> So... how DO you get BOINC to cache work? I was running both BOINC and SETI
> classic and more often than not, they couldn't find the server. I finally
> uninstalled both. There really isn't a lot of newbie-friendly information here
> about how the BOINC projects work.

Starhugger,

Click on my link below ... more user friendly information than you want ... :)

And if it is not user friendly, send me a note and I will fix it ...

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> but helping AIDS research seems more urgent. I think I would rather focus my
> resources on that. Thanks for letting me know. :-)
>
>
> Starhugger
>
13 months ago I was diagnosed with Squamous Cell Carcinoma of the Larynx. After 3 Co2 laser treatments and the return of the cancer, I underwent Radiation Therapy and that finished last Sept 3rd. I've been cancer free since, however during my follow up last Tuesday the doctor found a new growth and I had surgery Yesterday to do a biopsy. it came back negative on cancer. It was a scare as the only option left for me is a complete laryngectomy (removal of larynx).

I therefore prefer "Folding@home" and "protein Predictor".

tony

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> > but helping AIDS research seems more urgent. I think I would rather focus
> my
> > resources on that. Thanks for letting me know. :-)
> >
> >
> > Starhugger
> >
> 13 months ago I was diagnosed with Squamous Cell Carcinoma of the Larynx.
> After 3 Co2 laser treatments and the return of the cancer, I underwent
> Radiation Therapy and that finished last Sept 3rd. I've been cancer free
> since, however during my follow up last Tuesday the doctor found a new growth
> and I had surgery Yesterday to do a biopsy. it came back negative on cancer.
> It was a scare as the only option left for me is a complete laryngectomy
> (removal of larynx).
>
> I therefore prefer "Folding@home" and "protein Predictor".
>
> tony
>
Tony,

I'm glad to hear that it came back negative!!!!! Stories like yours and personal experience with family members dealing with various kinds of cancer is what lead me to these distributed computing projects. I started out running a program that the University of Oxford runs called Ligandfit using United Devices to process the research project. The software is available at www.grid.org. It runs in the background, and only consumes resources that aren't in use on your PC. You can run the Ligandfit Cancer Research and/or a Protein folding project that is also currently using United Devices (UD). The UD platform is the equivelant to BOINC. Ligandfit is the project.

I'd suggest checking out www.grid.org to see if the cancer research project they have is something you want to run on your computer.

Torrey Lauer
Rainbow Sky Travel
www RainbowSkyTravel com

> I'd suggest checking out www.grid.org to see if the cancer research project
> they have is something you want to run on your computer.

Many of us here ran UD until we found out what rip-off merchants they are - how they treat crunchers and how they use crunchers work to make profits for themselves. I, for one, will never touch them with a bargepole again. :(

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Be lucky

Neil

>
> > I'd suggest checking out www.grid.org to see if the cancer research
> project
> > they have is something you want to run on your computer.
>
> Many of us here ran UD until we found out what rip-off merchants they are -
> how they treat crunchers and how they use crunchers work to make profits for
> themselves. I, for one, will never touch them with a bargepole again. :(
>
>
>
>

The Seti team may not always update the news as often as some of us would like, but at least they're non-profit. In addition, here at Seti, most of the flaming is done by fellow members. Over there, the moderators, project admins, and UD spokespeople flame members and then ban them before they have a chance to reply.

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You will be assimilated...bunghole!

>
> Many of us here ran UD until we found out what rip-off merchants they are -
> how they treat crunchers and how they use crunchers work to make profits for
> themselves. I, for one, will never touch them with a bargepole again. :(
>

Could you elaborate more on this? I'm intrigued...

> >
> > Many of us here ran UD until we found out what rip-off merchants they are
> -
> > how they treat crunchers and how they use crunchers work to make profits
> for
> > themselves. I, for one, will never touch them with a bargepole again. :(
> >
>
> Could you elaborate more on this? I'm intrigued...
>
>
>

They're a for-profit organization. With Seti@home, any discoveries we make will be passed freely around the world. With United Devices, any discoveries will be sold for profit. In other words, if they do develop a cure for cancer, there are no guarantees that it will be made cheap enough for everybody to have access to it. The cure could be made for only the wealthy.

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You will be assimilated...bunghole!

I know of UD, I haven't run UD. However, if there was a cure found I'd gladly pay out the ass for a cure. Especially since the alternative is DEATH for me.

tony

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> I know of UD, I haven't run UD. However, if there was a cure found I'd gladly
> pay out the ass for a cure. Especially since the alternative is DEATH for me.
>
> tony
>
>

I'm glad you have the money to spend. What about the countless billions who don't?

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You will be assimilated...bunghole!

> > I know of UD, I haven't run UD. However, if there was a cure found I'd
> gladly
> > pay out the ass for a cure. Especially since the alternative is DEATH for
> me.
> >
> > tony
> >
> >
>
> I'm glad you have the money to spend. What about the countless billions who
> don't?
>
I have insurance and have still shelled out 52K last year. I'm selling my home to pay my bills, and I'd still pay out my ass. Look at my puters, all old. I haven't worked since July. Let's talk.

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> I know of UD, I haven't run UD. However, if there was a cure found I'd gladly
> pay out the ass for a cure. Especially since the alternative is DEATH for me.
>
> tony
>

Not to attack you personally, but I'm afraid that attitude is prevalent in the west and especially in the US. It is the reason little has yet been done to help the third world countries combat AIDS. In the west HIV patients can now expect a relatively long and productive life, whereas in third world countries it is still a death warrant. Only when faced with the availability and acceptance of 'illegal' generic drugs, has the US pharmaceutical companies started to do something to help the poorer countries with the epidemics that is rampant there.

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Boinc V7.2.42
Win7 i5 3.33G 4GB, GTX470

> >
> I have insurance and have still shelled out 52K last year. I'm selling my
> home to pay my bills, and I'd still pay out my ass. Look at my puters, all
> old. I haven't worked since July. Let's talk.
>
>
>

Ok, let's talk. Let's talk about soemone who doesn't have any computers, who only makes a few bucks per day, who doesn't HAVE a home. You know how much food + cheap medicine 52k can buy? See, compared to the people I'm talking about, you're living like a king. So you have to sell your house. Big deal. At least you have a house to sell! My whole point is not to knock you and your situation. I'm trying to point out that there are many people in the world who are in even worse situations than you, and they need cheap drugs. I'm certain they would pay out of their ass...if only they could.

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You will be assimilated...bunghole!

> Ok, let's talk. Let's talk about soemone who doesn't have any computers, who
> only makes a few bucks per day, who doesn't HAVE a home. You know how much
> food + cheap medicine 52k can buy?

You mean like my aunt who's poor and gets here cancer treatments for FREE, or more to the point on the taxes I've paid in my life, or from the fact that my bills are so high because I'm paying not just for my treatment but for those less fortunate by paying higher prices?

See, compared to the people I'm talking
> about, you're living like a king. So you have to sell your house. Big deal.
> At least you have a house to sell!

And what do I do next after I've sold all assets?????? huh???

My whole point is not to knock you and
> your situation. I'm trying to point out that there are many people in the
> world who are in even worse situations than you, and they need cheap drugs.

Cheap drugs hell, they get them FREE from the Government. It's guys like me who pay for everyone, and then get now help when we need it.

> I'm certain they would pay out of their ass...if only they could.
>

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>
> You mean like my aunt who's poor and gets here cancer treatments for FREE, or
> more to the point on the taxes I've paid in my life, or from the fact that my
> bills are so high because I'm paying not just for my treatment but for those
> less fortunate by paying higher prices?

I'm talking about people in the third world countries who DON'T have government health care, DON'T have insurance, and DON'T have any money.

> And what do I do next after I've sold all assets?????? huh???

That's exactly the point I'm trying to make. You're screwed. Just like the people I'm referring to.

> Cheap drugs hell, they get them FREE from the Government. It's guys like me
> who pay for everyone, and then get now help when we need it.

Oh really? Since when to people in Ethiopia, The Congo, or Somalia get free drugs from your government?

>
> > I'm certain they would pay out of their ass...if only they could.
> >
>

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You will be assimilated...bunghole!

For example, My wife had a headache for 2 weeks. She saw the doc, doc said we need a CTscan. We went to local hospital, asked how much? They say "we don't know". CTscan is done, we get bill for $3104. Later finding out the insurance only pays up to 1K. We were stuck with $2104 bill. Later we find that a Columbia SC imaging center only charge $380 bucks for the same thing.

I've never wanted a hand out. I want Fair pricing and open disclosure.

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Hummmmm.....I've got Barretts Esophagus as does MMCIASTRO,mine hasn't gone cancerous yet. I am running the UD cancer project if nothing else to maybe benefit myself and because my Father died from lukemia when I was 12. If the UD people are the POS that you all say they are I will never run their programs again.I would like to here other peoples opinions of them too.I don't know all the bad stuff about the project as some of you do.I also run folding at homw to and think that is a worthy project, any opinions on that?
Good luck MMCIASTRO with your health, BlackAdder

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>
> Oh really? Since when to people in Ethiopia, The Congo, or Somalia get free
> drugs from your government?
>
OK, I paid $180/month for Nexium. In Canada it's $120 bucks, Mexico $65 dollars. We do ship free drugs to somalia and other third world countries.

I don't mind a drug company making money. it costs them boatloads to develop new drugs, then just cause they wanna make their money back during the 10 year patent you call them money grubbers.

You don't have a clue.

again, I'd pay anything for a cure. Put up with UD's crap if they could only find one. I know my form of cancer isn't high on the list, so there's no hope for me from UD.

tony

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>
> I've never wanted a hand out. I want Fair pricing and open disclosure.
>

Exactly. But as I originally stated, nothing prevents UD (or their clients) from selling the cure at outrageously inflated prices.

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You will be assimilated...bunghole!

> For example, My wife had a headache for 2 weeks. She saw the doc, doc said
> we need a CTscan. We went to local hospital, asked how much? They say "we
> don't know". CTscan is done, we get bill for $3104. Later finding out the
> insurance only pays up to 1K. We were stuck with $2104 bill. Later we find
> that a Columbia SC imaging center only charge $380 bucks for the same thing.
>
> I've never wanted a hand out. I want Fair pricing and open disclosure.
>
This is a noble goal. It's too bad that life is not like that.

>
> >
> > Oh really? Since when to people in Ethiopia, The Congo, or Somalia get
> free
> > drugs from your government?
> >
> OK, I paid $180/month for Nexium. In Canada it's $120 bucks, Mexico $65
> dollars. We do ship free drugs to somalia and other third world countries.

Nexium...heartburn medication? You're comparing a Cure for Cancer to heartburn medication?

>
> I don't mind a drug company making money. it costs them boatloads to develop
> new drugs, then just cause they wanna make their money back during the 10 year
> patent you call them money grubbers.

I never said there was anything wrong with them making money. Go back and read my posts. I said "there's no guarantee that [the cure for cancer] will be cheap enough for everybody to afford."

Selling a cheap medication to BILLIONS of people will certainly make a handsome profit, and not screw any needy people in the process.

>
> You don't have a clue.

You can take the personal attacks and shove them up your ass right now. My whole position is that I will not help a company develop a medication that could be restricted to the wealthiest people / nations. What part of that do you have a problem with?

>
> again, I'd pay anything for a cure. Put up with UD's crap if they could only
> find one. I know my form of cancer isn't high on the list, so there's no hope
> for me from UD.

I understand that you'd pay anything for a cure, and truth be told, so would I. But you keep ignoring the most important point that I'm trying to make. My point is that just because you WOULD pay anything, doesn't mean you COULD afford it. If the cure costs 10 grand, then both you and I could afford to pay it...especially if (as you put it) the alternative is death. But ask someone in a third world nation if they could afford 10 grand. WOULD they pay 10 grand to live if they could afford it, absolutely! COULD they afford to pay 10 grand? No. They'd be sentenced to death due to the greed of others.

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You will be assimilated...bunghole!