I have the answer. Yesterday I hypothesized that there was an error in the transcription of the TV interview. I just went and listened to it again. In the TV interview he says that he saw the cursor move across the screen. So whoever typed 'I saw his hand move across the screen' was in error.

Whew....only if all discrepancies in the Cafe were so easily resolved.

Carry on! And don't call me Shirley.

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I have the answer. Yesterday I hypothesized that there was an error in the transcription of the TV interview. I just went and listened to it again. In the TV interview he says that he saw the cursor move across the screen. So whoever typed 'I saw his hand move across the screen' was in error.

Whew....only if all discrepancies in the Cafe were so easily resolved.

Carry on! And don't call me Shirley.

Damn transcriptionist should be flogged.

THANKS

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I have the answer. Yesterday I hypothesized that there was an error in the transcription of the TV interview. I just went and listened to it again. In the TV interview he says that he saw the cursor move across the screen. So whoever typed 'I saw his hand move across the screen' was in error.

Whew....only if all discrepancies in the Cafe were so easily resolved.

Carry on! And don't call me Shirley.

I take it then use accessed a remote desktop.

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I guess so. He said he found many computers with blank passwords. I don't doubt he was 'hacking' or illegally accessing these systems but the thought that he was accessing something with no passwrd protection, connected on DIALUP, at nasa, etc and that those systems just happened to contain incontrovertible proof of the existence of not just alien existence, but aliens ON EARTH and proof of a source of 'free energy' is laughable. Oh, don't forget, he saved none of this information. He didn't even buy a $10 disposable camera and photograph his screen. Now, I'm no computer scientist.....sounds like this boy got himself in a heap of trouble and is going to parlay himself into books and interviews.

The single greatest and most monumental discovery in the history of man and gosh darnit! He forgot to save anything. Awww shucks!

:-)

I guess so. He said he found many computers with blank passwords. I don't doubt he was 'hacking' or illegally accessing these systems but the thought that he was accessing something with no passwrd protection, connected on DIALUP, at nasa, etc and that those systems just happened to contain incontrovertible proof of the existence of not just alien existence, but aliens ON EARTH and proof of a source of 'free energy' is laughable. Oh, don't forget, he saved none of this information. He didn't even buy a $10 disposable camera and photograph his screen. Now, I'm no computer scientist.....sounds like this boy got himself in a heap of trouble and is going to parlay himself into books and interviews.

The single greatest and most monumental discovery in the history of man and gosh darnit! He forgot to save anything. Awww shucks!

:-)

A bumbling fool :) Not even screen shots..."CTRL+Print Scrn"

Wadda chooch!

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I think he said something about not being able to take or save the screens because the photos were flashing on and cycling too fast or something. So, he's smart enough to 'hack' the systems but not to run down to the nearest pharmacy and buy a camera. He was looking at this info for years.....he says so. But this never occured to him. Oh, and I like how he wraps everything up in a nice little anti-western package. That the government was keeping the 'free energy' thing secret so they could invade Iraq and get the oil fields which the west desperately needs......except for the fact that the US supposedly has the technology of 'free eternal energy'. Makes me almost wonder if he's pulling a shaggy dog joke on everyone to see how credulous people are.

edit---he said 'west' not US

<---------advancing logic here, there, and everywhere

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BBC story-UK gov't says 'no aliens'

Saw this yesterday but forgot to post the link. UK government released a report stating they have no evidence that aliens are ufo's, etc.

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Sure sounds like a load of old rubbish to me.
After all, what self respecting network engineer would use "wordpad" anyways?

Acutally its a wonderful tool that or notepad to communicate with someone that has access to the console while you are connected.

Working for a server hosting company I have done this many times to talk to customers who are remotely logged in.


Also in terms of security, yes this happens all the time. Blank passwords are common. Especially for windoz users...

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If I posted the log of the last 1-2 days of logs from fail attempts to gain access to my server, it would take up an entire page here. So yes its quite possible for those that dont know wtf they are doing.

And military and intellegence has always been mutually exclusive and I assume that is doubly true when computers are invovled. *MOST* governement systems are out of date. That is a fact.

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If I posted the log of the last 1-2 days of logs from fail attempts to gain access to my server, it would take up an entire page here. So yes its quite possible for those that dont know wtf they are doing.

And military and intellegence has always been mutually exclusive and I assume that is doubly true when computers are invovled. *MOST* governement systems are out of date. That is a fact.

That may very well be true but the question is not whether or not he was accessing out of date dial up government computers. The headscratcher is that he is the only person on the planet to find inctrovertible proof of aliens on earth known to man using his access to a dialup computer with no password. If that kind of information were to be in existence and it's scattered here and yon on puters that aren't even password protected how many people would that be? 'Gus' in maintenance ordering new cleaning supplies on a machine with alien photos on it the next desktop icon over or what? lol

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If I posted the log of the last 1-2 days of logs from fail attempts to gain access to my server, it would take up an entire page here. So yes its quite possible for those that dont know wtf they are doing.

And military and intellegence has always been mutually exclusive and I assume that is doubly true when computers are invovled. *MOST* governement systems are out of date. That is a fact.

That may very well be true but the question is not whether or not he was accessing out of date dial up government computers. The headscratcher is that he is the only person on the planet to find inctrovertible proof of aliens on earth known to man using his access to a dialup computer with no password. If that kind of information were to be in existence and it's scattered here and yon on puters that aren't even password protected how many people would that be? 'Gus' in maintenance ordering new cleaning supplies on a machine with alien photos on it the next desktop icon over or what? lol

Actually, the dialup was on his end...he wasn't dialing INTO the machine.

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If I posted the log of the last 1-2 days of logs from fail attempts to gain access to my server, it would take up an entire page here. So yes its quite possible for those that dont know wtf they are doing.

Yup :) /var/log/ is always packed with crap.

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I have the answer. Yesterday I hypothesized that there was an error in the transcription of the TV interview. I just went and listened to it again. In the TV interview he says that he saw the cursor move across the screen. So whoever typed 'I saw his hand move across the screen' was in error.

Whew....only if all discrepancies in the Cafe were so easily resolved.

Sorry, not so fast.

There are two versions of the interview: a short one, under 5 minutes, which was broadcast here in the UK, and a longer one, about 16 minutes, which is available for viewing online.

The transcript is of the short version only, and the "I saw the guys hand move" quote is an accurate transcript of what was broadcast.

That quote is in the long version as well, but there's another passage - earlier in the interview - where he seems to be describing the same event: here he does describe the cursor being moved, and the local area network connection being disconnected.

If you're following this discussion, I'd recommend listening to the long version all the way through. It does make the whole scenario slightly more plausible - and says a lot about the quality of the BBC editing, and the (lack of) technical knowledge shown by the interviewer on what it supposed to be a specialist technology show, albeit aimed at home computer users.

But I still don't believe a word of it....

I watched all of the one on the internet....Is that the good one? "Please don't hit me"

lol

These claims by McKinnon are pretty extraordinary: ....yes, there is UFO technology, there's anti-gravity, there's free energy, and it's extra-terrestrial in origin, and we've captured spacecraft and reverse-engineered it....

If true, I'd say that information like this would only be accessible from a small, highly secure internal network, to a limited amount of computer users in Special Access Programs (SAPs) holding Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) clearance, and surely protected by a series of security measures. Wouldn't it make sense that the data files and folders themselves would be encrypted? All this of course if all of this kind of info is actually real and being covered up.

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Another installment, a step closer to being extradited:

In a hearing on Wednesday a judge recommended he be extradited where he will face trial for breaking into government networks.

Friends and supporters of Mr McKinnon fear that he will not get a fair trial if he does end up in America.

The final decision on whether he will be extradited will be made by the home secretary.

story at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4758743.stm

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/05/09/botmaster.sentence.reut/index.html

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It'd be strange durring the trial if the government only tries him for breaking into computers and stealing or viewing classified government information unrelated to UFOs, and saying that they have no information about any UFO documents, while McKinnon and his layers insist that he indeed discovered information about things like UFO technology and "extraterrestrial free energy".

I'm not a lawyer, but I think that any good lawyer would normally advise their client not to admit to anything that they may have done. But, since McKinnin has already admited publicly to finding information about the things that HE says that he found, than his lawyers might just present a case where they argue that McKinnon DID break into government computers, but that he found something completely different from what the government says. Hmm, one thing I'll be watching out for in any case is if there's some sort of plea where McKinnon gets an unusually short sentence for the particular crimes he's charged with, and his lawyers go silent all the sudden.

I guess this once again raises the question: If all this stuff about UFOs and extraterrestrials is true, what LOGICAL reasons would the government have for keeping it secret?

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. . .anyone recall Tesla? deja vu

. . .anyone recall Tesla? deja vu

Well Tesla actually wanted to provide energy for free, this free energy would be based on quantum fluctuations, but not provided for free I'm sure--should it prove to be extent.

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