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SUPERBUBBA Send message Joined: 2 Feb 02 Posts: 42 Credit: 87,607 RAC: 0 |
Not getting any work units the last few day. Did the 3.20 update. still no work units. Reset progect. Still no work units. REBELLIOUS GAMES FOR REBELLIOUS GAMERS |
SUPERBUBBA Send message Joined: 2 Feb 02 Posts: 42 Credit: 87,607 RAC: 0 |
looking over my 3 PC's running BOINC all updated to 3.20. #3 has plenty of units. #2 has a few. #1 has no units and has not for day's! REBELLIOUS GAMES FOR REBELLIOUS GAMERS |
Norman Spalding Send message Joined: 23 Mar 04 Posts: 69 Credit: 292,095 RAC: 0 |
> Not getting any work units the last few day. Did the 3.20 update. still no > work units. Reset progect. Still no work units. > > > > > > > > > > REBELLIOUS GAMES FOR REBELLIOUS GAMERS > >Know how you feel. Did the reset--no go, I will continue using the classic why setti works out there problems...Norman |
Liberto [Valencia] Send message Joined: 24 Jul 01 Posts: 131 Credit: 29,008 RAC: 0 |
Welcome to the No units club, but do not worry, read the other posts, they are getting ready for the v4.0x and then we will get units - but first will have to download new v.4.xx |
Azathoth Send message Joined: 31 Dec 99 Posts: 1 Credit: 124,291 RAC: 0 |
Yeah...same thing here....they must still be having issues. |
kundor Send message Joined: 21 Aug 02 Posts: 1 Credit: 13,983 RAC: 0 |
Running 4.05. No units. Haven't had units for weeks. |
Heffed Send message Joined: 19 Mar 02 Posts: 1856 Credit: 40,736 RAC: 0 |
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Jeff Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 1 Credit: 18,857 RAC: 0 |
Running 4.05. Now that the server problems seem fixed things are running as advertised. I keep 4 days worth (been using SETI@Home since May 1999 and plan on downtime at Berkeley), and now when one WU finishes it uploads and I recieve a replacement download. Climate Perdiction is also running with no problems at 200 SETI/100 Climate Perdiction. Jeff Team LAMBCHOP |
RocketSteve Send message Joined: 15 Feb 00 Posts: 1 Credit: 10,107 RAC: 0 |
The move to BOINC has got to be the worst thing SETI@Home has decided to do. The User ID is unmemorable unlike the simple email account for the client. As someone who was in the top 1% of unit returners I now have no idea what the credit is all about and it's meaningless as other projects are involved. I hope that someone at SETI@Home takes note as the foums I have read reflect similar points. I have lost interest in the whole thing, along with many others! I made the effort to move all my PC's over to the new system but everytime I look the program is not processing units. SETI@Home may have gained more users but it was the core percentage that was returning units each day that made it work. It can't be in SETI's interest for other projects to use PC CPU time. If sponsors learn that SETI is losing the interest of the public unit processors they may reconsider their position in funding. |
JonBoy Send message Joined: 18 Jan 04 Posts: 16 Credit: 31,612 RAC: 0 |
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Heffed Send message Joined: 19 Mar 02 Posts: 1856 Credit: 40,736 RAC: 0 |
> Indeed, I doubt they will ever shut down the SETI@HOME CLassic, as it is so > simple and returns WU's. They will. And are you aware that the classic project just keeps sending out the same units over and over to keep people in work? Redundancy is always nice, but classic is way past the useful limit. |
JonBoy Send message Joined: 18 Jan 04 Posts: 16 Credit: 31,612 RAC: 0 |
Are you suggesting that the Seti@Home Classic merely recycles work units? I am sure that this is true to a certain extent, but not absolute. For instance, it may recycle the same unit 5 or so times, but BOINC does this at least 3 times in any event. Still, I am intrigued by your reply. I will try BOINC for a week to see if it can maintain stability & a work unit supply. If not, I am switching back to the CLASSIC for good. How much Gig or Virtual memory do you guys use (on average) to devote to a Project? Just after a ball park figure here..... |
Angstrom Send message Joined: 20 Sep 99 Posts: 205 Credit: 10,131 RAC: 0 |
> Are you suggesting that the Seti@Home Classic merely recycles work units? I am > sure that this is true to a certain extent, but not absolute. For instance, it > may recycle the same unit 5 or so times, but BOINC does this at least 3 times > in any event. I believe I read somewhere that the figure can be as high as 12 times for classic and after the first 2 or 3 it isnt to check the accuracy of the results but rather to keep crunchers in WU's. The BOINC 3 times is for validation only. If the project sticks to this principle it will mean that there are way too many crunchers for the volume of Seti work and it will be necessary to crunch for other projects. Astropulse if brought on line could to some extent reverse the situation. The truth of classic is that much (but not all) of the crunching serves no direct purpose and those CPU cycles would best be devoted to another cause. Angs |
darknite Send message Joined: 15 Oct 99 Posts: 1 Credit: 13,064 RAC: 0 |
Damn it where are my work units and why can't I get a straight explanation of the scoring. I've been running bionc for a few days and been buzzing through the WU muc faster than with classic but no progress. And my Bionc profile has me at alot let WU than I have done. this is weird stuff I want my money back. . . oh it was free damn |
Outcast3d Send message Joined: 20 Dec 00 Posts: 1 Credit: 17,850,671 RAC: 7 |
I think too many of you are missing the point of the BIONIC project. It is actually more efficient for your computer to run this program. Not only is it faster at processing the data and easier for them to implement new algorithms and updates to the program, but if SETI is in the process of gathering more data and don't have any data for us users to crunch at, then perhaps you can take part in another project such as Predictor@Home or Climateprediction.net. I find it annoying that some of the participants in these types of projects think that the program is for their personal gain. Although I do take pride in giving as much of my computer down time to the science community, I realize that being in the top 1% of users isn't what it's all about. Even if you are in the bottom 1%, you are contributing to the science. A friend of mine is in the top .015% with 92000+ WU done in 7 days (skibum@stampede.org), but even he says, "That should give the SETI folks some results to look over for a while". I'm not intending this as flame bait nor am I trying to be a troll, but just remember, you are volunteering your computer for the scientists to use to help them do THEIR research, not yours. If you don't know what the credit system is about, perhaps you should ask someone or read about it instead of throwing your arms up in frustration (Click here for more info on credit, and it's not meaningless). This is actually a better system anyway. I've had several work units that are completed in less than a minute, which raises my average. It is much better to just give credit based on pure CPU time rather than work units completed. Bottom line, if your more interested in how your computer compares to others, you should download a decent benchmarking program instead of using BIONIC as this kind of tool. And contributing to the various science projects involved with BIONIC far outweigh how many work units you've personally completed. And that's my $.02. |
davidjaymz Send message Joined: 5 Nov 03 Posts: 7 Credit: 51,502 RAC: 0 |
I can understand some peoples frustrations with the move to Boinc. They've gone from a system where they pretty much always had work units to a system which is still young. Out of the four Boinc Programs you could be running I think Seti has been strugling the most (although Predictor is down totally until they can fix their problems) but that still leaves other Projects to be working on. At the moment I'm signed up so that Climate Prediction gets most of my CPU time purely due to the size of its work unit. It gets 3hrs for every one Seti and LHC get. I'm still getting through enough of the SETI and LHC workunits that I feel i am helping their cause. On the side of Credits I think the problem with SETI comes from the fact you can only see your "total" credit or your "computer" credit. You can't see how much credit you've got for a workunit or how the other users in your triplet are scoring. I have a friend whose been running SETI for about a month and she is yet to recieve any credit scores. If the "pending credits" section was working she could check this and see what was happening. As it is currently she and many other users have to just sit there and assume their work is being counted. http://davidjaymz.com |
wolf to the max Send message Joined: 10 May 03 Posts: 13 Credit: 242,432 RAC: 0 |
And thanks to Outcast3d for those wise and, in my opinion at least, perfectly placed words. I couldn't have said it better! :-) "Live life to the max" |
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