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Message 520545 - Posted: 20 Feb 2007, 22:13:55 UTC

We aborted the isaac upgrade midstream - we need to order new bigger drives after all. So that'll be put on hold again, probably until next week. In brighter news, it's looking more and more like the recent database tuning has vastly helped "grease the wheels" in our server backend. Bob should write up his observations at some point.

We're still on for the big network cutover tomorrow. I put a warning on the home page about a potential short outage. Sometimes I wonder if these warnings are helpful. Most people don't notice when we are offline, so are we just inciting confusion and panic? Others are angry if we don't acknowledge our down time and see this as insulting indifference to our users. None of us here at the lab claim to be experts at public relations and social engineering, so what you're left with is whatever we happen to feel is appropriate at that time (if we have the time).

Ooo! Eric just popped in with donated hardware (memory, motherboard, CPUs) so we'll try to sync up tomorrow and do simultaneous upgrades of ewen and sidious.

- Matt

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Message 520550 - Posted: 20 Feb 2007, 22:20:55 UTC - in response to Message 520545.

We're still on for the big network cutover tomorrow. I put a warning on the home page about a potential short outage. Sometimes I wonder if these warnings are helpful. Most people don't notice when we are offline, so are we just inciting confusion and panic? - Matt

Matt,

The post about the potential outage tomorrow is most definately appreciated. I don't think posting it will incite confusion or panic, but it would most definately cause panic if you didn't post the warning on the home page. This way, if anyone doesn't see it and panics, crunchers who have seen it will be able to post replies back to those panic stricken about what is going on.

Again, thanks for the heads-up.

-Torrey
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Message 520577 - Posted: 20 Feb 2007, 22:57:40 UTC
Last modified: 20 Feb 2007, 22:58:50 UTC

I agree. It is always nice to get a heads up on potential problems, even if they do not impact us users.

Can you give any info oo what was donated (at least to this point) that is going to be implimented soon?
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Message 520619 - Posted: 21 Feb 2007, 0:28:18 UTC - in response to Message 520550.

We're still on for the big network cutover tomorrow. I put a warning on the home page about a potential short outage. Sometimes I wonder if these warnings are helpful. Most people don't notice when we are offline, so are we just inciting confusion and panic? - Matt

Matt,

The post about the potential outage tomorrow is most definately appreciated. I don't think posting it will incite confusion or panic, but it would most definately cause panic if you didn't post the warning on the home page. This way, if anyone doesn't see it and panics, crunchers who have seen it will be able to post replies back to those panic stricken about what is going on.

Again, thanks for the heads-up.

-Torrey

I would support both the previous posters.

\\\\you have given the supporters an indication of issues tomorrow, and why.

\\it is up to those who are aware of these issues to take on the responsibility (willingly) to act as a conduit to answer other poster questins in NC, or else where!
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Message 520627 - Posted: 21 Feb 2007, 0:40:18 UTC

Thanks for the update's Matt, it is greatly appriciated. Having this part of the forum here gives a 1 stop place to look for updates. I know many of us used to post the Tech News and Front Page news in the Number Crunching forums, and now with having here to come to, sure makes it a lot easier to find. Good luck tomorrow with the upgrade, I hope it runs smooth.

Jeremy
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Message 520629 - Posted: 21 Feb 2007, 0:42:15 UTC

Okay. All valid points about posting information warnings on the front page. I don't disagree, but sometimes we don't bother with these messages for various reasons. Like we're just unplugging the network cable for two minutes during an impromptu test. Or to explain what exactly is going on would take longer than fixing the problem. Or we simply just forget. For example, right now I'm running on about 4 hours' sleep and coasting to the end of a 9 hour day that was a bit chaotic as my original plans were shot to hell early on. So sometimes amidst a day like this full of random context-switching posting coherent messages on the web site falls over the edge of my process queue. At least with the influx of time I learned a little more about router configuration and did some extra preparation ahead of tomorrow's big switchover, among other things.

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Message 520655 - Posted: 21 Feb 2007, 1:24:37 UTC - in response to Message 520629.

...ahead of tomorrow's big switchover, among other things.

Enjoy a deep snooze and good luck with the plugs and configs!

:-o

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Message 521212 - Posted: 21 Feb 2007, 22:02:31 UTC - in response to Message 520545.

...

Ooo! Eric just popped in with donated hardware (memory, motherboard, CPUs) so we'll try to sync up tomorrow and do simultaneous upgrades of ewen and sidious.

- Matt

Good! :-D

Thank you to all who have donated servers and other bits and pieces to the project. I'm sure they have all fallen on dry spots, and if it can smooth out the days of the staff, Matt and Co., and take away some of the annoyances of working with that old obsolete hardware, it's good. Thank you! :-)

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Message 521480 - Posted: 22 Feb 2007, 9:07:59 UTC - in response to Message 520629.

For example, right now I'm running on about 4 hours' sleep and coasting to the end of a 9 hour day that was a bit chaotic as my original plans were shot to hell early on.

- Matt

Sometimes when you're butt deep in alligators, it is tough to remember the objective was to drain the swamp! Keep plugging away, you guys do a great job with what resources you have.

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