21) Message boards : Number crunching : This is a new boinc project i think (Message 23311) Posted 7 Sep 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /boinc on this server. http://lattice.umiacs.umd.edu/boinc

22) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone getting credit? (Message 23310) Posted 7 Sep 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=3376

23) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 4 and Win98 (Message 23303) Posted 7 Sep 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: > All those links do is point to themselves. When is there going to be the > 'official' version, rather than a special Alpha user version? agreed - I have Win98SE systems that are still on Seti classic and I'd REALLY like to get them boincing right along - everything I've read in other posts indicates that 4.07 is ready for prime time slightly OT here but I noticed that the Classic results pages are several days behind (probably because all efforts are towards getting BOINC running smoothly, right?)

24) Questions and Answers : Windows : "...down for the night" (Message 23300) Posted 7 Sep 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: this is not really an answer, more like a question - does the recent aquisition of Snap by Adaptec have any bearing on these new issues? I have ssne things like that happen before, and more often than not there are adverse "reactions" when a big company swallows up a little one - it seesm to me that if S.A.H. was being run by a major energy producer or a financial services company these probs would have been fixed in less than a day....

25) Questions and Answers : Windows : system lock using BOINC v4 (Message 21752) Posted 3 Sep 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: > OK 20 hours later I have an NT4 bos running BOINC 4.x no problem, and my 98SE > box originally reported in this thread experienced an IPF from BOINC: > > BOINC_GUI caused an invalid page fault in > module KERNEL32.DLL at 0177:bff88396. > Registers: > EAX=c00309c4 CS=0177 EIP=bff88396 EFLGS=00010212 > EBX=006effec SS=017f ESP=005efe98 EBP=005f0010 > ECX=00000000 DS=017f ESI=00000000 FS=1a4f > EDX=bff76855 ES=017f EDI=bff79060 GS=0000 > Bytes at CS:EIP: > 53 56 57 8b 75 10 8b 38 33 db 85 f6 75 2d 8d b5 > > that's all I could get before the box was locked and had to be reset. I don't > have symbols configured or any Dr watson logging or such, and quite frankly I > don't intend to unless requested by Seti development. I will run SETI classic > on that box til further notice, and keep running BOINC under NT4 since there > does not seem to be a probem with the client under that OS. I will NOT remove > 98SE from the affected system, since it cannot run correctly on any other OS > and it was doing just fine before this started. > update - I configured dual boot w/W2K on the same machine, installed BOINC 4.5 - no issues. My hardware is not the problem> I noted that an alpha version of BOINC 4.6 is available now and I'll give that a try over the weekend, after I update the ghost image of my 98SE installation

26) Questions and Answers : Windows : Win98SE + BOINC 4.05 hangs with stack overflow (Message 20631) Posted 31 Aug 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: > I keep telling people, DO NOT USE the BOINC screensaver. The screensaver is > the issue. Use any other screensaver and this issue will go away. > > If you are not using the screensaver, then I am unsure what the issue is. I > have a P1-166, and a P1-200MMX both running BOINC 4.05 for over 24 hours, and > neither have crashed. I am using the BLANK screensaver. > > The screensaver in 2000/XP still does not work correctly, either. It now says > "will be fixed in furture version". > > <img> src="http://boinc.mundayweb.com/seti2/stats.php?userID=1183&trans=off"> > I have never wasted cycles with screensavers, and until this (http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/forum_thread.php?id=3403) I never had a problem with a SETI client (5 years now). There IS an issue with BOINC v4.x under Win 9X/ME (of course ME is an issue by itself) I wish I knew enought to tell you what it was but all I know now is that NT kernels (4,5, possibly 6) and Unix/Linux kernels seem unnaffected. Mac users? don't know - probably not

27) Questions and Answers : Windows : system lock using BOINC v4 (Message 20625) Posted 31 Aug 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: OK 20 hours later I have an NT4 bos running BOINC 4.x no problem, and my 98SE box originally reported in this thread experienced an IPF from BOINC: BOINC_GUI caused an invalid page fault in module KERNEL32.DLL at 0177:bff88396. Registers: EAX=c00309c4 CS=0177 EIP=bff88396 EFLGS=00010212 EBX=006effec SS=017f ESP=005efe98 EBP=005f0010 ECX=00000000 DS=017f ESI=00000000 FS=1a4f EDX=bff76855 ES=017f EDI=bff79060 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 53 56 57 8b 75 10 8b 38 33 db 85 f6 75 2d 8d b5 that's all I could get before the box was locked and had to be reset. I don't have symbols configured or any Dr watson logging or such, and quite frankly I don't intend to unless requested by Seti development. I will run SETI classic on that box til further notice, and keep running BOINC under NT4 since there does not seem to be a probem with the client under that OS. I will NOT remove 98SE from the affected system, since it cannot run correctly on any other OS and it was doing just fine before this started.

28) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC 4.05: System gets slower and slower; FAT now corrupted. (Message 20228) Posted 31 Aug 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: > I'm going to attempt to use Norton's RescueDisk to boot the system and run > DiskDoctor to fix the FAT. If that fails, then I have no choice but to do a > Windows reinstall, wiping out everything. I'm not a happy camper. MPBroida - you may not have to wipe out everything even if Norton fails to fix your system. As long as your partition is intact, you can simply rename WIN.COM then perform a re-install of Windows (either into the same directory -risky - or a new directory - safe. No need to lose user data

29) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC 4.05: System gets slower and slower; FAT now corrupted. (Message 20218) Posted 31 Aug 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: Please let me add that my system is not corrupted, and after a thorough scandisk/defrag I have reinstalled BOINC in a effort to re-create the problem (perhaps I can get some more usefull information). BOINC in NT4 didn't crash my system (it wasn't doing anything at all), and the volume it was running on is FAT16. I have not yet run BOINC under Linux or W2K - thoise boxes are still running the classic command line versions. It's too early to be drawing conclusions about what happened.

30) Questions and Answers : Windows : Exceeded disk limit? (Message 20087) Posted 31 Aug 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: Stinky, I won't pretend to know what it really happening here, but in the last few hours it seems many users have reported all kinds of bugs w/BOINC v.4 this one seems to be the most extreme: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=3369 keep reading for updated information and I agree - use the classic version for now. The old SETI page states that the work performed by client 3.08 is still valid to the project

31) Questions and Answers : Windows : Warning new BOINC is corrupting systems (Message 20081) Posted 31 Aug 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: > > HAVE WHAT ISSUES??> > > Win 98/ME systems have the issues... > CORRECTION: There are <a> href="http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=3403">others[/url] > with disk corruption problems from this upgrade. MPBroida, I need to clarify one point - I have not experienced corruption to my file system, just user data, and I suspect that happened because I had open files when I lost control of the kernel and had to reset. Clearly something is not right with BOINC v4x - it should not lock the box just because the remote server is down, but I think your experience was much more drastic than mine. And certainly more frustrating. I'll be trying BOINC v4 on a laptop that I care nothing about, dual booting 98SE and W2K, and posting my results tomorrow

32) Questions and Answers : Windows : Seti has spent two days trying to down load the same block of data (Message 20073) Posted 31 Aug 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: Ted - were you aware of the server problems affecting BOINC today? havce you tried a suspend/close/restart of BOINC since you posted this message? If so, what happened?

33) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC Version 4.05 dont work (Message 20072) Posted 31 Aug 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: perhaps you launched during the server outage? have you suspended/closed/restarted BOINC since you posted? see if my problem (system lock with BOINC v4) bears any resemblance to yours, if you have the time....

34) Questions and Answers : Windows : [FYI] It's BOINC stupid! Not Seti! (Message 20069) Posted 31 Aug 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: Until Boinc v.4 was installed on 1 of my systems, I had not encountered any operational problems. In fact, the 3.x versions seemed pretty good to me (never ran it as a screensaver. I ain't watchin' it...) I do think the BOINC concept is a good one, but I really don't like being a beta tester. Back to the classics

35) Questions and Answers : Windows : system lock using BOINC v4 (Message 20063) Posted 31 Aug 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: > Check this > thread and a few others on these forums. > > So, I'm not the only one with a corrupted disk due to the BOINC/SETI upgrade. > Regretably not, MPBroida. I suspect my daya corruption was due to open files - my FAT is not affected by what happened. In the case of my NT4 system it is formatted NTFS (v4) nad I will assume (for the moment) that it's kernel was able to prevetn system lock up. I'm thinking of trying again on the 98SE machine and using Process Explorer at the same tume, so that I might have a chance of killing BOINC if it happens again. The 98SE machine is expendable to me; the NT machine is not. I'm surprised by 2 things: a) I NEVER had any problems with sETI over the last 5 years, and b) that the Boinc v4 client would be so adversly affected by a remote server failure (I'm assuming again, I know) I agree that unless a user can afford to trash an OS, they should NOT run boinc v4 until this problem is rectified, and I feel that applies to all operations supported by Boinc (sorry, Climate Prediction - I'm just calling it like I see it)

36) Questions and Answers : Windows : system lock using BOINC v4 (Message 20045) Posted 30 Aug 2004 by Zlartibartfast Post: AMD Athlon, VIA chipset, latest Windows 98SE updates from Microsoft (system information report available on request)& no (known) virus. I'm running Seti Classic client 3.08 right now - fine. This AM (about 08:30 CDT) I installed BOINC v4 and got it running on some new data. Approx 11:30 CDT I read on the SETI site that BOINC was down (using a different system other than the one running BOINC), so I went to check on the progress of the BOINC client. I had a windows error dialog on the screen with the "OK" button and the ">>details" button. Repeated clicking on ">>details" did not change anything, repeated clicking on "OK" did not close the dialog, neither did ALT+F4. ALT+spacebar did result in the MOVE and CLOSE menu options but they did not respond - ALT+CTRL+DEL could not bring up the Close Program dialog, ALT+TAB did not allow me to switch tasks. Although I would not describe my system as "hard locked", the only way I could regain control was to reset it. BOINC v4 has been uninstalled and I am running SETI classic until I have been notified that BOINC is really fixed, however long that takes. I am not retracting from SETI, and I am not sharing this information with anyone other than members of your team. If there is any additional info I can provide you to aid in the correction of this problem, please ask. I am eager to help. I'm afraid I know very little about programming, and I doubt that I have any error file(s) to provide you with. Addendum - after a hot restart I have encountered corrupt data (according to scandisk) but it appears that the system itself is Ok. I've been running scandisk for approx 9 hours; it's still in progress. My NT4/SP6 box (Intel P3/Intel 440BX chipset) did not encounter a lock up, it simply could not aquire new data to run. Boinc v4 is removed from that one as well, and Seti classic 3.08 is cranking away at this time.

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