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mr.kjellen Send message Joined: 4 Jan 01 Posts: 195 Credit: 71,324,196 RAC: 0 |
The script checks for a dial-up connection via RASdial.exe, the command line version of Windows GUI dial-up. RasDial reports whether there is an active dial-up connection or not. For info on rasdial, open the command prompt and type "rasdial /?" or google it. Seems PERFECT! *off to try new learned stuff* /Anton |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
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[Cx] Send message Joined: 25 Jul 05 Posts: 141 Credit: 25,742 RAC: 0 |
Modulation-Demodulation. Ahh, the memories... BBS's, TheDraw, Overkill... I honestly don't remember 75 baud... Thinking about it, wait... did they have 200 baud and 400 baud? Back when we used full-length 8-bit ISA cards with two RJ-11s on the back..? .. and a speaker on-board for modem sounds? :) I more strongly remember half-length ISAs though... Oh, and of course, the "external" modems, connecting via 25-pin serial COM ports! 25-pin!!! .. and having to worry about full duplex or half duplex, and the common setting (eventually) of N-8-1..! Egads... that's some memories right there... WildCat BBS anyone? FidoNet? ,.;.Cx.;., |
Biker Send message Joined: 26 Jan 00 Posts: 28 Credit: 5,392 RAC: 0 |
a show of hands, or canes, or walkers. how many here punched cardboard? that's old school computing. god i feel old.............. anyways, be nice if boinc would establish a connection, do it's business, and hangup without having too hold its hand. seems odd they left that out. Don't fear the night, fear what hunts at night. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
a show of hands, or canes, or walkers. how many here punched cardboard? that's old school computing. god i feel old.............. Back when data was "real data" and you could see it right there in the holes. ... and I was thinking 45 baud (and Baudot, not ASCII), and "green keys." |
Steve Cressman Send message Joined: 6 Jun 02 Posts: 583 Credit: 65,644 RAC: 0 |
a show of hands, or canes, or walkers. how many here punched cardboard? that's old school computing. god i feel old.............. Stop shuffling my cards, now I got to go back to the flow charts and try and get them back in order ;) 98SE XP2500+ @ 2.1 GHz Boinc v5.8.8 And God said"Let there be light."But then the program crashed because he was trying to access the 'light' property of a NULL universe pointer. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19070 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
a show of hands, or canes, or walkers. how many here punched cardboard? that's old school computing. god i feel old.............. I knew people that could read it, Baudot code, straight from the tape. |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
a show of hands, or canes, or walkers. how many here punched cardboard? that's old school computing. god i feel old.............. I used to be able to read hollerith cards without the printing at the top. BOINC WIKI |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
Modulation-Demodulation. Ahh, the memories... BBS's, TheDraw, Overkill... I believe that the sequence was 50, 75, 100, 150, 300, 600, 900, 1200, 2400, 4800, 9600, 19200, 33K, 56K. These are the ones that I have seen, however, I may have missed a few. BOINC WIKI |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19070 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I believe that the sequence was 50, 75, 100, 150, 300, 600, 900, 1200, 2400, 4800, 9600, 19200, 33K, 56K. These are the ones that I have seen, however, I may have missed a few. You missed 28k8 but not bad attempt, you didn't mention that these speeds are quite often only the download speed, depending on the spec, and with some of the earlier ones the upload speed was still 75 baud. Even today the claimed 56k is only the download speed with variable upload speeds to a max of 33k. Also not mentioned was the problem, in the days up to 2400 b/s, of communicating across the pond as there were different spec's in USA and Europe and all the tricks that had to be applied so that it didn't time out as you changed frequencies etc. |
Jack Gulley Send message Joined: 4 Mar 03 Posts: 423 Credit: 526,566 RAC: 0 |
I believe that the sequence was 50, 75, 100, 150, 300, 600, 900, 1200, 2400, 4800, 9600, 19200, 33K, 56K. You left out 110 which was used in a lot of the faster teletype equipment. My first program was written in ALGOL, and was written to send data over the phone line, and was ran on an old GE 100 computer. It used about 8700 vacuum tubes. Main memory was two "drums" three feet in diameter and about four feet long as I recall, with banks of magnetic heads. The computer was already so old, that it was doing good to run for an hour before a tube would overheat and go out. Spent my spare time searching small town 7-11 stores with vacuum tube testers, looking for replacement vacuum tubes as the ones we needed were no longer made, just so I could see the program compiled and run successfully. The system printer was attached using a 75 bps communications line that went into a room three offices away, as the vibration from the printer would cause tubes to fail if it was in the same room. We were given a new 300 baud modem (by NASA no less) but the computer was so slow it could only drive the modem at 150. Before it could get anything sent, the phone company operator would break in thinking there was something wrong with the phone line, or a vacuum tube would go out. Just seconds after we made the first successful upload of data with my program, the drum memory crashed, literally. Flying magnetic heads, wires and bits of metal flying everywhere. You think BOINC Dial-up users have problems uploading? |
KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 |
a show of hands, or canes, or walkers. how many here punched cardboard? that's old school computing. god i feel old.............. Guilty! The college I was in used keypunches (IBM 26's and 29's) and Teletypes (33KSR's) when I started (deleted) years ago. They were behind the times even then... So I remember 110 baud... (along with 300, 1200, 2400, 9600, 14.4k, 28.8, 33.6, and what I'm currently using, 56k) Anyone remember the TRS-80 CoCo's modem that would ONLY run 600 baud? (not more, not less...!) . Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 |
a show of hands, or canes, or walkers. how many here punched cardboard? that's old school computing. god i feel old.............. How about paper <i>tape?</i> . Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 |
you mean ya didn't punch sequence numbers into 'em? . Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 |
(edit) in addition to the ones others have pointed out, ya missed 14.4k... As far as 25pin com ports go, what's so obsolete about them...? I've got a 33.6 attached via one sitting (as backup) ready to run right now... and yes, I rand a wildcat BBS for a while... . Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
Jack Gulley Send message Joined: 4 Mar 03 Posts: 423 Credit: 526,566 RAC: 0 |
The college I was in used keypunches (IBM 26's and 29's) Young kid! I had to use IBM 024's (no print) and they only had one IBM 026 and it was for the school administration only to use. When the line waiting on the three 024's got too long, they would drag out a couple of IBM 010's for you to use. The bad thing is, I still have a box of those old programs and data cards with no printing on them from back then. The color of the cards is not what I remembered them.... [edit]The good thing was, I was one of the first there to teach myself FORTRAN and wound up helping teach most of the other students (and the Professor) the following year. So I had a program to list out the cards so they could find their mistakes. |
KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 |
The college I was in used keypunches (IBM 26's and 29's) yahbut... this was (starting in) 1973... the 026 was just a tad obsolete by then... of course, in my first job outa college, I was using most of IBM's tabulating machines (sorter, reproducer, and a few others I've since forgotten...) and a paper tape to mag tape machine. (non-IBM) . Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
The college I was in used keypunches (IBM 26's and 29's) The university I went to in 1977 was still using a set of 026's. The computers were replaced with DEC 20s with terminals after I left. BOINC WIKI |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14653 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
a show of hands, or canes, or walkers. how many here punched cardboard? that's old school computing. god i feel old.............. Anyone else used a mechanical hand punch for 80-column cards - they had one plunger for each of the twelve rows. Numbers were easy - a single plunge to make a single hole - but letters needed two fingers, and punctuation three... |
Leo Hoodak Send message Joined: 20 Feb 00 Posts: 58 Credit: 100,994,441 RAC: 119 |
@Bill Michael I had suggested something similar a while ago, Uploads and downloads, one workunit at at time until complete. Uploads, in my opinion should have a higher priority, and complete before the downloads begin. Trying to timeshare a 28.8 connection gets stupid when you try to get 7 systems to upload / download. 100-200 bps per download for several concurrent downloads, done one at a time, you could get 2-3k / download, and complete workunits instead of 5-10 fragmented workunits. P.S. -- I still have cardfiles..... |
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