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Message 396219 - Posted: 13 Aug 2006, 2:36:30 UTC

What, does Seti need to post 'heating degree days'? But the effect is real. That and cats.
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Message 422826 - Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 13:19:36 UTC - in response to Message 395604.  

Based on the graph below, I wonder if a bunch of people (strikers or whatnot) have decided to rejoin SETI@Home in correlation to the arrival of Intel's Core 2 Duo processors...



Snacks for thought... more like crackers if this "cracks" you up. ;-) If it's something entirely coincidental in terms of time frame with conjunction of a graph correction that may have taken place, then nevermind.

Either way, things are looking good since I noticed my RAC rank dropped this month. :/ That means, many people are either joining or existing users' are getting faster computers or it's just one big fluke.



If this was already discussed somewhere, I appologize. Please just post a link to that thread to assist drunkards like me at this time. LOL
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Message 422843 - Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 13:59:36 UTC

That is a BOINC combined chart and does not reflect Seti stats.

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Message 422852 - Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 14:19:17 UTC

...and have a look at this message from Willy.

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Message 422928 - Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 18:44:28 UTC

So maybe that'll mean that that graph will return to the low value (about 240,000) just as suddenly four weeks after the jump (to about 323,000), when none of those (really inactives) returns to Boinc (?)
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Message 517299 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 6:10:20 UTC - in response to Message 422826.  

Based on the graph below, are people striking again???



I know I haven't been crunching work units for a long while due various reasons not related to SETI@Home.

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Message 517343 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 12:26:09 UTC

I love the irony in people's argument about using their computers to help global warming :p

Global warming is a practical certainty, any kind of mass and distributed computing in the field will really aid in its progress rather then do anything about it. With all the extra power that is needed compared between computers idling and running full power 24/7, the impact on global warming is the exact opposite of what they think they are putting their systems at work for.

Not to mention that the global warming and climate related projects are to establish something that is already known and only refuted because there are big money and power interests involved, I don't see how doing climate modeling is going to help stop global warming, the only thing you can get out of it is how fast and how bad things will be where and when, and then its still highly unreliable, that together with the extra damage you do to nature doing this mass computing.

The people that go to F@H and such I can understand a bit.

But I refuse to give any amount of money or resources to the medical establishments, even if its a university study on the subject, they are still related to the big pharma giants and I don't want anything to do with them.

Pharmacutical companies are making craploads of money by overpricing products up to a degree of 500x their actual value and exclusivly patent the products. Leaving certain cures to be either an absolute drain on social security establishments or simply making them unaffordable for people who's life could well be saved by the medicines.

They also deliberatly bring out medicines that have heavy sideeffects and NEVER cure anything. Pharmacutical companies have true cures for quite a few things that plague mankind, but they make more money by bringing out a fake cure that just delays the result of the decease.

Seti on the other hand is a strugling group which I love to help, both because I believe there is something out there and because I like and trust the people running it.

If you think we'll be able to stop global warming as long as the same politicians run the world and that any amount of computing will help stop it from happening rather then speed it up because of the terrawatts of extra power consumed with all the CPU time, be my guest to live a life of ignorance.
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Message 517551 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 22:18:23 UTC - in response to Message 517343.  

I don't see how doing climate modeling is going to help stop global warming, the only thing you can get out of it is how fast and how bad things will be where and when, and then its still highly unreliable, that together with the extra damage you do to nature doing this mass computing.


This can be argued two different ways.

First off, I don't recall CPDN stating that their goal was to end global warming by doing climate modeling, but to simply better understand weather patterns so we can become better at predicting the weather itself (though somebody can correct me if I'm wrong on that).

Or second, even if they are looking into ending global warming through computer modeling, wouldn't looking for a solution while still using technology be better than not looking at all? Granted, it may appear to be an exercise in futility, but there may be a possibility worth looking for... after all, we can't all go back to the stone ages and live like that for the rest of eternity (or until our own sun goes into Reg Giant [or even Supernova] stage and destroys Earth anyway). Technology has brought us so much, it'd be a shame to turn back now.
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Message 517611 - Posted: 15 Feb 2007, 0:28:23 UTC - in response to Message 517551.  

... after all, we can't all go back to the stone ages and live like that for the rest of eternity (or until our own sun goes into Reg Giant [or even Supernova] stage and destroys Earth anyway).

Our Sun is much too small to make a supernova. After passing through the red-giant stage (incidentally vaporizing the Earth) it will become a white dwarf: extremely hot but with insufficient mass to drive the fusion of heavier elements, it’s expected to spend the next few billion years quietly cooling down.
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Message 517781 - Posted: 15 Feb 2007, 11:41:01 UTC - in response to Message 517611.  

... after all, we can't all go back to the stone ages and live like that for the rest of eternity (or until our own sun goes into Reg Giant [or even Supernova] stage and destroys Earth anyway).

Our Sun is much too small to make a supernova. After passing through the red-giant stage (incidentally vaporizing the Earth) it will become a white dwarf: extremely hot but with insufficient mass to drive the fusion of heavier elements, it’s expected to spend the next few billion years quietly cooling down.


whether or not our sun goes supernova in the far future, we should have large colonies on Mars by the end of this century, so who cares about our sun going supernova and Earth is destroyed?! We'll survive! YEA!

In the near future, I can't wait for the mall in the space station! :P

hmm... I think I should start calling myself the Supernova Blonde on stage! lol

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Message 517855 - Posted: 15 Feb 2007, 17:48:20 UTC

Providing, we can build self-sustaining colonies, in other star-systems preferably, before we kill ourselves off, we might survive.

Lets not worry about the sun, that is too far into the future. We are perfectly capable of destroying ourselves before the sun dying becomes an issue. :(
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Message 517930 - Posted: 15 Feb 2007, 22:19:38 UTC - in response to Message 517781.  

whether or not our sun goes supernova in the far future, we should have large colonies on Mars by the end of this century, so who cares about our sun going supernova and Earth is destroyed?! We'll survive! YEA!

In the near future, I can't wait for the mall in the space station! :P

hmm... I think I should start calling myself the Supernova Blonde on stage! lol


The point being made was that if we stop using computers (or technology in general) now, to stop contributing to global warming, we won't ever have the technology to make it to Mars.

We know that our Sun going into Red Giant is many, MANY years in the future, but how will we ever advance if we stop advancement now? To make it to the future, we have to plan for it now - no matter how far off it may seem, it will be here before we know it, and without planning, we'll be caught dead. Literally.
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Message 517932 - Posted: 15 Feb 2007, 22:22:37 UTC - in response to Message 517855.  

Providing, we can build self-sustaining colonies, in other star-systems preferably, before we kill ourselves off, we might survive.

Lets not worry about the sun, that is too far into the future. We are perfectly capable of destroying ourselves before the sun dying becomes an issue. :(


Nobody was "worrying" about our Sun - the statement was that if we don't plan for the future now - no matter how distant, we'll never be ready to handle it. In perspective, this statement was made about our current global warming issues and using technology which destroys our environment.
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Message 518019 - Posted: 16 Feb 2007, 1:19:56 UTC - in response to Message 517781.  

... after all, we can't all go back to the stone ages and live like that for the rest of eternity (or until our own sun goes into Reg Giant [or even Supernova] stage and destroys Earth anyway).

Our Sun is much too small to make a supernova. After passing through the red-giant stage (incidentally vaporizing the Earth) it will become a white dwarf: extremely hot but with insufficient mass to drive the fusion of heavier elements, it’s expected to spend the next few billion years quietly cooling down.


whether or not our sun goes supernova in the far future, we should have large colonies on Mars by the end of this century, so who cares about our sun going supernova and Earth is destroyed?! We'll survive! YEA!

In the near future, I can't wait for the mall in the space station! :P

hmm... I think I should start calling myself the Supernova Blonde on stage! lol


Mars won't be far enough out as It's been said that even Mars will be engulfed, So We'd have to move somewhere else in the Milkyway Galaxy, As the Gas Gaints(all 4) moons are far enough away, But all are bathed in radiation from the planets they orbit around. So short of moving some planets, It would be wise to plan and have technology advance as future generations will need It for their very survival.
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