The pictures that you've posted show the aftermath of fire, and also that there was some attempt by the pilots wo level the planes. However, Flight 93 hit the ground in a near vertical dive and near sonic speeds...the effect of which is like a meteor hitting the earth...penetration, emplosion, explosion...it doesn't leave much intact and blows debris all over the real estate.

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Have some pictures for examples?

I bet the ground is scorched at least.

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the effect of which is like a meteor hitting the earth...

Oh yes... A 'tin foil' airplane would most definitely resemble a 'solid chunk of iron' meteor... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

This photo was taken seconds after the impart of Flight93...
notice the vertical jetting effect of gases just below the main cloud.
The black cloud was from the fuel atomization explosive flash followed
by heated gases generated from the impact compression. Some small part of this is
the steam created when the passengers bodies were instantly compression
heated and flased to hundreds of degrees.

This kind of crash scenario is exceedingly rare. However, they once test
shot a F4 fighter jet into a 2 meter thick concrete wall at high speed...there
wasn't much left to pick up except with a broom. Click the link and learn.

Now turn that over about 90 degrees and you can see what happened to Flight 93.
If that F4 was loaded with fuel it would have been a far more spectacular demonstration.




Flight 93 crater aerial photo showing ejecta patterns.




Flight 93 impact area...notice the near total disintegration and the
compression heat effects. The planes fuel was completely atomized on
impact which caused a quick but intensive flash explosive effect. There
would be little or no residual after burn.




Near crater debris and note that some of the smaller trees in the background were toppled.



One of the largest pieces of the plane which was recovered. Notice that it
wasn't burnt, but flash scorched and landed some distance from the impact crater.

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Well gee... Now I'm convinced... ;)

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the effect of which is like a meteor hitting the earth...

Oh yes... A 'tin foil' airplane would most definitely resemble a 'solid chunk of iron' meteor... ;)

Your again showing your ignorance again Jeffery...would you then kindly explain how a piece of hay can be driven into solid wood by a tornado.
250,000 pounds "tin foil" as you call it traveling at 700mph in a full throttle power dive would ruin your day...including the total disintegration of your white death shroud and turning you into toasted disassociated mulch.

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would you then kindly explain how a piece of hay can be driven into solid wood by a tornado.

Nope, but that would certainly explain how a little paper passport linking the perpetrators to the crime was miraculously found at the crash site... ;)

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would you then kindly explain how a piece of hay can be driven into solid wood by a tornado.

Nope, but that would certainly explain how a little paper passport linking the perpetrators to the crime was miraculously found at the crash site... ;)

OK Ignatz, refer to pix #5 and go back to the hay imbedded into the wood...
strange things happen in fractal chaos scenarios which gives the nutjobs a
handle to grab onto and start spouting all their conspiracy drivel.

Why does one person who gets picked up by a tornado gets shredded to pieces and another
person goes on a whirlwind flight then gets set down gentlely by the same tornado mile away from where they once were?

Hmmm...I'm waiting in rapt anticipation of your next brain fart.

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Why does one person who gets picked up by a tornado gets shredded to pieces and another person goes on a whirlwind flight then gets set down gentlely by the same tornado?

Maybe one habitually cursed God while the other habitually praised God... ;)

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Why does one person who gets picked up by a tornado gets shredded to pieces and another person goes on a whirlwind flight then gets set down gentlely by the same tornado?

Maybe one habitually cursed God while the other habitually praised God... ;)

Yup...that must be the answer.

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Does someone know if there is anything from official sources about any kind of explosion at the towers? Besides from the plane impacts.

The reason I was asking was because I'v been watching different footage of the attacks on the towers and have heard sounds that sound like they could be explosions other than the ones that were caused by the airliners hitting the buildings. Some footage is from some of the 9/11 documentaries and some from other sources. Here is some video that has audio of what sounds like explosions.

Now I have to say that it does sound like there are sounds of other explosions in this particular video. However, I'm not completely convinced that all of the sounds are caused by explosions. For example, during the fist few seconds of this nine minute video, there are dozens of sounds that seem to be explosions. And they are identified as such. But I was considering the possibility that those sounds may have been the sounds of winds hitting the camera.

Shortly after that there is some video that was taken very close to the base of the towers where there's audio of what sounds like demolition charges going off. Hmm, this I can't be sure about either because I've heard other audio where these very loud sounds are more muted. I was thinking that it was possible that it's the sound of the floors collapsing.

Alright, now to the next video. In this one there's a man talking on the telephone when all the sudden a VERY loud explosion is heard. First I thought that it is likely to be the sound of a large piece of the building hitting the ground after falling really fast. But after listening to various audio it sounds more and more like an explosion rather than the impact of a piece of the building.

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What is and is not on that particular video is neither here nor there for many reasons. Never mind that there were literally thousands of eye witnesses that saw the tragedy up close and personal...and if anyone thinks that a large airplane striking a skyscraper makes just one big boom on impact has another thing coming. Get real...

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Crash sites usually look like this:

Sure, because the pilots are generally fighting like hell to slow and land a crashing plane as safely as they can. It's almost unheard of that the "pilots" are actually TRYING to crash the plane into one of the strongest, hardened-concrete, structures ever built, one that was designed to be bomb-proof.

But be that as it may, the photos you posted still show tons of small pieces that were left, even after massive fire and not hitting a bomb-proof building. So it's no stretch that in this case, larger pieces of fuselage would have disintegrated more than usual.

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elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
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bobby,

I have done my homework. I just don't like doing it for everyone else.

The reason:

These things can only be learned on ones own. Some will listen but 95% or more will not. Frustrating but that's the reality of it.

Did you think I started this post because I hadn't learned before posting it?

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Did you think I started this post because I hadn't learned before posting it?

That often seems like the case, yes.

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Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

See:

The reason.

There is no need to argue or debate.

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See: The reason.

There is no need to argue or debate.

There are plenty of reason to discuss such topics and air out the various points of view.

That's why I present specific points.

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elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

I leave the debating to the rest of you who are still learning or want to help other learn. I just don't have the time, but will watch your progress.



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I just don't have the time, but will watch your progress.

Heh, thanks for that MrGray, so having dug up what you were talking about in the comments about "pulled", I cannot be sure that you watched the footage of WTC 7 (though you are quick to cirticize those that haven't watched Loose Change, a substantially longer piece).

Give us a clue, are some progressing to your state of enlightenment? Some of us getting warm?

Or do you just throw occassional stink bombs into a room and watch people argue over who did it?

Google will help you find the videos showing the individual explosions going off in building 7.

You'll also find firemen talking about hearing the explosions. I may even have some links to the data in this thread.

Scroll and google are your friends.



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