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Message 341218 - Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 13:31:13 UTC
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When checking credits via 'Computers on this account', they read :

Computer 1 = 103,620.41
Computer 2 = 97,330.60


Add these together and a credit score of 200 951.01

Credits on my account page state (and on the left):

Total credits = 187,544.86

(these are correct as of 14:30hrs GMT 18 June 2006)

Why is there a discrepancy???????

Which credit score is correct????????



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Message 341236 - Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 13:56:33 UTC

LT,

Hmmm, I just checked mine and the total is about 80 more than the sum of the individuals!!

Very Curious. Although I'd have to say my situation is preferable to yours! ;-)

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Message 341238 - Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 13:57:30 UTC

Probably both are caused by web side caching of the pages.
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Message 341245 - Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 14:07:45 UTC - in response to Message 341218.  
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When checking credits via 'Computers on this account', they read :

Computer 1 = 103,620.41
Computer 2 = 97,330.60


Add these together and a credit score of 200 951.01

Credits on my account page state (and on the left):

Total credits = 187,544.86

(these are correct as of 14:30hrs GMT 18 June 2006)

Why is there a discrepancy???????

Which credit score is correct????????



It gets even worse. You also have 2 inactive hosts that should contribute to your total credit:

The new total is 219.238...

This doesn't look right.

Regards Hans

P.S: At a difference of over 30.000, and considering Lord Tedric's RAC, I don't think that any website caching is responsible for this....
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Message 341247 - Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 14:10:35 UTC

KK,

I took the liberty of checking yours and your total is running a little behind as well.

Your suggestion the reason is something simple like precaching the pages makes sense, although I fear we may have created a new "controversy storm" here. ;-)

OHHH NOOO, X is cheating because their Total credit is higher than the sum of the Hosts! :-)

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Message 341248 - Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 14:12:00 UTC - in response to Message 341238.  

Probably both are caused by web side caching of the pages.


I would accept this if it appeared to be a relatively recent ocurrence,
but I have noticed this being the case for at least 12 months or more!
The gap is increasing by very small amounts over time.


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Message 341249 - Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 14:12:44 UTC - in response to Message 341238.  

Probably both are caused by web side caching of the pages.

Can't be the case with Lord Tedric, as caching could only give you less credit until you hit F5, but I still see his data under the Avatar:
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Same at his account page and the bigger amounts are on his puters, and I don't look him up that often;)

It could possibly take a while to add the values up, if they are stored in a different data sheet, but with a RAC of 396 the last addition had to be quite a while ago.
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Message 341256 - Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 14:18:32 UTC - in response to Message 341249.  

with a RAC of 396 the last addition had to be quite a while ago.


Addition?
Do you mean returned w/u?

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Message 341260 - Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 14:22:02 UTC

Extra credit is easily explained by having deleted a computer from the account.
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Message 341264 - Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 14:25:32 UTC - in response to Message 341260.  

Extra credit is easily explained by having deleted a computer from the account.

it would *if* his total credits from the machines added up to *less* than his published credits. They add up to *more*!
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Message 341267 - Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 14:27:16 UTC - in response to Message 341260.  

Extra credit is easily explained by having deleted a computer from the account.


True, but in this case their total is running behind the sum, and in mine I have no deleted machines to account for.

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Message 341342 - Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 17:00:21 UTC
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Mine too is running behind, only 120. Do Seti send their files only once a day, could this explain some of the missing credits? Sorry mine is correct it is my sig which is wrong, so is there any missing computers?
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Message 341593 - Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 21:19:17 UTC - in response to Message 341256.  

with a RAC of 396 the last addition had to be quite a while ago.


Addition?
Do you mean returned w/u?


No. As I don't know how, when and where the values of the puters are added up to the value of the user, it could lead to some backlog if it's done only sporadic in a different data base. But I doubt that it's so.

Like this:
19:30
Host 1: 110c
Host 2: 130c
Addition (made 19:29): 240c

20:30
Host 1: 120c
Host 2: 180c
Addition (made 19:29): 240c

And so forth 'til the next addition. But as i said, I doubt that this is the procedure, and it has to be made far too seldom, do get this difference with a RAC of 396 (388 by now)
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Message 341739 - Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 1:59:00 UTC
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Yes, this look highly irregular. The caching mentioned earlier as a possible cause is server-side caching so even forcing your browser to refresh wouldn't help. However there is no way server-side caching could be responsible for this big of a difference.

As for how/when credits are added together: The computer totals aren't used to calculate a user's total. Whenever credit is granted for a work unit it adds the granted total to the host's total, then to the user's total and then to the team's total (if they are on a team). They are all independent of one another. So yeah... this is somewhat disturbing. I have deleted so many old hosts from my account that it would be hard to tell if this is happening to me. Can other people who haven't deleted old hosts check to see if this is happening on their accounts as well? This may be a bug somewhere.
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Message 341746 - Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 2:05:10 UTC - in response to Message 341739.  

Can other people who haven't deleted old hosts check to see if this is happening on their accounts as well? This may be a bug somewhere.

My five add up exactly.
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Message 342071 - Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 8:20:21 UTC - in response to Message 341739.  


As for how/when credits are added together: The computer totals aren't used to calculate a user's total. Whenever credit is granted for a work unit it adds the granted total to the host's total, then to the user's total and then to the team's total (if they are on a team). They are all independent of one another. So yeah... this is somewhat disturbing. I have deleted so many old hosts from my account that it would be hard to tell if this is happening to me. Can other people who haven't deleted old hosts check to see if this is happening on their accounts as well? This may be a bug somewhere.


I have emailed Eric Korpela, lets' see what comes of that!


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Message 342076 - Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 8:37:32 UTC

This is even stranger!!!!!
(currently) As a team of ONE, you would expect that my team credits would be the same as the individual total - this is also not the case.



Something is not quite right with the way that totals are added together.


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Message 342080 - Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 8:41:48 UTC - in response to Message 342076.  

This is even stranger!!!!!
(currently) As a team of ONE, you would expect that my team credits would be the same as the individual total - this is also not the case.

You can't expect this, only if you founded your team befor the first credit granting. Otherwise your team has less then your personal account. But there is no way you can get more credits for a team then accumulated by the (lone) member, as is the case with you. Strange things are happening...
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Message 342100 - Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 10:18:21 UTC - in response to Message 342076.  

This is even stranger!!!!!
(currently) As a team of ONE, you would expect that my team credits would be the same as the individual total - this is also not the case.

Something is not quite right with the way that totals are added together.

Did someone else join your team, get a few points in it, and then leave?

Points do not leave a team once accumulated, so if someone was a member even for a few hours, gained a few credits, your team would have gotten them, and then they dropped off.



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Message 342111 - Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 10:50:45 UTC - in response to Message 342100.  

Did someone else join your team, get a few points in it, and then leave?

Points do not leave a team once accumulated, so if someone was a member even for a few hours, gained a few credits, your team would have gotten them, and then they dropped off.

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My understanding of this was that members (of teams) points were transient, i.e. they belonged to the individual not the team!

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