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Message 134737 - Posted: 9 Jul 2005, 14:27:50 UTC - in response to Message 134735.  

Who would want to be a terrorist?


Your perspective is greatly apprciated thank you Whisky!
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Message 134771 - Posted: 9 Jul 2005, 16:34:06 UTC - in response to Message 134737.  
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Who would want to be a terrorist?


Your perspective is greatly apprciated thank you Whisky!


On the other side of the coin, I've found Arabs individually to be some of the most hospitable people there are on this planet. I've also lived in the Middle East, and have been to Syria, Lebenon, Egypt, and Israel. Yes, Israel.
Although I'm very pro Israel, I made many friends amongst the Israeli Arabs. If one really makes an attempt to get to know them, they can be some of the truest friends you'll ever have, and they'll literally give you the last thing they own, if you need it. Their hospitality is legend, and if they like you, infidel or not, you are treated like one of the family.



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Message 134801 - Posted: 9 Jul 2005, 17:55:27 UTC
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On the other side of the coin, I've found Arabs individually to be some of the most hospitable people there are on this planet.

Didn't you find that at times their hospitality and generosity could be embarrasing, particularly older Arabs of my own generation?

I made many friends amongst the Israeli Arabs. Their hospitality is legend, and if they like you, infidel or not, you are treated like one of the
family.

It's unfortunate that many peoples train of thought is...Israel...Jewish...
Hi-Tech...Industrialised...Nuclear armed...agressive..etc
To many minds the term "Isreali Muslim" just dosn't compute.

I will never understand how a young man can grow up in a caring society and
then decide to become a terrorist and self-imposed outcast from that society.

My name has always been associated with Scottish Whiskey and from my earliest
schooldays I have been nicknamned Whiskey.

UNTIL...this guy was caught in Afghanistan!!

In American minds the name John Walker is now linked forever to this guy.
The American Taliban!
I wonder what his nickname was in school?

I can't remember how many Brits ended up in GITMO but I do remember that one
was caught in a cave in Afghanistan. I can't get my head around a young man
wanting to leave a comfortable suburban English home and family to go and live
life on the run in an environment where he has no electricity, refrigerator,
electric light, comfortable bed, flush toilet etc. and devoutly believe that
it was the right thing to do?
When asked why, he said he was in Afghanistan to defend it against the Invading
American Infidel. When asked what he would have done if he had come face to
face with a British soldier he said ...
"I would have shot him"

Sad but true.

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Message 134803 - Posted: 9 Jul 2005, 18:02:21 UTC

With the tragedy that occurred in London, we have this little story that came out. It shows me at least how insensitive all these caring celebrities really can be and they wonder why more and more people aren't bowing down to worship them like they used to since they only really care about themselves.

In London, uninjured singer seeks prayers

NEW YORK (Reuters) - London was the scene of carnage on Thursday after a series of deadly blasts but American R&B crooner Omarion, who suffered no injury or inconvenience, wants people to pray for him.

"Omarion was in London during the tragic bombings that struck this morning," a statement by the singer's publicist AR PR Marketing, released hours after the bombings, said.

Making no mention of the fatalities or casualties of the blasts, the singer's statement concluded, "He would like his fans to pray that he has a safe trip and a safe return home. He appreciates your support."

He was in London for Saturday's Live 8 show, his publicist Shana Gilmore told Reuters from Los Angeles. Asked why anyone should pray for him, Gilmore said, "He wasn't hurt or anything, but just the fact that he was there and all that."

Omarion was the teenaged lead singer of the chart-topping band B2K before going solo. The 20-year-old's first solo album "O" debuted at No. 1 of Billboard charts earlier this year


Sorry if it may be a little off topic but it just irritated me no end that nothing happened to this pompous twit yet he wants the prayers and sympathy for himself instead of the prayers going to the victims and their families of the London explosions.



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Message 134812 - Posted: 9 Jul 2005, 18:16:19 UTC - in response to Message 134803.  


Sorry if it may be a little off topic but it just irritated me ....


It's Ok, RDC, we often see in tragedies like this how the lower qualities of humanity evolves!

Hotels 'cash in' on bomb attacks

We also saw it in the wake of the tsunami!



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Message 134820 - Posted: 9 Jul 2005, 18:33:11 UTC

SICKENING

Yet again the Vultures, grave robbers and Gold diggers come crawling out of
their holes to take advantage of the misfortunes of others.
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Message 134824 - Posted: 9 Jul 2005, 18:41:54 UTC
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In a similar vein...London and profiteering.

When Charles and Camilla anounced the date of their wedding, companies produced
the usual assortment of cheap Royal Wedding Memorabilia with the date of the
wedding printed on them.
They didn't sell as well as expected and vendors were faced with the prospect of being stuck with a pile of un-sold goods.
Then the Madrid Bombings happened, The wedding date was changed, souvenires and
memorabilia started flying of the shelves like hot cakes because the wrongly
dated goods became "Collectables"

Companies actually manufactured new batches of goods with the wrong date on them after the new date was announced!
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Message 134865 - Posted: 9 Jul 2005, 21:27:02 UTC
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"Didn't you find that at times their hospitality and generosity could be embarrasing, particularly older Arabs of my own generation?"

No, I never had that problem. I took it for what it was, a generous extention of their culture and "true" faith,
which they never would have considered pushing on me out of respect.

That is one of many reasons why I find radical Islam so distasteful and abhorant.
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Message 134871 - Posted: 9 Jul 2005, 21:44:44 UTC

British Evacuate Birmingham District

In a sign of the continued state of alert in England, police evacuated thousands of people from Birmingham's central entertainment district Saturday night and conducted several controlled explosions to destroy suspicious objects, the British Broadcasting Corp. reported. There was no confirmation of any explosive devices being found.


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Message 135349 - Posted: 11 Jul 2005, 0:38:24 UTC - in response to Message 133839.  
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I have a real hard time with a people that believe their god tells them to go kill people...


It has nothing to do with God.

I'm not aware of any religion that actually say you should kill people who don't do what you want them to.

Some people will use any excuse as a justification for acts of terror.

Acts of terror in the long run just don't work.

To my mind the reason why some make up these (fairly obvious) excuses is because they are too feeble to think of any alternatives or are too scared to say what their real political intentions are.


If you're not aware of any religion that actually says you should kill people who don't do or believe as you do, then I recommend you study carefully both the Koran and the Hadiths (commentaries) on it, and the Old Testament. In addition you might want to have a look at the sermons preached by the so-called Christian church to get people to go on the crusades.

"With or without religion good people may do good and bad people may do evil. But for good people to do evil...that takes religion."

[b]FAITH KILLS</B>

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I'M TROLLING FOR FOOLS. THIS MUST BE THE PLACE!
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Message 135677 - Posted: 11 Jul 2005, 20:21:51 UTC
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Hence the delema of the "Consciencious Objector"
To refuse to kill because you know that it is wrong to do so as your religion,
your parents and teachers have always taught you; in so doing, to be labeled
a coward or a deserter.
OR; to say "To hell with it" and to follow the herd because it is the right
thing to do by popular concensus.

The Christian belief seems to be that it's OK to kill Christians when they are
attacking us?
But why are they attacking us?
If you listen to the rantings of Hitler at the Nazi mass rallies it's not too
difficult to understand why a nation who had just suffered a beating and was
under restrictions imposed by foreigners would follow a man who promised them
an easier life. Even the children were brainwashed into turning their own parents.
After the World War it was difficult to find a German who would stand up and
say that Hitler was right and he was a great leader?
They were all "Just following orders"

The wheel-chair bound Palestinian Mulla who was assasinated by Isreal had just
proclaimed that it was now OK for women to become suicide bombers and in so
doing they would become martyrs and achieve equality with men in heaven!!
Why can't they have equality here on earth??
This appealed to some down trodden women and even a mother of two strapped on a
bomb in the hope of becoming a suicidal murderer!

Two examples of Palestinian religious brainwashing.....

A buisnessman in his 40's with two wives and multiple kids set off in a
car-bomb to blow up an Isreali checkpont. The video shows his car blowing up
before he reached the target. No one was injured. All he succeeded in doing was
blowing a big hole in the road, killing himself, widowing two wives and leaving his kids fatherless.

A palestinian suicide bomber getting into a taxi accidently detonated!
He killed himself, the Palestinian taxi driver and two Palestinian wommen who
were waking past.

Both of the above are considered Martyrs because they died with "Good Intentions" in their minds!!

We cannot understand that kind of mentallity now, just as we couldn't
understand the mentality of brainwashed Suicide pilots in the World War.





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Message 135849 - Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 1:24:25 UTC

And the beat goes on...

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Message 135933 - Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 5:01:26 UTC - in response to Message 135849.  

And the beat goes on...

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Message 135938 - Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 5:19:43 UTC

There are some people that aren't looking for forieners from space but from amonst us. It is a reaction rather than a pro-action. We may never be safe from this type of action again but we will find most and they have a tendacy to reduce thier own numbers. A case in fact is the way these bombings were done. They could have easily been done remote or drop off. They chose to do it with suicide bombers. Maybe Dariwin was right. I see too many instaces where he wasn't. But, the food chain must go on.......It may be just the law of averages.
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Message 136126 - Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 18:04:58 UTC
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Message 136131 - Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 18:36:08 UTC - in response to Message 135938.  

A case in fact is the way these bombings were done. They could have easily been done remote or drop off. They chose to do it with suicide bombers. Maybe


They were young impressionable people, even a young father.
It Proves that Life is cheap in the eyes of the terrorist Cowards.....
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Message 136748 - Posted: 15 Jul 2005, 14:06:30 UTC

Man arrested in Egypt suspected of making bombs
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Some fear the dark but with friends like Orion,Cygnus and Andromeda one needs no fear

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Message 136792 - Posted: 15 Jul 2005, 16:26:24 UTC - in response to Message 133750.  

They just said on BBC that it was a suicide bomber. And since the IRA doesn't use suicide bombers, it was probly Al-Qaeda or associates.


Well, I've never heard of IRA attacking several targets in an coordinated efford like this, so I'd rule out IRA instantly. Besides, they don't really have any reason to attack at the moment - at least not big scale like this. And BTW as far as I know they always target military or police.

They way this has happened sounds more typical for Al-Qaeda and ass.



Posts like this one make me absolutely furious. Let’s take a look at some of the IRA’s targets:

1974: In the Birmingham Pub Bombings bombs in two pubs kill 19
1974: In December a bomb explodes on the first floor of Harrods department store in Knightsbridge

1975: The killing of businessman Ross McWhirter, who had offered reward money to people who informed on the IRA.

10 October 1981: a bomb blast on Ebury Bridge Road in London kills 2 people and injures 39

26 October 1981: a bomb explodes at a Wimpy Bar [a fast food restaurant] in Oxford Street London killing the bomb disposal officer trying to defuse it

1983: A Harrods department store bomb planted by the IRA during Christmas shopping season kills six

18 February 1991: A bomb explodes at Victoria Station. One man is killed and 38 people injured

28 February 1992: A bomb explodes at London Bridge railway station injuring 29 people

10 April 1992: A large bomb explodes in St Mary Axe in the City of London killing three people and injuring 91

12 October 1992: A device explodes in the gents' toilet of the Sussex Arms public house in Covent Garden

1993: Two IRA bombs at opposite ends of a shopping street in Warrington, timed to go off within minutes of each other, kill two children

1993: The PIRA detonates a huge truck bomb in the City of London at Bishopsgate, which kills two

10 February 1996: The IRA ends its 1994 cease-fire, killing two civilians in a bomb adjacent to the South Quay DLR station in London's Docklands.

18 February 1996: An improvised high explosive device detonates prematurely on a bus travelling along Aldwych in central London, killing Edward O'Brien, the IRA operative transporting the device and injuring eight others

15 June 1996: The IRA detonates a 3,300 lb (1,500 kg) bomb in Manchester, injuring 206 people

Were they military pubs that were blown up killing all those people? Was the Wimpy’s Burger restaurant some kind of secret police or military base? Were the 2 children killed in Warrington soldiers?

Please, don’t tell me that the IRA only target the police and military.

(quotes from http://en.wikipedia.org/)
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Message 136898 - Posted: 15 Jul 2005, 20:24:56 UTC

The IRA have always in my view have always been targeted mainly on the British public. But in London i dont think anyone truly believed the IRA had done this from the start, there is more 'peace' now in Ireland than I have ever known. Since 9/11 Britain has been bracing itself for a terror attack from Al Quaeda and now it has come and most people on hearing the first reports of the bombs in London suspected Al Quaeda
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Message 137300 - Posted: 16 Jul 2005, 18:45:00 UTC - in response to Message 136792.  
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They just said on BBC that it was a suicide bomber. And since the IRA doesn't use suicide bombers, it was probly Al-Qaeda or associates.


Well, I've never heard of IRA attacking several targets in an coordinated efford like this, so I'd rule out IRA instantly. Besides, they don't really have any reason to attack at the moment - at least not big scale like this. And BTW as far as I know they always target military or police.

They way this has happened sounds more typical for Al-Qaeda and ass.



Posts like this one make me absolutely furious. Let’s take a look at some of the IRA’s targets:

1974: In the Birmingham Pub Bombings bombs in two pubs kill 19
1974: In December a bomb explodes on the first floor of Harrods department store in Knightsbridge

1975: The killing of businessman Ross McWhirter, who had offered reward money to people who informed on the IRA.

10 October 1981: a bomb blast on Ebury Bridge Road in London kills 2 people and injures 39

26 October 1981: a bomb explodes at a Wimpy Bar [a fast food restaurant] in Oxford Street London killing the bomb disposal officer trying to defuse it

1983: A Harrods department store bomb planted by the IRA during Christmas shopping season kills six

18 February 1991: A bomb explodes at Victoria Station. One man is killed and 38 people injured

28 February 1992: A bomb explodes at London Bridge railway station injuring 29 people

10 April 1992: A large bomb explodes in St Mary Axe in the City of London killing three people and injuring 91

12 October 1992: A device explodes in the gents' toilet of the Sussex Arms public house in Covent Garden

1993: Two IRA bombs at opposite ends of a shopping street in Warrington, timed to go off within minutes of each other, kill two children

1993: The PIRA detonates a huge truck bomb in the City of London at Bishopsgate, which kills two

10 February 1996: The IRA ends its 1994 cease-fire, killing two civilians in a bomb adjacent to the South Quay DLR station in London's Docklands.

18 February 1996: An improvised high explosive device detonates prematurely on a bus travelling along Aldwych in central London, killing Edward O'Brien, the IRA operative transporting the device and injuring eight others

15 June 1996: The IRA detonates a 3,300 lb (1,500 kg) bomb in Manchester, injuring 206 people

Were they military pubs that were blown up killing all those people? Was the Wimpy’s Burger restaurant some kind of secret police or military base? Were the 2 children killed in Warrington soldiers?

Please, don’t tell me that the IRA only target the police and military.

(quotes from http://en.wikipedia.org/)


Agreed.
I was turned away from the Tavern in the Town in Birmingham that night in 1974 otherwise I
might not be here now. A friend of mine is totally deaf as a result of it.
I have attended several of those bombings listed as a member of the
emergency services. They have hit whomsoever they please.


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