Comments to thread Wishlist - your most wanted wish go in here.

Ageless,

Err... Boinczilla is a good place for that. Oh damn, I already asked for such a thing. ;)

Yes, but they're slightly different in that my wish is is a (warning/info) message from Berekely, while your request is an active function to check for update -- if I understand you correctly.

However, I support your request also and have + it. :)

BTW, I did link to BoincZilla in my initial message. :)

Wish: Ability in BoincMgr to change CPU priority of the science application.

That's useless, you know that?
Just look at how Windows does it on a Seti only project: You change the priority for the Seti app in Task Manager. Once the unit is over, the Seti app resets and loads a new unit. It doesn't stay in memory! Easily tested by putting your Seti unit on suspend. A new Seti app will start up with a new Seti unit.

Have a couple of projects, all with their own units running/paused and your computer will not react to you doing anything any more. All of your CPU usage is then taken up. Lowest priority means exactly that: Give the cycles back to the CPU when it does something else. Change the priority and you will change the amount of cycles given to any project. So those on "paused/preempted" will still take CPU cycles when they aren't on low.

Whereas if Boinc always uses the lowest possible priority (which is lower than the Low option given in Task Manager!), it will give 100% of CPU cycles to the application when you do NOT use your computer.

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Wish: Ability in BoincMgr to change CPU priority of the science application.

That's useless, you know that?
Just look at how Windows does it on a Seti only project: You change the priority for the Seti app in Task Manager. Once the unit is over, the Seti app resets and loads a new unit. It doesn't stay in memory! Easily tested by putting your Seti unit on suspend. A new Seti app will start up with a new Seti unit.

Have a couple of projects, all with their own units running/paused and your computer will not react to you doing anything any more. All of your CPU usage is then taken up. Lowest priority means exactly that: Give the cycles back to the CPU when it does something else. Change the priority and you will change the amount of cycles given to any project. So those on "paused/preempted" will still take CPU cycles when they aren't on low.

Whereas if Boinc always uses the lowest possible priority (which is lower than the Low option given in Task Manager!), it will give 100% of CPU cycles to the application when you do NOT use your computer.

Agreed on that one. I think they have pretty well thought through what the priorites should be....and it works quite well I think. I don't see any real advantage of doing it any other way tbh.

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Whereas if Boinc always uses the lowest possible priority (which is lower than the Low option given in Task Manager!), it will give 100% of CPU cycles to the application when you do NOT use your computer.

Agreed on that one. I think they have pretty well thought through what the priorites should be....and it works quite well I think. I don't see any real advantage of doing it any other way tbh.

I wouldn't even be interested in BOINC when the science app was running with normal priority. I quit seti-classic a few years ago because it didn't run without giving performance loss on the computers it was running on.
What I can imagine is that people that have computers solely to crunch seti would like an option to choose the priority for the science app.

Greetings,
Sander

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I wouldn't even be interested in BOINC when the science app was running with normal priority. I quit seti-classic a few years ago because it didn't run without giving performance loss on the computers it was running on.
What I can imagine is that people that have computers solely to crunch seti would like an option to choose the priority for the science app.

Greetings,
Sander[/quote]

Most of my computers only crunch BOINC applications. I do not see any advantage to changing the priority on those "dedicated" computers...nothing else runs to conflict with the BOINC apps.

On "multi-use" computers, I could see a use to manipulate the priority.

<blockquote>I wouldn't even be interested in BOINC when the science app was running with normal priority.</blockquote>
First to clear up a misundertanding: my wish was meant to be an option, with unchanged default priority, not a thing forced upon users who don't want to change CPU priority. Hence, if you don't want to change it or use this option, leave it to its default value.
<blockquote>That's useless, you know that?</blockquote>
Not true. I have tested this many times and it has significant impact on my PC anyway. It may not mean so much on other people's machines -- it depends on what other applications you run in the background. If you're only running Boinc on a dedicated machine, then it'll have no useful effect. However, if you, say, run a firewall and perhaps a antispyware app in the background, it competes with S@h science app for free CPU cycles.

If I run S@h at default priority, Low, it uses about 87-92% CPU here. If I up the priority to BelowNormal, it uses 97-99%.
<blockquote> Once the unit is over, the Seti app resets and loads a new unit. It doesn't stay in memory!</blockquote>
Of course it doesn't stay that way. That is why I wish it would be possible to set the priority in BoincMgr, so it'll assign this priority to the Seti app each time one is started.

Most of my computers only crunch BOINC applications. I do not see any advantage to changing the priority on those "dedicated" computers...nothing else runs to conflict with the BOINC apps.

On "multi-use" computers, I could see a use to manipulate the priority.

Why would you want seti to run at a higher priority at a "multi-use" computer?
The things you want to do on that computer besides seti will respond slower.

Greetings,
Sander

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However, if you, say, run a firewall and perhaps a antispyware app in the background, it competes with S@h science app for free CPU cycles.

Oh, so you want your computer riddled with viruses, spyware and other nasties, just because you want to crunch your units 6 minutes faster?

If I run S@h at default priority, Low, it uses about 87-92% CPU here. If I up the priority to BelowNormal, it uses 97-99%.

Ah, I read it wrong... have you ever thought you shouldn't use Microsoft's AV/AS software? It starts up and uses 10% CPU cycles all the time.

Try Spywareblaster and Spybot: Search and Destroy. (Do a Google search, I don't want to help you now!).

They use 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of your CPU cycles.
Want to try me again? I am running all possible programs, AdAware, Spybot, SWB and &*&*%^*%(^$ Microsoft's Beta shit. Yes, the Beta shit may find other things, but why do I need to reboot after I got a new update in? Why does it take up CPU, when it should be a background program?

If you can find the answer to that, you may find that you aren't in that great danger and you can exit half of your programs.

Aren't you sleeping most of the time, or doing other work on your computer the rest of the time? What impact will giving an option of increasing the priority do then? Or is it solely for you and the rest of the 'farmers'?

Will you explain to everyone else (around 124,000 users) not to touch that option as it may severely impair the rest of their computing? Or do you want the guys at Seti to write to for you, probably add it as a fire red scroller through the manager?

See now how it's useless? Think macro as in 124,000 users with a single computer, not you with your own micro farm of 24 computers!

Oh... my hardware firewall in my MultiPC modem uses 0% CPU. My AVG 7.0 may use 10% of the CPU per day. You think I care?

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Between the 3 parts of AVG 7.0 running on my system cpu usage is 0.06%. Trivial amount if you ask me. Outpost firewall uses 0.22%, also trivial.

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98SE XP2500+ @ 2.1 GHz Boinc v5.8.8

And God said"Let there be light."But then the program crashed because he was trying to access the 'light' property of a NULL universe pointer.

Totaly agree with that. Even an option could give bad results for people who don't understand what they do. And probably this could lead to troubles for computer using Thread Master like I do (sorry, my laptop can't crunch 100% of the time, the cooling system is too noisy)

As I see for a month, running the actual way is fine. I just would like to see the network load decrease a bit to just was is necessary. This would probably decrease the server load, a good thing looking at what is hapenning at the moment.

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