Not seen this posted before, it is an interesting video to listen to.

In 2002, Gary McKinnon was arrested by the UK's national high-tech crime unit, after being accused of hacking into Nasa and the US military computer networks.
He says he spent two years looking for photographic evidence of alien spacecraft and advanced power technology.

America now wants to put him on trial, and if tried there he could face 60 years behind bars.

Banned from using the internet, Gary spoke to Click presenter Spencer Kelly to tell his side of the story, ahead of his extradition hearing on Wednesday, 10 May. You can read what he had to say here.

Transcript and video at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/4977134.stm

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Wow. Wish I could believe it, because I WANT to believe it.

But it doesn't matter what we want - the fact is, there is NO picture to back up his claims. All he has are claims. Anyone could have written that. Unless some evidence is brought forward, it's obviously "not worth the paper it's printed on".

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Never Forget a Friend. Or an Enemy.

All hackers and crackers should be subjected to prosecution under the full weight of the law, period. Do the crime...do the time; it is after all a criminal act for which there is no excuse and is totally premeditated.

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Wow. Wish I could believe it, because I WANT to believe it.

But it doesn't matter what we want - the fact is, there is NO picture to back up his claims. All he has are claims. Anyone could have written that. Unless some evidence is brought forward, it's obviously "not worth the paper it's printed on".

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

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Not seen this posted before, it is an interesting video to listen to.

In 2002, Gary McKinnon was arrested by the UK's national high-tech crime unit, after being accused of hacking into Nasa and the US military computer networks.
He says he spent two years looking for photographic evidence of alien spacecraft and advanced power technology.

America now wants to put him on trial, and if tried there he could face 60 years behind bars.

Banned from using the internet, Gary spoke to Click presenter Spencer Kelly to tell his side of the story, ahead of his extradition hearing on Wednesday, 10 May. You can read what he had to say here.

Transcript and video at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/4977134.stm

That guy is a fabricator. A portion of his transcript that has me perplexed...I will explain below it.


"GM: One of these people was a Nasa photographic expert, and she said that in building eight of Johnson Space Centre they regularly airbrushed out images of UFOs from the high-resolution satellite imaging. What she said was there was there: there were folders called "filtered" and "unfiltered", "processed" and "raw", something like that.

I got one picture out of the folder, and bearing in mind this is a 56k dial-up, so a very slow internet connection, in dial-up days, using the remote control programme I turned the colour down to 4bit colour and the screen resolution really, really low, and even then the picture was still juddering as it came onto the screen.

But what came on to the screen was amazing. It was a culmination of all my efforts. It was a picture of something that definitely wasn't man-made.

It was above the Earth's hemisphere. It kind of looked like a satellite. It was cigar-shaped and had geodesic domes above, below, to the left, the right and both ends of it, and although it was a low-resolution picture it was very close up.

This thing was hanging in space, the earth's hemisphere visible below it, and no rivets, no seams, none of the stuff associated with normal man-made manufacturing.

SK: Is it possible this is an artist's impression?

GM: I don't know... For me, it was more than a coincidence. This woman has said: "This is what happens, in this building, in this space centre". I went into that building, that space centre, and saw exactly that.

SK: Do you have a copy of this? It came down to your machine.

GM: No, the graphical remote viewer works frame by frame. It's a Java application, so there's nothing to save on your hard drive, or at least if it is, only one frame at a time.

SK: So did you get the one frame?

GM: No.

SK: What happened?

GM: Once I was cut off, my picture just disappeared.

SK: You were actually cut off the time you were downloading the picture?

GM: Yes, I saw the guy's hand move across."


Picture yourself viewing an image off some hard drive some where. How the hell woould you see a "hand move across" it? He wasn't connected to a camera. He was viewing an image file. He is full of crap. Furthermore, still images aren't viewed "frame by frame". There is only 1 frame to view. The image. This guy is full of it. He doesn't have a clue.

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I took that to mean that the mouse moved across. I watched the streaming video instead of reading the transcript. There could be a discrepancy there.

edit--clarification. (what I mean to say is that even if we gave him the total benefit of the doubt about the 'hand moving across' thing he's still a fraud)

However! the portion you posted is still full of holes. He saw this giant object above the earth's hemisphere yet was viewing it at such a close distance he could tell it was SEAMLESS and contained NO RIVETS. Further, this guy claims that all of this information was grabbed off of these sites stored on aging machines on dialup....Proof of alien crash landings is on the internet at Nasa and Department of Defense, on DIALUP. With a 'blank' as a password. yeah....okeeee.

But the really big tipoff is that he claims he saw the proof of a FREE energy source that the US government gained from these captured UFO's. Free! Well, That claim alone is enough to discredit him.

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Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data!
I did NOT authorize this belly writing!

I took that to mean that the mouse moved across. I watched the streaming video instead of reading the transcript. There could be a discrepancy there. However! the portion you posted is still full of holes. He saw this giant object above the earth's hemisphere yet was viewing it at such a close distance he could tell it was SEAMLESS and contained NO RIVETS. Further, this guy claims that all of this information was grabbed off of these sites stored on aging machines on dialup....Proof of alien crash landings is on the internet at Nasa and Department of Defense, on DIALUP. With a 'blank' as a password. yeah....okeeee.

But the really big tipoff is that he claims he saw the proof of a FREE energy source that the US government gained from these captured UFO's. Free! Well, That claim alone is enough to discredit him.

exactly..because how would he know this "energy source" was free without having inside knowledge? He won't, and he can't possibly know it was free.

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I took that to mean that the mouse moved across. I watched the streaming video instead of reading the transcript. There could be a discrepancy there. However! the portion you posted is still full of holes. He saw this giant object above the earth's hemisphere yet was viewing it at such a close distance he could tell it was SEAMLESS and contained NO RIVETS. Further, this guy claims that all of this information was grabbed off of these sites stored on aging machines on dialup....Proof of alien crash landings is on the internet at Nasa and Department of Defense, on DIALUP. With a 'blank' as a password. yeah....okeeee.

But the really big tipoff is that he claims he saw the proof of a FREE energy source that the US government gained from these captured UFO's. Free! Well, That claim alone is enough to discredit him.

exactly..because how would he know this "energy source" was free without having inside knowledge? He won't, and he can't possibly know it was free.

Michael, yes, that's true. But I was attacking the claim from the point of the laws of thermodynamics. But either way is good.

ps see my post above as I was editing it while you were posting yours. Thx.

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I did NOT authorize this belly writing!

Nasa told Click that it does not discuss computer security issues or legal matters. It denied it would ever manipulate images in order to deceive and said it had a policy of open and full disclosure, adding it had no direct evidence of extra-terrestrial life.


Wonder if they have any indirect evidence?

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Nasa told Click that it does not discuss computer security issues or legal matters. It denied it would ever manipulate images in order to deceive and said it had a policy of open and full disclosure, adding it had no direct evidence of extra-terrestrial life.
Wonder if they have any indirect evidence?

Wellll actualllyyy they do! They have NUMEROUS unexplained phenonoma that they are assuming is natural, just unexplained. They have pictures from the Shuttle showing "something" below it in orbit that "could be" described as a "ufo". Do THEY think it a "ufo", of course not! THEY think it is a natural phenom that just hasn't been figured out yet. THEY have the brains to figure it out, but haven't yet.

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Nasa told Click that it does not discuss computer security issues or legal matters. It denied it would ever manipulate images in order to deceive and said it had a policy of open and full disclosure, adding it had no direct evidence of extra-terrestrial life.
Wonder if they have any indirect evidence?

Wellll actualllyyy they do! They have NUMEROUS unexplained phenonoma that they are assuming is natural, just unexplained. They have pictures from the Shuttle showing "something" below it in orbit that "could be" described as a "ufo". Do THEY think it a "ufo", of course not! THEY think it is a natural phenom that just hasn't been figured out yet. THEY have the brains to figure it out, but haven't yet.

Good points, Mikey. But if you're talking about those little dots that seem to dart around they concluded that they were tiny droplets of moisture from the shuttle because whenever they went this way and that it coincided exactly with when the attitude adjuster thrusters were being fired. Is that what you mean?

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Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data!
I did NOT authorize this belly writing!

All hackers and crackers should be subjected to prosecution under the full weight of the law, period. Do the crime...do the time; it is after all a criminal act for which there is no excuse and is totally premeditated.

"Hacker" Ethics 101: When you find a security hole, close it (but only after when you've finished exploiting it).

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Nasa told Click that it does not discuss computer security issues or legal matters. It denied it would ever manipulate images in order to deceive and said it had a policy of open and full disclosure, adding it had no direct evidence of extra-terrestrial life.
Wonder if they have any indirect evidence?

Wellll actualllyyy they do! They have NUMEROUS unexplained phenonoma that they are assuming is natural, just unexplained. They have pictures from the Shuttle showing "something" below it in orbit that "could be" described as a "ufo". Do THEY think it a "ufo", of course not! THEY think it is a natural phenom that just hasn't been figured out yet. THEY have the brains to figure it out, but haven't yet.

Good points, Mikey. But if you're talking about those little dots that seem to dart around they concluded that they were tiny droplets of moisture from the shuttle because whenever they went this way and that it coincided exactly with when the attitude adjuster thrusters were being fired. Is that what you mean?

No there was actually a physical object, or at least it looked like one, it resembled a "standard ufo" craft. It was down below the shuttle but above the clouds. It never was fully understood and of course never seen again.
And yes I remember about the droplets that were moving around seemingly with a mind of their own.

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Sure sounds like a load of old rubbish to me.
After all, what self respecting network engineer would use "wordpad" anyways?

Sure sounds like a load of old rubbish to me.
After all, what self respecting network engineer would use "wordpad" anyways?

LOL, damn right!

Notice he said in his interview all of the machines he hacked into were Windows Servers.

That's probably why he used WordPad.


I would have used Notepad. hehe

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The UK's hacking community has strongly criticised how fellow hacker Gary McKinnon has been treated.
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British hackers say he is being made an example of to serve political ends rather than improve computer security.

LOL I guess they would say that, more in the news at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4984132.stm

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The UK's hacking community has strongly criticised how fellow hacker Gary McKinnon has been treated.
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British hackers say he is being made an example of to serve political ends rather than improve computer security.

LOL I guess they would say that, more in the news at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4984132.stm

Thanks for the update, David.

I found it funny that they're making his crimes out to be harmless and motivated by nothing but curiosity. If we take his confession at face value and believe him.....about the 'authentic' UFO photos and evidence, etc. Then how is leaking that compromised information on BBC television just a result of curiosity? I'd like to backhand slap that guy with a keyboard. LOL

Those hacker conventioners apparently think it's an either or scenario to try him. We can put him on trial or improve security. Putting him on trial doesn't improve security therefore the military doesn't want security. LOL

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Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data!
I did NOT authorize this belly writing!

When he said he saw the mouse move he could have misspoken and meant to say the cursor.

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Hang the low-life ...
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When he said he saw the mouse move he could have misspoken and meant to say the cursor.

he said neither. He said "I saw the guys hand move accross the screen".

Impossible.

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