2 unmanned aircraft.

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PICTURES: EADS Military Barrakuda UCAV rolls out
Unofficial photos have emerged of EADS Military Air Systems' Barrakuda unmanned combat air vehicle (UCAV) demonstrator (pictured below

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FB-22 Strike Raptor/
X-44 MANTA

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Well - here a kind of some family tradition of mine:

My grandfather worked as an airplane mechanic during his army service:

A Dornier Do 17

And I worked as an airplane mechanic during my army service:

A MiG 21M Fishbed

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Dornier Do 335

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BAC TSR.2

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Great planes folks. Nice to see them all.

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Mig 21's are, well, so retro...

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Mig 21's are, well, so retro...

I just love the ones with the spiky look - you know, all those bristling missiles...

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