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Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 465666 - Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 17:54:01 UTC There're loads of WU's to get at LHC at the moment, so open up your floodgates in case you have closed them. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 465666 ·

KB7RZF Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9555 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2	Message 465668 - Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 17:55:49 UTC Right now: Up, 37137 workunits to crunch 44069 workunits in progress 49 concurrent connections Get um while there hot!!! :-) ID: 465668 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 465693 - Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 19:21:19 UTC And still: Up, 31179 workunits to crunch 45293 workunits in progress 48 concurrent connections "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 465693 ·

BillHyland Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Apr 04 Posts: 907 Credit: 5,764,172 RAC: 0	Message 465705 - Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 19:48:03 UTC - in response to Message 465693. And still: Up, 31179 workunits to crunch 45293 workunits in progress 48 concurrent connections Does LHC@Home have optimized applications? ID: 465705 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 465716 - Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 20:05:23 UTC - in response to Message 465705. Last modified: 25 Nov 2006, 20:07:28 UTC And still: Up, 31179 workunits to crunch 45293 workunits in progress 48 concurrent connections Does LHC@Home have optimized applications? Short and sweet: No. They only allow their stock app over there, the calculations need to be very accurate, that's why it's not open source. The calculations are used to predict a particle's way through the cyclotron, and since it's high energy physics they're dealing with at Cern, a particle in the wrong lane will cause a little more than a hole in the wall, if you get my meaning. ;-) A good part of the corners of France and Switzerland could be wiped out... "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 465716 ·

KB7RZF Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9555 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2	Message 465726 - Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 20:40:15 UTC And now: Up, 27880 workunits to crunch 46344 workunits in progress 57 concurrent connections ID: 465726 ·

Astro Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0	Message 465742 - Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 21:11:07 UTC I've preempted my Seti data collection on Simon's new app to load up as much as possible on LHC. I figure, seti will allways be around (well, maybe not always, but you get the point). ID: 465742 ·

KB7RZF Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9555 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2	Message 465746 - Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 21:12:18 UTC - in response to Message 465742. I've preempted my Seti data collection on Simon's new app to load up as much as possible on LHC. I figure, seti will allways be around (well, maybe not always, but you get the point). I did the same thing, suspended all other projects and running as much LHC as I can. :-) ID: 465746 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 466024 - Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 1:29:37 UTC - in response to Message 465742. Last modified: 26 Nov 2006, 1:30:23 UTC I've preempted my Seti data collection on Simon's new app to load up as much as possible on LHC. I figure, seti will allways be around (well, maybe not always, but you get the point). I usually had LHC suspended, but when I found out they planned to work again, I resumed it, and even it has given me a lot of messages in my log, I had my gate open for them, and now my long term debt is keeping me with LHC WU's till they run out. Yay! :-D Update: Up, 18193 workunits to crunch 48728 workunits in progress 47 concurrent connections "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 466024 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 466118 - Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 3:48:23 UTC Last modified: 26 Nov 2006, 3:53:06 UTC For those who have downloaded a lot of LHC WU's, be prepared to see your RAC drop because of this, because they don't export xml stats at LHC, haven't done for a while and nobody can say when they will start doing it again. Take a look at this thread: http://lhcathome.cern.ch/forum_thread.php?id=2276 And there's a bug over there which makes multiple instances of your hosts, so it's a good idea have them merged. See this thread: http://lhcathome.cern.ch/forum_thread.php?id=2273 Current status: Up, 14530 workunits to crunch 49523 workunits in progress 40 concurrent connections But again, be prepared to only see your stats on your result page and in your BOINC manager, you won't see them in your sig for an unknown time. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 466118 ·

N/A Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 01 Posts: 3718 Credit: 93,649 RAC: 0	Message 466122 - Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 3:54:18 UTC - in response to Message 466118. First and formost, Hiya, Fuzz. Shouldn't users crunch first and then merge hosts once the credits start rolling in? Or is LHC getting overwhelmed with new hosts? I don't "do" LHC (no PowerPC), so I dunno what's going on there... ID: 466122 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 466128 - Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 4:05:07 UTC - in response to Message 466122. First and formost, Hiya, Fuzz. Shouldn't users crunch first and then merge hosts once the credits start rolling in? Or is LHC getting overwhelmed with new hosts? I don't "do" LHC (no PowerPC), so I dunno what's going on there... Hiya NA and hb for what's left of it. It doesn't matter when you merge. I have just (again) merged about 300 hosts and there's nothing to see on my result page http://lhcathome.cern.ch/results.php?userid=6547 And as you can see, it has already generated 3 extra hosts, because I have updated my account since I merged. http://lhcathome.cern.ch/show_user.php?userid=6547 They don't have a Mac app over there, so unless you have a Windows computer hidden somewhere on your desk, it's in vain. http://lhcathome.cern.ch/forum_thread.php?id=2355 "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 466128 ·

N/A Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 01 Posts: 3718 Credit: 93,649 RAC: 0	Message 466136 - Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 4:12:31 UTC - in response to Message 466128. 300 hosts? Them's braggin' rights !-) ID: 466136 ·

KB7RZF Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9555 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2	Message 466140 - Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 4:18:11 UTC Currently: Up, 13555 workunits to crunch 49593 workunits in progress 46 concurrent connections ID: 466140 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 466162 - Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 4:32:27 UTC - in response to Message 466136. 300 hosts? Them's braggin' rights !-) Sadly it's only one, I think I've had about 1500 ghosts of my computer. I don't know how many actually, I haven't bothered to count how many there's on one page, I only click "select all" and do that until they all are merged. I have merged many times. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 466162 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 466356 - Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 15:51:46 UTC Last modified: 26 Nov 2006, 15:53:26 UTC And, gone: Server Status Up, out of work 40381 workunits in progress 46 concurrent connections And check your computers and have all the ghost computers merged. I have 14 now already, and a new one is generated every time my client is connecting to the database, which is pretty often seen from the log. And again, they don't export xml stats and can't say when they'll start doing again. From their main site: 22.11.2006 13:21 UTC More news on LHC@home server support: it is currently planned to have the migration to Queen Mary College effective in January 2007. Until then, very little admin effort is available and work units will be available from the project only intermittently. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 466356 ·

Peter Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Mar 06 Posts: 17 Credit: 73,164 RAC: 0	Message 466379 - Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 16:34:49 UTC - in response to Message 466356. [quote]And, gone: Server Status Up, out of work 40381 workunits in progress 46 concurrent connections And check your computers and have all the ghost computers merged. I have 14 now already, and a new one is generated every time my client is connecting to the database, which is pretty often seen from the log. And again, they don't export xml stats and can't say when they'll start doing again. Hey Fuzzy, I had the same problem with ghost computers several months ago and corrected it by using the following instructions. "I figured out what the problem is, at least in my case and how to correct it. This may work for you too. In my case the computer host ID # is not getting passed to the client. 1) You can verify that this is your problem too by checking your client_state.xml file. Look for the section for LHCathome then find the line that states the <hostid>xxxxxx</hostid>. If you have value of 0 for the ID# then this is what causes it to keep making new hosts. Now exit the text editor without saving! 2) If you want to fix this shut down Boinc. 3) Go to your account page here at the project and click on View computers then write down the host number from the most recent one there. 4) Go back and open client_state.xml.file with a text editor and replace the 0 with the number that you wrote down. 5) Save the file. 6) Restart Boinc Hope this helps! Peter ID: 466379 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 466762 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 4:59:55 UTC - in response to Message 466379. Hey Fuzzy, I had the same problem with ghost computers several months ago and corrected it by using the following instructions. "I figured out what the problem is, at least in my case and how to correct it. This may work for you too. In my case the computer host ID # is not getting passed to the client. 1) You can verify that this is your problem too by checking your client_state.xml file. Look for the section for LHCathome then find the line that states the <hostid>xxxxxx</hostid>. If you have value of 0 for the ID# then this is what causes it to keep making new hosts. Now exit the text editor without saving! 2) If you want to fix this shut down Boinc. 3) Go to your account page here at the project and click on View computers then write down the host number from the most recent one there. 4) Go back and open client_state.xml.file with a text editor and replace the 0 with the number that you wrote down. 5) Save the file. 6) Restart Boinc Hope this helps! Peter Thanks Peter. :-) I checked the hostid and yes, it was 0, so I edited the client_state.xml with the number of my computer over there, and lo and behold, I still have only one computer over there, no new ghost hosts have been generated. Have you posted this fix to that bug on the board over there? If not then I think you should, because this is really genius. So now I have a RAC on 204.56 over there because of the merged computers! LOL It's only sad they don't export the stats. ;-D "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 466762 ·

John McLeod VII Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0	Message 467176 - Posted: 28 Nov 2006, 0:02:14 UTC - in response to Message 466762. Hey Fuzzy, I had the same problem with ghost computers several months ago and corrected it by using the following instructions. "I figured out what the problem is, at least in my case and how to correct it. This may work for you too. In my case the computer host ID # is not getting passed to the client. 1) You can verify that this is your problem too by checking your client_state.xml file. Look for the section for LHCathome then find the line that states the <hostid>xxxxxx</hostid>. If you have value of 0 for the ID# then this is what causes it to keep making new hosts. Now exit the text editor without saving! 2) If you want to fix this shut down Boinc. 3) Go to your account page here at the project and click on View computers then write down the host number from the most recent one there. 4) Go back and open client_state.xml.file with a text editor and replace the 0 with the number that you wrote down. 5) Save the file. 6) Restart Boinc Hope this helps! Peter Thanks Peter. :-) I checked the hostid and yes, it was 0, so I edited the client_state.xml with the number of my computer over there, and lo and behold, I still have only one computer over there, no new ghost hosts have been generated. Have you posted this fix to that bug on the board over there? If not then I think you should, because this is really genius. So now I have a RAC on 204.56 over there because of the merged computers! LOL It's only sad they don't export the stats. ;-D Unfortunately, I have a bunch of computers where the host ID is NOT 0, and they still generate excess computers. BOINC WIKI ID: 467176 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 467190 - Posted: 28 Nov 2006, 0:20:51 UTC - in response to Message 467176. Hey Fuzzy, I had the same problem with ghost computers several months ago and corrected it by using the following instructions. "I figured out what the problem is, at least in my case and how to correct it. This may work for you too. In my case the computer host ID # is not getting passed to the client. 1) You can verify that this is your problem too by checking your client_state.xml file. Look for the section for LHCathome then find the line that states the <hostid>xxxxxx</hostid>. If you have value of 0 for the ID# then this is what causes it to keep making new hosts. Now exit the text editor without saving! 2) If you want to fix this shut down Boinc. 3) Go to your account page here at the project and click on View computers then write down the host number from the most recent one there. 4) Go back and open client_state.xml.file with a text editor and replace the 0 with the number that you wrote down. 5) Save the file. 6) Restart Boinc Hope this helps! Peter Thanks Peter. :-) I checked the hostid and yes, it was 0, so I edited the client_state.xml with the number of my computer over there, and lo and behold, I still have only one computer over there, no new ghost hosts have been generated. Have you posted this fix to that bug on the board over there? If not then I think you should, because this is really genius. So now I have a RAC on 204.56 over there because of the merged computers! LOL It's only sad they don't export the stats. ;-D Unfortunately, I have a bunch of computers where the host ID is NOT 0, and they still generate excess computers. Hmmm... Weird. I just checked my computer and I still only have one computer, but I now have a ghost WU. :-/ Maybe time to set to No New Work? At least we know that nothing will happen over there until after they have moved to Queen Mary's. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 467190 ·

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