I admire what you are doing. I would just like to see the classic seti@home graphics. They were restful and probably did not use up as much computer power and left more power for crunching numbers. I know I can stop the bar from weaving, but then the printed information weaves. Further it just does not look pretty. There are already a dozen ways to present the graphics, but I believe a substantial number of people would prefer the old classic seti@home way. The advertised "heads up" option is a step in the right direction but (1) the option does not seem to exist in either 3.2 or version 4 and (2) it is not as good as the classic SETI design anyhow.

This has been requested several times, and I second the motion.

Indeed, it looks like the "heads-up" display isn't working. I do see the graphics, but no text...

And by the way, after the "update" command I have to shut down BOINC and start it again to see the new graphics style.

I would also like the clasic seti display, not the weaving ,sub standard graphics bionic one, bye.

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I would also like the clasic seti display, not the weaving ,sub standard graphics bionic one, bye.

> I would also like the clasic seti display, not the weaving ,sub standard
> graphics bionic one, bye.

My 2 cents ... The FIRST thing I do is disable the BOINC screen saver. I have no use for the graphics. They serve no purpose. The number crunching is all that matters.

I have my general prefs set to "Do work only after computer is idle for 1 minutes" and I overide this to "Run Always" on computers that can run it all the time.

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> I would also like the clasic seti display, not the weaving ,sub standard
> graphics bionic one, bye.
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It is not hard to stop the weaving and bobbing. Just set the allowed motion to 0 in the S@H settings in your account. Update, and there should be no motion.

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I would like the 2D screensaver put back in. I find the 3d one to be slow, unatractive, and hard to read. I have tweaked it to the point that I can tolerate it, but I dont' know how much longer though.

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I would like the 2D screensaver put back in. I find the 3d one to be slow, unatractive, and hard to read. I have tweaked it to the point that I can tolerate it, but I dont' know how much longer though.

I agree. The new screensaver is wildly unattractive and major step back. Please bring back the old graphics!

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I would like the 2D screensaver put back in. I find the 3d one to be slow, unatractive, and hard to read. I have tweaked it to the point that I can tolerate it, but I dont' know how much longer though.

I agree. The new screensaver is wildly unattractive and major step back. Please bring back the old graphics!

Check out Screen Saver & Graphics Display - SETI@Home Classic (Emulation)

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One thing I think everyone is forgetting is that the classic SETI was a "screensaver that happened to do science in the background". BOINC is a project that allows you to do science work on your computer while also (if the project offers it) showing a screen saver. Not all projects that use BOINC even offer a screensaver, and the ones that do have only a trimmed down screensaver to minimize it's impact on the actual number crunching. In other words, BOINC is *not* a screensaver program like the classic seti. It is a real distributed computing system designed from the ground up to allow users to share their computers unused resources with scientific projects that need more computer resources than they have available. As has been mentioned already, many users of BOINC turn the screensaver feature off entirely in order to maximize the amount of cpu cycles available for the various projects.
If you want to use BOINC as a screensaver, that's fine, but the above may explain why you won't see as detailed a screensaver as you had with the original seti classic. And yes, the new screensaver has been highly optimized to use less resources than the original screensaver so it's impact on the science is less than the original.

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One thing I think everyone is forgetting is that the classic SETI was a "screensaver that happened to do science in the background".

Yeees :P That was the core, but I wonder how it's possible for everyone to forget about this if so many people still recalls it?

Not all projects that use BOINC even offer a screensaver

And too bad for them. Sad is that such a good idea is getting to being forgotten.

As has been mentioned already, many users of BOINC turn the screensaver feature off entirely in order to maximize the amount of cpu cycles available for the various projects.

Many but not all.
There are two groups of people involved in SETI@Home:
First of them are interested only on "number crunching" and rankings. They would turn their workstations into scientific clusters processing data 24 hours a day if they only could! :P
But there are the others also, which aren't interested in "who is the best helper" [or maybe "who have the more powerfull computer and net connection to get those sky-hittin' ranks" ;J]. They want just to help on the way they could - by making one of their screen-savers useful for scientists.
Which of these groups you think is greater? What would it be if that group were missing? Even if it wouldn't be the "power horse" of the whole SETI project, would it be good to get that group lost?
Time to consider this, maybe it's time to back to the roots, until you still have time for thinking.

If you want to use BOINC as a screensaver, that's fine, but the above may explain why you won't see as detailed a screensaver as you had with the original seti classic.

Seems to me like discriminating of the latter group of people. I wonder how would it be if the above phrase would sound like that: "If you want to use BOINC without screensaver, that's fine, but the above may explain why you won't have that Fourier analyser - we don't have time to implement it also in non-graphic version." ;P

I still hear glories about new BOINC client [mostly from the former group] and assurances that "it's better and it's a step forward". But it seems for me like a cheap propaganda: how one could call this "new graphics" a "step forward"? To me it is a step backward if it looks and behaves worse than the old faithful Classic client.

And yes, the new screensaver has been highly optimized to use less resources than the original screensaver so it's impact on the science is less than the original.

Huh... use less resources... demanding a graphic card with 3D acceleration, rotating graph and full solid 3D fonts instead of flat 2D system font? Maybe people not familiar with 3D graphics programming could believe this, but not me.

SasQ - you certainly are all over the board, aren't you?

You are entitled to your own opinions, but this is the place for Q&A, Questions and Answers. If you want to debate your opinions with everyone else, you should do it in the Number Crunching forum or SETI@Home Science forum.

Otherwise, you are abusing rule number 4:

No messages whose only intention is to hijack a thread (which is interpreted by me as someone who only wants to debate THEIR views)

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SasQ - you certainly are all over the board, aren't you?

I saw other threads about the same subject that relates with mine, so I've expressed my oppinion also [my small "vote" solidar with the others]. Looks like I'm the one who connected these topics.

You are entitled to your own opinions, but this is the place for Q&A, Questions and Answers.

I've posted here suggested by the title of this section: "Wish list".

Otherwise, you are abusing rule number 4:
No messages whose only intention is to hijack a thread (which is interpreted by me as someone who only wants to debate THEIR views)

Each of us has good intentions, but it isn't always possible to get understanded appropriately. I didn't want to hijack anything, only to express my oppinion over this changes and add my vote for other similar votes [to say "I'm with them"]. On the other hand I see that the new client's defenders trying to force their opinions also, so I don't know why I'm different. But if I did something wrong, I'm sorry for this, I didn't meant. If I can't tell what IMO is wrong and how to improve it, I won't be bothering you any more. Bye.

Whoever made the decision to use the 3d card for the screensaver and not have the option for a 2d graphical display needs to be dragged out into an alley and shot.

Well, maybe given a shot of whiskey to clear his head, anyway.

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It is possible to:

Stop the screen saver from spinning about. Use the custom settings and set the angle ranges to 0.

Use much less CPU. One of the settings is the max percentage of CPU time used by the screen saver. I have mine set to 5%. It is very choppy on slow computers, but it does OK on faster ones.

It is not possible for the user to fix the fuzzy text.

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Rejoined Seti@Home and was shocked. The obnoxious 3D motion graphics make me seasick. Will not run Seti@Home until we have the classic screensaver mode back.

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Rejoined Seti@Home and was shocked. The obnoxious 3D motion graphics make me seasick. Will not run Seti@Home until we have the classic screensaver mode back.

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It is entirely possible to turn off the motion. On this web site -> your account -> S@H settings -> custom. Change the angle ranges to 0.

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I liked seti classic.

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Most humbly.

I liked seti classic.

Yeah I think alot of us liked Classic. The problem is it just ran out of money. The US Government decided to do other things with its money, then so did all the other Corporate sponsors. Finally it came down to just people like you and I supporting with our spare cash and finally even that ended. The Developers looked for a way to keep the project alive and Boinc came about . There are a bunch of other projects you can run under a basic platform and fortunately, from my point of view, Seti is one of them.
Now unfortunately the Developers are asking for our cash again or Berkeley may cut Seti off. The people with the money just don't seem to think that ET is worth finding! I am hoping that the current request for donations works so we can keep crunching for Seti!

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