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And I do agree with you, and always have actually, we NEED to do the analysis, because this IS a Science Project! Yes the money was gotten to prove that DC was possible, but the idea was that DC could be done for Seti.

Ok, who here have the qualifications they need to help them?

Eric said:

The requirements for helping with the candidate identification are probably a bit harder to find. We really need a scientific programmer with SQL database experience and a strong understanding of statistics, or a physicist/astronomer/mathematician with a strong C++ programming background and database experience. It would be difficult to accomplish much in less than 15 hours a week. Again, any volunteers, feel free contact me.

So, raise your hand and chime in. I have already done, I'm waiting for Eric to send me some material to let me find out if I have the proper qualifications for the task (understanding of theoretical statistics and SQL/databases), which I hope I have, so I can help out.

So come on here, all you qualified people out there, you C++ wizards, you database experts, time to chime in!

Reckon I should submit my resume? But unfortunately, I'm a unix System Administrator, not a developer.

Reckon I should submit my resume? But unfortunately, I'm a unix System Administrator, not a developer.

Don't the Seti Servers use some form of Unix? I think they could use you!

Reckon I should submit my resume? But unfortunately, I'm a unix System Administrator, not a developer.

If you can deal with the likes of Ed, Vi, and Ted, then yes I think you should put your 4 cents in. Anybody who is at the technical level you are at, could fairly easily adapt to other disciplines at the same academic level. You've already got your Sergeants stripes as a mod, any application to be an Officer is going to be taken seriously.

He's busy with exams the next week (yes, he also has classes and students!) and the 5.18 is about to be launched over at Beta, but he will look into all the suggestions, he has got so far.

But he knows that it's important to "Meet & Greet", which I know he does, even when he doesn't really have the time. He has also dealt with a lot of the moderator problems with implementing new code, so all moderator actions now is out in the open, nobody can hide or do weird moderation, which we also needed, so I'll say, all in all he has made a huge impact on the project and the board lately. And he does address the relevant critics people have raised. So please give him a little space. He knows all those things, and he is trying, but he is only a human being and he has a private life also to live.

Whoa there girl, else we'll have to buy him a pedestal!!

But to be serious, Eric has earned himself and the project mega brownie points in these forums recently, and the open-ness and clarity has really been a breath of fresh air. We know he does what he can within the limitations that he has to work with, and it IS appreciated. I think he knows that despite the various ups & downs.

If only there was a further way I could help I would gladly do so, but I don't have the funds nor the technical expertise needed.

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

Actually not. No, I'm not kissing his behind and I don't drink his bathwater, but it was pretty clear to all here, how I felt about the project and it's administration back when the moderators were biased and the admin to look after them seemed to be for sale, and how I percieved the project in general stating that I would never lift one finger for it again.


And pedestals are not good to sit on, they are very easy to fall down from. ;-)

Actually not. No, I'm not kissing his behind and I don't drink his bathwater, but it was pretty clear to all here, how I felt about the project and it's administration back when the moderators were biased and the admin to look after them seemed to be for sale, and how I percieved the project in general stating that I would never lift one finger for it again.

But then came Eric. His mature and nice way of addressing people and his integrity won me back, his responses to me were nice and polite, and he did respond! So when Pappa asked me to join in actively in the donation drive, and I asked Eric about how bad things were and he gave me an honest answer, I decided to enter, and I am working on different things right now.

And I'll be happy to help out with the scientific analysis of the returned WU's and I'm looking forward to receive that material Eric will send me, to take a look at it and see if I'm able to help out.

And pedestals are not good to sit on, they are very easy to fall down from. ;-)

Nice Statment there Fuzzy.....

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

I still think what we'd also need would be some press coverage for SAH, some reports in TV science shows and such and spread the word that SAH needs help. I guess most people here are rather technically oriented, but aren't there people with some press contacts at work or their friends? If not maybe a promo-mail-to-your-favourite-science-mag-action could do the job?

I really can't see why a project like SAH is not worth a 10 minute report and we might even see the SAH crew and infrastructure@work ;)

In return there will hopefully be new members, more donations and maybe even the magazines might support SAH with a donation.

What does the rest think?

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

Enigma, as far as I can grab from the responses of the team they got it and try to implement it. But the real problem is what to do now if they don't have the funding to keep the service up AND do the improvements fast.

I see your point, but it won't help to repeat it over and over if the guys at SAH have no proper funding. They need more donations, marketing and some press coverage (hopefully that laptop theft thing might generate some news, but even that SAH is in trouble IS worthwile news for science mags and science TV shows - which hopefully results in some revenue). Even posting here takes his share of time and they are just a few guys, so they have not the time to casre about marketing probably which results in only relying on donations.

What we can do is get them some funding by donating ourselves or getting them some press coverage and I am sure we will have our results online in no time. That honour badge is no bad idea either or a "race" who manages to make the highest donation.

Enigma, as far as I can grab from the responses of the team they got it and try to implement it. But the real problem is what to do now if they don't have the funding to keep the service up AND do the improvements fast.

I see your point, but it won't help to repeat it over and over if the guys at SAH have no proper funding. They need more donations, marketing and some press coverage (hopefully that laptop theft thing might generate some news, but even that SAH is in trouble IS worthwile news for science mags and science TV shows - which hopefully results in some revenue). Even posting here takes his share of time and they are just a few guys, so they have not the time to casre about marketing probably which results in only relying on donations.

What we can do is get them some funding by donating ourselves or getting them some press coverage and I am sure we will have our results online in no time. That honour badge is no bad idea either or a "race" who manages to make the highest donation.

Thanks for the response MAC, point taken. I am not trying to harp (but i probably sound like that now) so i will pipe down (on the points i have raised). I believe have more than made my point clear, and i think the members are now looking for more creative ways of raising captial (human and $) for the project to progress and 'stay alive' at the same time.

As for me, well i am not a coder (i only dabble). I'm a Network guy... (CISCO data comms), so i may not be able to contribute technically. However i will talk to my team and get a "SETI NEEDS HELP LOGO" on our home page linking back to the SETI@HOME donations URL.

In fact if we could get EVERY TEAM to plaster a SETI NEEDS HELP logo on their homepage it would certainly raise awareness as many crunchers may not visit the forums or read the stickies.... Just a thought. Is there any way to target team captains??

In fact if we could get EVERY TEAM to plaster a SETI NEEDS HELP logo on their homepage it would certainly raise awareness as many crunchers may not visit the forums or read the stickies.... Just a thought. Is there any way to target team captains??

Yes, a donation list for individuals (who should be able to stay anonymous if they want, though) and teams would be a great idea. There could even be a third category - companies. I wouldn't be surprised if companies like Dell, Alienware, Cisco, whatever would love to donate some money to stay on top of that list (which could be on the left side, leaving space for ad banners on the right).

If a student manages to generate over a million dollars from his "million dollar homepage" I don't see how a strong community could fail in raising the missing 300k $ with at least some effort.

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

Heh, I really think alienware ads here would not only be funny as hell, but also profitable for both sides ;)

No one working for alienware here on this boards that could arrange something in case Eric/team give their ok?

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Ok, have sent the mail to the "nano" editorial staff, will keep you updated if I get any response. To be successfull we need a multiplyer - any people from all over the world up to mail to their favourite science mag, too? Or even better people with personal contacts to the editorial staff of a science mag or newspaper with a science page or something similar?

It would be probably a good idea to ask the editorial staffs the mails are sent to, to forward them to other editorial staffs. And it would be helpful to know about the missing notebook, this would for sure also generate some press coverage.

Really wondering how much power a community has, are we able to achieve something together?