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Message 511165 - Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 11:38:43 UTC

Yesterday I installed Vista Home Premium into one of my 3.0 dual core computers, reinstalled Boinc and it is taking about 3,600 seconds to complete the average work unit. This on top of the fact that I haven't had any time to optimize the computer, nor the Seti app.

Anyone else getting the same results?
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Message 511166 - Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 11:40:07 UTC - in response to Message 511165.  

Yesterday I installed Vista Home Premium into one of my 3.0 dual core computers, reinstalled Boinc and it is taking about 3,600 seconds to complete the average work unit. This on top of the fact that I haven't had any time to optimize the computer, nor the Seti app.

Anyone else getting the same results?

Is that good or bad?

Try installing a Linux distro and compare?

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Message 511169 - Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 11:45:57 UTC

Have you looked at the Angle Ranges? Keith Scott reports getting a bunch of short wus lately in this post to the Panic Mode (3) thread.

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Message 511171 - Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 11:50:18 UTC - in response to Message 511169.  

Have you looked at the Angle Ranges? Keith Scott reports getting a bunch of short wus lately in this post to the Panic Mode (3) thread.

Could be just a weird coincedence...time will tell. THX
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Message 511173 - Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 12:02:50 UTC - in response to Message 511171.  

Have you looked at the Angle Ranges? Keith Scott reports getting a bunch of short wus lately in this post to the Panic Mode (3) thread.

Could be just a weird coincedence...time will tell. THX


Yes, sometimes ultra short ones come in "clusters" ;)
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Message 511284 - Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 16:42:41 UTC

Some if someone install Vista and run SETI, the performance is slower than the XP running SETI?
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Message 511328 - Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 19:43:13 UTC

Question for those with Vista (retail).

Are the preferences ("Run based on Preferences", based on venue settings) working correctly with Boinc?

Just wondering because it wasn't working correctly for me back when I using Vista (Beta2) for a while. It didn't recognize "Don't do work while user is active".

No hurry for Vista here, just curious. :-)
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Message 511332 - Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 19:54:34 UTC - in response to Message 511284.  
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Some if someone install Vista and run SETI, the performance is slower than the XP running SETI?


I used (played around) with Vista (Beta2) about six months or so ago. I found it to be on par with WinXP Pro.

I suspect Vista (retail) probably has a lot more filler though.

I'm in no hurry for Vista. I admit to playing around with it just to see the eye candy. Aero Glass was interesting for about ten minutes, I guess. All it really gives you is just transparent window borders, Flip3D, and "live" minimized previews.

Sidebar seemed kind of "gimmicky" to me, but there weren't many modules to play around with in Beta2 or to download. Eventually, it could be useful, I guess.

I did like the new start menu approach, I found it to be more intuitive.

..but, what I really didn't like about it were some of the new "security" features. At least with Beta2, I thought they were more complicated than need be, along with being very annoying. Worse, Vista (Beta2) trusted itself more than it did an "admin" user! That just seems to be a dangerous precedent. Experienced users will just turn some of this annoying "security" off all together, while malware will take advantage of it to make it extremely difficult for novice users to fix their own computers.

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Message 511337 - Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 20:16:14 UTC
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The box I installed Vista on (which I had no real plans to install originally), had HP Windows Media Center on it and all the HP stuff on it was dragging it down and had Windows 32 corruption issues. Therefore Vista Home Premium had an alternative to the original factory installed OS. Boinc is so far doing just fine. The Realtek AC97 sound board is another matter. Vista can't even see it and there appears to be an issue with it on the Microsoft Vista news groups.
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Message 511353 - Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 21:11:18 UTC

A couple of weeks ago there was a user reporting some problem with DirectX and SAH, and he was wandering if anybody had any experience running it with DX10. Have anybody noticed anything?

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Message 511357 - Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 21:19:40 UTC - in response to Message 511353.  

A couple of weeks ago there was a user reporting some problem with DirectX and SAH, and he was wandering if anybody had any experience running it with DX10. Have anybody noticed anything?

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I've been running Vista for about a week now (full OEM 64bit Ultimate) without issues.
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Message 511472 - Posted: 1 Feb 2007, 2:33:19 UTC

RE: Realtek AC97...

I'll keep that it mind if I ever install Vista on my laptop...

I was actually surprised that Vista (Beta2) did find practically everything on, and had (MS) drivers ready for, the desktop that I played around with it on.

The only thing that I "had to" install were just drivers for a wireless NIC, but thats understandable.

Aero Glass was even working fine with the MS drivers for the video card. I installed ATI's anyway, of course, though.

The only piece of hardware that wouldn't work was the joystick port on my soundcard. Even after installing CL's drivers, it still didn't work. Read later that MS dropped joystick port support on soundcards completetly starting with Vista. Not that I needed it, or its a big deal. All joysticks are USB these days, anyway...


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Message 511526 - Posted: 1 Feb 2007, 4:28:41 UTC - in response to Message 511332.  

Some if someone install Vista and run SETI, the performance is slower than the XP running SETI?


I used (played around) with Vista (Beta2) about six months or so ago. I found it to be on par with WinXP Pro.

I suspect Vista (retail) probably has a lot more filler though.

I'm in no hurry for Vista. I admit to playing around with it just to see the eye candy. Aero Glass was interesting for about ten minutes, I guess. All it really gives you is just transparent window borders, Flip3D, and "live" minimized previews.

Sidebar seemed kind of "gimmicky" to me, but there weren't many modules to play around with in Beta2 or to download. Eventually, it could be useful, I guess.

I did like the new start menu approach, I found it to be more intuitive.

Bravo Well Said and my same experience and feelings. I picked up X64 and am happy for the moment


..but, what I really didn't like about it were some of the new "security" features. At least with Beta2, I thought they were more complicated than need be, along with being very annoying. Worse, Vista (Beta2) trusted itself more than it did an "admin" user! That just seems to be a dangerous precedent. Experienced users will just turn some of this annoying "security" off all together, while malware will take advantage of it to make it extremely difficult for novice users to fix their own computers.



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Message 512143 - Posted: 2 Feb 2007, 13:53:31 UTC - in response to Message 511353.  

A couple of weeks ago there was a user reporting some problem with DirectX and SAH, and he was wandering if anybody had any experience running it with DX10. Have anybody noticed anything?

Regards,
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I've used SAH/BOINC with DX10 with no problems on XP Home and Pro - but I'm not risking Vista yet. I'll let the bugs get ironed out by others first!

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Message 512222 - Posted: 2 Feb 2007, 18:11:55 UTC - in response to Message 512143.  

A couple of weeks ago there was a user reporting some problem with DirectX and SAH, and he was wandering if anybody had any experience running it with DX10. Have anybody noticed anything?

Regards,
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I've used SAH/BOINC with DX10 with no problems on XP Home and Pro - but I'm not risking Vista yet. I'll let the bugs get ironed out by others first!

Steve.


No argument here :) "first versions" always gave me some pause. I'm in absolutely no hurry to upgrade. To be honest, all my XP machines will probably "die" XP. If I buy a new system, then perhaps...

With some luck the user I was referring to is reading all this. Thanks.

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Message 512241 - Posted: 2 Feb 2007, 18:59:32 UTC - in response to Message 512143.  
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I've used SAH/BOINC with DX10 with no problems on XP Home and Pro - but I'm not risking Vista yet. I'll let the bugs get ironed out by others first!

Steve.


Unless MS has changed their mind (and I don't believe they have), you are not "using DX10 with no problems on XP Home and Pro". DX10 is Vista exclusive. You're still using DX9.0c.
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Message 512302 - Posted: 2 Feb 2007, 20:47:41 UTC - in response to Message 511337.  

The box I installed Vista on (which I had no real plans to install originally), had HP Windows Media Center on it and all the HP stuff on it was dragging it down and had Windows 32 corruption issues. Therefore Vista Home Premium had an alternative to the original factory installed OS. Boinc is so far doing just fine. The Realtek AC97 sound board is another matter. Vista can't even see it and there appears to be an issue with it on the Microsoft Vista news groups.

Cleared up the sound problem...Realtek has new Vista HD audio codecs for download and that cleared up that issue.
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Message 512442 - Posted: 3 Feb 2007, 2:03:19 UTC

To get back to the orginal topic...

I am also running BOINC on a dual-core pentium with Vista (Ultimate). The "run by preferences" option is being ignored, and the processes are running full time even though my preferences say not to run when the user is active. The XP and 2000 boxes of the same make run correctly.
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Message 512863 - Posted: 4 Feb 2007, 1:19:33 UTC - in response to Message 511165.  
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Yesterday I installed Vista Home Premium into one of my 3.0 dual core computers, reinstalled Boinc and it is taking about 3,600 seconds to complete the average work unit. This on top of the fact that I haven't had any time to optimize the computer, nor the Seti app.

Anyone else getting the same results?


That's consistent with what my Core 2 Duo machine (E6700) is cranking out, too. Vista Home Premium, 2 GBytes RAM, ASUS 5W DH MB. Just built it and got it up and running last night. Looks like it's on it's way to out producing all my other computers combined by a factor of 2. :-)



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