Takin' Care of Business and Workin' Overtime (May 11 2007)

Author	Message
Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14653 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874	Message 567170 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 14:59:40 UTC - in response to Message 567162. In fact, yes, but remember that a thing are the work units, and another, a result. Work units are RAW data, preprocesed from the tapes, and results are the result obtained from that data (as less, I think so. MATT, HELP ;) ). I'm not Matt, but I hope I can help. The workunit is, in fact, the actual data ready to download: since the tip was posted on NC this morning, I've been able to look at the server directories and download the WUs I've been allocated. So the raw telescope data has been split, and a reasonable buffer built up: I read the "Results ready to send 342,172" as representing 'spare' work not yet allocated to a host, unlike the "Results in progress 1,341,312" which have been assigned - even if not yet downloaded and crunched. The 'results' are basically just a BOINC database instruction to download a specific (already existing) WU data file and process it. Very little work to do there, and in fact most of it has been done already. That's why results which reached deadline during Thumper's absence could be re-issued - the WU data was already there and logged in the Master Science Database. ID: 567170 ·

TarracoServer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Apr 07 Posts: 38 Credit: 595,022 RAC: 0	Message 567183 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 15:12:27 UTC - in response to Message 567170. In fact, yes, but remember that a thing are the work units, and another, a result. Work units are RAW data, preprocesed from the tapes, and results are the result obtained from that data (as less, I think so. MATT, HELP ;) ). ... The 'results' are basically just a BOINC database instruction to download a specific (already existing) WU data file and process it. Very little work to do there, and in fact most of it has been done already. That's why results which reached deadline during Thumper's absence could be re-issued - the WU data was already there and logged in the Master Science Database. Thx very much ;) ID: 567183 ·

TarracoServer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Apr 07 Posts: 38 Credit: 595,022 RAC: 0	Message 567195 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 15:25:56 UTC - in response to Message 567183. Please, keith, excuse me, but I read the post too fast :( Ok, guys, the problem is: Thumper (the master science database server) has been replaced and is up and running again. There are huge problems with upload/download most probably because the servers are being clobbered with requests. So please have patience. And please let your BOINC manager(s) do what they are made to, to contact when it's time. Please don't hit the Update button, your uploads/downloads will get through eventually. Thank you. So, don't click the button! As I said, The problems will be resolved soon. ID: 567195 ·

marsinph Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 7 Apr 01 Posts: 172 Credit: 23,823,824 RAC: 0	Message 567239 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 16:40:56 UTC Hello everybody, I receive WU, slow, but I receive byt using the proxy ( to DL ). My problem is the deadline !!! It is imposible to upload. What shall happen with all the WU who are overtime due to connection problems ??? I not mean about a few WU, but about hundreds. In near future, it wil be about 1000 results to send !!! ID: 567239 ·

Pilot Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 534 Credit: 5,475,482 RAC: 0	Message 567240 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 16:44:53 UTC - in response to Message 567239. Hello everybody, I receive WU, slow, but I receive byt using the proxy ( to DL ). My problem is the deadline !!! It is imposible to upload. What shall happen with all the WU who are overtime due to connection problems ??? I not mean about a few WU, but about hundreds. In near future, it wil be about 1000 results to send !!! I saw somewhere earlier that the deadlines will be extended, and you will still get credit! Meantime... my graph for network activity looks like a heart monitor in the cardiac care emergency room. Faint blips every now and again. When we finally figure it all out, all the rules will change and we can start all over again. ID: 567240 ·

Bax Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 182 Credit: 3,919,072 RAC: 0	Message 567252 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 17:01:29 UTC - in response to Message 567195. Please, keith, excuse me, but I read the post too fast :( Ok, guys, the problem is: Thumper (the master science database server) has been replaced and is up and running again. There are huge problems with upload/download most probably because the servers are being clobbered with requests. So please have patience. And please let your BOINC manager(s) do what they are made to, to contact when it's time. Please don't hit the Update button, your uploads/downloads will get through eventually. Thank you. So, don't click the button! As I said, The problems will be resolved soon. Uploads/Downloads are slowly happening. I finally uploaded 2 WU's and got 1. Join The Assimilators Free Internet Radio! "The Assimilators" Browser Toolbar! ID: 567252 ·

TarracoServer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Apr 07 Posts: 38 Credit: 595,022 RAC: 0	Message 567278 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 17:31:01 UTC Last modified: 14 May 2007, 17:33:31 UTC All right. If you see the graph... (thx keith ;) ) you can see that now, there is some network activity (near 5 k paquets/sec). This means that the info is reaching the servers, so, there isn't a real deadline (only an overload of the net). So, it's probably that all of us can get/put on the FTP server the results, but very, very, very slow. 'Till now, what happenned?... No idea. Just wait Matt or another of the investigators to report anything. PD: Anybody noted that Matt (or somebody directly implicated with project) hasn't report anything today? There's only a possibility: LOTS OF WORK. Please, be patient. ;) ID: 567278 ·

DamageCase Send message Joined: 5 May 07 Posts: 3 Credit: 414,432 RAC: 0	Message 567288 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 17:47:12 UTC By the looks of this page a lot of servers were shutdown. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html I hope it's not a bad sign :( ID: 567288 ·

KB7RZF Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9549 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2	Message 567292 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 17:51:04 UTC - in response to Message 567288. By the looks of this page a lot of servers were shutdown. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html I hope it's not a bad sign :( Most are green and orange now. I just came home for lunch, and set to get new work, and got 1 WU, since i've got a lot of other work right now, so the work is flowing, its just gonna be hit and miss as they try to keep up with the huge demand from all the computers pounding them. :-) Patience is the keyword for today. :-) ID: 567292 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 567293 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 17:51:47 UTC - in response to Message 567288. By the looks of this page a lot of servers were shutdown. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html I hope it's not a bad sign :( My guess is that they are working on the problems. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 567293 ·

RSJR Send message Joined: 19 Jan 01 Posts: 12 Credit: 786,583 RAC: 0	Message 567296 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 17:55:15 UTC My machines are receiving data (slowly) and processing. :-) Good work, ya'll. RSJR + 6,198 classic Seti@Home Units (68,265 CPU Hours) ID: 567296 ·

Mephist0 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Dec 99 Posts: 12 Credit: 1,401,540 RAC: 0	Message 567301 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 18:04:41 UTC - in response to Message 567293. By the looks of this page a lot of servers were shutdown. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html I hope it's not a bad sign :( My guess is that they are working on the problems. Looks like that yes.. By the way.. i just got one result now! Speed 4,5KB/s .. I have had 5 results it has been trying to get since yesterday. And one got downloaded now! I have set the manager to not get more work since i guess i only spam the servers if i try to get more.. The next work unit it will try to get in 2minutes.. And next after that 2 hours.. So lets see what happens :D The status page says that thumper is down now.... But i got my result anyway.. Since thumper is not involved in sending out the results.. Download of second WU seems to fail... But got one! :D wee ;) ID: 567301 ·

BorgKing Send message Joined: 1 Feb 00 Posts: 7 Credit: 2,134,392 RAC: 0	Message 567306 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 18:10:00 UTC anyone know if this is Thumper I or Thumper II thumper: Sun Fire X4500 (2 dual-core 2.6GHz Opteron, 8 GB RAM) ID: 567306 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 567314 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 18:20:30 UTC - in response to Message 567306. Last modified: 14 May 2007, 18:21:34 UTC anyone know if this is Thumper I or Thumper II thumper: Sun Fire X4500 (2 dual-core 2.6GHz Opteron, 8 GB RAM) That is Thumper, resurrected in it's second incarnation. It only got a brain transplant, it's still the same Thumper. And my qualified guess is that Eric is working on it right now. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 567314 ·

KevinDouglasPhD Project scientist Send message Joined: 6 Feb 06 Posts: 107 Credit: 23,981 RAC: 0	Message 567327 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 18:41:58 UTC - in response to Message 567314. anyone know if this is Thumper I or Thumper II thumper: Sun Fire X4500 (2 dual-core 2.6GHz Opteron, 8 GB RAM) That is Thumper, resurrected in it's second incarnation. It only got a brain transplant, it's still the same Thumper. And my qualified guess is that Eric is working on it right now. At the moment I believe Matt is putting thumper into the server closet, since it sounds like an airplane engine (it was in the main SETI@home lab over the weekend, I think). ID: 567327 ·

BANZAI56 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 May 00 Posts: 139 Credit: 47,299,948 RAC: 2	Message 567331 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 18:50:59 UTC - in response to Message 567327. At the moment I believe Matt is putting thumper into the server closet, since it sounds like an airplane engine (it was in the main SETI@home lab over the weekend, I think). What..you guys don't like the sound of airplane engines in and about your workspace? ;) LoL! Me neither & thanks for the mid-day update!!! ID: 567331 ·

Keith T. Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Aug 99 Posts: 962 Credit: 537,293 RAC: 9	Message 567332 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 18:52:35 UTC - in response to Message 567327. anyone know if this is Thumper I or Thumper II thumper: Sun Fire X4500 (2 dual-core 2.6GHz Opteron, 8 GB RAM) That is Thumper, resurrected in it's second incarnation. It only got a brain transplant, it's still the same Thumper. And my qualified guess is that Eric is working on it right now. At the moment I believe Matt is putting thumper into the server closet, since it sounds like an airplane engine (it was in the main SETI@home lab over the weekend, I think). Ah, I suspected it could be something like that. Would not like you guys to get thumping headaches :-) Hope you all had a good w/e. K. ID: 567332 ·

KD [SETI.USA] Send message Joined: 24 Oct 99 Posts: 459 Credit: 2,513,131 RAC: 0	Message 567345 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 19:22:53 UTC Last modified: 14 May 2007, 19:27:43 UTC Great job, guys, with getting the 'new' Sun Fire up and going so quickly. Did Sun allow you to keep the 'old' (broken) Sun Fire or do they want it back? The first one wasn't a final production product, but rather just one of their early 'testing prototypes'? It's physical dimensions, backplanes, etc, are different from the final Sun Fire production product? Could Sun be sweet talked out of a replacement 'old prototype' board for it? If they even have any spares, that is. Fix the 'old' Thumper and it is a secondary MSD. Grateful to Sun already, but really -- in their corporate eyes, donating their 'old prototype' hardware, which won't sell to 'real customers' anyway, is just about tax deduction and publicity. I recall having seen, on Sun's website, that S@H is powered by Sun's machines. They sure don't seem to have any problem using S@H for their own purpose (publicity). Nothing wrong with that, of course. ID: 567345 ·

Conrad Human Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 Nov 00 Posts: 67 Credit: 2,009,224 RAC: 0	Message 567353 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 19:31:25 UTC If they cant fix old thumper if they must send it back send it back without cpu's,mem + HDD's We can always find an replacement MB / chassis that can use old thumpers memory ,cpu's and put removed HDD's from new thumper in this box I see another "component drive comming up" Ps Mat dont strain your self on that server it must be heavy ID: 567353 ·

Chris Cashman Send message Joined: 31 Jul 99 Posts: 1 Credit: 3,049,728 RAC: 0	Message 567359 - Posted: 14 May 2007, 19:53:25 UTC G'day Team, There's still some grief at my end. The new server has files queued on my BOINC Manager and has been attempting to download them for ages and ages. Messages keep appearing that say the following over and over and over. It's been going on for yonks now - any ideas as to what if anything I need to be doing - or is it just a waiting game? Cheers ...... Chris 14/05/2007 5:13:16 PM\|\|Starting BOINC client version 5.8.11 for windows_intelx86 14/05/2007 5:13:16 PM\|\|log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops 14/05/2007 5:13:16 PM\|\|Libraries: libcurl/7.16.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8a zlib/1.2.3 14/05/2007 5:13:16 PM\|\|Data directory: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC 14/05/2007 5:13:17 PM\|\|Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 7] [fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx] 14/05/2007 5:13:17 PM\|\|Memory: 1023.43 MB physical, 2.40 GB virtual 14/05/2007 5:13:17 PM\|\|Disk: 149.04 GB total, 117.05 GB free 14/05/2007 5:13:17 PM\|SETI@home\|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 3094689; location: home; project prefs: default 14/05/2007 5:13:17 PM\|\|General prefs: from http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/ (last modified 2007-02-20 16:31:48) 14/05/2007 5:13:17 PM\|\|Host location: none 14/05/2007 5:13:17 PM\|\|General prefs: using your defaults 14/05/2007 5:13:18 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Started download of file setiathome_5.15_windows_intelx86.exe 14/05/2007 5:13:18 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Started download of file libfftw3f-3-1-1a.dll 14/05/2007 5:13:40 PM\|\|Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 14/05/2007 5:13:40 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of setiathome_5.15_windows_intelx86.exe: system connect 14/05/2007 5:13:40 PM\|SETI@home\|Backing off 5 min 46 sec on download of file setiathome_5.15_windows_intelx86.exe 14/05/2007 5:13:40 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of libfftw3f-3-1-1a.dll: system connect 14/05/2007 5:13:40 PM\|SETI@home\|Backing off 2 min 17 sec on download of file libfftw3f-3-1-1a.dll 14/05/2007 5:13:40 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Started download of file setiathome_5.15_COPYING 14/05/2007 5:13:40 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Started download of file setiathome_5.15_COPYRIGHT 14/05/2007 5:13:42 PM\|\|Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down. 14/05/2007 5:14:02 PM\|\|Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 14/05/2007 5:14:02 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of setiathome_5.15_COPYING: system connect 14/05/2007 5:14:02 PM\|SETI@home\|Backing off 2 min 42 sec on download of file setiathome_5.15_COPYING 14/05/2007 5:14:02 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of setiathome_5.15_COPYRIGHT: system connect 14/05/2007 5:14:02 PM\|SETI@home\|Backing off 5 min 56 sec on download of file setiathome_5.15_COPYRIGHT 14/05/2007 5:14:02 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Started download of file setiathome_5.15_README 14/05/2007 5:14:02 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Started download of file seti515.jpg 14/05/2007 5:14:03 PM\|\|Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down. 14/05/2007 5:14:23 PM\|\|Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 14/05/2007 5:14:23 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of setiathome_5.15_README: system connect 14/05/2007 5:14:23 PM\|SETI@home\|Backing off 1 min 39 sec on download of file setiathome_5.15_README 14/05/2007 5:14:23 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of seti515.jpg: system connect 14/05/2007 5:14:23 PM\|SETI@home\|Backing off 2 min 4 sec on download of file seti515.jpg 14/05/2007 5:14:23 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Started download of file setiathome_5.15_AUTHORS 14/05/2007 5:14:23 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Started download of file 16fe05ab.10775.16241.873586.3.26 14/05/2007 5:14:24 PM\|\|Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down. 14/05/2007 5:14:45 PM\|\|Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 14/05/2007 5:14:45 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of setiathome_5.15_AUTHORS: system connect 14/05/2007 5:14:45 PM\|SETI@home\|Backing off 3 min 52 sec on download of file setiathome_5.15_AUTHORS 14/05/2007 5:14:45 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 16fe05ab.10775.16241.873586.3.26: system connect 14/05/2007 5:14:45 PM\|SETI@home\|Backing off 3 min 7 sec on download of file 16fe05ab.10775.16241.873586.3.26 14/05/2007 5:14:45 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Started download of file 16fe05ab.10775.16241.873586.3.140 14/05/2007 5:14:47 PM\|\|Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down. 14/05/2007 5:15:06 PM\|\|Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 14/05/2007 5:15:06 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 16fe05ab.10775.16241.873586.3.140: system connect 14/05/2007 5:15:06 PM\|SETI@home\|Backing off 1 min 49 sec on download of file 16fe05ab.10775.16241.873586.3.140 14/05/2007 5:15:09 PM\|\|Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down. 14/05/2007 5:15:59 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Started download of file libfftw3f-3-1-1a.dll 14/05/2007 5:16:04 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Started download of file setiathome_5.15_README 14/05/2007 5:16:21 PM\|\|Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 14/05/2007 5:16:21 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of libfftw3f-3-1-1a.dll: system connect 14/05/2007 5:16:21 PM\|SETI@home\|Backing off 4 min 42 sec on download of file libfftw3f-3-1-1a.dll 14/05/2007 5:16:23 PM\|\|Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down. 14/05/2007 5:16:26 PM\|\|Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 14/05/2007 5:16:26 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of setiathome_5.15_README: system connect 14/05/2007 5:16:26 PM\|SETI@home\|Backing off 4 min 35 sec on download of file setiathome_5.15_README 14/05/2007 5:16:28 PM\|\|Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down. 14/05/2007 5:16:28 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Started download of file seti515.jpg 14/05/2007 5:16:44 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Started download of file setiathome_5.15_COPYING 14/05/2007 5:16:50 PM\|\|Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 14/05/2007 5:16:50 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of seti515.jpg: system connect 14/05/2007 5:16:50 PM\|SETI@home\|Backing off 15 min 57 sec on download of file seti515.jpg 14/05/2007 5:16:52 PM\|\|Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down. 14/05/2007 5:16:56 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Started download of file 16fe05ab.10775.16241.873586.3.140 14/05/2007 5:17:06 PM\|\|Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 14/05/2007 5:17:06 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of setiathome_5.15_COPYING: system connect 14/05/2007 5:17:06 PM\|SETI@home\|Backing off 16 min 0 sec on download of file setiathome_5.15_COPYING 14/05/2007 5:17:08 PM\|\|Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down. 14/05/2007 5:17:19 PM\|\|Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 14/05/2007 5:17:20 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 16fe05ab.10775.16241.873586.3.140: system connect 14/05/2007 5:17:20 PM\|SETI@home\|Backing off 2 min 8 sec on download of file 16fe05ab.10775.16241.873586.3.140 14/05/2007 5:17:21 PM\|\|Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down. 14/05/2007 5:17:53 PM\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer] Started download of file 16fe05ab.10775.16241.873586.3.26 ID: 567359 ·

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