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Qui-Gon Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 2940 Credit: 19,199,902 RAC: 11 |
Is there a way to kill file an entire board? I'm sure there is, but it is easier to simply not open a thread/forum in which you have no interest. |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Looking at the news nightly I agree with the new forum section. Stick around and I guarantee you will learn something important. . "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Es99 (part ii) Send message Joined: 6 Jul 07 Posts: 291 Credit: 18,010 RAC: 0 |
Looking at the news nightly I agree with the new forum section. I like what you have done to the place MrGray. Account frozen... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
♥ :) "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Robert Smith Send message Joined: 15 Jan 01 Posts: 266 Credit: 66,963 RAC: 0 |
Do we really need a political forum?? No - we really don't. If I want lots of links to sh*te YouTube clips, I'll go to YouTube instead... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Solution: Don't click the "Politics" link. Participation not required. "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
Participation not required. Oh sure, now ya tell me... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
LOL "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
Yes we do need this forum, with all it's multiple threads. As has already been said ... If a poster has no interest then ignore it. Complaining about having the thread is as bad as saying there is nothing worth watching on TV. The equipment has an ON/OFF switch. Turn it off and there is no need to complsin! It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
The problem with a general "politics" forum on a GLOBAL message board should be obvious...... |
Qui-Gon Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 2940 Credit: 19,199,902 RAC: 11 |
The problem with a general "politics" forum on a GLOBAL message board should be obvious...... It's not so obvious to me. What if some French or Thai users want to open a thread discussing their own politics? If the posts are in a language I can understand, I would probably look in. And if the Political Thread series (which is mostly but not exclusively about American politics), is of interest to anyone of any nationality, then can, and do, look in and participate. |
AC Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0 |
The problem with a general "politics" forum on a GLOBAL message board should be obvious...... I'm assuming that you mean people from other countries will use it to attack American politics. |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
The problem with a general "politics" forum on a GLOBAL message board should be obvious...... Yes, it makes it much harder to sweep the dirt under the carpet, and keep it there... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
A French and a Thai user discussing each other's politics is fine and dandy.....Exactly where is that topic or anyone remotely as mild? As far as "attacking" American politics, I think it's much simpler than that and really boils down to knowledge. Reading the NY Times is a lot different than living in New York City and no amount of creditable/news worthy resources/history/research will change that. I'm not advocating a removal or anything, excuse me if that was the perception. Just stating an opinion here. |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
As far as "attacking" American politics, I think it's much simpler than that and really boils down to knowledge. Like knowing, understanding, and defending the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution? ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
As far as "attacking" American politics, I think it's much simpler than that and really boils down to knowledge. The US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution do not apply to non-Americans and if you don't "understand" that very basic point, then you certainly can't "defend" either document. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
The term 'Politics' applies to much much more than just government. As the Wikipedia puts it: Politics is the process by which groups of people make decisions. David Easton describes politics as "the authoritative allocation of values for a society". Although the term is generally applied to behavior within governments, politics is observed in all human group interactions, including corporate, academic, and religious institutions. My personal definition of Politics is "the interaction of people in groups, both within that group and with other groups." Yes, any discussion of national partisan politics belongs here, though I hope that people won't get too carried away with it. It tends to bore many people. Of course, a more general discussion of Political Science belongs here, as do discussions of Political Philosophy. Discussions of Public Administration belong here as well. Discussions of how various governments around the world operate, why governments should (or should not) do certain things, and various other issues of importance to humanity as a whole can be quite educational for us all. As an admin pointed out, Religion fits here too. Since religion is a form of political behavior, in my opinion, Religion has its best fit here. Also, since the posters on this forum form a 'group', discussion of Moderation Process and Policy fits here too, as long as all of us can keep it civil and avoid losing our tempers. Note that discussion of Specific Instances of Moderation is still not allowed, here or anywhere else on these forums, per the Admin's policy. The reason why, in my opinion, this Politics forum is a good idea is that many people have either no interest in political subjects or are greatly interested and have strong feelings about at least some of the subjects. Tempers can, at times, flare during political discussions, and the rhetoric can become quite heated. Putting the political topics here allows the general socializing in the Cafe to continue without interruption from either 'boring political topics' or 'accidental pie fights stemming from a debate on "the Whichness of Why vs. the Whyness of Which"'. |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
The US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution do not apply to non-Americans and if you don't "understand" that very basic point, then you certainly can't "defend" either document. Islam and the Qur'an do not apply to non-Muslims and if you don't "understand" that very basic point, then you certainly can't "criticize" either of them. But but but... didn't you just say: I think it's much simpler than that and really boils down to knowledge. Interesting analogy though... eh? ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
The US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution do not apply to non-Americans and if you don't "understand" that very basic point, then you certainly can't "defend" either document. What a coincidence....I don't care what Islam or the Qur'an preach. My homeland was attacked by middle eastern terrorists, they specifically targeted civilian locations in order to maximize civilian damage and casualities and I don't really care what what BS excuse they use to justify that type of aggression. |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
My homeland was attacked And here we uncover the first flaw in your thinking process: This isn't YOUR country, this is OUR country... And WE don't all believe as YOU do... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
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