Posts by Bill Walker

1) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1809782)
Posted 17 Aug 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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A few hundred miles north of Bernie's pictures, it has been a wetter than usual summer in Alberta, and the flowers have lasted longer than usual. Photo taken on 6 August.

2) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1809768)
Posted 17 Aug 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Bill - to someone born and brought up in the UK anywhere more than 100km (60 miles) is "in the wilds".....


Well, depends on where you are in Canada. Here in SW Ontario 100 km will take you through several little towns, and maybe one medium sized one. On the prairies 100 km is one or two farms over. In the Territories 100 km is a small bit of the trip to anywhere.
3) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens - Originals only - any subject (Message 1809208)
Posted 15 Aug 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Here is another one to ponder on a hot day. Business trip, 2014.
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4) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1808958)
Posted 13 Aug 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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...thanks for that bit of information Bill - in just over a month's time I will be heading out into the wilds of Canada by train....


From my point of view, if you can get there by train, it's not the wilds. Getting to the wilds involves several days by canoe and/or snowmobile. Although some railroads herabouts let you combine modes of travel.



5) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1808868)
Posted 13 Aug 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Looks like bad planning on the part of the RR. We have some similar stations here in eastern Canada, but VIA has electronic notice boards that tell you in advance what track your train will be on, in very simple terms ("11:45 to Toronto on the other side"). Busier stations, like here in London, have the notices plus a well lit tunnel under the tracks.
6) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1808809)
Posted 13 Aug 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Bernie, Ashland looks like a perfect model railway project. Thanks for the shots.
7) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation Safety 3 (Message 1808053)
Posted 9 Aug 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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A Boeing 737 cargo from Paris to Orio al Serio (Bergamo) overshot the runaway and ended with its nose on a highway during a storm. Fortunately it was 4 AM and the motorists were few so they could avoid it.
Tullio


Reminds me of a radio transmission years ago from a California airport, tower talking to a plane that just landed a bit far down the runway:

"Nxxx left at last exit if possible. If not possible, continue north on I5, take the Elm Street exit, right at the Gulf station back to airport."
8) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Photographs by Setizens - Originals only - any subject (Message 1808052)
Posted 9 Aug 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Agwa Canyon, fall of 2014. I posted the train pictures before, but there was other stuff to see too.

9) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1806631)
Posted 2 Aug 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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The train museum in York is the best I've seen so far. There is a very good museum in Montreal, with Canadian built locos, and the train museum near Edmonton, Alberta is a sentimental favourite. They operate a couple of steam engines in the summer, fond memories of riding them with the kids when they were very young.
10) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Name your top 3+ music artists (Message 1806146)
Posted 31 Jul 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Changes every day. Right now, it is the 3 Bs of classical music:

Bach
Beethoven
Bo-Diddly
11) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! Part III (Message 1804250)
Posted 22 Jul 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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You guys did notice the radio show this is from? The same show that brought stories like "Saskatchewan government to teach teens how to kiss" and "World's first volunteer run, non-profit McDonalds opens in Manitoba". Don't take them too seriously.

WARNING: Canadian humour may be misleading to others.
12) Message boards : Cafe SETI : State Fairs (Message 1803039)
Posted 16 Jul 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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We have town fairs and country fairs here, in a range of sizes. The big ones (like the CNE in Toronto) are probably like your state fairs. My wife and I love the smaller rural fairs. Prizes for best pies and pickles, best handicrafts (my mother-in-law won several knitting awards at her local fair), livestock displays, usually a local car club or antique tractor club display, and lots of good food. Everything from the local ladies auxiliary doing fried chicken and home made corn dogs (not the mass produced crap some places have), to big travelling food trucks with slick new things every year. Deep fried butter, doughnut burgers, etc. They will have a midway with rides and games, but we give those a miss nowadays.
13) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1801224)
Posted 7 Jul 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Finally! fire flies in the back yard the last few nights. A few weeks late, but here they are.
14) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1800640)
Posted 4 Jul 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Now that would be a cool commute.
15) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 78's (Message 1800534)
Posted 4 Jul 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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I find it interesting that everybody digs up info about deterioration of digital data when we discuss backups, but they never offer an alternative. I've recently gained access to original paper records dating back to the 1920s in government archives, and some of them are in rough shape. Paper deteriorating and crumbling, ink and pencil fading, etc. Even stuff as recent as the 1950s can be borderline useless. My Kodachrome slides from the 1960s and 1970s are fading.

Nothing is perfect. Any form of record keeping requires regular production of new backups.
16) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1800246)
Posted 3 Jul 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Just a reminder that not all engines are grey in North America. My daughter used to live about 5 blocks from the Denver yard, a great place for train spotting.

17) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 78's (Message 1799942)
Posted 1 Jul 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Thank you, Bill, for a very thorough explanation. It honestly makes me value my records even more. I have a converter machine from Hammacher Schlemmer that will transfer them to CD, but from what I'm gathering here, that result will not be as durable as an original commercially produced disc.


If the conversions go onto writeable disc, you have about a decade - if you are careful. I have a few of those, burned off records, and I am transferring them all to hard disc. With my regular backup scheme, I'm hoping they will last as long as I do.

I still have just over 300 LPs, with a few new ones bought each month (only because second hand LPs are cheaper than new CDs). I love the sound, but they are prone to mechanical wear. Even on the best record players, you can hear a slight degradation after a few playings. I know a lot of people hate CDs, but they just have different shortcomings compared to LPs, and a lot of us are just used to the LP shortcomings. I'm getting into higher resolution digital formats (24 bit 96 kHz for now) and I think that is the best compromise between playback quality and longevity (again with regular backups).
18) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 78's (Message 1799687)
Posted 30 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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So a commercial CD actually has a braille-like series of binary code imprinted on it?


Not bumps like Braille, but pits. The untouched level area is called a land, pits and lands reflect the laser differently so one is a zero and the other is a one. (Forget which is which). The pits are in a spiral, which can be several miles long if it was unwound. The pits are microscopic.

You start with a thin layer of plastic that gets the pits pressed into the front of them from a metal master. The back is coated with a reflective metal, usually aluminium, then a layer of lacquer (transparent paint) and then the label can be printed on top of that. The other side, with the pits, gets a relatively thick layer of transparent lexan molded onto it. You can scratch and mark this, to some degree, but the pits and lands are untouched unless you get all the way through the lexan. Hence the durability of this type of CD. You just have to make sure the all the layers bond well to each other.

On a standard CD it takes 16 bits to make a single burst of music that is 1/44,000 of a second long. (thats 0.000022727 seconds.) Most modern CD players have some sort of error checking, so if a single pit or land gets read wrong the 16 bit number will fail parity check, and get replaced with the average of the number before and the number after. (More expensive players can have fancier error correction that can handle multiple read errors.) A single substitution like this is not audible. If you scratch or mark the lexan in a curve parallel to the edge of the disc you can screw up multiple numbers one after another, and then the error correction can sound weird, or even lead to skipping or periods of silence.

Fortunately, if you have scratches the lexan is polish-able with something like Brasso. You don't have to polish out the entire scratch, just round off the edges. The sharp corners screw up the laser light and lead to reading errors. Just make sure you get all the fine dust off the disc before you put in your player. I do this quite regularly with second hand CDs and even loaners from the public library. Dish soap in warm water works well for finger prints and other substances on the lexan. As long as the pits and lands are untouched, you can get back all the music.
19) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1799682)
Posted 30 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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The wife and I were just commenting that we haven't seen any lightning bugs so far this year, which is not normal. Hopefully this is just natural cycles, and they will return in the future. Chipmunks, on the other hand, have overrun the place this year.
20) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 78's (Message 1799037)
Posted 27 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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A lot depends on how the CD was made and how it is treated. Volume production usually molds the 0s and 1s into a plastic base and then covers that in lexan. If you keep that away from heat and solvents, and don't scratch the lexan too much, it should last a few centuries. If you use dye based writable Cds, which some smaller publishers do, don't expect it to last much more than a decade. Much less, if the dye is exposed to UV, like sunight.

The examples above sound like poor quality control in applying the lexan layer.
21) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 78's (Message 1798959)
Posted 27 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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1 old 78 that I liked was Spike Jones & the City Slickers William Tell Overture.

Cheers.


A classic. I have it on CD, another reason I didn't hang on to the 78s.
22) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1798556)
Posted 24 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Taking a more-awake look at it, it would appear that 7273 can attach to a slug at the front end as well as the rear. Those big cables are not standard.


Makes sense for a yard shifter, especially in this yard. This is the new style Canadian yard, probably 20 miles long and includes several sawmills, refineries, and large loading docks. It is moving heavy loads in all directions.
23) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation Safety 3 (Message 1798553)
Posted 24 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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I'm thinking you'd need inclinometers.

No. Accelerometers (3 axis) are what are inside a smartphone and it knows up. After all gravity is an acceleration. Remember your general relativity.

Yep.
But would the accelerometers in a car be sensitive enough to be effective on a slight slope (considering they have to deal with considerable vibration in general operation)?
I guess it would depends how good the software is.

Two other things just came to mind:

GPS map databse which may have altitude information.

How is the software to know there is a curb? Wheels turn a different direction.


Don't count on GPS. It is good to maybe + or - 20 meters. Your moving map looks good because the software clicks you to the nearest road. Watch it when you drive past a shallow Y in the road, it can get tricked and show you on the wrong branch for a few seconds.

Car accelerometers I'm familiar with sense horizontal plane accelerations, for anti-skid braking and such. Nothing showing vertical offset. The parking assist sensors look for other cars, not curbs.
24) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! Part III (Message 1798550)
Posted 24 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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I don't think anyone I know (except the penny pincher who drives a stick for the better gas mileage) uses a parking brake as routine.
____________

I drive manual transmissions because they are more fun to drive.


Me too. Always use the manual parking brake on the manual shift car. Never use it on the automatic SUV that the wife drives. Modern automatic transmission parking brakes are just as reliable and functional as the manual brake. Manual brakes, on some cars, have a problem in this country of parts of the moving mechanism being exposed to ice and snow. End result can be the brake not set when you think it is, or not released when you think it is. The Park setting on the auto transmission is all enclosed, and not subject to weather issues.
25) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation Safety 3 (Message 1798482)
Posted 24 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Regarding turning the wheels to the curb, do cars that have automatic parallel parking do that when they finish?


They would need to know if they were facing uphill or downhill, don't think current cars have a sensor for that.
26) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1798416)
Posted 24 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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I think you are right David, the one in the middle is a slug, not a calf.
27) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1798282)
Posted 24 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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An interesting yard shifter consist from Thunder Bay, two cows and one calf. And another reminder that not all North American trains are grey.

28) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! Part III (Message 1797121)
Posted 18 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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When will people learn NOT to open "phishy" emails????
Companies paid more than $3.1B to fake-CEO email scams

Email scammers, often pretending to be CEOs, have duped businesses into giving away at least $3.1 billion, according to new data from the FBI.



I spent several years supporting the legal department of a major multi-national, and I was amazed at how many times employees fell for mail and e-mail scams. Their job was to process invoices as fast as possible, so if they received something that remotely resembled an invoice they would cut a cheque. No time, and no motivation, to think about it. I put together a half day training course for these people, that we figure saved $10,000 plus in the first year. Most of the scams were a few hundred bucks or less, but they came in daily.
29) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1797119)
Posted 18 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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LSM and I saw a pelican over the river when we were coming back from
Edmonton the other day. There are a lot more hunting birds around this
year. I saw a cardinal a couple of years back, and I was hoping it was
warm enough this year for a repeat showing. It is even better than that,
the cycle won't be complete for another two years so there is lots better
to come in animal numbers alone.



We have had steadily increasing numbers of cardinals in the yard over the last few years. There are at least two nesting pairs this year, and their offspring are starting to show up at the feeders. I read somewhere that the average cardinal never travels more than a few kilometres from where it was born, so it make take some time for them to penetrate into central Alberta.
30) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation Safety 3 (Message 1796749)
Posted 17 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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From the photo, the incident should have been survivable to any passengers. Train is upright, coach volumes intact, no objects penetrating occupied areas. The alternative might have been to allow the train to drive on into annother occupied train, or an occupied platform, or into structure that would penetrate the coaches. De-railing is probably the lesser of many evils.

The REAL way to prevent this accident is to not drive through red lights.
31) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1793563)
Posted 5 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Chet Baker, Live at the Keystone Corner.
32) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V8 (Message 1793017)
Posted 3 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Grant wins. Over to you. It is for fletching, or placing the feathers on the back end of the shaft. Or as some engineers would call it, the anti-pointy end.
33) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V8 (Message 1792549)
Posted 1 Jun 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Thanks for the win. We had a similar one awhile back, here is a modern one. Slightly photoshopped to remove obvious clues.

34) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V8 (Message 1792092)
Posted 30 May 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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I forget the name, but don't they use big discs like this when tuning drums?
35) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V8 (Message 1791738)
Posted 29 May 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Some sort of parting saw?
36) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1791539)
Posted 29 May 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Don't let the fore ground fool you, the photo was taken on the Pacific coast in 1986, on a man made point leading out to a massive coal sea port facility.
When I was flying around that area regularly in the late 1970s it was a treat to watch these unit trains. They would unload, and switch engines, without stopping. They then ran back to the coal mines up in the mountains. The coal would move on to Japan, China or South Korea. Canada smokes up the world. These are SD40s, all looking somewhat shiny and new.

37) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1790548)
Posted 26 May 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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I have noticed over the last few years that both CN and CP are taking better care of their older equipment. You see old equipment like this, but you don't see old rusty, dirty equipment with the paint flaking off very much any more.

The smaller Canadian lines are another matter, however. This is Ontario Northland from last fall, at Thunder Bay.
38) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1790538)
Posted 26 May 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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For all you Californians who wonder where your margarine comes from. A train load of canola seed out of Saskatchewan, bound for the BNSF at Vancouver and then on to California. Canada feeds the world.

39) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday to Angela! (Message 1790430)
Posted 26 May 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Happy day after your birthday Ms. Korpela.
40) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 78's (Message 1786878)
Posted 12 May 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Just junked about 20 or so of my parents 78s, with some sadness. They had a much larger collection, but several moves wore it down. I looked into selling them, but there are very few collectable 78s these days, and my parents tastes didn't measure up. The few American pop recordings they had (like a teenage Doris Day) have so flooded the market that several web sites that buy and sell 78s have them on their list of "don't bother" artists.

My father had a lot of bag pipe music, and a few, from one particular label, were slightly collectable. If I paid $4 each to ship them to the UK, a dealer there would pay me $3 for each of them.

I looked into adding a 78 player to the sound system, but we are trying to downsize now (empty nesters) and I just couldn't justify the money or the space to play 20 albums. And I collect enough junk already, didn't want to start buying more 78s. I had trimmed my LP collection down to about 400, and then discovered some local places that sell old jazz LPs, and that number is creeping up.;)
41) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1786818)
Posted 11 May 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Thanks for that Bernie.
42) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What If... (Message 1786817)
Posted 11 May 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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James, I was about to tell Sarge sorry, I don't remember, so thanks from both of us.

Crunchy, my theory is that eventually, the universe will stop expanding and start shrinking again, which will finally result in all the matter slamming back together into one microscopic dot again, the force of which action will cause it to explode out all over again in another Big Bang. It then follows that there is no reason to assume that we are currently in the first iteration of this phenomenon.

Or as Douglas Adams put it, there is a theory that if anyone ever finds out what the universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced with something even more bizarrely inexplicable. There is another theory that this has already happened.


That was the belief a few years ago, but according to people who know much more about these things than I do it appears that dark matter and dark energy have screwed up that calculation, and the rate of expansion may actually be increasing. That means we end with a cold dark whimper, not another bang.

Relying on these same bright people, the current thinking is that the big bang could have happened from nothing, based on current interpretations of quantum theory. It also follows that big bangs can be occurring over and over, in other dimensions. So, we are probably not the first or the last, but are not part of any continuing cycle.
43) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Canada Fire (Message 1786772)
Posted 11 May 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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I have a Calgary friend who has told me some politics are involved and I can't quote him here because it would be moderated. Seriously.

No doubt, it gots to be politics.
From 1971 till 2015, 44 years, the Progressive Conservative Party ruled in Alberta, till the NDP (Canadian socialists) won to form a majority government.
There will be no end to the political machinations, and grumbling, for years to come.
For a lot of people Whining is their default setting.
Maybe your friend shouldn't listen to them?


Do people really believe the trees and bushes paid attention to who was in power? Until somebody shows me an untouched photo of an elected Member of Parliament lighting the fire, these articles are unworthy of discussion.

BTW, some of these articles are from the same blogs and e-magazines that blame the current Alberta government for causing the world collapse of oil prices that occurred several months before the party was elected. Logic and serious thinking is clearly lacking.

If you want to find a human link, blame global climate change. Rising temperatures and changing moisture patterns are changing how the fire behave, but the fires have been there since the end of the last ice age, maybe even earlier. Another human change is the spread of cities and towns into what used to wilderness. There have been fires this large in northern Alberta in the past, they just never ran into significant human presence before they burned themselves out.

BTW, if we blame climate change and the spread of urbanization, who carries the most blame: the current party (in for 9 months) or the previous party (in for 41 years before that)?
44) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1786769)
Posted 11 May 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Another of those long North American trains. This was a scheduled run in rural BC in 2014, not sure if the service still operates.

45) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favorite trees (Message 1785335)
Posted 7 May 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Don't know where you are Gordon, but at my latitude the blue spruce grow very slowly. The big one in some recent pictures here would be about 50 years old here in southern Ontario.
46) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation Safety 3 (Message 1784823)
Posted 4 May 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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I'd think dispatching some backhoes to lower the road might be a better response.


We have a low height underpass down town here, that gets hit several times a year. The city looked into the backhoe option, but it would include lowering a water main and a storm sewer, plus changing the drainage for several blocks around. Not a small job. The railroad, of course, is not too willing to pay for any of this, the charter they got in 1857 limits their liability. The railroad has installed sacrificial barriers on each side, and that is what gets hit.

Here is a recent picture of the fun and games.

47) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favorite trees (Message 1784192)
Posted 2 May 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Has to be a maple, eh. Any kind, but I'm particularly fond of the red ones.

48) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! Part III (Message 1783863)
Posted 1 May 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Boom? Really? Please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuNcSp2T4Lw


I love it!
49) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1783348)
Posted 29 Apr 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Mister W!!!

...
I'll have you know that my beautiful, gentle, sweet and charming little woodland friends DO NOT have "filthy little paws"!!! They have frequently washed, perfect little pristine paws!!!



Based on what they leave on the ground next to my garbage cans, they had filthy little paws for at least part of the time.
50) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1782734)
Posted 27 Apr 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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My thought was that it would make an interesting jigsaw puzzle.
51) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1782731)
Posted 27 Apr 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Strategically placed bungee cords = problem solved


Yes and no. The local raccoons figured out bungee cords several years ago. They can't undo them, but they can knock the can on its side (placing garbage up against the lid), and then stretch the cord enough to get their filthy little paws into the can. Took me a while to figure this out, as what you find in the morning is a can on its side, bungees and lid intact, with chewed garbage all around. It takes a combination of locking handles and bungees to defeat them now, and even then I need to get a new brand of locking handles every few years, as they figure these out eventually.
52) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1782727)
Posted 27 Apr 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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All this grey! It really is too much!

As a tonic, I offer a recent photo that shows North American colour, North American long trains, and North American spring weather this year. Picture taken today in eastern Ontario.

53) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Anyone´s leaving the project ? (Message 1779287)
Posted 15 Apr 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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I agree. The points awarded for S@H are outrageous. Everybody should leave the project as a sign of their disgust.

Then I might finally get a Greenbank WU...
54) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1776652)
Posted 6 Apr 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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I think the issue in North America is the large number of uncontrolled crossings, mostly rural with very light vehicle traffic. This accident was on a Class 1 line, with 25+ trains a day, a lot of Class 2 lines see one or two trains a week.

According to Wikipedia (I know) Canada and the US total about 267,000 miles of track. Germany, France, Italy, UK and Spain total 130,000 miles.
55) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1776467)
Posted 6 Apr 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/via-train-car-collide-near-london-ont-killing-2-1.3520018

This is about an hour from my house, and I've driven the crossing a few times. Flashing lights and buckboards, but no barrier. The land is dead flat, with good visibility of trains from both directions. Initial reports are that lights were working, train was doing about 60 mph. Kind of amazed this could happen at this location. The road was probably slippery, from snow the previous night, remains to be seen if this was a factor.
56) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1776027)
Posted 3 Apr 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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While looking for something else, stumbled on some video of a track cleaner in New Jersey.
57) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1774337)
Posted 27 Mar 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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The line was out of use, but it is still sad to see it go. These old wooden trestles are being filled or replaced, one by one, but this one got missed.
58) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If you were going to live in the USA which state would you choose to live in? (Message 1773583)
Posted 24 Mar 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Having lived in California and Oklahoma, I would pick the State of Denial.
59) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rock make overs (Message 1771834)
Posted 16 Mar 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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One of my favorites in this niche genre: Beatles Go Baroque.
60) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V8 (Message 1770347)
Posted 8 Mar 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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A minor point, my small engine guy called it a crankshaft seal installer. I guess both are correct.
61) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V8 (Message 1770179)
Posted 7 Mar 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Pretty sure a constant speed and variable pitch are the same thing. Fixed pitch is the type that would not require this tool.


Forgive the thread drift, but you are in my field now ;)

Variable pitch is one method of achieving constant speed, and the most common one we see today (at least on seized wing). Back when Pontius was a pilot, and the air regs were carved in stone, there were manually adjusted variable pitch props, that only sorta kinda gave constant speed.

But after showing the picture to some Friends In The Know, it is nothing to do with props. But close.....
62) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V8 (Message 1769934)
Posted 6 Mar 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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I'm somewhat surprised Bill Walker doesn't know what it is.


I'm sure I have seen it, and I'm sure it was a tin basher that owned it. Of course, he could have been multi talented.
63) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V8 (Message 1769810)
Posted 5 Mar 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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For shaping sheet metal?
64) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1769617)
Posted 5 Mar 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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GO (Government of Ontario) is not so superstitious.

65) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1768924)
Posted 2 Mar 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Apparently, these guys are really serious about the Great Lakes Basin Railway. When you get to the last page, if you click the link to the company, their map is very interesting. It still shows rail lines that are long abandoned. This simultaneously annoys and pleases me. Annoys because it's bad info, pleases because I can see in good detail where these lines used to be.


In Canada a rail company can own certain land rights even after the tracks are removed, like the right to run electrical or telephone lines. for some companies, that is a big part of their value. Maybe GLBR is in a similar situation,and wants to sell or rent the unused lines?
66) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1768437)
Posted 28 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
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Does it store multiple attachments in the case? Used for precision work, like watches or electronics?
67) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1768156)
Posted 27 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sort of looks like a pocket oiler I received in my Christmas stocking many years ago.
68) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1767648)
Posted 26 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Never had a trading card in North America, so that Flubbing Scotchman can't be THAT famous....





69) Message boards : Cafe SETI : odd music covers (Message 1767402)
Posted 25 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A Canadian act.
70) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1767058)
Posted 23 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
How soon until all the raccoons stupid enough to walk into traps get caught and eliminated from the gene pool, and there are nothing but smart raccoons left in NYC to have babies.

Trapping the dumb ones only makes the population, as a whole, smarter...


A few Canadian scientists are saying exactly that about Toronto urban raccoons. They predict they are evolving fast enough that they will become a distinct species within a century or two.
71) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Pancakes (Message 1767045)
Posted 23 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I just saw something about making maple syrup on TV a couple
of days ago. They said it takes 40 gallons of maple sap to make
one gallon of maple syrup.

That might explain why it's so expensive.


That sounds more like litres, not gallons. The watery stuff they make in Ontario takes about 10 gallons (30 litres), while the real stuff from Quebec takes a bit more. Of course, if you want maple sugar, you start with about 10 gallons of syrup to make two gallons of sugar.



In any case, it still takes a long time, and a lot of trees to even get 10 litres of sap. That's a big part of why it is so expensive.
72) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When you were just a young setibrat, what kind of music did your family listen to on your radio/stereo/music player? (Message 1764339)
Posted 12 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm with you Bob. There are still some classical pieces that I can't listen to without thinking of Bugs and Elmer. "Kill the wabbit, kill the wabbit...".
73) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1764223)
Posted 12 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
At the risk of going off topic: Canadian prairie greenness is very variable. Even acres of grain have a few weeks of green in the spring, and even at the height of July and August you can find pockets of green amongst the wheat fields, if you know the local water flow.





As for the roads, the better used gravel roads are truly all season, with good drainage. In that picture several posts up of the CP and BNSF locos, you can tell it was shot in the US because it shows a paved road without ditches. Just wouldn't happen in Canada.

74) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1764188)
Posted 12 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A couple of tracks that were still working 35 years ago are just scars on the landscape now and the occasional "odd" road name like Railway Ave in Jenner.


Tracks are being pulled up and sold for scrap across Canada on a regular basis these days. As long as the roads are in place, the small towns will remain, although some get smaller. Even the Prairie Skyscrapers get pulled down.

75) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1764174)
Posted 11 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In other words the whole freight shebang is run on a shoestring.



I spent some time in Canada - Alberta, out there they have or had single track lines that are only used for a very short period every year, just to collect grain after the harvest and maybe the odd train for cattle.

These lines were probably built before roads, most roads out in the sticks in this area are gravel not tarmac.

Just had a look on google maps satellite, looks like I am out of date the metals are missing.


Yeah, in the west especially the railroads pre-dated public roads. 100+ years ago everything in and out of these towns moved by train. A lot of these lines are now abandoned, or only used seasonally, as you said. For the low volumes in and out of a small agricultural town, trucks are fine. the trains that are left only move large amounts: ore out of mines, cars by the hundreds out of huge factories, etc.

There are a few modern ghost towns in western Canada, that resulted from the tracks being closed before the roads were developed in that local area. Some of them were abandoned only 60 or 70 years ago.

76) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1764142)
Posted 11 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

In other words the whole freight shebang is run on a shoestring.


Maybe this is just playing with words, but if you define "on a shoestring" as not spending more money than you need to make money, then yes. Anything else would literally be criminal with a public traded company. The shareholders would probably give you the boot before the trade regulators caught up with you.

Most freight derailments, especially on side lines, don't result in more damage than a truck blowing a tire, and therefore get about the same news coverage. If it doesn't bleed, it doesn't lead.

I guess in a perfectly run country you wouldn't have derailments, like this one at Langworth in July 2015, or Wyndmonham in October 2015, or Dundee in September 2015, or...

I suspect these make the news in the UK because the are more likely to interrupt passenger services than a similar accident in North America. If you derail a train on the spur leading into The Acme Box factory in Gopher Gulch, it may be big news in Gopher Gultch, but nobody else really cares.
77) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1764100)
Posted 11 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

In which case that could infer low freight charges due to very minimal track maintenance.


What is does mean is a different definition of "minimum maintenance" depending on what travels on the track. Some of the freight spurs around here look pretty rough, but a boxcar full of stuff doesn't mind moving slowly and the occasional bump. Here is a picture from New Brunswick in 2003. Spending more money on track maintenance here wouldn't earn the rail road an extra penny.



The dedicated Go Train tracks around Toronto, on the other hand, are very well maintained. The customer wants a fast, smooth ride, or they will go elsewhere. You can regularly see lots of expensive work being done on the commuter rails. Here is a November 2015 shot, showing the main east-west line going past the Go maintenance yard in east Toronto. The construction on the left is an expansion of the yard, to include more storage track and engine workshops.

78) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When you were just a young setibrat, what kind of music did your family listen to on your radio/stereo/music player? (Message 1764071)
Posted 11 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I was lucky enough to grow up in a house full of music. My mother's family were almost all musical, and I have great memories of family sing alongs featuring several guitars, a fiddle and sometimes an accordion. My parents had a large 78 collection, a lot of western swing, 50s pop, and of course bag pipes (my father started his military career in a highland regiment). We listened to a lot of CBC radio, and that is where I discovered classical and jazz.

I started collecting 45s and LPs at about age 12. Beatles, Dave Clark 5, Donovan. When the 60s got into full swing I discovered "folk" as they then called it. Byrds, Dylan, Joni Mitchell. Plus a few obscure ones, like the Holy Modal Rounders and Spider John. I still have a few albums I bought in the 1960s.

All this led to my current obsession with music. I'm getting into high rez on my computer, played back through a Dragonfly DAC into the full stereo rig. These are great times for a music lover.
79) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1764057)
Posted 11 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just beats me why they don't spend more money on manufacturing goods locally.


Part of the answer is economy of scale in the manufacturing plants. Unit costs of an item made in one large factory will be less than the unit costs from multiple small factories. The difference can be more than enough to pay for freight. The really big companies do have multiple manufacturing facilities, but each has to be of a size that makes economic sense. So, you still have goods and raw materials being shipped around.

Why does CN & CP own track in someone elses country? Does the US own Canadian track? If so why?


CN and CP are historically Canadian, but have really become multi-national. Under North American Free Trade this is happening more and more with most large companies. Again, it is economies of scale. After you merge Canadian, US, and Mexican companies to be competitive, it is more coincidence than nationalism that determines what the name is, and where the head office ends up.
80) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1763971)
Posted 11 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You know Chris, if somebody asked me for typical colours of North American rail, I would have picked red and orange, not grey.

81) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to? (Message 1762932)
Posted 6 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hayden's baryton trios.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP613tBAa6Q
82) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Pancakes (Message 1762740)
Posted 6 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
How can you possibly eat a pancake with anything other than maple syrup on it? It boggles the mind.

83) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1761731)
Posted 3 Feb 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Early Spring?


Maybe in the States, but things are not so clear Up North.
84) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ad slogans and jingles (Message 1761020)
Posted 31 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Its amazing how the tunes and the words stick in your mind after many decades. No idea what ESSO makes that would make my mouth water, but here is one for the Canucks. What product was it that you needed "one at noon, one at night, and one along the way"?
85) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1759363)
Posted 26 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For bending metal tubes?
86) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1758173)
Posted 22 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Once again, confusion caused by different uses of the English language. I used to believe that "Brits drink their beer at room temperature" line, until I spent a few nights in UK hotels. I now know that what a Brit calls "room temperature" is the same as what a Canuck calls "fresh out of the fridge".
87) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1757532)
Posted 20 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Our back yard blue jays prefer peanuts in the shell over shelled. They will struggle to get the peanuts in the shell out of a wire ring holder we use, and not go for the shelled peanuts in the nearby tray until the ring is empty. (Not my photo, but that is the kind of ring holder we have.)

88) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1757459)
Posted 19 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very interesting Carlos. Probably wouldn't fit in most small planes. Here is what I'm used to.

89) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1757314)
Posted 18 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Close enough Admiral. It is a non-magnetic screw driver, used to adjust iron balance masses inside a magnetic compass as part of the compass alignment process. The moving masses balance out fields produced by the metal in the airplane (or boat or whatever), obviously you need a non-magnetic tool near the compass while doing this. In the airplane biz we call the process "swinging the compass", since the airplane gets spun around while it is done. It has been done this way for a long time.

90) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1757242)
Posted 18 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, two of you have it. Come on, out with it.
91) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1757193)
Posted 17 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is it non-magnetic?


Missed this one sorry.

Yes, it is non-magnetic. That is half the answer I'm looking for.
92) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1757192)
Posted 17 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is it used to work on aircraft?


Yes, amongst other things.
93) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1757117)
Posted 17 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, a little snow can make for good train spotting. Picture taken on OSR spur line near Tillsonburg, about an hour from my house, in January 2014.

94) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The absence of Celttooth (Message 1757115)
Posted 17 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks for the update. Please pass my best wishes to your dad.
95) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1757114)
Posted 17 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You could probably pick your teeth with it, but that is not its intended use.

"Electronics" is an interesting question. The device this is used on is not, itself, electronic, and does not need electronics to be useful, but it may be part of an electronic system. Or it may not. That's your clue for today.
96) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1756978)
Posted 16 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not THE Doctor. (you know Who.)

But, if you use a broad definition of doctor, the person using is sorta kinda a doctor.
97) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1756931)
Posted 16 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not medical.
98) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1756918)
Posted 16 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Metal, but not your usual screwdriver metal.
99) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1756257)
Posted 14 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Time for another clue. It looks like a screwdriver, and the things that get turned have threads, but they are not screws (in the sense that screws hold things together).
100) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1756031)
Posted 13 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I thought this was the English anthem...
101) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1755844)
Posted 12 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
braking screws loose


Nope. Time for a hint: when I used to use one of these it came with a short lanyard on the handle, because you could really upset certain people by dropping it while using it.
102) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1755610)
Posted 11 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sonic screwdriver!


Half right. Still need its special properties, and its special purpose.
103) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1755571)
Posted 11 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not a punch.
Not hardened.
Don't know about number on the end.
104) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1755557)
Posted 11 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, we all know what this looks like. But it has special properties, and is used for a special purpose. I need both for the win.

105) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1755457)
Posted 10 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is that an official win?
106) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1755229)
Posted 10 Jan 2016 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hooks up to an air wrench, to spread springs.
107) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation Safety 3 (Message 1751385)
Posted 23 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You're right Richard. There is a HUGE debate going on in Canada about doctors (especially surgeons) being required to use check lists by hospital management. Quite a few doctors argue that this somehow cheapens their careers. The fact that it occasionally saves lives appears to be of secondary importance to them.

I run into this mentality quite regularly when investigating machinery accidents. I've come to call these people "too cool for rules". I often hose their remains out of the works before starting my investigation.

(Feel free to move this post to Politics if needed. I never go there any more.)
108) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! Part III (Message 1751335)
Posted 23 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As a big fan of efficiency, I like to say sextuple-u.
109) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation Safety 3 (Message 1751272)
Posted 23 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very interesting story David. In flight test we call this "learning to ignore what doesn't kill you right away". Humans are just too flexible, they will quickly adapt to anything that doesn't offer an immediate dissuader. You skip check lists, you ignore buzzers and lights, and if you are still alive it is so much easier to repeat the action the next time. The most dangerous part on any aircraft is the sloppy link between the control stick and the throttle.

The automation and drone crowds, BTW, supports this theory 100%. Computers don't have this problem.
110) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1751139)
Posted 22 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Would a vet use them?
111) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1750824)
Posted 21 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The flanges may contact the rail when going around a corner, that's what produces the squealing noise you sometimes hear. In order to derail a car with a lateral load you need to lift the wheel enough that the flange rides over the rail. That requires a lot of energy. I'm told that a heavy car on a really tight curve will often grind to a stop before derailing. The main operational problem with curves is the extra drag produced, not derailing. As a previous post said, tight curves plus a slope can be especially painful.
112) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1750406)
Posted 19 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And we did some long cuts in Canada, when it made economic sense (usually in the east, where higher population densities made land more expensive).


We also did some amazing 19th century bridge projects, where big river valleys had to be crossed.
113) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1750402)
Posted 19 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris, I'm sure UK railroads have curves too. Same laws of physics there as here. As several posters pointed out, centrifugal force is balanced by lateral coupler loads. BTW, grain cars are much lighter than the same length of, say, coal cars, and that keeps coupler loads and centrifugal forces lower.

Richard's link on food miles is interesting, but not very realistic. Much of the grain on that train will feed people thousands of miles away, where they can't grow enough grain to feed themselves. We either grow the grain where we can and transport it, or uproot a few billion people and move them to where the grain does grow (and hope the grain still grows there after said few billions move in). Which do you think is easier to do?

The curving of the track is emphasized a bit by a long photo lens. If you have ever seen contour maps, the rail line tries to follow a contour (line of constant elevation). This keeps the force required to move the train low, which reduces the coupler loads, and reduces the fuel consumption, and makes long trains going around corners possible.

Back in the heydays of railway construction, the UK had ten times the population to pay for one tenth or less of the mileage we built in Canada. Big cuts like this make economic sense there. In Canada we had fewer people, less money, but more cheap (even free) land. Different "right answer" with different input conditions. (BTW, is that Sir Topham-Hatt on the right in the photo?)

114) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1749892)
Posted 17 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Searching back through RailPictures.Net for photos from places I've been. Here is two miles of Canadian grain on its way to the world near Moose Jaw, in 2011.

115) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! Part III (Message 1749542)
Posted 16 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
@Celt & all the others north of the 49th parallel

Just make sure you don't sell it all, you might just suck in some polluted air from the south.

Canadians are selling cans of fresh air to China


Don't worry, if it is at all successful we will farm out the manufacture to a Chinese firm.
116) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1749504)
Posted 15 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Train meets art. The CP Christmas train on the high Level Bridge at Lethbridge.
117) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1749490)
Posted 15 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used to expand o-rings when installing them over rods or pistons. Posted a similar picture here a few years back.
118) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1749489)
Posted 15 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Forgive the late reply, been out of town a few days. Ships usually retain the containers a bit better, but it appears they have some leeway in this. I've been involved in shipping airplanes and large airplane parts parts around the world for some years now, and I know you can pay extra to have your container more securely tied down. Makes you wonder what you get when you don't pay extra.



In Canada, truck transport is supposed to use secondary tie downs for containers, such as straps or locking pins (usually this has part of the pin turning 90 degrees after the container is in place). Sadly, they still come off once in awhile, probably because of operators taking short cuts in securing.

119) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1747903)
Posted 9 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks for that Rob. You learn something every day.
120) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1747857)
Posted 9 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Had to go back to 2007 to find Budd cars on this train (The Ocean, from Montreal to Halifax).

121) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1747856)
Posted 9 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And the same train 5 years ago, with a Canadian built Budd observation car at the back. Looking at the height differences, I think my first post must be Renaissance cars.

122) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1747849)
Posted 9 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm not sure David. The Via Renaissance cars I'm familiar with have light blue sides, these appear to be unpainted stainless steel sides. That used to mean Budd cars, but they are being slowly retired.

Added in edit: It may just be the lighting. Here is the same train 3 years ago, and these appear to be Renaissance cars.
123) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1747778)
Posted 8 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Raccoon makes the evening news in Toronto.
124) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1747735)
Posted 8 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here is another winter theme, and proof for some Brits that we still have a few passenger trains in Canada. Picture taken on Saturday, in New Brunswick. The engine and cars are the usual Via Rail mix of old and new.

125) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Orange or Red? (Message 1747246)
Posted 6 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I had an orange Toyota years ago, the dealer called it "burnt copper". whatever that means. I say the car is redish.
126) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1746614)
Posted 3 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks for that David. I was wondering about the GP40 bits at one end and SD45 bits at the other.
127) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1746545)
Posted 3 Dec 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
After all the pictures of UK leaf cleaning trains, thought you might be interested in a North american one. Photo taken last month in Maplewood, NJ. Have to admit, in all my years of on and off train spotting in Canada, I've never seen one of these in person. We do have enough leaves though.
128) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1745693)
Posted 29 Nov 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, it is that time of the year again. Took the kids down to see one of these about 15 years ago, they are really impressive in person. Picture taken yesterday, near Montreal.

129) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1745305)
Posted 27 Nov 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well that was quick. Over to you J. Mileski.
130) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1745257)
Posted 27 Nov 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Did we do this one some time ago? If so, I have another picture ready. If not, what is this, or at least what is it used for?

131) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1745150)
Posted 27 Nov 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just got back from a long day working and drinking with old friends. I will try to post something in the morning.
132) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1744915)
Posted 26 Nov 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used to create a vent hole in cows suffering from extreme gas. It has a fancy medical name, but I can't remember it.
133) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Holiday Fruitcake... love it or leave it? (Message 1744425)
Posted 24 Nov 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hereabouts, there are a few bulk stores that have candied fruit year round. But you have to know where to go.
134) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tipping (Message 1743013)
Posted 18 Nov 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My experiences in Scandinavia, where tipping is pretty much unknown, is that most service staff makes an effort to make your experience pleasant, or at least not too unpleasant. Sure, you run into the occasional jerk, but they are the exception. They still know that you won't come back if you don't like the service.
135) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tipping (Message 1742337)
Posted 15 Nov 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In parts of Europe tipping is unheard of, partly because they pay the staff well enough. It certainly makes life easier.

I'm a big believer in servers earning their tip, although my wife sometimes calls me a cheap old bastard as a result. She's two-thirds right (my parents were married).
136) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1742209)
Posted 15 Nov 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For installing/removing circuit boards? I'm thinking of old style RAM cards.
137) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1740401)
Posted 7 Nov 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I am aware of many cases of domestic dogs and wolves inter-breeding. Spend some time on a western Canadian farm, and you would be too.
138) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Warp (Message 1739213)
Posted 2 Nov 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The answer is easy: move to Saskatchewan. they don't do Daylight Saving, haven't for many years now.

Neither does Arizona. ;-) :-)


Those crazy westerners...
139) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Warp (Message 1739211)
Posted 2 Nov 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The answer is easy: move to Saskatchewan. they don't do Daylight Saving, haven't for many years now.
140) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LBVCR 2015 (Message 1739210)
Posted 2 Nov 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very cool Bernie.
141) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1735828)
Posted 21 Oct 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That JCB was a Cat. But then you Brits call all vacuums Hovers.
142) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Weather Forecasts VII (Message 1735175)
Posted 18 Oct 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not just in Cresson., Picture taken 5 minutes ago out back.

143) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1734285)
Posted 15 Oct 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All right, all you Brit train spotters: what is this and where was I when I took the photo?

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144) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1734267)
Posted 14 Oct 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Food preparation?
145) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1733872)
Posted 13 Oct 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Does it turn your crappy earbuds into crappy speakers?
146) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1733766)
Posted 12 Oct 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That would slow you down some.
147) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V7 (Message 1733701)
Posted 12 Oct 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For making sausages?
148) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1733623)
Posted 11 Oct 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I saw two repeated cases of crows apparently playing just for the heck of it, when I lived on Vancouver Island.

1. Our new house, on the edge of town, backed on a large group of old growth trees that were home to a flock of crows. Every night, just before it got dark, the crows would fly around in the trees, at about half the height of the trees, as fast as they could. I could never see any benefit of this behaviour, but it sure looked like fun.

2. My wife's office overlooked an inflatable tennis court cover. Right after a rain, the plastic bubble would be very slippery. Groups of crows would land near the top, where the bubble was more or less flat, and then slide down the bubble, which got steeper and steeper the further down you got. They would partially spread their wings for balance, and then finally fly away just before they lost control. They would do this repeatedly until the bubble started to dry off. Again, can't see any benefit from this behaviour, but it was probably a lot of fun.
149) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1732361)
Posted 6 Oct 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

PS whilst typing this I had the Chicago camera on and once again I have head a very loud siren, I keep meaning to ask what they are, I assume some sort of test, but what for?



150) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #62 (Message 1732061)
Posted 5 Oct 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, that is ten, and some good ones. I liked the ones that captured the true nature of the hard pressed mechanic:

Third place to Russell, "Why's it always me that has to clean the bird crap off..."

Second place to Carlos, "Do I have time to change the oil too."

And first place to JaundicedEye who captured the ongoing mechanic's struggle with reality, "Was that clockwise or anti-clockwise?"

In case you are wondering, the guy in the photo is really changing spark plugs in flight. There was a craze back in the 1930s and into the 1950s of setting world endurance records in light aircraft like these. Fuel and food was passed up to the aircraft several times a day from a truck driving at high speed across the California desert, and regular maintenance was performed by climbing to a high altitude, shutting down the engine, and then having one crew member climb out and work really really fast. From memory, these guys eventually set records of over 50 days in the air. By the way, the used plugs were just pitched out. This was before liability lawyers.
151) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #62 (Message 1731648)
Posted 3 Oct 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thank you Rob.

Lets try this one.

152) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #62 (Message 1730787)
Posted 1 Oct 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is that bacon?
153) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1729269)
Posted 26 Sep 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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I think it is a ballast tamper. It lifts a section of rails and ties, compacts the ballast underneath, and then repositions the section. Like Ry Cooder said, you gotta tamp 'em up solid, so they won't come down.
154) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1722951)
Posted 6 Sep 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Both are in the Thompson River valley.


Thanks, Bill.


I think I found the first one on Google Earth. The bridge is at 50°39'55.37"N, 121°18'42.05"W. That's about 5 klicks south of Ashcroft, as the crow flies.
155) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1722864)
Posted 6 Sep 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And here is how the Chinese pay for all that potash: a string of containers, full of TVs and cellphones and other gadgets, heads eastbound in the same valley. Photo taken on July 20th.

So I'm curious as to where this is? Pretty scenery, might be fun to take a drive though that canyon!

Especially if I can satisfy my insatiable need to consume hydrocarbons at the same time:)



Both are in the Thompson River valley. First one (the potash train) is Black Canyon, near Ashcroft. BC. This is just off the Trans Canada Highway, just west of Kamloops. There are several classic train spotting locations around Ashcroft, with public roads high up the valley, looking down on one or both main lines.

The second one (containers) is also the Thompson River, between Lytton and Spences Bridge, BC. This is another hour or so drive west on the Trans Canada, which follows the Thompson valley from Kamloops to Lytton, where the Thompson empties into the Fraser. Don't know this stretch as well, but it does look nice.
156) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1722714)
Posted 6 Sep 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Meanwhile, the low grades on the prairies, plus the low density of dry grain, means that this little local freight in Alberta only needs one engine. Photo taken on 20 June in Glenbow Park, near Calgary, so these are probably empties to be spotted at elevators across the prairies for the coming harvest.


157) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1722713)
Posted 6 Sep 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And here is how the Chinese pay for all that potash: a string of containers, full of TVs and cellphones and other gadgets, heads eastbound in the same valley. Photo taken on July 20th.

158) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1722644)
Posted 5 Sep 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I make a point of asking for Worcestershire Sauce whenever I'm in an American restaurant. I love to hear them try to pronounce it.
159) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1722643)
Posted 5 Sep 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Are you telling me that the front of the train is round the bend at the middle top of the picture and that we can't even see the back end of it?? Absolutely ridiculous.

The insatiable need to burn carbon can not be better illustrated than with this train.


Actually, it is delivering potash to China. The insatiable need to eat, you see. They are moving the stuff from the prairies to China with a minimum of fuel expended per ton of potash delivered. Far from ridiculous, it is good common sense.

There are two trains, on two different tracks. That's a west bound CN train crossing the bridge, coming through the tunnel, with the back end disappearing out of the top left of the image. There is an east bound CP train just entering the picture from the right, on a separate track that doesn't cross the big river that the CN train is crossing. This is one of several areas in BC where the two lines run up either side of a river.
160) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1722595)
Posted 5 Sep 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another long Canadian train, picture taken yesterday in BC.

161) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1722538)
Posted 5 Sep 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hear something about mayo being used accross the pond. Have to ask Chris.
I use ranch dressing sometimes.


Are you thinking of frite sauce? It is sort of mayo. Close enough that you can get the same effect with North American Mayo on your fries.

162) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1722395)
Posted 5 Sep 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For making splice joints in something?
163) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #61 (Message 1721086)
Posted 2 Sep 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hold on kids. Dinner is almost ready.
164) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1720433)
Posted 31 Aug 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Proving the existance of god is left as an exercise for students. Give examples.

Proving the existance of students is left as an exercise for god. Give examples.
165) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1720318)
Posted 30 Aug 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Some sort of distillation device?

Is that a gas burner it is sitting on top of?
166) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Real Pictures of Real Seti Friends (Message 1719663)
Posted 28 Aug 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Um, does Eric look a bit Canadian to you? :-)))


Well, yes, he does look intelligent and well mannered.

Thank you for noticing.
167) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1716506)
Posted 21 Aug 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The California Zephyr takes 51 hours (on a good day).


Anybody that signs up for a 51 hour ride, when the air trip would be 6 or 7 hours at roughly the same price, is not worried about arrivaling on time.
168) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1716501)
Posted 21 Aug 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Similar story in Canada. The railways were built for freight and passengers, but post war the passenger service dwindled. Long distance train passengers are just about all tourists these days, they don't mind delays as much. If you mess with urban transit train times, on the other hand, you can expect letters to the editor, nasty words in Parliment, etc.

You have to remember Chris that from our point of view just about all the UK passenger rail services would be considered urban transit.
169) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1715994)
Posted 20 Aug 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used to set angles VERY precisely.
170) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1714493)
Posted 17 Aug 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Based on working with and training aviation people from this region for several years, I think the problem is much more complex than the simple answers above. There a lot of issues that combine to produce what we are seeing.

There several culteral issues at work, quite independant of religion. In many of these countries you get choice jobs, at least in part, based on who you know, not what you know. Combine this with a general movement to hire locals, and the lack of the kind of technical background that you and I take for granted amongst these locals, and you have a problem. (I grew up around airports, helping my father fix cars and things around the house. Some airline captains in Asia grew up in a village with no electricity, and no cars.)

All this is amplified by the incredible economic growth in these regions. Thats why I do some work there, they have the money and they spend it. They have also made the choice to spend their money on their products and people, whether they are up to the job or not.

A lot of people from these regions will tell you that the results we see are just the price of progress. Not that long ago that is how people in the western world felt about our accident rates, although not many of us remember that.
171) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1713555)
Posted 15 Aug 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My, why do I think it might be used to get rid of some clouds?

I don't know. It has nothing to do with weather.

Perhaps blur might be a better word.


I think Gary and I are seeing eye to eye on this one.
172) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1713435)
Posted 15 Aug 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nice play Bill. Was that taken
up by James Bay, do you know?



Found by Googling "polar bear in a tree". Computers are wonderful.

There are several places along the north coast were trees and polar bears overlap. From my personal experiences, this includes the Mackenzie Delta (although that tree look a bit big for the Delta) and around parts of Hudson Bay and James Bay.
173) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1713009)
Posted 14 Aug 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Cable crimper, possibly for fibre optics?
174) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XXII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1713003)
Posted 14 Aug 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
175) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Train Thread 2 (Message 1711005)
Posted 10 Aug 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
An update on positive Train Control in the US.

Still only a discussion topic in Canada, no dates set, no mandatory requirement.
176) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1709518)
Posted 6 Aug 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is about the size and shape of the "core" memory cards in an old Varian computer I used many moons ago. About 64K per card,actually used cores (on the other side in this photos?).
177) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1708943)
Posted 5 Aug 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Call me old fashioned, but THIS is what the Internet is for...

178) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1707200)
Posted 1 Aug 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used in lifting things?
179) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1706688)
Posted 30 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Had I been the pilot of that aircraft I would have said this

"My concern is the safety of the 144 passengers on my aircraft. I am landing at your airport whether you f'ing like it or not. When I have safely done so I will make my way to your control tower and bang a few heads together. Now get out of my way I am coming in!".


Sure, as long as you didn't run into the half dozen Blue Angels practicing over the airport. Be interesting to see if a NOTAM was available to the airline.

180) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BBC Shows - An American's Perspective (Message 1705965)
Posted 28 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I grew up on a mix of TV shows, from here in Canada, from the US, from Europe, etc., so it seems quite natural to me to watch a show from far away. It sort of adds to the drama, to see cops chasing bad guys in New Delhi or in New York.

Having said that, certain made-in-Canada shows have a particular appeal to me. I guess this comes from watching a genre that usually comes from the US or the UK take place in towns I know.

Does anybody outside of Canada get an old comedy series called Corner Gas? That, to me, is a totally Canadian production, and I would be interested in hearing what others think of it.
181) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1705960)
Posted 28 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm not going to get sucked into a "which is better looking" discussion, but will just say I like a lot of the recent pictures here. The 1930s streamliner look worked for me, on both steam and diesel.





I also love the "all business" look of something like a Big Boy. That machine was built to work, and worked very well.



And I also have a weak spot for the weird looking. I've just discovered this current Chech engine, which appears to be wearing goggles.



Is it just me, or could that thing be Bender's cousin?

182) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1704935)
Posted 25 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I don't know Chris, they weren't all black. And some of them were good looking.







183) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Slips of tongue (Message 1704751)
Posted 24 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A grammatical error.


Let's eat, Grandma.

Let's eat Grandma.

GRAMMAR SAVES LIVES!!!


184) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1704749)
Posted 24 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If we are going for geeky history...

I built my first computer myself in 1966.



Took my first Fortan class in 1970, on an IBM 360. IIRC, it had 640k of RAM, in a case the size of a small fridge. (That's not me in the picture, I looked WAY cooler in 1970.)



I wrote my Masters Thesis on a Wang, in 1984/1985. Figures from Fortan programs run on a Varian, (that the school had just purchased to replace a cabinet sized HP that ran on paper tape) and on a CDC first generation CAD system.

185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1704438)
Posted 23 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Then it is illegal without another qualified pilot onboard to have "eyeballs out."


You make several good points, there is still much to be found out though. We need a lawyer to reply to that last statement, but if it was illegal why did the tower clear the F-16 to the approach? Why does a published approach have so much of the route in Class E airspace? Surely there would be times when a "legitimate" TACAN approach, in poor vis, would be underway at the same time as some little airplane runs the scud.

If I remember how to read a US Sectional (I usually let my driver do that these days) the Cessna should have been talking to Charleston Approach on 135.8 well before the collision. No indication yet if he was.

And if the collision occurred at approximately 1500 feet MSL, unless the F-16 was WAY too low they were just a few miles from the airport, within the 4,000 feet to surface "cake layer". Don't you need tower permission to enter that? Even if they were in the 4,000 to 1,200 layer, the Cessna was either busting or about to bust airspace.

Another big unknown is the relative flight paths immediately before impact. If we believe the transponder altitudes, the F-16 descended into the Cessna - from above as viewed from the Cessna. There is NO upward vis in the 150, except for a small arc directly in front of the pilot, from many hours of personal experience. Similarly, if the 150 was below the F-16 nose (the F-16 was slowing, increasing angle of attack throughout the approach) the Cessna could have been completely blocked to him as well. That is why I say there are times when "see and be seen" does not and cannot work.
186) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1704249)
Posted 23 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Bill, last I checked, if you were in VMC you still were required to use your eyeballs.


And this is why I dislike commenting on preliminary reports. But since you brought it up... ;)

The F-16 was on a published approach procedure, cleared to the approach by the tower. The tower reported "traffic below you" when he clearly had no way of knowing this.

As to altitudes, with the transponder reporting pressure altitude at 29.92" and weather at 30.15" you tell me which way and by how much the transponder was off, assuming it was still in calibration. A ground school question. Now tell me if the radar the controller was looking at compensates for it?


All good questions. The aircraft setting 30.15 will indicate higher than the transponder. Bigger question: what altimeter setting was in each aircraft? Did the 150 assume he was well clear of the approach path? I'm a little surprised at the statement in the report that the 150 had no need to be talking to the tower. He was obviously very close to a published approach path, should he have been talking to a regional controller? Was he? We don't know yet.

Regardless of the corrections applied or not applied on the controllers scope, and regardless of the calibration and usage of the two transponders involved, the controller's scope indicates altitude rounded to the nearest 100 feet. Calling two aircraft indicating 1400 and 1500 feet "separated" is, I repeat, a huge leap of faith. Added in Edit: The controller also knew the "higher" aircraft was descending, under his control, and had no way of knowing the intentions of the other aircraft, although he should have observed it had a recent history of climbing. That 100 foot vertical separation, even if it was real, was diminishing.

While you are looking up that, what are the regulations on IFR radar separation, altitude and distance. Do those change if the pilot reports VMC and a "practice approach?" The question being was the first call of traffic already after those minimums were broken?


In Canada the controller has a lot of leeway in these calls when the aircraft is under direct control, i.e. cleared to the approach.

Should the jet pilot have called no joy sooner?


In Canada, by law, the controller has to assume no positive response from a pilot is a negative response. I.e., if the pilot says nothing, he doesn't have the traffic. I still question the timing here. The controller has to assume the F-16 will take some time to identify the traffic, and then take some additional time to initiate any corrective action. Given the closing rates, time was not in abundance here.

I can remember another accident very similar to this one in San Diego and both aircraft were talking to the controller and one reported the other in sight. And another in Cerritos. One thing they all had in common, VMC!


And recent history has shown time and time again that VMC plus "see and be seen" simply doesn't work, and can't work, in every situation. That is why we are spending so much time and money on things like multi-layer control zones and TCAS.

The practice approach in VMC is a classic case where this doesn't work. The pilot workload does not allow enough time "eyeballs out". With 20-20 hindsight, the controller should have commanded the higher altitude and higher performance aircraft (the F-16) to abandoned the approach and climb immediately. This would have increased the vertical separation.

Still too many question to draw any real conclusions, IMHO.
187) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1704148)
Posted 22 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I hate to make statements based on a preliminary report, as there probably more facts to come out, but IMHO...

The controller made a huge leap of faith in handing off the situation to the fast mover with such a short time to collision and such a small indicated altitude difference (further facts to come out will include how much indicated altitudes varied from true altitudes, but it seems to have been enough to cause this accident). When the controller stated "traffic below you at 1400 feet" he was implying everything was OK, when clearly it wasn't.

The controller correctly asked the F-16 for confirmation of visual contact, and if it was not received in a timely fashion, he should have issued an avoidance move to the jet in a timely fashion. It remains to be shown that the F-16 pilot had enough time to complete the requested turn, or even if the requested turn would have avoided the collision. The jet was under positive control, literally placing everybody's fate in the controllers hands.
188) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #61 (Message 1703186)
Posted 19 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Trick or treat!
189) Message boards : Cafe SETI : C'mon the Aussies, up for it? (Message 1703161)
Posted 19 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hold up there, the Davis Cup
has nothing to do with hockey!


Must be the other sport. What's it called? Oh yeah. Lacrosse.
190) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1702648)
Posted 17 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In which way are you supposed to turn around those freight trains going end through end across the whole of Canada?


Very carefully.
191) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #61 (Message 1702347)
Posted 16 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Pull my finger.
192) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1702142)
Posted 16 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here is another shot of North American horsepower to amaze and/or delight you Europeans, taken in 1978. This is a helper consist, making its way down from the summit of Rogers Pass in the Canadian Rockies after helping a west bound freight reach the top. 15,000 hp, all run by two people.

193) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1702138)
Posted 16 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I found the picture on Facebook, the poster claims the photo was taken recently in Belgium.
194) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Some prayers in need!!! (Message 1701965)
Posted 15 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good news Mike.
195) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1701962)
Posted 15 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Offered without comment.

196) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #61 (Message 1701710)
Posted 15 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The most elaborate sink hole I've ever seen.
197) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1701707)
Posted 15 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You missed a big one Carlos, that sometimes applies to Canadians as well:

Americans/Canadians tell everybody how much they saved when they bought something, never how much it cost.
198) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1701327)
Posted 14 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Bernie, this talk of turntables has got me thinking about your mysterious turning train. Maybe they are not concerned about which engine is where, but are actually turning the entire train. This means the cars arrive at a station on the return trip in the same order as on the inbound trip. Baggage car always first, first class car always last, etc.
199) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1701251)
Posted 14 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Canada had lots and lots back in the day as well. A few remain in museums, like this one just north of Edmonton. We stopped using them for the same reason everybody else did: expensive to maintain, and can't turn a whole cut of cars.


200) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The celttooth thread ... Last day. Thanks all! (Message 1701129)
Posted 13 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Help is on the way Canada, more Ausssie fire fighters are on their way. :-)


Thank you Good Sir, we need the help!



Thanks from me too.
201) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1701034)
Posted 13 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In North America we get clock updates via radio from the US NIST reference clock in Colorado. Like Chris, I have one radio set clock in the house, and set all the others off of it.
202) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1700146)
Posted 10 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Clearly a junk yard, not a wreck site.
203) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The celttooth thread ... Last day. Thanks all! (Message 1699815)
Posted 9 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have a friend who used to live in Canada, and she told me at the end of movies in theatres everyone stood up and sang, God Save the Queen. Is she pulling my leg, or is that the truth?


We sang that before the first movie of the day, 50 years ago. They used to play cool short films with scenic shots and the words across the bottom of the screen, ending with a picture of a very young Queen Lizzie. How long ago did your friend visit?
204) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #61 (Message 1699812)
Posted 9 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK lots of interesting entries, time to adjudicate:

Special mention and thanks to Chris for "life beyond the pooliverse". It's all relative, isn't it?

Third to Monday: "Poots make me go 10 times faster."

Second to Rob Smith: "Next time he throws the ball in the deep end I'm going to push HIM in to get it back"

First has to be dg6580004 who truly captured the expression on the dog's face:
"C'mon, SERIOUSLY, have you seen my ball?"

PM outgoing by the next post.
205) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1699558)
Posted 8 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not forgetting that passing loops are also installed on sections of double track to allow faster trains to overtake slower trains, or to provide stations....


In Canada that would be a station siding, or a yard siding. Passing trains (overtaking or in opposite directions) is called "a meet", so you can have station meets, yard meets, siding meets, etc. What yo don't want is a wheatfield meet.

206) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1699525)
Posted 8 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sidings in the UK tend to be off the mainline but come to a dead end.


In Canada we would call that a spur line, or just a spur. They dead end at a mill or mine or factory, the other end connects to a mainline.


Passing loops are where they want to run regular trains in both directions along a single track.


That would be a siding. Most Canadian main lines are double tracked these days, so passing sidings are rarely needed, unless track work is underway. In addition, we built so much track in the first half of the 20th century that even where main lines are single, there is probably an alternate route between any two major points. The alternate may be a bit longer, but that is better than letting a train sit. Rail freight in Canada is usually not time sensitive. That stuff goes by truck or by air.
207) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1699521)
Posted 8 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The Canadian economy has evolved in a similar way to what Gary described. Today the mega-broom-factory might be in Taiwan. The glory trains today in Canada are the "inter-modals". Everybody sits on a siding when they go by.

208) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1699505)
Posted 8 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

I would ask the question to Canada & the USA, just WHY do you need to move so many goods from one place to another? Why can't you simply manufacture them where the demand is? OK, one needs raw materials and nature decides where the mines of minerals etc are, but even so. None of it makes much sense to me, particularly when they can't even run oil tanker trains safely, as we have horrendously seen.


A lot of this is wise use of capitol. Yes, we could have a broom factory (or whatever) every few hundred miles, but it takes less capitol to build one mega-factory and the connecting railways and roads. The decrease in manufacturing cost per broom more that outweighs the added shipping costs. Remember, Canada is nearly 5,000 miles east coast to west coast. When the first trans-continental railway was built, the total population was about 4 million. The political need for a coast to coast link was there, and the government fronted a lot of the money to build it. Once this link was in place, it was a better return on your investment to make the Ontario broom factory bigger, than to build new small factories spread all over. Government policy, and government set freight rates, promoted this at the time.

But turning to passenger traffic, a quick look at the Western seaboard map shows that Vancouver, Seattle, San Francisco Los Angeles etc are some of the biggest cities there. It would have made sense 50 years ago to have had a high speed rail line down the Western coast of North America, so why all the hand wringing now?



"High speed" is a relative term. We did build a high speed rail link between Vancouver and eastern Canada in 1886. The first scheduled Toronto to Vancouver train took 8 days. Before that, the trip involved steamboats, horse drawn wagons and walking, and travel time was measured in months. The fastest way from eastern Canada to Vancouver before the railway was by ship, around South America.

Canadian passenger rail service was relatively fast, efficient and cheap up to the 1950s and 1960s. By then, the government was spending capitol on a national highway system, rising personal income meant most families had a car, and air fares were beginning to tumble. (If you take inflation into account, the Toronto to Vancouver airfare today is about 1/10th what is was in 1950.) AS rail passenger numbers fell, the private railways made a logical business decision and cut services. The CN was still government owned then, and subsidized passenger services for a while until the tax payers quite rightly asked "why bother?". While all this was going on, gasoline (sorry, petrol) was pennies a gallon. The whole society adapted to the private automobile, even for longer trips.

Today, new rail construction runs into all the problems I have mentioned before. A vocal NIMBY segment of the population, plus governments that don't want to upset anybody before the next election. Meanwhile discount airlines have become the preferred method of long distance travel for the masses. The train from Toronto to Vancouver still takes several days, a flight takes 6 hours. Canadian railways are making freight money at an amazing rate these days, and see passenger service as a money loser.
209) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1699474)
Posted 8 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I presume the American short siding is the equivalent of the UK passing loop?


I think so. A siding is a piece of track parallel to the main line, usually connected to the mainline at either end. Used for passing, also used to park cars for loading or unloading or just for storage. This picture is from Oz, but we would call this a siding in North America.

210) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1699395)
Posted 7 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

That's fine for the passenger trains, but what about when you have two 10,000+' trains going in opposite directions? I'll tell you what happens: the passenger train gets stuck in the short siding and has to wait there while the freights meet 50 miles away at a siding that can handle one of them.


Sadly, that's how you make money with a North American train service these days.
211) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #61 (Message 1699394)
Posted 7 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks all. Keeping to a theme:

212) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1699277)
Posted 7 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The length of the train in that picture is just ridiculous!!!

Up until the 1990s, the average freight train in Canada was about 5,000 feet (1.54 kilometres) long and weighed 7,000 tons. But it is now not uncommon to see these trains stretch to 12,000 feet, sometimes as much as 14,000 feet (more than four kilometres), weighing up to 18,000 tons.

Are Canadian railways that close to financial ruin that they have to run stuff like this to save money and survive?

No, but they're run by people who care more about profits than anything else.


Legally, that is what they HAVE to do.

CN used to be run by E. Hunter Harrison, who decreed that trains should be about 10,000 feet long. Never mind that on single track lines, the passing sidings were only about 5-7,000 feet. He also imposed various other practices that look good on paper but not in reality.


Then don't put the long trains on sidings. The really long trains are usually single point to single point: mine to mill, inland grain elevator complex to port, etc. They run straight through. The passenger trains fit just fine on the sidings, however.

After he hit CN's mandatory retirement age, activist investors took over the board of CP and hired him to be president there. Guess what he did? Yup, the exact same stuff.


I know, it is hard to believe some people like money more than they like running trains in the classical way. ;)
213) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #61 (Message 1699063)
Posted 6 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
He followed me home. Can we keep him?

(Could be the dog or the raccoon speaking.)
214) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1698788)
Posted 5 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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I think you are going in the right direction Rob. The only things likely to happen in my lifetime are limited upgrades of the existing services, plus extension of the specialized commuter services till they start to overlap. The limiting factor will be using existing right of ways, which means there will still be "cultural" or "political" speed limits in a lot of places, no matter how good the tracks and trains are. You see some of that on the GO trains around Toronto already. They get up to 80 mph in some places on purpose built track, then have to crawl at 20 mph through some urban level grade crossing on a "legacy" ROW. Makes for an interesting ride if you are standing up.
215) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1698786)
Posted 5 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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How do you tall men fit in that tiny plane???!!!

Learjet 25B is a 10 seat aircraft. Apparently this one is rigged for gas on the go. :)


The Calspan one holds a crew of 4 or 5, depending on the amount of test gear inside. The aircraft can't receive fuel, in that photo they were testing new digital control laws for receiver aircraft closing on the tanker.
216) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1698783)
Posted 5 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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How do you tall men fit in that tiny plane???!!!


You crawl through a short doorway, then crawl down the aisle to your seat. No worse than getting into the back seat of most cars, it is just a bit further from the door to the seat. It is fairly comfortable once you are in - depending on what the pilots get up to.
217) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1698727)
Posted 5 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Here are the big population centres on the route, from ViaRail. For every one named on this map there are at least 10 others that want to be on the map.



Added in edit: ViaRail runs express and local services on these lines, the stops named are for the express trains.
218) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1698723)
Posted 5 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Never a dull moment Celt. :)

Just to show the effect of old rail lines and high population density, here is a shot of a line I lived close to about 20 years ago. The City involved is not on the main Windsor-Quebec line, but they have offered up the old city owned track, if....

219) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1698720)
Posted 5 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Let's all play a game to guess how many towns and cities
on the new Windsor/Quebec TGV line, demand a stop?


The answer is "way more than all of them". Towns near (or even sorta near) the proposed route are lining up saying "we'll give you some land if you shift the route - and stop in our downtown".
220) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1698708)
Posted 5 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Is that Windsor Ontario or Windsor Quebec? (or Windsor Somewhere else)


Windsor, Ontario - just north of Detroit. Your comments about population, distances, and travel times are bang on.


That's a nice idea about laying another couple of tracks by a freight route, because both freight and high speed rail work best when "straight and flat" - locals may care to comment on the route geography. The trick with high speed rail is not to "call at every gatepost", but to stop where there is either an existing suitable station, or where there is the land an population that would use a "park and ride" service. Thus on that 1300km journey there may only be half a dozen stops, no stops to change trains, just sit back and relax as the scenery passes by at 300kph.


This is where it gets tricky. In general, most Canadian freight lines are not track limited. There was a big lump of money spent double and triple tracking some choke points through the western mountains and in some parts of the east in the 1970s and 1980s. Since then, growing train lengths have handled the growth in freight, and what little new track has been laid for freight service has been mostly to move sorting yards out of the downtowns. A good part of CN and CP profit in the 1990s came from selling their old properties in the hearts of Canada's biggest cities. Over the same time long run passenger services have become mostly tourist traffic. Those people don't mind sitting on a siding every hour or so as a hot-shot freight roars by, which is a good thing because that is exactly what happens to most inter-city passenger trains these days. And when the freight lines do build new track, they build it for heavy slow freight trains - that is their bread and butter.

The local commuter services around Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver have been steadily building their own tracks since the 1990s, but it it is exactly where you don't want high speed rail - passing through each population centre, with lots of stops.

All this adds up to a high speed Windsor-Quebec train needing almost all new track. That is through the most densely populated part of the country, with the highest property values and lots of political baggage attached to such a drastic change in land use. For example, every two-bit little town along the route (including the one I live in ) says they are happy to help procure land for the new rail line, but only if there is a stop in their downtown. Sort of defeats your comments about how to build a high speed rail system.

Bottom line is that every government (municipal, provincial or federal) can't come to any conclusion. Instead, they commission another study, to be completed just after the next election.
221) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1698703)
Posted 5 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Do the orange flight suits signify plane crew, and the others passengers?


No hard and fast rules these days. Usually the colour of the suit is some history, i.e. where were you when you bought the suit. Everybody in the picture got several flights on this trip. The orange suits are civilian FTEs, the military looking suits are serving or ex-military, the two guys in civvies got dressed in a hurry that day.

Left to right: Orange suit is a student FTE working for a civilian contractor; then an ex-Turkish AF student FTP working for same contractor; the guy in civvies is a Calspan instructor FTE; serving Korean AF student FTE; civilian contractor student FTE who didn't like orange; ex-Turkish AF student FTP; me as an instructor FTE in my faded old MBB suit; and finally the Calspan FTP, ex-USN.
222) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1698569)
Posted 4 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Since the plane thread is locked, I'll stick this here. 2014 field trip, I'm the second from the right.
223) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The celttooth thread ... Last day. Thanks all! (Message 1698534)
Posted 4 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
224) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bad Joke Thread (Message 1698533)
Posted 4 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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A guy walks into a bar and says "ouch".

It was an iron bar.
225) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1698304)
Posted 3 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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I suspect they need more rail as well, but that isn't something they have figured out or just isn't possible on the face because of right of way considerations.


As far as I know there is very little new rail being laid in Canada these days, apart from a few commuter lines in the big cities. Almost all the growth is over existing tracks. Of course, that may be the next issue limiting rail growth.

Government plans for a high speed rail corridor on the Windsor to Quebec route (biggest rail passenger market in the country) have been kicked around for at least 30 years, but the big stumbling blocks are money - and right of way. Existing mainlines on this route are amongst the oldest in Canada, and they all go right through every little and big town along the way. Nobody is too interested in high speed rail through their downtown, and the surrounding land is high priced, and/or protected by greenbelt laws, and/or part of parks, etc etc.
226) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1698256)
Posted 3 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Are Canadian railways that close to financial ruin that they have to run stuff like this to save money and survive?


They are way past surviving, the goal is to make the most money for your shareholders. As I have said before here, the recent annual statements of both the CN and the CP state that the only thing holding back their profits right now is how fast they can buy new rolling stock and power.

From CBC Business news archives: CN profits rose 13% from 2012 to 2013, and 21% from 2013 to 2014. Total revenue in the last quarter of 2014 was $853,000,000 Canadian (about 436,000,000 Pounds). A bit more than surviving, I would say.
227) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Eric!!! (Message 1698138)
Posted 3 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Happy birthday Eric.
228) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1698135)
Posted 3 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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And a 2014 photo from Sault St. Marie, showing that CN is using some distributed power these days.

229) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1698133)
Posted 3 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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An interesting news story on long Canadian trains.

And the picture with the story:
230) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1698125)
Posted 3 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Rob, the train in the picture had 123 cars, and no centre engine. They do cut in centre helpers on the really long ones where the gradients are steep. You are right, good quality track is needed for this sort of thing.

Another key is big turn radii. I wish I could draw free body diagrams in this blog :) You would see that the cars at the front do see the biggest net force perpendicular to the tracks, but the magnitude of this force goes down as the radius goes up. A long wheel base and free swiveling trucks also reduce the lateral forces.

Added in edit: found one small shot of a centre helper in the Canadian Rockies.
231) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1697914)
Posted 2 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Really makes you wonder why they don't derail around curves being THAT long ....


The only reason a car would derail around a curve would be because of side force resulting from the angle between two cars, plus centrifugal force acting on the mass of the car. The beauty of rails is that this angle depends only on the radius of the curve, while the force depends only on the radius of curvature and the speed of the train. The sum of the forces is the same between cars 1 and 2 as it is between cars 201 and 202.
232) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1697837)
Posted 2 Jul 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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And here is a shot from May, of a typical long freight here in Eastern Canada. The photographer reported 123 cars behind the twin engines. Despite the rugged looking terrain, the grades are fairly light through here, along the north shore of Lake Superior.

233) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1697019)
Posted 30 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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I've been digging through RailPictures.net and keep coming up with beautiful shots. Some time back we talked about the size and horsepower of North American freight trains, here is a shot that might interest some. Taken in Jasper, middle of the Rockies, this month. A long line of coal hoppers plus mountain grades calls for lots of horsepower.

234) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Historical fire engine technology (Message 1696519)
Posted 28 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Any steam engine takes a lot of work, hence their decline. A friend of mine that helps operate a historic steam locomotive tells me the stoking/lighting crew gets called out 8 to 12 hours before the engine can move. A fire department would need to keep the boiler hot 24/7.
235) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1696303)
Posted 28 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Gary, maybe the American auto clubs still work that way, but several of the Canadian clubs just out and out sell stars. Yes, they send reviewers, but if you haven't paid for a corporate membership you don't get reviewed or rated, and the more you pay the better your rating.
236) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1696218)
Posted 27 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Several Middle Eastern hotels have decided they need to be differentiated from mere 5 star hotels, and are assigning themselves 6 or even 7 stars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_rating

In North America most automobile club travel guide star ratings are simply for sale. The more you pay the club, the more stars you get in their next travel guide. I personally know several nice family owned hotels in Canada that don't even show up in any of the guides, because they don't pay anything. I much prefer things like Travelocity these days.
237) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Intergalactic Quotes (Message 1696088)
Posted 27 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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May the Swchwartz be with you.
238) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Historical fire engine technology (Message 1696073)
Posted 26 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Mr. Christie had a long history of developing internal combustion engine powered race cars, and the first taxis, before he got into fire engines, so I assume, as you said, this thing had an internal combustion engine in the front, and a steam powered pump in the back. I suspect that a fire department could even recycle its steam pumps with a contraption like this.

Christie later developed the modern tank suspension, but died before his radical ideas were accepted.
239) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The celttooth thread ... Last day. Thanks all! (Message 1696070)
Posted 26 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Heard the Lights only once, from just north of Edmonton. (Well, just north back then, probably a suburb of Edmonton today.) As others have said, it was sort of a crackling noise. Reminded me of static on the radio. Very quiet and even, then it slowly faded away.
240) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Intergalactic Quotes (Message 1695757)
Posted 26 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Soylent Green is PEOPLE!
241) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The celttooth thread ... Last day. Thanks all! (Message 1695629)
Posted 25 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Have a nice day Celt. Thank you.
242) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Vic!!! (Message 1694425)
Posted 21 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Have a good one Vic.
243) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX I - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1694423)
Posted 21 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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I recall that the Vancouver Island raccoons were quite a bit bigger than the urban ones we get here in the middle east (of Canada, that is).
244) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1693871)
Posted 20 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Why do the States insist upon have the front of an Engine about 20ft from the driver, it's not a container ship :-))


Oops, just saw that David beat me to it. That's what I get for not reading this every day.

EMD used to call them "safety cabs", today we would call the nose extension a crumple zone. It keeps the crew away from the nasties, like cars parked on level crossings.
245) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX I - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1692139)
Posted 16 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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According to those who know, raccoons are part of the order Carnivora, family Procyonidae. Nothing to do with rodents (order Rodentia), and only distantly related to bears (which are order Carnivora, family Ursidae).
246) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1692136)
Posted 16 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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I love stories like that Chris. Allows me to remind the wife that I could have had a collection like that....
247) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1691915)
Posted 16 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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MLW had a long and honourable history. They started producing their own designs of steamers in the late 1800s, mostly for the CPR, and were bought by Alco in 1904. Their plant developed into several acres of large buildings, and during the wars they added tanks, trucks, and marine engines to the product line. Under Canadian federal tariffs that existed well into the late 20th century, it was cheaper to make any Alco product intended for a Canadian customer in Canada. When Alco downsized and eventually vanished in the 1960s these same tariffs kept the Montreal plant in existence, under a string of owners. A sort-of parallel history produced EMD here in London, that continued making engines long after General Motors got out of the business.

Bombardier took over MLW in the 1990s, and merged it with its own high speed rail and passenger facilities into what is today Bombardier Inc. Ironicaly, the old MLW plant work and design capabilities were transferred to other Bombardier facilities in Canada, the US, Europe and Mexico when the tariffs ended, and the enormous MLW complex in Montreal was finally torn down by 2004.
248) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1691849)
Posted 15 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Now now now. 5 points each to David and Bernie. 2.5 points to Vic, the MLW engines often are confused with Alco. I think at one time MLW built Alco under licence.

Remember: a million points, plus two bucks, gets you a cup of coffee.
249) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1691750)
Posted 15 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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This time a pair of Geeps on the OSR, taken last fall. They are parked beside the CP mainline, waiting to exchange cars with a CP local freight. 5 points to whoever can identify the previous owners.

250) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1691745)
Posted 15 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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OK, after a little digging on the second FP9, I'm slightly less amazed that it still exists in this paint scheme. It was built for the CN, here in London, back in the 1950s, but spent about 20 years with a local tourist line, the Waterloo St. Jacobs Line, which painted its engines and passenger cars in vintage CN colours. This engine moved to the OSR in early 2014.

I suspected the answer would be something like that. That paint is in much too good condition to be original.


Not that good, really. The same website has a photo of the same engine consist, on a Timmies break at nearby Woodstock last summer. You can still see the outline of the Waterloo St. Jacobs logo on the nose.

I commuted over the OSR line for about 6 years, and I would often see a flash of colour out of the corner of my eye as I drove by and think "what the heck was THAT?". The OSR is a virtual rolling museum of both engines and freight cars. And they apparently don't spend a lot of money on paint.


251) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1691304)
Posted 14 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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OK, after a little digging on the second FP9, I'm slightly less amazed that it still exists in this paint scheme. It was built for the CN, here in London, back in the 1950s, but spent about 20 years with a local tourist line, the Waterloo St. Jacobs Line, which painted its engines and passenger cars in vintage CN colours. This engine moved to the OSR in early 2014.
252) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1691282)
Posted 14 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Another very interesting shot from the same website, taken last month, about an hour down the road from where I'm sitting. The Ontario Southland is a short line connecting several local auto plants to the CN and CP mainlines. Like most Canadian short lines, they operate on a shoe string, and don't spend a lot of money on things like repainting the second hand equipment they buy. Both these FP9s are ex-CN, the lead one in Railink colours (a Via Rail passenger service operated under contract by CN) and the other appears to be in the standard CN passenger engine markings - prior to 1970!

253) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1691275)
Posted 14 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Since my Sunday has been rained out, I started searching the web for Canadian railcams. Haven't found any good ones yet, but I have found several sites with quality still photos. Including this interesting one of two classic SD-40s, taken a month ago in BC. Anyone remember the "which twin has the Tony?" ads?

254) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #60 (Message 1691057)
Posted 14 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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And this is where little locomotives come from....
255) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1690915)
Posted 13 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Love your pictures Vic. As a closet train spotter, I appreciate the rare markings and old engines and rolling stock you find. It is a big continent, and I can't get everywhere I would like to. That is what the Interweb is for.
256) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1690244)
Posted 11 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Thanks for the details David. I hadn't realized US engines got shared on through trains, just like the rolling stock. And we still see Delaware & Hudson engines, rolling stock, and MRO equipment on the CP lines around here. I'm told they legally have to keep the name in use to maintain some track rights, on old tracks originally funded by the Canadian government.
257) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sweet or Savory? (Message 1690099)
Posted 11 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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The local indigenous people around here made drinks and flavorings from the sap of just about any tree: pine, birch, etc. as well as maple. I've tried pine beer and birch syrup, I'll stick to maple thank you.
258) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1690098)
Posted 11 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Bernie, the Canadian railways I'm familiar with have strict rules about who is qualified to run what engine. It is very unlikely that a CP engineer would be asked to sit in the cab of somebody else's loco. It is much less likely that a non-CP person would be in a CP cab.

Since my last post I talked to someone who knows the NS business here in Ontario. Those NS trains running on CP rails in Ontario have NS crews, but the crews are Canadians home-based in St. Thomas (just south of here), and they are trained to run on, and only run on, the CP line. There are probably other similar deals in place for particular routes.

To be more specific about some of the "stuff" can happen here: buying locos is a long term business, contracts are signed today for engines to be delivered over several years. The quantities contracted for are based on expected traffic volumes over a several year period. That is, at best, an educated guess.

By the time the engines are delivered, contracts have shifted, one mine has gone out of business unexpectedly and another has gone to triple shifts, etc. The railway companies get together, sign mid term and long term lease deals, and shiney new engines go to where the business is.

On top of that, there is the day to day "stuff" when one engine goes unserviceable, or a class gets a sudden recall notice. That is when you are likely to see the really old stuff dug up from a back siding somewhere and put back into service.

Leased or rented engines are almost never the lead engine, with a crew in it. As long as they have a standard MU fitment, the crew doesn't need to know much about the engine, or even get into the cab.
259) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1689898)
Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Bernie, up here in the North MU lashups are almost always driven from the front engine, and the front engine is almost always from the line operating the whole train. This is done because you want a local engineer driving, and you want all the communications equipment (voice and data) that your line needs at his command. This would make your photos a CP train. There are of course exceptions, but only when the leased/rented equipment has the right gear fitted out, or another line's engineer is familiar with the stretch of track. In Canada train crews generally only operate on a few hundred miles of track, trains that cover longer distances switch crews at regular intervals. The crews I talk to prefer this, since it means they get home at the end of each shift, even though the train may roll on for another few days,

As for the mix of markings in a single consist, it is all economics. Each line wants to own just enough engines, not too many, for their volume of traffic. When "stuff" happens (we use another word for "stuff" in North America) you do what you have to to keep the trains running. If your line can quickly come up with your own spare engine when "stuff" hits the fan, your accountants will tell you you own too many engines, and you need to look into leasing or selling some. If you have been following your accountants advice for some time, then when "stuff" hits your line you have to look elsewhere for motive power.

The last 5 years or so in Canada (and I think in the US) has seen freight volumes rise faster than the factories can turn out new equipment (combination of oil by rail and growth in bulk freight like ores and grains). All the lines are scrambling every day to put together something that runs. This makes for interesting times for the spotters, as some of your photos and Vic's photos show.

Vic is right, the MU interface is pretty standard, permitting one cab crew to run multiple engines (even different models) at the same time. The key is how the cab crew fits into the block control / track control used locally, and that usually depends on the gear in the front cab. From my work with Electromotive here in London, very similar looking locos can have very different equipment in the cabs when they leave the factory, depending on which line they are going to. Updates over the years only make this worse.

The NS regularly runs complete trains over the CP line south of where I live, this is the old "lake level line" that was funded by US railroads in the 1880s to bypass Pennsylvania mountains when connecting Chicago to the US east coast. I assume the NSF locos and crews are equipped and trained to run on what is now a CP track.
260) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Damn Ebayers :-) (Message 1689054)
Posted 8 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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An old neighbour of mine, who was an auditing accountant for a local government tax office, told me that they ranked potential investigations in terms of the ratio of possible government income to possible government expense. They started at the top of the list, and never made it to the bottom. I expect this is why, at least in this locale, most e-Bay sales, garage sales, etc. don't get investigated.

And yes, I was also surprised at a government agency being so logical.
261) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Life imitates art (Message 1689053)
Posted 8 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Fans of 2001 A Space Odyssey will love this. SpaceX attached a camera to the aerodynamic shrouds on its last Falcon flight, capturing the view from the shroud as it tumbled back to earth after being jettisoned.
262) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Damn Ebayers :-) (Message 1688203)
Posted 5 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Don't you have a tax exemption based on 'casual income'
in England? Here if you derive your living income from
any activity, (work, business, trust fund) then any extra
income from say a lotto win, or selling stuff on the internet,
there is no tax charged.


Licensed lotteries are "taxed at source" in Canada, meaning whoever runs the lottery pays taxes on the winnings before handing out the prizes. Therefore there is no need to report your winnings as income. Once you start earning interest on the winnings that is taxable.

Odd job earnings are very much taxable income, there is a line on the annual tax form for "tips and miscellaneous". Unless a big portion of your income is tips (like a waiter/waitress) the government doesn't track these too closely. But they could, if they decide they don't like you.

Not sure about Internet / garage sales, need to look into this.
263) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1688201)
Posted 5 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

That's an intriguing vehicle.
Is it still propelled by the main driving wheels?


The ones I am familiar with keep a good portion of the vehicle weight on the rubber tires. Gas, brake and gear shift work as usual, you don't have to steer. They tell me braking is only slightly reduced compared to the same vehicle on the road, hence my observation about safety at crossings.

The local rail companies love these, because they are so much cheaper than running a full loco, and they have the flexibility of switching to the road when needed (like when it is time for Timmies). Around here all the daily track inspections are done in a hi-rail pickup truck. The ones in Canada are all radio equipped, and operate under whatever form of block or track control the local line is using.
264) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1688079)
Posted 5 Jun 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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It is quite common in Canada for hi-rail trucks to not trip crossing alarms. I always figured this was for two reasons: one - these trucks often stop near the crossing to work on signals (or to go for donuts), and you wouldn't want the gates down and bells ringing for all that time; second, these trucks can easily stop on the tracks, which makes a hi-rail truck crossing a road no more risky than any other uncontrolled intersection. And we have lots of those in rural Canada.

265) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1685576)
Posted 29 May 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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This is the best I've found so far Chris, even if it is a little out of date.
266) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1685574)
Posted 29 May 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Google finds lots of cab shots of North American engines. Keep in mind that each owner can have very different cab layouts, some are going for "glass cockpits" these days. Still looking for the rest of the interior. Here is an F40.

267) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things I wish that all people who work with the public knew... (Message 1682099)
Posted 21 May 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Rule #4 The customer is not always right!


Maybe so, but if you want to keep dealing with the customer you need to be VERY careful how you tell them this. Right or wrong, the customer pays your salary. They are allowed to make mistakes, as long as the check clears.

I spent several years watching German salesmen tell North American customers they were not just wrong, but obviously stupid, if they didn't want to buy the German helicopter in place of the French helicopter. Only the Germans were surprised when the French helicopter company bought out the German company.
268) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OTUS? (Message 1681907)
Posted 20 May 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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I'm old enough to remember when LOL meant Little Old Lady.
269) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things I wish that all people who work with the public knew... (Message 1681906)
Posted 20 May 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Rule #1. The terms "sweetie" or "dear" should NEVER be used to address any person older than 14 years of age.


I think that may be a regional thing. In Canada women over 60 often call everybody dear, especially other women. No disrespect is meant, or taken. Now, if a 20 something calls me sweetie or dear in just the right tone, then a great deal of disrespect is obviously meant.
270) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1680041)
Posted 15 May 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I was amazed at the specs for the wheels of these new Acela 64 locos. Do they wear in use by 3" or is that after skimming in the factory refurb?

1,117 mm (43.98 in) (new)
1,041 mm (40.98 in) (worn)

ACS-64


It is a combination of wear and re-skimming. Mis-use of brakes can lead to flat spots, impact with objects on the rail can cause nicks and dents, all these are removed by skimming. My understanding is that the "worn" dimension is the allowable minimum after skimming. Below this, the wheel must be replaced.
271) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1678878)
Posted 12 May 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

PS to my knowledge, there is still a shortage of available freight locos so some you see may look old and tatty but if they run, they will be used, doesn't really matter about the cab if it is a trailing unit.


According to recent quarterly statements from both CN and CP, their growth at present is limited by how fast they can acquire new engines and rolling stock. So, yes, a lot of beat up old stuff seen on the rails these days.
272) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1678800)
Posted 12 May 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Is it a reasonable question to ask, that why do the American railways have to shunt so many of their locomotives all over the place all the time. Is it just to keep the train spotters happy, or are they just incompetent?


Locos get moved to and from factories, overhaul facilities, and various end user facilities. It is a big continent, so these places can be quite far apart. There are also seasonal needs (like getting all the grain off the Canadian prairies each fall) that see locos leased and rented in a bewildering mix. Once you have paid for the right of way, and are running a train anyway, the incremental cost of dead heading a loco is pretty small.






273) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1675159)
Posted 8 May 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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If I'm remembering my training correctly, ideally diesel exhaust should be almost invisible - water vapor. From a pollution standpoint, grey smoke is less damaging than black smoke, since black smoke is mostly unburned fuel.


Diesel exhaust, by its nature, is chocked full of carbon particles of various sizes - that is the grey smoke. If the particles are small enough they are barely visible, but they are still slowly killing you. The particles are still there in black smoke as well. They got away with this for decades because pollution regulations initially focused on COx and NOx, the carbon particles were ignored. This was partly due to the fact that the health effects of the soot were not fully understood, and partly because technology wasn't available to measure and categorize the soot. The Chinese government today still claims their urban air is fairly clean, because they don't bother to measure carbon particles of all sizes. Any westerner who has been to Beijing in the last few years would dispute this claim.



This has shifted in the last 20 years, and big bucks are now being spent to reduce the production of these particles, and capture the rest before it goes out the tail pipe.



274) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX I - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1673869)
Posted 4 May 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I wonder what colour Rob Ford's raccoons were.
275) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX I - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1673445)
Posted 3 May 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Do behave Bill :-))

USA

George Crum, a half black, half Native American cook at Moon's Lake House, who was trying to appease an unhappy customer on August 24, 1853.

UK

English food writer William Kitchiner's 1822 cookbook The Cook's Oracle


Kitchiner's "crisps" were a quarter of an inch thick! Hardly crisp. If anything, this quote may prove that the English invented Pomme Frits.

In University I lived down wind of a Frito Lay factory for several years. Took me several decades to be able to face them again.
276) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX I - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1673339)
Posted 3 May 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Those are crinkle cut crisps.


Clearly they are ripple chips. This from the continent that invented them. You Brits should learn to speak proper English.
277) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How Old are You compared to what this photo website says you are? (Message 1673002)
Posted 2 May 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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I tried 2 pictures. One was myself and a 35 year old co-worker, it always locked onto the co-worker had had him as 44. The one of just me came back at 70. I'm only 62!
278) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1673000)
Posted 2 May 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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I believe that the Wabash Canonball was a fictional "named train". Back when the song was written many US scheduled passenger services were named. you can see the remains of this tradition in Bernie's and David's posts. The best of them were quite glamorous, and the song was trying to capture this. Added in edit: I did a little digging on the real Wabash Railroad. It appears they did rename one of their scheduled services the Cannonball, in 1949, AFTER the song became famous. The line became part of the Norfolk & Southern in the big US railway shakedowns of the 1970s and 1980s.


The Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railroad, commonly known as the Rock Island Line, had a long and at first glamorous, then tragic, history. It was the first railway to offer scheduled service across the Mississippi, crossing at Rock Island. There is still a railway bridge there today, but I don't think it is the original. The Rock Island Line never made it to the Pacific, and fell on hard times in the mid 20th century. They eventually became part of the Union Pacific in a very messy bankruptcy/merger/shutdown in the 1980s.
279) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #60 (Message 1672320)
Posted 30 Apr 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The instructor said to keep the horizon right HERE in the windshield, but something doesn't seem right.
280) Message boards : Cafe SETI : On the light side a novel use of a Star Trek technology (Message 1668548)
Posted 22 Apr 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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It would be a cure for cancer. Just beam out all the cancer cells.


I remember a Larry Niven novel using that technique many years ago. They could set a transporter for this mode. You stood in one transporter, they hit the button, and a cloud of dust appeared in another transporter next to you. Cured cancer, aging, and all sorts of other stuff as I recall.
281) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1668522)
Posted 22 Apr 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Just an example of how messed up Canadian freight tariffs used to be:

Back in 1976 I worked in a small vehicle manufacturing plant in Calgary (the prairies). Freight rates gave preference to manufactured goods from the east to the prairies, and raw material, like plate steel, paid an extra premium to be off loaded in the prairies. The cheapest way for us to get steel plate from Ontario steel mills was to ship it by train to Vancouver on the west coast, passing through Calgary, and then put it on a truck for the 600 mile run BACK to Calgary. It would have cost more to unload from the train in Calgary, because freight rates and taxes encouraged shipment of Ontario steel plate to BC ports for export, but not to prairie centres where it would compete with eastern manufacture of finished goods.
282) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1668515)
Posted 22 Apr 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

But looking at that Canadian 4 header, and even realising that USA/Canada is 3000 miles wide, why does so much freight have to be moved long distance from A to B?? Why aren't goods produced where they are needed? Ok mines cant be moved to the users, but how much %age of freight is mine output as against other goods?


It goes back to the original Confederation in 1867 Chris. Tariffs and taxes were set up to encourage manufacturing in the "old" provinces of Quebec and Ontario, and agriculture in the Maritimes and the "new" provinces on the prairies. This has gradually been reduced over the years, but the manufacturing base remains mostly in the east, and the prairies export a sh*t load of everything agricultural. That freight in the picture in my post is probably prairie grains heading for BC ports, where it will get shipped on all over the Pacific (mostly China and Japan). Alot of the grain traffic runs in government owned cars, over private rail lines.


The trains have shifted to bulk goods over the last few decades, but that is more than just mine output. Today it includes processed food (cans and frozen meat for example), wheat, corn and forestry products, and most recently crude oil. Crude oil shipments by rail in North America have grown by at least 20% per year for the last 5 years. CN and CP just love it when the Yanks can't agree on building new pipelines.


A large amount of imports from overseas arrives in containers on the coast nowadays, and then moves by train to the population centres. I live in one of the most densely populated parts of the country, and we are at least 1,500 miles from the nearest salt water port. Container trains are generally "fast freights" because of the high dollar value of the contents (TVs, cell phones, etc.). They are usually relatively short, but have lots of horsepower on front for fast acceleration. They get priority over just about everything, including passenger trains.
283) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1668440)
Posted 22 Apr 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just to add to Bernie's comments, in the two smallish freight yards in my home town it is quite common to see even the yard shifters working in pairs. We used to have a lot of cow and calf combos 20 years ago,but they are disappearing.


Out west, through the mountains, you can regularly see long freights with upwards of 20,000 horsepower attached.
284) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Have you been to the library, recently? (Message 1663942)
Posted 11 Apr 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
two tips, on extras that many libraries offer:

1) Free passes to musical/museum events.

2) Undesired (i.e., low-volume check-out by patrons) CD's, and books.
Many are really good; it's amazing what others don't like that appeal
to yours truly. These items are yours, to keep.


I get both of those, through my wife's membership in a volunteer group that runs the Library book store. They sell the surplus collection, plus people's donations, to raise funds for the library. As a volunteer, my wife gets first dibs on new stock, and a 50% discount. This means LPs for 25 cents each, and hardcover books for 50 cents each!

One of the things they do with the funds is sponser several concerts a year in a great music facility attached to the downtown main branch. A wide range of music, I go to the classical and the jazz shows.
285) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #60 (Message 1663910)
Posted 11 Apr 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You can always lead a horse to water, but if you can get it to dress like this you have a real talent.
286) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Have you been to the library, recently? (Message 1663904)
Posted 11 Apr 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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I get many books from our library as e-books, but a lot of the obscure old non-fiction that interests me is only available on paper, so I'm a regular at the local branch. I do use their on-line catalog a lot before I go. I'm also signed up at the local university engineering library, again for obscure old stuff.

Even when the obscure stuff goes electronic, I will probably still be down there for CDs. A great way to try out new artists before investing in a hi-rez download.

And yes, we use self check out at the city library. Haven't noticed a drop in staff numbers, but have noticed staff have more time to help me find books.

And Chris, the "thrill of the hunt" is still there with e-books. And some of the e-books offer stuff just not available in paper. I'm currently reading the 1913 Jane's All The World's Aircraft at home, thanks to Gutenberg Press. I don't think many of you can check that one out of your local branch.
287) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1662101)
Posted 6 Apr 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Some of those PVs belong to the railroad, and are used for VIP travel, and sometimes are rented out.

My son goes to a big software users group convention in Montreal every spring, and his local chapter rents a private car that picks up people starting in Windsor and making several stops on the way east. It is hung on the end of a regular Via Rail train.
288) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Plane Thread (Message 1660052)
Posted 1 Apr 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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FAA regulations still don't trump the laws of physics. I'll believe a small low cost VTOL airplane when I see one.
289) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Plane Thread (Message 1660003)
Posted 31 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Aviation has a 100% completion rate. We haven't left one up there yet.

Another old saying from the industry: Take offs are optional, landings are mandatory.
290) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Plane Thread (Message 1658821)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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You are still far more likely to die in an automobile crash every time you get in to a car than to die in an airliner crash every time you get on an airliner. The papers makes a big deal about airline crashes because they are rare. Here in Canada automobile deaths, if they get mentioned in the press at all, get a weekly summary buried back in Section B of the paper.

My first flight was in an RCAF Dakota, at the age of about 3 months. Don't remember many details ;). Started flying lessons with my father in 1966 at age 14, but didn't bother to get a licence until 1976. Flying regularly on military scheduled flights and commercial airlines since I was born, and as flight test crew since 1976. Have to say commercial flying has really gone down hill in the last few decades, and I dread most comercial flights these days. Not because of fear of crashing, but because of cramped seats, delays, and long line ups.

Janne, I think your girl friend was talking about clear air turbulence. It does happen, but is rarely a safety issue, more of a comfort issue. I strongly recommend keeping your seat belt fastened whenever you are sitting down in an airliner, and always being ready for unexpected movement when you are walking around in an airliner. That should keep you safe.
291) Message boards : Politics : Close the Politics Forum? (Message 1658360)
Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Sure, things get heated, but whats wrong with a little passion?


Nothing wrong, if it relates to S@H. Otherwise it duplicates other venues that provide this service for those who need it. Why should the overworked and underfunded staff at S@H have to put up with this?
292) Message boards : Politics : Close the Politics Forum? (Message 1658359)
Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

... and if we do close it, all those conversations that make you despair will end up happening in number crunching and the Cafe.

Just think of this forum like a quarantine zone.


Not if the moderators keep the other Forums on topic and within scope. Lots of other specialty Forums do this quite nicely.

I repeat - there are existing venues for political axe grinding. Those that enjoy that sort of stuff can probably find them very easily. This set of Forums should remain true to S@H.
293) Message boards : Politics : Close the Politics Forum? (Message 1658349)
Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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I agree with Chris. There are lots of other Internet forums for the lunatic fringe.

Number Crunching and the Cafe do promote a sense of community. This forum only serves to make me despair for humanity.
294) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1657669)
Posted 27 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I still think that a captain should have a "root" password able to open any door in any circumstance. Imagine a hostess fighting a madman.
Tullio


Many of the door locks are simple deadbolts, maybe with a locking solenoid. You are talking about a major expense to enable passwords.
295) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Numismatics R Us (Message 1657009)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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And, like the old Canadian bills, they have inspired the folk artists.

296) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Numismatics R Us (Message 1657008)
Posted 26 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Canadian plastic bills are great. Cheap to make, hard to counterfit, and (in theory) a long life that should lower average costs.

297) Message boards : Politics : Iran and it's mock destruction of a US nuclear carrier (Message 1656694)
Posted 25 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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There was some discussion on other Forums that the whole exercise was for a movie.
298) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's now the time to be extra careful in Aussieland. (Message 1656164)
Posted 23 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ha. The doubled fanged snow snake is for sissies. It is the triple fanged you have to look out for.
299) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1655509)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For die cutting shapes out of paper?
300) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1655223)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Is it used in paper tole?

If paper tole is what I think it is, Bill, another name for 3D decoupage (?) then no - it is not used for producing decoupage (paper tole). But the end products, when combined, can be very impressive.

Ooooooooooooooooooooh... you're getting sooooooooooooooo close :)


Yes, I meant 3D decoupage.

Some other paper based art form, then?
301) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1655188)
Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is it used in paper tole?
302) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Numismatics R Us (Message 1654510)
Posted 19 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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No, it isn't a misprint and it is real.




These are ok, but change is still a problem.....



Fortunately, vending machines won't take them. Imagine trying to hold a cup of coffee and pick up 99,998 loonies coming out of the change chute.
303) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Numismatics R Us (Message 1654270)
Posted 18 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Er, you pay a tailor to fix your pockets??


Tailoring expenses (category 534.322.42 to CRA) includes threads, needles and thimbles.
304) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Numismatics R Us (Message 1654247)
Posted 18 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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You have to be careful when getting rid of the smaller coinage. Prices start going up when you can't place a fractional price on small purchases.


Not my experience with the removal of the one cent coin in Canada. For every $4.99 that gets rounded up, there is a $4.91 that gets rounded down. Also, any electronic transactions, like debit card or credit card, still get calculated to the penny.

And even if I pay a few cents extra on each transaction, it gets lost in the noise. Typical month for me has maybe 10 cash transactions, everything else is by debit card.
305) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Numismatics R Us (Message 1654149)
Posted 18 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Toonie is far more Canadian than doubloon. Although I would suggest the more correct spelling would be twoonie.

Sadly, the demise of the penny and the rise of the loonie/toonie are just reflections of inflation. I have strong memories of being ten years old, and digging in to my pocket to find enough coins to buy an airplane magazine or a cold drink. I do the same today, except I dig up toonies and loonies, instead of quarters and dimes.
306) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I have been impolite as of late..... (Message 1654132)
Posted 18 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
+3
307) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Numismatics R Us (Message 1654130)
Posted 18 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Canadians have adapted well to one dollar and two dollar coins, loonies and toonies. They are longer lasting and therefore cheaper than their paper equivalents. We had some issues with adapting vending machines, particularly when the loonie was resized shortly after its introduction. But people forget those issues pretty quickly once they are resolved.

BTW, Canadian pennies are gone. Can't say I miss them.

308) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Linguistic fun... (Message 1652864)
Posted 14 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Roadsign


In Canada that sign means tourist information ahead.
309) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Linguistic fun... (Message 1652063)
Posted 12 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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In Sweden we use daily English loanwords like "chat", "mejl" and "brunch". But in the case "After Work", to grab a beer or glass of wine after work, it is not an expression we borrowed but invented ourselves. According to the English-language newspaper The Local English speakers in Sweden are puzzled by the term "after work" that is neither used in the US or in the UK rather, "how about some drinks?" Or short "pub?".

'Chat' and 'brunch' i recognise, what does 'mejl' mean? I'm not even sure how to pronounce it.


I assume the j is pronounced as an i.
310) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Linguistic fun... (Message 1651727)
Posted 11 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I started working for a German firm in 1987, and still do consulting for firms in Germany and Scandinavia. They often ask me to help with their English in written reports, but after so many years I really have a hard time finding the small errors they want me to correct. I know what they are saying, so it all looks OK to me!
(Or as some would say, it all to me OK looks.)

Hmmm.
The most reluctant countries in Europe to speak English are France and Germany.
I have also worked at a German firm, Siemens. Concern language they said was English.
When people from Germany came here to have a seminare they all talked German.
Why? Since in the computer business there are so many tecnical terms that are German:)
Yes. Datei Ãœbertragen, Tastatur und Datenbank!

Datei Übertragen DÜ is the Enter key on the keybord.


The German firm I worked for merged with a French firm about 5 years after I got there. After literally years of debate, it was decided that the official internal language would be English. Because Germans refused to speak French and French refused to speak German. As one of the 5 % of employees who were natural English speakers, I was quite happy with this.
311) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX I - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1651726)
Posted 11 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As an aside, this created a lively discussion in the office as to exactly how many cats you had to own before you officially became a Crazy Cat Lady.


I have heard "four" or more, which we had for a couple of years.

I have also heard "double digits".


Most of the cat owners in the discussion claimed it was "one more than I have".
312) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX I - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1651682)
Posted 11 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That moma cat was a smart cat. She was a rescue sort of. She was pregnant and went people shopping. We did not select her. She selected us. How that works. I do not know. We had no say in her decision making. Even the dog had to move on over. She just came over and moved in and stayed.
Has anyone have that happen?


Many years ago a co-worker purchased a rural house, complete with shed and shed cat. She had two house cats of her own at the time, and only ever saw glimpses of the shed cat. When she had been there about a year the shed cat came in to the house for the first time, and gave birth to a litter. After a few weeks she moved back to the shed, minus the kittens.

As an aside, this created a lively discussion in the office as to exactly how many cats you had to own before you officially became a Crazy Cat Lady.
313) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Linguistic fun... (Message 1651681)
Posted 11 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Years ago in California I had a job that lasted about a year before the company crashed and being somewhat of a low budget operation they had about half the workers asian. In the software area where I worked I suspect the numbers may have been a bit higher. They came from China, Japan and several other countries in the areas so their accent was mixed but after a year of working there, I didn't notice the accent very much and had gotten over any issues of understanding them.


I started working for a German firm in 1987, and still do consulting for firms in Germany and Scandinavia. They often ask me to help with their English in written reports, but after so many years I really have a hard time finding the small errors they want me to correct. I know what they are saying, so it all looks OK to me!

(Or as some would say, it all to me OK looks.)
314) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1651164)
Posted 9 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used in spinning threads?
315) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX I - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1651096)
Posted 9 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There are numerous theories on why birds fly into glass. Not the least of which happens in the spring when they see their rival (reflection) in the glass and attack it.


We get gold finches attacking their reflections in car mirrors and windows every spring here, fighting till the drop of exhaustion sometimes. But I've never seen one ram the window fast enough to do damage to themsleves. Instead they flare as they approach the glass, hover next to it, and strike out with their feet and beak.
316) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX I - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1651069)
Posted 9 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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The hawk silhouette decals are quite common on big buildings up here. I guess that means they work. My understanding is that the bird see reflected sky, focused at a very long distance, and thinks it is about to fly through a "hole" in your building and come out on the other side. Anything that forces them to focus on the actual distance to the window should clue them in.
317) Message boards : Politics : Atheists New ten Commandments (Message 1650775)
Posted 8 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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I'm a Militant Agnostic. Our motto is "I'm not sure, and neither are you".
318) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Boat Thread (Message 1650652)
Posted 8 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The Hood was designed and built for the previous war

Not quite, but was likely designed to many of the previous war specs.

The HOOD
Laid down: 1 September 1916
Launched: 22 August 1918
Commissioned: 15 May 1920

Don't forget also RMS Lusitania.


You kind of prove my point Chris. The Hood was specified and designed prior to September 1916, launched by August 1918, First Great Unpleasantness ended November 1918.

Billy Mitchell proved that large capital ships were obsolete death traps in 1921, and got court martialed for it. It took a few more decades, and much waste of resources and lives, before others saw his point.

Can't quite see the connection to the Lusitania. She was sunk by a sub.
319) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Boat Thread (Message 1650382)
Posted 7 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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The Hood was designed and built for the previous war. Churchill, despite his many strengths, continued to support capital ships long after their time had passed. To be fair, some leaders in the US, Germany, Japan, and Italy had the same problem. They all wasted a lot of steel, a lot of money, and a lot of lives by sticking to old ideas.
320) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Linguistic fun... (Message 1649704)
Posted 5 Mar 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
More people whats talks funny, eh? It's an ad, but it is fairly true to life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScgAgeIfTlg
321) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Images of the fruit of the labor of my hobby (Message 1647531)
Posted 27 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
From one kit basher to another - nice work Bob.
322) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1646980)
Posted 26 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Simonator, as a member of several SAE, SCC, and ISO standards development committees, I have to say I resemble your cutting post.
323) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1646977)
Posted 26 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

I have far more trouble with the writing than the accent.


Picky picky picky. A few comments, based on having worked for a supplier of EMD here in London.


- I have never heard a locomotive referred to as "a heavy haul"

That's what EMD called them in the plant. I suspect the TV people picked it up from them.

- "where tracks are wider and stronger than in most other parts of the world"??? stronger, maybe, but standard gauge (as established by the silly Brits)

Well, maybe, there are lots of narrow gauges around the world too.


- how can you weld the other side of a round object that you weld all the way around?

When the round object penetrates a hole in the flat frame plate. Full fillet weld one side, flip the frame plate and full fillet weld on the other side. EMD was known for thick plate welding. Half the plant is still in business, building armoured vehicles for General Dynamics.


- I have never heard of a wheel-axle-gear assembly or WAG; I know it as a wheelset
- bogeys (or is it bogies?) are called trucks in North America

Again, standard terminology within EMD.
324) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1646518)
Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here is an interesting video shot in the old Electromotive Plant here in London before it closed. Some serious welding going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WokCyQAsh-E
325) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1646478)
Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Better education, apparently. If you are not getting results, try changing your methods. There have been lots of studies showing that increased sentencing has little effect on people's behaviour. Unless you are willing to take these people off the streets, and have them live at taxpayers expense in jail for very long periods of time, you need to find another way.
326) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1646468)
Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If it's cheaper than air or sea freight what corners do they cut?


The biggest corner cut is time. If you are not in a hurry (i.e. you are OK with the umpteen week delivery time) you don't have to spend capital on rail, rolling stock or locos. You add your cars onto local frieghts being run on existing lines anyways (with or without your cars) for a small incremental cost, and sometimes sit on a siding waiting for the next local freight going in the right direction.

Boats and planes are the same. If you can afford delays, and can live with having your freight switched between boats (or planes), the cost of the trip goes down as its duration goes up - to a certain point. Switching loads between boats or planes is much labour intensive, and therefore more expensive, than switching a few cars loaded with containers from one train to another, or even moving the 83 containers from one car set to another, so the potential cost savings from transhipping on rail is bigger than the potential savings on planes or ships for the same added time.
327) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1646464)
Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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The long term answer is better education. And better public transit.

How do you perceive long term better education?

The UK started clamping down on drink driving in the early 70's - that's 40 years - too short a term?


Don't understand your question. Has the clamp down you mention resulted in a reduction in deaths or accidents related to impaired driving? Did the clamp down include any increased education on the perils of impaired driving?
328) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Only in Canada ..... (Message 1646458)
Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It can be done. Just think of the heavy freight haulers that use ice roads. A person weights next to nothing in comparison.


Exactly. Ice roads are cheap to build when the weather is right (water is self leveling), and cheaper to plow than a equivalent area of gravel or even paved road.
329) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1646456)
Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Bernie, the problem with level crossings is the adaptability and learning speed of humans. We have two main lines going through our downtown, each with several level crossings. The railways try to keep long trains out of the downtown during rush hours, but s**t happens. I often see what you have described, and a few times have seen pedestrians climb OVER stopped trains at level crossings. The majority get away with this, and it becomes "normal practice" for them.

Adaptability extends to our reaction to deaths at crossings. We average 2 to 3 per year here in town, and the local papers may not even report it, if there is more "interesting" stuff to report that day. If it does get covered, it may just be a single paragraph buried deep in the back of the paper. It is just like car accident deaths: it's not "news" anymore.
330) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1646451)
Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Have to agree that the laws themselves are good, but the problem is that the sentencing is too damned lenient!

Drink/drugs driving?
Dangerous driving?

Automatic 5 year ban for both.

Cause of death by driving? automatic lifetime ban & stuff the claim that you'll lose your livelihood, you took a life, go stack shelves at Tesco's!


Might work in Europe, but in North America we have built a society so reliant on private cars that the sentences you are suggesting approach capital punishment. Our local equivalent of Tesco's may be an hour or more walk from your house, with little or no public transit and poor or non-existent sidewalks. Add in a Canadian winter and you have capital punishment.

The long term answer is better education. And better public transit.
331) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Only in Canada ..... (Message 1646141)
Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think a freezeway is a fine idea. However, Edmonton probably gets far less snow than the Boston-bay area, even excluding this past extraordinary winter.


You don't need snow to skate, just cold and water. Edmonton has LOTS of both. It also has lots of people that know how easy it is to create a rink (water is self leveling if applied in thin layers), and relatively easy to maintain. Shoveling level ice on skates is much easier than shoveling a paved driveway. Every town of any size in 90% of Canada maintains outdoor skating rinks, at fairly low cost.

As a youth, my parents bought a house in a new suburb, on the edge of a small town. There were paved roads back into town to get to my school, or a gravel road and a large field if you took a short cut through the uncompleted part of the suburb. The road and the field froze up quite nicely two winters in a row, and water is self leveling. As a result, my sister and I skated to and from school several weeks each winter. It was great fun, great exercise, and faster than walking the long way through town.
332) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX I - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1645630)
Posted 23 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Gosh darn it, Celttooth is right, eh.
333) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Linguistic fun... (Message 1645615)
Posted 23 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Canada used to have some regional dialects and accents, but network radio and TV are slowly eliminating those. I see a similar thing happening in the US. For years I worked for a multi-national that had a large plant in Texas, and visited it regularly. Some of the older guys on the shop floor had a classic Western movie Texas twang, all the younger guys in the front office sounded like a network TV newscast.

Some pockets still exist here in Canada, especially on the east coast. Lard t'underin Jaasus, dey talk funny eh.
334) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX I - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1645492)
Posted 23 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Oh sure Chris and Angela, rub it in.

(By the way, that is -40C. Which in F is, um, er, -40.)

Warnings
3:43 PM EST Sunday 22 February 2015
Extreme Cold Warning in effect for:

London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County
Strathroy - Komoka - Western Middlesex County
A period of very cold wind chills is expected.

As has been the case quite often this winter, bitterly cold arctic air is returning to Southern Ontario tonight in the wake of a sharp arctic cold front. Stiff northwesterly winds combining with very cold, possibly record setting minimum temperatures will once again result in extreme wind chills of minus 40 to minus 30 overnight and Monday morning.

People planning to be outdoors should dress appropriately and exercise caution. Exposed skin may freeze in as little as 10 minutes.

Wind chills will slowly improve somewhat Monday afternoon as temperatures moderate for a few hours. However latest indications suggest wind chills in many areas will dip back to near minus 30 again Monday night as this frigid arctic air mass prevails over the region.
335) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1644915)
Posted 21 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It's cheaper to clean up after an accident rather than do constant maintenance.


Exactly. You have to find a balance. You could reduce highway fatalities a fraction of a per cent by doubling road construction costs, but you have to ask if that is a wise use of the money. You could spend that money on medical research and save more lives, etc. Not an easy choice, but one that has to be made.
336) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1644645)
Posted 20 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
...I'm not talking about 100mph multi-thousand tonne trains, but about those trains running safely at speeds dictated by the topography of the line not the state of the line.
...


The speeds on commercial railways will always be set by economics, not topography. Unless you can show that better maintenance will improve the bottom line, North American railroads cannot spend more money on track maintenance without upsetting shareholders and possibly even violating fiduciary obligation laws. Even railroad accidents have an economic cost for the owner of the railroad, and this is part of the economic calculation that will determine how much money is spent on track maintenance. When governments don't agree with this, they can (and have) set minimum track quality requirements. But these minimums are pretty low, as some recent photos on here show.
337) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sonic Geometry: The Frequency of Form (Message 1644189)
Posted 19 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry, but it is a bunch of misleading information. I gave up watching when the narrator said all geometry is based on the number 60. Wrong. You should look in to the mystic implications of 2pi instead.
338) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1641854)
Posted 14 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

It looks to me, from the comfort of thousands of miles, that the US has to start to look to the way it uses and manages its railways - much of the track I saw in October last year was in poor condition, in part due to the amount of freight using it, but also the lack of maintenance investment.


North American railroad profits are at record levels. Their management is really only interested in the numbers for the next quarter, or maybe the next year at the most, so they have zero incentive to spend more than they do on track maintenance. Even government investment in things like elevated road crossings are only driven by death statistics. If nobody gets run over for several years, there will be no planning or budgeting for crossing upgrades.

Case in point - a few minutes drive from where I live there used to be a very old bridge over a CP mainline. The bridge was moved there from another crossing in the 1890s, the records of the origin of the bridge were lost. The bridge was owned by CP, and therefore licenced by CP. It was one lane wide. This worked fine as long as the road was a quiet rural road, but new subdivisions meant more traffic in the 1980s, and the bridge became a choke point. The city tried to get CP to contribute to replacing the bridge, they had zero interest. Finally, CP stopped maintaining the bridge, it lost its licence, and the bridge was closed. We got a new bridge then, entirely at city expense.
339) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1641553)
Posted 14 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It has been getting worse over the last 10 years Bernie, with freight traffic growth being limited only by how fast the North American lines can procure rolling stock. Passenger services just slide further and further down the list. The only exception is a few urban commuter services, like GO here in Ontario, that have built their own tracks.

Talk continues on a new high speed line from Windsor to Quebec City here in eastern Canada, but even that will need about 700 miles of completely new, or major upgraded, line. At your price of £80 million per mile that is £56,000 million. The area served has a population of about 15 million - that works out to £3,700 per person to build the track. I don't see that ever happening, without a major change in the local economy and/or how local politics work.

Just for example, I live in a city of about 300,000 people that would be on the new line. Right now there are two major rail lines passing through the town, and at last count there are dozens of level crossings (North American for the road and railway being at the same level) within the city limits. The city is slowly replacing these with elevated crossings, about one every ten or twenty years. The last one cost $130 million bucks, or £67 million. Again, without a major change in the local economy and/or how local politics work they will never replace all the level crossings before the oldest elevated crossings wear out and have to be replaced. Governments are afraid to launch a major project like this, because the expenditures will last till the next election. The railway companies' answer is to move the tracks out of town, which makes passenger service even less attractive.
340) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TV's and sound bars (Message 1641542)
Posted 13 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
From what I've read about the voice activated TVs the problem can be third party cookies, downloaded to the TV when you visit certain web sites through the TV. These cookies have been collecting usage data and transmitting it to the creator of the cookie for years, with the computer owner usually being totally unaware this is going on. The concern is that on these TVs the third party cookies could capture and transmit any sound reaching the TV.

Chris is doing the right things to prevent this, but I wonder how many other people are?
341) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1641408)
Posted 13 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The nearest we have is probably the Lickey Incline, 2 miles at 2.65%

Damn stupid way to build a railway!! Same as the line though Dawlish .....


It was assumed that cable or horse assist would be used on the steep bits back when you Brits built railroads like this. It looks silly today, but in 1832, compared to the roads that were available, it probably looked pretty cool.

342) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1641069)
Posted 13 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think many modern freight bogies also have some limited axle swing

No, they really don't.


Take a look at Figure 4 here. I'm sure I read somewhere about this showing up on freight trains in North America. Or maybe I'm thinking of passenger cars.

Found it! Maybe not in service, but tried on coal cars on CPR. Quote from page 676 of Wheel-Rail Interface Handbook edited by R. Lewis, U Olofsson. Flexible steerable bogies used on CPR coal trains since 1989, resulting in significant reduction in flange wear and tread shelling.

High speed passenger trains were tried in Canada back in the last century, but the problem still remains that nobody (private or government) wants to pay for the right of way upkeep this needs. Canadian freight operations are making good money right now and nobody in the industry wants to mess with that.

The Turbo Train between Toronto and Montreal in the 1960s to 1980s hit speeds of 140 mph on stretches of good tracks, but the scheduled times for the complete run then were only slightly better than today's diesel-electrics on the same run. Neither the Turbo or the modern trains regularly meet their schedules, as they are often held up by freights.
343) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1641063)
Posted 13 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
VIA Rail Canada trains currently go up to 100 MPH in some places


In Manitoba trains can get up to very high speeds on the 'National Hill,'
just out side of Winnipeg....



Oh now you've done it. The National Hill is supposed to be a secret. Even the people in Winnipeg don't know they have a Hill.
344) Message boards : Politics : Your patience levels? (Message 1640903)
Posted 12 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Way back in the last century, I had a university room mate who had grown up on a Michigan farm. Part of his daily chores had been to collect eggs in the morning, clean them, and take them in to town to deliver to customers. After some customers said they would pay extra for "really fresh" eggs, he started keeping some eggs uncleaned, and then charged extra for them.
345) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1640682)
Posted 12 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris I think the little weighted carts are being used to straighten the track, after it is laid, although in North America we use powered machines for this.

346) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1640491)
Posted 12 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think many modern freight bogies also have some limited axle swing, which helps as you said. Like the gravitational effects of slope, the power loss in a turn can be reduced by good track design. In this case, using large radius turns on modern rail beds. Power loss in the turn is also increased with speed increase. I watched a few unit trains loading coal in the BC interior and then unloading at Point Roberts on the coast. The loops at either end are the tightest radii on the run, and the trains are dead slow through these areas (for many reasons).

The total cost of transporting bulk goods is always a combination of capital costs and running costs. If you can amortize the capital cost of railroad construction and purchasing locos and rolling stock over many tons of freight, than very long trains on proper trackage remain one of the cheapest ways of transporting bulk cargo, as long as time is not a big factor. Second only to very large ships.

High speed passenger trains are a different calculation. If the distances are short (and therefore the capital cost of tracks relatively low) they can compete with airplanes given a good volume of paying passengers. Like in Europe or Japan. The same technology in the low population densities areas can only make sense if somebody else pays the capital costs, and if somebody subsidizes the running costs - like in China. Just my opinion, but it seems to be proven by the very limited number of profitable high speed trains in spread out, low population density, North America.
347) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1640014)
Posted 11 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
...so the lead loco isn't expected to pull the whole 99k tonnes.


Guys. Basic high school physics. the 99k tons (or tonnes) is supported by hundreds of wheels under the hundreds of cars. All the loco sees is the weight of the train times mu (coefficient of friction), plus slope effects. The reason railroads are so efficient and so cheap is that mu can be very low, less than .01 if the steels wheels and steel rails are well maintained. That means the loco sees 1%, or less, of the train weight on level ground.

Slope effect is minimized by keeping the slope of the rails very low. For modern railroads a slope of 1 in 100 (one foot vertical change for 100 foot length of rail) is considered steep. For a line built specifically for heavy load hauling a slope of 1 in 200 is more likely the maximum. Using a small angle assumption, that means the slope effect adds no more than 0.5 % of the train weight to the load seen by the engines. (An earlier post quoted a slope of 1 in 250 in the loaded direction for one of the heavy lines we are talking about.)

Modern freight cars, even two at a time, can generate very high loads at the couplers under high acceleration or heavy braking. So, yes, every car can withstand the sorts of loads seen on long freights. You just have to keep acceleration and deceleration to small levels, easily done with modern electronic controllers.
348) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1639952)
Posted 11 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It makes sense on the face of it, build an ore refinery next to the ore mine and just ship the processed metal out (hundreds of tonnes), rather than the thousands of tonnes of metal ore which will be largely 'waste' oxygen.


Except that refineries last a lot longer than the ore supply does. Many refineries here in Canada have outlived more than one mine, because they have good rail or sea connections.
349) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1639197)
Posted 9 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As much as possible, these trains are scheduled to run through the mountains in daylight and the boring plains at night.


In a classic example of accountants not giving a d**m, the last few years that CN and CP ran scheduled passenger service through the Canadian Rockies they scheduled the passenger trains to run at night, in order to allow the frieghts to run faster.
350) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1638919)
Posted 8 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That's the third time this video has been posted in this thread in the last few days. Does anybody actually look at the links?
351) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1637909)
Posted 5 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I haven't rode the GO Train here in Ontario in a few years, but they used to have an engine at one end, and a passenger car with a driver's cab at the other end. The trains ran a back and forth shuttle between the east and west suburbs of Toronto, and the engineer would move from engine to end car (or vice-versa) at each end of the run.

In this pic, the closest train is coming towards you, the driver is at the right (in the picture) front window.
352) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1637768)
Posted 5 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A cool video from a few days ago, in New Brunswick. They have just had 3 major storms in 10 days, with some spots getting 3 feet of snow in total. This video reminded me of Bernie's camera falling over, I guess this guy had a better tripod!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Yja2VmZOfdA
353) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1637363)
Posted 4 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used to hold a part while it is polished or turned?
354) Message boards : Politics : Your patience levels? (Message 1637137)
Posted 4 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A true democracy respects the wishes and needs of the minorities. Turn off your bloody TV when it comes on.
355) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1636822)
Posted 3 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, on a technicality I have to give this one to J. Mileski. It is for measuring spoke tensions. I thought it was just a wire tension device when I found the picture (and that was what I was looking for), but on reading about this particular one it is intended for spokes. You came a close second Admiral.
356) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1636627)
Posted 2 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Pressure relief valve


No.
357) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX I - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1636603)
Posted 2 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

OMG! He's not crazy, he's just Canadian!


Not about being crazy or Canadian, it's about being forward looking. I did it because I knew what the restaurant would look like after a dozen 6 year old boys got finished with it, I assume Mr. Es does it because he knows what the restaurant will look like when Ms. Es gets finished with it.
358) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX I - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1636589)
Posted 2 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All right you lot, get your minds out of the gutter. I'm talking about this kind of Beaver.
359) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1636588)
Posted 2 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry for the delay, but I've just spent 2 hours digging out half of my driveway. Taking a break now, before doing the other half. Here is an easy one.

360) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1636356)
Posted 2 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Pulling teeth?
361) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX I - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1636355)
Posted 2 Feb 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
After many years as a Beaver and Cub leader, I still have to stop myself from taking about 20 pounds of paper napkins from the dispenser whenever I'm in that kind of a restaurant. My Beaver turns 27 this year.
362) Message boards : Politics : Your patience levels? (Message 1635105)
Posted 30 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Bill, don't forget to mention
that we have a paved road now!


Yes, it runs from the National Igloo all the way to the Yoknapatawpha River. They have promised us street lights, as soon as we get electricity. It is hard to be patient, waiting for that.
363) Message boards : Politics : Your patience levels? (Message 1635003)
Posted 30 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Gordon, I think freeway design has evolved over the years. We used to live close to the QEW, the oldest divided highway in Canada, with some stretches dating back to the 1930s. Some of the old on-ramps were incredibly short. The original designers figured traffic was light enough that you could get up to 30 to 40 mph on the ramp, and then do the rest of your acceleration on the freeway itself. Just about all the old ramps have been replaced with much longer ones over the last 30 years.
364) Message boards : Politics : Your patience levels? (Message 1635002)
Posted 30 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
James, you are lucky if they are doing 45 on the ramp. For 6 years I worked in a small town just east of London, next to a freeway, that has two sets of ramps, at either end of the downtown. The quickest way to get across the town was to bypass downtown on the freeway. At least once a week I would spot a local on one of the on-ramps, stopped at the end of the ramp, waiting for a break in traffic to get on the freeway. Then they would drive at about 45 mph (speed limit is 60 mph) to the next ramp.

And I have no patience for old world people that think they own the English language. We share it, just like we share our Queen.
365) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1634828)
Posted 30 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Cherry pitter.
366) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1633828)
Posted 28 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Part of an optical rotary encoder?
367) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1633386)
Posted 27 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Modern technology at work.
368) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1633380)
Posted 27 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
David wins - with thanks to assorted smart-asses.

It is a ball viscometer. (At least that's the way we spells it up here.)

Ya' sets the angle, ya' drops the little metal ball in, and ya' times its descent.
369) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1633219)
Posted 26 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not a mixer, not an air density tester, not a centrifuge.

Celttooth and Graham are teasing you.
370) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1633126)
Posted 26 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Looks like a fly zapper! The bits in front of it are parts I assume?


Not a fly zapper, but the bits in front are an essential part.
371) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News V (Message 1633124)
Posted 26 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Had the same issue yesterday, a few minutes with Google sent me to http://idarionis.com/hydra/index.php which seems to work well.
372) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1633123)
Posted 26 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What substance is in it?



Whatever you like - first clue.
373) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1633023)
Posted 26 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Does it oscillate?


Not if you use it correctly.
374) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1632998)
Posted 26 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Fluid density tester


Very close Admiral, but not quite right.
375) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1632727)
Posted 25 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wow, two wins in one weekend.

I need the name of this device.

376) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1632686)
Posted 25 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Are they rollers, used under a heavy load?
377) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1632684)
Posted 25 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
"Bend" to me is a deliberate deforming of material. Straightening (to me) could also be the removal of wrinkles, warping, or other unintended deformations that were byproducts of another process (heat treating, curing, drying, etc.).
378) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1632607)
Posted 25 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used to straighten something?
379) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1632585)
Posted 25 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winner! J. Mileski nailed it exactly. Used to install o-rings or other sealing rings over threads and sharp corners. PM on its way.
380) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1632359)
Posted 24 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used properly,this tool makes blow ups and blow outs less likely (your next clue).
381) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1632277)
Posted 24 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Celttooth, I used them in a very different industry, but probably for a similar purpose. Keep posting, you might help others with your knowledge.
382) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1632257)
Posted 24 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Carlos, I used to work with a guy who wore bolo ties while using these. But they are not part of the tie.
383) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1632256)
Posted 24 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Celttooth is getting sort of close. Next clue: you use these to prepare something that might get very carefully placed into a "hole".

They come in a range of diameters, from fractions of an inch up to 6 or 8 inches (5mm to 20 cm). Those are just the ones I've used, they may come even larger.

Not a muffler, nothing to do with depleted uranium or rapid burning fuels.
384) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1631986)
Posted 24 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Some are hollow, some are not. The important thing is the outside shape (second clue).

Not for uranium fuel rods.
385) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1631663)
Posted 23 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not arrow points.

Highly unlikely to be associated with music, unless someone has invented a new way of powering musical instruments (first hint).
386) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1631492)
Posted 23 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nope.
387) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1631360)
Posted 22 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Carlos. Here is another easy one.

388) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1631096)
Posted 22 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Part of an automated baggage sorting system. Delivers bags to a carousel.
389) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Man Cave (Message 1629816)
Posted 19 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My wife has transit rights, to reach the lower basement and the beer fridge.

Quite right too, how else do you get your glass refilled?


I can refill it myself, or wait till hell freezes over (so I've been told).

Which makes me think of nomenclature (pardon the thread drift). The "beer fridge" holds a lot more than beer, but everybody I know in North America knows exactly what I mean when I use that term. Same with the "man cave", my wife has a lot of books and DVDs on the shelves, even the two grown and moved on kids left some books behind. But still it is the "man cave".

Similarly we have a "living room" and a "family room". The family lives in both, from time to time. Reminds me of the old Firesign Theatre sketch, where the butler tells a visitor that they can wait in the sitting room or sit in the waiting room.

One that may be unique to us is the name we give to the attached garage when it becomes the overflow cool food storage area around Christmas time. We call it "the walk in fridge".
390) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1629454)
Posted 18 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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A very old gearing drive, part of some larger rotary tool.
391) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Man Cave (Message 1629453)
Posted 18 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My man cave is the stereo room: a comfy chair and a couch surrounded by bookcases, CD shelves, and LP shelves. I currently have the Christmas jigsaw puzzle set up on a folding table in one corner. My wife has transit rights, to reach the lower basement and the beer fridge.
392) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1629200)
Posted 18 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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That was quick! Yes, a chain saw sharpener.
393) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1628980)
Posted 17 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Thanks Admiral. I expect Celttooth will get this one quickly, as every REAL Canadian has one of these in their tool box. I need the function of this tool, it has various names.

394) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1628415)
Posted 16 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Spark plug leads?
395) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1628199)
Posted 16 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This would ruin your day.
396) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1628194)
Posted 15 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
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Does Porsche give you this to snap and unsnap harness connectors?
397) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1627964)
Posted 15 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A clip that retains one half of a harness connector?
398) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1627244)
Posted 14 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wireless antenna?
399) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V6 (Message 1627239)
Posted 14 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Grounding point on a Porsche electronics box?
400) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ever wondered why ...... (Message 1626338)
Posted 11 Jan 2015 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why when you walk in the rain you get more on the inside of the lenses than the outside?


When you walk you produce local air flow around the front of the lens that drives many of the drops to the edge, and then off the lens. The local airflow also speeds evaporation on the front of the lens. The back of the lens doesn't see this airflow, so anything that reaches there stays there for a longer time.
401) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1619969)
Posted 29 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
How big is this thing? Little ones (under 20 mm diameter) are used to deburr hole intersections in hydraulic fluid passages. That is done in airplane components, but also in farm tractors and earth movers.
402) Message boards : Politics : North Korea. (Message 1619967)
Posted 29 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

"they hate us because they ain't us"


+1

Yes, the movie insults North Korea. It also insults Eminem, the CIA, reality TV, TV production in general, and American values in general. In an odd 21st century kind of way, being insulted in a Hollywood B movie is your sign that you have arrived. North Korea should be happy because of the company they find themselves in.
403) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy B-Day Chris S! (Message 1619447)
Posted 27 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Happy Day After Your Birthday Chris.
404) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Berks R Us Report (Message 1617841)
Posted 23 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ouch. My Sony blew over on a tripod a few years ago, but it only received a few dents to the metal work and continues to work just fine. Hope your Canon is recoverable Bernie.
405) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tech support scammer (Message 1617438)
Posted 22 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Gary I suspect the big telcoms could end this - if they wanted to. They are getting too big a cut to try and stop this sort of thing.
406) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tech support scammer (Message 1617164)
Posted 22 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The trouble is that all these people work for foreign call centres where your own countries legislation has no legal effect.


In Canada more and more of these calls show up as a Canadian phone number, even though they plainly come from somewhere else. Our local phone companies make this possible, for a fee. Lots of blame to go around, in my opinion.

Same with 1-900 numbers that leave you a message, saying to call for your free prize. They put you on hold, you phone number gets billed by the minute, and the phone company gets a cut of this. Who is the crook here?
407) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Some inventions need to be banned before manufacture (Message 1617161)
Posted 22 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You can kill a lot more people in much less time with a gun. Don't see those being outlawed in the US any time soon.
408) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1616743)
Posted 20 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used to hone a flat or spherical surface?
409) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX I - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1616653)
Posted 20 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think I mentioned this before Angela, but we get a few of the cinnamon raccoons around here. Like you, I though I was going crazy until I Googled it.
410) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1616650)
Posted 20 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used for polishing / burnishing metal, probably bores.
411) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Berks R Us Report (Message 1616052)
Posted 19 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My father was born left handed, but had it literally beaten out of him by the nuns in the primary school he attended. His hand writing was horrible till the day he died.

I, and my son, are left handed, and have fair hand writing. Of course, we suffer when we use ink, as the left hand moves over fresh writing before the ink dries. Penmanship is the least of a lefties problems today, however. Try convincing the right handed majority that regular scissors don't work, many switches work the wrong way, etc.

Not to offend anyone, but based on years of reading it appears that there are two kinds of left handed people. Type one - genetic. Given three (at least) generations in my male line, I think we fall into this category. This group appears, statistically, to have higher IQs. Type two - resulting from brain damage at birth. This groups appears, statistically, to have higher rates of anti-social behavior and criminal activity. The Type Twos have given us lefties a bad name down through the ages. "Sinister" originally meant "left handed".
412) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption #58 (Message 1611121)
Posted 9 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I gotta GO!
413) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1611064)
Posted 9 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Flight involves leaving the earth. Could be space flight.
414) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1610815)
Posted 8 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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An old flightworthy hard disc.
415) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Berks R Us Report (Message 1609978)
Posted 6 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I am speechless.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-s-worst-driver-youtube-video-spurs-police-investigation-1.2862750
416) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1609683)
Posted 6 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris, the Canadian railroads had a long history of chemical suppression of rail side growth on an industrial scale. I suspect that modern laws have put some restrictions on that now, but back in the day if you wanted to really REALLY kill some troublesome weeds, you tried to find a railroad man.

Not naming names, but I know of a gravel driveway near a rail yard in a certain western Canadian city that has been totally vegetation free for 50+ years. And that is even after the new property owners tried to relocate the driveway, and grow grass where the old driveway had been
417) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Black Friday (Message 1608892)
Posted 4 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My last involvement with Black Friday found me at a mall (for a legitimate reason) walking past a long line of young hipsters waiting to get into an Apple store. I stopped, surveyed the scene, and announced "Sheep! Mindless sheep!" in a loud clear voice. They all avoided eye contact with me. My wife doesn't let me go to the mall on Black Fridays anymore.
418) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Jean Béliveau a true gentleman RIP..... (Message 1608748)
Posted 3 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very sad. And Gordie Howe looks to be next. Saw Johnny Bower on the TV a few nights ago, he's looking good for 90.
419) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dead phone (Message 1608479)
Posted 3 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why wait 2 years, when you can buy it now?

Of course it is terribly wasteful of energy, and generates all sorts of RF fields we don't really understand yet, but hey. That hasn't stopped us before.
420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : British vs. French system (Message 1607680)
Posted 1 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The warmer guinness is it tastes better (up to a point) but it gets worse to pour. On hot days we used to turn the cooler up to make it easier to serve, but we got some complaints that it was too cold. It was a juggling act. The worst beer in the whole wide world is universally acclaimed as Watneys Red Barrel, now thankfully discontinued. Watneys Mild was nothing more than coloured water and came a close second.


You need to widen your horizons to find truly bad beer. This is what I had in mind when I said "for some beers removing tastes and flavours is an improvement".

421) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1607678)
Posted 1 Dec 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used for heading nails?
422) Message boards : Cafe SETI : British vs. French system (Message 1607347)
Posted 30 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Taste and flavours often get lost with lower temperatures.


With some beers that is an improvement!
423) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1607346)
Posted 30 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Anything to do with brick laying?
424) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1607343)
Posted 30 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
He was hiding behind the settee :-))))


In Canuckistan you hide behind the chesterfield.
425) Message boards : Technical News : Another Update (Nov 21, 2014) (Message 1607341)
Posted 30 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
(an old) Newbie here. (trans. have been away for a while...)

Any reason not to "Suspend" project until informed here that things are up and running again?

Thanks.


I'm still getting a few work units once in awhile. Maybe re-sends, or maybe they re-split a data tape occasionally. I'm leaving S@H on, and running some backup projects. That way I will get new WUs when they are available, with no further input from me.
426) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1606916)
Posted 29 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used to clean flesh off animal hides?
427) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1606591)
Posted 28 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I need a vaporizer ray.
428) Message boards : Cafe SETI : British vs. French system (Message 1606570)
Posted 28 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Celsius and Kelvin use the same unit, but are very different measurement scales, generally used for very different purposes.

And Chris, water freezes at 0C and boils at 100C at one very specific pressure, in one very specific atmosphere. And it has to be very pure water. All these measurement systems and units are arbitrary. As I said before, it just depends which one you get used to.

This sums it up nicely.
429) Message boards : Cafe SETI : British vs. French system (Message 1605049)
Posted 25 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This of course brings to mind the Mars Climate Orbiter incident in 1999: "The 'root cause' of the loss of the spacecraft was the failed translation of English units into metric units in a segment of ground-based, navigation-related mission software - -"



This to me is still not a root cause, it is just a symptom. You don't correct problems by telling people "don't do that again". Humans don't work that way. You might be able to correct the problem if you know WHY the human made the mistake, and then fixed that. Better expressed root causes might be "a lack of fluency in multiple unit systems" and/or "a lack of understanding of the presented data because of a lack of fluency in different unit systems", and/or "a lack of understanding of the presented data because of a lack of understanding of the task described by the presented data".

Just saying you shouldn't be too quick to blame the metric system.
430) Message boards : Cafe SETI : British vs. French system (Message 1605030)
Posted 24 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I can't get too excited about the whole Imperial versus Metric thing. After 40 years of working around the globe in engineering, I realize there is metric, and then there is metric. Ask industries in 5 different metric countries what the standard units are for pressure, and you will get at least 6 different answers.

It all boils down to local preferences, and if you want to work in a region you need to learn to communicate with those people. Base ten makes some thing easier, but you can learn almost anything if you have to. I can still recite the decimal equivalent, and the millimetre equivalent, of most 32nd and 64th fractions of an inch. That's after two years of working in a drawing office that used inch fractions on the drawings, but bought material in inch decimals and metric.
431) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption #58 (Message 1604699)
Posted 24 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Alright, judging time. Several good ones, but nobody used my first idea "how much further to Florida?"

Third place to Celttooth "we fought the British for this place?" I think that every time I visit Buffalo.

Second to Admiral Gloval (Where's that darn newspaper?) and Wiggo (I hope that I have mail when I get to that letterbox) for very similar thoughts.

But first has to got to David, if only because that very thing has happened to me several times: "Why didn't I put gas in the snow blower last week?"

PM on its way.
432) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption #58 (Message 1604080)
Posted 22 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Celttooth. Here is one for my soul mates stuck in the snow in Buffalo.

433) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dead phone (Message 1603826)
Posted 22 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Eric worked on a satellite once that got rained on. Somebody forgot to close a dome door. Anyway, it turns out electronics can be "washed". Just don't turn them on until they are dry. The satellite worked fine once it was completely dried.

Absolutely nothing wrong with water and electronics, the water just has to be pure distilled or de-ionized, with no contaminates.
I used to work on 20 kW water cooled amplifiers. The supply voltage was ~35 kV.

It's the conducting contaminating dirt that does the damage.


Or other additives in the water. A few years back I rented about $100K worth of high speed camera and associated electronics, and had just opened the shipping crate when some genius cut the wrong wire while working on the building electrical system and set off the foam sprinkler right above the open crate. The guys we rented it from were very understanding - I would have been looking for somebody to shoot. They came out, carefully dried it all, then declared it all ruined, and shipped us another set the next day. They did ask us, very politely, to be careful with the second set.
434) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption #58 (Message 1603339)
Posted 21 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Make love, not war.
435) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Talk about your profile pic (Message 1602319)
Posted 19 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A photo of my dad at work, about 1959.
436) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1601487)
Posted 15 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Gary has the symptom, but the cause remains the pursuit of money, regardless of other results. It is easy to count money, and therefore easy to compare your financial results and efforts to others, so too many people focus on those numbers only. History will tell if we missed some other important results along the way.
437) Message boards : Politics : on the political correctness of political correctness (Message 1601481)
Posted 15 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
our use of the words "dark skinned" could be perceived as a form of oppression. You appear to be automatically connecting "Dark skinned" and "beggar". Couldn't you have made your point by saying "...approached by a beggar"?

My point is that there is lots of oppression to go around. Nobody seems to have an exclusive claim on it anymore.

OMG. This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say how meanings have been stretched. There is no way I was inferring that "all beggars are dark skinned" or that "all dark skinned people are beggars" and if you think either of those terms was what I meant you really need to detune your sensitivity. That is exactly the sort of PC BS this thread is about.


Or maybe you need to retune your sensitivity. Go ask a black person what they make of your statement. I bet their take is different from yours. I'm not being PC here, I'm just trying to help us middle aged white guys not look so bad in the eyes of others.

It was an accurate description of the beggar in question and no, I couldn't have made the point without giving a description of said beggar


But you have clouded the discussion with colour terms, and hidden what (IMO) is the real issue. This happens to me too here in Canada, with beggars of all colours. The real issue is how should we deal with economic differences. When a white guy starts talking colour, a lot of people tune out from what could be a meaningful discussion. I'm not being PC here either. I'm striving for truth and accuracy, and trying to have a discussion with people who are different from me in a lot of ways.

The reason I used the term "dark skinned" was to demonstrate why the beggar used the term "White c***"". If the beggar had been white, he would have just called me the name without the adjective.

T.A.


See? You could have made the point without mentioning skin colour. That again is not being PC. It is striving to start and maintain an important discussion.
438) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas Wish List (Message 1601284)
Posted 15 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
World peace, and a really good cigar.
439) Message boards : Politics : on the political correctness of political correctness (Message 1601283)
Posted 15 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm walking through the shopping centre and get approached by a dark skinned beggar, who hits me up for money and cigarettes. When I politely refuse to give him anything, he calls me a "White "C" word" and takes a step towards me.

Who has the most right to feel "oppressed" and "offended" in this situation, the beggar or me ?

T.A.


Your use of the words "dark skinned" could be perceived as a form of oppression. You appear to be automatically connecting "Dark skinned" and "beggar". Couldn't you have made your point by saying "...approached by a beggar"?

My point is that there is lots of oppression to go around. Nobody seems to have an exclusive claim on it anymore.
440) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1600899)
Posted 14 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

I did forget that the bean counters prefer profits over safety:(


History may well record that our current civilization was destroyed by accountants focusing on the next quarterly statement.
441) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1600898)
Posted 14 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another very specific wood plane of some sort. For cutting some particular shape.
442) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1600479)
Posted 13 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Years ago, Volunteer Park in Seattle had similar squirrels. They would be at (or on) your feet, for a few minutes. If you didn't feed them right away they moved on to the next human.

PS: People Who Know This Stuff tell me that squirrels don't hibernate here in Canada, at least not in the same way bears do. They may snooze for a day or three in really cold weather, but eventually they get up and look for food.
443) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1600478)
Posted 13 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Mitre saw guide?
444) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1600221)
Posted 12 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used in weaving?
445) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1600220)
Posted 12 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There is a requirement for fuselage reinforcement in the plane of the prop blade, but that is aimed at ice chunks being flung off. The path taken by anything coming off the prop (like a chunk of blade) is fairly complicated, and depends on the power being produced at the time the chunk comes off. A blade under power comes off moving out and forward, a blade at lower speed and flat pitch could come off going out and rearwards.

If you want to cover all the possibilities you end up with a big stretch of fuselage off limits. Not likely to happen in today's economics. Remember, this is the industry that is proposing to get rid of seats completely, to jam more cattle, er, passengers in.

446) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1600215)
Posted 12 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Something to do with shoes?
447) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To whom it may concern..... (Message 1600050)
Posted 12 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Almost hockey eh?



The Leafs have been losing for some time now. The Season has begun.
448) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1600049)
Posted 12 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But drastic changes, like droughts, can make formerly minor changes in characteristics big winners or big losers. We are in a very interesting period, evolution-wise.
449) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1599957)
Posted 12 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Angela, we had a cinnamon raccoon in our back yard last year, a young one. Like you, I had to Google it to convince myself it really was a raccoon. Only saw it the once, which may not mean anything since our raccoons appear to only come out at night, and stay away from man made lights. We might see 2 or 3 a year.
450) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who farted??? (Message 1598730)
Posted 8 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You have my full permission Celttooth.
451) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1597007)
Posted 5 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Old computer core memory?
452) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption #58 (Message 1596719)
Posted 4 Nov 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Practicing for the newest Olympic sport: the bicycle toss.
453) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1594718)
Posted 31 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Setting the end angle when sharpening a drill bit?
454) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1594677)
Posted 31 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used to set the angle when sharpening a cutting edge.

OK, we are getting close. A cutting edge on what kind of tool.


Something big and beefy, not a kitchen knife. For sharpening/forming metal cutting tools?
455) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If you're snakesd and you know it clap yuor hands. (Message 1594676)
Posted 31 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Clap. Clap. Clap.
456) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1594641)
Posted 30 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used to set the angle when sharpening a cutting edge.
457) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original Cafe - restocked & opened 27/7/2014 (Message 1593229)
Posted 28 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
458) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 2014 MLB World Series (Message 1593220)
Posted 28 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I see all the American teams playing. When does the rest of the world get to play?
459) Message boards : Politics : You go Canada! (Message 1593219)
Posted 28 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Newfoundland was a direct British colony until 1949. There were no Canadian troops in the Gallipoli campaign.
460) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1592928)
Posted 27 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The original Weiner-mobile is on display at the Henry Ford Museum just outside of Detroit. This is a place where many of us techies regularly go to worship. I understand they have already placed a bid on Celttooth's butt.
461) Message boards : Politics : You go Canada! (Message 1592925)
Posted 27 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The Newfoundland Regiment lost 30 men to enemy action and 10 men to disease at Gallipoli, out of a total strength of 1,076. They were one of the first units in, and one of the last units out.
462) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1592258)
Posted 26 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Pasta cutter?
463) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Retro: tv,movies,radio, CS,etc. (Message 1591672)
Posted 25 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Mr. Ed and Francis the talking mule.

Cheers.


I have to be very careful in commenting on that show. My wife's middle name is Frances.
464) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Retro: tv,movies,radio, CS,etc. (Message 1591342)
Posted 24 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My local cable company has a fireplace channel, 24 7, complete with gentle crackling sounds. Looks good on a big screen TV.
465) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1591340)
Posted 24 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Over here Chris pre-fab and manufactured can be slightly different. Pre-fab, as you say, arrives at the job site as flat panels, usually with wiring and plumbing at least partially installed. A manufactured house arrives as one or more 3D modules. They are often fully plumbed and wired, even painted and trimmed. Kind of like a mobile home without wheels.

The most common way of making detached houses in Canada these days is a mix of build on site and pre-fab. The walls arrive as a bundle of 2 by 4s and are assembled on site. The roof trusses and maybe main floor beams are factory assembled and shipped to the site.

Brick and mortar just can't compete on a cost basis with this type of construction. Yeah, I know a brick and mortar home will last a lot longer, but the average North American is only willing to pay for his house, not for the house that others (probably not related to him) will live in for a few centuries. In any case, even if a North American would live in the house for 50 or so years they will probably want to do a major rebuild or two along the way.

Good luck with this Vic.
466) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1591139)
Posted 24 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sten-Arne has rocked this one. His answer sends me over the moon.
467) Message boards : Politics : You go Canada! (Message 1591138)
Posted 24 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I don't know why I bother to argue with you idiots, but here goes.

His passport application was under investigation because of his criminal background. WE feel a duty to our neighbours to keep these people at home, where we can watch them. This same background make it illegal for him to possess any weapons.

If you Yanks don't mind, we could change a few laws, hire a few buses, and clean up our street of petty criminals and nutbars.
468) Message boards : Politics : You go Canada! (Message 1591049)
Posted 23 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The shooter in Ottawa didn't have his passport revoked. He wasn't on any RCMP watch list. What he did have was a history of mental health issues, and a lengthy criminal record (all petty stuff). Maybe the real question is where does a guy like this get a gun?
469) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Retro: tv,movies,radio, CS,etc. (Message 1590278)
Posted 22 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Bill, did you ever catch Max Ferguson?

I remember that from many years ago.



Oh yeah. Loved it.
470) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Retro: tv,movies,radio, CS,etc. (Message 1590143)
Posted 22 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For the aging Canucks out there:

Beachcombers
King of Kensington
Forest Rangers
This Hour Has Seven Days
And the voice of Foster Hewitt, "Hello, Canada, and hockey fans in the United States and Newfoundland."
471) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My bum's itchy. (Message 1589478)
Posted 20 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In the name of honesty, simplicity, and making things easier for people who's first language may not be English, I hereby propose that henceforth we refer to Celttooth's butt as:

CELTTOOTH'S BUTT
472) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just some Questions reguarding SETI@Home. (Message 1588755)
Posted 18 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I know Spud1200 is a newbie and doesn't yet understand most of what makes Seti@home tick, but this would have been better posted in Number crunching. We get this time and time again. What is needed is a comprehensive starter pack for new crunchers which they could download, or start up a "Freshers" type thread over in NC.


I used http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_help_desk.php for this in my early days. It is still there.
473) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1588344)
Posted 17 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You have to have the gear to match the snow.

474) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1588007)
Posted 16 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
"517 accidents reported". Isn't that just another day in Moscow?
475) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Thanks giving Day Canada! (Message 1586396)
Posted 13 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Right back at you Celttooth. We have assembled as much of the family as could make it, and are about to attack a turkey.
476) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1585799)
Posted 12 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A hand drill.

Some people call this a bit and brace, but that is not correct. No gear in a bit and brace.
477) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1585601)
Posted 12 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Does twisting this increase its diameter?
478) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1585031)
Posted 10 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Looks like it is for slicing something?
479) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favorite candy bars (Message 1584097)
Posted 9 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
David and Chris, you have both missed the proper name of the Canadian version of fried potato I pictured. They are truly part of Canadian culture, just like

480) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption #57 (Message 1583071)
Posted 7 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Two more kids and we'll have enough to make kinder nachos.
481) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favorite candy bars (Message 1583062)
Posted 7 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I was amazed at the number of North American fast food chains I found in the malls on a recent trip to Turkey. KFC, Pizza Hut, Arby's, etc.
482) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favorite candy bars (Message 1582810)
Posted 7 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hi:
I know what I call that stuff, but
I hesitate to talk about it as I
fear they may steal it away from us
like they did with zippers and basketball....


... and Justin Beiber.
483) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favorite candy bars (Message 1582805)
Posted 7 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Angela, "charm" is one word for it.

Your recipe reminded me of my grandfather's recipe for blending corn syrup and peanut butter. You start with some of each on the plate, mix it to the perfect consistency, then add more syrup, or more p.b., as required to use up the left overs. You continue this until my grandmother tells you to get the hell out of her kitchen.
484) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favorite candy bars (Message 1582804)
Posted 7 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Celttooth, the poor Yanks don't have any kind of decent uqhuq (outside of Alaska). Even though its health benefits have been scientifically proven, over and over. Tough, eh?
485) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favorite candy bars (Message 1582802)
Posted 7 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All right then Chris, what do you call this?

486) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1582359)
Posted 6 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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CN owns the Algoma Central now, and runs the Canyon tour train, but the other passenger services on the line are still run by Algoma. The train that goes all the way to Herst and back still does whistle stops, and there are many resorts and cabins along the line only accessible by rail. If you give them 24 hours notice, they will drop or pick up you and your gear (boat, snowmobile or whatever) just about anywhere on the line.

487) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1582334)
Posted 5 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just finishing up our annual trip to see the fall colours, this year it included a one day rail trip. The Agawa Canyon excursion is run by the CN, on the old Algoma Central line north of Sault St. Marie, Ontario. The CN bought a new (to them) set of Electromotive F40s and rail cars a few years ago just for this seasonal run.

The train leaves the Soo very early. Our hotel was just across the road from the station, so it wasn't too much of a hardship.


The cars were in pretty good shape. I'm used to riding historical trains, and a lot of times "historical" means "in rough shape". Not these.




Typical scenery on the 4 hour ride to the Agawa Canyon.


Heading north the train had two locos at the front, and one at the rear. No facilities to turn trains or engines at the Canyon, so the two front ones were run around and added to the third on the south end for the trip home.


All set for the run back to the Soo.


I'll add some scenery shots to the Scenery thread in a bit.
488) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Scenery (Message 1582203)
Posted 5 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Bernie, that water tower looks like it is leaning a bit...
489) Message boards : Cafe SETI : An ugly duckling or not? (Message 1581795)
Posted 4 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Airplanes are kind of like kids. The one you work on is the most beautiful airplane in the world - to you.

490) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favorite candy bars (Message 1580904)
Posted 2 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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My personal favorite is the Payday. Not available in Canada, so I look forward to my visits to the US. Yanks, don't let anybody tell you that the US never contributed anything worthwhile to global culture.

And deep fried Mars bars are available in a few places in Canada. Usually served by food trucks, I call them A Little Bit of Heaven on a Paper Plate.
491) Message boards : Politics : Canada offers to bring water to 3rd world! (Message 1580444)
Posted 1 Oct 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Geez, it's space year 2014, the USA is one of the richest countries in the world, and they're still having trouble with a water supply?!

I can understand Saharan Africa having problems, but America?


The symptom is water, but the root cause is money. And a lack of a social conscience.
492) Message boards : Cafe SETI : book readers (Message 1573189)
Posted 17 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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I recently found a first edition of Pearl S. Buck's Peony for an absolute steal in a used book store. Don't judge the story outside of the time it was written, but it is quite the little page turner.


My mother was a serious Pearl S. Buck fan. I think I still have some of her Buck books in boxes in the basement, along with the poetry books my mother collected.
Taken in strictly modern terms, some of Buck's work seems incredibly racist. But in context, she was one of the first popular western authors to portray Asians as "normal people".
493) Message boards : Cafe SETI : book readers (Message 1573046)
Posted 17 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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I have recently discovered Project Gutenberg, to go with a Kindle I "inherited" from my kids. I get their hand-me-downs when they move on to newer technology.

Now on Volume 2 (of 6) of "The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" by Gibbons. Heavy going, but interesting.
494) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Scenery (Message 1572498)
Posted 16 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Here is my own shot of one of the sites in Celttooth's last video: The Seven Sisters. One of my favorite spots in Banff. (there is one more to the left, and three to the right, for a total of seven.)

495) Message boards : Politics : ECONOMICS!! (Message 1572399)
Posted 15 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can somebody explain how stricter voter ID rules would have prevented Box 13?
496) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1571872)
Posted 14 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Tensiometer of some sort.
497) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1571615)
Posted 13 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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A vernier measuring device?
498) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is anyone famous left? (Message 1571480)
Posted 13 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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You, me, and Julie, Chris.
499) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is anyone famous left? (Message 1571211)
Posted 12 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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You and me, Chris.
500) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1569966)
Posted 10 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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I'm rather shocked you would make that statement. Currently, this should be discussed in the pun thread.
501) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1569784)
Posted 9 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, some sort of current limiter or protector. If it is not starting a load, is it protecting from peak loads on a line?
502) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1569780)
Posted 9 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is part of the start up wiring of a really big electrical load, probably a large electric motor.
503) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's for breakfast? (Message 1569685)
Posted 9 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Today was home made peach muffins. I love the fresh fruit season.
504) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1569434)
Posted 9 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Looks like some sort of variable power supply. A portable transformer, or a power supply tester?
505) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What does being GREENmean to you? (Message 1568437)
Posted 6 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is people like you two that make it difficult to be green.
506) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What does being GREENmean to you? (Message 1568265)
Posted 6 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
507) Message boards : Politics : So, where is the thread against Islamic violence? (Message 1568241)
Posted 6 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Probably no thread with that topic because the topic is so blatantly racist. If the actions of ISIS and their kind deserve a thread about "Islamic violence", then we also need threads about "Christian violence" or "middle aged white guy violence" because of people like Wade Page or Scott Roeder (Google them).

By all means condemn violence, but don't justify the actions of these people by becoming the semi-fictional bigots that these groups (Islamic, Christian or whatever) claim exist in order to advance their primarily political agendas.
508) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1567553)
Posted 5 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nozzle for a daylighter?

I have no idea what a daylighter is, but this is not one.


I think you Yanks call them hydrovacs. High pressure water into a hole, mud gets vacuumed out, so you can dig up a buried wire or pipe without breaking it.

509) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1567353)
Posted 5 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nozzle for a daylighter?
510) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1567074)
Posted 4 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Pressure relief valve?
511) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1566998)
Posted 4 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think I see a tapered thread and an internal passage at one end. Do you screw this into a fluid system to get a sample or introduce something into the fluid?
512) Message boards : Politics : What a shame (Message 1566310)
Posted 3 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Amen.
513) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's for breakfast? (Message 1566268)
Posted 2 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Tea and toast. On the weekends, or when I have the day off, a second cup of tea after I finish the toast.
514) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V5 (Message 1565689)
Posted 1 Sep 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used to install o-rings or packings?
515) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News V (Message 1565162)
Posted 30 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Have to love the NC4. Thanks Michael.
516) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1564014)
Posted 28 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Same in Canada, the SD40-2 is rarely seen outside of a yard now, and even there they are fading.

Never realized the "European" style locos I watched coming out of the Electromotive plant for so many years were just re-packaged SD40s. I guess the European right of way clearances didn't permit the big cab that North American crews loved?

517) Message boards : Politics : The reassertion of whiteness in Canada (Message 1562152)
Posted 25 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Sadly, Es is correct. Sometimes it takes a newcomer to see what the rest of us just accept as "normal".
518) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1561360)
Posted 24 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Err thank you TA, I think, but I knew all that.

What I wanted was an answers to the question as to why the 66 series locos built in Canada for the UK would have been tested with different gauge trucks, which were then changed before shipping. As I thought Canada and the USA had the same gauge as the UK.

However it seems the same style loco was sold to other countries where the gauge was different.


There are still a few oddball gauges in North America Bernie, both tourist lines and working lines.

As you said, I guess the ones I saw leave on flatbeds were bound for obscure corners of the globe. BTW, we had one leave by Antonov several years ago. Made the local news. Apparently it was going to Ireland.

519) Message boards : Politics : The reassertion of whiteness in Canada (Message 1561357)
Posted 24 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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While hardly from an unbiased source, the story does point out that our current Federal government is very, shall we say, retro. We will have a chance to tell them what we think of this in the next election, unlike most of the countries where al Jazeera broadcasts.

PS - I didn't vote for Harper or any of his minions.
520) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Extra care with technology (Message 1560901)
Posted 22 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Actually, Bernie, for several years now; Gas station pay pumps require the customer to put in their Postal Zip Code for security to authorize the charge on the pump. Since your card is from outside the US; you may not have been subject to that security measure.


In fact, us Canucks are hit by this. You can't enter a Canadian postal code on the gas pump keyboard, so the credit card company will give you a special postal code to use. One more string of numbers to remember. Sigh. If you are near the border, the attendants understand this, and will activate the machine after seeing your Canadian credit card. Further south, they look at you like you have two heads, and tell you to pay cash.

However; I still wish the US would get chip and pin cards. They are much more secure.


Last May, in Colorado, my chip cards worked just fine. A few stores in smaller towns mentioned that we were the first to use a chip card since they got the new readers.

For the last 17 years the city we live in in Canada has been a target marketing area for new technologies like this. First to get debit cards into smaller stores, first to get wireless card readers to use at your table in the restaurant, first with chip cards, etc. It is sometimes a little surprising to go back in time visiting other towns, Canadian or US.

The Finns are way ahead of us on all this. I was quite surprised some 14 years ago to stick my bank card into an ATM in Tampere, and watch the screen change from Finnish to a French and English menu asking me which of the two official Canadian languages I wished to use.
521) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Doctor Will be Back ... (Message 1559211)
Posted 20 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For all you Canucks: the new Doctor starts on Space on 23 August. My PVR is already set.
522) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1559210)
Posted 20 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used to put an edge on something while it is hot. Glass or metal?
523) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car transmissions - Standard or automatic? (Message 1557582)
Posted 15 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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On my Accord, with the radio at normal volume, the tach is the best way of telling when the auto transmission shifts. For the techno geeks, it also shows when the torque converter lockup kicks in and out. Like Vic said, that is all about gas mileage, if you know what the information means.

As a professional techno geek, I would like to see more instrumentation, like electrical, oil pressure, fuel pressure, etc. From time spent testing digital controls in other vehicles, I would love to be able to monitor bus traffic and see what the computers are doing at any time. However, 99% of the driving public today wouldn't get any real information from that sort of stuff. Those are the people the car companies design their product for.
524) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car transmissions - Standard or automatic? (Message 1557507)
Posted 15 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Way back in 1965 Esso had an ad campaign for "put a tiger in your tank", and gave out free tigers tails. All us young lads had one on our aerials. Of course they were just cloth, not real ones.


They made a brief come back over here in the mid 1980s, and were sold as "Crushed Kitties". I remember the chief inspector where I worked took a very dim view of the one we added to the back door of a helicopter.
525) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car transmissions - Standard or automatic? (Message 1557283)
Posted 15 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It might have been something like that Chris. There was no label (or the label had fallen off), and the only visible result of pushing the button was the brake lights coming on. The machine was 4th or 5th hand, and the manual was long gone by the time I got my hands on it.
526) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car transmissions - Standard or automatic? (Message 1556960)
Posted 14 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I agree with David. What we call a fender on a car is, I believe, called a wing in the UK.

On boats, however, a fender is a bumper, something hung over the side of the boat to keep the dock from scratching your paintwork.
527) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car transmissions - Standard or automatic? (Message 1556959)
Posted 14 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I learned to drive on a 1967 Ford LTD with a foot switch for the high beams. The family also had an early 60s Vauxhall (sp?) with some very strange switches (by local standards anyway). I recall a momentary push button on the dash that turned on the brake lights without applying the brakes. Can any of you Brits tell me what that was all about?

Non-engineers can skip this part: It took until well into the 1970s for relays to become cheap enough and reliable enough to put things like dimmer switches on a "stalk", as we call them in North America. The foot switch on the LTD was a massive lump of iron that had the whole headlight current pass through it, using really big cables. If you tried to put all that anywhere on the steering column you might not have been able to see out the windshield.
528) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1556952)
Posted 14 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

I wonder why, as apparently USA, Canada UK and Europe share the same standard gauge 4 ft 8 1⁄2 in, and I can find no mention of the truck swap.

I know that the Flying Scotsman toured for several years in the USA and again I can find no mention of gauge problems and that would have been quite a job to convert that!!

I suspect the answer is out there somewhere.


EMD's customer base included South America and North Africa, not sure where these particular engines wound up. I only know this from some consulting work I did for one of their suppliers here in London, documenting equivalency of North American wiring standards with other countries.
529) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car transmissions - Standard or automatic? (Message 1556722)
Posted 14 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Celt, parking brakes work fine in Alberta winters, but sometimes give problems in Ontario winters. We have a lot more wet snow here, and this can turn into ice overnight on the exposed portions of the brake mechanism. This prevents it from fully releasing the next morning, even though handles go to the "off" position and lights turn off. Most drivers just drive on, with a partially set brake. They don't realize this is happening, until the next time they take the car in for brake servicing.

Must say this has only happened to me on older frame style cars. The new unibodies seem to have all the moving brake bits inside, out of the snow.
530) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1556720)
Posted 14 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very interesting Bernie. FYI, EMD London shut down a few years ago. Cat bought the plant, and then moved all the production to their existing US facilities. If you need a bit more room, there is a "for sale" on the plant now. I drove by there this morning, and the sign says there are 590,000 square feet under one roof, available immediately.

This general body style of loco was in production at the plant right up to the end. A lot of these locos left the plant on a flat car, having been built with a non-standard (in North America anyway) wheel gauge. They were test run on the plant track on temporary trucks, and then switched to the narrow trucks before shipping.
531) Message boards : Politics : Canada offers to bring water to 3rd world! (Message 1554473)
Posted 10 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, even Amur'ca realizes this, and is implementing a logical rational mix of socialism and capitalism, in some areas. Get used to it.
So no water for the Yazidis only political posturing in Detroit?


The Canadian position is quite clear. The US is bombing Iraq again, are you suggesting that is a better solution?
532) Message boards : Politics : Canada offers to bring water to 3rd world! (Message 1554465)
Posted 10 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The answer to all these questions in the 21st century is a balanced mix of classical free enterprise and (don't look Amur'cans) socialism. That is what Es and I are saying. Yes, pay what you can, through taxes and water bills based on usage (that handles your rich guy with a swimming pool quite nicely). If an individual can't pay, socialism says their neighbours will help them. If a corporation can't pay, capitalism says time for the aforementioned corporation to go. Corporations are like street cars, there will be another one along in a few minutes.

Yes, even Amur'ca realizes this, and is implementing a logical rational mix of socialism and capitalism, in some areas. Get used to it.
533) Message boards : Politics : Canada offers to bring water to 3rd world! (Message 1554359)
Posted 9 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Es and I are saying much the same thing. Again, I don't see your point.
534) Message boards : Politics : Canada offers to bring water to 3rd world! (Message 1553999)
Posted 8 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Water ATMs bring clean water to Delhi. The government is charging to use a drinking fountain. Where is the outrage, where is the UN, where is Canada?


My government charges me for clean drinking water. I pay taxes and a water bill. I have no problem paying for services received.
535) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1551867)
Posted 3 Aug 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Didn't the ancient Romans use something like these to dry off after a bath?
536) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1543610)
Posted 18 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Looking at the signs, it is electrically powered, it chops or grinds something, and it is intended for sale in Canada (and maybe the US as well). Food prep of some kind?
537) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1543222)
Posted 17 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Meat grinder.
538) Message boards : Politics : Canada offers to bring water to 3rd world! (Message 1542052)
Posted 15 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Tell that to the fat cats pulling in one million dollars a year running the Windsor water company.


You obviously didn't read, or couldn't understand, the link I posted about Enwin. Those million dollar salaries are paid by the owners of Enwin - the people of Windsor. They pay this because you get what you pay for when it comes to hiring administrators. We call this free market. I though you yanks understood that. If the people of Windsor don't like this, they can vote in new management (the Chairman of the Enwin management board is always, by law, the mayor of Windsor).

Don't take my word about whether or not this works. Just look at how long the current mayor of Windsor has been in office (11 years so far and counting), or look at Enwin's credit rating (Standard and Poors recently gave them an A).
539) Message boards : Politics : Canada offers to bring water to 3rd world! (Message 1542045)
Posted 15 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Drill a freaking well then. Problem freaking solved.


Until the fat cat industry next door pollutes your ground water. Then you will be screaming for the government and the courts to do something.
540) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1541577)
Posted 14 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For measuring and possibly marking a work piece?
541) Message boards : Politics : Canada offers to bring water to 3rd world! (Message 1541261)
Posted 14 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Detroiters Put Bodies on the Line to Stop Privatization of Their Water
Remove the log from your own eye before you attempt to remove the speck from mine.
Enwin is the PRIVATE holding company for all utilities in Windsor.


Again, weak on facts, or just a troll? Take a look at the org chart to see who owns Enwin.

This is what we call a Crown Corporation. Yes, it is a for-profit business, but the owners are the citizens of Canada. The final management decisions, in this case, are made by Windsor City Council.
542) Message boards : Politics : Canada offers to bring water to 3rd world! (Message 1540538)
Posted 12 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Some background info for the troll/idiot, from Wikipedia:

"The Europeans also suppressed use of indigenous American languages, establishing their own languages for official communications, destroying texts in other languages, and insisting that indigenous people learn European languages in schools."

A very few documents survived, some are on display at the Glen Bow Museum in Calgary:


Hamilton, Ontario has not contained a car factory since the 1940s. They used to make a lot of steel for Detroit, as well as Windsor and Oshawa (the real Detroits of Canada), but those mills are closing.

I'm still left wondering if you really care about facts.
543) Message boards : Politics : Canada offers to bring water to 3rd world! (Message 1540418)
Posted 12 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There you go again; the "first nation" didn't have written laws. They didn't have anything written.


Again the question arises: a troll, or just an idiot? The North American natives had several written languages. Most of it was destroyed by the Christian missionaries, as the "work of the devil".
544) Message boards : Politics : More on how Neo-Darwinism has it wrong again... (Message 1538825)
Posted 10 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Does your Canadian education also talk about how Britain led the Abolitionist movement? Just curious.

I also know in the UK we were taught about how Canada helped slaves to escape to freedom via the underground railroad.


Going from memory (which is risky at my age) we were taught that the Abolitionist movement was started by British individuals and what we would today call NGOs, and resisted by the British government for some time. The Churches quickly caught on to the movement. (desperate attempt to stay on topic.) Similar case in British North America, before it became Canada.

Uncle Tom's Cabin, the real one, is about an hour's drive from my house. The British land registries for my county show free black land owners arriving in the 1790s, escaped from the rebellion down south. Guess which side they fought for in 1812?

Unfortunately, those same registries don't show the native people all this land was stolen from. Natives appear in the registry after the War of 1812, and the filed claims are still disputed in court today. As you said Es, we all have history to be ashamed of.
545) Message boards : Politics : More on how Neo-Darwinism has it wrong again... (Message 1538817)
Posted 10 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Even school kids in England know the full history of the US slave trade,
Point of order; the US of A wasn't even a thought when the British brought slaves to the new world. If you think the US started the slave trade I must question the British education system.

History in 1807 the US barred the British from bringing more slaves to the US.


I wonder if you are a troll, or just an illiterate buffoon. Nobody (but you) mentioned the US starting the slave trade. I think it goes back well before there was a Britain as well, but that is not relevant. I have to assume you post only to annoy, or you post from a position of grand ignorance.

BTW, based on my Canadian grade school education, I got Es' inference.
546) Message boards : Politics : Corporations are people? (Message 1537983)
Posted 8 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I see what the problem is here. Thank the designer I live in the US of A.



You really are a chauvinist, aren't you;) (correct me if I'm wrong)


Actually Julie, he is a troll. He will support any point of view that will annoy other posters. Don't take him too seriously.
547) Message boards : Politics : Harken! Awaken! Shopping, commute, and religion reborn! (Message 1537977)
Posted 8 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Really? So the people can't peacefully assemble? That's un-American.


Peaceful assembly is fine. Blocking the public thoroughfare is not. Vexatious soliciting is a crime in many countries. An over eager Witness has no more right to interfere with my free movement and peace of mind than any other salesman.
548) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1537409)
Posted 7 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Industrial strength can opener?
549) Message boards : Politics : More on how Neo-Darwinism has it wrong again... (Message 1537044)
Posted 7 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If I'm following this, Intelligent Design says "Rather than try to understand where we came from, we will attribute it all to something/someone that we can not, by definition, understand."

Well, I guess that is easier than trying to understand it. Not good enough for me though. I will continue to try to understand it all.

Intelligent Design might work as a hypothesis if we could discuss - and experimentally prove - where the designer came from. Did he/it evolve, or what?
550) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How old is your wallet? (Message 1536638)
Posted 6 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I average around 10 years per wallet. They could last longer, but I have a wife and daughter who sometimes think I need a new one for Christmas or birthday or whatever.

Now be honest, how old is your oldest pair of socks or underwear?
551) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Football season (not soccer) (Message 1536231)
Posted 4 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The real football season (not soccer and not NFL) started on 26 June. The Esks dumped the Lions, 27 to 20.
552) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Eric (Message 1535788)
Posted 4 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And do you know how he is celebrating his birthday right now? He got up at dawn and left the house around 6-ish to go get one of our cars serviced!!!

That man simply does not know how to take a day off!!!


Angela, for many men that IS a celebration.

Happy birthday Eric, and thanks for all the work units.
553) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1535785)
Posted 4 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Snow ball mold?
554) Message boards : Politics : Canada offers to bring water to 3rd world! (Message 1535783)
Posted 4 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why doesn't your Queen annex Detroit and show US how to bring light to the darkness? Funny I don't see those people swimming over to Windsor where I'm sure they will be welcome with open arms.


Because they don't have to swim, you silly troll. Americans are quick to point out how porous the US-Canada border is - that works both ways. Canada has been built on waves of immigrants escaping terrible living conditions at home. The US is just the next in line. Started during the Viet Nam War, and really picked up in 2008.

Of course, not all Americans are coming. Just your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Re annexing of Detroit - we covered that previously. Your debt situation makes that highly unlikely.
555) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1535709)
Posted 3 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Or a mold for casting ball shot.
556) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1535708)
Posted 3 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used by a potter while turning clay, to remove material?
557) Message boards : Politics : Corporations are people? (Message 1535180)
Posted 3 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Do you believe a Roman Catholic Doctor should be forced to give an abortion (where the life of the woman is not involved). Or forced to give up the Profession, if he/she refuses?


This is only very loosely related to the original question. Neither of the two choices you offer are correct in any sense. The answer would of course be that the Doctor can do what they like, PROVIDING THE WOMAN HAS ACCESS TO ALL NECESSARY HEALTH CARE (i.e. from another doctor). Big difference to the Hobby Lobby question.
558) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1535173)
Posted 3 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Should have read all the replies before replying to David. It is indeed a runway friction measurement tool.

Chandorchasma has it! Winner! PM sent.

I think the new rules say you get to accept the win, or throw it up for grabs.
559) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #7 (Message 1535137)
Posted 2 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Sometimes I also have to consider whether I'll be available to run the thread while it's mine. For example, if I'm right on my current guess, I'll have to either find something easy or let someone else do it because I expect to be busy tomorrow and even busier Friday and Saturday. It wouldn't be fair to everyone else for me to post something and then not be here to say whether the guesses are correct.


My experience is similar David, and has held me back sometimes from taking a guess. I think people just have to be patient, and realize some of us have a life away from the computer. I don't think the world would end if the winner takes a day or three to post a new picture, or to reply to guesses.
560) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1535134)
Posted 2 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Something to do with towing luggage carts?


It is towed (next clue), but nothing to do with luggage carts.
561) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1535121)
Posted 2 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Not used with a jetway. But more likely to be used at an airport big enough to have a jetway. (Your next clue.)
562) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1534944)
Posted 2 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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An aircraft taxiing tow bar?


Nope.
563) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1534846)
Posted 2 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Bernie is very very warm.
564) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1534829)
Posted 2 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Not a stump grinder.

Not a jack.

Not made for use on roads. (Big hint.)

Thanks Wiggo, what did you change to make it work?
565) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1534657)
Posted 2 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Okay, lets broaden our definition of tool. I us one like this at work, from time to time. I've edited out the brand names.

tool by wtbalance, on Flickr
566) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1534644)
Posted 2 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Measures run out on something turning. Maybe on a bicycle wheel?
567) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Canada Day eh? (Message 1534588)
Posted 1 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Spent a very interesting hour in the local Anglican cathedral today, for a Canada Day concert and singalong. They were really playing to their audience. Along with several Canadian folk songs re-arranged for organ, or piano and harp, we got Jerusalem and The Maple Leaf Forever, and then closed with Pomp and Circumstance on the organ. Nearly blew the roof off.

You non-Canadians may not appreciate this subtly, but the audience actually stood to sing The Maple Leaf Forever. My wife, of Dutch ancestry, was horrified.

For you Yanks, this is kind of the Canuck equivalent of flying the Confederate flag. London is very Anglo.
568) Message boards : Politics : MH370 Missing (Message 1534443)
Posted 1 Jul 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Gotta go with Bob on this one. There are large chunks of the Indian Ocean not covered by any radar. Those areas are far enough away from any coast line that any surviving wreckage would probably break up and sink before reaching the coast. Heck, there might be bits of wreckage still floating out there, unseen by human eyes. Only a small portion of the Indian Ocean has been searched in detail so far.

The ELT probably was activated, the black box pingers probably were activated, and all ran out of batteries before any human got close enough to detect their signals.

Any deserted island big enough to land this airplane has been covered by satellite imaging several times since the accident. One government might hide their images, but you can't hide all of the images all of the time. This plane is gone, most likely on the floor of the ocean. The big question, why, remains.
569) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Doctor Will be Back ... (Message 1533778)
Posted 29 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Yes but ...

What about the copy of the doctor in the parallel universe? What about the Tardis getting involved in a few re-generations? What about The Doctor-Donna? All rules have been broken, so anything goes at this point.
570) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Doctor Will be Back ... (Message 1533644)
Posted 29 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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IIRC, the limit of 10 re-generations was for a "normal" Time Lord, living on Galafry. Our Doctor is anything but normal. The last 40 years or so are just dripping with potential loopholes.
571) Message boards : Politics : Political typology quiz (Message 1533299)
Posted 28 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Two observations Es:

1. Most Americans think they are the world, and that their point of view represents the whole planet. This is how they can call their baseball championship "the World Series" with a straight face.

2. We really shouldn't be feeding the trolls.
572) Message boards : Politics : First Scientific Proof Of God Found (Message 1533294)
Posted 28 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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...

... And Bill Walker, your response, "garbage". How very scientific! Great analysis, good scientific breakdown of your opinion.


You provided "scientific" research in the fields of biology and linguistics from an institute founded to work in the fields of "automotive, diesel, collision refinishing, motorcycle, marine technology, as well as construction trades" (from wikipedia). Garbage in, garbage out.
573) Message boards : Politics : Political typology quiz (Message 1533251)
Posted 28 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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This is clearly biased towards US politics, and further biased towards "liberals are bad", as defined in US politics. It has no relevance for the majority of the world's population.
574) Message boards : Politics : First Scientific Proof Of God Found (Message 1533249)
Posted 28 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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I know why this thread is not in science. Because it contains no real science. Why is it in politics? Are we invited to offer political comments on this garbage? If so, my comment follows:

This is garbage.
575) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1532081)
Posted 25 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Both are very regular events. You don't have to go to the third world to find planes landing at the wrong airport. The important message in both those stories is that nobody and nothing was hurt. They erred, but on the side of safety.

Maybe we need a thread about "transportation inconvenience". I could tell you so many stories....
576) Message boards : Politics : MH370 Missing (Message 1531715)
Posted 24 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Some truth in that Bob, but one of the main reasons for any accident investigation is to understand what happened, so we can try to prevent it from repeating.
577) Message boards : Politics : Another conspiracy theory (Message 1530576)
Posted 21 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Yes superchargers and turbochargers were very common in WW2 aircraft. As Rob said, there are designed for lower pressures than an air cycle ac needs. Typical turbos put out 25 to 50 psi (pounds per square inch), the air cycle acs I'm familiar with need 100 to 200 psi. Maybe you could get this from a turbocharger, but that doesn't mean it would be an improvement over all the other alternatives.

Two general comments about all these automotive conspiracy theories, having spent a few decades working with big global manufacturers:

I don't see these theories coming from industry insiders. From what I have seen of the management of car companies over the last few decades, these people are totally interested in profits, and could care less about what they sell us to make those profits. They have no "vested interest" in continuing to sell us the same cars. If they think they could make more money selling us cars that run on water (or peanut butter), they would retool all their plants for this as fast as they could borrow the money. And the big banks love to lend money to big companies with a solid plan. So, if we don't see cars running on water, that tells me the car manufacturers think people won't buy them. It isn't because of some secret cabal hiding the patents.

And about patents: You get a patent because your idea is new, not because your idea is good. There are lots and lots of patents for things that actually don't work at all. The car manufacturers will only be interested in patents that can make them money.
578) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1530430)
Posted 21 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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I dimly recall some sort of viscosity test where you poured the tested substance on to a titled surface and then timed it running down. Or something like that.

Since we have not had a judges' ruling on two questions, my other theory is that it is some sort of work stand. You put whatever on it while you do something or the other to it.
579) Message boards : Politics : Another conspiracy theory (Message 1530324)
Posted 20 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Air cycle air conditioners are very common on turbine powered aircraft, where you have a handy source of compressed air at the engine. They are cheap to build and light, but they do burn extra fuel to make the compressed air, and may limit the maximum engine power on hot days. Anyone old enough to remember the Boeing 727 may remember uncomfortable cabins during takeoffs at small airport on hot days. They had to turn off the a/c to get up in the air.

Mr. Edward's system had to get compressed air from somewhere, maybe the total system cost couldn't compete with traditional systems.
580) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time V4 (Message 1530089)
Posted 20 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Tilt table used to calibrate gyroscopic instruments?
581) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1529426)
Posted 18 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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John is right. That is what I get for doing math in my head. The point still remains: in order for air to air radar to be useful, very high radar powers are needed, in order detect small targets at useful ranges. That results in high weight, high cost, and health hazards.
582) Message boards : Politics : More on how Neo-Darwinism has it wrong again... (Message 1528770)
Posted 16 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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BTW, hexadecimal, base 16, is also a human construct. Which proves.....
583) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1528613)
Posted 16 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Now you are getting into my professional field. Let me offer a few comments.

The problem in Austria appears to be with a loss of transponder info in the ground station. There are a number of possible causes of this, both in the ground stations and in the transmission of the transponder info, but it should be remembered that there are other ways of separating traffic that remain effective:

1. "Block airspace" reserves a volume of airspace for each plane, based on its departure time and assumed speed and directions. Flight plans are not allowed that would result in blocks overlapping. These blocks would be updated over the span of a flight, based on radar data or information transmitted from the aircraft, such as when an aircraft descends and starts a landing approach for example.

2. TCAS, as an earlier poster noted, uses transponder info transmitted from each aircraft to detect upcoming collisions, and calculate avoidance maneuvers and alert the aircrew as required. No involvement from any ground station is required.

All this explains why the Austrian official said no aircraft were ever at risk.

About air to air radar, getting useful information from this requires very large and powerful (and therefore expensive) radars, and well trained aircrew. The required radar power actually becomes a health hazard to those outside the aircraft, leading to detailed operating procedures at military airports to prevent frying your ground crew. Imagine an airliner approaching the gate, having forgot to switch off the air to air mode! TCAS provides the same level of protection, with very little extra gear or extra training and without the health hazards.

Chris, your example of large ships in the Channel requires much less radar energy and sophistication for three main reasons. The targets are really big, they move slowly, and the problem is 2D (all the ships remain on the surface of the Channel). Detecting the other target at 2 miles range gives you lots of time to react. Two airliners in a head on approach at cruising speed would collide less than one minute after detecting each other at a 2 mile range. In that few seconds you have to determine if the 3D flight paths will cross (much number crunching, requiring multiple sets of data on relative locations and how they are changing over time), and then select and implement a corrective action (again, more number crunching, plus human reaction time). As a result, radars on commercial aircraft are useful for seeing weather, and maybe for ground mapping for navigation, but are not designed to be useful in detecting airborne targets.

Obviously, there are still possible flaws and mistakes we need to worry about, but a few minutes drop out in a European ground station doesn't worry me too much. Here is some of what does worry me when flying on airlines (nervous fliers may skip over this bit.)

TCAS relies on each aircraft having a functioning transponder. Over Europe and North America and some other parts of the world this does not worry me at all. Enforcement is very strict. Where it does worry me is over other parts of the world, where enforcement may be lax and equipment may be older and less well maintained, or near conflict zones, where high performance aircraft may be operating without transponders, or with misleading transponders, for tactical reasons. I will not be flying near the Ukraine/Russia border in the near future.

The various versions of block airspace require aircrews and ground staff to follow procedures. Again, this is very likely over some places like Europe and North America, and less likely in other places. I am very careful flying in some parts of the world, and will only fly on reliable airlines in these regions.
584) Message boards : Politics : Should Scotland leave the UK? (Message 1527580)
Posted 13 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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In Canada and other countries "nuclear free" means no nukes based in your nation, and no involvement of your military in nuclear weapons deployment and use. It does not mean your civilian government has to disavow the NATO first strike policy. I think an independent Scotland could choose this path.

It does the leave the question of what to do with the nuclear armed subs currently based in Scotland.

It has recently come out that during our last Quebec referendum the Canadian military had a secret plan to quickly move key hardware and staff out of Quebec if the vote had been yes, before the new Quebec government started laying ownership claims. I wonder if the UK has something similar in mind?
585) Message boards : Politics : Should Scotland leave the UK? (Message 1526930)
Posted 11 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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But they say an independent Scotland would be nuclear free.

And they also say they want to be a member of NATO.

Those statements are mutually incompatible.


Canada is nuclear free, and a member of NATO. I suspect some other countries are in a similar position.
586) Message boards : Politics : Double standard on violence (Message 1526929)
Posted 11 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Note: If anyone now mentions the NRA, George Soros, the Koch Brother's, et al, regarding Mental Health problems...


Sure. If we don't talk about it maybe it will go away.

The issue being discussed was mental health policies and how they impact violence on the street. Crazy people are allowed to roam the streets, for financial reasons, and they have access to weapons because of the political interference of special interest groups. I see a connection, don't you?
587) Message boards : Politics : Double standard on violence (Message 1526875)
Posted 11 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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And the real problem is these people don't vote, or there are not enough of them to make a difference if they do vote. Hence, they get ignored. When one of them goes nuts and kills a few people, it doesn't reflect on the government budgets. So, it it cheaper to let them wander the streets and occasionally go nuts. Harsh but true.

The only solution is for the majority of voters to unite and demand action, even if it costs a bit. Then we run into the problem of special interest groups (like the NRA) distorting the democratic process. So, step one is for the majority of voters to unite and squash the special interest groups.

Point for further discussion - if the NRA's interference with the democratic process leads to violence against citizens, does that make them a terrorist organization?
588) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where are the counting threads? (Message 1526845)
Posted 11 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Of course, that is just ONE man's opinion.

589) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sir! (Message 1526470)
Posted 10 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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That is a bit familiar Chris. I believe the proper initial form of address would be "Happy birthday your royal highness".
590) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's D-Day! Have We Finally Forgotten? (Message 1525749)
Posted 8 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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D Day lives on in the media, but big chunks of history are slipping from memory. My father was a D Day Dodger.
591) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's all relative. (Message 1525748)
Posted 8 Jun 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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My family, mostly.

Despite my last name, I am NOT related to 99.9999+% of the Walkers in Canada. Great Grandpa came from the UK in 1902, and had one son (Grandpa Clifford). Clifford had two sons, those two sons have 6 surviving children in Canada, including two males. So, its me and cousin Jim. The rest are, IMHO, Walker wannabes.

On my mother's side I am related to most of Saskatchewan, and large chunks of Manitoba and Alberta. But nobody remotely famous.
592) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1522886)
Posted 31 May 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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As the makers of Bear Whiz Beer say, "Its in the water. That's why its yellow."
593) Message boards : Politics : Double standard on violence (Message 1522885)
Posted 31 May 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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If you look, you'll see a correlation between where liberals have taken over government and where the worst gun violence is.


So, what you are saying is that the US is more liberal than Canada? Or Sweden? Or Denmark?

Maybe don't think in terms of "liberal" vs "conservative". Think American vs not-American. Some interesting patterns show up then.
594) Message boards : Politics : Double standard on violence (Message 1521597)
Posted 27 May 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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We have lots of people with autism in Canada. They don't usually shoot people because they can't regularly get guns. You are right, it is time for America to do what must be done.
595) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v3 (Message 1521003)
Posted 25 May 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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The geometry of the chain and the pivot point tells me the jaws clamp tighter the heavier the load is when lifted by the chain. I have seen similar devices used to hoist large steel plates, but the jaws were a slightly different shape. Maybe this lifts pipe?
596) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v3 (Message 1520851)
Posted 25 May 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Used for lifting something?
597) Message boards : Politics : MH370 Missing (Message 1520006)
Posted 22 May 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Australia? How is any of this possibly their fault?
598) Message boards : Politics : Why Canada and America Should Become One Country by DIANE FRANCIS (Message 1520005)
Posted 22 May 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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From friends who have had the experience, "overnight lodging" consists of a very uncomfortable chair in the locked waiting room at the border office. Apparently this is free.

By the way, this foolishness works in both directions. Years ago a work mate of mine was in Canada from the UK on a six month work visa. He went to upstate New York for a day's skiing, and got into the US on his UK passport plus a US day visa. He was refused entry into Canada that evening, because his work permit was only valid for entry from the UK. He got a special US visa which permitted him to return to NYC, fly to the UK, and then fly to Toronto. A very expensive day of skiing.
599) Message boards : Politics : Why Canada and America Should Become One Country by DIANE FRANCIS (Message 1519549)
Posted 22 May 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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The Yanks who wind up here without a passport can usually get back into the US, after a loooong questioning and waiting in a US Customs office till verification is obtained through other sources. If you show up at the border late on a Friday you may wait till Monday for the paperwork to be processed.
600) Message boards : Politics : Why Canada and America Should Become One Country by DIANE FRANCIS (Message 1519130)
Posted 21 May 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Didn't some of the 9/11 hijackers have US driver's licences? I used to have a California driver's licence. And a cheap suit.
601) Message boards : Politics : MH370 Missing (Message 1519128)
Posted 21 May 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Can you prove someone is lying? Aristotle said (and I'm paraphrasing) never falsely attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by ignorance.

In other words, maybe somebody screwed up. No lies required.
602) Message boards : Politics : Why Canada and America Should Become One Country by DIANE FRANCIS (Message 1517938)
Posted 18 May 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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It's not the guy in the toque they need to worry about...

603) Message boards : Politics : Why Canada and America Should Become One Country by DIANE FRANCIS (Message 1517815)
Posted 18 May 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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The ONLY way that Canada and the US could currently merge would be a junk bond style takeover of the US national debt by a functional, fiscally viable Canada. We would be insane to assume any part of the US debt under any other circumstances. Control in the future merged nation would have to be apportioned by net value prior to the takeover (assets minus debt).

We could then start to sell off assets to get the debt down to a manageable level. Sell Hawaii to Japan, Alaska to Russia, etc.
604) Message boards : Politics : Cycles (Message 1515300)
Posted 13 May 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Isn't that why most scientists refer to global warming as a theory? A theory can be proven right or wrong, but until it is, it is really just an educated guess.


Most scientists refer to gravity as a theory as well.
605) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News IV (Message 1514516)
Posted 10 May 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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he he he binary is DAZZLING! :) Thanks for the traditional format Michael :)

I'm not so sure about binary: sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't.


So, you are of 10 minds about it?
606) Message boards : Politics : What a screwed up world we live in. (Message 1513901)
Posted 9 May 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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"French loyalty"? To "NATO"? Welcome to the 1960s. De Gaulle pulled the French out of NATO, and ordered NATO out of France, in 1966. They came back, sort of, in 2009 but their heart is obviously not in it.
607) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1510433)
Posted 30 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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The air compressor explains why they have a working horn without smoke or steam coming out of the stack.

I think David is right about the speed limit. If they removed parts of the rotating or sliding masses, the machine will shake like crazy at higher speeds. Steam engines were notoriously hard to balance, each one being slightly different than the next, even if the design was the same.
608) Message boards : Politics : MH370 Missing (Message 1510430)
Posted 30 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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No. I'm saying sonar will find a single large moving noisy object submerged a few dozen feet much much faster than it will find scattered bits of wreckage at depths of thousands of feet. Sonar was used most effectively close to convoys, since that is where the U-boats wanted to be. And sonar was only one tool used to find U-boats. Radar and eyeballs found surfaced subs at longer ranges, and passive sonar picked up turning propellers at long ranges. MH370 is probably very quiet right now.

The towed unmanned sonar vehicles being used can sweep a band of less than one mile width if you want enough resolution to tell a big rock from a piece of airplane. The chunk of ocean being searched is somewhat larger than Europe. Picture towing a vehicle at boat speed (maybe 15 mph) on one mile or less swaths and covering all of Europe. It would take a bit of time.

If the airplane hit the water at high speed, there won't even be pieces as big as large rocks. You then need to lower the swath width to get better resolution, and the time to cover the area goes up. Remember, they found floating wreckage and strong pings from the Air France Airbus in the South Atlantic in short order, and then took another two years to actually locate and recover the black boxes. Here we have no confirmed wreckage, and questionable pings, so the search area is huge.
609) Message boards : Politics : MH370 Missing (Message 1510291)
Posted 30 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Sure, as long as the U-boats maneuvered near other ships and were just below the surface, they were easy pickings. MH370 probably lies in pieces under a few miles of water and hasn't moved for weeks. Apples and oranges.
610) Message boards : Politics : MH370 Missing (Message 1510282)
Posted 30 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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What beggars belief for me is the fact that between 1942-45, allied ships were able to track & destroy enemy subs with the technology of the day.

69 years later, they cannot find an aircraft which is static?


Apples and oranges.

A sub moving and making noise a few dozen feet below the surface is very different from a stationary wreck possibly under thousands of feet of water and possibly spread out over several miles. Also keep in mind that the sub moved in a predictable manner, i.e. towards its targets, and spent roughly 50% of its time on the surface.

Plus, the Canadian Navy operated 100+ ships in their part of the North Atlantic, plus several hundred RCAF aircraft, and averaged less than one sub sighting per month. Until the last few months of the war ALL the aircraft sightings were of surfaced subs.
611) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v3 (Message 1510115)
Posted 30 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Just as an aside, I was thinking it resembled a certain Swedish made device that Austin Powers reclaimed after being thawed out...
612) Message boards : Politics : Double standard on violence (Message 1509969)
Posted 29 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Look, if you want to make the argument that an armed citizenry is somehow going to protect you from a tyrannical government, you will need to provide evidence to support that argument.


1776

1814?


Kent State, 4 May 1970?

Come on, one of you Yanks suggest that that would have turned out better if all the university students had been armed.
613) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1509726)
Posted 29 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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That is a whole lot of steam engine.
614) Message boards : Politics : Double standard on violence (Message 1509363)
Posted 28 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Mental health is a completed issue, and there is some truth in James' comments. But not all nut bars are alike, or need to be treated alike. Sadly, western governments have reduced expenditures in this area in the last few decades, in the name of balanced budgets. The reality is that the effected people are a small percentage of the population, and don't represent a significant voting block. The chickens are coming home to roost, and some of them are armed.
615) Message boards : Politics : Double standard on violence (Message 1509298)
Posted 27 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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The problem with Freedom of Speech is that EVERYONE can say whatever they want. Of course, sometimes that speech comes with consequences. The same goes for those with guns that would us them to harm others unprovoked.

Such is the burden of freedom.


The burden resulting from some nut job using a gun is considerably different from the burden resulting from some nut job speaking their mind. What about my freedom to walk down the road without being shot by the aforementioned nut job?
616) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Parenthood...the facts (Message 1507869)
Posted 24 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Normal is over rated.
617) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A bit of Heritage (Message 1507003)
Posted 21 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Our Dorchester is in the south-east corner of our Middlesex. Our Thames Centre is nearby, and was created in 2001 by merging North Dorchester and West Nissouri.

Other town names in Ontario you might recognize are Scarborough, York, Newcastle, Whitby, Chatham, Teeswater, Waterford, and Stratford. Over the last few years London has absorbed several small towns, including Hyde Park and Lambeth. There are at least three Dalhousies in Canada, each with its local pronunciation. The one in Ontario is pronounced Da-LOO-see. Just to keep everybody happy, we also have a Hamburg, a Paris, and a Zurich.
618) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A bit of Heritage (Message 1506959)
Posted 21 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Counties (and its many variations like Rural Municipalities) continue to slowly disappear here in Canuckistan, as they are merged for economics and efficiencies. Sometimes the names live on in hyphenated form, sometimes they just go. The post office does continue to deliver to old county style addresses, but the US made maps in most automotive GPS devices do not recognize this. Same issue here in Ontario with provincial highways that were downloaded to the municipalities about fifteen years ago. They all got new numbers, but the post office recognizes, and the locals usually use, the old provincial number, but you won't find it on your GPS. This can make it very hard to find a rural address. Often the people living there don't know their address no longer "officially" exists.

The mergers, by the way, are often met with stiff resistance from the locals. It got to the point in the last few decades of the last century that the county merger process had stopped completely in Saskatchewan, even as farms got bigger and small towns shut down. In about 1985 there were several counties in that province with less than 50 voters on their poll list. Needless to say, not a lot of improvements could be made with a tax base like that. That may be why the process seems to have restarted recently.

By the way, back in the day the size of a county in Canada was set such that a resident in the far reaches could harness their horse at dawn, get into the county seat and do some business, and then get the horse and wagon back in the barn by nightfall. Automobiles and paved roads changed that calculation considerably.

(Sent from the heart of (for now) Middlesex County, on the banks of the Thames.)
619) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1505203)
Posted 17 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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One man's pet (or flower) is another man's pest (or weed). It all depends on your point of view. I love to watch the raccoons playing in my back yard. I deeply, deeply hated the raccoon that briefly moved into my attic a few years back.
620) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A bit difficult language, perhaps (Message 1503290)
Posted 12 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Where we really get our beer.
621) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A bit difficult language, perhaps (Message 1503239)
Posted 12 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
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Chris, I take it your source is not Canadian. Everybody knows it came from "hose bag", which came from ... well, I don't want us to get moderated.

Back when I first started hearing "hoser" most ice rinks didn't involve a hose. That was just for the rich kids in big cities.
622) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1503230)
Posted 12 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Most liquid hydrocarbons need to be vapourized before they burn. As Donald pointed out, one good way to vapourize them is a high speed crash. The resulting cloud of vapour still needs to come into contact with something very hot (like a really hot exhaust pipe) before it ignites, so vehicle fires resulting from crashes are relatively rare. Most road vehicle fires are electrical in origin, second leading cause is a ruptured fuel line on a running engine (like Mark's example).
623) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1503151)
Posted 12 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Diesel is harder to ignite than pump gas, but not impossible. Once you get it vaporized, it burns very nicely.
624) Message boards : Politics : Why Canada and America Should Become One Country by DIANE FRANCIS (Message 1503149)
Posted 12 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry America, we are not currently in a position to accept that many prisoners.

For non-Canadian readers, you should realize that the paper Byron quoted in the original post is commonly known in some Great White North circles as the Nazi Post.
625) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A bit difficult language, perhaps (Message 1503011)
Posted 12 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
TAKE OFF EH.
626) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A bit difficult language, perhaps (Message 1502864)
Posted 11 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
@ES99 -
Just try getting an American to say Worcestershire sauce.

they would say Brown sauce. Pronounced brow-n not br-own.

In Canada they don't seem to know what brown sauce is. They have HP sauce.


Depends on the Canadian. My wife usually has at least two types of Worcestershire in the cupboard, plus HP. We also have Katsup, from Holland, which is nothing like ketchup. And Maggi, from Holland as well. I know this is a brand name for a lot of stuff, but we use the term in our house to refer to their brown sauce, which is closer to soya sauce then to HP. Mr dearly departed mother-in-law would sometimes refer to soya sauce as "that Chinese Maggi".

All this shows the beauty and at the same time the difficulty in English. We freely adapt terms from other languages, along with their spellings and pronunciations. Makes for a colourful, but confusing, language.

It also means that all the local dialects of English are quite legitimate, eh.

Noo doobt aboot it, as Celt would say.
627) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A bit difficult language, perhaps (Message 1502858)
Posted 11 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just try getting an American to say Worcestershire sauce.


I actually do this, every chance I get. It can be great fun, eh.
628) Message boards : Politics : who speaks for planet earth? who speaks for the human species? (Message 1502641)
Posted 11 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A nice thought Byron, but you are wasting your time in this forum. All you will get here (as shown above) is people taking advantage of your thread to advance their own pet theories. They do this here because anyplace else they would have long ago been told to shut up, pack up, and move on.

I'm beginning to see why Chris left.
629) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A bit difficult language, perhaps (Message 1502415)
Posted 10 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Now there is a proper Englishman, using proper pronunciation, eh Chris?

Interesting rhymes:

Hallelujah / peculiar

Dough / know / no

and so on ...
630) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v3 (Message 1502412)
Posted 10 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For holding chalk?
631) Message boards : Politics : Crimea (Message 1501369)
Posted 8 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Raistmer, how many US (or NATO) troops are in Libya today, or even close to Libya today? How many Russian troops are in Crimea today, and how many are lined up on the Ukraine border?

Two different patterns, I think.
632) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #55 (Message 1499254)
Posted 3 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why does the photographer keep pointing up?
633) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A bit difficult language, perhaps (Message 1499252)
Posted 3 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In English, we park on driveways and drive on parkways.
634) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favorite commercials from years past (Message 1499121)
Posted 3 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I mostly remember catchy songs from old commercials. I still wonder where the yellow went.

And here is one for anyone watching TV in Ontario back in the 60s. What were they singing about when they told you to have "one at noon, one at night, and one along the way"?


MILK


For what? FOR MILK! (Chorus of animated cows then sings "Drink three glasses every day!")

Did this ad run in the US as well?
635) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favorite commercials from years past (Message 1499092)
Posted 3 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I mostly remember catchy songs from old commercials. I still wonder where the yellow went.

And here is one for anyone watching TV in Ontario back in the 60s. What were they singing about when they told you to have "one at noon, one at night, and one along the way"?
636) Message boards : Cafe SETI : HI to Chris S, celttooth and Jeremy and everyone :) (Message 1499090)
Posted 3 Apr 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hello back at you Dr. CETI.
637) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1494828)
Posted 25 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've finally seen the season's first hummingbird! I knew they were nearby. I put
out two feeders about a week ago.


Whereabouts are you? We are still a month or more away from the first hummingbirds here. Here in the Great White North we did get the first robins last week, and the first song sparrows yesterday and today.
638) Message boards : Politics : For plain silly news (Message 1493505)
Posted 22 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I just find that ridiculous Chris that cops have to have sex with the prostitutes 1st before they can book them for soliciting.

What's the world coming to.

Cheers.


Sounds to me like they have a really good union.
639) Message boards : Politics : The end of civilisation is nigh (Message 1493490)
Posted 22 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, I did some digging and the US has improved teacher requirements since about 1980. Most states now require a bachelor degree, but the "alternative teacher certification" route still exists.

From wikipedia: "Alternatively certified teachers typically possess a bachelor’s degree from an accredited college or university and are completing (or have completed) an alternative certification program while teaching full-time. Other state certification requirements, such as the type of education coursework or the length of practice teaching, may be modified or waived. In the United States, alternative certification is offered in forty-eight states and the District of Columbia."

Note the words "typically", and "may be modified or waived". I know personally grade school teachers in the US, younger than me, who don't have a bachelor's degree. In Canada a teacher needs the following before being certified:

-at least a bachelor's degree in the field they will be teaching in
-at least one year university level work in teaching (this is after the basic B.Sc. or B.A.)
-to pass a written and practical test

I wouldn't consider dollars spent per student as the only way to compare various school systems. Thing like land costs and teacher's wages vary considerably from country to country. Take a look at the 2006 world rankings at http://www.geographic.org/country_ranks/educational_score_performance_country_ranks_2009_oecd.html , which show the US in 27th place in student performance in math (just one example). Countries ahead of the US on the list are the ones stealing our jobs and economy right now: Korea, Japan, most of western Europe,and several emerging eastern European countries.

You also need to look at variations in educational quality within the US. Take a look at http://www.governing.com/gov-data/education-data/state-education-spending-per-pupil-data.html and you will see the spending per student ranges from $19,076 in New York state to $6,200 in Utah. Are these students receiving the same quality of education?

I don't want to just pick on the US here. Some of the same trends are appearing elsewhere. Here in Canada, governments are quick to cut school spending (or at least not keep spending in line with inflation) in order to cut taxes and buy votes. This has been going on long enough to cause major shifts in our higher education student populations. Take a look at the students in any post grad program in a Canadian university and you will see a very large number or foreign students. This is partly due to them being the only ones willing to do the low paid long hours in such a program, and partly due to them being the only one qualified any more. Those degrees in film history and gender studies that the Canadians are getting lead to a very limited number of grad school positions, although they are relatively cheap.

Which brings me back (finally) to the topic of this thread. If the end of civilization is nigh, a big cause of it will be our modern trend of selling our future for short term gains for a small (but powerful) part of the population. If you listen to political discussion in Canada today, an amazing number of people are telling me that is just and proper to decrease the quality of life of a majority of people today and in the future so a small percentage of the population can put a second Mercedes in their driveway.

And finally, I didn't mean to say that MajorKong was a christian fundamentalist, but like so many North Americans you appear to carry the baggage of a Christian style upbringing. Things like objecting to sex education in public schools, plus denying evolution and climate change, all in the face of clear evidence to the contrary, can all be traced to a christian style upbringing, whether that included going to church or not. We may have to add that to the list of causes of the end of civilization.
640) Message boards : Politics : MH370 Missing (Message 1493092)
Posted 22 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If this wreckage is confirmed, then where it is could have been expected, at the end of the "southern arc" given maximum flight time.


Chris, those arcs we see on the various news web sites are the possible locations of the aircraft at the time of the last ACARS transmission. They are not flight paths. Because ACARS is not designed to locate a transmitter, that is the best they can do with the data they have. Pick any point on either of those two arcs, draw a circle of about 2,000 miles radius centred on that point, and those are the possible locations of the aircraft when it ran out of fuel (assuming it flew that long). This is a very big area.
641) Message boards : Politics : The end of civilisation is nigh (Message 1493080)
Posted 22 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm having trouble understanding MajorKong's point. He complains about the quality of US education, then falls back on fundamental Christian "abstinence". We've all seen how well that worked for the Roman Catholic clergy. If the RC Church can't motivate priests to keep their pants on, do you really expect parents to be able to motivate healthy teenage boys? A few hundred thousand years of evolution says otherwise.

Maybe I'm old and cynical, but I think MajorKong is really expressing his dislike of the current US education system by following his preacher's line on sex education. I have to agree with him about their education system (assuming that is his point). It may not be the end of ALL civilization, but I think history will show the downfall of the US civilization was largely the result of their illogical refusal to fund public education, or set minimum performance standards for the system.

Our UK readers may not know that in many US States the only requirements to teach the lower grades are a high school diploma (roughly equivalent to your O standards) and passing an interview.
642) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shannon/kenzieb (Message 1492463)
Posted 21 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Perhaps we can start a thread were people can vouch for those they know to be real with evidence such as you've provided about SciManStev.


But what is reality?
643) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v3 (Message 1492064)
Posted 20 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Are the markings on the inside used to measure volume?
644) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Parenthood...the facts (Message 1491644)
Posted 20 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We went back to the first stinking store and bought the dress.


OMG. We may be married to the same woman.
645) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shannon/kenzieb (Message 1491638)
Posted 20 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In the interests of full disclosure, I wish to state that I really am Bill Walker, and I really am the only legitimate heir to the Romanian throne.

It's the Internet people. Don't believe any of it, without independent confirmation. And certainly don't base any important decisions on it.

If the Internet fools you once, shame on the Internet. If it fools you twice, well, you know... What Bush said. We have all been handed a great learning opportunity.

If any of you really believe laws have been broken, don't whinge about it on the Internet. Nobody in their right minds takes that seriously. Call the police. And tell them the Crown Prince of Romania send you.
646) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky Mountain oysters (Message 1491176)
Posted 19 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I grew up spending a lot of my young life down in the Snowy Mountains and there they were known as Snowy Mountain Sweetbreads.

Cheers.


If you go a little further east in Canada they are known as Prairie Oysters.
647) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1490990)
Posted 19 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Bill this image brings back fond memories
for me from my youth....




105 Flight. Is that Winnipeg or Namao?

All you train guys relax. Beautiful machinery is beautiful machinery.
648) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #55 (Message 1490989)
Posted 19 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
After the rebellion collapsed, R2D2 was lucky to land a job.
649) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky Mountain oysters (Message 1490434)
Posted 18 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
They are very tasty, if cooked right (I grew up in cattle country in western Canada). What I found disturbing was the idea of using this tool to somehow harvest them.
650) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v3 (Message 1490176)
Posted 17 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Scoop or shovel for moving sugar beet or turnips.


Winner! It is a beet shovel but I bet it works with turnips too. It doesn't just move them, it digs them out of the ground.
651) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v3 (Message 1490083)
Posted 17 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've had 2 posts from people with the right answer who don't want to win again, so it can't be that hard.

Luigi and Julie, don't think animal.
652) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v3 (Message 1489930)
Posted 17 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
John - right general idea, but not a barrel. You need to be WAY more specific.

Mark - what a disturbing mental image. No.

Having been raised in Alberta, I am familiar with Rocky Mountain Oysters.
653) Message boards : Politics : The end of civilisation is nigh (Message 1489928)
Posted 17 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
About bloody time.
654) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v3 (Message 1489882)
Posted 16 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Luigi - no.

Chris - yes a farm tool. This one is antique but they are still used. But not for hay.
655) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v3 (Message 1489714)
Posted 16 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, had to dig a bit as all the easy ones have been done. Need the specific name or purpose of this tool.

656) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Vikings (Message 1489314)
Posted 15 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And the idea of taking a broad sword to people who post stupid comments on the Internet has a certain appeal.
657) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v3 (Message 1489313)
Posted 15 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey! A lucky guess!

Heading out on a road trip today, I will try to post something this evening.
658) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v3 (Message 1489093)
Posted 14 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For holding tools as they are sharpened or polished?
659) Message boards : Politics : For plain silly news (Message 1489091)
Posted 14 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Old Liz is my Queen too Chris. By my allowance. BY LAW she has the options of following the Canadian Constitution in Canada affairs, or resigning. She gets to keep her UK gig if she resigns, I believe.

I wish she could give old Stevie boy the heave ho. It is not that easy.

And you may not believe this, but most of my friends and relatives consider me a "staunch monarchist". At least by Canadian standards.
660) Message boards : Politics : For plain silly news (Message 1489013)
Posted 14 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

As we all know Bill was just being mischievous, and of course HM Queen does not do what NZ tells her, she allows NZ to do what they want, within reason, via the Governor-General, who is her official local representative.


Wrong. You said it yourself: "The powers of the Queen and the Governor-General are limited by constitutional constraints". She does what she is told. BY LAW. And the G-G usually does it on her behalf.

Recent example here in Canuckistan: A few years back the PM prorogued Parliament to let some seedy little scandal involving government members blow over. (Without proroguing, shutting down requires agreement from all sitting parties.) The process is - the PM "requests" the G-G to prorogue, then the G-G declares Parliament shut down for x days. The G-G of the day objected to this on moral grounds (as did many Canadians) and sent off to Buckingham Palace for further instructions. She was still waiting for a reply when the PM (and his lawyers) pointed out that BY LAW the G-G's only options were prorogue or resign. (A replacement G-G is named by the PM in the event of resignation, and BY LAW must be accepted by the Crown.) Parliament was shut down, without any peep from old Liz. Or from any of her numerous kin that the UK so kindly keeps fed and watered on our behalf.

If you want any of the Commonwealth countries to drop the Queen in a hurry, just have her try to interfere in local affairs.
661) Message boards : Politics : For plain silly news (Message 1488814)
Posted 14 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Therefore you cannot change your flag or remove the Union Jack part of it, whilst you remain part of the British Commonwealth, with the Queen as your head of state.


Absolutely no connection. New Zealand, like other Commonwealth states, is a sovereign nation. Yes they have a Queen, but she is the NZ Queen (who happens to moonlight as the UK Queen and a few others). She is a constitutional monarch, which means she does what the elected officials of the sovereign nation tell her. Been like that since Runnymede, old chap. Time to catch up.

662) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1488579)
Posted 13 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What were the windows in the front for if it was driven from the cab?


If you mean the little round one on the front, it is called a headlight. ;)

If you mean the two big rectangles above that, they were air inlets for the ejector system, that drew air in the front, mixed it with the smoke and vented steam in the long duct behind, and ejected the mixture out the top of the duct producing thrust. Canada pretty much pioneered this concept, which was later used to cool airplane engines with a mix of ambient air and engine exhaust, while producing thrust. Take a look at the typical Canadian exhaust system for example. The exhaust pipes (4 total) are way bigger than you need for just engine gases, and note the cowling outlet end is sealed, except for these pipes and a small vent on the bottom. It is a mix of exhaust and cooling air coming out those pipes. Also acts as a muffler, and give the Otter a very distinctive sound.

663) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1488576)
Posted 13 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And, as David said, Canada even had fast engines for passengers and they were not black. (And strictly speaking not steam, but still pretty, IMHO.)

664) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1488572)
Posted 13 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Bernie, function IS beauty, to me. But I still have a soft spot for the streamliners: US, European, or even Canadian like this one.

665) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v3 (Message 1487263)
Posted 11 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used for scraping hides.
666) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1486964)
Posted 10 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have always found the Baldwins to look like "real" engines, with bits and pieces hanging off here and there. Like this Mikado.



Maybe this is because the CNR did the same with their house-built engines, which were still in use when I started hanging around the rail yards as a wee lad. Some of the European engines of the same vintage look like toys to me, without all the working stuff out where you can see it.

667) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Travelling in Safety (Message 1486819)
Posted 9 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very possibly a red herring. Stolen passports are used quite often in some parts of the world. We don't hear about it until something like this happens.

People wouldn't steal passports if they didn't have value, and the stolen ones only have value if the purchaser can use them.
668) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v3 (Message 1486462)
Posted 9 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used for making rope?
669) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v3 (Message 1485472)
Posted 6 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Do you sit on a flat car behind the engine and use this tool to move levers and valves in the engine cab? I've seen this done, but don't know the name of the tool.
670) Message boards : Politics : Rant/ Why do replacement items cost so much, etc (Message 1485321)
Posted 6 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Speaking from the point of view of someone who has spent 40 years in product development and testing, I blame a lot of it on short sighted accountants playing to short sighted consumers.

[rant]
Modern western consumers are totally driven by up front price, and nobody knows how to (or cares to) consider life cycle cost. In other words, the consumer wants a cheap kettle, when what they should be asking is what gives me the cheapest pot of tea, averaged over the life of the kettle. The answers to these two questions are usually very different.

When the accountants see people buying more and more of the cheap kettles, they drive down unit costs any way they can. Time and time again I've seen the accountants/managers set arbitrary cost reduction goals, without any concern or understanding of what that does to the product. It is all well and fine to cut the fat in your product cost, but after you have cut the fat, and the annual cost reduction goals keep coming, you have to cut muscle and bone. This has nearly killed the Big Three North American car manufacturers, and allowed the longer thinking Asian manufacturers to steal their lunch.

The modern accountant/manager is trained in modern business schools to consider the quarterly returns, and has absolutely no concept of or concern about product quality or utility, or consumer happiness. The engineers making the product do, and it breaks their hearts to turn out the crap we all buy today. I am so glad to be out of that rat race.
[/rant]

And as for the cost of replacement parts - it all comes down to quantity and convenience. Of course you pay a lot to go pick up one battery, off the shelf, at a local supplier. If you ordered a million batteries at a time, with deliveries spread over several years and your factories located close to the battery suppliers (like an OEM does) it would be a LOT cheaper.
671) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Parenthood...the facts (Message 1484172)
Posted 3 Mar 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sigh... puberty awaits for my oldest, only ten but she's already a teenager, mum!!


Ah yes, I remember when ours were 10, going on 16. Don't worry, another 10 or 15 years and they get over it.
672) Message boards : Politics : Is it just a troll, or something far more sinister? (Message 1482946)
Posted 28 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If some of the idiots posting here are actually government employees we are in worse shape than I thought.
673) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1482940)
Posted 28 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can't think what it is called, but it is used for breaking thumb nails


Close enough, first answer, take it away rob smith.
674) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1482791)
Posted 28 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The "winner in waiting" has resigned. What a waste of electrons. The answer is out there, so the last contest has been declared null and void, IMHO. This is not exactly covered in the rules, but I will assume the contest is still with me, so I will post another picture. Mods jump in and correct me at any time.

Need the name, or a description of the usage.

675) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1482576)
Posted 28 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Message has been sent.
676) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1482287)
Posted 27 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Tried sending a message, but S@H says no such user? Anyway, I'll give him (or her) 48 hours.
677) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1482172)
Posted 27 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Corn Corn Corn Hubba Hubba Hubba (or whatever you call yourself this week) has got it. I thought it would go quick.
678) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1482142)
Posted 27 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not a press.
679) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1482116)
Posted 26 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A punch makes sense. Need the proper name here, or a really good description of what it does. The company logo has been edited out.

680) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1482008)
Posted 26 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A compressed air nail puller? That's new to me.
681) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1481900)
Posted 26 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It's actually the A-10. It is deemed too limited in it's scope of what it can do in missions and our military wants a more agile force that can handle nearly any situation. They intend to have the F-35 replace it as soon as it's ready.

Replacing the A10 with an F35 is like replacing a pile-driver with a sledgehammer!


People who love the A-10 don't understand how guided munitions have completely changed modern close air support. Many of the US close support missions in Afghanistan and Iraq recently have been flown by the B-1. No need to get down and dirty with the troops anymore. The troops aim a laser beam, and the little red spot gets hit by a bomb launched from an airplane miles away.

What the modern battlefield does need is a bomb carrier that can survive in the type of air defence systems the Russians and Chinese are selling to anyone with the cash. That is not an A-10. That is part of the reason A-10s played a very small role over Libya.
682) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1481461)
Posted 24 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used to apply adhesive or lubricant?

The barbed fitting on the bottom of the handle could be for liquid under pressure, or compressed air.
683) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1481048)
Posted 23 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Lemon zester.
684) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti@home beard survey (Message 1480340)
Posted 21 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


where i can see "civilized countries" list? :D


An authoritative list here.
685) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sochi 2014 Winter Olympics (Message 1480339)
Posted 21 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
the NHL has said they will not commit to the Winter Olympics anymore


Well if you look at history you will see that the NHL says that after every
Olympic games. It's called negotiating!


And it has worked very well in recent times!
686) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti@home beard survey (Message 1479961)
Posted 21 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This should be interesting. You should have asked for age information, I see more and more old guys with beards. These are people who wouldn't have dreamed of growing a beard when they were younger.

Hey, I had a beard when I was young too. :-D

Cheers.


Yeah, but I'm talking about people from civilized countries.

ducks and runs
687) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sochi 2014 Winter Olympics (Message 1479960)
Posted 21 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I see that some people are complaining that women's hockey seems to be the same countries over and over. However, men's hockey in the Olympics was the same three countries for 6 Olympics after it started, women's hockey just got a fourth team in the medals (Switzerland) after only 4 or 5 Olympics.

My first thought watching the Swiss women receive their bronze medals was "they all look like they are 14 or 15". This could be a team to watch in the future.

And I agree with Celt Tooth. They have pro players in hockey now, but a lot of the refs are still amateurs.
688) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti@home beard survey (Message 1479955)
Posted 21 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This should be interesting. You should have asked for age information, I see more and more old guys with beards. These are people who wouldn't have dreamed of growing a beard when they were younger.
689) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1479379)
Posted 20 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can we assume the wooden handle is missing off the upper arm?

Is this used to insert an eyelet or tubular rivet of some sort?
690) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1478442)
Posted 17 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris, Canucks blush whenever you say nipple. We call them zerks, which I think is an old brand name.
691) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The joke thread Part 4. (Message 1477744)
Posted 15 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Q: How many hardware engineers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None. That is a product support problem.

Q: How many product support techs does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None. It is all in the manual.

Q: How many tech writers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None. The customer can bloody well figure it out for themselves.
692) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1477721)
Posted 15 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I see it just fine. The holes with the square head screws adjacent to them obviously hold something. Is this tool complete? If you put long flexible rods of some sort in each hole it could be a gathering arm on some sort of harvesting or crop processing machine.
693) Message boards : Politics : American Vs European Culture II (Message 1477160)
Posted 14 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

I was thinking that, but I'm far too polite to come right out and say it.

Er, I think you just did!


You know you have a clash of cultures when people cannot recognize your jokes.
694) Message boards : Politics : American Vs European Culture II (Message 1477127)
Posted 14 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've said right from the start that I don't think that those here are that typical of the average American.

Compared to the few Americans i've met in real life, those here are far more intelligent.


I was thinking that, but I'm far too polite to come right out and say it.
695) Message boards : Politics : American Vs European Culture II (Message 1476870)
Posted 14 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Have to agree with Es. I've lived in the US for several years, and still travel there very regularly on business. It is a big complex country, with many points of view. Many of them are represented here on these boards.

Like any forum such as this though, some tend to stand out. In keeping with Chris' requests in starting this thread, I will say no more. ;)
696) Message boards : Politics : American Vs European Culture II (Message 1476813)
Posted 14 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have found that there is nothing like travelling to give you a true perspective on everything you thought was "normal" or "best". There are a dozen ways to do everything, from catching a bus to running a country. They all have pluses and minuses. None are perfect, the question you have to ask is "does it work here?". The answer is usually yes, when you consider that what counts is what the locals think.

I just wish more people got the opportunity to learn this.
697) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #55 (Message 1476203)
Posted 12 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wife to boat owner: "I TOLD you it was just a figure of speach!"
698) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sochi 2014 Winter Olympics (Message 1475766)
Posted 11 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I can't get into curling when it is played indoors and there is no booze involved. Just doesn't seem right.

Is it televised any other time than the Olympics?


If you have the right cable package here in Canada, you can get several hours of live curling a day during the winter, and replays of the really exciting games all year round.
699) Message boards : Politics : American Vs European Culture (Message 1475276)
Posted 10 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

NO!!!!

It is European's who think in ABSOLUTE'S.


Really? All of the people in the 47 different countries all feel that way? That's kind of an absolute statement.
700) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1475263)
Posted 10 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Coal chisel?
701) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1475242)
Posted 10 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I don't particularly like dogs.


[indignantly demanding voice]What! How is that possible? [/indignantly demanding voice]
702) Message boards : Politics : American Vs European Culture (Message 1475239)
Posted 10 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

American Culture believes, in a large measure, in Individual Freedom/Actions, and that Authority, Majority Culture/Peoples, The Town, The Country, The World, should not have Great Control over Actions.


And yet you still have stop signs and red lights in America, and enforce the use of them. At gun point, in my personal experience.

A very unique feature of American culture is a tendancy to talk and think in absolutes, when most situations do not have absolute solutions. The rest of the world actually admits this.
703) Message boards : Politics : American Vs European Culture (Message 1474955)
Posted 10 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So it's fair that 80% of the population pays for the poor choices of the 20% who are costing everyone else 80% of the total bill?

When is society going to recognize that there will always be a percentage of the population that screws it up for the rest of society and the only way to deal with them is to EXCLUDE THEM.


And there is the crux of the difference between US culture and everybody else. The rest of the world tries to help that 20%, and if they can't be helped at least keep them out of everybody's way. The US says ignore them. Let them starve until they turn to crime and then we will experiment on them with lethal drugs.


At least with the European culture and the unicameral legislation, they'll be able to respond in some form or fasion to at least minimize the pain and suffering. The U.S. culture will make sure that maximum pain and suffering occurs when it happens.


I actually sort of agree with this statement, except I don't understand the "unicameral" bit. Lots of other countries have bicameral legislative processes. Or are you trying to say that the American bicameral process prevents anything beneficial from being legislated?
704) Message boards : Politics : Europe tide is turning (Message 1474941)
Posted 10 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Two things...

1. In your previous post the proper English would have been "phase out", not "faze out".

2. Maybe you could learn Dutch.
705) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sochi 2014 Winter Olympics (Message 1474728)
Posted 9 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I can't get into curling when it is played indoors and there is no booze involved. Just doesn't seem right.
706) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sochi 2014 Winter Olympics (Message 1474650)
Posted 9 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Go Canucks!
707) Message boards : Politics : American Vs European Culture (Message 1474647)
Posted 9 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So please tell us Guy, what forms of communist insurance do you personally hold? And why?
708) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1474227)
Posted 8 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here are two of my daily visitors in the winter time. (Both were on the "bucket list" of that California couple I told you about earlier.) We get the REALLY colourful stuff in the spring.

male cardinal.


Blue jay, male or female.
709) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1473886)
Posted 7 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
On our last annual visit to Point Pelee for the spring bird migration, we met a couple from the San Francisco area who had travelled several thousand miles just to see some birds with colour. They gave us a long list of colourful local birds they hoped to see "before we die". I didn't have the heart to tell them that they could have skipped the crowds and line ups and fees at Point Pelee, and knocked off most of their list in one afternoon sitting on our back deck.
710) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SF and astronomy interesents among SETI runners? (Message 1473565)
Posted 7 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have been interested in SciFi ever since I arrived on this quaint little planet.
711) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1473289)
Posted 6 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I am sitting here looking at a flock of house sparrows jostling for position at my window feeder, and I am stunned. House sparrows easily outnumber all other species combined at our feeders, all year round. Here in southern Ontario they are an urban species, and are accused of crowding out native birds (including several other species of native sparrows).

We have all the same bird issues here in urban areas - predators, lack of feed and nesting sites, etc. Yet the house sparrow thrives. Makes what is going on in Europe a real mystery.
712) Message boards : Politics : American Vs European Culture (Message 1473288)
Posted 6 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Long time lurker at this thread, occasional poster.

As somebody said, we are playing with words here. When I swear allegiance to the Crown (NOT the Queen or King in Canada) I am swearing allegiance to a principle, an intangible concept, which is represented by the net sum of the human-made, democratically-made laws that make up my country. Not Liz and/or Phil.

When an American swears allegiance to the Constitution, he/she is NOT swearing allegiance to some old piece of paper. Again, it is to a concept or principle. Very similar.

Some of the American posters here have a very twisted concept of what a constitional monarchy means. They are a symbol of the intangible concept, that you may find value in - or not. What they say or do has no impact on my daily life unless I want it to. You Yanks really need to get out some, and read more. Then you would see why the rest of the world laughs when you talk about the World Series.
713) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1473035)
Posted 5 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And as the serious bird watchers know, Europe gave North America starlings and house sparrows. Humans can be so dumb sometimes.
714) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #54 (Message 1473032)
Posted 5 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Two equally valid captions:

"Storm of the century in the American South"

or

"Just another Tuesday in Canada"
715) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1473028)
Posted 5 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris has it, although j mercer was headed in the right direction. PM on the way.

I've seen it called a slater's axe, a sax, and a jax. The pointy bit allows you to carve a nail hole in the slate, the opposite edge can be used to break the slate to shape after you score it with the pointy bit.

Concerning my hint, slate is a metamorphic rock, which means it is sort of cast from mud, under high pressure and relatively low temperatures for long periods of time. John McLeod's connection of this to bee's wax is very interesting. I woldn't have thought of that, but it is perfectly valid.
716) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1472893)
Posted 5 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not used by masons. (Unless that term is used very differently in some places. To me, a mason works with bricks. Anybody use that term differently?)

Not for shark teeth.

Not used with castable material. First hint - at least not used with material cast by humans.
717) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1472825)
Posted 5 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
No problem Mark.

This has several names, depending on what side of the Pond you are on, so I'll need a brief description of who uses it, or what it is used for, for a win.

718) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #54 (Message 1472478)
Posted 3 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The parking lot attendant said "I think I can squeeze in one more..."
719) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v2 (Message 1472467)
Posted 3 Feb 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Okay, a hint: The bottoms have to be doused with diesel.


The only people I know who do that are paving workers, so they can walk on fresh tar or asphalt without sticking. But I've never seen them do it on sissy little strap ons like that. They pour it serious heat resistant boots.
720) Message boards : Politics : Rural Affairs (Message 1470552)
Posted 30 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Be careful what you wish for if you are talking about bringing back beavers. The Canadian beaver is still on the endangered list, which makes it a crime here to interfere with their dams. Even if you house is flooded out by one.

We have a classic example of inability to adapt to change with regards to flooding here in SW Ontario. The low lying lands just west of my home were first opened to large scale European style farming in the mid 1800s, after the government (first colonial and later provincial) undertook the construction and maintenance of a network of drainage ditches. The government pulled the funding for this about 25 years ago, which brought on howls of protest from the local farmers (and the contractors that maintained the ditches). Today the area farmers fall into two categories:

- one group continues the protests, marches, etc, living on savings and welfare. They are becoming a new class of rural poor and multi-generational welfare recipients.

- another group has changed crops and schedules, and makes enough money to pay for some small scale private drainage systems, when needed. In particluar, they now grow several kinds of beans that the Indians were growing in the area before whitey showed up and started digging ditches. They seem to be doing quite well.

I wonder which group Darwin would approve of?
721) Message boards : Politics : Rural Affairs (Message 1470276)
Posted 29 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have to agree with the Simonator. Like it or not, humans are part of the natural order. We have evolved to life off of and in this order. I have no problem eating meat, if the animal has been raised and slaughtered in an efficient and wasteless manner. I have a major problem with sanctimonious vegans giving me stick for this, while wearing leather shoes and a leather belt.

But back to the original topic. I see some parallels in this country with the issues Chris raised. Those raised on farms seem to think that they have some right to stay there, living the same way, even as the world changes around them. As a city dweller, I have dragged my family literally from one end of the continent to the other, and back again, changing jobs and career directions to make a buck. Yes, it had its disadvantages, but it got the whole family to where we are today: self sufficient, and contributing to society as much or more than we take away. And ready for the next change life throws at us.

I have enough farmer relatives to understand their feelings, but I will not support them financially. They can get with the times, go on welfare, or starve. I would much rather see my tax dollars go to welfare, relocation and job training, then to paying people to not grow crops or not milk cows, just so they can stay on the family farm.
722) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1469943)
Posted 28 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used to sharpen other tools?
723) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1469759)
Posted 28 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Years ago I received an object that looked much like that as swag at a trade show. The only function I could find for it was demonstrating how the spin axis aligned with the centre of gravity, not the center of the length of the object.
724) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1469135)
Posted 26 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Would a dentist use it?
725) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1468865)
Posted 25 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For making holes in barrels.
726) Message boards : Politics : Conservative outcry at being targeted for investigations... (Message 1468811)
Posted 25 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Speaking as an outside observer, I feel it might be a good thing if conservative Americans were targeted by the police becuase of who they are, instead of what they did or didn't do. This would give them some insight into how it feels to be a black or hispanic American.
727) Message boards : Politics : The commie, pinko, alternative lifestyle types are crucifying Governor Christie. (Message 1468748)
Posted 25 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Speaking as a commie pinko alternative life style kind of a guy, I think the utltimate solution to many of the world's problem's is to feed the Christies and the Rob Fords to the poor of the world.

I would also like to point out that as a commie pinko alternative life style kind of a guy, I have had nothing to do with the downslides of Christie or Ford. I couldn't make this stuff up, they did it all by themsleves.
728) Message boards : Politics : American Vs European Culture (Message 1468543)
Posted 25 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If we exchange civilization for culture, this whole thread reminds me of Gandhi's reply to the question "what do you think about western civilization?"

I think it would be a good idea, he said.
729) Message boards : Politics : American Vs European Culture (Message 1467706)
Posted 23 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The American Constitution intended that the state governments would be allowed to create militias, to balance the power given to the federal government by the federal military forces. 200 years later this has been twisted and distorted by wackos that think everybody needs a gun to be safe.

Americans live by the gun, and as a result many innocents have and will die by the gun. Their choice.
730) Message boards : Politics : Commenting on Court cases (Message 1467514)
Posted 23 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is not clear to me what this state vs. church arguement or big government bashing has to do with the original topic about commenting on court cases.

Guy and Clyde, I suggest you run down to your nearest court (federal, state or county), start preaching your red neck theories out loud while the court is in session, and see how far "I am the government" gets you.
731) Message boards : Politics : Commenting on Court cases (Message 1467309)
Posted 22 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
North American courts are not quite the free for all that Clyde is dreaming of. Rules here about communications in and out of court, especially for jurors, apply to smart phones and such just as much as they apply to anything else.

Use by spectators and reporters is more case by case, but judges can and have restricted using social media in specific cases in both Canada and the US.

And of course this works both ways. I recently read a study that showed social media archives were used as "key evidence" in over 700 divorce trials in the US in 2012. I think all courts pretty much agree that anything posted on the Internet has no assumption of privacy. I recommend that you avoid using #bangingthemaidagain.
732) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Uli's Rig (Message 1466416)
Posted 19 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
From what I have seen of vehicle control in Europe I think you have it easier than us Julie. Any truly unfit vehicle there has to get fixed or scrapped. In most of North America if it runs and looks sort of OK you can sell it. I steer clear of second hand cars here.
733) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1466415)
Posted 19 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The sliding blue handle makes me think it is used to bash on something, maybe to open a container of some sort by punching a hole in it?
734) Message boards : Politics : Should Scotland leave the UK? (Message 1466262)
Posted 19 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Er, you mean something like County Councils for rural matters and Central Government for National interests? Welcome to the United Kingdom.


That is a good start. But what do you do when you have an issue (like Scottish nationalism) that covers more than one county, but doesn't concern the whole nation? Another layer of government may be the answer. (In Canada we call this layer provinces.) Similarly, what about issues that transcend the national interests, but may not be of global interest (like trade and immigration within Europe)? Another layer of government may be the answer.

Guy is correct, all these governments will be more or less effective depending on the involvement of the citizenry, and all will be subject to manipulation by "special interest groups". (You Brits invented those, and called the first one the Ruling Class.) Anything run by humans will be less than perfect. But still, I personally prefer a lot of mostly useless talking to car bombs.
735) Message boards : Politics : Should Scotland leave the UK? (Message 1466232)
Posted 19 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Now this group are jumping on the bandwagon. If this carries on, the whole world will have a thousand independent piddling little countries that can't manage themselves. High time to put a stop to the lot of it.


Yeah, maybe all the European countries could get together and form some sort of Union. What could go wrong?

These are complicated questions, and will require complicated answers. I think the long term answer will include layers of governments, with each layer covering different regions and different areas of concern. In Canada and Belgium and Switzerland (and probably others) local governments deal with local and cultural issues, but unite at a higher level for topics where the various regions have common interests. I think this is the way of the future, and it will be very much worked out little region by little region. It will be messy, but the alternatives (as seen in Iraq and Syria, for example) are even worse.
736) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1465968)
Posted 18 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Don't know the name, but it looks like the tool used to split shingles off cedar logs.
737) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1463245)
Posted 11 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
To drive home dowels or pins?
738) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1462594)
Posted 10 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For putting corks in bottles.
739) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I can't do mathematics. (Message 1460655)
Posted 4 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I also disagree with:
Money = Evil


What the Bible actually says is the LOVE OF money is the root of all evil. You can have bags of money and not be evil. I would love a chance to prove this.
740) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I can't do mathematics. (Message 1460630)
Posted 4 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The more time I spend with women, the more money I spend


You spend money on women?


Sometimes. Sometimes they spend my money on whatever they like.
741) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I can't do mathematics. (Message 1460626)
Posted 4 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
No, it is times. The more time I spend with women, the more money I spend. Twice the time, or twice the women, means twice the money.
742) Message boards : Politics : Pew Research finds Republicans more likely to reject theory of Evolution (Message 1460464)
Posted 4 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What happens to a country where one dominant political party continuously rejects reality in favor of their own fantasy?


That is a pretty good description of Iran today. And, if they are not careful, the US in the near future.
743) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #54 (Message 1460289)
Posted 3 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, like, I'm thinking of getting the band back together man.
744) Message boards : Politics : To Toronto Mayer Rob Ford (Message 1460095)
Posted 2 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The truly amazing story is that all this recent press has NOT changed his standing in popularity polls to any great extent.
745) Message boards : Politics : Are we going to have another World War? (Message 1460093)
Posted 2 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Even one or two packback nukes today would not start a world war. A quick round of phone calls between nuclear powers would lead to very limited responses. People who understand this stuff know that a large scale nuclear exchange would kill everybody and everything, everywhere, within a few years.
746) Message boards : Politics : Are we going to have another World War? (Message 1460000)
Posted 2 Jan 2014 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Come on Wiggo, do you Aussies really pay your academics and press to come up with drivel like this? Sure, everything in 2014 is just the same as in 1914. Well, except for a few minor points:

1. Every world leader today has 24 hour near real time access to satellite coverage of every square inch of the planet. Any undetectable sneak attack these days can't be any bigger than two guys with back packs.

2. Every world leader today has 24 hour real time phone connections to every other world leader. And they use it regularly.

3. As for assassinations, not a week goes by without one. We have become very used to this. They don't start big wars anymore.

4. Every world power has become economically dependant on all the others. Russia needs western Europe to buy gas and oil. China needs the US and Canada to feed them. Everybody needs China for cheap cell phones and TVs. And so on...

And the big kicker -

5. For 60+ years every world leader has known that large scale nuclear war is, at best, unwinnable, and at worst threatens all life on the planet.

All that is why we haven't seen a superpower direct confrontation in 60+ years, and are not likely to. This appears to be an all time record going back to when being a world power meant having lots of spears and chariots.

Yes, proxy wars, religious wars, and local liberation movements will continue to cause death and destruction, but not the globalized industrialized death and destruction we saw in the last two world wars.

Another long term trend that may even reduce the local wars is the democratization of the planet. Democracy means many things in different parts of the world, but when you give the average man and woman some say in their national policy then governments stop worrying about global power, insults to their national pride, and building empires, and instead focus on really dull stuff like clean water and affordable health care. This dullness may just save the planet.
747) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1458538)
Posted 29 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For working leather?
748) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1458500)
Posted 29 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Celt Tooth for the win! I suspected he knew the purpose from his earlier posts. It is known as a hole finder. It allows you to place a patch over existing structure, and find the holes in the underlying structure to pilot-drill the patch. The little pin goes in the existing holes from the bottom, the big disk on the other arm is a drill bush that is very accurately aligned with the little pin and lets you drill the patch from the top in alignemnt with the existing holes. Pop in an oversize rivet and away you go. The serious tin basher will have a collection of these, in various lengths and hole diameters.

Chris, what you described is a Clico. For a future contest, maybe.
749) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1458334)
Posted 29 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not brass eyelets.

Time to review the clues. About holes. Sheet metal. Rivets.

Come on, there must be one tin basher out there. Or an A&P. Or a Fitter, Structural.
750) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good reasons to not ride the Harley. (Message 1458100)
Posted 28 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I hate picking gravel out of my face.
751) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1458091)
Posted 28 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Celt Tooth is on to it! Almost good enough for a win, but not quite.

Were you ever a tin basher Celt?
752) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1458058)
Posted 28 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
By hand with a hammer, or the tool inserted into a machine?


Neither.
753) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1458005)
Posted 27 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used on paper?


No.

Time for a hint. Used on sheet metal, usually.
754) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1457945)
Posted 27 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is it used for making holes in a belt?


No.
755) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1457809)
Posted 27 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris is sort of headed in the right direction. Holes, some things, yes. Punches, no.

The mind boggles at what use it would be in a beauty salon. I can't rule it out completely, but it is clearly not its intended function.
756) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1457549)
Posted 26 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Carlos. Here is an easy one, for those in the trade.

757) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1457190)
Posted 24 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For forming lots of identical little lumps of something. Like charcoal?
758) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1456700)
Posted 23 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Knife sharpener?
759) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1456512)
Posted 23 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Correct.
760) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1456505)
Posted 23 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Lynn is barking in the right direction.
761) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1456453)
Posted 22 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thank you msfiske. Up here we used home made ones - a wet rag tied an old broom or shovel handle.

Sorry about the quality of the pic, but it was the only one I could fiind that was not in use or didn't have the name printed on the side. Tell me the function to win, and the proper name for bonus points.

762) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1456422)
Posted 22 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For putting out grass fires. Based on a duck's webbed foot, since we all know how effective those are at putting out grass fires.
763) Message boards : Politics : Shopping bags (Message 1455772)
Posted 20 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My city has composted all yard waste for several years now. They have a long list of rules about what constitutes lawn waste, how it is packaged, etc. Miss a rule and they don't pick up your stuff. I like the fact that the garbage truck driver has a standard pad of sticky notes with a list of reasons for not picking up any garbage or recycling. He (or she) checks off whatever applies, and leaves it on the bags not picked up.

The downside of this can be illegal dumping. Here in London they seem to be on top of it. Bylaw enforcement works with the cops, even setting up stings (like a pile of garbage in a quiet corner of a park, with a hidden camera). Fines for first offenders, jail for repeats. The small town where my sister lives doesn't do this, and there are sometimes piles of garbage all over town.
764) Message boards : Politics : Shopping bags (Message 1455630)
Posted 19 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Similar rules here, but long term monitoring is showing that many "impermeable layers" are actually permeable after a few decades.
765) Message boards : Politics : Shopping bags (Message 1455505)
Posted 19 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Canada is bigger than the US and has a population of only 35 million. I find it hard to beleive that you can't find room for a properly run landfill. If you looked in to it you might find that most "recycled" goods end up in the landfill (Exceptions might be metals and especially aluminum.


Lots of land, and somebody loves each and every little bit of it. We may also have a different definition of "properly run". The big problem, I think, with most local landfill applications today is proving no ground water contamination for the next few dozen centuries.

The big recycling debate here right now is economical. Some city recycling programs pay for themselves or even make a profit: the money earned from what parts are recyclable pays for more than the extra costs of collecting and sorting above "normal" garbage collection and disposal. This depends very much on what local manufacturers will take or not take in the way of recycled material. This is almost always metals, but often includes paper, wood, and some plastics. As landfills get pushed further and further away from garbage sources (like cities) this calculation changes. The general result is more and more recycling, limited usually by how fast a municipal government can react to changing situations (usually not very quickly, around here).
766) Message boards : Politics : Shopping bags (Message 1455334)
Posted 18 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In my province a deposit is charged on every booze container: bottle, can, bag. As a result, 98 % is recycled. In Alberta I'm told this extends to any plastic or metal liquid container, with a similar recycling rate.

Around here we are running out of room for landfills, or at least room for landfills where the neighbours won't sue the city. Recycling is stretching the few land fills left.

People are making a difference with this. It takes time to educate pepole, and it takes time to see the results. But it does work.
767) Message boards : Politics : Shopping bags (Message 1454973)
Posted 18 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If one more wild animal survives, that is the start of changing the world. If you pass on to friends, neighbours and relatives the idea that this is worth doing, that is another little change in the world. All the little changes add up.

There are no easy quick results solutions to many problems. If there were, we would have done them already. Instead the solution is millions or billions of little changes adding up.
768) Message boards : Politics : Shopping bags (Message 1454800)
Posted 17 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It will and does make a difference Chris. Don't fool yourself. I takes a long time to change people's habits. That doesn't mean don't bother - it means start now.
769) Message boards : Politics : Shopping bags (Message 1454557)
Posted 16 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We have been using cotton bags for a few years now. If you are careful, they need to be washed about once every six to 12 months. Just about everybody here charges you for a plastic or paper bag, so there is a good motivation - whether it is truly green or not is another question.

My main objection to plastic bags is the ones that don't go into the land fill. The darned things are found everywhere in North America: stuck on fences, in trees, blowing across fields in the middle of nowhere. They last for centuries. The cotton bags cost enough that people look after them.
770) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Holiday entertaining - 2014 (Message 1453644)
Posted 13 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My Christmas decoration story is very similar to Jame's. Finally have about two thirds of the decorations up, in brief periods of not-too-s**tty weather. The rest are just not going to happen.

This is our first Chirstmas as mostly just 2, so we are keeping it low key. Number one child has moved to Denver, new job with no vacation time, may see her for a day or two. Number two child is junior man in a bank IT department and is stuck with the worst possible shifts over the holidays. Might see him for a different day or two. Numerous other local relatives have medical issues (comes with age) or other family commitments this year.

So, lots of food in house, lots of books, and the PVR going full tilt. We plan to travel to someplace warm in January, so staying home for now.
771) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1453067)
Posted 12 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very, umm, cool.
772) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1452737)
Posted 11 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another hemorrhoid tool?
773) Message boards : Politics : English/UK Citizens have Nothing To Do. So, They Post Ad Nauseam about USA (Message 1452506)
Posted 10 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
"Less government" = Somalia today.

Be careful what you wish for. Or to be more precise, be careful about applying simple solutions to complex problems.

I agree with "stop rewarding failure." Let the banks and GM go bust. We need to add "stop rewarding the rich for being rich" and "stop penalizing the poor for being poor".
774) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Uli's Rig (Message 1452307)
Posted 10 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Uli, I investigate vehicle fires for a living, and the few photos you show clearly look like arson. Very localized fire, started high in the engine compartment, did not spread quickly. All of which suggests there was no car fault but rather an externally applied heat source and first fuel. It also suggests an amateur arsonist, a pro would have started the fire UNDER the engine, so fuel and oil in the engine would feed the initial fire.

When a car fault causes the fire the fire usually starts at the fuel and oil in the engines or in lines and tanks. Those fires spread quickly into the plastics throughout the car, and within a very short time the whole vehicle is involved.

John, my case sounds a lot like yours. My car was destroyed by an out of control pick up truck on Sunday afternoon. I left town for a one week assignement on Monday morning in a rental, came back Friday night, had to return the rental car by Sunday evening, and head out of town again on Monday morning in my new car.
775) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1452299)
Posted 10 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I guess that this now means I have to quit with the hemorrhoid jokes?

Cheers.


Well, they were getting to be a pain in the ....
776) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #54 (Message 1452297)
Posted 10 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You shall not pass!
777) Message boards : Politics : English/UK Citizens have Nothing To Do. So, They Post Ad Nauseam about USA (Message 1452296)
Posted 10 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The main problem in Mexico is capitalism run wild. Yes, there is a lot of money in Mexico, but it is controlled by a very very small group of people. The government is run by the old money families, for the benefit of the old money families. The majority live in third world conditions, that is why they are trying to get out.

The wealth inequality has also lead to high violence levels. A few centuries ago wealth inequality like this lead to revolutions, today it leads to organized crime. If you are not a member of one of the old money families, the easiest way to make more than a minimum wage in Mexico is to get involved in drug dealing. In the final analysis much of the drug money in Mexico comes from the US, so the illegal immigrant issue is perhaps nature's way of getting the US to pay for the problem they have helped create.

Mexico is a preview for the rest of the western world of what they could become if their wealth and (more importantly) the opportunity inequality issues are not addressed in a timely fashion.
778) Message boards : Politics : English/UK Citizens have Nothing To Do. So, They Post Ad Nauseam about USA (Message 1452015)
Posted 9 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Vote Boris Johnson for president, he was born in New York.

Personally I don't understand why location of birth should affect nationality.
If and when my youngest son has kids, then assuming they are born in England, they will have to go back to their Great-Great-Grandfather on the Paternal line to find someone born in England.


But England isn't really a country. It is more like a neighbourhood, by North American standards.
779) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1451943)
Posted 9 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Some sort of expander, maybe for a medical process?
780) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Uli's Rig (Message 1451939)
Posted 9 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Uli, I understand the pressure you feel. Went through the same thing a few years ago. My insurance company paid for a new car, but I had to buy within one week. A very short time for such a big decision.
781) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1451551)
Posted 8 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, for a CMM. Back to you, msfiske.
782) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1451548)
Posted 8 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Now then, how many of you have a few of these lying around the house?

783) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1451529)
Posted 8 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A variable diameter clamp, sold to tidy up electrical cables. I have several all over my house.
784) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1451452)
Posted 8 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Rugby League of Ireland?

Rhodesian Light Infantry?
785) Message boards : Cafe SETI : what did a turkey ever do to you? (Message 1449894)
Posted 4 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wild turkeys can be quite territorial, and they will gang up on a person, but it is mostly bluff. My sister and her husband live on a few acres on the edge of a small town, and every spring and again in the fall they have to "educate" a small flock of wild turkeys about who owns the land. Left to their own, the turkeys will move into their front lawn (full of fruit trees) and charge anything or anyone that comes into their domain. It takes a few days of regularly chasing them with a broom to re-establish who is the alpha species.

And before the animal rights people get all upset, I should point out that the dumb birds keep coming back quite regularly, for about 10 years now. Obviously they get by just fine without my sister's front lawn.
786) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1449596)
Posted 3 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Interestingly a quote form the Wiki.

The Black-capped Chickadee is a small, North American songbird, a passerine bird in the tit family Paridae. It is the state bird of both Maine and Massachusetts in the United States, and the provincial bird of New Brunswick in Canada. It is notable for its capacity to lower its body temperature during cold winter nights, its good spatial memory to relocate the caches where it stores food, and its boldness near humans (they can feed from the hand).


Note the section in bold


I guess our chickadees don't read wiki. After I have read it, every time I look at two chickadees I will now think "nice Paridae tits".
787) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Travelling in Safety (Message 1449414)
Posted 3 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nice bit of fiction.
788) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIX - All are welcome in the Critter Cafe (Message 1449413)
Posted 3 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I am impressed Angela. We regularly get black capped chickadees at our feeders, but they are probably the most easily spooked of all the birds we usually get. My wife and I call our chickadees our "dine and dash" birds, because that is what they do.

House sparrows, on the other hand, peck at our window when the window feeder is empty. And then stare right back at you if you stare at them.
789) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #54 (Message 1449002)
Posted 1 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Meanwhile, way up in the front of the aircraft, the pilot makes the following entry in the journey log:

"funny sound in the back whenever the copilot pushes that big red button"
790) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #54 (Message 1448994)
Posted 1 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Meanwhile, way up in the front of the airplane, the copilot says "I always wondered what that button did."
791) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #54 (Message 1448993)
Posted 1 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Meanwhile, way up in the front of the airplane, the pilot says to the copilot "NO, not that button!"
792) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #54 (Message 1448992)
Posted 1 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Meanwhile, way up in the front of the airplane, the pilot turns to the copilot and says "did you hear a funny sound?"
793) Message boards : Politics : Why is teaching atheism good? (Message 1448936)
Posted 1 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

I wonder what answer as a planet we would give?



Rather ironically,the answer lies in our evolution. Several researchers have published papers describing how believing in "invisible things" can give you an evolutionary advantage while living in a hostile environment.

Here is an interesting thought: would our hypothetical extra-planetary visitors have had the same evolutionary pressures?
794) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1448787)
Posted 1 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Similar looking tools go into a lathe to square up faces on metal work pieces, in effect turning your lathe into a mill.
795) Message boards : Politics : Do you trust China? (Message 1448786)
Posted 1 Dec 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
China, for now, also needs the western world to feed them. If and when that changes, all bets are off.
796) Message boards : Politics : Twenty Four Seven (Message 1448666)
Posted 30 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sadly no Chris. The only legal option is to wait to the next election, 2 years away. The Mayor has to be tried, convicted, sentenced, and jailed before any other options come up. The police and Crown Attornies are moving VERY carefully on this one. Charge him today, knowing that in a few years he (or one of his cronies) could well be your boss?
797) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "good cracker, good cracker!" (Message 1448460)
Posted 29 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
By the way one says posh as in gauche, not posh as in dosh!

scone

Posh


But posh is an acronym of good old anglo-saxon words: Port Out Starboard Home. What possible reason is there for trying to Frenchify the pronunciation? (apart from trying to look, well, posh)
798) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Uli's Rig (Message 1448339)
Posted 29 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Police get first round for criminal charges, insurance company gets first round for civil charges and cost recovery. In my experience, most arsonists aren't worth pursuing for civil charges because they are generally nutters with no money.

However, having identified an arsonist makes it just about impossible for Uli's insurance company to apportion any blame to her, for cost recovery from Uli.

In Canada rate increases follow a claim, like a dog follows a bone, regardless of cause of the claim. Unless you buy an insurance policy with protection from this. Those come at a higher price, either way the insurance company wins.
799) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "good cracker, good cracker!" (Message 1448174)
Posted 29 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Where does that leave Northern Ireland?


Just west of the Isle of Man.
800) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Travelling in Safety (Message 1448085)
Posted 28 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All motorways in the UK are constructed to aircraft runway standards, in case of a National emergency, and the airfields are taken out.



And all the NATO pilots are trained to land on the wrong side of the road.

The Swedes and Swiss are very serious about using highways for aircraft, you can see it just driving around there if you know what to look for. I think some US and UK highways might be useful - after you take down a lot of signs and light standards. Wouldn't want to dodge these at 150 knots.

801) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "good cracker, good cracker!" (Message 1447899)
Posted 28 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hang on, aren't those English muffins? No wonder the Scots want to leave, when they get stuck with those instead of real scones or oat cakes.
802) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #54 (Message 1447898)
Posted 28 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The cat did it. Really.
803) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "good cracker, good cracker!" (Message 1447441)
Posted 27 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Canada, being stuck in the middle, understands UK sweet biscuits (which are really cookies) AND US gravy and biscuits (which are really half way between a bun and a muffin). If it all gets too much for us, we fall back on our old standby: bannock.


Now, can we work on getting "muffin" straight?
804) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool 4.0 (Message 1447437)
Posted 27 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I like that idea.
805) Message boards : Cafe SETI : what did a turkey ever do to you? (Message 1447370)
Posted 27 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What they did was wind up lower on the food chain.

We have two large commercial turkey operations within a few hours drive of us that both have factory outlet type stores attached. Every way you can imagine meat being served (plus some) we can get as turkey. Sausages, burgers, kabobs, frozen meat pies, frozen pizzas. Gizzards or livers by the pound. Boneless legs, with and without stuffing, and on and on.

I could eat it three times a day, but my wife is more of a tradionalist. This year, however, we are trying a boneless, pre-stuffed turkey for Christmas. We look forward to not having to deal with the carcass after a hard day of drinking and eating.
806) Message boards : Cafe SETI : whatcha reading? (Message 1447231)
Posted 27 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just finished the November issue of Modern Machine Shop. Great stuff.
807) Message boards : Cafe SETI : bah (Message 1446692)
Posted 25 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
+2
808) Message boards : Politics : To Toronto Mayer Rob Ford (Message 1446609)
Posted 25 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In practice, these tests are not hard to beat.

Olympic athletes seem to manage quite well, until science catches up on them.


We only hear about the ones that get caught.
809) Message boards : Politics : To Toronto Mayer Rob Ford (Message 1446565)
Posted 25 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Similar rules in Canada for some trades, even more so in the US I believe. Including random drug tests for factory workers in aerospace and some other transportation industries. My daughter just had to take a drug test in order to work in pipeline design in the US.

In practice, these tests are not hard to beat. I suspect they only catch hard core addicts and really stupid people. Keeping both of those types out of elected office sounds like a good idea to me.
810) Message boards : Politics : Independent Scotland (Message 1446562)
Posted 25 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What currency would Scotland use while they negotiate to join the EU?


Oats.
811) Message boards : Politics : Independent Scotland (Message 1446401)
Posted 24 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well yes, if you try hard enough you can make any arbitrary set of rules appear to apply to any circumstances.
812) Message boards : Politics : Independent Scotland (Message 1446350)
Posted 24 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Don't want to get stuck on either side in this debate, but it is interesting to note that there have been several TV and newspaper stories in Canada about how various leaders of the Scottish independence movement have been visiting Quebec and studying the Quebec independence movements for years. It would appear to this outside observer that the canny Scots are just repeating the program that has worked so well in Quebec for 100+ years:

1. Find some minor annoyance with the government, and convince the populous it is the central government's fault, and that Quebec gets the worst of it.
2. Whip up local support for this thesis in Quebec, playing the racist/"nationalist" card.
3. Stage a referendum or similar, that barely gives the local government a mandate to "negotiate" independence with the federal government.
4. Use this to squeeze the federal government for everything you can.
5. Lie low until some minor annoyance crops up again, then go back to step one.
813) Message boards : Politics : Computers & Technology (Message 1446094)
Posted 23 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Guys, physics is physics, no matter where the engine is built. See my link over in the Cafe.

Inlet ice accretion has been going on for years, including RR engines.
814) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1446093)
Posted 23 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust."


I've heard the scream of the vegetables.
815) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Travelling in Safety (Message 1446055)
Posted 23 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You have a very short, or a very selective, memory. Rolls Royce engines have had similar issues since 2008.

The problem is not who makes your engines. The problem is simple physics.
816) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #54 (Message 1445091)
Posted 21 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The perfect pet for a certain splinter group of the Republican Party.
817) Message boards : Politics : Come on. You know it is true!!! (Message 1445087)
Posted 21 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A-holes need love too. That's why the Great Intelligent Creator made the Interweb.
818) Message boards : Politics : "Bad Design" Debunked in a Fish: It Actually Achieves the Impossible (Message 1444716)
Posted 20 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


It proves Intelligent Design. ;-)


We have all agreed this really isn't a topic for science, and I'm convinced it is not really a topic for politics. Can we start a sub-forum for rainbows and unicorns? It might fit there.
819) Message boards : Politics : To Toronto Mayer Rob Ford (Message 1444125)
Posted 19 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

That is what you get with the "first past the post" system. We tried in the UK to have an Alternative Vote system (AV) where you need a minimum of 50% to win. But the main parties wouldn't have it, because they would lose too many seats.


Exactly the same situation here. It results in Harper strutting around announcing he was elected by a majority, when he was really elected by 35% of the 65% of voters who bothered to vote. Something like 70% of the eligble voters did NOT vote for him, and yet he is our PM.
820) Message boards : Politics : "Bad Design" Debunked in a Fish: It Actually Achieves the Impossible (Message 1444123)
Posted 19 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This reminds me of all the old stories about how "science" proved bees can't fly. What it really meant was "science" at the time didn't understand how bees fly.
821) Message boards : Politics : To Toronto Mayer Rob Ford (Message 1443972)
Posted 19 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is very easy for us not in the city of Toronto, or in the country of Canada, to pontificate about this matter from afar. Yes of course the rest of the world has it's opinions, but it eventually has to be down to the people on the ground over there, to do what is right, and needs to be done. And I'm sure that they will.


The scary part Chris is that Rob Ford continues to do fairly well in popularity polls. There is a segment of the population that believes he is really fighting government excess spending (while sending city employees in city vehicles to buy the booze that he then chugs in his office with his drug dealer and hooker friends). Given that Canadian cities elect mayors directly (unlike councillors who are elected by ward), plus the fact that mayor races here usually have 3 or 4 serious candidates, plus 3 or 4 kooks, people like Rob Ford can get elected with perhaps 30% of the popular vote.

The REALLY scary part is that Ford stated in a recent interview that he hopes to be PM some day.
822) Message boards : Cafe SETI : where have you been? (in the US) (Message 1443463)
Posted 17 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think they mean this place.
823) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #54 (Message 1443421)
Posted 17 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Doctor, I have this strange lump on my nose.
824) Message boards : Politics : To Toronto Mayer Rob Ford (Message 1443420)
Posted 17 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I well remember Pierre Trudeau and that wife of his from years back :-))) Not one of Canadas highlights ....


Yes, and the press - right and left - sold a lot of papers off of their indignation with their actions.

BTW, that was Trudeau the First. The current press hubbub, buried under the Rob Fords train wreck, is Trudeau the Second.
825) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #54 (Message 1443405)
Posted 17 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All very good people! A hard choice as usual. I have made my final and totally arbitrary selections:

3rd is Luigi with "The left hand single foot piroette worked well. Now lets see if I can land on my feet instead of my face."

2nd is Julie with "And THAT's for barking at my sister!"

And the winner is Monday with "I told you what would happen if you stuck your cold nose on my ring hole again Dog." It breaks me up when I picture that being said with an Aussie accent.

PM on the way.
826) Message boards : Politics : To Toronto Mayer Rob Ford (Message 1443402)
Posted 17 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You obviously missed the Canadian press brew-ha-ha when Trudeau the Second, leader of our Federal Liberal Party (actually more the middle-of-the-road party these days) announced he recently took a toke at a dinner party. Calls for his resignation, reminders to think of the children, irate phone calls to the talk shows, etc. etc. etc. from the right wing press.

The reason Rob Ford actions are getting more press than Justin Treadeau's toke right now is that Rob Ford is a bigger jerk. Not because he is right wing or white or rich or whatever. Interestingly, the totally right wing (some would say foaming at the mouth fascist) Sun newspaper and TV chain are now calling for Rob Ford's resignation, just a few weeks after he was their Poster Boy for how right wing politics will save the world.

Try to see past the labels, and look at the man's actions.
827) Message boards : Politics : To Toronto Mayer Rob Ford (Message 1443377)
Posted 17 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My personal vision of the future is waking up to a news report that (insert liberal democrat name here) has been found dead, face down in the gutter in some seedy neighbourhood of (insert any town falling apart because of liberalism here), clenching a joint and/or an empty vodka bottle in his cold hands. To my personal shame, I can't quite decide if this would be a good thing or a bad thing.


Can I call you a racist?


Can't quite make out your point here. The guy in question is a flaming hard core right winger. Just this side of a fascist. Does your use of the words "liberal" in this post make you an ideologist more interested in party names than in facts?
828) Message boards : Politics : To Toronto Mayer Rob Ford (Message 1443287)
Posted 17 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In Rob Ford's defense, he only smokes Crack that gives you the munchies.
He embodies all the core values of Right Wing Conservatives.
When Rob attends Halloween parties he goes as his idol, Rush Limbaugh,
which involves little more than ingesting a handful of Oxycontin.


And he apologizes for everything right after he gets caught, so it must be OK.
829) Message boards : Politics : To Toronto Mayer Rob Ford (Message 1443278)
Posted 17 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Tune in next week when Ford, the Peter Griffin of Canada, engages in a fight to the death with a chicken.


My personal vision of the future is waking up to a news report that Rob Ford has been found dead, face down in the gutter in some seedy neighbourhood of Toronto, clenching a joint and/or an empty vodka bottle in his cold hands. To my personal shame, I can't quite decide if this would be a good thing or a bad thing.

Oh, and the hooker stories have already started.

We should also point out that part of the reason the family brings in $100 million a year is that that daddy Ford is an old buddy of "common sense revolution" Mike Harris.
830) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Best sounding/favourite business names and cool logos. (Message 1443155)
Posted 16 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There is a company in the US that sells very large ceiling fans, for factories and warehouses. Their name is Big Assed Fans.

There are some great names in old railroad company names. My personal favorite is a small railroad that only lasted for a few years back in the late 1800s. They ran a line about 2 miles long between the towns of Fort Erie and Snake Hill in southern Ontario. (Snake Hill today is a neighbourhood in Fort Erie.) Although this little strip of rail was about 3,000 miles from the west coast, they were obviously thinking big because they named the company the Fort Erie, Snake Hill, And Pacific Rail Road.
831) Message boards : Politics : To Toronto Mayer Rob Ford (Message 1443153)
Posted 16 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But what sort of job was he doing as mayor of Toronto ? Good, bad, or indifferent ?

T.A.


He has taken the common (for Canada anyway) right wing approach to getting elected. He promised tax cuts that were impossible, and selected spending that excites a good portion of the voters but has no funding. He has implemented a small fraction of the plan - reality keeps getting in the way. However, every little cut in spending gets played to death in the right wing press. The mayor has his own radio talk show that is great at this. If you have ever listened to Canadian radio talk shows, you know where the mayor gets his voter support. Nobody can call this group an over educated, ethnically mixed, progressive thinking bunch.

The real story of how good a mayor he is will not be realized for several more years, when Torontonians look around and wonder where the paved roads, the libraries, the schools and the community services went, and where all the angry homeless, unemployed and under-educated people came from. We went through the same thing on a provincial level with Mike Harris' "Common Sense Revolution". His idea of common sense was to balance the budget by selling provincial infrastructure, cutting education and medical care spending, and cutting taxes to the rich. We finally saw though this and booted him out in 2002, but we are still short of doctors and nurses, short of skilled trades, and still pay big money for things the government used to handle - like fixing roads and picking up garbage. And Harris' old buddies are still getting rich providing those services.

Harris and Ford are from the same political party.
832) Message boards : Politics : To Toronto Mayer Rob Ford (Message 1442532)
Posted 15 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Actually its Torronna, eh?
833) Message boards : Politics : To Toronto Mayer Rob Ford (Message 1442505)
Posted 14 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hating all things Toronto is an historical Canadian pass time. It is one of the few things that unites this wide spread and diverse country.

God bless you Rob Ford, for enabling this old and honourable tradition to continue.
834) Message boards : Politics : How much does the general public actually know? (Message 1442376)
Posted 14 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As Robert pointed out, Capitalism is not a political system. It is an economic model. Around the world today you can find capitalism florishing in democracies, republics, various degrees of dictatorships, socialist states, communistic states, and flat out anarchism. If you want pure capitalism without government restraint, take a look at Somalia today. Is that really what you want for the US? The problems in the US (or anywhere) today are much more complicated that just capitalism vs not-capitalism.

We all have problems. None of them are are simple as saying "it is because we are not capitalistic enough" or "we need more government". Complicated issues, like running a country, need complicated solutions: changing government, economy, and the culture to adapt to an ever changing world. If you run around saying "just change the economy" or "just change the politics" or "everything was great in 1776" you are doomed to fail. The answers will come from a blend of capitalist, socialist and other-ist sources. If you refuse to listen to one set of proposals because they come from capitalists or because they come from socialists, you are doomed.

And if you get to use nonsensical terms like liberal/socialist/communist (three very seperate forms of political and social theory, which may or may not overlap), we get to use terms like teabagger.

Teabagger.

Tea. Bagger.

Teeeeeea baaaaaaaaaager

etc.

835) Message boards : Politics : How much does the general public actually know? (Message 1442106)
Posted 13 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
the general public is wrong about nearly everything. I'm beginning to think this might not be just a UK thing.


We are very fortunate here in Canada, our government never lies to citizens, and our large businesses and banks tend to take only the bare minimum in profit to keep their operations going. Our government knows that an informed population is a happier population and that makes it much easer to provide services to all of us.
Perhaps one of the biggest reasons Canada is such a wonderful country regardless of the some what marginal climate, is because the people always get a square deal from each other.
Knowing these things as Canadians do, goes a long way toward answering the question of why so many other people want to immigrate to our happy little Kingdom, as our joy can't be hidden from other perceptive peoples.



Celt failed to mention that many of us have a very dry sense of humour.


I was going to mention something about the current great mayor of the city of Toronto, Rob Ford, but I'm not sure it would have been interpreted as dry humour. I've been told my sense of humour is kinda dry also.


As Celt pointed out, our politicans are very honest. Eventually. Like when they get caught.
836) Message boards : Politics : How much does the general public actually know? (Message 1442018)
Posted 13 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
the general public is wrong about nearly everything. I'm beginning to think this might not be just a UK thing.


We are very fortunate here in Canada, our government never lies to citizens, and our large businesses and banks tend to take only the bare minimum in profit to keep their operations going. Our government knows that an informed population is a happier population and that makes it much easer to provide services to all of us.
Perhaps one of the biggest reasons Canada is such a wonderful country regardless of the some what marginal climate, is because the people always get a square deal from each other.
Knowing these things as Canadians do, goes a long way toward answering the question of why so many other people want to immigrate to our happy little Kingdom, as our joy can't be hidden from other perceptive peoples.



Celt failed to mention that many of us have a very dry sense of humour.
837) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #54 (Message 1441993)
Posted 13 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Continuing a theme...

838) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #54 (Message 1441978)
Posted 13 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Angie. It make take a few hours to find something suitable.
839) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us A Caption #54 (Message 1441096)
Posted 11 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thought bubble above the dog: "This is such fun!"

Thought bubble above the cat: "I hate them. I hate them all."
840) Message boards : Politics : Twenty Four Seven (Message 1440817)
Posted 10 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
On armistice day
The philharmonic will play
But the songs that we sing
Will be sad

Paul Simon
841) Message boards : Cafe SETI : where have you been? (in the US) (Message 1440422)
Posted 8 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, here is a permanent version - I hope. The yellows and pinks may have changed a bit, memory plays tricks on us old people. But the greens are still where i have/had a mailing address. I was an Army brat too, which accounts for some of the moving around.

842) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool 4.0 (Message 1440228)
Posted 8 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sugar duster?
843) Message boards : Cafe SETI : where have you been? (in the US) (Message 1440226)
Posted 8 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wow, didn't realize I had been (nearly) everywhere man. I think I drove through a bit of Delaware, but I'm not sure (it was dark).

Green means I had/have a mailing address there, blue means many overnight visits, yellow means a few overnights, red means I passed through at least once or spent the night at least once. Doesn't count if I just flew over, then the whole map would be covered.

844) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The joke thread Part 3. (Message 1439939)
Posted 7 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
845) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hello (Message 1439803)
Posted 7 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Th... th... th... thats mall folks. (ducks and runs)

And hello. I'm here to stay, despite the many idiots in the Forums.
846) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON"T POST PIES IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1439799)
Posted 7 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In the Great White North Domino's was bottom of the pile for a long time, but about a year ago made an effort to improve. They even ran ads that claimed "we don't suck anymore". They have improved, and are about middle of the pack up here. We have Papa Johns, which is OK, and Panago, which is my current favorite chain.

The best pizzas come from the little mom and pop operations, when you can still find them.
847) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1438193)
Posted 5 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
How many people in here live
in a place where they never
get to smell the wonderful odour
of these little striped cats?


From my point of view - not enough.
848) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I got a question (Message 1437816)
Posted 4 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And if the few buttheads insist on still creating disharmony among us and the project does decide to close the forums. I will still crunch. I believe in this project and I have right from when I joined.


I endorse this sentiment wholeheartedly, James. The discord we see at present is the ultimate goal of the troll(s).


+1

We need to keep the science and the Forums separate.
849) Message boards : Cafe SETI : train safety (Message 1437813)
Posted 4 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hehe, c'mon now :-) My Stepsister and a good friend live in Vancouver! Where in Canada are you?



Currently in SW Ontario. Born in eastern Ontario, raised coast to coast to coast as an Army brat. Lived in Vancouver and near Victoria for several years. I meant flakey in a friendly way. Westerners are very laid back, don't understand (or at least don't use) clocks, and have very little sense of urgency about anything.

Just spend 3 days in interior BC on a business trip, accomplishing what could have been done in a few hours on the phone and via emails and ftp. But the westerners wouldn't believe this till we had several little chats, face to face. Like I said, a little flakey. OMG, I'm becoming one of those uptight easterners I used to joke about.


Sort of back on topic: one of the days in BC was spent in a scrap yard right next to the CN main line. Several trains an hour passing by. Every second freight appeared to be mostly tanker cars. Crude and refined oil products, moving by rail because the politicos can't agree on building pipelines. Apparently crude oil shipments by rail have tripled in Canada during the last 5 years. As has the accident rate involving spilt oil.
850) Message boards : Cafe SETI : train safety (Message 1437414)
Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, it is from BC. They are all a little flakey out there. Anyway, Darwin would approve of that picture. Either the guy is quick enough and smart enough to get out of the way, or the average agility and intelligence of the human race goes up a bit.
851) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1437094)
Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Every business school in the western world today teaches people how far they can go without breaking the law. Morals never enter in to it. Allowing free enterprise is the permission to be amoral.

One could argue that profit is the sole function of free enterprise, so morals have to be someone else's job. That is the main role of government in the modern world.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of free enterprise, and have benefitted from it. But morals are not their job. Anybody who counts on free enterprise to do the morally right thing will be screwed, to the profit of someone else.
852) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1437015)
Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Walmart is a classic case of a business succeeding by maximizing profits, regardless of who suffers. Americans and Canadains who have lost there manufacturing and retail jobs and are on relief (or whatever you Yanks call it) buy cheap foreign made crap at Walmart.

And as a previous poster pointed out, the Walmart employees who work minimum wage for 10 hours a week, without benefits, are all in line at the food banks.

The owners of Walmart are just doing what free enterprise does: maximizing profit. That is why they are still in business and still expanding. They will gladly do this until society collapses, or until the government intervenes, whichever comes first.
853) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437001)
Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The world is full of ignorant people. Sometimes I try to change them, but mostly I ignore them. I certainly don't let them stop me from doing what I think is right (like crunching for S@H).
854) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1436997)
Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There are to many cheap assed companys out there that do the same thing today. And it will get worse now that Obammy care is the law.

Maybe the company you work for will make you a part time piece of crap so they can make more profit.


It is not companies being cheap assed, it is companies maximizing profits without breaking the law (or at least without getting caught). Free enterprise is great for maximizing profits, but it has no conscience and will never do "the right thing" unless there is a profit in it. That is why we need governments to regulate them, set minimum wages, provide education and health care, and so on. And we need taxes to enable governments to do this. Free enterprise will buy and sell you, if they can get away with it. They will also push to minimize taxes, not out of some great philosophical understanding of how the universe should work, but just to make more money. At anyone's expense.
855) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON"T POST PIES IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1434309)
Posted 27 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nice song, reminded me of what might be one of Dylan's lesser known works. Or might not.
856) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON"T POST PIES IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1434090)
Posted 26 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We also use cow pats, buffalo chips and road apples. But I suspect the truly Canadian euphanism is cow pucks.
857) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON"T POST PIES IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1434086)
Posted 26 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good looking kids Monday. And now, for something completely different. Does "cow pie" mean the same thing as this outside of Canada?

858) Message boards : Politics : UK Utilities in a mess (Message 1434082)
Posted 26 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Similar things are happening throughout the western world. These are simply hidden taxes. You can justify it all you want, with "capital expenditures" and "debt reduction", it all boils down to the government needs more money, and elected governments know that an obvious tax raise is the kiss of death for them at the next election. Everybody wants the government goodies, but nobody wants to pay for them. So, the government hides the extra taxes. It seems to work, nobody complains too loudly when told the money goes for sewers or street lights or whatever.

For example, if I completely stopped using city water, my municipal water bill would go down by only about 50%. The rest of it goes on, in "sewer fees", "capital improvements", etc. The electrical bill is similar.
859) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy National Sausage Pizza Day! (Message 1432052)
Posted 23 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Q: What do you call a mushroom who buys all the drinks?

A: A fungi to be with!
860) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy National Sausage Pizza Day! (Message 1432019)
Posted 22 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My trusted sled dog Cuddles always gets the mail through. He is no good with pizza deliveries, however...

861) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy National Sausage Pizza Day! (Message 1431844)
Posted 22 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, I certainly wasn't expecting the Mushroom Inquisition.

My 3000th post. Yea.
862) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1431141)
Posted 20 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, everyone dipped in 2008 .....


Yes, but...

The bottom 10% barely has money to meet monthly bills, and is not saving anything for retirement or future medical events. When they take a dip they have to choose between food or rent.

The top 10% takes a dip, and puts off buying a new car for a year or two. Big difference.
863) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Yet another fire (Message 1431065)
Posted 20 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Or maybe people will finally admit that climate change is real, and does have an effect on us. No god needed for all this, just stupid people.
864) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1430606)
Posted 19 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Cutting taxes increases the amount of money spent in the open market, the economy reacts by growing.


Yeah, I remember Reagan and George W. Bush saying that. How's it working out for you?
865) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News IV (Message 1430005)
Posted 18 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Woohoo!! Thank you for the stats Michael.
866) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1430003)
Posted 18 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Petty little internal issue?

Ya.

$17T debt, $17T GDP, $90-100T unfunded liability.


I agree your debt is serious. It is petty little issues about who belongs to which party that has kept you from dealing with for years.
867) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1429828)
Posted 17 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, what a coincidence that is was solved dramatically at the last minute. Like a movie script.

Rob Smith, if the US defaults I don't think Canada will be in much of a position to help. As an old PM of ours once said, "If an elephant and a mouse live together, when the elephant sneezes the mouse gets pneumonia."

It's one thing to play games with your own wellbeing, but quite another when you mess with the whole world to solve your petty little internal issues.
868) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy National Sausage Pizza Day! (Message 1429530)
Posted 17 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I love cooked spam. Fried on a pizza sounds great. My father introduced me to an old Canadian Army tradition that I still enjoy once in a while. Balogna (balony for you Yanks), sliced about 1/4 inch thick, and pan fried. Mmmmmmmmmmm.
869) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1429524)
Posted 17 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry if this sounds stupid but
does CN down there mean Canadian
National like it does up here?


Oh yeah. CN is big down there, particularly in the mid-west and around Chicago.

Today Chicago, tomorrow THE WORLD.
870) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse work units locking up (Message 1429011)
Posted 15 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have a similar problem, but not on a GPU. Machine ID is 4630841, WU is
1332491653. This is stuck at 77% complete, but elapsed time continues to count up. Checking properties, this WU has been at about 12 hours CPU time for 2 days, although elapsed times is now over 47 hours. This machine gets shut down twice a day, to go to and from work. Anybody have any ideas?
871) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Travelling in Safety (Message 1428224)
Posted 13 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You forgot Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Pizza. They deliver.
872) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Grabbity (Message 1428223)
Posted 13 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I found Larry Niven to
be one of the better authors at this.


Apart from Ringworld, you must mean. Loved the books, but all very impossible.
873) Message boards : Politics : The "Undefined Term" Game (Message 1427566)
Posted 12 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
+1
874) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy National Sausage Pizza Day! (Message 1427395)
Posted 12 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Last night I had grilled figs, goat cheese, toasted walnuts and a sprinkling of microgreens on a woodfired pizzetta. Beats sausage ANY day!!!


That's not eating. That's grazing.
875) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool 4.0 (Message 1427262)
Posted 11 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Was it used to apply that paper tape the butcher used to seal brown paper packages with?

876) Message boards : Politics : The "Undefined Term" Game (Message 1427255)
Posted 11 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
To improve the description I would add
The aforementioned weighed between 10 and 20 kilograms (22 to 40 pounds)


We all know Chris is skinny, but surely he weighs more than 20 kilos!
877) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Travelling in Safety (Message 1427197)
Posted 11 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not just some place Celt. THE PLACE with my all time favorite place name.
878) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1427196)
Posted 11 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Now Celt, we will just have to wait quietly for them to think up their next stupid idea. Patience, we can still become the second most important country in North America.
879) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Travelling in Safety (Message 1427043)
Posted 11 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here it is the safest way to travel:


The Red River Cart!

http://www.wolflodge.org/visibiliti/metis/history.htm



Safe for some, but not for all. The typical wheel grease on these things was buffalo fat. Where are the buffalo today?
880) Message boards : Politics : Some melting glaciers are not due to global warming (Message 1426395)
Posted 9 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For a decade or so there are have periodic reports of melting glaciers uncovering homes, barns and other structures.


Remains of a horse is not quite a barn, as per your original post.

Things fall into glaciers all the time (having been ON TOP of the glacier), get moved and ground up. They eventually show up at the face of the glacier. Humans have been observing this as long as we have had written records about glaciers. The glacier doesn't have to melt for this to happen. It happens with or without global warming. But, global warming is moving the location of the glacier face. Glaciers are getting smaller. Well known fact. Try googling "are glaciers getting smaller". This will get you 12,600,000+ hits that seem to say "yes they are". The one sort-of dissenting link I found (only scanned the first few hundred) says some are and some aren't. Global warming is actually a part of global climate change. You should google that as well.

The reports I find are of artifacts coming out at the face of the glacier. Remains of something wooden worked by humans(or remains of a horse) are not buildings and barns being uncovered. This used to happen at the location where the face was for thousands of years, and today still happens at the current location of the face, which is moving in some cases at 600 feet per year. (The link is to that well known crypto-communist brainiac elitist secret society, National Geographic. I found similar results over at that European cesspool of socialism and general decadence, The Royal Geographical Society.)

Just for fun I googled the exact phrase "melting glacier uncovers barn". No results found. 2,000,000 hits containing those words, but never in that order or even close together. You really have to read some of the links before you go claiming them as sources.

Sources, references please.
881) Message boards : Politics : Only in America! (Message 1426205)
Posted 9 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I thought budgets had to come from the House - currently Republican controlled. So who's fault is it that there has been no budget?
882) Message boards : Politics : Only in America! (Message 1426189)
Posted 9 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Maybe I'm being too simple here, but ...

If these two guys keep phoning each other, and if their lower level guys keep phoning each other, how come they keep saying they are "not negotiating". Are they just discussing the weather, or maybe sports, when they phone each other?

"Hey Barak, you catch that game last night?"

"Yeah John, what a bummer."
883) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1426091)
Posted 9 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Getting people to the doctor regularly reduces the risk for future long term high cost events. You need to look at the saving to the whole system, not the individual. (In Canada your government health care will cover some costs for things like weight loss and stopping smoking. Pay a little now, or a lot later.) Of course, this is easier to do in true government health care plans, where the "bronze" level of coverage is provided to everyone at government expense.

I think the US plan combines the worst of private and government medical care plans. My biggest concern is that the day to day running (and therefore the majority of the costs) are controlled by private enterprise. These people could care less about your health, they are interested in shareholder value and ROI. Remember, these are the same type of people (if not actually the same people) who brought you the sub-prime mortgage mess.
884) Message boards : Politics : Some melting glaciers are not due to global warming (Message 1426087)
Posted 9 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why am I not surprised you would jump on this looney-tune band wagon?

Sources, references please. I have a hard time seeing how any building that spent even a few decades under a glacier would be recognizable as a building after the glacier melted.
885) Message boards : Politics : Only in America! (Message 1424680)
Posted 5 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
NASA to launch Mars orbiter, government shutdown or not

Pentagon workers ordered back to jobs

Smoke and mirrors. nothing to see here people, please move along...
886) Message boards : Politics : Only in America! (Message 1424596)
Posted 5 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And what of those not in the "high tech / high dollar" industry who have been thrown out on unpaid "furlough"?

What of the various NASA scientists and engineers similarly thrown out for the time being?...


Try to check some facts before speaking. Those furloughed will get paid, eventually. They will still buy new cars and new shoes, eventually. The economy pauses, then picks up the slack, and then carries on. Just like it has a dozen or more times before.


Just for the NASA example, the planets continue in their orbits regardless. All the time wasting can mean multi-year projects get cancelled due to those planets continuing to race ahead too far ahead to be met... For just one example...


So, the planets can carry on without the US government, unlike the ISS? The planets will be back, and in the mean time there are other planets that can be studied. Just like after the last dozen shut downs.


Certainly no way to run a country.
Martin


I fully agree. The sad part is that under the US 2 party system the voter is left with no easy way to express their feelings about all this. They get to pick this bunch of idiots, largely responsible for the current mess, or that bunch of idiots, also largely responsible for the current mess.

A cynic might point out that the general turmoil in public discourse that has resulted from all this has conveniently distracted the voter from the fact that neither party has any workable ideas on how to solve the US debt problem. When a temporary compromise solution is arrived at, everyone will feel that the crisis has been solved, and then forget about the growing debt for a while. This allows both parties to appear to be competent when in fact they are both totally clueless.
887) Message boards : Politics : Only in America! (Message 1424342)
Posted 5 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Martin, I assume you are very young, or very forgetful.

Take a look here. Key quote: "This is the 12th shutdown since 1981." Perhaps you recall civilization collapsing in ruins on those 12 occasions. I missed it myself.

I lived through all of them, while working in various high tech / high dollar global industries. My only personal recollection of any ill effects of any US government shut down was in the late 1970s, when I was not able to visit the zoo in Honolulu. It was awful, for several minutes.

This is not really news. This is simple political jockeying within the US, with no significant impact on the world, or even on the US in the long run. The press always makes major events of these to sell ads.
888) Message boards : Politics : Only in America! (Message 1424259)
Posted 4 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So who/what/how now keeps the space station flying and the internet running and the world policed and spied upon?...
Martin


Please tell me you are joking. Governments don't keep the ISS flying, or the Internet running. As for the spying, surely that is an "essential service".
889) Message boards : Politics : What is the best evidence/argument for intelligent design? (Message 1424103)
Posted 4 Oct 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

You must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...
...just that simple.


We may have a language issue here. Please point out where I said this (or where you think I said this).
890) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thunderbirds are Go again!! (Message 1422573)
Posted 30 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
...it was just a cheesy '60s BBC show with an even smaller SFX budget than Dr. Who


And that is why I love it.
891) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1422571)
Posted 30 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ok thanks, I wasn't fully aware of that, and I can't believe I'm not, having lived through it. Happy to be brought up to speed :-)



Which goes to show how big a deal this really is. Much ado about nothing. Still, the politicos probably find carrying on like this is easier than actually doing something useful.
892) Message boards : Politics : What is the best evidence/argument for intelligent design? (Message 1422553)
Posted 30 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Prove species change into another species. Prove Neo-Darwinism...



Prove electrons exist. Have you ever seen one? Prove the Internet exists. Have you ever seen it? Yet, both are useful concepts that help me through my everyday life.

Evolution is a theory - a useful theory based on observed facts that explains what has gone before and what may come. Just because something happened a million years ago doesn't mean it was not real, nor does it mean that we can't understand what happened way back when, and why.

Religion is thousands of theories - each of which claim to explain what has gone before without any hard proof; each of which often gives me contradictory information. When scientific theories provide conflicting information, we look for observable facts (like the fossil record) and apply logic to select one theory over another. I'm still waiting for any religion to do this. I'm also waiting for somebody to show how a religious belief will help me in my daily life, besides helping me put up with sh*t I could be changing, or convincing me to hate other people for no good reason.

By the way, here is an interesting link to stories of evolution underway today. No need for fossils for any of this.

Got any links to physical proof of the existence of your god, or anybody else's gods? Visions, hearing voices, hallucinations, old books without traceable references and really strong hunches don't count without reproducible physical measurements.
893) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My spaceship is bigger than yours. (Message 1421539)
Posted 28 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Mine is bigger on the inside than it is on the outside.
894) Message boards : Politics : Only in America! (Message 1421240)
Posted 28 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hardly only in America. How many people in the third world believe in evolution, or even have a chance to learn about it? Or to learn about anything?

The western world needs to get over feeling sorry for itself. Yes, there are dumb people here. But there are also people who may be the only solution to many of the problems the world faces.
895) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car I learnt to drive in (Message 1421096)
Posted 27 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why are American engines so useless? 260 CI is 4.2 litres, that's over double the capacity of mine, yet it struggles to reach 55.
I know it's 15 years older but come on!
My '87 Escort could do 90 mph and that only had a 1.1 litre engine.


It's not horspower that gives speed, but horsepower per pound and gearing. How fast would your Escort be if it weighed 3 tons? And, could it start off uphill if it weighed 3 tons and was pulling a one or two ton trailer?
896) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car I learnt to drive in (Message 1419911)
Posted 25 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The first car I ever drove, at about 13, was a 1952 Buick. It was the field car on the farm of one of my uncles. He let my 14 year old cousin drive it to deliver his lunch, and I got to drive it back to the house. It was black, no license plates, and not in as good shape as this photo. I could barely see over the dash. It handled the plowed fields fairly well.



About a week later, another uncle who had heard about this had a bit too much to drink, and let me drive his 1962 (I think) Volvo to get us home on small town streets. He worked the gear shift, I did the rest. We weren't too worried about the cop catching us, because he was another uncle. It was in much better shape than the Buick, but not as nice as this photo.



A month later I got my learner's license, you could do that at 14 in Alberta. I really don't remember what the driving school used, since cars were old news to me by then.
897) Message boards : Politics : See what happens if you discuss Kant's philosophy (Message 1417606)
Posted 19 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So when we discuss early science we are in fact discussing philosophy or theology.



The fact that early western civilization "scientists" viewed their work as philosophy or theology held them (and therefore western civilization) back for centuries. Just look at the drivel that Aristotle wrote, claiming it was science. After reading that, why would anyone trust his pronouncements on ANY subject? The man was obviously just playing with words, and had no interest in the relation of the words to reality.

My main question to Kant or Aristotle or any of their kind is "show me the data". They can't. Therefore they serve no purpose.
898) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the designer! (Message 1417601)
Posted 19 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Behind every great man there is a greater woman.

Now,if we can discern who that woman behind Thor is, we'll have our true designer.

Yes I know, men like to believe it was actually their idea...



Lol:)) Or to quote the great James Brown: "This is a man's world but it would be nothing without a woman"...



But...but...

That means James Brown must be the designer!

I have seen the light brothers and sisters!!! And I feel good - like I knew that I would.
899) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Return of the Airships (Message 1417212)
Posted 18 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
IMHO - either a hopeless dreamer out of touch with reality, or an out and out fraud. Airships will never be succesful until they match the infrastructure costs of a helicopter (which just needs a bit of sorta flat land) or the rough weather capability of fixed wing aircraft (fixed wing aircraft routinely fly into hurricanes on purpose to take weather measurements, airships routinely get wrecked in stiff breezes). I see nothing in this design that addresses either issue.
900) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the designer! (Message 1416866)
Posted 17 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I as explicitly and utterly faithfully believe in Odin as you believe in Thor. Therefore I am correct. Too.


Well there you go. We both have faith.


No. I have faith. you are obviously misguided, and probably under the influence of the Anti-Odin. I believe this, so there is no point in arguing.
901) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the designer! (Message 1416572)
Posted 16 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Have you checked this out with Odin, Thor's daddy?

I as explicitly and utterly faithfully believe in Odin as you believe in Thor. Therefore I am correct. Too.
902) Message boards : Politics : Biggest con going (Message 1414808)
Posted 12 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris, I immediately thought of you when I got this email today.

We are proud to announce an exciting new endeavor to assist you in producing optimal outcomes for your organization. Inspired by the positive experiences we've had with high-consequence industries over the years, we've developed a new socio-technical consulting and design firm specializing in performance improvement. We've engaged a network of world-class Principal Collaborators who are fully trained in our service-centered approach, integrating proven solutions into your organization. We'll forge a partnership based on trust and accomplishments, and develop new strategies in the management of risk to improve the outcomes you produce.


Shall I send you the whole message?
903) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1413567)
Posted 10 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For the really scary bugs you have to go to North Ontario. That is where you will find the black fly, the little black fly...
904) Message boards : Cafe SETI : End of an ERA: No more Cal... (Message 1413564)
Posted 10 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Now I will never know if he would really eat a bug if I could find a better deal.
905) Message boards : Politics : Enforce the border........ (Message 1413250)
Posted 9 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Funny, my market is full of produce from other countries. Those protections must not be that impossible.


Gary, I would be interested in knowing how much of that is produce and meat from Mexico, brought in under NAFTA. We get that here too. What we don't see here is anything from the REALLY poor countries in Asia and Africa, except for a very few items not grown anywhere else. No African wheat or beef, no Asian chicken or pork, although all are produced in large quantities.

The long term solution to all this is to raise expectations globally, so that a farmer in Africa makes as much as a farmer in Ohio or Saskatchewan. We are starting to see this in the auto industry: raising wage expectations in Japan and Korea are moving car production back to North America in small (for now) amounts. It will probably be a long painful adjustment though.
906) Message boards : Politics : Enforce the border........ (Message 1413019)
Posted 8 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Right on Uli. If you live in North America and don't have brown eyes and brown skin you (or your recent ancestors) probably got your "citizenship" at gunpoint. The fact that you have got away with it for a few centuries doesn't make it any less illegal.
907) Message boards : Politics : Lies about WMD? (Message 1413017)
Posted 8 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
When you get information from an ally and they say they agree with its conclusion and nothing in it goes against what your own services have collected ...


I hope you are not making major policy decisions on a single data point.

In any case that checking isn't shrub's job.


You used to have a president who had a sign on his desk that said "the buck stops here".

Now who is lying about WMD in Syria?


That is the key question. how will we (all of us) answer it?
908) Message boards : Politics : Lies about WMD? (Message 1413016)
Posted 8 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
1. The "American press"?!

The Chicago Tribune, today

THE AMERICAN PRESS!?

The LA times, 30 August 2013

Just WHAT NEWS AGENCY is doing this? Fox News? Rush Limbaugh? MSNBC?


Rush is carried on most Canadian cable networks,and I've seen him on TV in Europe and Asia on my travels over the last few years. As far as the rest of us know, he represents an Average American.


3. YOU KNOW WHAT THE PRESS COVERAGE WOULD BE IF ROMNEY WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE.


Based on what I've seen of Republican presidents in the last few decades, he would be bombing the hell out of everybody, and a good chunk of the US press would be falling over each other in the rush to kiss his butt.
909) Message boards : Politics : Lies about WMD? (Message 1412931)
Posted 8 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Interesting ...
relied heavily on lies that Janabi had told the German secret service, the BND.

So it was the BND that got taken and passed it on. No more blaming shrub.


They passed it on to people that should have known better, or at least should have checked twice before destroying a nation. Still lots of blame to go around.
910) Message boards : Politics : Lies about WMD? (Message 1412911)
Posted 8 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It never fails to amaze me how the American press is able to reduce everything to the level of petty party politics. We see them still apologizing for Bush's "honest mistakes", at the same time they are condemning Obama's attempts to legally go to war as "el Qaeda’s Air Force". I wonder what the press coverage would be like if they had a Republican president, or even a white Democrat president?
911) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Smokers who drink bottled water (Message 1411820)
Posted 5 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I never touch water. Fish fornicate in it.

-W.C. Fields
912) Message boards : Politics : Biggest con going (Message 1410432)
Posted 1 Sep 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Like a lot of these consultants, there is just enough "common sense" underlying all this to make it seem believable - given a quick glance. Some of these people are out and out frauds, but I think most of them really think they have discovered "how things work", and want to share it. Like anything else in a free economy, it is "buyer beware" when it comes to this stuff.

Looking back at a lot of the personal development or team building events I have had to attend, I have a few memories of useful things learned, but more memories like "well, at least somebody upstairs gives a s**t about me". Both have some value.

913) Message boards : Politics : For the U.S. Constitution (Message 1407943)
Posted 26 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris, you are being very logical. That has no place in modern politics.
914) Message boards : Politics : Logical Fallacies and the Art of Debate (Message 1407931)
Posted 26 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That is a fairly standard debating technique, demanding a simple yes or no answer when none exists. The only valid reply to that is "I cannot answer that with a yes or no because ...". If you phrase your response correctly, you can make the person asking the question look like an idiot and/or devious.

I often get questions like that from lawyers as the last in a long string of questions that really have simple yes/no answers. Your opponent is usually hoping you will be caught up in the rhythm of quick question-quick reply and give a quick yes or no when, as Chris pointed out, both harm your position - because both are incorrect.
915) Message boards : Cafe SETI : English is really difficult to learn (Message 1407488)
Posted 25 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Way back in 1970, I had to take the Test of English as a Foreign Language (TEFL) in order to be accepted at a US College. Apparently they were not aware that people other than Americans spoke English. After arriving at said American College, I realized that many US citizens would have had a hard time with the TEFL.
916) Message boards : Politics : Very sad times (Message 1406975)
Posted 23 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Try to keep up boys. Pirate activity off the east of Africa is at a multi-year low. Not because of carriers or convoys, but because of:

satellite production and exchange of information between nations;

multi-national cooperation with small, cost effective surface vessels, helicopters and UAVs (some military, some police, some private);

and political/economic actions at the root causes- i.e. court convictions and addressing poverty and political stability in east Africa.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/01/opinion/global/shutting-down-the-piracy-business.html?_r=0

There are lessons in all this. As I said before, you need to prepare for the next war, not the last one.
917) Message boards : Politics : Very sad times (Message 1406419)
Posted 22 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It was a pure political decision to save money and nothing else.


The main reason for the downfall of the old Soviet Empire was their allowing the military and its supporting industries to make economic decisions without political oversight. We might soon say the same about the downfall of the US Empire.

British troops in Iraq was as the result of Bush pulling the old pals act with the UK, saying we are going in anyway despite the UN saying no, and we "expect" you to join us. Hinting that it might change the special relationship if we refused. But yes it was fuzzy.


Yeah, Bush tried that on Canada as well. We said no, assuming we had earned enough points elsewhere to handle future situations. But then, we don't have a crumbling overseas empire to hold on to. Time will tell if we were right.
918) Message boards : Politics : Very sad times (Message 1406190)
Posted 21 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think Chris meant "you will never see an exact repeat of the Falklands again". The Argentineans could be plotting their next move as we speak, but things have changed.

Chris makes two good points. Satellite surveillance (now a multi-nation undertaking) goes a long way to making an exact repeat of the Falklands much less likely.

Future conflicts are very likely to be multi-national. Like Libya, and Bosnia, and Afghanistan, and.... If you wanted to keep friends on your side for future Falkland-like events, you might consider helping your allies in cases where your short-term national objectives are a little fuzzy. Like British troops in Iraq for example. Or Canadian troops in Afghanistan.

Both these points are good reasons to scrap the carriers and Harriers and spend your limited money elsewhere. Canada scrapped our last carrier in 1970, we got over it.
919) Message boards : Politics : Very sad times (Message 1405930)
Posted 21 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Historically, a lot of time, money and lives have been wasted by militaries that prepared for the last war. The successful ones are planning for the next war.

The root cause for Argentina's defeat in the Falklands is that their policy makers undertook actions that their military could not support. The UK has to decide if the Falkands is still defensible, given the budget realities the UK faces now and in the future.

Back to my question that nobody wants to answer: how much more tax are you willing to pay to keep Harriers and carriers? (Hint: remember that in a democracy you need a majority of voters to agree on your answer to this question.)
920) Message boards : Politics : Very sad times (Message 1405921)
Posted 21 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The med conflict I meant was Libya. The Ark Royal and Harriers were decommissioned on 11th March 2011, UK military action started on 19th March 2011.

I guess I missed the humiliating defeat bit.

Me too.



My point being, did your military really NEED Harriers and carriers, or did they just WANT Harriers and carriers?
921) Message boards : Politics : U.S. Founding Fathers (Message 1405617)
Posted 20 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It becomes a little easier to understand if you remember that the American Revolution was also a civil war. The losing American colonials packed up, moved north, and established the kind of country they had hoped the US colonies would have become. And they were very much supported by the British powers in this, for many years.
922) Message boards : Politics : Very sad times (Message 1405610)
Posted 20 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And Navy experts say they could have done with a carrier and Harriers in recent Med area conflicts, rather than sending planes from Scotland.




They always want more Chris. I rephrase the question: how much more tax are you willing to pay to avoid repeating your humiliating defeat in the recent Med area conflict?

Also, which Med area conflict was that? I guess I missed the humiliating defeat bit.
923) Message boards : Politics : Very sad times (Message 1405556)
Posted 20 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You can't save them all Chris, there isn't enough time or money or dock space. You could publish equally "upsetting" (to somebody) photos of planes, tanks, truck, fire engines, train locomotives, etc. being recycled. I felt a few moments sadness when the last drafting machines left my place of employment back in the 1980s. Where are the drafting machines and slide rules that laid out the lines of the Ark Royal? Why weren't they saved? Where does this stop?

As for the MOD people being ashamed, you should be asking did they get a fair price for the scrap metal? That is what you pay them to do.

How much are you willing to pay in extra taxes to save and maintain the old hardware? I spend a lot of time tracking down "preserved" ex-military aircraft, and often find them disolving in the weeds somewhere because they were "saved" by somebody who didn't understand the upkeep process and costs. That is probably sadder than knowing the airplane had been recycled into something useful.
924) Message boards : Politics : Bilderberg Group (Message 1405550)
Posted 20 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A duplicate thread. Maybe finger trouble on my part, MAYBE A SIGN THAT THEY ARE ON TO US.

Quick, more tinfoil!
925) Message boards : Politics : Bilderberg Group (Message 1405549)
Posted 20 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The fact that we can openly discuss this group without late night visitors proves that this is just a front, meant to distract us from the search for the REAL Secret Organization That Really Runs Everything.

Excuse me, I have to go adjust my tin foil hat now.
926) Message boards : Politics : UK at it again... (Message 1405205)
Posted 19 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So you are saying that abuse of the law resulting in an unlawful detention of an innocent person on purely political grounds is a small incident? Historically, it is exactly this sort of thing that leads to revolutions.

Abuse of the law is abuse of the law. How far would you or I get detaining people because we were pissed off about something?

To be fair, I don't understand the finer workings of UK law. The people responsible for this event should be given the benefit of the doubt, and given their day in court to explain their actions. The courts should also be deciding if it is in the public interest to allow the accused to wander the streets while awaiting their day in court, or if we are all safer with the individuals locked up.

If you are saying that the event was not an abuse of the law, there are slander laws that can be used to prevent people from making untrue accusations. Has the UK government taken any such action yet?
927) Message boards : Politics : Why does the majority of the population (Message 1405156)
Posted 19 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is that the sort of education you'd be happy for your kids to have?



Hey, it got me this far.

My point being we can't let schooling get in the way of education. Schools, by themselves, cannot and do not fully educate a person. There is still a big role for parent(s),and peers, and hard knocks.
928) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1404828)
Posted 18 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, a posting like that would make you Alert, right?
929) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1404823)
Posted 18 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
She would love it Vic. It would put her right to sleep.
930) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1404822)
Posted 18 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Dogs rule. Cats drool.

(The opinions expressed in this post are those of the poster, and do not reflect the opinions of the S@H project, or UC Berkley, or any of their crazy cat loving staff.)
931) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1404511)
Posted 18 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
James, I grew up on airbases, and find airplane sounds help me get to sleep. Whenever I travel on business I try to stay at a hotel right by an airport. No trouble sleeping then.

My father-in-law worked in the round house for 30 years, and my wife grew up in a house very close to a hump yard. She feels the same way about train noises in the night.
932) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I can haz cheezburger??? (Message 1402359)
Posted 12 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Back in the day, a proper Canadian pub glass had a cheat line painted on it. Had to be liquid up to the line, no foam below the line, or you could send the glass back. Saw many an arguement/fight started over cheat lines in my youth.

To put this in perspective for You Kids Today, back when I started legally frequenting Alberta beer halls, a regulation draft beer glass was 8 imperial ounces filled to the line, and the price had just gone up from 20 cents to 25 cents a glass. Many at the time predicted this would mean the End Of Civilization As We Know It. Personally, I was driven to drink.
933) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I can haz cheezburger??? (Message 1401770)
Posted 11 Aug 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Actually Chris, there are lots of bars in Canada that will sell you a real pint, and a few breweries that will sell you a pint bottle. The Metric law in Canada says you need to label the bottle or glass in ml, but there is nothing that stops you from adding another label, and nothing that says the bottle or glass must be some exact size. In most of Quebec you can still buy draft beer by the yard.

934) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Escalators (Message 1396242)
Posted 29 Jul 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Amazing photo Ang. Does this mean that raccoon markings have been evolving for millennia in anticipation of the invention of the escalator? Or is this photo an arguement for Intelligent Design?
935) Message boards : Cafe SETI : San Fran Airport crash (Message 1396238)
Posted 29 Jul 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Exactly Tullio.

Autopilots are designed for different tasks. Saying "all autopilots do this" or "all autopilots can't do that" is like saying "all cars can only go 55 mph because my car does".

A few, very expensive and delicate autopilots have been performing full takeoffs and landings for decades. The average airliner doesn't need this, so it doesn't have this. Even the autoland autopilots are still fairly rare, because of higher initial purchase price and higher in service costs (equipment upkeep, crew training, ground portion of system.)
936) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mel Smith (Message 1393252)
Posted 21 Jul 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That's a shame.

Hopefully they'll use it as an excuse to rerun old episodes of Not The Nine O'Clock News, much better than a lot of modern stuff.


That actually played in Canada for a season or two, and I enjoyed it. Sorry to see him go.
937) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Me think it mazing. (Message 1392698)
Posted 20 Jul 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
They say LED's are better than LCD's, and plasma even better still, but you are talking money. I'm going for an LCD.


Chris, there is a huge variation in picture quality even within different LCDs. Spend some time watching the different brands, with different kinds of shows, before you decide. And make sure they are showing the same kind of broadcast or cable signal you will get, and not some super-duper Blue Ray. On this side of the pond some shops are reluctant to show anything other than their canned shows. I don't shop at them anymore.
938) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Canadian trail derails, starts inferno... (Message 1388703)
Posted 8 Jul 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Latest report on CBC says the crew parked the train on a hill outside of town, and then left for the night. The block of cars seperated two hours later and rolled back into town. I think that last photo shows the loc at the original parking spot, with the burning town in the distance.
939) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Canadian trail derails, starts inferno... (Message 1388681)
Posted 7 Jul 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think that picture shows the fire well behind the loco in the foreground. From pictures on Canadian TV, there were only tank cars in the fire and explosion.

There are a lot of questions to be answered. First one is why did the cars move. As earlier posts said, Canadian cars are mechanically identical to US ones, and operating rules are similar. It appears from initial interviews with the train crew that a block of cars somehow uncoupled from a stopped, manned train. Vandalism is one possibility, but not the only one.

Another very big question is how do you get crude oil to explode? It is usually fairly hard to ignite, and then it usually burns rather than explodes. The cars derailed in a commercial district, maybe a runaway car struck a gas meter or an electrical device. There were still fires burning Sunday PM local time, so it may be a day or two before anybody can answer that one.
940) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : What's new about SETI@home v7 (Message 1387300)
Posted 3 Jul 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So the newbies total credit will be continually crushed by the "oldies" total credit because theirs was accrued by a more generous method than that of the current format. Thus, advancement within the ranks of we newbies, amongst the oldies will take longer and be more cumbersome. Thanks for the heads up.


Um, basic math error here. The "oldies" recieved higher credit for a finite period of time. As time passes this will be a diminishing portion of the total credit awarded. Also, as time passes the "newbies" will be buying faster machines. Nothing continual about it.

Of course, all this only matters if the points actually meant something.
941) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Russian satellite launch goes down in flames.... (Message 1387150)
Posted 3 Jul 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
"Soyuz" refers to the complete vehicle, launcher and capsule. It is a completely different rocket (designed by the same people and built in the same factory) so there is nothing to worry about.....
942) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Anyone know what this might be? (Message 1387147)
Posted 3 Jul 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In Finland there is a very active user group that posts locations of speed cameras (they get moved regularly) and puts out an ap that uses your GPS to alert you of upcoming cameras. I think Finns are issued smart phones when they are born.
943) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Russian satellite launch goes down in flames.... (Message 1386980)
Posted 3 Jul 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


rough translation: "Olympic torch Sochi 2014"
944) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is Canada’s birthday: (Message 1386979)
Posted 3 Jul 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Merci Thomas.
945) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 7 (Message 1386978)
Posted 3 Jul 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, I read all this stuff about how if I drink X beers less per day I will live Y years longer. I'm not clear, Y years longer without beer: is that a reward or a punishment?
946) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Anyone know what this might be? (Message 1386667)
Posted 2 Jul 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think Chris is right, we have similar things on some main highways in Canada.
947) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us a Caption #51 (Message 1386438)
Posted 1 Jul 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That kid is really ugly, but at least he is happy.
948) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is Canada’s birthday: (Message 1386436)
Posted 1 Jul 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Best wishes Canada, eh? And to all our friends too, eh. And the rest of you too.
949) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1386182)
Posted 30 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Quoting Wikipedia (which I know is fraught with hazard): "Green toads are typically a green or yellow in color with black spotting and a cream colored underside." Nothing like the can crusher, which is Kermit green through and through, top to bottom.

The defense rests.
950) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1385937)
Posted 30 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Toads are brown. Frogs are green.
951) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1385175)
Posted 27 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Close enough Chris. It is for drying beer or wine bottles after they have been washed, so you don't dilute the precious fluid about to be put into them. Over to you!

952) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1385101)
Posted 27 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, no new guesses. Gary obviously knows what it is, and was the first to hint at this. If I don't get an answer by tonight I will give the win to him.
953) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1384690)
Posted 26 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris, re-arrange some of the words in your last post and you will have one of the two acceptable correct answers.

Julie - very very close.
954) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1384371)
Posted 24 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris - no.

Julie - close.

Gary and Wiggo obviously have one (or more). But Gary, it doesn't have to be hops....
955) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1384284)
Posted 24 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well that was a totally random win. Here is an easy one, part of my kitchen for decades now.

956) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1384031)
Posted 23 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Saw a set of these in various sizes in Canadian Tire today. (Where all the better Canuck foodies shop.) They are for stacking your Lagostina stainless steel pots and pans.
957) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OK, the BACON thread. (Message 1384011)
Posted 23 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think you mean Due South. I loved that show! Very dry Canadian humour. Another inside Canadian joke from back in the day: when Dief was the Chief, he fixed the Canadian dollar at 98 cents US. We all referred to this as the Diefenbuck.
958) Message boards : Cafe SETI : English is really difficult to learn (Message 1383454)
Posted 21 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Take a look at http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter4/table8.html . The knot is listed under "Non-SI units accepted for use with the SI", and is defined in terms of m/sec. Nothing to do (now anyway) with any miles.
959) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 1000 Km from home. (Message 1383450)
Posted 21 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Assuming this is in Sweden somewhere, I think the trees are more like 40 to 50 years old. Most of the accesible forests in Scandavia are managed, but the industry usually uses the term "tree farm" for the really short turn around stuff, small scale plots that grow in places like the south-east US and South America.

Sten-Arne, in Canada 1000 km is a weekly commute for a lot of forest workers.
960) Message boards : Cafe SETI : English is really difficult to learn (Message 1383356)
Posted 21 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
American measurements, like the American language and spelling, are a mix of British units and new units made up just to be different.

"Communist" seems to be an American code word for "stuff I don't like".

"Knot" as used in aviation is actually an SI unit - it is metric by definition. The SI definition of a knot is 1.150779 miles per hour. Roughly 6,076.115 feet per hour.

People forget how mixed up the world was before metric came along. Every European country had its own definition of a foot and a pound, and they were all slightly different. At least introducing metric boiled this mess down to two very different numbers - Emperial and Metric.

For example, the English press a few centuries ago made great fun of Napoleon for being short - only 5 foot 3. This myth has stuck around to today. In fact, Napoleon was 5 FRENCH feet and 3 FRENCH inches tall, or about 5 foot 9 in modern Emperial and US units. That was pretty average for the day.
961) Message boards : Cafe SETI : English is really difficult to learn (Message 1383198)
Posted 20 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I know it as "Welfare".

All Canadians know that we take the mickey, but it is all in good natured fun, and they know that :-)


We enjoy the friendship.


The kids today call it pogey. I always thought they stole that off some Brit-com on CBC. It sounds vaguely dirty, which made me think it was Brit.

A certain portion of my family calls it "treaty money".
962) Message boards : Cafe SETI : English is really difficult to learn (Message 1383005)
Posted 20 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The story about "Canada" being derived from "Kanata" is generally accepted by historians today, but there is another theory. Seems that after old Jacques had annoyed the locals long enough they pointed upstream and said something else, that roughly translates as "go away".
963) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Father's Day............................. (Message 1382354)
Posted 18 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I was lucky enough to spend Father's Day with my 90 year old father-in-law.

Happy day after Father's Day, especially for all the fathers not with us any more.

And "stumble into it"? Is that what you are calling it in Alberta these days?
964) Message boards : Cafe SETI : English is really difficult to learn (Message 1382353)
Posted 18 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Brits tend to talk very fast, and are sometimes prone to using slang that the rest of the world may not understand. What exactly are goulies? They also use dry humour and irony which can be very confusing if you are not used to it. Canadians sometimes do this a bit as well, which can confuse Americans.

When a Brit or a Canadian says "well, that was great" they probably mean that wasn't great. When an American says "well, that was great" they probably mean that was great. It can be confusing.

Americans tend to talk slowly, which gives us time to figure out any slang they use. They are also very likely to use very simple descriptive terms, which helps in understanding them. They love their TLAs (three letter acronyms) which can take some figuring out.

It is mostly a matter of practice. We still have a few pockets of strong regional dialects in Eastern Canada, I'm told they talk like Ireland or the Scottish Highlands 200 years ago. I grew up with this, so don't even notice it anymore. But Americans might ask me what language that guy is speaking. And I've had Brits say "you told me he was Canadian, I think he's Irish".
965) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1378972)
Posted 9 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Vancouver to Montreal: 3003 miles (mostly in the US)


And from Montreal it a long day's drive to the East Coast. Map Quest makes Vancouver to Halifax as 3854 miles, again taking the short cut through the US. This is a big place!
966) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1378364)
Posted 8 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Everybody is interested, as long as somebody else pays. That sums up Canadian passenger train planning for the last 40 years.

The train from Vancouver to Eastern Canada hasn't been CN for several decades. Unless you take one of the high priced tourist trains, the Via Rail passenger train through the Rockies now runs at night, to free up the tracks in prime time for the money makers.
967) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1378350)
Posted 7 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Via Rail should change over to HSR, the Chinese do it over long distances and yeah it's done from Germany down to Spain.


A little hard to afford or to justify in a country bigger than China but with only 3.5% the population.
968) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST PIES IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1378349)
Posted 7 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
An old running gag that goes back to the prewar Popeye comic strip. It was prominent in the 1950s cartoons as well.

969) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The train thread (Message 1378277)
Posted 7 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For all you Euros (and Brits) it should be noted that there are lots of short distance passenger trains in North America, usually funded at a level below Federal, usually very busy, and usually breaking even (with the government subsidies). What we don't have is long distance inter-city trains with any future.

Don't have recent experience with Amtrak, but the Canadian equivalent is Via Rail. They seem to be slipping into the same death spiral as Amtrak: they will cut services and schedules until ridership picks up. And we taxpayers pay the managers big bucks to reach these decisions.

Today most Via Rail travel in Canada matches the cheap air fares, to the dollar. Sure, you get more leg room and less invasive security on the train, but I have a choice of two trains a day to the nearest big city, or 8 flights a day on two different airlines.

Long distance freight trains in Canada make big bucks, and make more every time the price of diesel goes up. To the managers of the railroads, passengers are a money losing pain in the neck that the government forces them to put up with. It will take a major change in government funding and policy to end the slow slide of long distance passenger trains into oblivion.
970) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST PIES IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1378272)
Posted 7 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I did!
971) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I suddenly feel old. (Message 1376802)
Posted 5 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Going in the other direction....

A few years ago I was digging through a box of family photos looking for something I never found. What I did find was my 4th grade class photo, from 1961. My son (born in 1988) was in the back row, third from the left. It was scary.
972) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVII - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1376281)
Posted 4 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Looks like a very civilized way to work Richard.
973) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I LOVE SETI@HOME ! (Message 1375665)
Posted 3 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
hhmmm,... I love my wife and my children.


Well yeah. Them too.
974) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I LOVE SETI@HOME ! (Message 1375432)
Posted 2 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
+1 to all the above.
975) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti heat detection? (Message 1375366)
Posted 2 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All existence is a theory. I can never claim that my understanding of anything is identical to your understanding of the same subject.

We make do by finding the theories that serve a purpose. Engineers are famous for using theories (like Engineer's Bending) that we know are not accurate, but serve a purpose. I suspect physicists are similar, they just won't admit it. ;)
976) Message boards : Cafe SETI : train safety (Message 1375361)
Posted 2 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
North American railways are a mix of various companies and operating theories that eventually spread out and intersected with each other. Any system wide updates are just too expensive to be done quickly.

The work around to this (at least in Canada) is to regularly assign operating crews to a fairly small section of track. A train may go from coast to coast, but it gets a new crew every few hundred miles. That crew only and always operates the same section of track. They know the local signals very well, and don't care if things are different in the next block over.

There are a few exceptions to this, where a specific section of track has been built for a single purpose. The unit coal trains that operate between several mines in the BC interior and the west coast use dedicated tracks, with uniform signals all the way. Here a single crew will run 600 miles or more, from the mine to the port, without stopping. They then switch out engines as the train drives through the unloading section, without actually stopping the train (it is moving very slowly at this point). The engines stop for servicing and crew change, before hooking up to the next unit train. The freight cars regularly go from mine to port and back to the mine without stopping.
977) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who is The doc's new companion ??? (Message 1375077)
Posted 2 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Have you seen the last episode? I only ask because some networks run this at different times, and I don't want to spoil it for anybody.

Final hint: watch the last few minutes of the last episode of this season.

No, I missed it :(


I figured that when you asked that question. Any chance you will see it before next season starts in November?
978) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who is The doc's new companion ??? (Message 1375060)
Posted 1 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Have you seen the last episode? I only ask because some networks run this at different times, and I don't want to spoil it for anybody.

Final hint: watch the last few minutes of the last episode of this season.
979) Message boards : Cafe SETI : train safety (Message 1374918)
Posted 1 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That would be fun, watching a train use those to stop at a level crossing to let a car go by. It would be really exciting at one of the dozen or so level crossings in the downtown where I live.

(ps - I know of what you speak. Used to hang out with the test guys at Northrop.)
980) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti heat detection? (Message 1374916)
Posted 1 Jun 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Did they explain how they would finds a slightly warmer planet so close to a really hot star? The angular distance between a planet and its star, at interstellar distances, is, for all practical purposes, zero.
981) Message boards : Cafe SETI : train safety (Message 1373947)
Posted 31 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Around here a busy rail crossing sees dozens or hundreds of cars per hour, and maybe 20 or 30 trains a day. And most of those are very long and heavy freights (thousands or tens of thousands of tons). Stopping a train for a car would be very impractical, if not impossible.

As Bernie said, the long term solution is to get rid of level crossings (as we call them hereabouts). All that takes is time and money.

A short term solution used hereabouts is to limit train travel to off-peak road traffic hours.
982) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Prepare for the weeping and wailing of single women everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Message 1372428)
Posted 27 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, that is the end of life as you know it.
983) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST PIES IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1371973)
Posted 25 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hmmm, I find italian wines generally a bit rough and harsh on the palette, but to be honest I have never had a real up market one. I do remember liking a quite old Chianti Classico a few years ago though. But like Chateau Neuf Du Pape you have to pay £40 plus to find a really good one. That is out of my league for everyday drinking. If you know of a decent smooth Italian red wine under a tenner I might be tempted to try it.




You should try Montepulciano d'Abruzzo, heaven...


Agreed! It has become our everyday plonk. $12 Canadian (about 7.70 UK pounds) for 1.5 litres.
984) Message boards : Cafe SETI : English is really difficult to learn (Message 1371504)
Posted 24 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
True dat.
985) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVII - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1370788)
Posted 23 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We keep a plastic bin full of various bird seeds in the garage, with a tight fitting lid to keep the mice out. Last week the lid was left off, and the garage door open, for a few hours while we worked outside. The next day my wife opened the lid to get some bird seed, and a very anxious chipmunk came out at a high rate of speed (my wife used a much more colourful term). We now open the lid and stand well back.
986) Message boards : Cafe SETI : English is really difficult to learn (Message 1370787)
Posted 23 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The next step after Jim's excellent suggestions:

Be prepared for local variations.
987) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 7 (Message 1370620)
Posted 22 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There are a few dozen double IPAs from North American microbreweries these days. They are like a regular IPA, with 3 times to 10 times the hops. The best are very good, the worst are still OK.
988) Message boards : Cafe SETI : English is really difficult to learn (Message 1370619)
Posted 22 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If you can find the book, it is really quite good. The Doctor was a political cartoonist, and did cartoons for ads, for years before he started writing the children's books.
989) Message boards : Cafe SETI : English is really difficult to learn (Message 1370612)
Posted 22 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
990) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I suddenly feel old. (Message 1369831)
Posted 19 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You are only young once, but you can always be immature.

-famous Canadian philosopher Red Green.
991) Message boards : Cafe SETI : English is really difficult to learn (Message 1369830)
Posted 19 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
When I was younger I did a stint at the CBC as an announcer. Back in the old days we had word lists to teach us the official CBC version of English.


Examples please?
992) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Filing charges against aliens? (Message 1369829)
Posted 19 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Savoir Faire is everywhere...


993) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OK, the BACON thread. (Message 1369828)
Posted 19 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Spent yesterday at an event called Pork Fest. Seriously.

A nice little butcher shop in Sharbot Lake, Ontario puts on this event every year. They share their front lawn with the church and small business next door, put up a tent, and have local food and craft vendors as well. Pigs on a spit, hand made salads, local beers and wine and a local live band, all in the open air. Very enjoyable.

But the highlight was visiting the butcher shop when we left. We picked up some chipotle bacon on the way out, and had it for breakfast today. Just amazing.
994) Message boards : Cafe SETI : English is really difficult to learn (Message 1369197)
Posted 18 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The Official Government Approved Method of getting around the he/she dilemma in Canada is to use they/their for the singular as well as the plural.

"If a person can't finish their job by 4 o'clock, they need to work harder."

That is official Canadian English.
995) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OK, the BACON thread. (Message 1369196)
Posted 18 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A little bakery in a nearby town makes bacon butter tarts. Picture a raisin butter tart, but replace the raisins with chunks of bacon. I love them.
996) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Filing charges against aliens? (Message 1369195)
Posted 18 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Loosely related:

Didn't somebody try to name God in a law suit recently, only to have the Courts reject the case because the plaintiff couldn't prove the existence of God?

I think you would have a similar problem suing aliens. "Provide an address to the bailiff please, so the papers can be served."
997) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1368459)
Posted 16 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For washing fruit?
998) Message boards : Cafe SETI : English is really difficult to learn (Message 1368327)
Posted 16 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is more than slang. My wife used to teach English as a Second Language, and she tells me that many of the English speaking countries of the world have their own local versions of English. Some are quite official, like in India, with their own government approved rules and grammars. The main point is that one English speaker can usually figure out what another English speaker is saying, even if the languages are not completely identical.

As Winston Churchill said many years ago, "England and America are two countries separated by a common language".
999) Message boards : Cafe SETI : English is really difficult to learn (Message 1368311)
Posted 16 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Please forgive me for coming to this thread late, I've been busy.

Chris, Canada has AT LEAST 2 official languages, sometimes 3 or 4 depending on where you are. What do we all speak when we are confused? English. Why? Because English has a long history of flexibility, and incorporating the best of other languages.

Years ago, I worked for a German company that merged with a French company. There was a lot of history behind the selection of a common language to work in. The final solution? The company now officially works in English.

Zahoa, your English teachers may not agree with me, but English is becoming a blend of everything else. On the one hand, this makes it hard to learn: strange spellings, strange grammar, unless you understand that is takes bits and pieces of everybody else's spelling and grammar.

On the other hand, I predict that this means we (all the people of the world) will one day speak a common language sort of like English (but not exactly like English). I know that the Chinese speakers outnumber us, but I think their base language lacks the flexibility to become every one's language.

Meanwhile, in a certain French speaking part of Canada, the government tried to force local restaurants to find a French word for "pasta". Nobody could think of one. To me, this is just another sign that French (and a number of other languages) are on their way out, to be replaced by New Blended English.

PS: the Canadian English word for "pasta" is "pasta". I like mine al dente. I assure you that 99%+ of Canadian English speakers know what that means.
1000) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1368309)
Posted 16 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris S was a man, forgot he was a winner,
But we knew he had to post.
Chris S, find a salad spinner,
Put it up for us to guess.



And after reading that, all I can hear is John Lennon singing....

Don't let me down, don't let me down...
1001) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Major Tom, revised (Message 1368308)
Posted 16 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yep gets my vote Well done N.A.S.A


More like well done C.S.A. and Chris Hatfield.
1002) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stanley Cup (Message 1367591)
Posted 13 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
How about those Leafs?!?!?!?!

It's like the glory days of the 20th century. They barely make it through 7 games in the first round. Then, the few survivors, battered and bruised, will tank in 4 games in the next round. Ah, the good old days....
1003) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OK, the BACON thread. (Message 1366935)
Posted 11 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I had a bacon and brie croissant for breakfast today, from a small bakery in a local market. It was wonderful.
1004) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The giant spaceship on the moon (Message 1366929)
Posted 11 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, those fuzzy black and white images have me convinced. After all, they couldn't put it on the Interweb if it wasn't real.
1005) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST PIES IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1363961)
Posted 3 May 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What Chris said. Peppermint is green.

Angela, you don't eat the flowers, you eat the green leaves. Well, I guess you could eat the flowers, but the flavour (note the correct spelling) is in the leaves. The GREEN leaves.
1006) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stanley Cup (Message 1363015)
Posted 30 Apr 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Its been nine years since I could say this during the playoffs, and this may be my last chance this century - so:

GO LEAFS!
1007) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who is The doc's new companion ??? (Message 1360016)
Posted 22 Apr 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think she first appeared in a previous episode as the girl who didn't realize her brain was trapped in a Darlek ("Asylum of the Darleks"). She later appeared in the 2012 Christmas special as a Victorian bar maid who runs away with the Doctor but later dies.

I think the premise of this season is the Doctor wants to know why she keeps turning up. Remember Donna Noble, and the previous Doctor trying to figure out why she was special? Sort of the same thing here, I think.
1008) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1358043)
Posted 18 Apr 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The OTHER button on the remote! The OTHER button!!

And for those who have been there...

Fort Churchill fire drill.
1009) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1357867)
Posted 17 Apr 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Part of an ice cream maker?
1010) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1357763)
Posted 17 Apr 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Gundolf Jahn has decided to post the answer in the discussion thread. Yes it is a tea bag squeezer. Therefore I am left with no alternative but to award him the win. I am not happy with the way that this has been concluded, and I will reserve my judgement as to whether I participate in future.

PM sent.


Lighten up Chris. Gundolf was just pointing out that the same picture had been previously used. When this has happened in the past we have allowed the last winner to find a new picture. Judges?
1011) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVII - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1356074)
Posted 12 Apr 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes!


Good to see you back here Celt.
1012) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I suddenly feel old. (Message 1356070)
Posted 12 Apr 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have stumbled upon an article about my first digital computer! It was in 1967, and it didn't use electricity. It used rubber bands. The kit was a birthday present from my parents, it took about a week to assemble, and another week to become boring. But, it introduced me to boolean logic and register shifts. It also did simple addition and subtraction. The photo shows a red one, my memory says mine was blue, but who knows? It was a long time ago.

Basic specs: 3 bits. That's all there is to say.

http://boingboing.net/2006/02/21/mechanical-computer.html
1013) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I suddenly feel old. (Message 1354537)
Posted 8 Apr 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I briefly worked on programming an 8086 back in about 1983. Ironically, its purpose was error detection in an analog control circuit.
1014) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVII - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1353014)
Posted 3 Apr 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Q: what do you call the brown gooey stuff between an elephant's toes?

A: slow heynas.
1015) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVII - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1352556)
Posted 31 Mar 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Under Toronto bylaws it is illegal for unlicensed people to intentionally kill a raccoon (or any wildlife) in city limits except when the person is in personal danger from the animal. And then be prepared for a long discussion with the bylaw people before they let you off. Licenced pest removal people must remove the wildlife to an approved area outside the city, unless it is injured or rabid. Then they must kill it per a limited list of allowed methods. Removals are billed by the hour, and can run to thousands of dollars.

Yeah they are cute, but they can cause considerable property damage. A few years back my sister and her husband got stuck with $5K+ in repair bills, plus a removal fee, after a family of raccoons moved into their attic. Their house insurance declined to pay ANY of it, because they waited too long to hire a removal guy.
1016) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I suddenly feel old. (Message 1349708)
Posted 23 Mar 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Any part of the world which was at some time part of the British Empire is left hand and any part colonised by the French is right hand. Them French got a lot of explaining to do :-)

LH drive


Sorry Chris, but the message in that link has "arranged" history to fit their theory. The original 13 United States were all former British colonies. 3 of the 4 original Canadian provinces were ex-British colonies. The French influence in North America started small, and got smaller with time. It was virtually zero by the time Napoleon started to get uppity.

The whole right versus left thing has mostly been accidental in the past, IMHO. Today the majority rules, and things are changing (like in former British colonies like Ghana, Nigeria and Sierra Leone that have all switched from left to right). Just an observation: China drives on the right, India drives on the left. It will be interesting to see who wins out in the long run.
1017) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1345537)
Posted 11 Mar 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ah, that would explain this...

1018) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Yess Yess !! (Message 1345128)
Posted 10 Mar 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I missed this a little bit in Skyfall.


Hey, for us old guys Dame Judy is HOT.

1019) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1344319)
Posted 9 Mar 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, where will YOU be sleeping tonight?
1020) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1343351)
Posted 6 Mar 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is that Theodore Edward Bear?


I haven't heard from Edward Bear in many years.
1021) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You couldn't make it up (Message 1343159)
Posted 5 Mar 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
... is there a Raccoon party?


Yes. Whenever two or more racoons get together with a bottle.

1022) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1342425)
Posted 2 Mar 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
John has it. Take it away.
1023) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1342263)
Posted 2 Mar 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
One could probably make juice or tornados with it, but that is not its intended purpose.
1024) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1342246)
Posted 1 Mar 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not a salad spinner.

Julie and John are headed in the correct direction, but not there. It has a proper name, for those in the know.
1025) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1342095)
Posted 1 Mar 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, here is any easy one.

1026) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen Tool three (Message 1342043)
Posted 1 Mar 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For squeezing / picking up a tea bag.
1027) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussing the disgusting (Message 1341732)
Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Mushrooms on anything - sounds good to me.

Liver - no problem.

Kidneys - not my favorite, but bareable.

Pineapple on pizza - NFW!!!
1028) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussing the disgusting (Message 1341508)
Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Pineapple on a pizza, now that's disgusting to Me.


And to me.
1029) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News IV (Message 1340927)
Posted 26 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thank you Michael! Now, how did you know about my fascination with aircraft registrations?
1030) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You couldn't make it up (Message 1340784)
Posted 25 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Vote Raccoon!
1031) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You couldn't make it up (Message 1340709)
Posted 25 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Like many things in Canada, our politics are sometimes a watered down version of what goes on in the UK. Here's two that have run locally where I am, there may be others...

The Natural Law Party, aka the Flying Yoga Party, got an astounding 0.63% of the popular vote in 1993, thats tens of thousands of people who thought magician Doug Henning should be our Prime Minister. Downhill since.

The Rhinoceros Party, reformed a few years ago, don't seem to be as much fun as the 1980s version, which really knew how to, um, Party. Got 0.02% of the vote in 2011 nationally, but as high as 0.6% in fun loving parts of Quebec.

And the usual assortment of right wing crazies like the Christian Reform, mostly Dutch people

and the just plain goofy: Pirate Party, Radical Marijuana Party, the Canadian Extreme Wrestling Party, etc.

We still have a Communist party, they actually had a sitting member of Parliament back in the 50s and 60s.
1032) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #40 (Message 1339658)
Posted 20 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Soar
1033) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Potato Crisps (Message 1339657)
Posted 20 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I fully agree with Chris. The plain, salt only, chips (as we Colonials call them) are hard to find, but they are still out there if you look.

I think the flavoured ones use a lot of synthetic flavours, and that is what turns me off. Love artifical cherry and artifical banana, but everything else brings images of test tubes and oil refineries to mind when I eat it.

1034) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A General Discussion of Phobias (Message 1339490)
Posted 20 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Skildude, the problem is not the fall. It is the sudden stop at the end.
1035) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #40 (Message 1339151)
Posted 17 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
saucers
1036) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friday afternoon asteroid pass........ (Message 1338512)
Posted 15 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The event in Russia is more common than you think, much more common than the big asteroid passing. We hear little or nothing about most meteor explosions in the atmosphere because most of them occur where there is no property or no humans. There is a group of astronomers here in Canada using a network of microphones to triangulate high altitude explosions like this, and they regularly locate explosions that nobody else reports.

There will be more of these kinds of events reported as time passes as there are fewer unpopulated areas. We see the same thing happening with weather events in rural Canada. Where I grew up in central Alberta gets a few tornadoes every spring. For years nobody cared, because all they did was flatten the odd wheat field or tear up a bit of fence. In the last 20 years these have been more likely to hit towns and villages, just because there are now more towns and villages spread across the prairies.

And finally, here's one for the conspiracy theories. A Russian web site claims their government tried to shoot down whatever it was, and that caused most of the damage.
1037) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Valentines Day (Message 1338079)
Posted 14 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
+2
1038) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #40 (Message 1338078)
Posted 14 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
hex
1039) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #40 (Message 1337902)
Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
together
1040) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1337756)
Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
(Cat and sheep speaking at the same time): Doctor, I've got this funny lump on my ....
1041) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #40 (Message 1337754)
Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
farm
1042) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #40 (Message 1337603)
Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
blade
1043) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #40 (Message 1337431)
Posted 12 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
top
1044) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #40 (Message 1337046)
Posted 11 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
exam
1045) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #40 (Message 1337032)
Posted 11 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
geometry
1046) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1336913)
Posted 11 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That looks like what we keep Aunt Mable in. But she's not in the kitchen, so it can't be that.

Is it for holding spices?
1047) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A General Discussion of Phobias (Message 1336912)
Posted 11 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
John, your acrophobia sounds like mine. I have a great fear of heights, when the heights are the kind our species evolved through: climbing trees, going up ladders, standing on chairs, etc. scares me very deeply. For several years I made my living sitting in the doorway or standing on the skids of helicopters while running the hoist and other devices. It was great fun, until we got down to about 20 feet above ground. Then the fear set in.

I also have a great fear of people who claim they want to talk about politics but actually want to talk about their illogical belief in unsupportable theories. Does that have a name?
1048) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #40 (Message 1336800)
Posted 10 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
memories
1049) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1335593)
Posted 7 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All very good ones, hard to pick.

3rd place to Soft, "Ha! I know a short cuuuaaaaaaa"

2nd to rob smith "STOPPPP -that's my caaaaaaarrrrrrrrr [splat....]"

And first to the Kitty Man with the very philosophical "Uhh....what was that bit about taking 'the road less travelled' again?"

PM going out.
1050) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1335591)
Posted 7 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
ethereal
1051) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1335311)
Posted 7 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hocked on Fonics wurked fer me. Kant u tel?
1052) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1335310)
Posted 7 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wow! Twice this year already! Thanks John.

OK, here is something on my mind these days...

1053) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1335053)
Posted 6 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You should see what we've done with the basement.
1054) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1335051)
Posted 6 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I overeat when I'm stressed, or not stressed, or when I'm bored.

A teacher once told me find the one thing you can do, and do it well.
1055) Message boards : Number crunching : How low can you go? (Message 1334926)
Posted 5 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just an observation: I haven't downloaded any WU for several days, AND my RAC appears to be frozen. (I know this because I hit the update button several times a day :))

Maybe something is on hold with the servers, while Eric and Co. work on other stuff?
1056) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1334581)
Posted 4 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Corn husker?
1057) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1334580)
Posted 4 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
rare
1058) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1333395)
Posted 1 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If Godot doesn't show up , maybe his brother-in-law will.
1059) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1333394)
Posted 1 Feb 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
overwhelm
1060) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1333160)
Posted 31 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
tune
1061) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread (Message 1332960)
Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
borehole -> log

All you petroleum engineers out there will get that one. You keep a log of soil conditions, rock type, moisture, etc. at different depths as you drill, everybody calls that the borehole log. Generally a boring task, assigned to a junior engineer.
1062) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1332958)
Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
log
1063) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1332878)
Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
frontal
1064) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1332791)
Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But are we still having fun?
1065) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1332790)
Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, lots of good entries. I'm always amazed at the different directions people take in these.

Third place is a tie, with the theme I had had in mind:
Carlos with "What do you call a seat that costs less than standby?"
Skildude with "Some of the smaller carriers have taken shortcuts in safety. Not at Southwest Air, we provide alternate safety gear at no additional cost"

Heading in directions I wouldn't have thought, Chris gets 2nd place with "
Johns fantasy of bondage with a Stewardess, wasn't working so well ....."

And 1st place to Michael Roberts, with the totally unexpected "The 'cellists of the LSO now disguise their instruments as incapacitated passengers to get round stricter airline regulations."

PM going out soon.
1066) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1332785)
Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
pigs
1067) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1332509)
Posted 29 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
dinosaur
1068) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1332499)
Posted 29 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thank you Angela. Keeping with the "I need a lawyer" theme,

1069) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1332210)
Posted 28 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winner! I told you it was easy.

PM sent.
1070) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1332209)
Posted 28 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We demand to speak to our lawyer!
1071) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1332133)
Posted 28 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
fair
1072) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1332090)
Posted 27 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Does the round end have a magnet for attaching to a refrigerator?


Some might, the ones I've used do not.
1073) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1332084)
Posted 27 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Carlos. Saw one of those in a shop a few weeks ago. Here is an easy one. What is it used for?

1074) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1332071)
Posted 27 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is a bottle opener. Look at the shadow of the end of the tail.
1075) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1331728)
Posted 26 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
flies
1076) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread (Message 1331727)
Posted 26 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

+1
I was force fed so much of that garbage as a child, I haven't eaten a single bite in over 20 years. Still wouldn't


There is a lot of bad bologna out there, usually packaged from the big food factories. There is also some excellent bologna, made by small shops using good basic ingredients, that is to die for. The really good stuff is great when it is cut about 1/4 inch thick, and then lightly pan fried.
1077) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery landscape game #2 (Message 1331723)
Posted 26 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Central America?
1078) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1331654)
Posted 26 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


That guy looks just like my doctor...


Do you mean the one with the glasses, or the other one?
1079) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1331653)
Posted 26 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, OK. But if Lucky starts dancing again, I'm leaving.
1080) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1331651)
Posted 26 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
extravagant
1081) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery landscape game #2 (Message 1330998)
Posted 25 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hoodoos, near Drumheller, Alberta.
1082) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1330869)
Posted 24 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Probably not the answer you are looking for, but whenever I see that (and I see it all too often) I think "If you can't park it, why did you buy it?"
1083) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1330867)
Posted 24 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
tales
1084) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussing the disgusting (Message 1330864)
Posted 24 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
... which reminds me of a really gross story.

A few years ago I went to the edge of Phoenix to inspect a burnt piece of machinery. It was at a feed lot which was slowly being surrounded by new suburbs. The burnt machine had been dragged around the back, out of sight, near where they piled up the downers (These are cows that have died of natural causes, they can't be sold, so they just pile them up till they have a truck full to take to the dump.) As we drove past the downers, we scared off a pack of dogs that were stuffing themselves on week old dead cow left out in the Arizona sun. I figured them for ferals, but as they ran past I could see they were all healthy, well groomed, and wearing collars.

They all ran back towards the nearest suburb. I could just picture them running home, and licking their owners' faces...
1085) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1330700)
Posted 24 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
hearth
1086) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1330545)
Posted 24 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
tea
1087) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1330191)
Posted 22 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
augment
1088) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1330159)
Posted 22 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Looks like a nose over at relatively low speed. Probably repairable, and the intial accident was obviously survivable. Most seaplane fatalities happen in the few minutes after the crash. People get out of the wreck, and discover they can't swim, or can't swim for more than a few minutes in cold water. Warm Aussie water is a blessing in this case, and it looks like they were close to help. Still, not the kind of flight one hopes for.

Just noticed the airplane sitting on the wheels after being pulled out. Did they land on the water with the gear down? A classic seaplane accident scenario.
1089) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1330157)
Posted 22 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
jeweled
1090) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1330002)
Posted 22 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
bulbous
1091) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1329915)
Posted 21 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Training them to not bite only works if the punishment is immediate and consistent.


Just like with children!
1092) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1329914)
Posted 21 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
monkeys
1093) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 39 (Message 1329814)
Posted 21 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
rally
1094) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1329638)
Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For cooking eggs in a microwave?
1095) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 6 (Message 1329570)
Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Surely it depends on who's boot it is?

1096) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread (Message 1329569)
Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I used Niagara - peninsula, since everybody around here calls it a peninsula. But when I look at it on a map, it looks to me like more of an isthmus. If a river down the middle makes it a peninsula, or actually two peninsulas side by side, why isn't Panama a peninsula?

These things keep me awake at night.
1097) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1329567)
Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
peninsula
1098) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1329526)
Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
horse
1099) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1329525)
Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A very moooving picture.
1100) Message boards : News : Servers are back on line after Monday's outage (Message 1329523)
Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Sorry to hear, if that's what they feel there soon will be no one left to lend them time and computing power.


Except for the majority of current users, who never look closely at their stats, never view these forums, and are blissfully ignorant of all the alleged problems here.

And in any case, Chris and I (and a few others) will always be here.

Al Capone, if you don't like what is happening here, there are lots of other projects that would love to use your computing power. Be warned though, they are all just as prone to problems and interruptions as S@H.
1101) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1329446)
Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
damper
1102) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery landscape game (Message 1329434)
Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Louisiana?
1103) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Latest news on the Spitfires buried in Burma........ (Message 1329433)
Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I haven't commented on this thread since it started, because I've seen this before, time and time again, and didn't want to look like a wet blanket.

What is happening here? The aviation world is full of dreamers, who head off on wild goose chases on the barest of information. This is true of people looking for old airplanes, and people trying to make new airplanes. I know because I've been working both kinds of dreamers for about 40 years. Most of these dreamers are well intentioned, and one in a hundred makes their dream come true. What we have here, I'm afraid, is one of the other 99.
1104) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1329432)
Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Aren't ferrets related to weasels and minks? Having spent a few days working on a relatives mink farm, I think that pound for pound NOTHING is nastier than a mink. And oh yeah, they can bite.
1105) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1329431)
Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
precipice
1106) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1329224)
Posted 19 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
song
1107) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1329222)
Posted 19 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
prime
1108) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1328468)
Posted 18 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
for grinding dried spices?
1109) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1328465)
Posted 18 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
revamp
1110) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1328272)
Posted 17 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
gutter
1111) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1328110)
Posted 17 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
table
1112) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1328109)
Posted 17 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Everybody was close, but J. Mercer hit it directly. Over to you J.

The last few have gone very quickly. Have we actually exhausted the inventory of obscure kitchen tools?
1113) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1328062)
Posted 16 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Invented in 2008? Really? They taught us to carve our own back in boy scout camp in 1962.

Anyway, this used to be essential in everybody's kitchen, and is still essential in some.

1114) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1328046)
Posted 16 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yikes that was a shot in the dark. Thanking you. I'll be right back with a goodie.

Ok, here we go.

*What is it?
*What do you use it for?
*Bonus for the name



I have seen similar (but less fancy) hunks of wood used to take lids off of old fashioned metal pots over a fire. The kind of lid with a wire loop handle. As for the name, it should be "stick for taking hot lids off of pots", but marketing probably gave it some other name.
1115) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1327806)
Posted 16 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Arabesque
1116) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1327805)
Posted 16 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yeah, I mailed a bunch of checks that must have been on that truck. Honest.
1117) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1327733)
Posted 16 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
position
1118) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1327726)
Posted 15 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
action
1119) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Waiting for Godot (Message 1327699)
Posted 14 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
He should be here shortly.
1120) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1327535)
Posted 14 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very quick J! You got it.
1121) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1327498)
Posted 14 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Praise and elation are all well and good, but I was hoping for cash. Oh well, here is an ESSENTIAL part of a complete kitchen:

1122) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1327446)
Posted 13 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Some sort of air purifier or smoke remover?
1123) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1327278)
Posted 13 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
resonant
1124) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1327195)
Posted 12 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
cat
1125) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1327152)
Posted 12 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
hammer
1126) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1327123)
Posted 12 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
encourage
1127) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1326658)
Posted 11 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
milk
1128) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1326509)
Posted 11 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
dirt
1129) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussing the disgusting (Message 1326368)
Posted 10 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Agreed. It should also be shiney. Around here, this time of year,there should be steam rising off of it as well.
1130) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1326367)
Posted 10 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
unplug
1131) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1326259)
Posted 10 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Public
1132) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussing the disgusting (Message 1326258)
Posted 10 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Fresh meadow muffins, anyone?


That's not disgusting. That's organic.
1133) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1325792)
Posted 8 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
earl
1134) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussing the disgusting (Message 1325791)
Posted 8 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
When I was in high school I worked a summer in a tannery.

Almost disgusting enough to turn a person off of leather. Almost. :P


My sister was briefly a plant nurse in a meat packing plant back in the 1970s. It turned her vegetarian for several years.

Speaking of disgusting, howe about NHL salaries? And they had the nerve to go on strike?
1135) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery landscape game (Message 1325772)
Posted 8 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
South of France?
1136) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Latest news on the Spitfires buried in Burma........ (Message 1325771)
Posted 8 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry I wasn't clearer Bernie. The Spitfire that had the "incident" yesterday is owned by Rolls Royce.
1137) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Latest news on the Spitfires buried in Burma........ (Message 1325654)
Posted 8 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hope they succeed as we're now another Spitfire down.......

Spitfire undercarriage collapse


From my sources on the Internet, Brit TV is over-reporting the story, Skynet called it a "firey crash". It was one gear leg folding during the landing run out, no fire, no injuries. The Rolls Royce Spitfire is repairable.
1138) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1325598)
Posted 7 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
hedge
1139) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1325406)
Posted 6 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Newfoundland (part of Canada, eh).

1140) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1325381)
Posted 6 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In Quebec.

1141) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1325114)
Posted 6 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
spout
1142) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy New Year From Our Home To Yours (Message 1324772)
Posted 5 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Happy New Year everyone.
1143) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Anti Discussion (Message 1324771)
Posted 5 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What is an alien? Aren't we all a little alien?

What is ancient? Well, me I guess. The rest of you damn kids are on your own.
1144) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1324770)
Posted 5 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
fireplace
1145) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1324594)
Posted 4 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
shovel
1146) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of discussion threads (Message 1324118)
Posted 3 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here it is January, and the Leafs are tied for first! I haven't been able to say that for over 40 years!

Just for the Canadians, eh. The rest of you might catch on after reading this.
1147) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Anti Discussion (Message 1324115)
Posted 3 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What is energy? It doesn't matter.

What is matter? Don't waste energy on that.
1148) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner 2012.................... (Message 1323984)
Posted 3 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think it is time to go to a mandolin next... and hope I keep my knuckles.


It's not the knuckles, it is the finger tips. My daughter has the scars to prove it, plus a total fear of mandolins several years later.
1149) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Anti Discussion (Message 1323467)
Posted 2 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yeah, I hear you. Or not.
1150) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Anti Discussion (Message 1323465)
Posted 2 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I can neither confirm nor deny that this thread exists.
1151) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1323415)
Posted 2 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
dastard
1152) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 38 (Message 1323243)
Posted 1 Jan 2013 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Cane
1153) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1322651)
Posted 31 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm late to the strange names games, but I feel I have to point out that within an hour's drive of me are the following towns:

Punkydoodle Corners
Skunk Hollow
Paris
Zurich
Hannover
Dresden
Waterloo
York
Windsor
Wyoming
Petrolia
Delhi
Puslinch
and...
Dunnville (a real quiet place)

I live in London - no, not THAT London.
1154) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1322648)
Posted 31 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
corduroy
1155) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1322496)
Posted 31 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
shop
1156) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1322482)
Posted 31 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
knight
1157) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1320793)
Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There is something about the North American great plains that makes people give towns funny names...

1158) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1320792)
Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
ganders
1159) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1320609)
Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I TOLD you to clean out the back seat.
1160) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1320452)
Posted 27 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
fry
1161) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1320235)
Posted 26 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
steel
1162) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1320128)
Posted 26 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
power
1163) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link Discussion Thread (Message 1319629)
Posted 24 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I like to go with the first thing that pops into my mind. "Animals" started me humming:

Animal crackers in my soup
Lions and tigers loop the loop

Anybody know the rest of the words?
1164) Message boards : Cafe SETI : peanut butter sandwiches (Message 1319626)
Posted 24 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Marmite is new to me, never heard of it before...



Me too.


Isn't it similar to what the Aussies call Vegamite?
1165) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1319625)
Posted 24 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
crackers
1166) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1319502)
Posted 24 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
tires
1167) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1319428)
Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Used
1168) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1319273)
Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
redundant
1169) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery landscape game (Message 1319272)
Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
central Africa?
1170) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1318933)
Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
fence
1171) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1318888)
Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
record
1172) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1318868)
Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I thought I explained this to your guys. The free calendar the Chinese restaurant gave me last year runs out on 31 December. Clearly, that is when the world will end.
1173) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Let it snow! (But go away promptly!) (Message 1318866)
Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Snow on the ground for two days in a row, forecasts highs of less than zero for the next few days. Might get a White Christmas!

It can all melt right after that.
1174) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1318865)
Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
dance
1175) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1317955)
Posted 21 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
pinata
1176) Message boards : Cafe SETI : peanut butter sandwiches (Message 1317953)
Posted 21 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I am glad to have been introduced to fritessaus on my fries. Regular or curry.

1177) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1317448)
Posted 20 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
ruins
1178) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you going to do when the world ends? (Message 1317426)
Posted 20 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'll be sitting here on the 22nd wondering what the NEXT doomsday prediction will be.


The free calendar I got from the local Chinese restaurant last year runs out on 31 December. THAT is when the world will really end.
1179) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1317425)
Posted 20 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
oldy
1180) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1317404)
Posted 20 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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That is udderly ridiculous
1181) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1317403)
Posted 20 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
musty
1182) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1317393)
Posted 20 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
bright
1183) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1317365)
Posted 19 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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prey
1184) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1317341)
Posted 19 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
entity
1185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Let it snow! (But go away promptly!) (Message 1317340)
Posted 19 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Currently +4C (about 40F) here in the sub-Artic, but that Wisconsion storm is due here about Friday or Saturday. Put the reflectors out today, since I don't mind shovelling snow out of the driveway, but I object to shovelling my front lawn out of the driveway after the city snow plows go by.
1186) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1317330)
Posted 19 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
tube
1187) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1317128)
Posted 19 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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timer
1188) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #4 (Message 1317126)
Posted 19 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think we need an education thread. Janice care to start again?


I agree. Much of my personal enjoyment of the word link thread comes from figuring out how the other person made their link. Rather than clutter this thread, or the word link thread, please can we have an "education about word links" thread?
1189) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1316819)
Posted 18 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Houston
1190) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1316817)
Posted 18 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
solution
1191) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1316676)
Posted 18 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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metal
1192) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1316642)
Posted 18 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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water
1193) Message boards : Cafe SETI : peanut butter sandwiches (Message 1316561)
Posted 17 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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America's other gift to food lovers of the world - the Dagwood.

1194) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Let it snow! (But go away promptly!) (Message 1316488)
Posted 17 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We are WAY behind our snow schedule in this corner of the Great White North, but that is supposed to change by the weekend.
1195) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #4 (Message 1316485)
Posted 17 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In addition to the anti-freeze, most jet fuel uses anti-bacterial additives, and very small amounts of heavy oils as lubricants. Most jet engines will run on just about anything that is liquid and can burn, but run best and cleanest on light kerosene based fuels.

Most western air forces today run JP-8, which is virtually identical to commercial JET-A or NATO F-34. There are funny mixes around, mostly for cold weather (JET-B) and hard to ignite stuff used on-board ships (good old JP-5). All of these are very similar to diesel fuel, and most diesels run very happily on modern jet fuel.

JP-6 was used for the XB-70, but hasn't been made for decades. JP-7 is very bizarre stuff developed for aircraft like the SR-71. It is a weird cocktail of light petroleum distillates plus odd chemicals like cesium and triethylborane, and is very hard to ignite. It remains in small scale production today, long after the SR-71 was retired, a fact which keeps the Internet conspiracy theory nutbars hopping. The stuff produced today is used in experimental ramjets, and as rocket fuel.
1196) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #4 (Message 1316422)
Posted 17 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris, in North America "kerosene" is a light crude oil distillate, used in lamps and cooking stoves. "Paraffin" is petroleum derived wax, used in candles and for sealing. "Petrol" is used in bad made-for-TV movies to let people know the actor is supposed to be British.

And don't get me started on "football".
1197) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1316419)
Posted 17 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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immoral
1198) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 37 (Message 1316174)
Posted 16 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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fasteners
1199) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1316171)
Posted 16 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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... and that is where baby carrots come from.
1200) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1316168)
Posted 16 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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Some sort of heating device.
1201) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #4 (Message 1316079)
Posted 16 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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Since when I couldn't make it one word .....


Yeahsurewhynot?
1202) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 36 (Message 1316077)
Posted 16 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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minivan
1203) Message boards : Cafe SETI : peanut butter sandwiches (Message 1316054)
Posted 16 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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A favourite of mine is canned sardines on toast. We get some Portuguese canned sardines here with jalapenos in the oil. Very nice on toast.
1204) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #4 (Message 1316053)
Posted 16 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It wasn't wrong Thomas, perhaps I'm just not as good at this game as others! As usual I'm happy to go with the majority view :-)


I look at it as a learning opportunity Chris. It is not about being good or bad at the game.
1205) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 36 (Message 1316052)
Posted 16 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
artist
1206) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #4 (Message 1315833)
Posted 16 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hi Bernie, hmm, a bit tenuous at best ...


A link is a link. Some of the fun in this game is the spontaneous link that forms in your mind upon seeing a word. Explaining the link takes the fun out of it.
1207) Message boards : Cafe SETI : peanut butter sandwiches (Message 1315764)
Posted 15 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Locally we can get "organic" peanut butter, made with no added oil and no added salt. Tastes like ... well, can't use that word in a family friendly forum.
1208) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #4 (Message 1315762)
Posted 15 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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Exactly. A link is a link.
1209) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1315760)
Posted 15 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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Coffee grinder?
1210) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 36 (Message 1315590)
Posted 15 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Parentheses
1211) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 36 (Message 1315439)
Posted 15 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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youth
1212) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 36 (Message 1315366)
Posted 15 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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giant
1213) Message boards : Cafe SETI : peanut butter sandwiches (Message 1315363)
Posted 15 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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What the hell is "jet-puffed marshmallow creme"!



The inside of a marshmallow, in a spreadable form. In other words, 98% sugar and 2% some oil byproduct to hold it all together. With peanut butter it is heaven on bread. Purists will insist that it has to be white bread, for the best effect.

BTW, peanut butter mixed with corn syrup has a similar flavour, but it is too runny to make a good sandwich. It is great on ice cream though, or straight off a spoon.
1214) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 36 (Message 1315332)
Posted 15 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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green
1215) Message boards : Cafe SETI : peanut butter sandwiches (Message 1315331)
Posted 15 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
America's gift to food lovers everywhere...

1216) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 36 (Message 1314976)
Posted 14 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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party
1217) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 36 (Message 1314788)
Posted 13 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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information
1218) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 36 (Message 1314498)
Posted 13 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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Jury
1219) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1314306)
Posted 12 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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The only other root vegetable I can think of is parsnips. Bloody awful things, never touch 'em.
1220) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 36 (Message 1314253)
Posted 12 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Detachment
1221) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #4 (Message 1314115)
Posted 12 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I can see why people get confused/upset in the Word Link. I saw "commander" and was about to post "salamander" when I relized that 99.99% of the people in the world have never heard of the funky little store of that name here in my home town. It is right next door to the Frilly Lizard. Another word link locals would get, but everybody else might miss.
1222) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 36 (Message 1313974)
Posted 11 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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brothers


sisters
1223) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1313973)
Posted 11 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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Coconuts?
1224) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Kitchen TOOL TWO (Message 1313786)
Posted 11 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
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For chopping turnips.
1225) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1313322)
Posted 9 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Dogs are dumb enough to try and corner skunks, so yes, they get sprayed. If you give a skunk an escape route the skunk will not spray you. You can get pretty darn close to skunks if you know what you are doing.

Some dogs never seem to learn either one of the summer camp dogs got skunked on a regular basis. One overnight camping trip she chased a skunk into the head councilors sleeping bag and attempted to follow it in....


A few years back we had a dog get skunked twice in one night. First time, I heard the barking in the back yard, and smelled the smell. I went out, put the dog in the detached garage, and went in to get the bath ready. I came out a few minutes later, opened the garage door, and the dog charged straight out into a back bush, barking his fool head off. You guessed it...

And for the record, we had good results with the hydrogen peroxide baking soda recipe. Its not perfect, but it helps. From my experience, the old myth about tomato juice is just that - a myth. An active dog plus a tub full of tomato juice just makes your house look like a bad horror movie set, and does nothing for the smell.
1226) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1311593)
Posted 6 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Clearly the intelligence and capability of animals, in general, is underestimated, and has been for years ...



Yes, several years ago I trained a dog to be a machinest....
1227) Message boards : Cafe SETI : R.I.P Dave (Message 1311592)
Posted 6 Dec 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A great loss. Thankfully he left an amazing library of recorded work.
1228) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 6 (Message 1311238)
Posted 29 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
By lunchtime here (less than 2hrs away) I'll have a 60L lager brew on the bubble. :D

Cheers.


I first read that quickly, and thought you were going to have 60L for lunch. Good on you, if you can do that!
1229) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 6 (Message 1311237)
Posted 29 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
By the way, single malts are also made in Canada and the US. After a lengthy legal battle, they are allowed to be called single malts - at least in Canada.

The term "rye" used to be reserved for whiskey made only from rye grain, but usually refers today to a blend of rye and other grains and even corn. From memory, there is a small whiskey distillery in Alberta that still makes 100 % rye. Buck for buck, I don't think you can beat this rye blend if that is the style you like.

Two observations: One, it is all a matter of taste which whiskey you like or don't like. Two, after about the fifth or sixth glass I can't tell the difference anyway.

Special note to the mods: all this whiskey discussion is clearly related to the original topic. The technical term for the low to mid alcohol liquid produced by the primary fermentation of the grain, before being distilled, is "brewer's beer". So there.
1230) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Different Origins of food (Message 1310659)
Posted 27 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A little Canadian humour, added in edit: the Indians deeply regret the passing of the buffalo, and they say they won't be in the chips again till they come back.

Off to the pun thread with thee.

I have met a few buffalo (after they had broken out of a farm).


To paraphrase W.C Fields and Will Rogers at the same time:

I never met a buffalo I didn't like - if it was properly cooked.
1231) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Trash Talking - Football (Message 1310658)
Posted 27 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is nice to see you Yanks finally catching on to real football. We just had our 100th Grey Cup here last weekend, Toronto demolished Calgary 35 to 22. As a westerner I found that a little hard to take, but Toronto last won in 1952, so I guess it was their turn.
1232) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Different Origins of food (Message 1310654)
Posted 27 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We get a lot of farm raised buffalo here in the (Canadian) deep south, which is quite nice. The wild stuff can be a little dry, and has a VERY strong flavour. Interesting, but not every day please. Same with musk ox (which is still all wild as far as I know). I find about one musk ox burger per decade to be interesting. Any more would be overwhelming.

A little Canadian humour, added in edit: the Indians deeply regret the passing of the buffalo, and they say they won't be in the chips again till they come back.
1233) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1309449)
Posted 23 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm suprised nobody commented on the recent theft our our National Strategic Reserve of Maple Syrup. fortunately, the stuff was located and returned to safe keeping.
1234) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cereal (Message 1308911)
Posted 22 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Personally, I'm kookoo for coco puffs. But Count Chocula will do when I'm all out.
1235) Message boards : News : Scheduler crashed. (Message 1308907)
Posted 22 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nice one. Playing the family guilt trip. I will have to remember that the next time my boss wants overtime.

BUT SERIOUSLY - take a day or two off. The world will not end,despite what some on these forums think.
1236) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1307225)
Posted 18 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Something to compress little left over bits of soap into a new bar? My grandmother used to do that.
1237) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #4 (Message 1307224)
Posted 18 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wonder if I could try one for auto parts? More a guy thing. Still I wonder who would be better at it.


Auto parts or tools could be fun. how about airplane parts?
1238) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Different Origins of food (Message 1304003)
Posted 9 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Going back to overcooked kidneys:

I think it was a generational thing. Both my Dutch mother-in-law and my Saskatchewan raised mother learned that you cooked food to kill the germs. If you had some flavour left over, good. If you didn't, shut up and eat it anyway.
1239) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "National emergency” (Message 1303092)
Posted 7 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hows about y'all install an Air conditioning Unit?. ;))


It already has Canadian air conditioning...

1240) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Home made beer (Message 1303089)
Posted 7 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Legally in Canada you can't call distilled beer whiskey until it has been aged 5 years. You can sell it before that, but you have to call it "grain alcohol".
1241) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Different Origins of food (Message 1303088)
Posted 7 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Kidneys, like everything else, has to be cooked right. Overcooked it is like leather, done right it can be quite nice.
1242) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "National emergency” (Message 1302711)
Posted 6 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
NEWS FLASH!!

The NWMP has announced they have discovered a plot to melt the National Igloo! They released this picture of a suspect, and are asking for the public's help in locating the fiend before it is too late.

1243) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "National emergency” (Message 1302489)
Posted 5 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is not global warming. It is that darn new-fangled electricty.

The National Igloo was nice and chilly until they installed electric lights last year. THATS what is causing the melting. We need to go back to the Good Old Days, with whale blubber lamps.
1244) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Home made beer (Message 1301943)
Posted 4 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thank you thank you Scarecrow. Who is the performer?

This brings back fond memories of my Uncle Mike and Aunt Julie from my distant youth (my mother's aunt and uncle actually, which I guess makes them my great aunt and uncle). We are talking the mid to late 1960s here.

Aunt Julie was a firm member of some fundamentalist reform church group, and Uncle Mike was just a regular guy working at a BC saw mill. Aunt Julie ran a very strict home, but Uncle Mike had a shed out back...

It took me a few years to catch on to it all, aided by my father was totally in Uncle Mike's confidence. Good old Mike grew tobacco behind the shed, and made beer in it. I knew I had hit the big time when I was invited out to the shed with Mike and my Dad to (officially) see some new tool Uncle Mike had bought. There we shared hand rolled cigars,and home brewed beer. They both made me want to choke, but there was no way I was going to admit this. Ah, memories.
1245) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1301855)
Posted 3 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Some kind of mini-chopper.
1246) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1301457)
Posted 2 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is this used in the annual Californian artichoke frenzy?
1247) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery landscape game (Message 1301418)
Posted 2 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Glacier related?
1248) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1301397)
Posted 2 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The oval depression is for an egg, but I'm not sure what is round and goes with an egg.
1249) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery landscape game (Message 1301395)
Posted 2 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
it looks like a kettle moraine


Close enough! It did indeed start as kettle, but has become a bog as the water level dropped around here over the last 15,000 or so years. I would have accepted a kettle or a bog.

For those not up on their glaciers, a kettle starts when a passing glacier digs a big old hole in the dirt,and then leaves a few cubic miles of ice in it when it retreats. Once the ice finally melts you are left with a kettle: a dead end lake where water comes in but doesn't come out. (Sort of a roach motel for water.) At first this looks likes an average round lake, but the lack of water exchange means the water becomes slightly acidic, slightly salty, and very low in oxygen. As a result, only certain species of plant will grow in and and around it, and when they die and fall in the water they don't rot. They become a mat of dead vegetation around the edges with plants growing on top of it, that is the pale yellow stuff you see in the photo. Give this yellow stuff another few thousand years and it becomes peat.

For the bonus points,this is Sifton Bog in London, Ontario. My house is in the top left hand corner of the photo ;).
1250) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery landscape game (Message 1301081)
Posted 1 Nov 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
a sink hole?


No but think along those lines. Remember it is a glacier relic.
1251) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1300821)
Posted 31 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yayks!! Haggis! I really don't understand how one can eat that...Single Malt on the other hand...;)


Lots of single malt first, then the Haggis doesn't seem so bad.
1252) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Different Origins of food (Message 1300820)
Posted 31 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I read one time that the prisoners (1600's) in New England were fed Lobster as a cheap and easy meal. Well folks let be bring the butter, I guess bead and water was out at that time. Must have took too long. LOL True or not I have no clue.


A friend of mine who grew up many years ago on PEI (where the best Canadian lobster comes from) told me that they ate lobster when they didn't have anything else. His mother would tell him not to tell his friends at school they were having lobster again - she didn't want people to think they were poor.
1253) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Any Setizens in Hurricane Sandy's path? (Message 1300740)
Posted 31 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Back home in Ontario just got the edge, from messages from home it was a bit of wind and a good rainfall, but not uncommon for this time of year.

Personally, I'm in Halifax (east coast of Canada) this week. Average fall weather yesterday, but heavy rains, stiff winds and thunderstorms today. Waiting to fly around off the coast testing sea search radar - if the rain lets up just a little. Then home to clean up the yard.

Just looked out the hotel window, and I can nearly see across the street now. I think its letting up.
1254) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Requests for donations from Seti@home (Message 1300354)
Posted 29 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Goodbye Bob.

Note to those of you still here: not all Canadians are this narrow minded.
1255) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery landscape game (Message 1300352)
Posted 29 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Time for another clue. This feature is only about 15,000 years old, and will be gone in another 10,000 years. A blink of the eye, geologically.
1256) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why no English food restaurants in the USA? (Message 1300348)
Posted 29 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Some heathens apparently like to get married in a kilt, and would then never use it again. Renting sort of makes some sense then.
1257) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1300068)
Posted 29 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I know what you mean Angela. My Dutch in-laws loved smoked horse meat. Try asking for that in a big chain grocery store.
1258) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why no English food restaurants in the USA? (Message 1300066)
Posted 29 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yeah, English imported food stores are big here in Eastern Canuckville as well. Mostly cater to the ex-pats I guess, they seem to have mostly obscure brands of tea and British junk food. There is one near us that also rents kilts by the hour. Seriously.

Brit butchers and bakers are seen sometime as well. We have one that makes the best Scotch eggs....
1259) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #4 (Message 1299865)
Posted 28 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But I do use them exclusively in my kitchen and they are permanently stored in my kitchen with my pastry baking equipment.


Sounds like a kitchen tool to me. Unlike something dragged in from the workshop from time to time.
1260) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1299857)
Posted 28 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OMG, a Halloween pizza. Is there no end to this madness?
1261) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #4 (Message 1299854)
Posted 28 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But guys ....

You need to spend more time in cooking supply shops. I have seen many "common place" items there, labelled for a specific kitchen use, and the price increased accordingly. I will give Angela a chance to prove this was at least sold as a kitchen tool - even if I could use it to improve tire traction on my snow blower.

BTW, I have used kitchen tools in the workshop many times (don't tell my wife!) but that doesn't disqualify them as kitchen tools.
1262) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery landscape game (Message 1299851)
Posted 28 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Angela, no and no.

John, yes.

Hint - concentrate on the little blue blob, and the different coloured vegetable matter around it.
1263) Message boards : Cafe SETI : West Canada Earthquakes (Message 1299754)
Posted 28 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
From the CBC news this morning, the quake was off shore, near the Queen Charlotte Islands. (They have a new politically correct name now, but I can't spell it.) Those are well off the coast, up near the Alaska pan handle. Some minor damage on the Charlottes, including power outages, but no major injuries reported yet.

The tsunami warning has been down graded, but not cancelled. Some parts of the Charlottes and the west coast of the mainland reported 69 cm waves (just over 2 feet.) Could still be several hours before any waves reach Alaska, Hawaii or the lower continental mainland.
1264) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery landscape game (Message 1299749)
Posted 28 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
terminal moraine


No.
1265) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery landscape game (Message 1299624)
Posted 28 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OMG! Bill so deserves to win!!!

Is your background geology?


No, a lot of time spent flying over Canada, where one navigates from one glacier remain to the next. Which leads to this. What is this, and how is it related to a glacier? For bonus points, what is its name, and name the famous person whose house appears in the photo.

1266) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery landscape game (Message 1299616)
Posted 28 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think we ruled out your common morraines (ground, abelation, medial, etc.) already. Based on my personal encounters with the following critters, we can also rule out: pongos, varves, sun cups, rock flour, debris cones, Roche Moutonnees, drumlins, a furrow, a kame, a kettle, or a till. And it is clearly not a nunatak.

I guess that only leaves an esker?
1267) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1299608)
Posted 28 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Don't know the proper name, but I suspect it is used to make filled pasta, like tortellini.
1268) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1299478)
Posted 27 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Garlic Peeler Spice Mincer Stirrer Presser Slicer Vegetable Tools


I bet you answered exam questions that way too ;). The right answer is hidden in all that, so I guess I will give it to you. It was sold to us as a garlic mincer, and it sorta works as such.
1269) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why no English food restaurants in the USA? (Message 1299476)
Posted 27 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I believe the term it falls under is "Continental Cuisine". It may be a combination of British, French, but we do have it.

Honestly the Fish N Chips go over better with me.


Careful there Soft, Brits get a little upset if you call them Continentals.

In Canada for many years right after the war a "continental" label on a restaurant or bakery or deli was a code word for "German".
1270) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If your tired of snow? (Message 1299475)
Posted 27 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have a cousin in Winnipeg that saves on his fuel bill by having a unplugged in fridge the back yard to stock up a frozen items in the winter time. He said -40 f was common all winter.


Starting in early December, just in time for Christmas baking, we start referring to our attached garage as "the walk-in fridge". We have to be careful in January and February, as stuff close to the ground in there may actually freeze. We have a thermometer in the garage at shelf height, and we regularly check it before turning in at night.

And people in large parts of Canada tell jokes about winter in "Winterpeg". It makes us feel better, knowing somebody else is even colder.
1271) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I learned something new (game) (Message 1299415)
Posted 27 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I thought the Japanese car manufacturers were very careful to pick brand names that didn't mean anything, in any language. A Lexus is only a Lexus, like a Camry is only a Camry.
1272) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If your tired of snow? (Message 1299412)
Posted 27 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is this 12 feet all in a single drift, or a total of many snowfalls over a period of time, some of which will have thawed?





It is usually the total fall over the whole season. Here in the deep south of Canuckastan you may get a few thaws over the winter, so the snow on the ground at any one time is usally less than the total for the season.

But out in God's Country where I grew up, the first flake that fell in October was still at the bottom of the pile in April. Right, Celt?

Drifts can get WAY higher than the total fall. As a youth I remember walking up drifts to the roof of our two story house to shovel the big accumulations off the roof. To keep the roof from collapsing.
1273) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1299409)
Posted 27 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, here is an easy one. Need to know what it does, AND what it does it to. First hint - we have one, and it doesn't really work all that well.

1274) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why no English food restaurants in the USA? (Message 1299382)
Posted 27 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Lots of fish & chip shops in Canada, and I've seen a few in the US. Lots of little tea rooms here as well.

Basically, anyplace that sells boiled potatoes and overcooked vegetables is an English resteraunt, IMHO.
1275) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1299219)
Posted 27 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just got in from a night of EXCELLENT live music, a new pic will have to wait till tomorrow. Oh, and colanders are also good for draining pasta.
1276) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1299046)
Posted 26 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In Canada we call it a colander.
1277) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If your tired of snow? (Message 1298978)
Posted 26 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is that the year when power lines in Canada and the States iced up, and the weight of ice brought them down cutting thousands off from electricity?


That happens quite regularly, but I think the big one most people remember was in 1998. I remember that one because I left for 3 weeks working in Florida the day before it hit Ontario. I heard all about it (and heard and heard and heard) after I got home.
1278) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1298182)
Posted 23 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
@Bill - I am surprised to hear that Ann likes her mini-Cuisinart. I had a mini for a short time and found it to be annoying. Too much washing for simply chopping one onion... I do like my big Cuisinart though. I am on my second one! And as for weight gain, I've put 60 pounds on Eric in the 20 years I've known him. I challenge Ann to top that!!!

I got married in a suit with a 36 inch waist. I was up to 44 at one point, but have fought my way back to a 42. My wife has the chop/clean sequence down to an art. She can Cuisinart an onion and then clean up while I'm still trying to remember which way to slice the onion first. I think it is her Dutch genes.

What is its purpose and how does it work?[/b]



For cutting bread.
1279) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1298051)
Posted 23 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thank you for the win! I actually do have something in mind that might stump one or two of you. I will try to remember to take a picture of it tonight when I get home. I just don't have all that many single purpose pieces of equipment in my kitchen. For day to day cooking at least, I find I don't need much more than a knife and a wooden spoon!



My wife made me promise to bury her with her two Cuisinarts. A big one and a mini. One or the other is used several times a week here. Did I mention I need to go on a diet?

Of course, if I go first, I will buried with a Dremel and my trusty EA6B. Oh, and my Swiss Army knife.
1280) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1297712)
Posted 21 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In similar vein....

Many years ago, at a Cub Scout camp out, a junior leader (not me) decided to add a little gasoline to a camp fire late one night. The flames spread up the stream, and the leader was left holding a plastic jug of gas with flames coming out the top. He paused for only a second (it seemed like hours) then turned and drop kicked the jug into the nearby lake. It left a long arc of flame through the night sky, and then burst into a small fire ball on the lake surface. The Cubs rose as one, and gave the leader a standing ovation.

We spent the rest of the weekend doing all the carefully planned activities from the handbook, but for years all any Cub would talk about for that camp out was the night the leader drop kicked the gas bomb into the lake.
1281) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1297631)
Posted 21 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And the NHL is on their 3rd lockout by the team owners in 18 years...


As a Maple Leaf fan, I'm all in favour of the lockout. Every day they don't play is another day I'm not disappointed.
1282) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1297409)
Posted 21 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
cork puller


Too easy! I should have known there would be a few winos here. Over to you Carlos.
1283) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1297375)
Posted 20 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I know its usage from watching one in action every fall for the last umpteen years, but never knew the name. Try this.

1284) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery kitchen tool (Message 1297335)
Posted 20 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Don't know the official name, but it is used for taking glass jars out of the hot water when canning stuff.
1285) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 34 (Message 1296408)
Posted 18 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That stepped steeple looks like a lot of RC churchs in Eastern Canada, c.1900, but I can't find one with the two floors of windows.

Canadian RC church, c 1900?
1286) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If your tired of snow? (Message 1295945)
Posted 16 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Old Canadian joke:

I missed summer last year. It was on a Wednesday, and I had to work.
1287) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If your tired of snow? (Message 1295588)
Posted 15 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good thing that all that rain in Scotland isn't snow right now.



I'd rather have snow than rain!


You don't have to shovel rain.
1288) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1295585)
Posted 15 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ah Angela, you brought back memories of dealing with several aging pets over the years, and trying to get them to take their pills. They can be quite clever when it comes to detecting the medicine and spitting it out, while still eating the tasty stuff you surrounded it in. Cockers regularly get food stuck to their ears, and they can even be selective about that.

1289) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 34 (Message 1295375)
Posted 14 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Birth place of Joe Dirt?
1290) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 34 (Message 1295196)
Posted 14 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It's the Ankara castle in Turkey I believe.


Close enough. The locals call it the Ankara Citadel. The first fortifications on this site were built by the Hittites.

PM going out.
1291) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 34 (Message 1295151)
Posted 14 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Celt Tooth: I'm not sure of the official definition of the Middle East but you are at least getting warm and maybe are right on.

Donald: one of the places in your list is correct.

Tullio: the Crusaders never made it this far (I think). This was definitely not the final goal of the Crusaders, or even on the route they usually took.

Next hint: the modern country where this is located is on the fringe of several recent (and one current) conflicts in what the modern press calls the Middle East.

1292) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 34 (Message 1295038)
Posted 14 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
North Africa?


Not Africa.

Next hint: the location was first fortified by one of the oldest recorded civilizations on the planet.
1293) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 34 (Message 1294956)
Posted 13 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Time for a hint: the part you see here was built by the Romans, but the site was ancient when they got there.
1294) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 34 (Message 1294927)
Posted 13 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not Europe (which answers Uli as well).
1295) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 34 (Message 1294384)
Posted 12 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
UK?


Nope.
1296) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many words do you know? (Message 1294369)
Posted 12 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
'Love' is also a word the whole world knows.


I'm not sure about that, after reading the headlines on any given day.
1297) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If your tired of snow? (Message 1294287)
Posted 12 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have a hard time taking snow as a laughing matter. Here is a picture from my home town, winter of 2010. The rectangular lumps are cars and trucks.

1298) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 34 (Message 1294280)
Posted 12 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Ian. Here is one NOT from Canada. Flag has been removed to make it a little harder. I can't begin to pronounce the name of the place (your first clue), so all I need is the name of the town or city where this is located.

1299) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No gas deliveries?? (Message 1293567)
Posted 10 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The reasons for no new refiners is NIMBY. Not in my back yard.


Sadly, the same thing is happening here with all sort of energy projects: oil refineries, ethanol refineries, solar power, wind power, etc. It has lead a local columnist to propose a new phrase to replace NIMBY:

BANANA: Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anyone
1300) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many words do you know? (Message 1293456)
Posted 10 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Especially if you are, like 19, OK. Then, like, you totally use that word a lot, OK.
1301) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 34 (Message 1293289)
Posted 9 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If it is not a fur trading post, then is it a NWMP post?

(For those not lucky enough to live in Canada, that is North West Mounted Police, the original Mounties.)
1302) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 34 (Message 1293019)
Posted 9 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A reconstruction of a western Canadian fur trading post. Fort Edmonton?
1303) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No gas deliveries?? (Message 1292810)
Posted 8 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We've been eating canola oils here in Canada as long as I can remember. Not as healthy as olive oil, but tasty and cheap. It is used in lots of processed foods.

Bio diesel and pump gas are growing in Canada, but this is changing land use and driving up food prices. Big debate here about the ethics of planting more and more corn for energy when people are starving around the world.

Carlos, if the demand for oil is still there (despite conservation efforts) and the public is paying prices that 10 years ago would have seemed impossible, why aren't investors lining up to build new refineries?
1304) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No gas deliveries?? (Message 1292550)
Posted 7 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Call me a conspiracy nut, but...

Several large oil companies here in the Greasy White North have cancelled or scaled back refinery construction and upgrades over the last few years. Every year we see dire predictions of (and real examples of) shortages, pleas to cut down on consumption (which is happening), and oil company profits going up. I think the oil companies are loving this teetering on the brink of a shortage, and the high retail prices we all put up with because of this.

Interestingly, the big capital projects that HAVEN'T slowed down (except for the odd political hiccup) are the ones that will ship Canadian gas, crude, and refined oil to China. I don't see any Chinese film stars protesting pipe line construction.
1305) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1291869)
Posted 6 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just talking to relatives about Edmonton weather recently, hope Celt Tooth's sunflowers survived last night's frost.
1306) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #48 (Message 1291863)
Posted 6 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:



Is this what they have in mind when they say ".. and the camel you rode in on too"?
1307) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #48 (Message 1291825)
Posted 6 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, time to judge. All the CRL references were too easy, they are not counted.

3rd place to the CRL herself:
Now where did I put that number for the Raccoon Removal Service?

2nd place to Chris:
This B&B isn't up to my usual standards.

And the clear and undisputed winner is Monday:
"What makes you think you're adopted Rocky?"

PM going out soon.
1308) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XV - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1291462)
Posted 5 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
... and don't even get me started on those freakishly friendly Canadians to the north of us!!!!!


Thank you for remembering us Angela. That was very kind of you. Excuse me for interrupting this thread. Bye now.
1309) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #48 (Message 1290807)
Posted 3 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Found one on my luch break. Look closely...
1310) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #48 (Message 1290717)
Posted 3 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Busy day today, will try to find a photo this evening.
1311) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #48 (Message 1290242)
Posted 1 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can you drop me at the corner of Elm and Main?
1312) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Remember the Nez Controversy? (Message 1290241)
Posted 1 Oct 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
<-- only one who ever talked to nez. :P

Meaning?


He must be a lonesome guy only talked to just one person.

Reality would say he didn't find you trustworthy. Sounds about right.

Why am I not trustworthy???



Bernie, please don't feed the trolls.
1313) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XV - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1288430)
Posted 27 Sep 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A horse is a dangerous animal...


A horse is a horse, of course...
1314) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1287399)
Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We used to call it "Gun Tape"
in the RCAF.


Gun tape is brown. The RCAF stole it from the Army.
1315) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Home made beer (Message 1287274)
Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Brewed beer and wine both at home for several years, until kids plus work got in the way. In my experience, acceptable wine is much easier to make than acceptable beer. Really good wine or beer are both a bit trickier.

Had great luck over the years with fruit wines. Pears, apples, cherries and especially strawberries. Best luck with beers was in brew-it-yourself shops.
1316) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rugby in the U.S (Message 1287167)
Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
WARNING: THREAD CREEP

You Yanks have some funny ideas about sports. I checked into a fancy hotel on the outskirts of Detroit for a big meeting last week, and in the lobby was a carfully printed and framed sign that said "No Hockey Sticks Allowed in the Lobby". Such a sign would probably be illegal in Canada. Constitutional rights and all that.
1317) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1287163)
Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Duct tape ... the handyman's secret weapon.

The strange noises near the beginning of the video is the Possum Lodge offical call to order.
1318) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1287056)
Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not posting.
1319) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Something different to discuss (Message 1283310)
Posted 13 Sep 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
...My fav classical thingys these days are probably the Puccini operas, and in a lighter mood, anything Gilbert and Sullivan.

Meow.


We saw Pirates of Penzance at Stratford a few weeks ago, and loved it. A lot of the lyrics are still very funny and relevant to today.
1320) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XV - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe (Message 1281967)
Posted 9 Sep 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All right, what did I miss?
1321) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1280105)
Posted 5 Sep 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ethylene glycol is probably about as good for bears as it is for us.



Oh sure. YOU trying telling that to a stoned bear.
1322) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 6 (Message 1278141)
Posted 31 Aug 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Heinekens is on sale at the local beer store! That's my long weekend looked after.
1323) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIV - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1278134)
Posted 31 Aug 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Happy wake up


YouTube claims that 116 people didn't "like" that?!!!! I am saddened to hear that there are 116 people in the world who cannot be charmed by a puppy. What a shame!


I wouldn't know what's wrong with these people...


Most of them are just trolls, trying to get you wound up. Ignore them. Or more precisely, give them all the attention they deserve...

And maybe a few of them have a dog phobia of some kind.
1324) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIV - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1273829)
Posted 22 Aug 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Last nights activities...


Looks like them raccoons have batteries hidden somewhere...


Not batteries. All these raccoons have looked into the heart of the Tardis....
1325) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIV - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1269768)
Posted 10 Aug 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There are schemes to re-introduce our native reds which are to be applauded.



Best leave it at squirrels.
1326) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Funny Answering Machine Messages (Message 1267189)
Posted 3 Aug 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A good one, many years ago, from a co-worker. A TV set is playing loudly in the background, and the message starts:

"Hello?"
long pause
"Yeah"
long pause
"hang on a minute"
sound of someone walking away, TV being turned down, someone walking back to the phone
"OK"
long pause
"Oh, by the way, this is a recording..."

Yes, he got me.
1327) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Top Ten Reasons... (Message 1266889)
Posted 3 Aug 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Angela, you and Eric sound like the Aunt and Uncle from Heaven. If your young thesbian is into classics have them check out this or this. New plays each year of course, but these links will give you the general drift. (Lots of neat stuff for old folks to do in each town as well.)
1328) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1266747)
Posted 2 Aug 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Where I grew up the standard way to order steak in a fancy restaurant was "knock the horns off, wipe the arse, and wheel it out".
1329) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1266700)
Posted 2 Aug 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We used to burn witches, but now we prefer them medium rare.
1330) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1266043)
Posted 31 Jul 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The face is of him who ate ten to many Chicken Tiki Curry.
Or the Ausi party trick dude, now that is a bum burner :¬)

man suffers severe burns to his bottom and junk after firework party trick backfires
An Australian man has been hospitalised with severe burns after placing a firework between his buttocks in a party trick gone awry....

From a Misfit post near you :¬)



He should have just stuck to this...

1331) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My half naked neighbor........... (Message 1264399)
Posted 26 Jul 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think Andy is on the right track. Return his garbage to him, with a note explaining why.

We had troubles a few years back with a new neighbour's dog using our front lawn. My wife start collecting the droppings, and left a bag on their front step with a note attached. No further problems.
1332) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mornington Crescent (Message 1264397)
Posted 26 Jul 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well played John! you are getting the hang of this.

A short hop over to Hatton Cross.
1333) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mornington Crescent (Message 1264280)
Posted 26 Jul 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Doubles are permitted if one invokes the Retribution Clause. Under the terms of said Clause, one is not allowed to state that one is invoking it. One just does it.

That cancels Wimbleton, which was totally the wrong direction anyway.

Euston ... (wait for it) .... Square.
1334) Message boards : Cafe SETI : First words to a visitng alien? (Message 1264279)
Posted 26 Jul 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Welcome to Earth. You will need some help with the locals, an agent as it were. Here are my rates....
1335) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIV - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1263165)
Posted 22 Jul 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just discovered Es' raccoon problem, having been traipsing through airports on 3 continents for the last few days. Very well presented. What level are your students? I think we did something like this in Alberta Grade 12 way back in the last century, and definitely did a lot of those in first year engineering.

Engineers (on both sides of the pond) use the terms moment and torque interchangeably, although strictly speaking torque is a moment of force. (You can have moments of mass, moments of area, etc.) Es' solution correctly converted the masses to forces, giving us moments of force - or torque. Alternatively, you could have summed a moment of mass, and converted the sum into tension in the upper cord, using the local gravitational strength. This gives a more general equation that could be applied, for example, on Mars (just watched John Carter on the plane), or could also be applied in an accelerating frame of reference. One would have to wonder what a raccoon would be doing on Mars, or in an accelerating frame of reference. That could be their creative literature assignment.

One minor picky point: you can't state "how far out the raccoon goes" without stating a reference point to use on the raccoon, and a reference point somewhere on the fixed structure. Using the c.g. is the easiest, but for extra points: assume a reference point on the raccoon's nose, 16.2 cm in front of the c.g., and let the location of said reference point be 0 when the nose first crosses onto the beam. Now rewrite the equation.
1336) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mornington Crescent (Message 1262550)
Posted 20 Jul 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Mudchute.

Just because that is a very funny name. Say it a few times. Mudchute. Mudchute.
1337) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mornington Crescent (Message 1262384)
Posted 20 Jul 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In the original Canadian rules a reverse manoeuvre can only be played by a resident of the province of Quebec first time. I think we need a ruling here.


You are probably working from the 1896 translation of the Union Station rules, which are generally considered to be incorrect.See the Court ruling in McGill v. McMasters. Chris' reversal is quite legitimate.
1338) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mornington Crescent (Message 1262219)
Posted 19 Jul 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But surely if you allow Barbican to Glouster Road then you are playing the original Canadian rules, back when the game was known as Union Station.

I thus invoke the British North American Act clause:

East Acton.
1339) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Games 3 - How off topic can you be. (Message 1259852)
Posted 13 Jul 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, if I had one, I might change it.
1340) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIV - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1259795)
Posted 13 Jul 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've never seen swamp coolers used in Alberta. The humidity can be fairly low, but all that standing water and wet machinery suffers through an Alberta winter.

I vote for the big unit as well. It will turn off when the room is cool, while the smaller one will run forever - especially if the room is not cooling.

As one Canuck to another - once you get AC, you will never go back!
1341) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give us a caption #46 (Message 1259372)
Posted 12 Jul 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sully at 3 o'clock - we're going in!
1342) Message boards : Cafe SETI : For Ian (Message 1257152)
Posted 7 Jul 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
+3
1343) Message boards : News : Alien computer viruses? (Message 1256706)
Posted 7 Jul 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In March 2012 NASA said Voyager was 119.9 AU out from the sun. That is only about 0.0019 light years, or 0.047 % of the way to the nearest star (4 light years). Since radio energy follows a distance squared rule, the Voyager signal arriving at Earth is about (1/0.047%) squared, or 4.4 million times stronger than the signal arriving at the nearest star. And it takes some very large antennas to pick up the signal at earth.

Tulio was talking about distance to the Galactic Core (27,000 light years, give or take). So, the Voyager is only -

.000007 %

of the way to the core. The Voyager signal arriving at earth today is 202,800,000,000,000 times stronger than the signal that will arrive at the core in about 27,000 years. (Roughly).

Its a big old Galaxy out there.
1344) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Let Them Eat Cake! (Message 1250721)
Posted 24 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
No fair!

Post a topless Woman and it could vanish...


I agree. That was really thoughtless Angela. What about all us old flabby guys?



Who are you calling flabby? I maybe old, but I still have a six pack and the same height and weight I did in High School.


I have two six packs. In the fridge downstairs.
1345) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Games 3 - How off topic can you be. (Message 1250720)
Posted 24 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I must agree with Dave. I can't rhyme, my life to save.
1346) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I was told it was a herbal remedy (Message 1250658)
Posted 23 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And don't forget, root beer was originally fermented yucca root - a known carcinogen today.



I always thought it was sassafras root. Did some research and confirmed that. Fermented Yucca root is used to make a drink called Chicha de Yuca which is very similar to Pulque an Aztec hallucinogen.


Hey, what do I know? I was drunk on fermented dandelions when somebody tried to explain all that to me.
1347) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Let Them Eat Cake! (Message 1250656)
Posted 23 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
No fair!

Post a topless Woman and it could vanish...


I agree. That was really thoughtless Angela. What about all us old flabby guys?

1348) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Let Them Eat Cake! (Message 1250549)
Posted 23 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
One of my favorite cakes...
1349) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I was told it was a herbal remedy (Message 1250215)
Posted 23 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, but will the cops believe you when you say that?

And don't forget, root beer was originally fermented yucca root - a known carcinogen today.
1350) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News IV (Message 1250214)
Posted 23 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I see "auto and manual" when I go to My Links. Uli, where did you see just manual?

Oh, and thanks Michael, and please forgive this hijacking of your thread.
1351) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1249486)
Posted 21 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
"They" say money can't buy love or happiness..


True, but they can be rented.
1352) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Kenzie (Message 1249018)
Posted 21 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Didn't you just have a birthday?

Anyway, picked up a little something for you.

1353) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News IV (Message 1248531)
Posted 20 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thank you for the stats Michael.
I give JulieUSA a nudge, when I see her post.

@Bill, I noticed, that you are on the manual list on Hydra. Your choice?


More like my ignorance. What does all that stuff mean?
1354) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News IV (Message 1248099)
Posted 18 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks from me too Michael.

Just gave En-Ki-Du a nudge.
1355) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1248089)
Posted 18 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Posting and listening ...


Posting is not allowed!
1356) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 11 Blackbirds (Message 1247750)
Posted 18 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And Ive heard tell that they were the last aircraft to be designed with a slide rule. Dont know if that is true or not.



Well, slide rules and a few IBM mainframes. Definitely pre-calculator and pre-PC. The outer shape also tells you it was pre-CAD.

One of the last pre-CAD US warplanes was the T-38/F-5 series. If you have ever done 3D CAD, or hand lofting, looking at the shape of those airplanes gives you a lot of respect for the people that did them.
1357) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brits at their best! (Message 1247116)
Posted 16 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nudge nudge, wink wink.


nudge nudge


Say no more ...
1358) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Which stores can I buy chipotle mayo from in Vancouver? (Message 1247062)
Posted 16 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Esme, in this end of the country I would send anybody who asked that to their nearest ethnic corner store. Around here any "identifiable minority" store will carry weird stuff from where ever they can get it. I regularly buy Japanese sea food chips in a Korean store, and Jamaican soft drinks in an Indian store.
1359) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brits at their best! (Message 1247060)
Posted 16 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another grand bit of Brits at their best, from my youth, just re-discovered on Youtube.
1360) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does your.........chewing gum........... (Message 1247058)
Posted 16 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It may last longer if you leave it under your desk. A lot of people did that when I was in school.
1361) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 5 (Message 1246657)
Posted 15 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Amazing! Just arrived home with a six pack of Leffe Blonde, and found these posts.

1362) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1245099)
Posted 12 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Solution for real nasty goose.


That may work in California, but it is frowned upon in a city park in Canada. Some smaller towns allow bow hunting of geese in the "town", but the thought of that in a bigger city is a bit scary.
1363) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1245069)
Posted 12 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Vic, we have a LOT of Canadian Geese here, not a single one ever tried to attack anyone.


As Vic's quote says, and my personal experience says, they get real nasty if they feel their young are threatened. A single bite can easily break a finger. That's why Canada Geese do so well in urban settings. The local dogs, cats and humans quickly learn to give them lots of space.

Are your geese seasonal Uli? If they are only hanging around in the winter, they won't have goslings to defend. They nest each spring in a city park just a few blocks from where I live. Some of the locals come out to feed them, which they tolerate, but they will attack as a pack if anybody gets too close.
1364) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1244354)
Posted 10 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here is an interesting follow up to the earlier conversations about bears living in a human world. Bear71
1365) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1244346)
Posted 10 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Up here in the Great White North only the little mosquitos carry a cow away before eating it. They do this so the big ones won't steal it.
1366) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1244067)
Posted 9 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If I lived next door to Steves neighbour, I'd be reporting him to every animal charity that there was, copy to all newspapers, and I would also be reporting the local police to the State Governor for going along with it. That might be the way you do things out there, we are a bit more civilised in the UK.

If this message disappears or a I go on holiday, so be it.



Chris, do you still have wild animals in your part of the UK that eat people (like bears do)? That possibility changes your point of view about cute little furry creatures.

The point that I was trying to make in previous posts was that you might have to transport that bear a VERY long way to get it 100+ miles away from humans. Even here in southern Ontario you are looking at 2 days drive to get a bear that far away from edible humans. I agree that shooting the bear is a shame, but as a taxpayer you have ask what are the priorities for your hard earned money. One bullet is very cheap.
1367) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1244019)
Posted 9 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is very difficult when a bear is no longer afraid of humans. When they move such bears around here, they need to be moved hundreds of miles away from humans. They will travel great distances for food. I wonder how far away from Steve's area you have to go to be hundreds of miles away from humans?
1368) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets: Give us a caption 45 (Message 1243609)
Posted 9 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is SETI down AGAIN?
1369) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1243079)
Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Looks like Bill has had a result, I think he knocked one down into the "drink".


Cabbage crates in the briney.
1370) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets: Give us a caption 45 (Message 1243006)
Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Please can I go out and play with the other machines?
1371) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1243003)
Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Guys, how exactly are you going to have the sun behind you at 200 feet depth?!


Top hole. Bally Jerry pranged his kite right in the how's your father. Hairy blighter, dicky-birdied, feathered back on his Sammy, took a waspy, flipped over on his Betty Harper's and caught his can in the Bertie.
1372) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1242895)
Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I just had a very strong urge to post in this thread, but I managed to overcome it.


Still you did post...


That depends on what you mean by "post". One could argue it both ways, but that would require posting to this thread. I would never do that.
1373) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1242834)
Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I just had a very strong urge to post in this thread, but I managed to overcome it.
1374) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1242747)
Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hmmmmm Eric may never have to bury another dead raccoon again...


All this reminds me of the old story about Roy Rogers (you kids can Goggle the name).

He had his dog Bullet stuffed when it died, then he had his horse Trigger stuffed when it died. His wife spent her remaining years hoping Roy went before she did.
1375) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1242190)
Posted 6 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good luck Celt Tooth.
1376) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1241151)
Posted 4 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Remember when Wessex, East Anglia, Mercia and Northumbria all were separate kingdoms?

Regards

PK


Not personally, but I will take your word for it.
1377) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1241149)
Posted 4 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If California squirrels are like Canadian squirrels, I suspect the squirrel was over the horizon while the cat was still trying to remember if squirrels taste good.
1378) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lord Stanley's Cup (Message 1240742)
Posted 3 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I just can't get excited about it when it is a bunch of southern cities involved. Even though most of the really good players come from the Real Homes of Hockey (Canada and Finland).

It's as if the World Series suddenly had only teams from, er, the world, instead of just the US. How would you feel about it?
1379) Message boards : Cafe SETI : PI! (Message 1240738)
Posted 3 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Angela, your blackbird pie is a little short of the required "four and twenty".


It is obviously Blackbird Lite.
1380) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1240290)
Posted 2 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
No pictures, but an exciting chipmunk story today....

Feed it!!!! Oh feed it, feed it, feed it, feed it, feed it!!!!!!!!!! (please)


That's what the wife's vegetable garden is for.
1381) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1240281)
Posted 2 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
By way of correction, so as to wander off topic, I might also add that there are 18 species of penguins.


But do they eat pie?
1382) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #3 (Message 1240277)
Posted 2 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Carlos, several Orders of Canada are presented every year. There are probably dozens of live recipients at any moment.

Gary, I believe the correct form of address may be "The Right Honourable", since old man Crosby was a card-carrying member of the Privy Council, back when he was the federal Minister of Squid Jigging and Cod Kissing (or something like that).
1383) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Welcome Back ALL (Message 1240269)
Posted 2 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What? We were down? I missed it.
1384) Message boards : Cafe SETI : .What most you......... (Message 1240266)
Posted 2 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Like the bumper sticker says - getting old is not for sissies.
1385) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1240249)
Posted 2 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
No pictures, but an exciting chipmunk story today. Came home to find one lonely chipmunk barely treading water in the pool. It is cool today, and he could have been in there for several hours. He (she?) didn't even try to evade the dip net when I fished him (her?) out. It just had enough strength to latch onto the net, and I couldn't get it off. Finally left the net on the yard, and retired to a safe observation distance. The little thing finally let go, dropped onto the grass, and just lay there for about an hour.

I figured it was dead at this point, but it finally started to move slowly. It would groom for a few seconds, then lay still for a few minutes. It finally slowly moved off in the direction of the pool shed, where I think there is a chipmunk burrow under one corner. It would be interesting to hear what it told its buddies when it got there.
1386) Message boards : News : Major Power Outage at SSL (Message 1240242)
Posted 2 Jun 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I now own the domain name setiisdown.com.

First step.


All I get is "site under construction". Any information on why this site is down, and when it will come back?

Just kidding.
1387) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 5 (Message 1238784)
Posted 29 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And all this time I thought it was because I was standing on my head.

BTW, who pays scientists to do this stuff?
1388) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 5 (Message 1238661)
Posted 28 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It's good this thread is back in business. I'll have a Westmalle now (a Belgian beer of top fermentation, couldn't upload a picture though, pity)


I do like a good Belgian beer. Had a bottle of Chimay Ale over the weekend. A real treat.

1389) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1238453)
Posted 28 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I would just like to point out that I am not posting in the original "do not post in my thread" thread.
1390) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1238157)
Posted 27 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Don't English snails climb in furlongs? Or maybe rods?

You forgot "hands"...

Actually we use chains.



Snails in Chains. I think I saw that movie a long long time ago.
1391) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wannabe Rocket Scientists (Message 1237728)
Posted 27 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My son had a demo version of this a year or so back. It was great fun - for a few days. Glad it was free.
1392) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mad Scientists Hall of Fame (Message 1237727)
Posted 27 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
1393) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1237610)
Posted 26 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Don't English snails climb in furlongs? Or maybe rods?
1394) Message boards : Technical News : Power (May 22 2012) (Message 1237450)
Posted 26 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, I noticed it about 4 hours ago, I have several machines that are not uploading. I'm guessing it's a problem with the upload servers and of course since it is the weekend it is not noticed yet. lol Figure I'll just keep crunching and wait


This is being discussed over in Number Crunching.
1395) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets: Give us a caption 45 (Message 1237397)
Posted 26 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
No, seriously Angela. I'm a raccoon with a hormone imbalance.
1396) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets: Give us a caption 45 (Message 1235651)
Posted 24 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, that's tenish. All amusing, just what I expected from you lot.

Number 3: xclusive585 with "OHHH YEAHHHH!"

Number 2: Julie with "Dead-Head Pet Transformation Day"

And the winner, who almost made me spew my Sauvignon Blanc:

soft^spirit with "Chameleon attempts to hide in front of Sarah Palin, suffers nervous breakdown."

PM outbound, right after I put down the wine glass.
1397) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Smartphone Crunching (Café version) (Message 1235485)
Posted 23 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My first cell phone...
1398) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets: Give us a caption 45 (Message 1235482)
Posted 23 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Blurf. Lets keep with a reptilian theme...

1399) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1235399)
Posted 23 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Works in Canada as well. What fun.
1400) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1235219)
Posted 23 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Crispy Critters.

1401) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets: Give us a caption 45 (Message 1234854)
Posted 22 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OMG, Fred's a GIRL!
1402) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1234763)
Posted 21 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I am not an alcoholic!


Alcoholics go to meetings.
1403) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1234761)
Posted 21 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Peppermint banana smoothie.
1404) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1234362)
Posted 21 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Lets see how about:

Spock, Kirk, Apollo, Starbuck, Adama...


I like where you are going Vic. Expanding on this theme: Spock, Kirk, Bones, Scotty, Sulu, and of course Uhura.

Now for the next generation of racoons I suggest ....
1405) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1233798)
Posted 20 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Cherry based alcohol, I like it. I loved learning what makes what. I assume distilled aged fermented cherry juice would be considered a brandy??


My source in Michigan refers to it as port styled cherry wine when they blend some brandy back into the basic cherry wine. Good stuff.
1406) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1233796)
Posted 20 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Niagra Falls.......


... slowly I turned.
1407) Message boards : Number crunching : Smartphone crunching (Message 1233602)
Posted 19 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks for those links, Link. I see that smart phone is running about 80 RAC right now. That puts it about number 14,400 on the list of 28,500 active MW users (according to BOINCstats). To look at it another way, we would need to add 16,540 more of these phones to make a 1 % increase in the current MW daily RAC (again using today's numbers from BOINCstats). For what it is worth, my dual Pentium II machine does about 80 RAC a day with MW on CPU only, running 12 hours a day and equally sharing the CPUs with Einstein and Climate Prediction.

This is a start, but only a start. I would really like to know if this is just a smart phone running in somebody's pocket, or is it some Frankenphone spread all over a work bench with power supplies, cooling, etc. plugged it to it.
1408) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1233102)
Posted 18 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Pizza.
1409) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1233042)
Posted 18 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Do hedgehog's hog hedges?


I heard they were all busy chucking wood.
1410) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I WANT...do so want. (Message 1232289)
Posted 15 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ah Nixie tubes. Decades ago I worked at a place that had banks of Nixie tube calculators in one room. The young guys would entertain themselves by coming up with some calculation that would take several minutes to compute, with the Nixie tubes flashing through the intermediate results. I think our final record was about five minutes. This was best viewed in a darkened room, late at night, augmented with cheap California wine...

Concerning clocks: now that I am semi-retired, I'm looking for a clock that gives times like Early Spring, Mid Spring and Late Spring.
1411) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1232288)
Posted 15 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I am still not posting in this thread.

Using an arbitrary definition of "posting".
1412) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things that made you go OMG (Message 1232286)
Posted 15 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Today it was the young lady weaving in and out of heavy freeway traffic through the middle of Toronto, at about 30 km/hr above most of the surrounding traffic in .... a Chrysler minivan.
1413) Message boards : Cafe SETI : PI! (Message 1231031)
Posted 12 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I seem to recall that the Shakers advocated total abstinence, and then mysteriously died out.
1414) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My eyes........ (Message 1231029)
Posted 12 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As one of my older relatives puts it...

It is better to be over the hill than under it.
1415) Message boards : Cafe SETI : PI! (Message 1230479)
Posted 11 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We use only the finest, freshest, hand picked organic grasshoppers in our grasshopper pie...


And what do you make your Girl Scout cookies out of?
1416) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1229782)
Posted 9 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:



Mints with a "LOOPHOLE" in the middle



I believe that in The Mother Country the hole part is not sold to the general public, but is instead reserved for the Royal Family and the Landed Gentry. Here in the modern progressive world Timbits are available to all.
1417) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1229496)
Posted 9 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
mhm edible loopholes....

But, it it is the hole, wouldn't you be eating air?


No, you would be eating a Timbit!
1418) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1229334)
Posted 9 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
An nescis, mi fili, quantilla sapientia mundus regatur? Argumentum ad hominem.


Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?



Why yes, I have.
1419) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1229333)
Posted 9 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I wish I was canadian. Even though I'm only an hour away, and have been many times, I am not familiar with Mr. Canoe Head, and I wish I was.


That's OK. Mr. Canoe Head still loves you.
1420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1229122)
Posted 8 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There is only one Canadian more famous and more loved than Mr. Canoe Head...
1421) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1228331)
Posted 6 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Mr. Canoe Head rules!

Why don't they make movies about REAL super heroes like him?
1422) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1227492)
Posted 5 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I like children - fried.
W. C. Fields


Close enough. I was thinking of "Of course I love children - if they are properly cooked."

Kitty Man wins. Send me your banking information and I'll transfer your prize from my Nigerian account.

Send me your account info and PIN and I'll retrieve it myself....


Wow. It's like you don't trust me. I'm hurt.
1423) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1227488)
Posted 5 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I like children - fried.
W. C. Fields


Close enough. I was thinking of "Of course I love children - if they are properly cooked."

Kitty Man wins. Send me your banking information and I'll transfer your prize from my Nigerian account.
1424) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1227471)
Posted 5 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Or maybe this one?

The best cure for insomnia is to get a lot of sleep.
W. C. Fields


Still nope.

First clue: the quote refers to one of the creatures featured in the video.
1425) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1227457)
Posted 4 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Was it this one, Bill?

"Children should neither be seen or heard from - ever again."
- W.C. Fields


Nope.
1426) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1227419)
Posted 4 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That video reminded me of one of my favorite W.C. Fields quotes ...

Ya mean the one that's something like this: "Go away kid, Yer bothering Me"
Yeah, cats aren't always the brightest bulbs on the planet.


No, another one. We may have a new Cafe game going here...
1427) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1227397)
Posted 4 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That video reminded me of one of my favorite W.C. Fields quotes ...
1428) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1226616)
Posted 3 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
number 9 ... number 9 ...number 9 ... number 9 ...number 9 ... number 9 ...
1429) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Television Trivia (Message 1226427)
Posted 2 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A lot of episodes in this TV show ended with two of the main characters in a domestic situation, chatting about how their day had gone.



Leave it to Beaver.
1430) Message boards : Cafe SETI : the OPEN thread! (Message 1226258)
Posted 2 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wow! Look at this thread! Its so, so ... OPEN.
1431) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Kenzie! (Message 1225783)
Posted 1 May 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Happy whatever, to whomever.
1432) Message boards : Cafe SETI : John Clark (Message 1225523)
Posted 30 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks for the update Chris.
1433) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Not too bad a choice (Message 1225512)
Posted 30 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think his last fifty years have been more fun than my last fifty years.

And happy May Day to all my fellow workers.
1434) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti@Home Diamond Jubilee Tree (Message 1225289)
Posted 30 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very nice Chris. Thank you.
1435) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #2 (Message 1225174)
Posted 30 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Celt Tooth's post reminded me of a valuable lesson learned from a sailing instructor oh so many years ago. He said, always carry a bucket and a sponge when anchoring in tidal waters. Then, when you get grounded at low tide, you can jump over the side, start scrubbing the hull, and everyone will think you meant to do that. This lesson can be applied to many situations in life.
1436) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's with the age gap around here? (Message 1224909)
Posted 29 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Maybe the 21st century version will become "if your GPS tells you to jump off a bridge..."


Can I quote you on that, 'cause I like it. I'll tell that to my kid someday. I'm so full of bad cliches the least I can do for my son's sake is update some of 'em. :-)


Consider it shareware.

Here are some more desperate attempts to keep my messages up to date for my kids. No comments received yet on their effectiveness.

Don't download that, you don't know where it's been.

Keep a nice photo on Facebook. When you disappear that's what the newspaper will print.

If you believe THAT, I'll forward you an e-mail I got from a Prince in Nigeria.
1437) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's with the age gap around here? (Message 1224888)
Posted 29 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm old enough to remember when people (including me) would occasionally do really dumb things while navigating with a paper map. It wasn't the map's fault, most times. The problem with many gadgets, including GPS, is that people stop thinking. We all remember our parents saying "if all your friends jumped off a bridge would you?". Maybe the 21st century version will become "if your GPS tells you to jump off a bridge..."

I hear a lot of horror stories that result from people thinking that when a GPS says "turn now" it means "turn exactly now". You have to remember that there is always some error between where you really are and where the GPS thinks you are, and considerable delay in the GPS processing "where you are" and turning it into "what to do". I know that my cheap little Garmin can lag my current position by up to 100 metres when I'm travelling at highway speeds. I quickly learned to turn off the voice and ignore the spoken "turn now" because it usually means "turn back there". Instead, I read the text that says "turn right on Elm Street in 1.5 km" and start looking for street signs. I also make sure my car fits on Elm Street, and that there aren't large holes or piles of rocks on Elm Street, before I actually turn.
1438) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1224675)
Posted 29 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
No bananas? How about this?

Id call it off topic.


Thank you.
1439) Message boards : Cafe SETI : closed thread... (Message 1224619)
Posted 28 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I guess I can't post here.
1440) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - (2) How off topic can you be? (Message 1224617)
Posted 28 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
No bananas? How about this?
1441) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU errors (Message 1224577)
Posted 28 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Richard, I missed that.
1442) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU errors (Message 1224569)
Posted 28 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks guys. I will try changing the monitor settings. I recently updated the driver to 296.10 as part of the last Lunatics upgrade, is that a good one?
1443) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU errors (Message 1224552)
Posted 28 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My normally well behaved GPU cruncher(ID 5619858)has started throwing a large number of "unknown" errors. Can some knowledgeable person please clue me in here?
1444) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's with the age gap around here? (Message 1224541)
Posted 28 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My father-in-law still has the same phone number that I used to call in 1967 to ask his daughter for a date. I almost have it memorized now.
1445) Message boards : Cafe SETI : England calling in (Message 1222933)
Posted 24 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Had a London Pride on the weekend. There are a few places here that have it on tap.
1446) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1222931)
Posted 24 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A pessimist is a man who looks both ways before crossing a one-way street.


I take it you haven't been a pedestrian on a Canadian one-way street on the day the pension cheques come in. It's not pessimism here, it's simple survival.
1447) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1222587)
Posted 24 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We are lucky to share their brief time on earth. My condolences Uli.
1448) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1222586)
Posted 24 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A long time ago.......

In a far off galaxy....


... lived a merry bunch of idiots.
1449) Message boards : Cafe SETI : England calling in (Message 1222584)
Posted 24 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I extend a hardy welcome to anyone who can use the word combustibility correctly.

And I would just like to point out that swamp coolers were invented by the British, who first used them on ocean liners passing through the Med on their way to the farther reaches of the Empire.
1450) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's with the age gap around here? (Message 1222188)
Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Oh damn, my mistake and well spotted. It is of course a 5-1/4" floppy disk....

I also have a box of brand new never used 8" floppy disks. My College IT students used to be gob smacked to see them ....





I did my Master's thesis on a Wang, using 8 inch floppies. Ah, memories.
1451) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's with the age gap around here? (Message 1222133)
Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


. . . anybody remember the Norton - Symantics File Manager [on 1 floppy 3. disc] ??



no, but do remember his excellent "Norton utilities" on floppies....


Dabbled with both of them back in the day. Why did they get left behind? More money in security software?
1452) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1221969)
Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Dude, two wrongs don't make a right.... but 3 lefts do.

Two wrights make an airplane.


..but does it fly? That is the Q

It did.

lies that was all photo shop

Since Photo Shop was developed 80 years later, I really don't think so.


That's what THEY want you to believe.
1453) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1221766)
Posted 22 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I still refuse to post here. It just wouldn't be right. Which means it's left. I'm sure it was just here ...
1454) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rock n Roll Hall of Fame (Message 1221616)
Posted 22 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Now THATS rock and roll.
1455) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rock n Roll Hall of Fame (Message 1221536)
Posted 22 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

How about Charlie Daniels, Willie Nelson, and Shel Silverstein?


Good music, but hardly rock and roll.

Just my opinion, and that is what it is all about. Somebody's opinion. If you don't like it, start your own Hall of Fame. I have one on the go in my mind, as we speak.
1456) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1221535)
Posted 22 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey!!, my boomerang wont come back....



I know the secret son, and to you I'm going to show it ...
1457) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's with the age gap around here? (Message 1220812)
Posted 20 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Anyone ever drop a deck of punch cards?


Oh God... (sobs quietly) ... yes.
1458) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Number Fourty-Four (Message 1220738)
Posted 20 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Actually officer, I don't have my fishing licence with me right now...
1459) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1220461)
Posted 20 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
eh. go fly a kite.


Have you done a risk assesment on kite flying ?? :¬)


All kite flying must be performed in accordance with the EU Paper and Stick on String Flying Devices Directive of 1956. Risk assessments shall be performed in accordance with EN 12100-44579, "Safety of machinery — Basic concepts, general principles for design — Part 44579: Risk assessments of paper and stick on string flying devices". However, recognizing the prerogative of Foreumite's to develop mandatory provisions which are often supplemented by de facto compulsory technical specifications and/or by voluntary standards, which do not necessarily lead to different levels of health and safety but, because of their disparities, do nevertheless constitute barriers to trade within the Forum membership at large, and notwithstanding the requirements of any of the aforementioned documents, members may elect to retain the services of a Notified Body to determine the level of risk associated with flying a paper and stick on string flying devices. All cheques shall be made out to "cash".

And may I just point out, that unlike some of you insensitive b****rds, I still have not read, or posted in, this thread. Full definitions of the terms "read" and "posted" may be found in EN 12100-44580.
1460) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's with the age gap around here? (Message 1220341)
Posted 19 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It was probably Lotus Symphony, which became Lotus SmartSuite.


SmartSuite! Thanks Chris.

I knew I could count on the old timers...
1461) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's with the age gap around here? (Message 1220244)
Posted 19 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Does anybody remember the name of the Lotus integrated PC software? Lotus Suite maybe? That was the first integrated suite I ever used on a PC, back in the mid 1980s. The word processor was OK, but when we switched to MS Office in the late 80s the "compatibility" function in Word totally massacred any formatting in our old documents. We wound up keeping a very unofficial copy of the Lotus software on one machine, and when we needed an old document we would save it from Lotus as a .txt file, then open that in Word and re-apply all the
formatting.

And of course, it had 1-2-3. I remember being extremely impressed when I made my first graph, and embedded in a document.
1462) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tim bits (Message 1220126)
Posted 19 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The Tim Bits our emblem dear,
The Tim Bits are forever!
God save our Queen and Heaven bless
The Tim Bits forever!



You all need to stand at attention while reading that post. Better yet, while singing it. Here is a modern pop tune that uses the melody of this timeless patriotic classic.
1463) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's with the age gap around here? (Message 1220122)
Posted 19 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I thought most people here were 50-75 from all the crotchety old man remarks


Oi sonny Jim, I fall into that age group so don't be so disrespectful to your elders and, quite obviously betters .... I am not crotchety neither am I old. I and others just happen to be rather more "with it" than you youngsters seem to think you are. At least we don't wear our trousers at half mast and spend all day on the mobile.

Mutter, mutter, kids today, mutter mutter

:-))))))))))))



What he said.

Way back in the last century, I got to work with a CDC mainframe where the core memory was, well, little bitty cores, hand wired on 8X11 circuit cards. Each card, if I recall correctly , was about 4K of RAM. There were two pull out drawers, each with about a dozen cards. The entire computer was about the size of a large file cabinet, and ran a monochrome vector display. If we kept the image simple, we could get about a 12 Hz refresh rate.

And if you want to get really ancient, in the same room were rows upon rows of what appeared to be empty sheet metal lockers, then being used for miscellaneous storage. I was told that before they pulled out all the vacuum tubes, these cabinets contained a 1950s vintage flight simulator computer.

Maybe this should be in the off topic thread.
1464) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 31 (Message 1220121)
Posted 19 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I saw something similar on the Big Island, Hawaii, oh so many years ago.
1465) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to this morning? (Message 1219940)
Posted 18 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For those so inclined, the CBC special web radio channel this week is all Gordon Lightfoot, all the time.
1466) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's with the age gap around here? (Message 1219939)
Posted 18 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Did someone ask for a walker?



One of my favorite relatives.
1467) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1219937)
Posted 18 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
mmmmmmmmmmm...

Jelly donuts........
1468) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Number Fourty-Four (Message 1219889)
Posted 18 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
BOINC finally produces a complete users manual.
1469) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1219879)
Posted 18 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Some might consider that animal cruelty...
1470) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's with the age gap around here? (Message 1219878)
Posted 18 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I remember many a wasted evening chasing punch cards around the room after a failure in the puncher or a clumsy moment while carrying the cards over to the reader. The REAL fun occurred when you had two simultaneous events (the university had half a dozen punchers in one room). Then you got to spend the evening on your knees fighting over who's do-loop this card belonged to.
1471) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's with the age gap around here? (Message 1219754)
Posted 18 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I wrote my first code for an IBM 360, in Fortran, back in 1970.
1472) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's with the age gap around here? (Message 1219714)
Posted 17 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I was 39 on my last birthday. Of course, that is because I stopped having birthdays back when Javier Perez de Cuellar was Secretary General of the UN.

And I think Sirius is pulling your leg. Just a little.
1473) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1219438)
Posted 17 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This is my pin.

1474) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1219321)
Posted 16 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
They can be a pest here too, but they are lovely with mint.
1475) Message boards : Cafe SETI : More light (Message 1219320)
Posted 16 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
By July in Northern Alberta twilight at sunset and sunrise will start to overlap.

Yes, in the very Midsummer I also tend to think that there is no night but just a period of twilight. At that time of year, seen from my summer cabin across a lake, it is easy to get an illusion that the Sun only passes for a moment behind one particular hill. ;-)


Regards

PK


Something similar happens in northern Alberta. However, it is so flat there that it appears as the last glow of sunset moving slowly to the north, then the east, and becoming the first glow of sunrise.
1476) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1219118)
Posted 16 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Maybe it was a flying squirrel?


Golly Bullwinkle, maybe you're right!
1477) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1219114)
Posted 16 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I saw a squirrel too! How did it get all the way here so quickly?
1478) Message boards : Cafe SETI : More light (Message 1219113)
Posted 16 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here in the Canadian Deep South (where we make great fried chicken) the sunrise today was at 6:41 local, and it will set tonight at 20:08. Just over 13 hours of daylight. We don't get the big swing that central Finland sees, but back in the heart of the Great White North, where I grew up, sunrise today will be 6:15 local, and sunset at 20:36. 14 hours 21 minutes of daylight. By July in Northern Alberta twilight at sunset and sunrise will start to overlap.

And of course at CFB Alert the sun will rise next week, and set in early September.
1479) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1218473)
Posted 14 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Still neither posting nor reading. More or less. Kinda.
1480) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Television Trivia (Message 1217915)
Posted 14 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Stingray? The Gerry Anderson show?
1481) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1217914)
Posted 14 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I never knew that a.......



Well, yes. It can.
1482) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DON'T POST IN MY THREAD THREAD (Message 1217913)
Posted 14 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I promise not to post in this thread or read it.

And if you believe that ...
1483) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 23 things every adult knows (Message 1217620)
Posted 13 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hate to burst your bubble, but Indian English speakers outweigh all other English speakers put together. So....
1484) Message boards : Cafe SETI : More proof..... (Message 1217461)
Posted 13 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The parrot is sleeping. It is all shagged out after a long squawk.
1485) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1217228)
Posted 12 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A man has two girlfriends whom he visits every Sunday, one who lives uptown and the other downtown. He likes them both equally, so he lets the trains decide which one he will visit each time. He arrives at the train station at purely random times and simply takes whichever train arrives first.

But over time, he finds that he’s visiting the uptown girlfriend much more often than the downtown girlfriend, even though there are the same number of uptown and downtown trains arriving at the station each day, that run regularly 6 times an hour. Why?


Because the uptown girl is better looking.
1486) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Television Trivia (Message 1216547)
Posted 10 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The Dukes of Hazard.
1487) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #43 (Message 1216343)
Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
One of these things does not belong here
One of these things is not the same

For all the Sesame Street fans out there.
1488) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tim bits (Message 1216280)
Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


... and that is why Timbits taste so good.
1489) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tim bits (Message 1215929)
Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That picture of him is PRICELESS.

He obviously needs to eat some Timbits.


But he is wearing a tie. And a nice suit. He MUST be trustworthy.
1490) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tim bits (Message 1215862)
Posted 8 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Timbits are made using recovered alien technologies.


That would explain some of the people who work in my local Timmies. They are recovered aliens. Or recovering somethings.
1491) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tim bits (Message 1215761)
Posted 8 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Timbits could end war and hunger.


Timbits HAVE ended war and hunger in most parts of Canada. We took Timbits to Kandahar, but the effect was limited because we kept them behind barbed wire.
1492) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Keeping Cool (Message 1214763)
Posted 6 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Really Chris. For a Brit you show a shocking lack of knowledge of the Queen's English. They were originally dough naughts. Because of the shape, old chap.
1493) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #2 (Message 1214762)
Posted 6 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Missing post: I put in a post and it is gone:
here it was:
--=-=-=-=-=
Ok Bertie, try this, I am a thistle seller, I sell sifted thistles.

Did any one see it before it ran off?


It was there when I looked just now.
1494) Message boards : Cafe SETI : He's brilliant, I tell you!!! (Message 1214761)
Posted 6 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Did any one click on the random link?


Of ocurse. But I'm biased that way.
1495) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tim bits (Message 1214758)
Posted 6 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The correct form is "Timbits for all, eh?"

I won a doughnut (note proper Canuck spelling) a few weeks ago. I used to have a plastic rim-roller from Canuck Wheels (another thread coming soon), but I wore it out.
1496) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Keeping Cool (Message 1214258)
Posted 5 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Saying a TimBit is just a doughnut hole is like calling fillet mignon just a hunk of meat.
1497) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1214255)
Posted 5 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Gasoline prize in venezuela $0.12 per litre.


Even when you factor in the typical incomes, that is incredibly cheap. Using nominal per capita income numbers from Wikipedia (so you know it must be accurate), a Venezuelan works 1.4 minutes to pay for one litre, a Canadian today works 3.4 minutes to pay for one litre. (I didn't factor in income taxes, but it probably won't make much difference.)

I hear the gas on the moon and on Mars is really cheap...
1498) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Keeping Cool (Message 1214248)
Posted 5 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, now everybody knows about Venus. We have to kill them.
1499) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1214210)
Posted 5 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Tim Bits


And a double double please.
1500) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Keeping Cool (Message 1214209)
Posted 5 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Diesel fuel delivered to the front line troops is $100 / gallon.


Only because half of it gets blown up or stolen by your allies in Pakistan.

I'm telling you, that oil on the moon is really cheap...
1501) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Keeping Cool (Message 1214079)
Posted 4 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We need to start a rumour that there is oil on the moon, but it is guarded by terrorists...
1502) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1213981)
Posted 4 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Molsons + keep 'em coming.

1503) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sign Language (Message 1213980)
Posted 4 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And walk 30 miles to school and back in the pouring rain and 20ft of snow, uphill both ways?


Yup. In our pajamas. And we thought we were lucky.
1504) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sign Language (Message 1213891)
Posted 4 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry Dave, but those of us born in the 50s bought you the Nintendo, VCR, etc. Then we read the manuals, and taught you how to use them. And we used to hitch rides on horse drawn milk carts...
1505) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 30 (Message 1212809)
Posted 1 Apr 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Bay of Fundy, from the US side?
1506) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 30 (Message 1211733)
Posted 30 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, fresh water? Canada?
1507) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 30 (Message 1211702)
Posted 29 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The ocean.
1508) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1211661)
Posted 29 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hooray for new math,
New-hoo-hoo-math,
It won't do you a bit of good to review math.
It's so simple,
So very simple,
That only a child can do it!
1509) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1211552)
Posted 29 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The lyrics we used to sing (indeed still do, depending on drink) for Quartermaster would contravene most of the posting rules.


Yes, we had some of those for when the Scoutmasters weren't around.

Being a Forces brat, and having spent all most of my Scouting time on base, we also had a pretty nasty version of "North Atlantic Squadron" in our repertoire. Only the first three lines are suitable for family consumption:

Away away with fife and drum
Here we come
we're full of rum
1510) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1211344)
Posted 29 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
beans, beans, big as submarines ...

turtles, turtles, wearing ladies girdles ...

rats, rats, big as alley cats ...

bears, bears, with curlers in their hairs ...

gravy, gravy, enough to float the navy ...

I used to be a Boy Scout :)
1511) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1211094)
Posted 28 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
One ringee dingee ...
1512) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1210810)
Posted 28 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hufflepuff


Was he related to H.R. Pufnstuf?
1513) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1210749)
Posted 27 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Technical point:

If there is no established Topic how can anything be "Off-Topic"??

AND, if "Off-Topic" is the topic, aren't all "Off-Topic" posts really "On-Topic"??


It's a conundrum....:)


Lt



at the risk of being on topic ...

Point of Order. Refer to the first post in this illustrious thread.

Returning to off topic - the Maple Leafs suck the big one.
1514) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1210734)
Posted 27 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris, you would have thought then that mother nature would have given us five big toes on each foot.


She did, but only on Yetis.




All my toes are much bigger now than they were when I started out. Is that evolution?
1515) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many secrets....... (Message 1210555)
Posted 27 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wait. I'm Batman. Who the @#$%^& are you?
1516) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.40 release notes (Message 1210413)
Posted 26 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'd like to propose a vote of thanks to Richard Hasselgrove, LadyL and others who have worked so damn hard, and under a lot of pressure, to get this latest installer out.


+1
1517) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1210186)
Posted 26 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
화제가인 무슨 누군가는 저에게 말할 수 있는가?
1518) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1209937)
Posted 25 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I am soooo sorry I started this thread.


That is on topic. Bad Carlos.
1519) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1209920)
Posted 25 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Heat up some paraffin in warm water, place the duck in the water and the paraffin will cause the feathers to clump. Then they come off as one unit with little muss or fuss. Split the carcass just below the breast and remove the inners.
1520) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1209758)
Posted 24 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Rob, this time of year we get lots of mallards passing through on their migration, using the scummy water on top of pool covers as resting and hooking up spots. It is quite common, in the spring, to see mallards perched on a roof top around here, checking out a pool before, um, well, diving in.

We are currently in phase one of this, as males and females pair up in the pools, then head off to a more suitable mating ground. Phase two should start in a few weeks: the "loser males" (as we have come to call them) will finally work up the nerve to come down off the roofs and gather in the pools. We will get up to half a dozen at one time, swimming around and making lots of noise, but not accomplishing anything. I half expect to find empty beer bottles and cigarette butts around the pool after they leave.

This will all end in another few weeks, as everyone gets the pool covers off. Apparently clean water is much less attractive to a mallard.
1521) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #43 (Message 1209750)
Posted 24 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Does anyone see the pic?


I did yesterday, but it is gone today.
1522) Message boards : Technical News : According to the Spiral (Mar 22 2012) (Message 1209748)
Posted 24 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It didn't require many programmers as we never had more than 6 ...


Which leaves this project only 6 full time programmers short of what they need for 100% up-time. Since we are already doing the distributed data processing faster than it can be gathered, and faster than the preliminary analysis can be further processed, there are probably lots of other places to spend time and money than 100% up time.

100% up-time for WU delivery may make us crunchers happier, but it doesn't help the science.
1523) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 30 (Message 1209356)
Posted 23 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I take the chance to use this thread to say "Hi" to everyone :)

I think the picture shows Chateau Laurier in Ottawa.


greetings,
Chanur :)


Correct! PM sent.

The tulips in front are a gift each year from Holland.
1524) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1209217)
Posted 23 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why would I want to eat bits of dried elephant?


It's much more convenient than trying to gnaw on a live one.
1525) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1208962)
Posted 22 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Before cooking, the snails need to be cleaned and washed. Here's how to do it, working with snails one at a time.
1.With a sharp knife, remove the membrane covering the opening in the shell.
2.Put snails in a large pot, pan, or dish with plenty of fresh water.
3.If any snails float, throw them out.
4.Take 2-3 snails in your hands and rub with fingers. Set aside when finished.
5.When the snails have been cleaned once this way, throw out the water, and repeat, starting with fresh water.
6.Rinse well, and use in your favorite recipe.
1526) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 30 (Message 1208960)
Posted 22 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Way too easy, already got two correct answers in PM.

Chris - not Europe, but the flowers in front are from Europe. That's your clue today.
1527) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 30 (Message 1208887)
Posted 22 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Always had a fascination with Northrop aircraft, ever since attending Northrop Tech way back in the last century. Just needed to dig a little.

OK, need the name of the building and the city or town.

1528) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 30 (Message 1208847)
Posted 22 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That was my next thought Carlos. A US training field, or maybe the Army acceptance facility, the aircraft were made in Hawthorne.

March AFB?

added in edit: Kipapa Airfield, Hawaii.
1529) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 30 (Message 1208794)
Posted 22 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
They are Northrop Black Widows. The vegetation looks more European than Pacific, so I'm guessing somewhere in the UK?
1530) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many secrets....... (Message 1208697)
Posted 22 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Simonator - yes, a supernumary.

Celt Tooth - this sounds interesting, tell us more.
1531) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many secrets....... (Message 1208609)
Posted 21 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have an extra one too. A few hundred years ago they would have burnt us at the stake.

I may be from the North, but i haven't got any extra digits. A few hundred years ago they wouldn't have been able to see this extra, if they had they may even have thought it normal, us being men. That may give a clue.


Mine isn't a digit either....
1532) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 30 (Message 1208547)
Posted 21 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK mods, now what?

Winterknight and Gary were both close. Maybe we can get them to play rock scissors paper?
1533) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many secrets....... (Message 1208525)
Posted 21 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have one extra body part, but to keep the secret i'm not going to tell what it is.
Unless anyone guesses, doesn't usually take long.


I have an extra one too. A few hundred years ago they would have burnt us at the stake.
1534) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 30 (Message 1208519)
Posted 21 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Mount Robson


Correct Byron! Take it away. Maybe we should use something besides Canadian pictures for a while, so the others can play too;).
1535) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1208458)
Posted 21 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My fav water "trick" is to get the two bags of ingredents for foam fire extinguishers. Mix one with the water in the toilet and the other in the water tank, when the next person flushes foam everywhere, lots of it.



Oooooh, you are evil.
1536) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 30 (Message 1208457)
Posted 21 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winterknight - yes.

Gary - yes and no. That's the give away clue.
1537) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 30 (Message 1208426)
Posted 21 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, here is an easy one. Picture taken by my wife on summer vacation 2009. The small lumpy grey thing in the foreground is me. I need the name of the large lumpy gray thing in the background.


mystery_Mar12 by wtbalance, on Flickr
1538) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 29 (Message 1208328)
Posted 21 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Celt Tooth. That really is a beautiful area. New photo will follow tomorrow AM.

Maybe I can find an old photo of Bucky's lab. before it mysteriously disappeared...
1539) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 29 (Message 1208287)
Posted 20 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Google tells me the code for Cheticamp is B0E 1H0, which also covers Grand Etang.

This looks like the two piers on the s.w. side of Grand Etang harbour. The Cabot Trail bridge is just out of the picture to the right.
1540) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Skildude (Message 1208225)
Posted 20 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thats right, me Tarzan, you vane.
1541) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1208224)
Posted 20 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris, is your old man a dust man?


Yep!

Donnegan


So, perhaps you can educate us simple colonials. Just exactly what are "cor blimey trousers"?
1542) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1208207)
Posted 20 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
At the risk of being on topic:

Chris, is your old man a dust man?
1543) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1208073)
Posted 19 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
6

(Apparently you can't post a message with just a single character.)
1544) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1207819)
Posted 19 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Those two made me think of the best ever trucking' song ever recorded, and that made me think of what may be the best ever parody song ever made. This one is dedicated to everyone with a sense of humour.

WARNING: this song may not be suitable for children.
1545) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1207817)
Posted 19 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That's a big 10-4 Scarecrow. Here's one back at yah...
1546) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1207669)
Posted 18 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I don't care what the topic is, this is off topic.
1547) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 29 (Message 1207602)
Posted 18 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Near Cheticamp then?

Young Bucky Einstein, so the locals say
set out for a drive in his Nova one day
He drove and he drove
Around Meat Cove
And arrived the day before - in a relative way.
1548) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1207441)
Posted 18 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Today's off topic winner is Mark, but a country mile.

1549) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 29 (Message 1207306)
Posted 18 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Would this be Meat Cove, birthplace of the little known atomic scientist Buck Einstein?
1550) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cafe Game - How off topic can you be? (Message 1207165)
Posted 17 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Green koolaid is considered an aphrodisiac in some parts of this county. Generally the part I'm in.



Green koolaid is for beginners. Try this greenstuff.
1551) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #2 (Message 1207074)
Posted 17 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Rugby is a real mans game, totally different. But real football is soccer, not USA College football.


Well, soccer, rugby and the CFL are real games. The NFL tried to copy them but just couldn't get it right.

Lame excuse to stay on topic: I suggest a new game, where we try to come up with toally off-topic posts.
1552) Message boards : Cafe SETI : uhh.......done here. (Message 1207070)
Posted 17 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yeah, I went on to limited crunching hours a few months ago when we went to different power rates at different times of day. BOINC makes it real easy. And I get to still hang out here!
1553) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Something Strange (Message 1207060)
Posted 17 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
To bad it's just a digital image. It could be made. Problem would be speed. To approach the speed in the video the the Hydraulic pump would have to be putting out something over 200 gpm at 3500psi or more. CAT makes a pump capable of that but it needs about 400 HP to drive it. A tractor that size will produce 80 HP at best. And you would need some serious cooling for the fluid. If any one wants to invest $3-400,000 and be willing to accept about 1/4 the speed as seen in the video, I would be happy to build it. It be a blast. A project I would really dig :)


Those ball park figures are good if you want a machine with 4 digging arms. A previous employer of mine made a fine 6 legged walker with about 150 hp. Here is a real video, not speeded up or doctored. The project ended when we were bought out by a very conservative US company.

BTW, with an off the shelf CANBUS distributed processing system (and some custom software) it was very easy to keep the cab level as the machine moved, unlike the CGI machine. Expected retail price, in production, was under $1 million US, about 10 years ago.
1554) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 29 (Message 1206815)
Posted 17 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Near Aulds Cove?
1555) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #43 (Message 1206813)
Posted 17 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That is the BIGGEST booger I've ever seen.


1556) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner 2012.................... (Message 1206812)
Posted 17 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I suspect it is a North American thing. Both corned beef and cabbage were low cost foods that didn't need refrigeration, but would make it through a North American winter. As such they became staples for a lot of low income North American immigrants - including the Irish.
1557) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 29 (Message 1206772)
Posted 17 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Bras Dor end, or the other end?
1558) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner 2012.................... (Message 1206769)
Posted 17 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What a coincidence. My Dutch-Canadian wife is currently working on....

corned beef and cabbage for tomorrow. It appears to be a Dutch variant, since it includes both lager and cider in the recipe. fortunately, half bottles of each. Guess how I'm helping out?
1559) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This might be an interesting subject (Message 1206640)
Posted 16 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My mother was a very practical cook. Like most in her generation, flavour and diversity took a back seat to killing the germs and controlling the budget. I miss my Mom dearly, but not her cooking.

My wife, on the other hand, took me from a 36 inch waist to a 42 inch waist within a few years of getting married. It has been a constant struggle to maintain that 42 inches for a few decades now. She tempts me in so many ways...
1560) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Something Strange (Message 1206597)
Posted 16 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That's Boeing's new stealth airliner.
1561) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 29 (Message 1206360)
Posted 16 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Looks like some down-east kinda place. Is she on the Rock, boy?
1562) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Encyclopaedia Britannica to end print editions....... (Message 1206359)
Posted 16 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This thread has certainly blossomed into a number of areas, hasn't it?


I think that is just mirroring real life where that does indeed happen in conversation. I just have some difficulty in understanding this rigid rule of not going off topic. Seems to me to inhibit expressions of opinion.



Warning! Warning! Thread drift! You will be assimilated! Resistance is proportional to voltage over current!
1563) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Encyclopaedia Britannica to end print editions....... (Message 1206259)
Posted 15 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We got a free copy of a dumbed down electronic Encyclopedia Britannica with a new computer purchased back in about 1997. Even then the free copy was full of advertising to buy a more complete version (4 CDs instead of the one CD the free one came on). As I recall the search function was painfully slow, and then the articles it found were painfully short. My kids gave up on it within a few months.

The idea of positive or negative ground is really just convention. A lot of mobile equipment is going to positive ground these days to protect the on-board electronics from some nasty failure modes (like common dormant failures resulting in frying all the computers if somebody throws switches in the wrong sequence at start-up).

My local paper gave up on Sundays a few years back. I can buy a big city Sunday paper, but it weighs about 40 pounds and is mostly advertising for stores I've never heard of. Between the CBC news web site, and a book of Sudoko, I can get sort of the same effect as a Sunday paper, but it isn't quite as much fun.

This thread has certainly blossomed into a number of areas, hasn't it?
1564) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #2 (Message 1206251)
Posted 15 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A good bit of California sits on the Pacific Plate; does that make it Oceania?


Soon. Very soon.
1565) Message boards : Number crunching : Building A Better SETI@Home: Hardware Donations (Message 1205996)
Posted 15 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
One of the things I've always liked about S@H, and BOINC projects in general, is the sharing of knowledge and tasks between an assortment of people. Let the Berkley science guys do the science stuff, with the machines they need. If we need cutting edge new hardware implementations, I though that was what the Lunatics (and others) were for.

Just a wild-a$$ed idea - should GPUUG be talking to Lunatics (and others) about their hardware needs?
1566) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Science Channel program "Alien Encounter" (Message 1205885)
Posted 14 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The Science Channel?
Do we get this in
Canada?


On my Rogers cable we get a lot of their shows on the Canadian Discovery channel. Just like our Space gets some of their SciFi shows.
1567) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Encyclopaedia Britannica to end print editions....... (Message 1205883)
Posted 14 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Actually, as a serious book collector, I find value in "out of date" sets like that Chris. It gives you a snap-shot of what people thought and knew at a particular time. I have a small collection of old technical text books that I really enjoy, but the size of my collection is limited by my funding and my spouse.
1568) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #2 (Message 1205784)
Posted 14 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can you keep the discussion noise down a bit please .....


Saguaro National Monument, Arizona, Los Estados Unidos, Norte America.



¿Está esa parte de América Latina?
1569) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Encyclopaedia Britannica to end print editions....... (Message 1205780)
Posted 14 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Most UK newspapers feel greasy and smell of fish and chips, which is about what most of them are any use for.



"Papers - yesterday's news wrapped around today's garbage."

Can't remember who said that, but I found it amusing.
1570) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Science Channel program "Alien Encounter" (Message 1205748)
Posted 14 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
When I saw this in the listings I expected a program about my neighbours. I lost all interest when I realized that was wrong.
1571) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Encyclopaedia Britannica to end print editions....... (Message 1205746)
Posted 14 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I find Wikipedia entertaining, and occasionally useful. I've also found some awful errors in it, in the narrow specialities that interest me. For a "reader created" source they don't seem to be too interested in being corrected. Or maybe I'm not doing it right.

One can argue that a paper source, like the Brit, will also have errors and biases, but I think you can anticipate these when you know the types of people who created it (mostly middle age white folks, mostly guys, mostly upper income in the case of the Brit). I guess the advantage of an on-line Brit over something like Wikipedia will be this predictability.

And, the last time I looked, they do charge for access.
1572) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #2 (Message 1205737)
Posted 14 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I guess this is one of those questions where you get to pick your favorite answer.

If continents are defined geographically, Mexico is part of North America. But, then Europe is a sub-continent of Asia.

If continents are defined culturally, we have a real mess. From personal experience, don't mix up a Salvadoran with a Nicaraguan. They will tell you at great length how different they are from each other. Does that make them continents?

And don't get started on people from Rat River. That may actually be another planet.

Added in edit: I think cultural differences will be become more and more difficult to use as a basis as people continue to move around. One could argue that today "Latin America" includes big chunks of New York City, and a couple of blocks here in London. (My London, not the one in the European sub-continent.)
1573) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #2 (Message 1205634)
Posted 14 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As a card carrying North American, and benefactor/victim of NAFTA, I firmly believe that Central America is not a continent. No more than, as another poster said, The Middle East is. That's my opinion, and I will not be swayed by facts.

Notice that I said North American. I Am Not an American.
1574) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Over Priced Cabling. (Message 1205076)
Posted 12 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I agree with your last post Skildude. Cabling is a very complex subject (and not just HDMI). When we say that a cable "meets HDMI specs" that just means this pin on one end connects to that pin on the other end. A lot can go on (or not go on) in between. Interference (or not), distortion (or not), etc.

There probably are differences in quality of transmitted signal between cables, but this is not automatically reflected in pricing. In any retail object, the price is based on what people will pay. Quality plays only a minor part (if any) in that. To add to the confusion the differences in quality may or may not show up on your individual system. In other words, the weakest link may not be the HDMI cable, but something else. A $50 cable will make a difference on one system but not on the other.

As somebody else posted, go with a knowledgeable vendor. Best of all is a vendor who will let you try a cable (or a few cables) and let you bring back the ones you don't like - or need. I've been doing this for years, with video and audio cables. I have a flea-market $9 HDMI cable that works just fine on one TV (a $30 one made no difference), and I have a $50 three foot long cable between my CD player and my amp that made a HUGE difference over the umpteen year old Radio Shack cables it replaced.
1575) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 29 (Message 1204398)
Posted 10 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Perhaps that explains why Northern Canadians talk about going "up south" and "down north".

We now return to our regularly scheduled game, already in progress...
1576) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 29 (Message 1203498)
Posted 7 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Correct! Take it away.

There were several names I would have accepted. Today it is part of CFB Kingston, it was part of McNaughton Barracks when I was born there.
1577) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 29 (Message 1203417)
Posted 7 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Time for a hint - I was born there.
1578) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 29 (Message 1203322)
Posted 7 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Carlos - yes. And obviously therefore: Celt Tooth - yes.
1579) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 29 (Message 1203096)
Posted 6 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Celt Tooth. Here is another easy one. Need the name, old or new, of the "establishment" that all these buildings are part of, and the name of the town.

1580) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 29 (Message 1203083)
Posted 6 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Louisburg?
1581) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Our Trip To California's Central Coast (Message 1202488)
Posted 4 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Note to Eric: sometimes it seems like 700 years, but try to keep that to yourself.

Note to Angela: here is our little "year" story. A couple of years ago we bought new rings, having both lost our original rings. (long stories.) While arranging dates to pick up the rings, we had this little conversation:

Store Clerk: have you set a date?
My wife (with dead straight face): The 11th of May.
Clerk: Oh how nice. This year or next year?
Wife (still with straight face): Let me think. 1974.
1582) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 5 (Message 1202487)
Posted 4 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Been there done that Wiggo. I started making wine in 1976, and beer in 1980. This stuff is not meant to be great beer, just easy beer. No racking, bottling, etc. Just chuck in the pills, drink two weeks later. I'm not sure this stuff would improve much without being racked, and that spoils all the ease of it. The volume produced is also much easier to handle. 2 litres at a time.
1583) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 5 (Message 1202447)
Posted 4 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just cracked a fresh brewed batch of Mister Beer. This is beer making for complete dummies. You buy a 2 litre plastic bottle of wort for $5, which comes with a taped-on plastic baggie containing a gel cap of yeast, a venting cap, and sometimes a gel cap of finishing hops. Pop in the gel caps, screw on the venting lid, put it in a dark corner, and drink it 2 weeks later. Even I can manage that. Their Pils, with the extra hops, is great!
1584) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Are You Listening Too...... (Message 1202443)
Posted 4 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Gotta love Tom Lehrer. I'm exploring the new music channels at our new pinko government music service.

Oh sorry, they are not channels. They are Genre Streams. Sometimes I'm so 20th Century.
1585) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Our Trip To California's Central Coast (Message 1202441)
Posted 4 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Congrats to both of you. The pictures brought back good memories of our 3rd (or was it the 4th?) anniversary trip to the same area, many many moons ago.
1586) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Anniversary Robert Waite (Message 1202440)
Posted 4 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Waite.
1587) Message boards : Number crunching : I'm really trying to whine... (Message 1202082)
Posted 3 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Based on a quick review of all the whiners I met this week, I suggest the following topics for Sten-Arne. The other whiners seem to be having great success with them:

weather
taxes
government
modern fashions
the price of anything
modern music
anyone who is the slightest bit different from you
those &*%# kids today
other drivers
tourists
anyone who is richer than you are

There are many more, but those are the ones that seemed to come up most often.
1588) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Flying robots play James Bond theme..... (Message 1201742)
Posted 2 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, 100,000 years of struggle and inovation leads us to this. I love it.
1589) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OK Girls, we're back .... (Message 1201573)
Posted 2 Mar 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Several years ago I worked with a guy who had been in the real Swiss Army. He told me he had never heard of a Swiss Army knife until he came to North America.
1590) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OK Girls, we're back .... (Message 1200319)
Posted 27 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As a fully paid-up member of the Reprobate's Association, I'd like to propose a motion that Ragamuffins and Lovable Rogues also be allowed to participate.

Gentlemen,

Please be advised that I have received a request from a recognised Member, who wishes to propose that an amendment to the rules be discussed and voted upon.

Accordingly, there will be an SGM held at 11 o'clock in the forenoon, on Monday 27th February 2012, to facilitate this matter.

Hon Sec

Many apologies for the late start, but I now call this meeting to order.

The question is "That Ragamuffins and Lovable Rogues be now allowed to participate in this thread"

As many as are of that opinion say Aye, to the contrary no.


Canada says aye, eh.
1591) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Skildude (Message 1199849)
Posted 26 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is that starch in his pants? I just thought he was glad to see me.
1592) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Skildude (Message 1199785)
Posted 25 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
HEY!!! Oooooopps! We never asked him whether he wanted to be cremated or buried? Oh heck, now what do we do?



Both. Just to be sure. Now, if he would just hold still....
1593) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Are You Listening Too...... (Message 1199524)
Posted 25 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Bill, her name is either Clair or Elise...I'll plumb for Clair?



Slightly modernized the spelling, she is Claire Elyse.

And now for something completely different. Just got this CD from the library, and I'm liking it.
1594) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Are You Listening Too...... (Message 1199485)
Posted 25 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Debussy....Clair de Lune

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlvUepMa31o



One of my two favorite solo piano pieces. Here is the other. Did I ever tell you what we named our daughter?
1595) Message boards : Technical News : Sun Dies (Feb 22 2012) (Message 1199482)
Posted 25 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Of course they left for the weekend. It is the weekend.

Downloading several WU right now.
1596) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Skildude (Message 1199340)
Posted 24 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well we thought he was a chip off the old block so it seemed appropriate at the time.


It appears this is being met with stony silence....
1597) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Skildude (Message 1199229)
Posted 24 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Y'know, when I think back he wasn't such a bad chap after all, I'd raise a glass to him if I had one. Talking of which, do we have a bar at this wake, it's thirsty business giving eulogies .....


... and it doesn't help when the recently deceased keep interrupting.
1598) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bad vibrations (Message 1199224)
Posted 24 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Actually, the safest people were sitting in the helicopter. High energy parts (like pieces of rotor) tend to move out. Quickly. The camera guy is the lucky one.
1599) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Gasoline(Petrol) prices (Message 1197968)
Posted 20 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Aha! as I suspected. Most countries charge 60% tax on fuel. The USA & Canada only have 15-18% wonder why that is?



Two other things to look at: income tax rates (high in Canada) and Federal deficits (a little scary in Canada, mind boggling in the US). When you include hidden taxes and taxes on taxes, the Canadian total tax rate on fuel is reported to be over 40% by consumer groups, and 47% according to a sign on the pump where I filled up yesterday (they may be biased).
1600) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Gasoline(Petrol) prices (Message 1197967)
Posted 20 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Alberta takes less in taxes than other parts of the country, and there is no provincial sales tax. It is still way too much!


Most of the rest of Canada (and some parts of the US) pays Alberta taxes everytime they buy petroleum products.

1601) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many words do you know? (Message 1197966)
Posted 20 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm still not sure if that new-fangled Fortran 77 is trustworthy. I'm sticking to Fortran IV for now.

Another interesting feature of English is how acronyms, sounded out phonetically, become words. Just about everybody uses radar and laser, possibly without knowing where they come from. In my narrow little specialty, wusspuss, higgee, hogee and stovel are commonly understood when spoken aloud. (Googgle WSPS, HIGE, HOGE and STOVL for their origins).
1602) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many words do you know? (Message 1196894)
Posted 18 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I looked up several of the words I missed, and they are all pretty archaic English. I smell a Lit Major at work here, probably a Classic English Lit type. Of course, any quick survey like this would have limits. Still, it would be interesting to see the test biased to (for example) some particular technological or scientific field instead. One of the neat things about English is its rapid creation and acceptance of new words. I suspect there are a lot more new words coming out in Astrophysics these days than in Classic English Lit.
1603) Message boards : News : Project Back Online After Overnight Outage (Message 1196888)
Posted 18 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This is a science project. Right now, there are more volunteers than there are WUs, on a regular basis.

The project is short of resources, and has to use the available resources where it helps the science. Timely updates on outages may make us feel good, but it does NOTHING for the science. So, the resources (including our donations) go elsewhere.
1604) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favourite snack moves to Kelloggs (Message 1196457)
Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I dunno, mumble mumble, country's gone to the dogs, mumble, no decent crisps, yet the colonies ave got 'em, mumble ...


Have you considered emigration?
1605) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many words do you know? (Message 1196451)
Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
34,900. A lot of the words on the list are not originally English.
1606) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favourite snack moves to Kelloggs (Message 1196401)
Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That's nice to know, we're on our way, just get a few beer's in as well 'cause they might make us thirsty ;-)


These Canadian chips go great with a good Canadian beer.



And getting back to the original topic (sort of) there is a very large, very old Kelloggs plant here in town. When the wind is just right you can enjoy your Old Dutch and Moosehead along with the odour of corn being roasted by the train load.
1607) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favourite snack moves to Kelloggs (Message 1196363)
Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Bah humbug. You kids and your fake petroleum-by-product flavours. Thank God we still have Old Dutch in this country. Just potatoes, vegetable oil, and salt, the way it was meant to be.

1608) Message boards : Number crunching : Floppy Shredding (Message 1196331)
Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All very good stuff. Just one "minor" point: that "Phantom of the Opera" is actually the Toccata and Fugue in D Minor by J.S. Bach.
1609) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #42 (Message 1196198)
Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey, if I can dance, you can dance. try it!
1610) Message boards : Number crunching : Uli? (Message 1194915)
Posted 13 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I decree the dress code to be the same as the school I work in: skirts (and kilts) must reach as low as your fingertips if you stand straight up with your hands straight down at your sides.


Back when I was in school, some of the students would have a problem with that...

1611) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XI - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1194656)
Posted 13 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Years ago, down in Glastonbury, a farmer friend of ours has a cross breed mutt who hated tractors (on a farm as well).

He attacked the rear tyres as the farm tractors passed. Unfortunately, the dog bit the large back tyres so hard his teeth penetrated the rubber. As the tyre rotated the dog lost teeth. So, over many attacks the mutt ended up with no teeth, and was only able to give a nasty nibbling suck.

This is a true tale and took place over 40 years ago.



Years ago we briefly had a dog that was deathfully afraid of the vacuum. I know, most dogs are, but this took it to extremes. It would run in panic when the vacuum was on. We had to put it away as soon as we turned it off, otherwise the stupid dog would stalk a silent vacuum, creeping up on it, then pounce on it and shred the hose. That was just one of the many reasons we only had the dog briefly.
1612) Message boards : Number crunching : Uli? (Message 1194423)
Posted 12 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If we told you about the secret admirers club it wouldn't be a secret anymore would it?


Can you pm me with the secret handshake, I've forgotten it.


Here it is Chris. don't let anybody else see this!
1613) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XI - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1194400)
Posted 12 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There have been quite a few organizations breeding wild turkeys and releasing them in to the wild in North America for the last 10 years or so, with great success. I can see why they died out in so many areas though, they are basically pretty dumb. The ones around here will stand on the pavement and stare at your car for a few minutes, before moving. And then they often just move to the other lane.
1614) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 5 (Message 1194196)
Posted 12 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I love La Maudite for the colour, the flavor, and the strength. I also love that they printed a word on the bottle that used to get me slapped by my Dad's French relatives when I was younger.
1615) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 5 (Message 1194032)
Posted 11 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
should try those from Quebec :) if you can find them to try :))

Unibroue


Love that stuff!
1616) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Diamond Jubilee of Queen Elizabeth II (Message 1194027)
Posted 11 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yep, Home rule for Quebec has long been on the agenda, but I recall Trudeaus private life didn't help that cause.


Don't quite see the connection there Chris. Pierre T. was a staunch Federalist. His ex is a total flake, with no impact on Canadian politics. His son might just be a PM some time down the road, and he is a staunch Federalist too.

What is really killing Quebec separatism is the reality of where their money comes from, a fear of being absorbed by the Yanks after they separate, and a steady stream of immigrants to La Belle Provance who could care less about French language issues (and who want their kids to speak English).
1617) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OK but why? (Message 1193324)
Posted 10 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For your enjoyment I found another one.

Bobcat ninja


Now that shows real skill, without putting anybody at risk. I like it.
1618) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Are You Listening Too...... (Message 1193084)
Posted 10 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just got two CDs delivered today, from Christmas gift cards. They both totally amazed me.

Bill Frisell (my new hero) doing John Lennon, and the first solo Joe Pass album.

Let me just check. Yes, my socks have been blown off.
1619) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : Can Alec Baldwin Crash a Plane With a Cell Phone? (Message 1192971)
Posted 9 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
However, GPS devices don't transmit. They only receive (very weak) signals from the GPS satellites and do not cause any radiation at all.


Any conductor carrying a time varying voltage is a transmitter. Digital systems can react to extremely low strength radiated fields, if the frequency matches an internal frequency (or its harmonics). For more information, sign up for my EMI/EMC lectures at ITPS Canada.
1620) Message boards : Number crunching : Smartphone crunching (Message 1192851)
Posted 9 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
An interesting thread, on topics I don't fully understand. Came some smart person answer a question please?

How long would one of these new smart phones or tablets take to complete a typical S@H WU? If we know that, we can start talking about what per centage of smart phone users might sign up, what per centage of the day they would crunch, and how that would impact the total project crunching power.
1621) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : Can Alec Baldwin Crash a Plane With a Cell Phone? (Message 1192849)
Posted 9 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Tbret, most of the other "possibilities" you describe are quantified. Risks are accepted in the certification and operation of aircraft, based on this quantification. For example, based on this we DON'T make passengers wear parachutes (that will probably just change how you die in a serious situation), but we DO ban smoking in the loo (that regularly killed people in the Bad Old Days). The difficulty with cell phone EMI is that is not yet quantified. It may never be quantified, since phone technology and usage change so fast.

Yes, it might be decades before random cell phone usage is confirmed as the cause of a fatal accident. Does that make it OK to kill that next plane load of people, when it can very easily be prevented?

Good for any of you if you are willing to be a guinea pig in the search for answers. Just be sure to check with everybody else on the aircraft first. They may not share your spirit of adventure.
1622) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's on your desktop (Message 1192710)
Posted 9 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Time for a change. Going for obscure historical this time.

1623) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Eric Korpela, Science Blogger! (Message 1192582)
Posted 8 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It seems almost silly that onboard its a danger but sitting 200 yards away its not.


Not silly, just simple physics. The problem is with radiators inside the long metal tube, not outside. Even mostly composite aircraft like the new 787 have the same problem, because of the lightning protection mesh built into the composite material. It is relatively simple (and always done today) to design and test for resistance to external EM radiation, but the internal issue is quite a bit trickier.

Internal radiators produce very complex EM fields inside the tube, as the signal is bounced off various airplane parts or absorbed by others. It is very possible to get multiple bounced waves summing or cancelling at various parts in the aircraft. I have personally measured local field strengths 2.5 times the radiator field strength inside aircraft at some locations, and I have read about magnifications greater than this.

As a test engineer, I would love to properly investigate this, since it would be guaranteed work for life. Consider the possible combinations: 300 possible seats, how many different combinations of transmitters, of self-propelled attenuaters (passengers), etc. It would likely take forever. Repeated testing since the late 1990s shows the field strength magnifications I talked about, sooner or later that intense field will occur at a spot where trouble can be caused. Since nobody really wants to fund an open ended test program like this, the prudent thing to do is turn off your @#*# phone.
1624) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : Can Alec Baldwin Crash a Plane With a Cell Phone? (Message 1192574)
Posted 8 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A quote from a recent NY Times article:

"One crash in which cellphone interference with airplane navigation was cited as a possible factor involved a charter in Christchurch, New Zealand, in 2003. Eight people died when the plane flew into the ground short of the runway.

The pilot had called home, and the call remained connected for the last three minutes of the flight. In the final report, the New Zealand Transport Accident Investigation Commission stated, “The pilot’s own cellphone might have caused erroneous indications” on a navigational aid.

Since 2000, there have been at least 10 voluntary reports filed by pilots in the United States with the Aviation Safety Reporting System, administered by NASA. In 2007, one pilot recounted an instance when the navigational equipment on his Boeing 737 had failed after takeoff. A flight attendant told a passenger to turn off a hand-held GPS device and the problem on the flight deck went away."

I agree that Eric's quantification of this issue may be questioned, but the fact remains that the possiblity is non-zero. As long as there is a non-zero possibility of my being involved in a fiery crash I will continue to be rude to people who use banned devices on airplanes I ride in. You have all been warned.

Added in edit: here is another interesting article on the subject.
1625) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : Can Alec Baldwin Crash a Plane With a Cell Phone? (Message 1192473)
Posted 8 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Actually, a buzz on voice coms is pretty benign. The pilot hears the buzz, and asks for the message to be repeated. The real problem is subtle changes in other indicators. Like when the little needle that SHOULD say turn 5 degrees left to avoid running in to a mountain instead says turn 5 degrees right.

There have also been a few so far unexplained cases of digital autopilots briefly going crazy. Things like commanding full left wing down or full nose up for a second, then going back to normal. No faults found (as we say in the business), and the results can't be duplicated. Maybe cosmic rays, maybe man-made interference.
1626) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Diamond Jubilee of Queen Elizabeth II (Message 1192126)
Posted 7 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For that price, it should be more than just the glasses that get blown...
1627) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : Can Alec Baldwin Crash a Plane With a Cell Phone? (Message 1192125)
Posted 7 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Right on Eric! I get asked the same question a lot. (I make my living testing airplanes, and things like how cell phones might effect them.) A lot of people don't like what I tell them. You are correct that the odds of a bad result are small, but the consequences of said bad result can include 300 people (including yourself) dieing in a fiery crash. I'm always amazed that some people actually think it should be there choice if they die in a fiery crash or not. Don't the other 299 people get a vote? In my opinion, each of them gets a veto.

So the next time I get rude with people in those situations (the possibility of a fiery death always brings out the worst in me), I will send them to your blog.
1628) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Diamond Jubilee of Queen Elizabeth II (Message 1192032)
Posted 6 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm all for the Queen, as long as the Brits keep paying for her.

Bad news Bill, counting the governor general, it cost us a few shackles every year. The Monarchist League of Canada claims $1.53 per Canadian.
Still I say good on Ya’ Your Majesty!


That's still a whole lot less than Little Stevie Harper costs me. And the Governor General doesn't count, he/she is our choice, our benefit, and therefore our expense.
1629) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's on your desktop (Message 1192004)
Posted 6 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I rotate through airplane photos, changing every week or two. I select them on historical interest, or plain beauty, or, in this case, some of both.
1630) Message boards : Cafe SETI : So much for expiry dates (Message 1191954)
Posted 6 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It has been said that, left sealed and undisturbed, a package of Twinkies would still be good in a decade....LOL.


Strictly speaking, it will be "as good as it ever was" in a decade...
1631) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Diamond Jubilee of Queen Elizabeth II (Message 1191953)
Posted 6 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm all for the Queen, as long as the Brits keep paying for her.
1632) Message boards : Cafe SETI : So much for expiry dates (Message 1191748)
Posted 5 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For some foods, the expiry date can be treated as a half-life...

It also depends on how hungry you are. Cheese, wine, and lots of other good stuff were discovered by really hungry people without any choices left.
1633) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Have you driven a Ford lately? (Message 1191743)
Posted 5 Feb 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

I had a Ford Windstar 1995 first year model. It had the 3.8 liter engine which usually blew a head gasket around 60-70 thousand miles. Ford at first refused to stand behind the Engine. I joined a class action suit and eventually recovered all of my $3500 cost to replace the engine.



I wish I had known about your class action suit when I scrapped my 1996 Winstar in 2001. What a piece of crap. The engine was the big problem, with everything else on the vehicle tied for second. Stray noises, wiring coming apart, body trim falling off, seat upholstery coming undone at the seams, etc., etc., etc. It put us right off Fords, even though my Dad was a Ford man for as long as I can remember.

Having said that, I sometimes rent small Fords when travelling on business, and they seem to be getting better. I still won't buy one though.
1634) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #42 (Message 1190086)
Posted 30 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Will you PLEASE put down that cell phone!
1635) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #42 (Message 1188328)
Posted 25 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, some folks do deal with life outside of Seti SOMETIMES.......



What? Hard to picture...
1636) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #42 (Message 1188294)
Posted 25 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
New thread started, anxiously awaiting Steven's photo.
1637) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #41 (Message 1188041)
Posted 24 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Note to Steven and the mods: probably time to start a new thread, and lock this one.
1638) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Are You Listening Too...... (Message 1188023)
Posted 24 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Listening to my wife rant about something she has completely no control over and she's totally irrational about it. Just nodding head and saying ok until she comes to her senses.

I'm sending Eric over to participate in Blurf-Boot-Camp. As a scientist Eric sometimes tries to find logical solutions to my irrational problems. Not helpful!


It took me many years to understand that fundamental difference between men and women. Men will share a problem in hopes of finding a solution. Women will share a probelm in hopes of sympathy, or just for the heck of it.

But back on topic. I'm developing a major admiration for Bill Frissell.
1639) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #41 (Message 1188019)
Posted 24 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
They're all good, like usual. My selections are partly random, and mostly arbitrary.

Third place to Angela:
I told Eric not to post any of our fantasy role playing pictures on the internet!!!!!

Second place to rob smith:
That's it, he's at full stretch, so traverse quickly to the left, then scoot up another floor, wait for him to appear, then traverse to the right....

And first prize goes to Steven Meyer, who probably caught the raccoon's true feelings:
Forget that dang noose! Get the net! Get the net NOW!
1640) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OK but why? (Message 1187894)
Posted 24 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The company is an Austrian firm, Liebherr. The other language is German. The machine operator is insane.

Europeans who haven't been sued in North America yet think this sort of stuff is cool.

"Well yer Honor, I saw this German guy doin' this in a YouTube video, so I thought..."
1641) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #41 (Message 1187736)
Posted 23 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We may have to exclude Angela from this one. you know, insider trading ...

1642) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #41 (Message 1187725)
Posted 23 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'd like to thank my producer, and the Academy, and ...

Give me a few minutes to find a picture.
1643) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update XI - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1187151)
Posted 21 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
300 Club?

Still if it could be done, with proper marketing one could do a lot of good for some project or other. (Hint, hint.)


I'm printing up the "I froze my ****s off for SETI" bumper stickers. Make your checkes payable to CASH.
1644) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #41 (Message 1187150)
Posted 21 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Kit motorcycle? I thought you said kid.
1645) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Despair - a definition (Message 1187033)
Posted 21 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
"Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker."

By Ogden Nash. He titled this brief poem "On Breaking The Ice".

1646) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1186683)
Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Scarecrow's post made me think of this.

This one goes out to all the Marty Robins fans out there.
1647) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh, Amazon (Message 1186681)
Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We all have our private monkeys Kenzie, and it seems Amazon caters to them all. I'm trying to figure out how to spend an Amazon gift card received at the most recent semi-religious holiday, and it will probably go on obscure jazz CDs. But which ones? Oh, the indecision.
1648) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 5 (Message 1186678)
Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
About to crack open a Samuel Smith's Winter Ale, my last surviving Christmas present. Watch this space.
1649) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The most unusual place you have logged onto the cafe (Message 1186577)
Posted 19 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Starbucks everywhere.

Airports everywhere (including Finland, Sweden, and Holland).

Via train between London and Toronto.

Food court of an Edmonton shopping mall last week.

A few libraries.
1650) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU cooling issues (Message 1183374)
Posted 7 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just discovered this thread. I think Jason has the best input. You are all trying to discuss many different combinations of hardware, packaging and cooling, which means there are many different "right" answers.

Some basic engineering principals:

Heat is bad for electronics.

Moving air moves heat. This may cool some components, and heat others.

Unless you want me to implement specific solutions for your specific hardware (rates available on request) I would suggest you get a program like Speedfan that lets you log temperatures over time, and start a controlled test program. Vary ONE thing at a time. This will find your best solution. The next person will find another best solution, for their package.
1651) Message boards : Number crunching : Case on or case off... (Message 1183369)
Posted 7 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A properly designed case will improve airflow, and thus improve cooling. A case designed to be cheap to produce may not. Get yourself a program that will log temperatures, like Speedfan, and try it both ways.

And then let the rest of us know what you found :).
1652) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Are You Listening Too...... (Message 1182976)
Posted 5 Jan 2012 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7vVeagH06c David Wilcox - Do The Bearcat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvOkt2lhxFQ David Wilcox: That Hypnotizin' Boogie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmEu-r1GUeo David Wilcox: Bad Apple

Some people call me a bad apple
but I may be the sweetest apple on the tree :)



All from his first, and probably his best, album. Love this stuff.
1653) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wondering how to say 'thanks'.... (Message 1181639)
Posted 30 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Message received Mark. And back at you.
1654) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1179394)
Posted 19 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Unless anyone really protests (and I really notice) I will give the win to WinterKnight. PM on the way.
1655) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1179380)
Posted 19 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
WinterKnight is 50% there. Niagara on the Lake is a little town nearby the monument, but old man Brock is not within the town limits.
1656) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1179178)
Posted 19 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Your American history is better than mine Chris. I always thought Stonewall and Andrew were the same guy.

Yes, the War of 1812.
1657) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1179073)
Posted 18 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, My USA histry is sketchy ;-) How about the 1812 war? 1812

Andrew Jackson?

New Orleans


Getting warmer, but not Stonewall and not New Orleans.
1658) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1179067)
Posted 18 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The American Rebellion started over 236 years ago. Well before this dude.
1659) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1179061)
Posted 18 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have a correct answer in a PM, from an "insider" who is willing to let someone else have the win.

Not Berlin.
Not Nelson.
The border he faces is to his east.
Zeus is pretty close on dates.

If I don't get anything by tonight I will post a close up of the dude on top.
1660) Message boards : Number crunching : To the Seti unfaithful........... (Message 1179060)
Posted 18 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There are many of us who simply want to accelerate the SETI research. Enough said.

=+S


I agree.
1661) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1178997)
Posted 18 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thank you Sten-Arne. Now get your hooks into this one. Need the name of the individual at the top, and the location.

1662) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1178931)
Posted 17 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This object is called a bale hook in Canada, or even just a baler (by old folks). Depending on the time of year, it can be used to move hay bales, or blocks of ice.

They also feature in low budget horror movies....
1663) Message boards : Number crunching : To the Seti unfaithful........... (Message 1178722)
Posted 17 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Timber!

And you do perhaps not notice my 10,2 million credit on PrimeGrid?

If you did not notice........
You are on the Seti boards now.......
PG credits do not hold a candle to Seti creds.
Don't even start to get my dander up about that.


I have WAY more points on Halo.
1664) Message boards : Number crunching : Pulleez stop the whining........... (Message 1178556)
Posted 16 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very well said.
1665) Message boards : Number crunching : Shutting Down the "Big Rigs" (Message 1178387)
Posted 16 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
musicplayer wrote:
...
Does it all relate to the subject...

No, none of it does.
                                                                   Joe

ROFL...


Me too.
1666) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You are encouraged to pay a penalty (Message 1177626)
Posted 13 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I guess it is that time of the year all over. Just got an e-mail allegedly from the Canadian tax guys, with the title

"Authemtication Management System Valide Your Identity"

The sender is "noreplay@..."

Apart from that it sort of looks real.
1667) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #40 (Message 1177136)
Posted 10 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, now I see why they call the team The Giants.
1668) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #40 (Message 1176751)
Posted 9 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Like many elephants, Dumbo had an irrational fear of minivans.
1669) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #40 (Message 1175929)
Posted 5 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The only way to get this pig airborne on a hot day...
1670) Message boards : Number crunching : best backup project? (Message 1175692)
Posted 4 Dec 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I find the premise of Milky Way extremely interesting, but it is just as flakey as S@H. Maybe worse. If you use it as a backup it should not be your only backup.

Sort of space related is Constellation. They always seem to have work, and I rarely see upload/download issues.
1671) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Gray Cup 2011 (Message 1174178)
Posted 28 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
...I have always been a Green Rider fan,


Or as we called them in Alberta, the Safeway Roughriders.

1672) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Are You Listening Too...... (Message 1174168)
Posted 28 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just listened to this in the car, after delivering number one son back to the sticks for his co-op. If you love old pop/rock, and stories from insiders, give it a try.
1673) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Gray Cup 2011 (Message 1174166)
Posted 28 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For us old time westerners, its a win-win. To me both Winnipeg and Vancouver are western teams. The east loses. Again.

This is all due to the on-again off-again attitude Montreal has for pro sports teams. That's even harder to explain to non-Canadians than two teams with the same name.
1674) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1173668)
Posted 25 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In Santa Monica?
1675) Message boards : News : "Are We Alone?" The Great Debate (Message 1173519)
Posted 24 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

1) Why was Pangaea all scrunched up on one side anyway?

I assumed it would be strung out symmetrical about the earth if it had been there for billions of years. Had it drifted back together after a previous separation or is it the remnants of a collision with another body?


The continents are not very symmetrical now (mostly in the Northern Hemisphere), so why would they ever be symmetrical? We see some pretty non-symmetrical features on other planets in the solar system as well. Some of those were caused by collisions, so your question about collision with another body may be very relevant.

I believe Pangaea is a hypothesis that says the continents we see today were once joined. It doesn't say anything about other continents that may have come and gone in the mean time. In other words, who knows what the parts of the planet that were not Pangaea looked like back then?

The variations in height that produce continents and oceans are very very small, when viewed on a global scale. The existence of dry land at all is just random scatter in the data. Looking out my window on a rainy November day in the Northern Hemisphere I could almost believe dry land is a myth.
1676) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1173507)
Posted 24 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winner! PM on the way to Carlos now.
1677) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1173455)
Posted 24 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Victoria BC


Half way there. Need a name as well.
1678) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1173403)
Posted 24 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Eastern Half?


I assume you mean of the country - no.

I have a correct answer in a PM, from a local. They have offered to give the rest of you till tomorrow.
1679) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1173218)
Posted 23 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
John - no.

Zeus - yes.
1680) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1173117)
Posted 23 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, time to narrow it down a bit.

North America?


Yes.
1681) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1173102)
Posted 23 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks. Try this. Name the building, and the town where it is located.

mystery2011 by wtbalance, on Flickr
1682) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 26 (Message 1172997)
Posted 22 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is the mini-Eiffel tower in Brussels.
1683) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Are You Listening Too...... (Message 1172031)
Posted 18 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Radio Mozart. Pretty good quality for Internet radio.
1684) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Celt Tooth (Message 1171443)
Posted 16 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Happy birthday, eh.
1685) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #40 (Message 1170768)
Posted 13 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A little to the right. Bit more. Bit more. STOPSTOPSTOP!!!!!!
1686) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Are You Listening Too...... (Message 1170294)
Posted 12 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just finished listening to Oscar Peterson, Live at The Blue Note from 1990. You can probably find a crappy version on Youtube, but I listened to a much better CD.

Here it is. The CD is so much better.
1687) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a caption #39 (Message 1169287)
Posted 9 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Finish it ALL or there's no dessert.
1688) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many clocks do you have to adjust? (Message 1168736)
Posted 6 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Too many. I'm with you James.
1689) Message boards : Politics : Soft touch Britain? (Message 1167936)
Posted 5 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Welcome to the 21st Century. This type of thing has been going on in North America for a while. It has a purpose.

You need a country run by rules, and the rules need to apply to everyone, including illegal immigrants. There are countries where this doesn't work - you read about them in the news every day. You don't want to live in a country like that.

You break the rules, you pay. It doesn't matter if you are the government. Rules are rules. If you pay enough you start to learn this, and you stop breaking rules. Or, in a democracy, you can change the rules if you have to.

We are all better off in the long run, although it can be annoying in the short run. Just remember, the next time the government breaks the rules it might not be with an illegal immigrant. It might be you or me.
1690) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stupid question (Message 1167551)
Posted 3 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If you join a Team, your points can be added to their points. That's why you get requests to join. And by the way, Team points are just as valuable as individual points.

It can also give you access to a new forum, and a way to compare your points to others in the Team. That's why I'm thinking of starting the Left Handed Grey Haired Bearded Chubby White Guys Team. I know you're out there.
1691) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News IV (Message 1167455)
Posted 3 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I had to create a new account to get back in. Interestingly, it had my City name already loaded in the new account. All very strange.
1692) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News IV (Message 1167278)
Posted 2 Nov 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Has anyone logged onto Hydra lately? Right now it is telling I have the wrong user ID or password, but it is using both from a cookie. Retyping both from scratch gave same results.
1693) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Battlefield 3 (Message 1166145)
Posted 29 Oct 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Mike. I'm going to try some of these new fangled games when I finish the last level of Tetris.
1694) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News IV (Message 1165895)
Posted 28 Oct 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hooray! I'm not at the bottom of the list anymore!
1695) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 5 (Message 1161062)
Posted 10 Oct 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ahh, Spitfire. Downed all over Kent, just like ....
1696) Message boards : Number crunching : HE connection problems thread (Message 1159514)
Posted 6 Oct 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

And as there is not any problem reported by the staff, I understand that everything is just fine as it is now, and that I shall say goodbye to Seti@Home for good, after this 12 years.


Have you read any of the numerous threads about connection problems? Have you tried using a proxy?

Everybody's access is hit amd miss right now, but there are work arounds.
1697) Message boards : Number crunching : Wailing And Gnashing Of Teeth (Message 1159184)
Posted 5 Oct 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm too old to wail, and my teeth can't take any more gnashing. Instead, I'm staring into space with a resigned look on my face.

Come to think of it, that's what I do most days.
1698) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 5 (Message 1158398)
Posted 2 Oct 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The sun is always over the yard arm somewhere in the Empire.

To my surprise, I am currently enjoying a (relatively) light beer. 4.2 %.

1699) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update X - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1158396)
Posted 2 Oct 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Rugby, football, whatever. I'd like to see any of them give a solid hit on skates.

1700) Message boards : Technical News : Drive (Aug 11 2011) (Message 1158391)
Posted 2 Oct 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You will probably be OK, if your wing person doesn't post before you do. Odds are they are bogged down as well. Read the HE connection problems thread in Number Crunching for a work around that sometimes works from Canada.
1701) Message boards : Number crunching : HE connection problems thread (Message 1157856)
Posted 1 Oct 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Based on pinging, etc. it appears the HE connection problem comes and goes for me. When the problem is here, my messages say "BOINC can't access the Internet". That tells me its time to switch to a proxy, clear my uploads and fill my cache. I can't leave it on proxy, since some of the other projects don't work then. That is more babysitting than I normally do with BOINC, but it keeps me crunching.
1702) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (56) Server problems? (Message 1157547)
Posted 30 Sep 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Keep the functionality of the system at this level for a few more weeks, and so many impatient "instant satisfactionalists", would have left, that the current level of functionality would be more than enough to those of us who are still here.

LOL



Eventually, it will just be Sten-Arne and me. Oh, and the 90%+ of users who never read these Forums.
1703) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's up with the weather in London!? (Message 1157284)
Posted 29 Sep 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
(He's got a posh one with a rotisserie.)


I thought that was a Belgian pastry shop?


You're thinking of a brasserie. They sell, um, you know.
1704) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's up with the weather in London!? (Message 1156804)
Posted 28 Sep 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So far the London weather has been pretty seasonal. Good day time temperatures, great cool evenings, and lots of rain to keep the yard green. I'm loving it. http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/on-137_metric_e.html

Oh. You probably mean THAT London.
1705) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update X - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1156398)
Posted 26 Sep 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The Halloween village is a recent thing here, in a country that (I always thought) really celebrated Halloween.

There have always been people here who decorated their houses at Halloween, and some of them do go a little over the top. Just around the corner from us we have a house that does first rate (if not over the top) decorations for Halloween, including "live" spooks and ghouls around the property on the actual evening. It should be mentioned that the same house also borders on over-the-top at Thanksgiving, Easter, and Christmas.
1706) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (56) Server problems? (Message 1156350)
Posted 26 Sep 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
FYI, proxies are helping me with S@H, but WCG does not seem to like them. MW, Einstein, CPDN, Rosseta and Constellation are OK with proxies.
1707) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (55) Server problems? (Message 1156067)
Posted 25 Sep 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Stepping back a bit from the details, I suggest that the number of users currently requesting work has exceeded the ability of S@H to generate, distribute, and process work. If everybody feeling upset, left out, ignored, etc. would just quit and go away, the rest of us would be better off.

Only joking.
1708) Message boards : Number crunching : OK - What Is Realy Wrong With SETI/BOINC? (Message 1156065)
Posted 25 Sep 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
After re-reading the original design goals of S@H, I don't see anything wrong. It works sometimes, doesn't work other times. Way back in 2002, Dr. K et al stated:

"Keeping the server system running has been the most difficult and expensive part of SETI@home. The sources of failure, both hardware and software, have seemed limitless."

If it was easy, everybody would be doing it.
1709) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Manager or SETI issue? (Message 1155078)
Posted 23 Sep 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
MW n-body tasks use both cores of a dual CPU for one task. In the Tasks tab of BOINC Manager you will see the message "running - 2 CPUs" (or something similar) for the task when this happens. I have never seen anything like this for World Community Grid. Or SETI.
1710) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can you draw a stick-man? (Message 1155029)
Posted 22 Sep 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What fun!
1711) Message boards : Number crunching : A Vote For The Right To Choose Our Own Wingmen??? (Message 1151276)
Posted 11 Sep 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think that stopping cheats is only part of the reason for duplicating (at a minimum) each WU. Given the fast range of hardware being used, the chance always exists for some "feature" of somebody's cruncher that results in a wrong answer, without erroring out.
1712) Message boards : Number crunching : A Vote For The Right To Choose Our Own Wingmen??? (Message 1150886)
Posted 10 Sep 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well said.
1713) Message boards : Number crunching : A Vote For The Right To Choose Our Own Wingmen??? (Message 1150522)
Posted 9 Sep 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Mark is correct (as usual). Some of the cheating was sort of ingenious. Some people take this as a challenge. Some are even concerned about their RAC.

Takes all kinds...
1714) Message boards : Number crunching : Gripes and Kudos (Message 1150521)
Posted 9 Sep 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Gripe: This project has to be the most keyboard biting, tower punching, insanely unpredictable, underfunded, bizare, adictive, rediculously optamistic, potentialy mankind changing idea that anybody with an idea has ever come up with.

Kudos: Would not have it any other way.


; )

Regards,
Andy


+1
1715) Message boards : Number crunching : Gripes and Kudos (Message 1149599)
Posted 7 Sep 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Gripe: people who feel their opinion really counts because they have contributed more than x% of all WUs ever done in the entire history of mankind. So what?

Kudos: This thread for letting me vent.
1716) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Russian cargo rocket for the ISS crashes..... (Message 1147577)
Posted 31 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For better or worse, the Russians have a track record of quickly identifying problems, and quickly implementing fixes. We have seen problems with their manned launchers before, but we have never seen the multi-year programs to return to flight like we have seen with the Shuttle.

Not saying one way is better than the other, just pointing out the historical differences.
1717) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Russian cargo rocket for the ISS crashes..... (Message 1146913)
Posted 29 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think "abandoned" is a bit strong. NASA official in an interview says the station may go "uncrewed" for a few months, but still be run from the ground. Crews will return once the Russian upper stage issue is sorted out.
1718) Message boards : Number crunching : Member helps member which have connection problems. (Message 1146316)
Posted 28 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I bit the bullet today and used a proxy, from the other thread on this topic. First contact with the servers in 6 days, 196 tasks uploaded but of course no downloads for now.
1719) Message boards : Technical News : The Owl in Daylight (Aug 24 2011) (Message 1145509)
Posted 26 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, I have more credit than 98.36% of all users, and I think S@H is great.

And I have never seen a distributed computing project as large as S@H. Better or worse.

Anyway, off you go, and thanks for the extra WUs the rest of us will get.
1720) Message boards : Cafe SETI : online music site (Message 1144404)
Posted 24 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Re trademarks: a few decades ago an employer of mine spent a fair bit of money to prove to the satisfaction of a court that a trade mark for a swimming pool cleaning chemical would not be confused with an identical trademark for a pulpwood processing machine (that had not been built for about 25 years). Yes, different industries can have the same trademark, but the lawyers will still take their pound of flesh (nothing personal Slavic).
1721) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Post your age, if you dare. (Message 1144403)
Posted 24 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Almost a year past since this thread started, and still no more birthdays for me. I did, however, recently celebrate the 20th anniversary of my 39th birthday.
1722) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In case you were wondering... (Message 1143958)
Posted 22 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The real problem is accountants.

Any designer/engineer worth his/her salt knows that the design (paper or CAD) is just one step in a marketable, producible product. Next comes prototyping, then various levels of testing, etc. As I like to tell my non-technical bosses, "all it takes is time and money".

Accountants have taken over the world, for better or worse. They read some marketing blurb about how CAD replaces prototyping, and they believe it. And given their new powers, they enforce it. The designer/engineer can protest, but it comes down to getting your paycheck at the end of the week.

Recent quotes from accountant background bosses. These were all uttered with a straight face.

"It's all in the computer. What's taking you so long?"
"Company X has an ad that says they can do it in three weeks. Why do we need 4?"
"We can't afford prototypes/field testing/revisions/etc. any more. Stop doing it."
"Maybe the customer won't care, just ship it."
"Fix what you can, just ship it by Thursday."

And my all time favorite:
"... and cutting the test budget will also result in fewer problems to fix."
1723) Message boards : Number crunching : Maintence Day (Message 1143787)
Posted 22 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ahh, the answer appears to be political. It would
interfere with government mandated holidays.

Personally, I think it would decrease downtime overall,
but, we'll never know.


I think that is a bit of oversimplification. People expect holidays, mandated or not. You can ask them to give them up, but you will pay a long term price in staff performance, and eventually staff migration. Been there, both as a hard-assed manager and as a fed up employee.

And what will we do when there is a Monday holiday? Skip a week's worth of maintenance? Sometimes have maintenance on Tuesdays? Prices to pay for both of those options as well.

As often happens in life, you set out looking for a good solution, but may have to settle for the "least bad" solution.
1724) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My next 'new' car........ (Message 1143059)
Posted 20 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Haven't any of you ever heard of the Handy Man's secret weapon, duct tape?
Now keep your stick on the ice.


If the women can't find you handsome, they can at least find you handy.
1725) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 5 (Message 1142580)
Posted 19 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A beernado ....

I love Mother Nature.
1726) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 5 (Message 1140265)
Posted 14 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Best Beers in United Kingdom

The United Kingdom citizens have preferred ales in place of lagers for the past several centuries. However, lager beers have been gaining ground in Britain also and the sales of regional ales have been affected seriously by big national lager brands. Carling, previously known as Carling Black Label, is the largest selling beer in Britain, which is originally from Canada. Equally surprising is the fact that the Australian beer brand, Foster’s Lager, is in second place in the United Kingdom, followed by Stella Artois of Belgium and Carlsberg of Netherlands.


And Carling, sadly, is very hard to find in Canada these days. They used to have ads on radio and TV where people would ask the cute bar maid for "Mable, more Black Label." This lead to a popular saying whenever anybody got a little too rowdy in the bar: "Get off the table Mable, the money is for the beer." Ah, memories of a misspent youth.


From ask.uk.com (emphisis added by me because that is the kind of guy I am). What it means, I guess, is nobody really knows.

The beer industry is closely guarded when it comes to sales statistics, partly because it is dominated by a handful of huge companies, such as Anheuser-Busch InBev and SABMiller. Anheuser-Busch InBev sells beer under brands such as Budweiser, Stella Artois, Beck's, Brahma, Bud Light, Skol, Labatt Blue, and Michelob. SABMiller, headquartered in London, sells Grolsch, Miller Genuine Draft, Peroni Nastro Azzurro and Pilsner Urquell. Also, some companies report beer sales combining a few brands, while others report sales per brand. Finally, the measurement used to track the sales can be either monetary unit or volume (usually by hectolitres). Having understood all these variables, it is believed that Anheuser-Busch InBev's Bud Light is the best selling single trademark brand by volume, followed by regular Budweiser.
1727) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 5 (Message 1140237)
Posted 13 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I read somewhere that Budweiser is currently the best selling beer in the UK. Locally brewed, of course. I blame it all on those kids today.
1728) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stunned at a call I just took (Message 1139191)
Posted 12 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well in the USA we have this thing: The do not call list.


We have one in Canada too. The government sub-contracted it to - wait for it - Bell. You can imagine how effective it is.
1729) Message boards : Number crunching : What settings to keep this laptop cool (Message 1138825)
Posted 11 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I use Speedfan to make sure my Toshiba Satellite T5750 lap top is around 60C to 65C core temps. This means setting the CPU usage to 75% in winter and 70% in summer in BOINC preferences. I know this is below the allowable CPU temps, but I find that higher CPU temps make parts of the case uncomfortable to touch for any length of time. I'm running BOINC 24/7 on this machine, and working on "real" stuff 8 to 10 hours a day.

And as others have said, regular cleaning helps. Also, I've always kept my laptops slightly elevated at the back, to increase airflow into the bottom mounted fan inlet. This is good for 5C to 10C lower temps.
1730) Message boards : Number crunching : HE connection problems thread (Message 1138657)
Posted 10 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Uploads and downloads have just started for me, for now....

But still slow. Pinging earlier today showed 100% loss, now it is:

Pinging 208.68.240.13 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 208.68.240.13: bytes=32 time=146ms TTL=50
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 208.68.240.13:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 1, Lost = 3 (75% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 146ms, Maximum = 146ms, Average = 146ms
1731) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 21 (Message 1138490)
Posted 10 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In Canada?
1732) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 21 (Message 1138471)
Posted 10 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
(Why is Greenland called "Green land" when most of it is white?)


Because it was named by a real estate agent.

Back on topic: sink holes, in a marsh. Louisiana area?
1733) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Female explorer wanted for companionship. (Message 1138343)
Posted 10 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Er yes, we've heard about your peccadillo .....


Is that what you Brits are calling it these days?
1734) Message boards : Number crunching : HE connection problems thread (Message 1138332)
Posted 10 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here is a trace route from Canada. no uploads or downloads to this machine for 2 days now. If I understand this correctly, I'm reaching he.net (Hurricane Electric?) but not beyond?

Tracing route to boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.13]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 4 ms 8 ms 9 ms WIFALKER [192.168.1.1]
2 10 ms 18 ms 19 ms dsl2.ody.ca [216.240.3.22]
3 10 ms 10 ms 8 ms dsl2.ody.ca [216.240.3.21]
4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 204.101.4.201
5 25 ms 28 ms 29 ms bx5-chicagodt_xe3-1-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.186.
246]
6 30 ms 24 ms 29 ms 10gigabitethernet4-1.core1.chi1.he.net [206.223.
119.37]
7 79 ms 78 ms 80 ms 10gigabitethernet3-2.core1.den1.he.net [184.105.
213.86]
8 84 ms 99 ms 98 ms 10gigabitethernet4-4.core1.sjc2.he.net [184.105.
213.105]
9 90 ms 88 ms 98 ms 10gigabitethernet3-2.core1.pao1.he.net [72.52.92
.69]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
... and so on to 30 steps

Very similar results for .16
1735) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 21 (Message 1138313)
Posted 10 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sink holes, somewhere on the Tundra?
1736) Message boards : Technical News : Radar (Aug 09 2011) (Message 1138312)
Posted 10 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
New problem in Canada as well, not able to upload for 2 days now:

10/08/2011 7:37:38 AM | SETI@home | Started upload of 06mr11ab.1616.1467.11.10.55_1_0
10/08/2011 7:37:38 AM | SETI@home | Started upload of 23ap11ae.9059.13564.14.10.248.vlar_0_0
10/08/2011 7:38:01 AM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed upload of 06mr11ab.1616.1467.11.10.55_1_0: connect() failed
10/08/2011 7:38:01 AM | SETI@home | Backing off 11 hr 13 min 23 sec on upload of 06mr11ab.1616.1467.11.10.55_1_0
10/08/2011 7:38:01 AM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed upload of 23ap11ae.9059.13564.14.10.248.vlar_0_0: connect() failed
10/08/2011 7:38:01 AM | SETI@home | Backing off 9 hr 0 min 50 sec on upload of 23ap11ae.9059.13564.14.10.248.vlar_0_0
10/08/2011 7:38:02 AM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
10/08/2011 7:38:04 AM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
1737) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 21 (Message 1137588)
Posted 8 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Teangue, Isle of Skye?
1738) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What I did this summer (Message 1137351)
Posted 7 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
from Calgary west, or did you go from Edmonton to Rupert?

From Vancouver to the Okanogan near Salmon Arm. Lots of trees. Lots and lots of trees.



That's not really "across BC". It's just in a little bit.
1739) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a caption #36 (Message 1136233)
Posted 5 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK that's ten. First, let me thank you all for remembering this is a family forum. My ideas for captions would have been very quickly modded.

Third is Hu Flung Dung for
Wall Street unleashed.


Second is John McLeod VII with
Nuclear wedgie.


And the winner, as I half-expected, is that old Iowa cow hand Scarecrow with
You stick your bull nose in, you pull your bull nose out.....
- or -
Now it's my turn to be on top, buckaroo!

Either one would have won. PM going out on the next bull.
1740) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update IX - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1136063)
Posted 4 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Whale of a good video KLC. Makes me blubber.
1741) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a caption #36 (Message 1136061)
Posted 4 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It's Stampede week, so try this one.

1742) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a caption #36 (Message 1135921)
Posted 4 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks James! I'm off to work, will look for something this evening.
1743) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 21 (Message 1135863)
Posted 4 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Take it away KWSN. It was originally built as a jail and court house, later was just a court house, and now is the municipal archives office. PM to be sent.

And Simonator, the Europeans that settled here about 250 years ago must have been very homesick. Within a two hour drive of London, Ontario we have Stratford (on a river called Avon), Thamesford, Thamesville, Cheltenham, Dorchester, Scarborough, Whitby, Essex, Strathroy, Hamburg, Breslau, Dresden, Paris and Zurich. Another hour out are Bath, Wellington, Buckingham and Athens. We used to have a Berlin, but it got renamed in 1914 as Kitchener.
1744) Message boards : Cafe SETI : For All Us Baby-Boomers - Part II (Message 1135559)
Posted 3 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Early ones used wire recorders. some also used ink coated plastic tape that was "scratched" to make a permanent mark.

Lots of tape recorders still in use, but mostly digital signal format. Newer ones use solid state recorders.
1745) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 21 (Message 1135554)
Posted 3 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Julie - no.

Michael - no, approximately 990 feet ASL. Your first hint.

Second hint - fir trees grow at lower altitudes at higher latitudes.
1746) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 21 (Message 1135336)
Posted 3 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Julie - no.

Gary - has been both, now is partly one but not the other.
1747) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 21 (Message 1135288)
Posted 2 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thank you Celt Tooth. Here is another easy one. Name the building (any of its several names over the years), and the place:

1748) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 21 (Message 1135245)
Posted 2 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sri Lanka, formerly known as Ceylon.
1749) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a caption #36 (Message 1135193)
Posted 2 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
[small dog voice]"¡Yo quiero ambulancia!"[/small dog voice]
1750) Message boards : Cafe SETI : For All Us Baby-Boomers - Part II (Message 1135190)
Posted 2 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris, I had a very similar "portable record player", a hand-me-down to me at 13 when the family upgraded to a proper stereo in a cabinet. It launched me on a life time passion of tweaking, as I replaced the stylus and played with the tracking force, and later wired it for headphones with the help of a techie buddy. Did you know that if you set the tracking force really high you can get a nice curl of black plastic off the record?

The last 16 RPM records I saw were for the Test of English as a Second Language that I had to take in 1970 (long story). The records played someone reading a story, then I had to answer multiple choice questions.

And Karen: yes, we did some "green" thing back then. We also used gasoline to kill weeds in the driveway, dumped left over paint down the household drain (which went straight into the nearest river), and used DDT on everything and everyone.
1751) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Our Trip To Finland (Message 1134760)
Posted 1 Aug 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nice pictures Angela, brought back memories. If I remember correctly, Kuopio is known for small fish baked into a loaf of bread. I loved it. Everywhere I went in Finland had a local special fish dish, usually fresh water, usually pickled in some way. That was good food.

As for the pizza thing, most Europeans use a knife and fork, and most Europeans have their own version of what they think is a pizza. I don't always agree with them, but then I'm basing that on the local version of pizza in the places where I grew up.

I always make an effort to eat locally when travelling. In the modern world everywhere I go has their version of pizza or a cheeseburger, but it usually isn't worth the time or the money.
1752) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 21 (Message 1132936)
Posted 28 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Static discharge whick?

I'm about to leave on 4 days vacation, if that is right somebody else can have the win.
1753) Message boards : Number crunching : credits and workunits: a fair system needed for Boinc (Message 1132515)
Posted 27 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What he said.
1754) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Callahan's Crosstime Saloon (Message 1132282)
Posted 26 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
iguess i should start hoarding looneys and tooneys...
since the us dollar will be worth squat in a day or two.


The correct spelling is loonie and toonie. And the loonie just hit a 5 year high. Or the greenback just hit a five year low, depending on your point of view.
1755) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No Respect for us long time Crunchers (Message 1132277)
Posted 26 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I had a draft number back in 1970, the first year I worked with a serious digital computer (desperate bid to stay on topic). It was an IBM the size of a fridge with 640K of RAM.

As a foreigner with a student visa I think I was classed as a 1F. In the event of war I would be exchanged as a hostage.
1756) Message boards : Number crunching : "...not requesting new tasks." ??? (Message 1132044)
Posted 26 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I literally just want to set and forget this app. and have my lab machines chug along on autopilot.


You can, but don't expect to always have your machines crunching. Any project will run out of work, or be down, or a surplus of users / lack of servers will limit data distribution. But - BOINC will reconnect when it can, and get you work when it can.

All you have to do is sit back and wait for the credits to roll in.
1757) Message boards : Number crunching : credits and workunits: a fair system needed for Boinc (Message 1131819)
Posted 25 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm beginning to see some merit in Phud's idea. The individual user can track hours per WU to see if their tweaks and hardware upgrades have the intended results. Changes in WU size and/or complexity (which will continue to happen) will just require you to "wait a bit" till the numbers settle down again.

Still not sure about cross project comparisons though. Anything done will be subject to "players". If Project X make WUs shorter, will that attract some users? Probably, but nothing is gained for the science. If an improvement in Project X science results in longer WUs, will that motivate some users to switch to another project? Probably yes again, despite an improvement in science.

This is my final offer. Do what you like, I'm here for science. If we scare off some users, [shrug]oh well[/shrug]. I haven't seen a forum yet at any project with people complaining about too many users (except occasionally here at S@H). All I ever see is people demanding more WUs. Whether their motive is more science or more credit is really irrelevant, as long as more science gets done.
1758) Message boards : Number crunching : credits and workunits: a fair system needed for Boinc (Message 1131799)
Posted 25 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
i think that in its pure form
just stating the hours spent plus wu's completed
were the honest way to go.


That sort of worked, until GPUs came along. It also gets very meaningless very quickly if you start comparing a S@H shorty WU (minutes to complete) to a CPD WU (months to complete on the same machine). Does the relative completion time reflect the relative value of the science? Now there's a question to debate.

Despite my somewhat cynical earlier post, I do realize that credit is one way of attracting new crunchers, and one way of encouraging crunchers to upgrade hardware. We have to recognize that, and that is where things get complicated. Personally, I'm in it for the science. And the free toaster.
1759) Message boards : Number crunching : credits and workunits: a fair system needed for Boinc (Message 1131789)
Posted 25 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A bazillion credits, plus a buck fifty, will buy you a cup of coffee.

Credits have some meaning to an individual, to provide some measure of crunching power as affected by settings, new hardware, time dedicated, etc. Beyond that they have no meaning. None. Zero. Zip.

One user can work a lot harder to get 50 credits than another user does to get 50 million. Who is the better cruncher? What is a better cruncher? Both questions defy a meaningful answer. Unless you are ready to personally fund an entire project, the 50 RAC user is just as meaningful as the 50 million RAC user. They are both just somebody doing what they can.

Therefore, do what you like with credit, just don't keep changing it. If double credit makes you feel good, good for you. It just confuses me.
1760) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car Racing 2011 (Message 1131417)
Posted 24 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I know what you mean Carlos, but watch it anyway. Three cars, from three teams, trading the lead back and forth. It was great.
1761) Message boards : Number crunching : So What Happened?? (Message 1130754)
Posted 22 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It was the Jeffries tubes again. Had to blow out the accumulated anti-matter ash and residue, then everything worked just fine.
1762) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 20 (Message 1130284)
Posted 21 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If it is close to a Shay, but not a Shay, it must be a Baldwin.
1763) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #35 (Message 1130191)
Posted 20 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Last one out the door has to bail out Greece.
1764) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 20 (Message 1130088)
Posted 20 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Possibly an articulated drive steam locomotive, such as a Shay?
1765) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News IV (Message 1129654)
Posted 19 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well Bill got quite an interesting number this time.


It took weeks of calculation and clever manipulation to arrive at that. Well, not really.
Thanks again for the stats.
1766) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Uli (Message 1129142)
Posted 18 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Alles Gute zum Geburtstag Uli.
1767) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (50) Server problems? (Message 1126743)
Posted 11 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes...but why did you say 'Burma'?


I panicked.
1768) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update IX - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1126297)
Posted 9 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My personal experience with cayenne pepper and dogs:

Many moons ago, we had a beagle / sheppard cross who developed a taste for anything left on the kitchen counter. Food, food wrapping, dishes, etc. On the advice of a friend, we prepared a few cayenne pepper and sandwich meat treats, and left them on the counter. A few minutes after leaving the kitchen, we heard the dog on the counter. Right after that, he wondered in to the room we were sitting in, licking his lips, coughing and generally looking uncomfortable. Us humans felt very smug at that point. He wondered off, we assumed in search of water.

A few minutes later I went into the kitchen, and caught him up on his hind legs, licking the counter where we had left the pepper bombs.

The only thing that cured this dog behaviour was training the humans to not leave stuff on the counter.
1769) Message boards : Number crunching : How are people acheiving the super high RACs? (Message 1125715)
Posted 8 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Lunatic is a one time install, other have described the process in detail in other threads. After that you can leave it alone (or tweak a bit if so inclined). For me, it more than doubled CPU RAC.

BUT ... you need to keep track of updates, and install them manually, unlike the stock apps that get updated by BOINC without any involvement on your part.

Concerning GPUs with Lunatics: my laptop is a dual core 2 year old machine, gets about 800 RAC running S@H 24 hours a day. A have a 5 year old GPU machine that gets 2500+ RAC on GPU alone running S@H.
1770) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Saw this ______ and thought of ______ (Message 1125326)
Posted 6 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
video

Angela
1771) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #35 (Message 1125222)
Posted 6 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Col. Sanders worst nightmare.
1772) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Victor! (Message 1125066)
Posted 6 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Happy birthday Victor!
1773) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Power grid games....or...what's the frequency, Kenneth? (Message 1124176)
Posted 3 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Reminds me of a former employer who told us we all had to go metric ... so we started using 25.4 mm bolts in place of the one inch bolts.
1774) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sunday July 3rd is Eric's Birthday! (Message 1124173)
Posted 3 Jul 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Have a good one Eric.
1775) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update IX - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1122972)
Posted 30 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Well as long as Maya isn't a shape shifter, like Maya was from Space 1999. Now there was a show.


I think you're on to something here Vic. Maya was an alien (as in not human) and therefore counts as a critter.

Come on people. Enough cats, dogs and raccoons. Let's see pictures of your aliens. Here's one of mine:

1776) Message boards : Number crunching : Aborted by user? (Message 1122511)
Posted 28 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My son did some work on my computer last week and it reset the systems clock to December 2009 twice. It didn't effect my work.
This was discussed a few month back and someone provided some type of ezplanaition.


I don't think it matters in that direction Uli. Your computer thinks it's 2009, your deadlines are all in 2011, so bags of time. BOINC could take a nap. ;)

I set the month ahead, so BOINC thought the short deadlines had been passed.
1777) Message boards : Number crunching : Aborted by user? (Message 1122469)
Posted 28 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Possibly related: I recently accidently changed the system clock month on one machine while trying to reset the time zone. As a result, a block of WUs suddenly had completion dates prior to the current system date, all were aborted by BOINC Manager, and all then showed up as "aborted by user". That was true (sort of) but not very informative.
1778) Message boards : Cafe SETI : your very own solar energy project (Message 1121604)
Posted 26 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm going to have to put my foot down, and ask you to step back on the topic. Which was, like, something about girls and electricity. I don't remember so well these days man.
1779) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Barny Frank, Ron Paul: legalize Pot (Message 1121603)
Posted 26 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The legalization, or merely the decriminalization, of marijuana has no downside from what I've researched.
A loss of short term memory and a bad case of munchies, that's about it.
And the medical benefits cannot be disputed.


It also causes memory loss.
1780) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 19 (Message 1120870)
Posted 24 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Anderson AFB in Guam?
1781) Message boards : Number crunching : Rookie mistake (Message 1120583)
Posted 23 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Any who crunch as fast as you dare everyone, I hear Berkeley may throw us a BBQ if we find the aliens!!

They actually did for the 10th Anniversary, dunno when the next one will be ....


The next anniversary is generally one year later.

Oh. Wait. I get it now.
1782) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday ES99 (Message 1120062)
Posted 22 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All the kids are even behaving and even took out the trash without complaining.


It's only one day a year, but you have to take when you can get it.

Happy B'Day Esme.
1783) Message boards : Number crunching : Rookie mistake (Message 1120060)
Posted 22 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

...

If the $50 million estimate is close,
then all we need to do is get every participant
to stop crunching for 4 days each year
and send the saved cost to the project as a cash donation.

...
                                                                 Joe

thank you Joe
I wish there was some way
to start a campaign to make that happen
but as you say Obviously that won't happen.
oh well we can dream
Byron


We can start it one user at a time. Many of us already have.

A general philosophical comment: some posters seem to think they are entitled to WUs, because they built a better computer or contributed money or whatever. Really,this project is about Science, not RAC. Can anybody prove how doing a few extra WUs a day is helping the Science? When I read the Berkely SETI blogs I see people searching for time and money to do science, in order to keep up with us crunchers. I don't see anybody there concerned about too few crunchers.

If you want RAC, head over to something like PrimeGrid. Not knocking them, just pointing out the hard realities. If S@H uses my donation to actually do science (since they seem to be getting free data processing faster than they can use it) that's fine with me.

And Perryjay, thank you for completing your extra WUs, instead of aborting them because they didn't fit your idea of how BOINC should be working.
1784) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday KenzieB (Message 1119561)
Posted 21 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Happy B'Day to Kenzie. Old enough to drink yet?
1785) Message boards : Technical News : Monolith (Jun 14 2011) (Message 1119384)
Posted 20 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thank you Cherokee for confirming my suspicions about the S@H staff. I will now also retire to lurking mode.
1786) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #34 (Message 1118861)
Posted 19 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wow, I never noticed that before. Yours are blue too!
1787) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (48) Server problems? (Message 1118858)
Posted 19 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I tried to tell you guys.

You got to put down the duckie.
1788) Message boards : Cafe SETI : your very own solar energy project (Message 1117864)
Posted 16 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
After reading the article, I want to see a picture of a "coal burning bikini".
1789) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update IX - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1117861)
Posted 16 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Barack and Michelle.
1790) Message boards : Technical News : Monolith (Jun 14 2011) (Message 1117798)
Posted 16 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Common North American usage has the Latin plural used for original (usually biological) usage, and modern "add an s" for non-original usage. For example, a bug has two antennae, but an airplane would have two antennas.

So a sick person could have two virii (or viri), a sick computer could have two viruses. Either case would suck.
1791) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #34 (Message 1117601)
Posted 16 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
[singing]You are the wind beneath my fins[/singing]
1792) Message boards : Number crunching : Speedfan readings (Message 1117137)
Posted 15 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Mine definitely blows from inside the stand up towards the bottom of the laptop, but all temps go up within minutes of plugging in the USB. Then down within minutes of unplugging.

It is possible to stall the laptop fan (or any fan/duct combination)with too high an inlet pressure, but the flow from the stand is pretty low so I doubt that. I suspect that the laptop power supply generates more heat when powering the stand, for a net gain in internal temps after any cooling benefit.
1793) Message boards : Number crunching : Speedfan readings (Message 1117038)
Posted 14 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I spent $15 for a cheap plastic laptop stand. It has a pair of fans that I could run off the USB port, but just elevating the hinge side 3 inches increases the airflow enough that about the only times the internal fan comes on is when it's been in the carry bag on a warm day.


I bought one these on sale as well. According to Speedfan, running the USB fans actually increases my temperatures 1 or 2 C. I don't know if this is the effect of the USB port power draw, or lousy aerodynamic design of the fans. However, just lifting the bottom of the laptop up and allowing more air into the fan inlet on the bottom of the case is good for about 8 to 10 C lower operating temps. I used to get about the same effect with a couple of pencils under the rear of the case, but the stand looks much classier.
1794) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (48) Server problems? (Message 1117022)
Posted 14 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Cricket is down! All I get is big red text saying "Failed to draw graph. Check your server's error log for details." Never saw that before.
1795) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #33 (Message 1116877)
Posted 14 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've only had THIS many beers.
1796) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car Racing 2011 (Message 1116438)
Posted 12 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What a race! With all the rain, the crashes, and the debris on the road, it looked just like driving in down town Montreal.
1797) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (47) Server problems? (Message 1116098)
Posted 12 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, I finally get my Frankenstein GPU machine running again, and S@H goes away. Well shucks.

I suggest we Put Down The Ducky.
1798) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Damn Sat Nav again... (Message 1115873)
Posted 11 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I guess it depends on what you use the GPS for, but I've found that the gov'ment builds new roads slower than I update my GPS. A few trips with an out of date database are not that big a deal for me.

I try (but don't always succeed) to update my Garmin every couple of months at a time when I know I won't need it right away.

My major travelling concern is the length of the line at airport or border security. It is always inversely proportional to the time I have. How do they do that?
1799) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stanley Cup musings........... (Message 1115258)
Posted 10 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
News flash fron Vancouver!

Canucks goalie Luongo attempted sucide this afternoon, by throwing himself in front of a train. Fortunately, it went between his legs.

The old ones are the good ones.
1800) Message boards : Cafe SETI : So, what do you have planned for the end of the world? (Message 1113070)
Posted 4 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Q: What do you get when you cross a JW with a Hell's Angel?

A: A well dressed polite young man who tells YOU to F'off when you answer the door.
1801) Message boards : Number crunching : Quick question about installing side fans. (Message 1112620)
Posted 3 Jun 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The diameter of the bolt should be just a tiny bit smaller than the smallest hole (either in the fan or in the sidewall of the case). A washer is always a good idea. You should only need a penny washer if the hole sizes are really different.

For example, if the hole in the fan is much bigger than the hole in the case, you need a penny washer under the nut on the fan side. Or if the case hole is much larger, you might need a penny washer under the bolt head.

I suggest you have the nut and washer on the inside, just for appearances. But make sure the end of the bolt doesn't touch anything when the case side is in place.

Someplace like Lowes or Home Depot will sell you a package of bolts and matching nuts. Most places only call them "screws" if they don't work with nuts. That, of course, is just wrong, but that's another story....
1802) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Films that make you go hmmmm (Message 1111707)
Posted 31 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Anybody out there a Harold and Maude fan?


Yes. Loved the hearse.
1803) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #33 (Message 1111346)
Posted 30 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Lots of good ones, its hard to pick but here goes:

3rd place to KLC53 for ""Hey Boomer, Take a look at that poodle in the '65 'vette! WOOF, WOOF!!!"

2nd place to Skildude, for mentioning one of my favorite TV shows: "Hi I'm Bob and this is my brother Doug..."

And the winner is

BLURF
for mentioning one of my favorite movies: "... it's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses ..."

Pm is, like, going out hoser ...

1804) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #33 (Message 1111059)
Posted 29 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, I was just thinking we haven't had enough funny dog pictures lately.

1805) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #33 (Message 1110938)
Posted 29 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
PM received, we are pleased. My wife and I take great pleasure. Thank you.

Its late here, I'll find something tomorrow.
1806) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #33 (Message 1110595)
Posted 27 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:





A rare photo of the Duchess of Cornwall without her makeup.
1807) Message boards : Cafe SETI : So, what do you have planned for the end of the world? (Message 1110592)
Posted 27 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
One time when they came by and asked if they could come in and discuss religion, I asked them if I could discuss physics. They left.


Totally off topic SciMan, but you reminded me of my last day in LA after I graduated. Answered the door bell expecting my cab to the airport, but it was the JW. I was about to do my usual rude reply when I saw my cab turning on to the street, and got a diabolical idea. I invited the JW's in and asked them to explain their religion, in depth. About 2 minutes later the door bell rang again, and it was my cab to the airport. I told the JWs to come back next week, and then left the country. Forever. According to my ex-house mates they didn't give up on me for about 6 months.
1808) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #33 (Message 1109639)
Posted 25 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey ewe! No, not ewe, ewe!
1809) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mosquitoes............. (Message 1109400)
Posted 24 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The Mosquito was built in Canada during the war.
I think by the AVROW plant in Ontario.


Actually, it was at de Havviland Canada in Downsview, now part of Bombardier. Parts were made by dozens of furniture and carriage shops across Ontario.

But back on topic...

Never mind the mosquitos. What you really have to worrry about is the black fly. The little black fly....
1810) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A birthday raccoon for Angela (Message 1109395)
Posted 24 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We made the CRL a cake...

1811) Message boards : Cafe SETI : So, what do you have planned for the end of the world? (Message 1108043)
Posted 20 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My wife won't allow the world to end then. Too many things left on my honey-do list.
1812) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give us a Caption #32 (Message 1107460)
Posted 18 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The meter maids in this town are TOUGH.
1813) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 17 (Message 1107024)
Posted 17 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is that the Royal Palace in Honolulu?
1814) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest V - At last the winner has stepped forward... (Message 1104175)
Posted 7 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Protest!
The official question was how many "TV channels". TV is translated as the "broadcasting of a still or moving image via radiowaves to receivers that project a view of the image on a picture tube." [dictionary.com] Music channels are not TV channels. Even your own response states that you have 229 TV channels.
I think we should start all over and see if anyone can guess 229.


1. The music channels come with a "view of an image", and this is "projected" on my TV picture tube (at least on the old CRT machine). White text on a blue background. The text includes info on the song playing, so the images even change. At about one frame every 3 or 4 minutes.

2. Decisions of the judges are final, no matter how inane, inept, or self-serving said decisions may be.

3. (Added after some pondering and a beer). Your definition is obviously irrelevant. None of my images come "via radiowaves", and none are "projected on a video tube" when I watch on the LCD machine. If your definition was strictly applied, the correct answer can only be zero. Reductio ad absurdum. (Burp.)

4. (affer anuthur beeer) The orignal post says "it includes some music channels". Neener neener.
1815) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CONTEST VI (Message 1104171)
Posted 7 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, lets set a lower limit. I predict:

0.01 mb/sec
1816) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest V - At last the winner has stepped forward... (Message 1104128)
Posted 7 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We have a weiner!! John Clarke, with 269. That's 229 TV channels plus 40 music only channels. And, as Celt Tooth said, there's usually nothin' on.

PM going out soon, right after a message from our sponser...

Chris: the last list was entries since the first list. You were in the first one.
1817) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest V - At last the winner has stepped forward... (Message 1104014)
Posted 7 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ok lets guess 245


I say again...
Carlos 251
John N. 257
Celt Tooth 257 (a duplicate)
Uli 259
John C. 260
Mike 285 (way out, check my comments with the first list)

More of you are below the right number than above.
1818) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest V - At last the winner has stepped forward... (Message 1103997)
Posted 6 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Entries since my last post:

Carlos 251
John N. 257
Celt Tooth 257 (a duplicate)
Uli 259
John C. 260
Mike 285 (way out, check my comments with the first list)

More of you are below the right number than above.

I have to admit the number surprised me a bit when I looked it up. A lot of them are in languages I don't speak, so I never watch them. (Except the Punjabi Sports Channel. Those guys are very enthusiastic.) A few of them are in languages I didn't even know were languages.
1819) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 4 (Message 1103949)
Posted 6 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've heard Mike's explanation many times, but that is the first time I've heard Miep's.

Back to topic: it's Friday here, about to pop another Keith's IPA. Love the hops!
1820) Message boards : Cafe SETI : PLEASE CLOSE (Message 1103885)
Posted 6 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Bernie bet me fair and square, by almost one minute :). Mods, please close this one.

As you know the rules are:

Make sure your pic is visible to all. Keep the pics on the small side and dial ups will love you. The number needs to be in sequence, visibly and in order.

Text format or Roman Numerals are not allowed. Who ever post the last number opens the new thread with the first number.

2501 to 2600

So here is 2501
1821) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 4 (Message 1103865)
Posted 6 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We have wheat beer breakfast today to celebrate a co workers 50th birthday.


It being Bavaria, I suppose there's Weisswurst as well?


Yep, sure.

It was great.
Its lunch time and i´m still not hungry.


One of my Canadian co-workers during my extended visits in Bavaria used to insist on ordering Weisswurst in the afternoon. Places in Munchen would roll their eyes, smile, and deliver the Weisswurst. A few places in smaller towns would get into very lengthy and even heated discussions about why they wouldn't do it.
1822) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest V - At last the winner has stepped forward... (Message 1103863)
Posted 6 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What we have so far:

Celt tooth 57
Carlos 82
Miep 172
John N. 240
Chris 275
Angela 300
James 500
John C. 850

Chris is too high, John N. is too low.
1823) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest V - At last the winner has stepped forward... (Message 1103737)
Posted 5 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, thanks for your patience everybody. Sticking with Angela's theme, here is your assignment:

How many TV channels does the Walker household currently receive?

It might be cable or satellite or sub-space tachyon transceivers, I'm not telling. It includes some music channels through the same service. And it includes some channels that apparently Eric likes but Angela doesn't. If nobody gets it exactly in a few days I'll award this to the closest guess.
1824) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest V - At last the winner has stepped forward... (Message 1103627)
Posted 5 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks for the win Angela. In the middle of a busy day here, will come up with something this evening.
1825) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest V - At last the winner has stepped forward... (Message 1103281)
Posted 4 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Angela, based on a similar situation on our PVDR, I would guess the following:

Any of the Stargate series
Any of the Star Trek series
Fishing With ______ (fill in the blank)
Doctor Who
Greatest Tank Battles of All Time
Generals
WW2 in Color

We don't get the US SF station on cable here, so there could be a bunch there I'm missing.

And I'll go out on a limb (not knowing Eric) and add anything NASCAR. (In our house it would be anything Formula 1. You can actually set our PVDR to record anything with "Formula 1" anywhere in the title or description, any channel, any time. I love technology.)
1826) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETIzens' got talent! (Message 1103280)
Posted 4 May 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Regarding Freecell: I once wondered if every game could be won and started choosing games starting at number one. Among the first 4400 or so games was only one that I couldn't solve. Sadly, I lost the exact number during a computer upgrade.
Gundolf


I tried exactly the same thing some time ago, still have the spreadsheet. Can't get #617, #865, then stopped at #1145. I also have lots of random selections won, 11,769 wins in all. I gave up when the most recent version of the game showed there are now 1,000,000+ playable games.
1827) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 15 (Message 1101170)
Posted 27 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Coat holder?
1828) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Please pray for my wife Suzette (Message 1100617)
Posted 25 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good news Blurf.
1829) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I quit (Message 1099959)
Posted 23 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm drinking a little less these days, because I'm spilling a little more.
1830) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's YOUR hobby!? (Message 1098734)
Posted 18 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Real airplanes, model airplanes, airplane history, oenology, techie stuff in general, SF.

And Scouting is a way of life for me, a hobby for some.
1831) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car Racing 2011 (Message 1098494)
Posted 17 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
An amazing drive by Weber. I wonder what he could have done if he started closer to the front.
1832) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Scribble notes......... (Message 1098029)
Posted 16 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In fact I think the mill was tape controlleed not CNC.


Chris, punch tape was still CNC. The paper tape took the place of an electronic file on a disc or in RAM, but the 1s and 0s punched into the tape were processed the same. The first digital computers I worked with used paper tape in place of a hard drive. Back on topic, I used to keep little notes of computer commands on a piece of paper back then. The basic commands (to start reading the tape) were set with toggle switches on the front of the computer, and I kept the most common ones on a "cheat sheet".
1833) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Scribble notes......... (Message 1097504)
Posted 15 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I am totally dependent on my Daytimer, which is a Canadian 2-sheets-per-day note book. Everything, work and private, goes in there or doesn't get done. I realized how much I relied on this a few years ago when I thought I had lost the book. Panic set in very quickly.
1834) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How to get Credits? (Message 1097187)
Posted 14 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Special note for Canadians: 1,000,000 credits, plus $1.52, will get you a large double double at Timmies.
1835) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Please pray for my wife Suzette (Message 1097024)
Posted 14 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Great news Blurf. My middle sister had her gall bladder out last year, and her recovery schedule pretty well matched what you said. She feels much better these days, and I hope the same for Suzette.
1836) Message boards : Number crunching : Happy Cosmonautics Day for everyone! (Message 1096928)
Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Only a military Pilot wouldn't give sitting on the top of a missile a second thought


Lots of other people would line up for it too (including me).

Reminds me of the Chuck Yeager quote from "The Right Stuff". When other military pilots made fun of the civilian NASA trainee astronauts, comparing them to the chimpanzees NASA also used, Yeager pointed out that the chimpanzee doesn't know the rocket might explode.
1837) Message boards : Number crunching : Happy Cosmonautics Day for everyone! (Message 1096865)
Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And if the space race were begun today it would have failure to start.

OSHA (Ocupational Safety and Health Association) would never allow it because of the risk to human lives.


Actually, US Federal Regulation 1910.5(b) states:

None of the standards in this part shall apply to working conditions of employees with respect to which Federal agencies other than the Department of Labor, or State agencies acting under section 274 of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954, as amended (42 U.S.C. 2021), exercise statutory authority to prescribe or enforce standards or regulations affecting occupational safety or health.

NASA has written and published several standards concerning Federally operated and privately operated space vehicles, including human-rating of these vehicles. As per 1910.5(b), this trumps any OSHA involvement in the field. Several commercially designed, privately funded human-rated space vehicles are in development today.
1838) Message boards : Cafe SETI : advice needed re accident yesterday morning (Message 1096780)
Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm not sure how it works in the UK, but in North America if the attending officers had ANY suspicion you shared the blame in any way, they would have issued you a citation of some sort on the spot, just to keep you in the process. No ticket, no problem.

As long as you were driving a safe and legal speed, even if you slammed on the brakes, the cars behind should have been at a distance and speed that would allow them to react normally, and stop safely. Clearly the car right behind you was able to do this. Based on your description, the Mercedes probably failed on all counts (speed, distance, attention to traffic). That driver probably has legal and moral problems, but not you.
1839) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 1095712)
Posted 10 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can you substitute other furry creatures, like maybe larger ones with masked eyes?


I've been told that ground hogs are very greasy, and most of your small critter recipes need adjusting for this when cooking up Punxsutawney Phil and his kin. Otherwise, go for it.
1840) Message boards : Number crunching : Editing profile with IE 9 (Message 1095710)
Posted 10 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For what it is worth, I'm having a sort-of-related problem with saved user IDs on my banking login page since switching to IE9. I can switch between saved IDs (business and personal accounts) on the log in page, but the switch is not recognized unless I actually type in the ID as a new user ID. A call to their 1-800 number eventually got me through to an actual programmer, who said they were aware of the issue, it was caused by IE9, and they are working on it.

So Steve, maybe it is IE9, and you are not going crazy ;).
1841) Message boards : Cafe SETI : There goes the neighborhood ..... (Message 1094705)
Posted 8 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
1842) Message boards : Cafe SETI : There goes the neighborhood ..... (Message 1094680)
Posted 8 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
WTF are we talking about?
1843) Message boards : Technical News : QXP-13 Space Modulator (Apr 05 2011) (Message 1093728)
Posted 6 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks for that Matt. I was always big fan of the QXP-13.
1844) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange behavior Report Deadlines vs Work being performed (Message 1093169)
Posted 4 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But what is the logic to not always performing work based on it's deadline?



This is another one of those BOINC features that is needed when you run a variety of projects. Some have deadlines 2 years away, some have deadlines two days away. S@H is kind of in the middle. In my experience, I never miss a deadline except when machines blow up, so it seems to work.
1845) Message boards : Number crunching : Id be more willing to crunch Seti@ home if the credits were increased (Message 1092951)
Posted 3 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
PhonAcq has just rephrased the question: what do the credits really mean?

In terms of clock time commitment, credits today are vastly deflated compared to 10 years ago. What took a week 10 years ago takes me an hour or two today.

In terms of science done, it is a bit trickier. I assume the numerous upgrades to the executables over the years have included some increase in scientific efficiency (however you measure that). If that is the case, then credits are again deflated (if we try to equate credits earned with science performed).

I think the theory is that credit per FLOP has remained more or less constant, but with the time cost and monetary cost of FLOPs plummeting every year, what does that mean?

Sorry, just more questions, no answers.
1846) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 14 (Message 1092767)
Posted 2 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can't remember the name (I will google it in a minute) but I think it is in Oakville, Ontario.

EDIT: Nope, not the new one in Oakville. Over to somebody else.
1847) Message boards : Cafe SETI : April 2nd is Scarecrow's Birthday!!! (Message 1092237)
Posted 1 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Have a good one Scarecrow!
1848) Message boards : Number crunching : Id be more willing to crunch Seti@ home if the credits were increased (Message 1092236)
Posted 1 Apr 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Before Sten Arni says it ...
I've had it with low credits here. I'll give S@H just two or three more decades to clear this up. Or I'm outta here.

Four decades tops.
1849) Message boards : Cafe SETI : @SETI @ Home Class of 1999 Alumni (Message 1092086)
Posted 31 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This is just the pre-party Uli. Us old timers take a while to get wound up.
1850) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News III (Message 1092085)
Posted 31 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nothing much to mention except the magnificently palindromic Antonin.


I will now go crazy trying to get my stats to do that.
1851) Message boards : Number crunching : Id be more willing to crunch Seti@ home if the credits were increased (Message 1092083)
Posted 31 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Credits do serve one very real purpose. They allow you to track the performance of your machine(s), on any given project.

Any comparison of credits between projects is, IMHO, completely useless.
1852) Message boards : Technical News : Flight (Mar 29 2011) (Message 1091494)
Posted 29 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Poor Eric, running on S@H hand-me-downs. We should remember that the next time we feel inclined to complain about our hardware.
1853) Message boards : Number crunching : boinc task switching (Message 1091473)
Posted 29 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
From my understanding of Climate Prediction, they ignore deadlines because their tasks are so big. They also issue "partial credit" at several points during the lengthy process of competing a WU. Without getting my Phd in climate prediction, I can't really say if this is all necessary or if there is a better way.


Also, my personal experience of running projects is that individual WUs will often run longer than the "every 60 minutes" I have set, and sometimes run much less than 60 minutes even when there are no projects going into panic mode. This is all due to some mysterious internal workings of BOINC, and I for one am happy to let the thing run. I can't remember the last time I missed a project deadline, in 11+ years. There may be a better way for my machine to get more RAC, but as Richard says BOINC has to work for everybody and every project. And anyway, what would I do with more RAC?
1854) Message boards : Number crunching : downloaded tasks not on tasks list (Message 1091471)
Posted 29 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
DOH!!!

How did that get turned off?

Ich bin Ihnen sehr dankbar Gundolf.

I expect it was the same gremlins that turn the handle on my shower 45º towards cold each day.


No, that is your kids flushing the toilet in their bathroom. At least in my experience.
1855) Message boards : Number crunching : downloaded tasks not on tasks list (Message 1091462)
Posted 29 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
DOH!!!

How did that get turned off?

Ich bin Ihnen sehr dankbar Gundolf.
1856) Message boards : Number crunching : downloaded tasks not on tasks list (Message 1091442)
Posted 29 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This may be a BOINC question, but it showed up with S@H first.

This morning I downloaded about a dozen new tasks, all showing as "download finished" on the messages tab, but only 2 of them show up in the tasks tab (the two that are currently running). Anybody elese ever see this?

I'm using BOINC 6.10.58, optimized CPU, here are a few of the missing tasks:

29/03/2011 8:04:50 AM SETI@home Started download of 16oc10aa.15262.21744.16.10.71
29/03/2011 8:05:09 AM SETI@home Finished download of 16oc10aa.15262.21744.16.10.71
29/03/2011 8:05:09 AM SETI@home Started download of 16oc10aa.15262.21744.16.10.77
29/03/2011 8:05:26 AM SETI@home Finished download of 16oc10aa.15262.21744.16.10.77
29/03/2011 8:05:26 AM SETI@home Started download of 16oc10aa.15262.21744.16.10.83
29/03/2011 8:05:40 AM SETI@home Finished download of 16oc10aa.15262.21744.16.10.83
29/03/2011 8:05:40 AM SETI@home Started download of 16oc10aa.15262.21744.16.10.89
29/03/2011 8:05:46 AM SETI@home Finished download of 16oc10aa.15262.21744.16.10.89
29/03/2011 8:05:46 AM SETI@home Started download of 16oc10aa.15262.21744.16.10.95
29/03/2011 8:05:58 AM SETI@home Finished download of 16oc10aa.15262.21744.16.10.95
1857) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sup? (Message 1090388)
Posted 25 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nuttin'. Sup wit u?
1858) Message boards : Number crunching : Just thought it would be nice to mention... (Message 1090387)
Posted 25 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Aye. And aye again.

It's nice how everybody seems to be seeing aye to aye on this one.
1859) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just check that Ph.D. at the door... (Message 1088870)
Posted 20 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Eric and Angela, my herniated disc 20 years ago didn't stop things, it just forced a new level of creativity...
1860) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Anniversary Bill and Ann Walker (Message 1088868)
Posted 20 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks one and all. Just got back from a weekend road trip in honour of the big day.
1861) Message boards : Number crunching : Previously Processed Data Sets (Message 1087759)
Posted 17 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If Im seeing right there is a "tape" from March 21 2007(21mr07ac) being split. Not sure what this means.


I believe there were old tapes that were never split, because of RF contamination. Now that we have a way of blanking these radar signals, they can be processed.
1862) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Radiation Text Message Is Fake (Message 1087365)
Posted 15 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, I can take off my tin foil underwear now?
1863) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe! (Message 1086838)
Posted 13 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry John, those lodges don't drift. Like everything a beaver builds, they are very solid. Perhaps the perception of drifting resulted from too much of this:

1864) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News III (Message 1086259)
Posted 12 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Any excuse for a party Michael. Thanks for the stats.
1865) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VIII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe! (Message 1084996)
Posted 8 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why DO cats drink out of the toilet ???


Same reason dogs do. It is fresh and available and usually cool. My previous dog would wait patiently outside a bathroom door, and then go in for a drink as you came out. Even the sound of a flushing toilet would bring him from the other side of the house (before he went deaf). We got used to it, but it used to freak out visitors.
1866) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Belated Anniversary Robert Waite (Message 1084522)
Posted 7 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All the best Robert and wife, and many more to come.
1867) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Anniversary Angela & Eric (Message 1084215)
Posted 5 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Congratulations to a couple of beginners. Hang in there.
1868) Message boards : Technical News : Red Shift (Mar 01 2011) (Message 1083370)
Posted 4 Mar 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
SockGap, in North America one phase is 120V theoretical (115V in practice usually). The failure you describe would "only" be 230V to 240V here. In any case, properly designed circuit protection should catch either the 240V or 415V failure before a fire. Your biggest worry is frying people, not boxes or wires. The argument in favor of 115/120V is that failures are more benign, therefore us users can be more dumb. (We need all the help we can get here.)

Chris, it depends on the battery type, and what the manufacturer says. NiCad definitely needs conditioning when new, and then regular deep cycling, but newer lithium based batteries should be much more tolerant of abuse.
1869) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give us a Caption XXVIII (Message 1078769)
Posted 18 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, she LOOKED like she was 18.
1870) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give us a Caption XXVIII (Message 1078469)
Posted 17 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK OK that's ten ... ish. Lot's of good ones to pick from.

Third is a tie between Steven Meyer for "Yah, I got a 'scription. How think do you dumb I am!" and s^s for "Whoa Dude.. I'm like.. having an out of hole experience"

Second goes to James S. for a reference to one of the greatest movies ever made (about groundskeepers and gophers anyway) "If I leave one of these at the caddyshack, Spackler only pretends to try and get rid of me."

Lord Skildude wins, with "The nearly extinct California Reefer dog. Known for its laziness and inability to remember to hide when a hawk comes near." A few of his others deserve honourable mention as well.


1871) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give us a Caption XXVIII (Message 1078118)
Posted 16 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Keeping with the unusual animal theme...


1872) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give us a Caption XXVIII (Message 1078107)
Posted 16 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Tim. I know it's a wasp, but its easier to rhyme bee. Give me a minute.

The end.
1873) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give us a Caption XXVIII (Message 1078065)
Posted 16 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is this wretched double bee
Frowning here upon my knee
Some freak from a menagerie?
NO - its ERIC THE DOUBLE BEE

singing.... la da da, la da de, Eric the Double Bee
1874) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 4 (Message 1076646)
Posted 13 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just popped a Leffe. Here's to posts that drive us to drink.
1875) Questions and Answers : Web site : Q&A looks different (Message 1075641)
Posted 9 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm getting the error message for the unread symbol as well.
1876) Message boards : Cafe SETI : For All The Baby-Boomers (Message 1075572)
Posted 9 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I like every one I've read. The movies usually are not as good.
1877) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coast to coast A.M. (Message 1074837)
Posted 6 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sports conspiracist


Really? Is that a vocation? I wonder what his business card says.
1878) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Direct link to Q&A from BONIC Manager (Message 1074835)
Posted 6 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Aha! Thank you very much Gundolf.
1879) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Direct link to Q&A from BONIC Manager (Message 1074736)
Posted 6 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can we get the Q@A forums added to the list of web pages displayed in the Task tab for S@H in BOINC Manager?

I usually open the Manager first, check my work, then proceed to the Forums from that page. The NC Forum has become basically useless lately, and I would like to get to the Q&A a little more directly.
1880) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car Racing 2011 (Message 1074731)
Posted 6 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Mike, I don't expect big changes with the new rule on team orders. It basically just sanctions what has been going on for years. I don't like it when it happens, but it happens very rarely.
1881) Message boards : Number crunching : Suggestion for Number Crunching format (Message 1074725)
Posted 6 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In my years here at S@H I have found the Number Crunching message board extremely useful. There are a large number of very knowledgeable people here willing to share that knowledge with us beginners. It would be a shame to see this utility lost to me, and others new to the game, because of the ever-increasing pointless and non-technical posts we now see here.

I respectfully submit that the purpose of the S@H project could best be served by adopting a zero tolerance policy to non-technical discussions in this board. This should make the mods job much easier. If a post contains ANYTHING other than technical questions, answers or information, delete it. We still have the Cafe for personal discussions and general venting.

If The Powers That Be feel there is still a need for the NC board in its present form, perhaps a new, strictly technical board could be started. You could call it "Number Crunching - No seriously".
1882) Message boards : Number crunching : What do we tackle next? (Message 1074639)
Posted 6 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If you stop crunching because of what some doufus said, then the doufus has won.
1883) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Say Something About The Person Before You (Message 1074582)
Posted 6 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The person before me is also a hockey fan.
1884) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Say Something About The Person Before You (Message 1074572)
Posted 6 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The person before me isn't really a borg.
1885) Message boards : Number crunching : What do we tackle next? (Message 1074571)
Posted 6 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why is there still an expectation to keep the project up 24/7?


I can keep my end up 24/7 for several days using BOINC Manager and a cache. The whole idea of the cache is to eliminate the need for low budget operations to keep the servers up 24/7 and through weekends.
1886) Message boards : Number crunching : What do we tackle next? (Message 1074489)
Posted 5 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Trying to stick to the topic.

What do you suggest Robert? How would you fix things?
1887) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car Racing 2011 (Message 1074380)
Posted 5 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Any predictions?



It will be fun. Beyond that, hard to predict. Some of the new teams should do better, Red Bull and Ferrari will both be strong, and some UK writers are saying Schumacher will finally get it together and be back on form this year. Can't wait for March 13.
1888) Message boards : Cafe SETI : For All The Baby-Boomers (Message 1073847)
Posted 3 Feb 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You say that Vic, but stranger things have been elected over here, on both sides of the border.
1889) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Much has been said about work units. (Message 1072698)
Posted 31 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think that I will never see
A Work Unit as lovely as a tree
1890) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1072541)
Posted 31 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I did not think that Coyotes took down deer.

I'd think the Coyotes would go after the Young deer, As their smaller and less able to defend themselves.


And the old and the slow. A recent local newspaper article quoted some knowledgeable guy saying that more coyotes would at least force the deer to keep a low profile.

This all relates back to a mechanical failure at a small dam in town two summers ago. Until they get this sorted out, there are growing brush and shrubs along either side of the river here in the west end of town, which is forming a highway into the city for wildlife of all sorts. We are getting more foxes, coyotes, and turkeys here in the western suburbs. Even one black bear. All very interesting, in my opinion. The spillway at the dam is needed for fishing in town, and for the local canoe club. We are seeing an interesting clash of special interest groups about whether the spillway should be fixed or not.
1891) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coast to coast A.M. (Message 1072530)
Posted 31 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I thought Kaseychief was making these up, until I googled a few and found out that they are for real. The diversity of human opinion never ceases to amaze me.
1892) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Say Something About The Person Before You (Message 1072528)
Posted 31 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Chris is a scholar and a gentleman.
1893) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1072527)
Posted 31 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We still get raccoon tracks here, despite the terrible weather. They are quite distinct form the cat tracks, dog tracks, rabbit tracks, and the news boy walking through my bushes tracks. But haven't actually seen a raccoon for a few months. And no deer tracks at all this winter. That may be related to a reported increase in the local coyote population.
1894) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 4 (Message 1072524)
Posted 31 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Clock might say it is early.. but my schedule has not been consistent. So I am declaring it beer time here.


Agreed. One Moosehead popped.

Added in edit: that week in the garage after the beer fridge died has not done this box of Moosehead any good. Better finish it off QUICK, and get a new box on Monday.
1895) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (43) Server problems (Message 1072522)
Posted 31 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Its dead Jim.
1896) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 11 (Message 1071785)
Posted 29 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Or San Francisco?
1897) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 11 (Message 1071589)
Posted 28 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well no picture yet, but may I ask who was in the prior picture? That was never answered.


Actually, we are not sure. It is not old man Bell (he was well on by 1909). It is not Glen Curtiss, who had a dashing handle bar moustache in 1909. It is probably not J.A. McCurdy, who flew the Silver Dart in 1909. He had a much rounder face and nose, and was wearing ties, suits and bowler hats regularly by 1909, even in the winter. It may be Casey Baldwin, the other senior partner, or some nameless local Baddeck lad. Bell used to hire them for pennies a day and a free lunch cooked by his wife to help with his telephones and kites and aeroplanes and hydrofoils, or whatever else he was working on at the time. That is how both McCurdy and Baldwin got started with the group when they were teenagers, before going to university in Toronto to become Canada's first graduate aeronautical engineers in 1908. It must have been an incredibly exciting job for a small town Canadian boy back then.

I got this photo, and hundreds of others, while working with Canadian author and historian Carl Mills on a presentation on the Silver Dart that he delivered across Canada in 2009, for the 100th anniversary of the Silver Dart's first flight.
1898) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 11 (Message 1071500)
Posted 28 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Bump, to bring this back to the top of the heap.
1899) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 10 (Message 1071490)
Posted 28 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
1909.

Baddeck, Nova Scotia

Silver Dart.


WINNER! PM to be sent.

The Silver Dart was the first heavier than air flying machine designed, built and tested in Canada, or anywhere in the British Empire, when it first flew in February 1909. Some uppity Brits contest that last bit, because the engine was built by Glenn Curtiss in Hammondsport, NY to the designs of Bell's Canadian/Scottish/US team.

This photo shows the ice sled used to test the engine and train pilots (see the little dummy elevator at the front?), and was taken on frozen Bras D'Or Lake only a few days before the first flight.

Carlos, I would have taken Beinn Bhreagh for the location, that was the name of Bell's estate overlooking the lake. But the SD-4 was a very different looking beast with twin Renault automobile engines. And it wasn't built until 1910.
1900) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 10 (Message 1071344)
Posted 28 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
W. Starling Burgess?

Not involved at all, but I admire your knowledge of old flyers.

Massachusetts?

Wrong country. (your next hint)

Went into the first commercially saleable airplane?

No. But that raises an interesting question. The Wright Brothers took several years to sell their first airplane, which probably makes the Wright Flyer the first saleable airplane, but not the first sold. So who did the first commercial transaction? I'm off to Google to find out.
1901) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 10 (Message 1071321)
Posted 28 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That would make it Glen Curtis, New York someplace, and it would have gone into an experimental airplane. (NOTE that ALL airplanes at that time were experimental).


So close John! Glen Curtiss was part of this story (another big clue), but that is not him in the picture, and that is not New York. Yes, it was an airplane, but a particularly historic one, even for 1909.
1902) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 10 (Message 1071296)
Posted 27 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
1909 Russia by Igor Sikorsky. The engine was used in the first helicopter prototype.


Correct year. Wrong country, wrong mad inventor (big hint). The helicopter is getting close though.
1903) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 10 (Message 1071215)
Posted 27 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Norway?


Wrong continent.
1904) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Much has been said about work units. (Message 1071176)
Posted 27 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Give a man a WU and he will crunch for a day. Give a man BOINC so he can start his own project and we will all complain about not enough WUs for all our lifetimes. And downtime. And they never read the Forums....
1905) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cubesat (Message 1071175)
Posted 27 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ive seen every car I have owned the last 20 years.


Still parked in your front yard? I had neighbours like that out west.
1906) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 10 (Message 1071174)
Posted 27 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
alaska 1905


Sort of close on the date, a long way off on the place.
1907) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cubesat (Message 1071122)
Posted 27 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, if we could get 10% of the active S@H users to contribute $1 each, we could have our own satellite.
1908) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 10 (Message 1071120)
Posted 27 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, we will continue the old machinery theme. Two answers required, may give it to just one right answer if nobody gets both.

1. Where and when (roughly) was this photo taken?

2. The machinery behind the earnest young man would make history some time later, in a completely different machine. Name the event.

1909) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 10 (Message 1071020)
Posted 27 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Stationary gasoline engine, probably a one-lunger.


You are correct, this engine is commonly known as a Hit and Miss (due to the way that they run). This particular gear is on an engine I am restoring, I can post pics if any ones interested. Hope it, or I wasn't too frustrating.


Herabouts they are also known as make-and-breaks, because of the way the ignition works. I would love to see photos.

It's late here, will post a pic in the morning.
1910) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Much has been said about work units. (Message 1071018)
Posted 27 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL work unit!


Strong in this one the Work Unit is.
1911) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread 2...... (Message 1070906)
Posted 26 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My goofy question - there are only 2 ways you can insert a USB plug. Why do I get it wrong 7 times out of 10 ???


Results are skewed, because you tend to remember the times it didn't fit more than you remember the times it did fit. It's a well known phenomena, ask any tech support person.
1912) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 10 (Message 1070904)
Posted 26 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Stationary gasoline engine, probably a one-lunger.
1913) Message boards : Cafe SETI : duct tape and vicious cats (Message 1070859)
Posted 26 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I seem to recall that quite a bit of duct tape was used to create the lashed-up ventilation system that kept the crew of Apollo 13 alive on the trip back to earth.
1914) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Much has been said about work units. (Message 1070858)
Posted 26 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The bowl seemed almost to sing with the sun, to chime with the intensity of its light, and cast darkly brilliant rainbows around the sand and upon them. He turned it, and turned it. They could see quite clearly in the fine tracery of its etchwork the words "So Long, and Thanks For All The Work Units."

1915) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Much has been said about work units. (Message 1070814)
Posted 26 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A Work Unit! A Work Unit! My kingdom for a Work Unit!
1916) Message boards : Cafe SETI : duct tape and vicious cats (Message 1070545)
Posted 25 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks James, but I'll stick to toothpicks for now.
1917) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Much has been said about work units. (Message 1070544)
Posted 25 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A work unit a day keeps the doctor away.
1918) Message boards : Cafe SETI : duct tape and vicious cats (Message 1070521)
Posted 25 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Of course, one must not forget the repairman's other indespensible item - the humble matchstick. Suprising the number of the things I fixed using matchsticks and sticky tape.



Ah yes. Match sticks are hard to come by these days, and I'm still looking for a cheap alternative. I repaired a bad connection in a vacuum cleaner a few months ago by wedging a plug/socket joint with a piece of tooth pick.

The other indispensible repair tool was the match book cover. Pliable, layerable, tearable, electrically non-conductive. Fortunately, this one has been replaced (in my repair techniques anyway) by the business card.

And of course, I always have a bunch of tie-wraps on hand.
1919) Message boards : Cafe SETI : duct tape and vicious cats (Message 1070509)
Posted 25 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Although developed for the military, its first big home-use success was sealing joints in sheet metal air ducts, in forced air heating/colling systems. I still use it for just that. And a million other things.

Just an aside, growing up in a military family, I first knew the stuff as "gun tape", which came in dark brown (of course) and had much heavier fabric than duct tape. My father would often "procure" a roll or two for home use.

1920) Message boards : Cafe SETI : duct tape and vicious cats (Message 1070481)
Posted 25 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
1921) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News III (Message 1070480)
Posted 25 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It's right there, at the bottom. Where it always is.
1922) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 10 (Message 1070479)
Posted 25 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
From a very old tractor, maybe a Deere?
1923) Message boards : Number crunching : Heavy radar contamination / no workunits (Message 1070183)
Posted 24 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
From several posts over the years, the radar interferance has been there to some extent all along. This can be the cause of some WUs not completing normally. It was quickly recognized, and heavily contaminated data was never split. Once they developed the radar blanking software (a year or two ago?), it was possible to run some old tapes that hadn't ever been processed. The norm became that all data went through this "cleansing" process before being sent out, but that seems to have shut down - and therefore no new work right now.
1924) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Callahan's Crosstime Saloon (Message 1069987)
Posted 23 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'll drink to absent friends. Of all species.
1925) Message boards : Cafe SETI : duct tape and vicious cats (Message 1069481)
Posted 22 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I saw Red Green live in 1997 here in London, not far from the 3M factory in the tour. He took questions at the end of the show, and somebody asked him if he had a favorite brand of duct tape. He replied "no, but if there is somebody from 3M in the audience with a check book, that could change".
1926) Message boards : Cafe SETI : duct tape and vicious cats (Message 1069168)
Posted 21 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Red Green (AKA Steve Smith). He was actually an engineering student at a nearby university, who dropped out of school to persue a career as a stand up comic. Hence his very logical type of humour.
1927) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 10 (Message 1068536)
Posted 20 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It's the Stone Needle in Beggars Canyon. I used to bulls-eye womp rats there in my youth.
1928) Message boards : Technical News : Get Out of My House (Jan 18 2011) (Message 1068100)
Posted 19 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Alas, poor Bruno! I knew him, Horatio, a server of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy. He hath bore me on his back a thousand times, and now he done broke.

Hey Matt, any hints on how you are picking your thread titles these days?
1929) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1067977)
Posted 18 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There are many different ways to love critters.
1930) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News III (Message 1067851)
Posted 18 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Michael. Happy new year, and welcome back.
1931) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1067380)
Posted 16 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not to be picky guys, but ...

There was a 1918 Deere Model A sold a few years ago that claimed at the time to be the world's oldest Deere tractor. Deere actually came into the tractor market fairly late, buying Waterloo Boy tractors in 1912. By then Waterloo Boy and IH had been making gasoline tractors for about a decade. There are several museums in and around Moline with Deere horse towed implements dating back to the mid 1800s. The first Deere branded plows were sold in 1837.
1932) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1066966)
Posted 15 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Like I said, it is all about life style. Maybe the cat doesn't smoke, doesn't drink, doesn't stay up late and doesn't chase after the opposite sex. Then it died of boredom at 39.
1933) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Sign The World Is Ending (Message 1066764)
Posted 15 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I can help with the single malt, if you like.
1934) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Taurus is the new Gemini: Why your Zodiac sign might not be what you think (Message 1066763)
Posted 15 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This might explain why every horoscope I have read about myself in the last 58 years has been wrong.
1935) Message boards : Number crunching : Huge Workunits (Message 1066274)
Posted 13 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I seem to recall some other threads about estimated work times jumping up for some users, but can't find them. IIRC the problem was in the estimate, not in the actual time to crunch. Watch how much the estimated time to completion goes down after 10 or 20 minutes of crunching. The best estimate of actual time to completion is calcualted using elapsed time and per cent progress.
1936) Message boards : Number crunching : Numbers: The good and the .... (Message 1065968)
Posted 12 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Any of those projects could have caused your spike if they have database issues. They first remove big amounts of credit (basically in error) and then add it back when they get things straightened out. For me, CPD gave me 59,000 points last April, after taking it away a few days earlier. Unfortunately none of the statistics tracking sites record "worst days".
1937) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Sign The World Is Ending (Message 1065597)
Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
When will cars switch themselves on and warm up with a click from a computer?


I can buy one now to work with a smart phone. It gets cold here, eh?

How long will IPv6 last???


That will be market driven. There are a zillion (another technical term) ways around the limits of addresses, already in use on distributed buses in mobile applications. The same thing happens there - somebody thinks up a bus standard with "way more addresses than anybody will ever need" (famous last words), and then the users saturate the addresses within a few months.

The cheap and nasty way around this is to create devices that are local bus controllers, with their own set of addresses below them. A typical message in ARINC/IEE/MIL-STD/Canbus today might look like:

{start block}{for address X}{instruction}{end block}

X is a device using the "standard" addressing system. It decodes "instruction" and figures out it is supposed to turn on/turn off/whatever sub-device X.1234. Depending on how much people are willing to pay, and how long your messages are allowed to be, you can overnight increase the number of bus addresses by a factor of 8, 16, 32, or whatever.

In my experience the Standards Development community is always a few months or years behind industry. When people need something, they make it. Standards come later.
1938) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1065314)
Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Doesn't look that old to me .....?


Probably a non-smoker then.
1939) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest II (Message 1065313)
Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
12
1940) Message boards : Number crunching : Reset Project (Message 1065056)
Posted 9 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think it will only affect the one computer, from my experience.

As to why you are not getting work, it would help if you posted some of the messages from BOINC Manager right after you try to fetch work.

Have you recently added a project, or changed resource shares between projects? This can take weeks to come to a new equilibrium, during which time some projects will not request any work.
1941) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 4 (Message 1064831)
Posted 9 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nine Oh Wine here.
1942) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1064106)
Posted 7 Jan 2011 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Angela? Is that you?
1943) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Sign The World Is Ending (Message 1061486)
Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I read somewhere that some eastern country was blocking things like Google and Facebook to protect their citizens. Maybe it was Australia?

But seriously, that is not the end of the world. Just the end of the world as you know it.
1944) Message boards : Cafe SETI : And another 'Is it just me' thought..... (Message 1060210)
Posted 27 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Would a simple excuse me be the best way to deal with this? I certainly wouldn't get out of the way of someone who was being so passive aggressive and rude. Where are your manners?



I used to fume quietly about rude people in public places, but now I give them one polite reminder (excuse me, can you move your cart?) and if that fails a very loud and frank statement (you're blocking the whole aisle, move it). It gets me dirty looks, but I really don't care. And it gets me moving again.

Of course, that is in Canada, where nobody is packing.
1945) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is the 'new' credit system still erratic. (Message 1060209)
Posted 27 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm with Sten-Arne on this one. If they don't improve the obviously flawed and unfair credit system within 5 to 10 years, I will probably quit.
1946) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest (Message 1059831)
Posted 26 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Some observers say they are not independent countries only small ones. But for this purpose I'm counting UK as 4 countries, England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.


I thought the U in UK was for United. What about the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man?

Using Chris' rules, I'm going to say 25.
1947) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Any Heating Engineers in the house? (Message 1058981)
Posted 23 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It might also be the hot water suction pump from the boiler to the radiators sticking.


Wouldn't that result in all (or at least most) radiators not making heat? Or are there multiple pumps?
1948) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Any Heating Engineers in the house? (Message 1058938)
Posted 23 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ah Chris, a solution that touches my mechanical engineer heart. Bang on it with a hammer.

If I understood you correctly, you are running city mains water through your radiator system? That would be a recipe for disaster in many parts of North America. Mineral build ups would produce the same symptoms you described. And the build ups could be dislodged with judicious use of the aforementioned hammer. Just sayin'.

I think North American home heating systems have been developed over the years with lowest initial cost (fabrication and installation) in mind. It will be interesting to see what happens as people become more concerned about running costs.
1949) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Any Heating Engineers in the house? (Message 1058758)
Posted 22 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not a heating engineer, but many years testing hydraulic systems in general.

I think whoever gave you the "lazy loop" procedure was hoping for a blockage that could be blown out by forcing all the system flow through that loop. Sounds like that only upped the system pressure till the red lights came on. I'm pretty sure you have a permanent blockage, you just have to find it and clear it (or remove the blocked component). I suspect (in decreasing order of probability):

a partial blockage in the valve,
or in the radiator,
or in the outlet pipes downstream of the radiator.

If it is not a big deal (time and money) first try replacing the valve. Especially if old. If you still have the same problem, then the job gets bigger. Try draining the radiator (opening both pipe connections) and then blow through it. DO NOT use compressed air of any sort, unless you know exactly what the rad is pressure tested to and exactly what pressure your air source is. Mark I lungs and lips will do. Go to a radiator store and blow on a new one, to see what to expect from a good radiator. (This will impress the heck out of the staff there.) Unless somebody has a really good way for clearing blocked rads, I would suggest a new one if blocked. I have heard a few dozen home remedies for clearing blocked heat exchangers and radiators, and have seen all of them fail miserably.

If the radiator appears free and you still have the problem, then you have a pipe blockage downstream of the rad. I would hire a pro to handle that. Gets very messy.

1950) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Post your age, if you dare. (Message 1058585)
Posted 22 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I don't do birthdays anymore. This year I celebrated the 19th anniversary of my 39th birthday.
1951) Message boards : Technical News : Maxed (Dec 16 2010) (Message 1057869)
Posted 19 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think the "fairness" doctrine is known as "grab and growl". Grab what is there, and growl about it all you want, it will not change a thing.


Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
1952) Message boards : Technical News : Maxed (Dec 16 2010) (Message 1057065)
Posted 17 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In most English speaking countries a "result" is indeed what comes after something. At Berkeley a result in a duplicate of a work unit, and it is called a result before it is sent, while it is out in the field, and after it comes home.

Edit: you just beat me Gary.
1953) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest (Message 1057009)
Posted 17 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
90 mm
1954) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimized Aps for a dummy (me) (Message 1056977)
Posted 17 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Many thanks for the pointers, folks. I installed the best optimizer as you guys said, it basically self-installed and there wasn't much more to it than that! A lot easier than I thought.

While my system isn't screaming through the wu units, the average time has gone from 10 hours per wu to 4.5 hours. That's a great step forward in my book!


Welcome to optimized aps Mike. You should see your RAC double over time. Of course, now you have to read these threads regularly to see when to upgrade your aps. At least that's what I tell my wife.
1955) Message boards : Number crunching : Time has come 2 this (Message 1056975)
Posted 17 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just remember that not everyone is back requesting work yet, mainly just the seti only diehards, ...


I would have thought that only a few die hards (who read these threads and care about what is going on) are NOT requesting work. The majority of the set-and-forget crowd don't even know what has gone on in the last few weeks.

Case in point: I added a GPU machine during the Great Outage, and my RAC is soaring through the roof (for me anyway). Yet I am falling in my country and team rankings. I think this means a whole *load of people are started back into crunching S@H as fast as the WUs come out.
1956) Message boards : Number crunching : Time has come 2 this (Message 1056972)
Posted 17 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


But out of work because they are out of work?? AWESOME!!!


I second that, and remind people there are other projects to warm yourself with while waiting for the next batch of S@H work.
1957) Message boards : Technical News : Maxed (Dec 16 2010) (Message 1056966)
Posted 17 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
equal pay for everyone!!!


From each according to their ability, to each according to their need. Isn't that the American way?
1958) Message boards : Number crunching : Time has come 2 this (Message 1056706)
Posted 16 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks for all that Matt. It's nice to know that there are humans behind all the numbers.
1959) Message boards : Number crunching : 6.10.58 weird issue (Message 1056616)
Posted 16 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have noticed with 6.10.58 that if you roll over the icon it only shows the status at the last time you had the manager window open. I'm sure earlier versions showed actual current status on a roll over.
1960) Message boards : Number crunching : HUGE wu's - what happened? (Message 1056488)
Posted 16 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If you haven't had an Astropulse unit for some time (or ever), your time estimates will be way out of whack. I just downloaded my first one in several months, and the time estimate is 274 hours. I'm sure it will actually take anywhere from 20 to 30 hours. Let them run for a bit before aborting them and see what happens to the time estimate. It should start going down very quickly once the task has run for even a few minutes.


For example: that 274 hour task just started running. After 18 minutes of Progress, the time To Completion has gone down by 14 hours.
1961) Message boards : Number crunching : astropule work but preferences set to no (Message 1056476)
Posted 16 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You will get slightly more credits per hour for an AP than an MB.

I don't think that's correct anymore. Some months ago you got around 1200 for an AP WU, but now you only get maybe 700.


I just did 2 of them at 1294.24 credits each.

Steve

OK, wonder if it's the new standard again...


The only consistancy is change.

Steve


I'm not sure there really is a "standard". I get valid results for MB units from 30 to 130 credits each. I guess the real question is how many credits per hour (or per minute for you super crunchers) are you getting for APs? I haven't had one for months, but they used to be a little better than MBs, per hour.
1962) Message boards : Number crunching : New WUs Coming...Someday? (Message 1056474)
Posted 16 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm getting this strange message..
12/15/2010 7:23:11 PM SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 13 new tasks
followed by a bunch of numbers and letters. Anyone know what it means? :-)


It means you are one step closer to that free toaster.
1963) Message boards : Number crunching : New WUs Coming...Someday? (Message 1056469)
Posted 16 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have had none for 24 hours.


Wow. I guess you are new here. Lots of us have gone months with no work. Welcome to a very long term project.

Does the server not know that there are computers that will not finish the work they have for weeks but keeps giving them WUs while there are other computers that have long finished all their tasks flawlessly?


Are you sure about that? There are lots of computers here that do several hundred WUs a day. The first computer in your list has an average turn around time of 5.8 days, meaning it usually completes each task with 5.8 days of getting it. Considering that deadlines are usually several weeks after the send out date, why wouldn't S@H give this one more work?

In theory, the project only gives work to computers that will finish them before the deadline. Right now there are more people asking for work than the project can produce. Who gets what is more or less random. As somebody else said in these forums, patience is not just a virtue at S@H, it is a requirement.
1964) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (41) Server problems (Message 1056441)
Posted 15 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If you still have local backups, then there's no point in having disposable hard drives. Might as well just back them up from the hard drives.


I thought all hard drives were disposable.
1965) Message boards : Number crunching : New WUs Coming...Someday? (Message 1056417)
Posted 15 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The front page needs to be fixed :D


The front page is correct. Read the last sentence in the 8 December message.
1966) Message boards : Number crunching : astropule work but preferences set to no (Message 1056338)
Posted 15 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Some general comments on AP work:

If you haven't had one for a while, the initial time to completion estimate will be way too big. Try running one for a while before aborting it, and watch what happens to the time to completion estimate.

The deadlines set for AP work should allow you to complete them before the deadline if you keep your hours per day of computing fairly constant.

You will get slightly more credits per hour for an AP than an MB.
1967) Message boards : Number crunching : HUGE wu's - what happened? (Message 1056320)
Posted 15 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If you haven't had an Astropulse unit for some time (or ever), your time estimates will be way out of whack. I just downloaded my first one in several months, and the time estimate is 274 hours. I'm sure it will actually take anywhere from 20 to 30 hours. Let them run for a bit before aborting them and see what happens to the time estimate. It should start going down very quickly once the task has run for even a few minutes.

Once you have run the task for a few minutes, your most accurate estimate of real total run time is:

(1 divided by % complete - expressed as a decimal) X Elapsed time

Another useful rule of thumb is that an AP unit should take about 8 times what MB takes on your machine.

Added in edit: it can be worth waiting, as you probably get more credits per hour from AP than from MB. If you are into credits. ;)
1968) Message boards : Number crunching : Time has come 2 this (Message 1056138)
Posted 15 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very well said Iona.
1969) Message boards : Number crunching : New server problems (Dec 11) ? (Message 1055934)
Posted 14 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
LOL. We are witnessing the future of pop music.
1970) Message boards : Number crunching : Odd scheduler behavior (Message 1055932)
Posted 14 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I often see something similar on my CPU only machine. Daily limit 100+, need about 20 to 30 to fill my quota, but only get 3 or 4 or 5 at a time. I think this is coming from the server side, as it seems to happen just after an outage (scheduled or otherwise), when the demand is very high.
1971) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 3 (Message 1055628)
Posted 13 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ah December has rolled around, and in Canada that means dark seasonal beers are coming out. Had some Sleeman's Porter on the weekend, very nice. When the roads improve a bit I must go out and see what else is new in the beer store. This is way better than that other holiday in December.
1972) Message boards : Number crunching : Time has come 2 this (Message 1055570)
Posted 13 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sign me up guys!!!!
1973) Message boards : Number crunching : New server problems (Dec 11) ? (Message 1055569)
Posted 13 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
BeNt, those are all good points. Especially the question about what they thought about all this in 1999. Again, if the decision was mine to make, I would want to see dollars next to all of them. Otherwise, this is all just an interesting, but pointless, discussion.
1974) Message boards : Number crunching : New server problems (Dec 11) ? (Message 1055482)
Posted 12 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In this day and age, especially considering the traffic on these servers, it seems it would behoove both the database, bandwidth, users, and University to find a way to handle the wasting of resources because time and bandwidth do ultimately cost money.


Very true. Fixing it also takes time and money. Since we all still get WUs from time to time, and since the results database is filling up, the issue is clearly not a show stopper. If I was running BOINC and/or S@H, I would be asking:

1. How much is this current problem costing us?
2. How much does a fix cost?
3. What else could we do with the money and the resources?

The brutal truth may be that the best allocation of time and money right now includes letting a few machines trash WUs on an on-going basis.
1975) Message boards : Number crunching : Time has come 2 this (Message 1055481)
Posted 12 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why does S@H HAVE to be up on weekends? This is not a commercial service, and nobody suffers or dies when it goes down.

given the rag-tag mix of hardware, and the fact that the software is constantly being rewritten and adjusted, down times will happen. So what? BOINC keeps most of us crunching through brief down times. For longer down times there are other projects. (All with their own problems.)

Yes, recent donations paid for two new servers. There are 9 others, of mixed heritage and age. UC Berkeley pays some wages, donations pay some more, but not enough to provide 24/7 staffing. We get what we pay for.
1976) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 1055451)
Posted 12 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I remember when people used to Google themselves. Now they search WikiLeaks for their name.
1977) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1055399)
Posted 12 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This one goes out to everybody I ever disagreed with on this, or any other, Forum.

You May Be Right
1978) Message boards : Number crunching : New server problems (Dec 11) ? (Message 1055398)
Posted 12 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just found that e-mail notification for private messages doesn't seem to have been hooked up yet. Had 2 PMs overnight, no email, preferences are still intact.


I have gotten email notices as well as messages in the manager about PM's as recently as a couple of days ago.


I got a message and an e-mail notice yesterday.
1979) Message boards : Number crunching : New server problems (Dec 11) ? (Message 1055058)
Posted 11 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
S@H goes down on the weekend. This is news?

A few days ago everybody was talking bravely about the month plus down time and how is was needed, it was all for the better, etc. Whats a few days down after that?

Of course, I'm just feeling smug because I filled my buffers last night. I won't panic for another few days.
1980) Message boards : News : SETI@home is back online (Message 1055055)
Posted 11 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Great work guys, I've got plenty of work units and am plugging away. What I've noticed though is (doing 5 units at a time) Seti is working on units with the date 22/01/11 etc. while it should be working on the 21/12/10 units.....any advice or is this an internal problem????
Thanks in advance

Chuck



Chuck, this is really a question for Number Crunching. BOINC works on a first in, first out basis, unless it is in EDF (panic) mode. S@H seems to set the due date on the size of the unit, as well as the time sent. Your 22/01/11 units must have arrived at your computer before the 21/12/10 ones. These December 2010 units probably have a shorter estimated run time, hence the earlier due date even if sent later.
1981) Message boards : Number crunching : Not connecting and getting units to work (Message 1054809)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What makes a project run at "high priority"?
Whenever I enable any other project it takes over and runs at high priority and seti is stopped.


Very simplified answer: BOINC looks at how many hours per day each project currently gets, and how many hours per day it needs to finish tasks before their deadlines (with a bit of a pad thrown in, to be safe). If there is a chance that your recent resource sharing means one project will not be done before deadline, it goes into panic mode, and increases the share to that project. In an extreme panic that means all you got goes to that project.

I have seen this happen just about every time I add a new project. It appears that BOINC looks at the average resource share that project has recently had (zero for a brand new project) and goes into panic until that project has a high enough average to go back to "normal" mode.

Eventually, things calm down, BOINC tracks the long term debts other projects have built up, and tries to smooth things out. From my amateur observations, the whole system is under-damped and prone to oscillating in and out of panic mode for some time before things calm down. Usually, a project goes down before that happens, and messes everything up again. But in the long run, the actual share of all my projects get close to what I have set. Just give it a few days or even weeks.
1982) Message boards : Number crunching : Advice Please (Message 1054806)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Richard, you said what I was trying to say, but you did it much better.

I meant that in the short term the actual CPU per centage any project gets may vary considerably from what you have set. But in the long run, the shares will try to move towards what you have set.
1983) Message boards : Number crunching : Not connecting and getting units to work (Message 1054729)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I keep getting this over and over on one machine while another machine is happily crunching away:


Could be a long term debt issue with another project, or maybe you have a lot of pending uploads for other projects. Either of these will stop one project from requesting work. Do you have pending uploads, and/or other projects running in High Priority mode?
1984) Message boards : Number crunching : Odd things after the big outage (Message 1054695)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks guys. A quick check shows wingmen having the same results in several cases, so I guess it is just luck of the draw.
1985) Message boards : Number crunching : Odd things after the big outage (Message 1054678)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What I saw was a bunch of -185 errors, all coming from your CPU. I don't have time to check further at the moment as I'm at work.

Steve


The CPU errors were all due to me installing the wrong optimized ap on my newish machine. That appears to have been fixed.

Looking closer I see the very short GPU tasks were not -9 error messages, but -9 "informational messages", like this task. Never noticed these before, and I was wondering how common they are.
1986) Message boards : Number crunching : Odd things after the big outage (Message 1054649)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm getting a few -9 errors on my new GPU machine, about 1 in 10. Being new to GPUs, is this typical?

I'm just curious, I don't see this as a huge problem unless there is something I can correct. The WUs error out in a few minutes, I get a few credits, and a new WU right away.
1987) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (41) Server problems (Message 1054645)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well you all wonder about splitting rates and bandwidth, let me just say that ignorance is bliss. I cobbled up a GPU cruncher from some hand me downs and spare parts during the break, and my regular machine and the new machine have been getting a steady stream of work the last few days. No panic here. I've got mine, I'm all right Jack, etc.
1988) Message boards : Number crunching : Advice Please (Message 1054083)
Posted 8 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
From my experience, changing resource settings can take months to smooth out and arrive at a new equlibrium. I guess that is the "long" in "long term debt".

A long term outage, like S@H just had, can also screw things up for months. In my case, one machine got 3 S@H WUs yesterday, and then another project (with a relatively low resource share) went into panic mode a few hours later and is currently hogging both CPUs. I expect this to last a few days, during which time S@H, with the largest resource share setting on this machine and a huge long term lack of work, will not run or request new work. Oh well.

Patrick, resource sharing only applies to CPU time, over a very long term. The amount of disc space used by a project is only indirectly related. WCG is a real disk hog, I think because of the several different aps you may have at any one time. MW WUs are also quite big, compared to S@H.
1989) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 3 (Message 1053201)
Posted 5 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'd just like to thank Steve for setting up this thread for all us boozers, and playing along with us. Maybe someday we will all give up the drink like you did Steve. Cheers!
1990) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1053165)
Posted 5 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Hey Angela, got any more of this?
1991) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 1053016)
Posted 4 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thread title; Is it about finding ET anymore?

I can't believe this thread is still going?

We all know full well this project is not looking for aliens anymore. We know the secret at this stage!!

This whole SETI@home project is a cover story to get the unsuspecting public to process CIA data files for tracking Russian spy satellites. I knew it from day one!!

John.


If that's true, why aren't we reading about it in Wiki Leaks?
1992) Message boards : Number crunching : Battle Plans for the Great Feeding Frenzy (Message 1052813)
Posted 4 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
lets break it while it's still under warranty:D


Spoken like a true test engineer.
1993) Message boards : Technical News : Update Stats (Dec 02 2010) (Message 1052608)
Posted 2 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey Matt, if you could ship the first WU at 11:15 local time on Monday morning, I'll share my winnings with you.

No need to tell anybody about this little agreement, right?
1994) Message boards : Number crunching : Battle Plans for the Great Feeding Frenzy (Message 1052560)
Posted 2 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I intend to sit back and watch. Not that my two little machines will make much difference either way.

One could argue that if everybody did this it would be an interesting and realistic test of both S@H and BOINC hardware and software when faced with a glut of demand like this. Any personal messing with settings at the user level might slew the results. That's the test engineer in me speaking - you don't know what to fix until it breaks.
1995) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1052515)
Posted 2 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Was the cat caught, is the question?


Not exactly caught. It came back on its own, when it discovered it couldn't reach the elevator button.
1996) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VII - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1052468)
Posted 2 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Miep's story reminded of a time many years ago when my mother was catsitting for my sister. We went for a visit, Mom opened the door and a grey blur went past us into the hall at about 600 mph. The blur was followed by my mother, at a slightly lower speed, saying quite loudly "that f**g cat". It was the one and only time I ever heard use the F word.
1997) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest (Message 1052467)
Posted 2 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Monday December 6, 11:15 AM Berkeley time.
1998) Message boards : Cafe SETI : NASA announcement thursday (Message 1052466)
Posted 2 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Maybe I'm missing the point here (not being a biologist), but wouldn't this just prove that life, once having come into existence in suitable circumstances,could evolve to exploit a niche environment different from the "ideal" one it was created in? Isn't it a big leap to then say "therefore life could come into existence in very different environments"?
1999) Message boards : Number crunching : Just got 3 WU's for GPU! (Message 1052462)
Posted 2 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Got another one overnight - that's 3 in 2 days after weeks of nothing!
2000) Message boards : Number crunching : Just got 3 WU's for GPU! (Message 1052293)
Posted 1 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've got 2 today, one on each machine. First in weeks. The cricket graphs look a little busier.
2001) Message boards : Number crunching : the latest version of Boinc (Message 1052291)
Posted 1 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
6.10.58 is working well on 2 machines for me. Hope I haven't jinxed it all by saying that.
2002) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Callahan's Crosstime Saloon (Message 1052207)
Posted 1 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yeah, I quit drinking once too. Worst 3 days of my life.

Unfortunately, fruit wines usually peak at about 6 to 12 months, and then start to slide into vinegar. I would get that stawberry wine to somebody real quick.
2003) Message boards : Cafe SETI : NASA announcement thursday (Message 1052203)
Posted 1 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In 2011, NASA plans to launch the Mars Science Laboratory rover which will continue the search for past or present life on Mars using a variety of scientific instruments. The European Space Agency has been developing the ExoMars astrobiology rover, which is to be launched in 2018.


Could be an update on this.


I think that falls under #2 on my list.
2004) Message boards : Technical News : Continuing Progress (Message 1052124)
Posted 1 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, if it was I In charge, I'd give these guys a call (or a similar vendor)
http://www.racksolutions.com/home/all-products-by-photo/server-racks-cabinets-enclosures.html "Fits any server" and see if they can build me one that works.

They also say “Dell, HP, IBM, Cisco compatible”, which tends to imply that incompatibilities exist, and at any rate what the SSL seems to need is “Fits any collection of half a dozen assorted servers”. ;)


Unlike many other industries, the computer business has never had much success at generating standards through neutral bodies like ISO or IEC. Maybe because standards are typically on development cycles so much longer than the hardware and software.

personally, I blame Bill Gates.
2005) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Callahan's Crosstime Saloon (Message 1052122)
Posted 1 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Eric used to make apple cider, but he hasn't done it in years now.


Apple cider tastes too good fresh. I can never let it harden.


I used to have the same problem with home made wine. They say age it for 6 months, I say let's try one to see if its getting better. (In the few hours since the last one we tried.) I don't think any of it ever made to to 6 months, unless it was totally undrinkable. And in my youth, not much was undrinkable.
2006) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Callahan's Crosstime Saloon (Message 1052107)
Posted 1 Dec 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
From my experience, making beer is WAY more finicky than making wine at home. I would guess that 50% or more of my beer batches were chucked away before bottling. I think the problem was "wild yeast". Wine, OTOH, was pretty tolerant of my amateur attempts.

You can buy pretty nice grape concentrate these days, or you can hang out at the fruit stands and buy stuff just past its peak at low rates. Like Kenzie said, it can pack a good kick. And sometimes it even tastes good.
2007) Message boards : Cafe SETI : NASA announcement thursday (Message 1052048)
Posted 30 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In decreasing order or probability:

1. They will ask for more funding
2. They will announce an exo-bio instrument on some planned satellite that may or may not be built in 10 years.
3. One of the extra solar planet searches has found another Goldilocks planet
4. One of the extra solar planet searches has found signs of water vapour in the atmosphere of a Goldilocks planet
5. One of the extra solar planet searches has found traces of organic compounds in an atmosphere
6. another WOW signal
7. They will finally open the vaults at Roswell
2008) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 3 (Message 1052037)
Posted 30 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
at least it is clear here.. a bit nippy. Rained most of turkey weekend.

Oh.. Tech news is reading like a computer geeks version of a um... let me try and be civil and say "romance novel"

Such poetry.


Hey, geeks are allowed to be romantic. They just do it differently.
2009) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 8 (Message 1051778)
Posted 29 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We have a winner, well done Zeus. It was pretty close, I have to give a well deserved Second Place to DVW. He almost had it.


I don't think I deserve to win. Dirk has done all the hard work and I'm sure he would find the name of that building too. If it's ok with you Bill, I would pass the next round over to DVW?

That is a part of the game. Do all the work except the last little bit and watch someone else take it.


Still and all, Dirk had found the building, on a confusing web site which could be read to indicate the building was in Wisconsin. I was trying to think how to declare a tie, when Zeus offered to step back. If my vote counts as the starter of this iteration of the contest, the winner is Dirk. With Special Honourable Mention to Zeus.

The rules say "PM the winner", and I have PM'ed Dirk.
2010) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 8 (Message 1051723)
Posted 28 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We have a winner, well done Zeus. It was pretty close, I have to give a well deserved Second Place to DVW. He almost had it.


I don't think I deserve to win. Dirk has done all the hard work and I'm sure he would find the name of that building too. If it's ok with you Bill, I would pass the next round over to DVW?


Fine by me.
2011) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest (Message 1051699)
Posted 28 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Zero.


Meaning she stole them all?

My guess is one.
2012) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 8 (Message 1051695)
Posted 28 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

The chrome dude´s name-->Shakespeare.
The building--->The Carthage Writing Center



Chrome dude - correct.

Building - wrong.

Hint: you missed by about 350 miles.


Name of the building is Festival Theatre.



We have a winner, well done Zeus. It was pretty close, I have to give a well deserved Second Place to DVW. He almost had it.
2013) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 8 (Message 1051656)
Posted 28 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

The chrome dude´s name-->Shakespeare.
The building--->The Carthage Writing Center



Chrome dude - correct.

Building - wrong.

Hint: you missed by about 350 miles.
2014) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 8 (Message 1051644)
Posted 28 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Shakespeare Festival--->Stratford Shakespeare Festival

.....[extract]Each October, in one of Carthage's most cherished traditions, about 50 students, faculty,
staff and alumni board a bus and travel 350 miles to the tiny town of Stratford, Ontario (90 miles from Toronto), for the Stratford Shakespeare Festival,
a world-class theatre festival that attracts actors from all over the globe.[/extract]


OK, that is the town. Now we need the name of the building, and of the chrome dude.
2015) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 8 (Message 1051572)
Posted 27 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, this one is so easy I need the name of the building, the name of town, and the name of the chrome dude.

2016) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 8 (Message 1051570)
Posted 27 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Lucky guess, really. The wife has relatives in eastern Washington state, so we used to drive through the area from Alberta on visits. Klamath Falls was the only town I could think of near Crater Lake.

Looking for a picture now, please stand by.
2017) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 3 (Message 1051569)
Posted 27 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ah, lake effect snow. Got up this morning to drive one hour to a nearby town, looking for an apartment for my son's co-op term next year. Scattered clouds here, about 0C. Sky got cloudier and cloudier as we headed north east, in to the lee of Lake Huron. Started snowing just before we got to the town. Left there about noon, could barely see across the road by then. Several near misses as people around us lost control, inched out of town on the dead slow. Couldn't tell where the lanes were, saw several cars in the ditch. Half way home, the snow stops, the sun comes out. We get home to find blue skies and no snow anywhere - except on our car.

But back on topic. Just poured a large snort of Grant's Sherry Cask Aged Scotch, soon to be followed by a beer chaser. Or two.
2018) Message boards : Number crunching : Return of Seti Pool (Message 1051462)
Posted 27 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So all the posts here in this thread giving dates and times are not competitive or fun?


It is fun if you want it to be fun. It is competitive if two or more say "I'm having more fun than you are".

And I think S@H will split new WUs in mid December. Picking a point in time: 13:47 Zulu on 2010-12-13. It will run the way I want it to run in ... well, probably never.

But I'm having fun! Way more fun than you are!
2019) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 8 (Message 1051451)
Posted 27 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Klamath Falls?
2020) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 1051382)
Posted 26 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sigh... post-party depression. Clean up is sooooo not fun.

Washing dishes in between watching TIVO'ed episodes of Iron Chef America. Eric loves to tease me when I watch this show by saying, "Today's secret ingredient is... RACCOON!!!!"


Good thing Eric hasn't found this web site yet.
2021) Message boards : SETI@home Science : UFO's and Aliens, the truth. (Message 1051174)
Posted 25 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We know about lots of perpetual motion machines that actually do work in reality. The Earth perpetually goes around the Sun, and its free. The Sun perpetually goes around the Milkyway and its free. If we spin a satellite in space, it will keep spinning perpetually until something draws mechanical energy off it. We can easily explain the physics of all of these perpetual motion machines.

John.


Hardly free. you need to expand your accounting a bit. It took energy to start the earth orbiting the sun, energy created by the exchange of potential energy (energy due to position) into kinetic energy (energy contained in a moving mass). Same with the satellite - it took energy to start it spinning. In both cases it will take more energy to change the orbits, or to change the spin. Also, in both cases the stored energy could be converted to another form, but the conversion process can never be perfect. Some energy would be lost. That is why the universe will probably end up as a cold dark place. (But not for many billions of years.)

The common definition of a perpetual motion machine is a machine that produces more energy than it consumes. Your examples neither produce nor consume energy while left in their "perpetual" state.
2022) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VI - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe! (Message 1051150)
Posted 25 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Kenzie's Corollary (to Goodwin's Law): As an online discussion with astronomers grows longer the probability of a Star Wars reference approaches 1.

The Force is strong with this one.

But You aren't a Sith yet.

In the end, the Sith lost...


Or did they?

2023) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 1050710)
Posted 24 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Personally I think removing the feathers might be the worst job. Time consuming at least.



Absolutely. From personal experience many years ago with chickens. Turkeys could only be worse.
2024) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 3 (Message 1050674)
Posted 24 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Steve, I actually had a Chimey draft last week, in an airport bar of all places. Very smoooooth.

Still have a few Laffes in the fridge, think I'll join you in a salute to Belgium.
2025) Message boards : Technical News : Stormy (Nov 22 2010) (Message 1050617)
Posted 23 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All I know is what Matt tells me ..


This may take a while - the spike merge (which was the last major part of the "clean up") did finally complete last week (after running about 2-3 months) but there was still a discrepancy of about a million missing spikes which Jeff is successfully tracking down. So there are a few extra merges to do yet.
2026) Message boards : Technical News : Stormy (Nov 22 2010) (Message 1050609)
Posted 23 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Guess i'm Stupid
I can't see the problem with transferring a db to a new machine
that has more capability

Yes it has to be set up to do the db
Yes the transfer may take some time due to its size
Ok minimize the size to transfer to lessen the time it takes

Where is the down part ??? The great deal taking time ?
It can't be that big



In the first post Matt said the "spike merge" of the existing database took several months, and there is more clean up to do before the transfer. I think this must be a fairly big database.
2027) Message boards : Number crunching : Locking Up (Message 1050570)
Posted 23 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Little update here .... Since I've been unable to get sufficient Seti WUs, I started doing a few from the MilkyWay project to tide me over. Funny thing happened - NO Lock Ups with MilkyWay - only Seti. ???


If you read the Forums at MilkyWay, some users there have been having problems over the last few weeks - lock ups, crashes, WUs finishing in 2 seconds with zero credit, etc.

Given the huge range of computer hardware and software configurations out there, I guess every project will have apparently random problems from time to time. I've had them from time to time with S@H, MW and CPDN. To me, the answer is BOINC, lots of back up projects, and lots of patience.
2028) Message boards : Technical News : Carolyn = replica (Nov 18 2010) (Message 1050556)
Posted 23 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
...now an unplanned outage lasting over a month (something I have never heard of in my 32 years in the IT industry).


The basic error here, and in some other posts, is thinking of S@H as an IT project. Wrong.

It is a science project. IT is one of the tools it uses. Like every science project, there is never enough time or money, so priorities have to be set. Right now we are not crunching, but the project marches on.
2029) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest (Message 1050084)
Posted 21 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Two people? I misread the earlier posts I guess.

Make my guess 385 pounds.

Here's a suggestion for the next contest: how many cats can you own before you are officially a Crazy Cat Lady? Or Crazy Cat Guy, to be fair.
2030) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest (Message 1050077)
Posted 21 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thank you, Madam Chairperson.

Couldn't be an ounce over 275 pounds.
2031) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 3 (Message 1050076)
Posted 21 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'll help too. A cold Moosehead is about to be downed in Steve's honour.
2032) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contest (Message 1050070)
Posted 21 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Point of order, Madam Chairperson:

Given Eric's profession, I suspect that he might point out that weight in fact depends on which planet they find themeselves, and even on where on said planet they find themselves.

Are we in fact guessing their mass, or can we clearly state, for the record, which location on which planet the weight is measured?
2033) Message boards : Politics : Bah Humbug! (Message 1050033)
Posted 20 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
SO, eat your crhtistmas tree, or better yet, get a frontal lobotomy.

And, buddy......this is a response to one I consider as a friend.


You haven't answered the question Mark. How many people are you willing to fry in order to have a nice Christmas?
2034) Message boards : Politics : Bah Humbug! (Message 1050031)
Posted 20 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
a live tree would be hard to argue with. It is a house plant :P


Good point. And it traps CO2.
2035) Message boards : Technical News : Welcome Carolyn and Oscar (Nov 17 2010) (Message 1050030)
Posted 20 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
An electrical drill will make twisted pair really really fast. Learned that from an old hand, too.
2036) Message boards : Politics : Bah Humbug! (Message 1050013)
Posted 20 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Surely it would better to teach people safety such as they do with cooking stoves and other possibly dangerous items in the home?


Hate to get all preachy in a Christmas thread, but this is part of what I do for a living. Yes, you do that, and you put limits on trees (and such) in multi-unit dwellings, and you require people to have smoke alarms, and you have stricter standards for stoves every year, and and and ...

And people still cause fires, killing and maiming other innocent people, every day. The rules and regs do get annoying some times, even for those of us in the business, but what is the alternative? How many people are you willing to fry so you can have a nice Christmas? Pardon the bluntness, but that is what it comes down to.
2037) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Angela is pulling an all-nighter again....... (Message 1050004)
Posted 20 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The pink elephants are no problem. It's the bats. They are always asking tricky questions, and telling me to set fire to things.

Like Christmas trees?


OMG! Do they talk to you too?
2038) Message boards : Politics : Bah Humbug! (Message 1050000)
Posted 20 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It's partly what Chris said - insurance companies. And it is partly what happens to real Christmas trees when stupid people don't water them, and don't get around to throwing them out until March or April. A dry pine tree will literally go off like a bomb, even from the heat of a string of lights. NIST has some cool videos on what can go wrong. And does go wrong several times a year. Trying putting a match to a bound book, and you will see quite a difference.

Like so many things today, the many get stuck with paying for the sins of the stupid few.

BTW, any artifical tree sold in Canada in the last 20 years is VERY hard to light.
2039) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Angela is pulling an all-nighter again....... (Message 1049998)
Posted 20 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The pink elephants are no problem. It's the bats. They are always asking tricky questions, and telling me to set fire to things.
2040) Message boards : Technical News : Welcome Carolyn and Oscar (Nov 17 2010) (Message 1049936)
Posted 20 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
With the speed of the new servers, the cabling strung straight out would cause the flow of data to overheat and melt the cables. Leaving some twists and bends helps to govern that flow and preserve the cable's integrity. Think of it as electronic speed bumps.


Many years ago, as a junior test engineer, I was chastised for neatly wrapping analog signal cables into a nice neat coil. Apparently a random signal through this perfect coil will induce voltages in the adjoining wires at regular intervals, producing a false repetitive signal. The old-timer tech took my neat coil, lifted it several feet in the air, and flung it on the floor. He walked away saying "that's how you do it.".

Moral: neat cables could simulate a false ET signal. Keep up the good work, guys.
2041) Message boards : Technical News : Welcome Carolyn and Oscar (Nov 17 2010) (Message 1049651)
Posted 19 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And then like all cables they balled themselves up gain.


Exactly.
2042) Message boards : Technical News : Welcome Carolyn and Oscar (Nov 17 2010) (Message 1049628)
Posted 19 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
RE: the third photo...

Wouldn't it have made sense, while the space was available, and before you installed the new computers, to have un-snarled that ball of cable sitting on top?


Hey, how do we know what the ball of cable looked like BEFORE the new servers? Maybe they did un-snarl it some. (Just speaking from personal experience with cable snarls.)
2043) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When are the new servers going to be installed (Message 1049315)
Posted 18 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Don't talk about big bangs after Eric mentioned the delicate state of the electrics in the server cubbby hole.


I worked with a couple of techs nick named "Boom Boom" (M*A*S*H mad bomber episode reference) and another "Sparky"


Were there names based on what they did to electronics?


yep


In the Canadian military "Sparky" has long been the nickname for anybody who fixes/installs/tends things electrical. This has leaked over into the aircraft business, where you often hear things like "we'll never get this fixed in time if we don't get another Sparky", or "leave him alone, he's my Sparky". A lot of the Sparkies I know take this as a badge of honour, and are quick to point out misuse of the term. I've been told that just plugging in the coffee maker did not make me a sparky, for example.
2044) Message boards : Cafe SETI : U.S. building next wave of supercomputers (Message 1048911)
Posted 17 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I wonder how hard it would be to "quietly" install BOINC on that beast. That would upset the credithounds.
2045) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 3 (Message 1048300)
Posted 14 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just finished a Moosehead, followed by a Leffe Blonde, while listening to the stereo REALLY LOUD. Good night all.
2046) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Most Disappointing Sci-Fi Flicks (Message 1047872)
Posted 12 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For me, it has to be the remake of "The Day the Earth Stood Still". Was expecting a modern day Hollywood spectacular based on the original.

Sadly, Hollywood ruined another good chance of improving on an original....


Yeah, now that you mention it. I had been blocking that turkey from my memory.
2047) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Most Disappointing Sci-Fi Flicks (Message 1047608)
Posted 11 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I loved Tank Girl, it ROCKED.


I think that is a classic example of how you feel about a movie depending on your expectations. If you were expecting an insightful commentary on the human condition, or a thoughtful discussion of a woman's true and deep relationship with her tank, then Tank Girl sucked. If you were looking for the grins, chuckles, and brief flight from reality you get from an action packed comic book (like I was), Tank Girl indeed rocked.
2048) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VI - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe! (Message 1047282)
Posted 9 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thought it looked minkish. Reminded me of a summer spent on my uncle's mink ranch. They're furry, but not cute and cuddly. Enough to put you off mammals.
2049) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Most Disappointing Sci-Fi Flicks (Message 1047236)
Posted 9 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The evening news. Any channel. Where are the flying cars and robots doing the dishes? It's 2010 already, dang it!
2050) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 3 (Message 1047167)
Posted 9 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I prefer locally brewed Scotch Ale.

I've tried it as well as another local brewery's Scotch Ale and the second one can't hold a candle to it.


Does it taste of Whisky? I am fond of Scottish ales, never tried a Scotch ale.


Actually, there are a few high end Scottish ales (from Scotland) that are aged in old whiskey barrels. It is sort of like a pre-mixed bolier maker.
2051) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CAR RACING 2010 !!! (Message 1047068)
Posted 8 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
According to www.formula1.com, all three of the top teams (Red Bull, Ferrari and McLaren) have used 8 engines already. 9 for Massa. So if Alonso has a "new" engine, it has been overhauled. I expect both Ferrari and Red Bull are very concerned about engines right now.

I agree, it is easy to picture Vettel and Weber taking each other out, even on the first corner. Weber looked pretty grumpy in the interview after Brazil, and Vettel looked like a smart-arse kid who needed a good smack. Should be a good race.
2052) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VI - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe! (Message 1046940)
Posted 7 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Boxing Day in Canada has become an excuse to go out and buy all the stuff you didn't get for Christmas. A lot of cities have passed bylaws making store openings on Boxing Day illegal, but the fines are so low, and the profits so high, that it is more of a fee than a fine.
2053) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VI - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe! (Message 1046807)
Posted 7 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hardest part of being a parent to me, was trying to look mad when the kids did something wrong, and you completely and totally recognized yourself doing the same kind of thing as a kid. If you laugh you fail your job!!


Been there ... laughed once or twice... but everything seems to have turned out well (touch wood).

Edit: just remembered a good recovery from one time I laughed ... said something like "yeah, I did that too, and got away with it, so I know exactly how embarrassed/stupid/pained you feel right now. Let's both learn from it and move on."
2054) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VI - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe! (Message 1046320)
Posted 5 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The truth is slowly coming out ...

Exploding Raccoon Causes Power Outage in Athens
2055) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VI - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe! (Message 1046294)
Posted 5 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Did anyone see CSI last night?

I've never seen a show where someone was killed by an explosion propelled raccoon before.


Another one of those dirty little secrets that Hollywood won't admit to.
2056) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (41) Server problems (Message 1046132)
Posted 5 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Steve, 5 points lets you open a beer, 10 points lets you open a bottle of wine. Works for me all the time.
2057) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Recognise anyone? (Message 1046130)
Posted 5 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
They missed one Chris. One of my former employers never had problems, only opportunities. Always spoken as if it was in bold text.

I remember one annual audit at the little branch I worked in. We were all sitting around while the auditors looked over their notes, and then the head auditor faced us with an expression like an undertaker, drew a heavy sigh, and said, "Well, you have a lot of opportunities here right now".

Another one they missed: little opportunities were always low hanging fruit.
2058) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm going to be a mommy!!! (Message 1045993)
Posted 4 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Actually Steve, they are more like puppies than snakes. In my experience.

Praise them right away, in public, whenever they deserve it. Blaming should be done after some thought, probably one-on-one. But don't wait too long, or they forget what you are talking about. Just like with puppies.
2059) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm going to be a mommy!!! (Message 1045981)
Posted 4 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You're in for a great adventure Kenzie. It will be thrilling, aggravating, rewarding and infuriating, but never boring.

I found it helped to remember what I was like at that age (probably easier for you than me). Sometimes when they say no, it means "no", and sometimes it means "what do you think?" or even "I just don't know". Sometimes it takes trial and error to find out which. Don't be afraid to make mistakes, as long as you admit them (to yourself and to Alissa), and then hopefully you can both learn from them.
2060) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (41) Server problems (Message 1045980)
Posted 4 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm very happy to see this, since I'm only in it for the credit.
2061) Message boards : News : The project is down while we remodel our database servers. (Message 1045710)
Posted 3 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I still have all my Mike Mars books. And Tom Swift,Jr.
2062) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (41) Server problems (Message 1045618)
Posted 2 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The project stats have updated perfectly for 4 days in a row. I find this quite worrisome.


It's probably a Sinister Plot. Or at least an Evil Scheme.
2063) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (41) Server problems (Message 1045541)
Posted 2 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
How can we panic when we don't have a server?
2064) Message boards : Number crunching : Recommendations for alternate projects ?? (Message 1045444)
Posted 1 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think it is an old optimized ap. My copy of the executable is dated July 2009. I get WUs steadily, they are all 4.5 to 5 hours to complete, and I think I had maybe one WU hang up in the last year. I get slightly more RAC per CPU hour with this than with optimized S@H.

From posts over at the MW Forums, it looks like the newer stock aps are sometimes fast, but are causing problems on some operating systems. I will stick with this until I see a reason to change.

Note to mods: I know this is all way off topic, but I hope you will let us sort out how to run other projects until the REAL project comes back.
2065) Message boards : Number crunching : Recommendations for alternate projects ?? (Message 1045439)
Posted 1 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sutaru;

Yes, I downloaded optimized aps from Arkyans's site many moons ago. Haven't really watched closely since then. Here is my MilkyWay ap_info file:

<app_info>
<app>
<name>milkyway</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>astronomy_0.19_SSSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>milkyway</app_name>
<version_num>16</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>astronomy_0.19_SSSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>milkyway</app_name>
<version_num>19</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>astronomy_0.19_SSSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>
2066) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VI - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe! (Message 1045358)
Posted 1 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ooh argh, cap'n.
2067) Message boards : Number crunching : Recommendations for alternate projects ?? (Message 1045357)
Posted 1 Nov 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Maybe Milkyway downloaded a new executable without me noticing. At any rate, my CPU today still takes 5 hours or less per WU.

And I still get this message when I start up BOINC:

31/10/2010 2:16:09 PM Milkyway@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
2068) Message boards : Number crunching : Recommendations for alternate projects ?? (Message 1045265)
Posted 31 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You could try MilkyWay@home, but if you don't have a beefy enough GPU (>512 MB), and aren't running BOINC for at least 4-5 hours per day, I wouldn't recommend it due to the size of the work units and the relatively short deadlines (when crunching with the CPU alone, work units may take 30 hours or more, and the deadline is 8 days).


I'm using optimized aps for MilkyWay, and my dual core CPU with 1G of RAM takes about 5 hours for a WU. Deadlines are usually 7 to 10 days.
2069) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 3 (Message 1044903)
Posted 30 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
... After a while I came out of the Fest Haus, and forgot where I put the roller coaster ...


I hate it when that happens.

Cheers everybody.
2070) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 3 (Message 1044867)
Posted 29 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What happened to part 2?



See what beer can do to you?

Anyway, cheers.
2071) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Dr. S.E.T.I.! (Message 1044723)
Posted 29 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Happy birthday Doctor. Two new servers is a pretty neat birthday present.
2072) Message boards : Number crunching : Recommendations for alternate projects ?? (Message 1044722)
Posted 29 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A cautionary note from many years of running mutliple projects: they ALL have extended, unscheduled downtime now and again. If your goal is to keep the machines grinding with minimal attention, I would suggest AT LEAST two other projects. And, as others have pointed out, when you first add a new project it will take a week or three for priorities and work sharing to sort out, so expect to see some projects go into Panic Mode for extended periods. Patience you must have, young Jedi.

World Community Grid appears to be the best at uptime, but projects within WCG come and go without notice. Fortunately, all their projects are usually feel-good make-the-world-better kinds of things, so I don't mind getting whatever they are serving. Is anybody going to complain because they unexpectedly got WUs for curing childhood cancer?
2073) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Callahan's Crosstime Saloon (Message 1043309)
Posted 20 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What? We were closed? When?

Another scotch please Mike.
2074) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Steelheads V.Cheeseheads, who wins? (Message 1043307)
Posted 20 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
P.S. Which team do you root for Bill?


When it comes to Canadian pro sports, I am doomed by my upbringing. Born in Ontario, cheer for the Maple Leafs (last Stanley Cup in 1967). Moved to Edmonton, where I met my wife, cheer for the Eskimos (last Grey Cup in 2005, 9 and 9 last season).

To be fair to the Esks, I just read that 2005 was their 34th consecutive year in the playoffs. I think that includes the semis.
2075) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Steelheads V.Cheeseheads, who wins? (Message 1043298)
Posted 20 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ah yes, I had heard that you Yanks were playing some sort of football these days. I really must watch a game some time, right after the 101st Grey Cup this fall.


CANADIAN FOOTBALL? Now I remember, thats where we send the borderline players for further seasoning.


Yes, and we send them back after they have learned to count to four (downs, that is).
2076) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Steelheads V.Cheeseheads, who wins? (Message 1043278)
Posted 20 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ah yes, I had heard that you Yanks were playing some sort of football these days. I really must watch a game some time, right after the 101st Grey Cup this fall.
2077) Message boards : Number crunching : Name the newest member to the server family!!! (Message 1043274)
Posted 20 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just to be clear here, the FIRST new server will be Oscar, in honour of a departed friend of our main fund raiser (and hell raiser). We are talking about the SECOND new server here.

I remember an episode where Mork and Mindy had a egg (sort of). Did it have a name?
2078) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's give us a Caption XXV (Message 1041382)
Posted 12 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Alrighty, that's tenish.

Second runner up is
James Southerdon with "The landing was the easy part, Takeoff is going to be a bit tricky though!"
(Just remember, take offs are optional, landings are mandatory)

First runner up is
Skildude with "I said park it IN the hangar...IN!!!"
(that was my first thought when I saw the picture)

The winner is
STEVEN MEYER with "Uh... Houston..."
Only a true wing nut would use that reference.
2079) Message boards : Number crunching : Hardware Donation threads - an alternative solution (Message 1040684)
Posted 10 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

For around $20,000 per year an organization like this would be able to service all of SETI's needs, Web traffic, Databases, Web site, PHP code, Message boards and I'm sure they would be willing to run the rest of the BOINC apps too.


You left out "science" from your lists of "all of SETI's needs". That is done by academics, in an academic facility, with academic funding. Given the sizes of the databases, the databases need to be at the same location as the people using them. I think most or maybe all of the academics are part-timers, with other academic jobs to do, on campus.

People seem to forget that all the IT stuff is only one part of what S@H does.
2080) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VI - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe! (Message 1040582)
Posted 10 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What does a blue screen of death kitty look like?


2081) Message boards : Technical News : recent woes (Message 1040308)
Posted 9 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
what i did notice is the project requests work units and fails after 2-3kb downloaded and waits. each of them requests has a extra bit of traffic. so to get a work unit its about 100 requests not one.

Does anyone at seti know what the limiting factor is is it the Bandwidth. CPU, ram or hdd space?

might be able to offer afew ideas if I knew that :)

;)


Looking at the Cricket graphs I suspect bandwidth. If you have a gigabyte connection you can donate (and install), I'm sure they would take it.
2082) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's give us a Caption XXV (Message 1040187)
Posted 9 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK everybody, here is a genuine antique for you. House full of company this weekend, might not be able to judge until Monday.

023-7 C 568 by wtbalance, on Flickr
2083) Message boards : Number crunching : Out of Work (Message 1040045)
Posted 9 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'll let boinc try to allocate my resource ratio; it never did before, but perhaps boinc has fixed the old limitations.


From recent experience adding projects under BOINC 5 and 6 and later, it does allocate resources, but you can expect it to take some time to settle down when a new project is added. BOINC seems to use a very long period in calculating the actual resource share. If you add a new project at even only 20% share, BOINC tries to make your average share 20% for the last several months. This can mean the new project gets 100% of your CPUs for several days or even weeks, until the average share over the last x months is 20%. It all balances out in the long run though.
2084) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (40) Server problems (Message 1039995)
Posted 9 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
No panic. I have WUs. All is good.
2085) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 2 (Message 1039921)
Posted 8 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Beer, Tequila And Bubbly Wines/Champagne.



All mixed together, or one after the other?
2086) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's give us a Caption XXV (Message 1039746)
Posted 8 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
(Both speaking at the same time...)

"Wow, your breath is HORRIBLE"
2087) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (39) Server problems (Message 1039718)
Posted 8 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
uploaded smoothly but can't report. What at other hosts?


One host reported, other host "Scheduler request failed. Cannot connect to server." 3 WUs still waiting to report on that one.
2088) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (39) Server problems (Message 1039678)
Posted 8 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not so here, yet.

The compressor on the Frozen 920 is starting to complain a bit.
Temps too cool, and no CPU activity to warm it up.
Refrigerant starts to recirculate unexpanded, slugging the compressor.

-34c is very cold.


I know you don't want to run other projects Mark, but could you give some other work to the CPUs to gradually warm thing up at times like this? Maybe somebody can suggest some sort of stress-test or CPU speed test freeware?
2089) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VI - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe! (Message 1039499)
Posted 8 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Our Russell swallows sausage treats so fast I an convinced she does not taste them. But she loves sausage.


I've often wondered about that with dogs I've owned. They don't chew, the food is in their mouth for a second or two only, buty they still have favorites. How can the tell if they like it?
2090) Message boards : Number crunching : what if????? (Message 1039497)
Posted 8 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sounds like a great idea.
2091) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Milky Way barred galaxy? (Message 1039365)
Posted 8 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I agree, post of the year. And head on over to the MilkyWay project to learn more, and to help figure out the exact shape of our little home.

Here is the major "make you go hmmmmm" thing I got from MilkyWay: our present galaxy is the result of a collision between at least 2 galaxies, and the collision is still underway. Did anybody get the licence number of that other galaxy?
2092) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VI - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe! (Message 1039363)
Posted 8 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My little orange dog - Sophie - shared some of my bacon and egg on toast this breakfast.

Good for Sophie, Now If only Grace could eat French Fries like a certain Dog that I know of. :D


Now that's why I'm not a cat person. They are too finicky. I have a relative who had a cat that would eat french fries, but only if they were fresh, and only if they had the right kind of ketchup on them. Any dog, on the other hand, is very happy to eat the container the french fries or the ketchup came in. And the dog looks genuinely happy chewing on the box. Much lower maintenance.
2093) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Callahan's Crosstime Saloon (Message 1038938)
Posted 6 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I misbehaved in number crunching. And i would do it again.


Hey, compared to some you're just a beginner.
2094) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 2 (Message 1038936)
Posted 6 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All these outages have driven me to drink. Another reason I like S@H.
2095) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why? (Message 1038680)
Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Maybe somebody needs to start a Facebook page (or similar) where we can discuss S@H even when it is down. That way the forums could be shut down completly, giving a little extra push to the serious computing.
2096) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 6 (closed) (Message 1038490)
Posted 2 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Singapore?
2097) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stressing about lack of work units? The Solution (Message 1038487)
Posted 2 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A much cheaper way to handle the stress is to just look at your stats once a week or so. But no palm trees.
2098) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why? (Message 1038485)
Posted 2 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Seems to me that S@H is about the science first. Things like the forums are nice, but I can't see the scientists who run this place spending much time improving the forums until they get the science running the way they want. I think they may still have some work to do there.

Everything made by humans can be made better. All it takes is time and money. Since both of these are usually finite, you have to set priorities.
2099) Message boards : Number crunching : Thank you (Message 1038344)
Posted 2 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Or you burn one or two wieners.


I'm cringing just thinking about it. Oooooooooooooooooow.
2100) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS's Give us a Caption XXIV (Message 1038342)
Posted 2 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK gang, sorry for the delay, but I wasn't able to contact the boards for a while. It was either another personal affront by the leftist Berkeley elite against those of us who spend all our money for SETI points, or it might have been the local power failure. Anyway:

Third place to Michael for
PSA 101: "Address your target audience: a notice at eye level is more likely to be read."


In second place Skildude is tied with himself (an interesting mental picture) with
I blame the Democrats for the Beaver education gap

and

I blame the Republicans for the Beaver education gap


And the winner is Blurf, for
"Honey, don't you think you're being a little hard on the Beaver?"


Ah, memories of when watching television was so much less hard work.
2101) Message boards : Cafe SETI : can your local college sports team top this? (Message 1038132)
Posted 2 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Where's Texas?
2102) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS's Give us a Caption XXIV (Message 1038131)
Posted 2 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All good ones people, but it is late. I'll judge in the morning.
2103) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS's Give us a Caption XXIV (Message 1037788)
Posted 1 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Carlos. Try this one gang.

2104) Message boards : Number crunching : Thank you (Message 1037622)
Posted 1 Oct 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is a conspiracy so you will buy 3 packages of hotdogs and 4 packages of buns.


AHA!

Well, that's one off my list.
2105) Message boards : Number crunching : Thank you (Message 1037415)
Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think you need to get organised.


Already covered.

5,346. Find time to worry about all this.
2106) Message boards : Number crunching : Thank you (Message 1037413)
Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

1,500,001. Is there enough beer in the fridge? (Maybe this one should be No 4.)
...


This has made it as high as No.1 on the list, but I went to the beer store yesterday, so it is down around 10,000 or so right now.
2107) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS's Give us a Caption XXIV (Message 1037392)
Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Still not dry, leave them for another hour.
2108) Message boards : Number crunching : Thank you (Message 1037391)
Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My Official Things To Worry About List:

1. What to have for lunch
2. 21 year old son still lives with us
3. The Leafs suck - and the season hasn't even started
...
658. The baggage retrieval system at Heathrow Airport
659. S@H is falling behind in data processing
660. That little lump on my right arm
...
146,752. Why do hot dogs come in packages of 8, and the buns in packages of 6?
146,753. Arecibo will shut down soon, no new work for S@H
146,754. What is that thing on Donald Trump's head?
...
1,499,999. Why did I sell that 1957 Triumph so cheap?
1,500,000. I only have one S@H WU right now.
1,500,001. (this spot available)
2109) Message boards : Politics : UN to appoint Space Ambassador (Message 1037353)
Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There should always be a right to opt out so that it's clear: "That person does not speak for me."


And that is exactly how the Europeans easily overcame the natives in North America, and elsewhere. You cut a deal with this little group, then overpower that little group, and so on. Before you know it the white guys control everything.

Hope the aliens haven't studied earth history before they get here.
2110) Message boards : Number crunching : Thank you (Message 1037350)
Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have officially added S@H to my List of Things to Worry About. It comes in at about 1,500,000,000 on the list right now. I'll get to it in a few centuries, assuming nothing new comes up in that time.
2111) Message boards : Number crunching : If the problem is storage for WU data... (Message 1037349)
Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Jeff Cobb tols us in a recent post that the latest server shuffle has doubled the storage space for uploaded work. There are obviously some other issues still to be worked on.

If all the moaners and complainers would REALLY quit, the rest of us could get some work done here. (ducks, runs away.)
2112) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (38) Server problems (Message 1037162)
Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I got one! An actual S@H WU! That will keep one of my processors busy for nearly 3 hours!
2113) Message boards : Number crunching : Prove me wrong (Message 1037054)
Posted 29 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Perhaps S@H should put Sten-Arne on the payroll?
2114) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 6 (closed) (Message 1037021)
Posted 29 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Lava fields in the Gale Crater? That's the closest I could finds on Google Earth.
2115) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update VI - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe! (Message 1036936)
Posted 29 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Maybe you should try ear tags. Or spray paint.
2116) Message boards : Politics : UN to appoint Space Ambassador (Message 1036889)
Posted 29 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You do realize first contact will probably be with a couple of guys named Earl and Jed out on the back 40 by the corn mash still?



"will be", or "was"?
2117) Message boards : Number crunching : 9 days (Message 1036888)
Posted 29 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
http://boincstats.com/stats/project_graph.php?pr=sah&view=users


This is depressing:
Users: Total:1,126,281 Active:158,335


I think the total number of users is only part of the big picture. Just think about how fast the typical computer was 5 years ago, and how fast it is today. The total science being crunched is still all S@H can generate. The main topic on these threads today seems to be "why can't I get more work?". Seems to me that getting more users (or even retaining the existing users) won't solve that problem.
2118) Message boards : Politics : UN to appoint Space Ambassador (Message 1036632)
Posted 28 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, how much does this person get paid while waiting for the first contact? How do I apply?
2119) Message boards : Number crunching : I'm frustrated (Message 1036451)
Posted 26 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK -- and I agree with you that (primary goal 4) is clearly the original primary goal. And yes, this project with its vast user base clearly pushes the current distributed process design and hardware capabilities up to (and over) the edge. I actually think it is less an issue of tossing money at the current problem, than recognizing some quite real limitations of the current design.


I agree. Right now the limit is how much work can be generated, and processed in some meaningful way. S@H shifted resources to processing, the available work dropped (for a variety of reasons) and everybody moans and groans. The available staff and resources can be used to produce more work, or process results, or come up with a new process. I think they are trying to do a balance of all this, and as a result both producing work and redesigning the process are slow. Can't have it both ways people.
2120) Message boards : Number crunching : down time (Message 1036382)
Posted 25 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

How many month's of limited shutdowns & screw up weekends is ENOUGH


Well, you and I are still here Robert, so I guess it is not enough yet.


They should concentrate on making it work for now


I think they are. These things take time.


They are getting a new SUPER server we paid for as soon as they can get the time to get it


I'm sure this will help, for a while. But I don't expect it to fix everything for ever. Development marchs on, us users will bog this new one down in some finite period of time.


Why keep messing with what will change NEXT month anyway
I think it's EXTREMELY short sited


Everything will change next month, not just S@H. And then change again the month after that. Us old guys need to get used to it.
2121) Message boards : Number crunching : I'm frustrated (Message 1036379)
Posted 25 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
BarryAZ, I think you left out one:

Primary goal number 4: look for ET.

When I read your three primary goals I agree with them in principal, but nowhere does it say "make this all run smoothly for ever". You need to push limits to find out where they are. When you push limits, "stuff" happens. That is how we learn. When we learn how to handle the last limit we hit, we need to move on to the next one. Otherwise, this is all just a screensaver.
2122) Message boards : Number crunching : down time (Message 1036252)
Posted 25 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I agree that running multiple projects will get rid of most of your frustration. To get rid of all your frustration with S@H/BOINC, stop looking at your list of tasks and stats every 5 minutes. Do it once or twice a week, and you'll be much happier. And you will get just as much work done.
2123) Message boards : Number crunching : Any estimates to when Oscar will come online? (Message 1035602)
Posted 24 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
... let me point out that I have files in my home directory from unfinished projects (that I'd like to get wrapped up at some point) with last-modified date stamps from the 1990's.

- Matt


LOL. I throw those out after 10 years Matt. If it is really important, somebody will ask.
2124) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (38) Server problems (Message 1035600)
Posted 24 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I just had most of my completed work upload, but can't update or download.
2125) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aliens messing with our nukes??? (Message 1035542)
Posted 24 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It's from Fox News,and its on the Internet. It must be true.
2126) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS's Give us a Caption XXIV (Message 1035435)
Posted 24 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


These mixed marriages never work.
2127) Message boards : Technical News : Sforzando (Sep 23 2010) (Message 1035275)
Posted 23 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks for the news Matt. Sounds like good things on the way.
2128) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thank you Jimi for your music. (Message 1034307)
Posted 19 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I agree.
2129) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 2 (Message 1034006)
Posted 18 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey, can't upload, can't download, might as well have a beer.

Have a beer in your misery.

Of course, when you can upload and download, you have to celebrate and have a beer.


I totally agree.
2130) Message boards : Number crunching : Cool runnin? (Message 1033777)
Posted 17 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Maybe its time for the servers to come out of the closet?
2131) Message boards : Number crunching : Why not? (stirring the pot) (Message 1033776)
Posted 17 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well said soft^spirit. Including the bit about tinfoil hats.
2132) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update V - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe! (Message 1033582)
Posted 17 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Some people have WAY too much spare time.
2133) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 2 (Message 1033423)
Posted 17 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just finished an ice cold Moosehead, as a chaser to a shot of Jamiesons. I'm good.
2134) Message boards : Number crunching : Why not? (stirring the pot) (Message 1033421)
Posted 17 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm in it for the science too, so I'll let the scientists decide about uptime and downtime. They might know more about all this than I do.
2135) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 2 (Message 1033168)
Posted 15 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey, can't upload, can't download, might as well have a beer.
2136) Message boards : Number crunching : Cool runnin? (Message 1033094)
Posted 15 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Frankly Captain, I fail to see the logic in requesting further output from an obviously over-tasked and under-funded system. I assume your human emotions are leading you astray. Again. (one eybrow rises)
2137) Message boards : Number crunching : Cool runnin? (Message 1033086)
Posted 15 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Dammit Jim, he's an engineer, not a weenie!!
2138) Message boards : Number crunching : Cool runnin? (Message 1033083)
Posted 15 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The servers cannae take it cap'n. They'll blow!!
2139) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome to the 11 year club (Message 1032037)
Posted 9 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just noticed I passed 11 years a few days ago. And I passed 1,000,000 total credit today as well.
2140) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Vote for Oscar {new server name} (Message 1032034)
Posted 9 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I vote (or whatever this is) for Oscar.

Yes, it could be the start of Sesame Street names. It could also be the first in the line of Emmy, Golden Globe, and Pulitzer. If the Canucks come up with the bucks, we could have Juno and Gemini. And so on.
2141) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 2 (Message 1031878)
Posted 8 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Unrelated, am sure...


Beer, culture ....

Obviously related, in my opinion.
2142) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 5(closed) (Message 1031505)
Posted 7 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is this in Honolulu?
2143) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 5(closed) (Message 1031275)
Posted 6 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, I think it was The old St. Thomas Railway Station.


Winner! PM going out on the next train.

St. Thomas was a sleepy little town in 1873, when the station opened, but the building was over-sized for 2 reasons:

It was corporate headquarters for the Canadian Southern Railroad, which was created with US money to build a short cut between Chicago and New York along the north shore of Lake Eire, bypassing the mountains on the New York - Pennsylvania border, and

the station served as a junction between several US railroads and the big Canadian railroads of the day, the Canadian Pacific and the Grand Trunk, whose mainlines passed through my home town, about 15 miles north of the station. In 1873 you could catch an all-electric train from here to either of the London stations, and from there reach just about any place in Canada. CSX freights still use the one line left in front of the station, on their way between Detroit and Buffalo.

This picture was taken from the grounds of the huge CSR engine shop, which today is the Elgin County Railway Museum. A must see for any train nuts passing through SW Ontario. Another useless fact: Jumbo the elephant was run over by a train just to the left of this photo.
2144) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 5(closed) (Message 1031242)
Posted 5 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, southern Ontario. You are on the right "track" asking why the building is so big.

Oh, and looking at an earlier post, this was on a main line. Just not one of the "big two" in Canada.
2145) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 5(closed) (Message 1031190)
Posted 5 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, there would have been lots of iron horses parked in front of this old passenger train station back in the day. It was not built for the Canadian Pacific Railroad, although the CPR became a part owner in the 1980s, over 100 years after it was built. (That should be a BIG clue to the serious Canadian train buff.)
2146) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 5(closed) (Message 1031154)
Posted 5 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Canada - yes.

Horses - well, a special kind of horse was involved. Not oat burners.

Second hint - the flat grassy area in front was flat when the place was built and in daily use, but it wasn't covered in grass then.
2147) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 5(closed) (Message 1031061)
Posted 5 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And what is the question?


At a minimum, the location and function of the building.

For bonus points, any of the several names it has had in the last 130+ years (your first clue).
2148) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 5(closed) (Message 1031014)
Posted 4 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, that was too easy. Here is another easy one.

2149) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 5(closed) (Message 1030911)
Posted 4 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The restored Viking settlement in Newfie-land?
2150) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS's Give us a Caption XXIV (Message 1030908)
Posted 4 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This is going to be so cool - for about another second.
2151) Message boards : News : Arecibo Observatory Repair Status (Message 1030502)
Posted 3 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My moral is fine thank you, I get lots of work and keep busy through the downtime. Reading the Forums and the home page gives me a general idea of what the boys are up to, and the problems they face. It also shows me lots of people asking for more work, and no sign of mass exodus of volunteers.

I also see they are begging for a few strips of RAM, maybe $100 worth. Hiring a full time PR person seems very low on the "do do list" under the present circumstances.
2152) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 2 (Message 1030170)
Posted 2 Sep 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I hear yah John. All those honey ales and fruit beers are a waste of perfectly good barley and hops, in my opinion.
2153) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The aliens are here! (a what-if scenario) (Message 1029821)
Posted 31 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'll just take 'em down the local pub, buy them a few pints of decent real ale, and then while they're not looking I'll pinch their phasors!


Frankly Captain, I fail to see the logic in your plan.
2154) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 2 (Message 1029819)
Posted 31 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

(to the tune of old time religion)
If it's good enough for ancient druids
runnin nekkid through the wuids
drinkin strange fermented fluids
it's good enough for me!


We will worship Aphrodite
as she dances in her nightie
Give me that old time religion
It's good enough foe me!
2155) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 2 (Message 1029352)
Posted 29 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I agree. Draft first, glass second, and cans a distant third. However, when you are in the wilds of the New World and can't get Guinness or Boddington on tap, the little gizmos in a can are better than nothing.

Bottled Guinness in North America is terrible, and bottled Boddington is exceedingly rare.

A few of the local microbreweries do 1 and 2 litre plastic bottles, that I would rate somewhere between glass and can. Hard to be sure, since I have never seen the same brews in glass. It also helps when you can say to the wife, with a straight face, but I only had 2!
2156) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 2 (Message 1029270)
Posted 28 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is canned beer as good as bottled? Maybe better!!

http://gizmodo.com/5622938/canned-beer-is-the-future-of-good-beer?skyline=true&s=i


What a load of ... well, bad beer.

Without offending anyone, I'll just say that the beer you like is based on your taste. Both "taste" as in what you taste, and "taste" as in what you like. There are enough people out there that CAN taste the epoxy in the can, and who care about it, to make sure that beer in bottles will be around for a long time.
2157) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe 082410 (Message 1028880)
Posted 27 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is it true that the older you get the higher the top of your pants gets and when very close to death you start wearing cardigans. ???


No, it's the day you wake up and think god, I'm turning into my father! (or mother in the case of women) :-)

I don't wear braces or cardies, but 1 do wear slippers at home, nothing to do with age my feet get cold dammit!


The day I realized I was turning into my father was the day my kids got old enough for me to try to reason with them - beyond "because I said so". Almost immediately, I found myself daily thinking "so this is how pissed off he was when he said that to me. Now I get it."

And yesterday I wore slippers in the house. In August. It was cold, dammit.
2158) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update V - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe! (Message 1028876)
Posted 27 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Pasi, look out for those bears. As a friend of mine likes to say - "when you enter the forest you are no longer at the top of the food chain".
2159) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update V - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe! (Message 1028794)
Posted 27 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We get reports of "big cats" around my end of London every few years. No photos or footprints yet, but several reliable and consistant eye witness reports. Current thinking is that is probably an escaped pet, since there has not been anything bigger than bobcats native around here for over 100 years, and even the bobcats are scarce near a big city.
2160) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe 082410 (Message 1028763)
Posted 26 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is it true that the older you get the higher the top of your pants gets and when very close to death you start wearing cardigans. ???


Actually, it is nothing to do with age. It is all a question of attitude.

2161) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's my five year Seti-versary! (Message 1028760)
Posted 26 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Congrats, Es! I joined over 10 years ago, under the impression that credits were redeemable for beer.

Wasn't that a toaster? ;-)

Gruß,
Gundolf


I'd trade a toaster for beer any day! You can't drink a toaster.... :)

Steve


But you can toast a drinker. Cheers!
2162) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe 082410 (Message 1028591)
Posted 26 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I say hello
Hello, hello
I don't know why you say goodbye
I say hello


Just about the worst lyrics in the world!


I thought Brits were required by law to like the Beatles.
2163) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXIII (Message 1028498)
Posted 25 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, time to get off my butt and pick a winner. Several of you came close to my first thought, "a team of crack mechanics hard at work".

Third place is brother Gary C., from Local 264 of HPFW (the Helicopter Plumbers Federation of the World): "Working on the hydraulics is the same union as plumbers"

Second place goes to a rum inspired soft^spirit: "Another Halfassed Job"

And first place goes to intrepid aerospace investigative reporter .....


BLURF! "The new X-14 single pilot helicopter was delayed in its finishing touches due to cracks on the fuselage."


Over to you Blurf
2164) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Daves Seti Book (Message 1028392)
Posted 25 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I would suggest you also talk about WHY S@H is run, as well as the HOW. There is some great background material and graphics accessible at the SETI at Berkeley web site. If you are using this for non-profit eductation, I suspect there shouldn't be any copywrite issues.
2165) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 2 (Message 1028366)
Posted 25 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I hate being at work, and having all the good links and pictures blocked. I can't wait to get home in about 3 hours. They don't even let me guzzle beer here. :(

Steve


Time to move Steve. When I worked for a German company in Bavaria they sold bottled beer in the company store (in the basement of the main office building) and the cafeteria had 3 kinds of draft beer at lunch. You had to put each one in the right glass, otherwise you would get a stern lecture from the cash register lady.
2166) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 2 (Message 1028363)
Posted 25 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That's all well and good, Dune, but what was he drinking? We need to know.
2167) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 15 (Message 1028281)
Posted 25 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
After a long search and vetting process Honolulu contracted with a company to take away our refuse (becasue we have limited space for landfills). The permits, political approvals and EIS process were finally at the point where the shipping of shredded and baled bundles could start loading for a mainland destination, when a North Western native nation sued to stop the shipments of our "exotic" waste to the intended site. It's not clear if the native Americans own the land where the intended repository would have been, or if they are concerned about collateral effects, but no one seems to mind comming to our "exotic" state and leaving their cast off waste here. But when we want a little help from our friends on the mainland, well that's another story. I can't believe there is no place where refuse can be put on the mainland that we can share.


This is certainly becoming a hot issue everywhere. Just down the road from me Canada's largest city, surrounded by recently incorporated suburbs, ran out of land fill space years ago. They trucked their garbage to a private land fill in Michigan for several years, until local groups there raised a stink (no pun intended) and had that outlawed. Now the 200 trucks a day come to a commercial landfill in my little city, and the locals here are again raising a stink. The highway between here and there is the busiest in Canada, with several truck accidents every week. The only ones to make the TV news are the Toronto garbage trucks.

And if you want to see "exotic waste", take a look around any international airport in the world. Somewhere on the airport property you will find a garbage compactor and an enclosed storage facility, full of garbage off flights from other countries. Nobody wants that stuff either. Sooner or later the airports will fill up, and then what?

I guess the answer is for everybody to look after their own garbage. Reduce, re-use, re-cycle.
2168) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXIII (Message 1028263)
Posted 25 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks John. Try this guys and girls. I have my caption picked already.

2169) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 2 (Message 1028257)
Posted 25 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It's early morning here, so I'm into green tea with jasmine right now. Cheers!
2170) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 2 (Message 1027898)
Posted 24 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I came here, to drink a beer!

Steve



Into cheap Italian Syrah tonight, but I'll raise a glass of that to you. Cheers!!!
2171) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXIII (Message 1027897)
Posted 24 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


So class, you see that if we squish the package first, we can get lots more of them in the truck.
2172) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #123 - The Hot Dog, Er ULi Wins (Message 1027810)
Posted 23 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning with a housefull of boys...if that can be called winning.

4 sons between us...then they want their friends to stay...then they want their friend's XBoxes to stay...

I must be getting through 2 boxes of cereal a day plus milk.


Could be worse. In a few years it will be 2 boxes of beer a day.
2173) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's my five year Seti-versary! (Message 1027806)
Posted 23 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I don't like cats.

What???

Didn't you check the "Yes, I like cats" checkbox when installing BOINC?


Just funnin' with ya. I love cats, especially with mustard.

No wait, that's hot dogs.
2174) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's my five year Seti-versary! (Message 1027779)
Posted 23 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I don't like cats.
2175) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe Closed 082410. (Message 1027726)
Posted 23 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Isn´t it a little bit to cold for a paddle Jeff ?


The poeple that invented the kayak chose the shape to make it easier to pull over ice floes (amongst other reasons). You just have to dress for the weather.
2176) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread 2...... (Message 1027721)
Posted 23 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I read recently that Edison developed the cylinder recording system for office use, the first dictaphone. He was very skeptical that anyone would listen to music on them, because of the low quality. The first stereophile snob, perhaps?
2177) Message boards : News : "Are We Alone?" The Great Debate (Message 1027719)
Posted 23 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The recent BBC article and interview with Seth Shostak is interesting because, among other things, it questions whether we're looking for the right kind of signal. Any civilisation following a similar technological path to our own will only be detectable by our radio telescopes for a limited period whilst they're using high-power omnidirectional radio to communicate around their planet. If they follow our path, then within 100 years they will switch to using lower-energy more efficient point-to-point communications, or they'll use fibre-optic. If true, that greatly lowers the odds of finding them by using a radio telescope.


From an earlier post by the staff at Berkely, they recognize this and think that the best bet for SETI@Home is to find deliberately radiated signals, "here we are" kind of a thing. Berkeley is also pursuing other methods of detecting intelligence life out there, besides S@H. Take a look at http://seti.berkeley.edu/
2178) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Quote of the Day (Message 1027693)
Posted 23 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All that is past is prologue.

Saw some Shakespeare on the weekend, you could post a lot of great quotes from his work.
2179) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wonder if he runs SETI? (Message 1027602)
Posted 23 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You do all realise that you are inviting the presence of .....


Some nutter?
2180) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread 2...... (Message 1027594)
Posted 23 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hear what you are saying Bill, and yes you are right. Long live Quad valve amps!


Ah, that brings back memories of my Dynaco pre-amp, monoblock amps, and FM tuner. Purchased second hand in my freshman year in university, and re-tubed at a local surplus store. The clerk was as excited to see Dynaco as I was to own it. Then I added a switching box designed by an EE roomie and built by me without having a clue what all the bits were for. It all worked! Together with an AR turntable, and home made 3 way speaker enclosures, they made great music for several years. My budget for the last few decades has meant solid state integrated amps, but they can be pretty sweet too.

When I win the lottery I may go back to tubes.
2181) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wonder if he runs SETI? (Message 1027588)
Posted 23 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I beg your pardon!!!


They said that running SETI exclusively is the classic definition of a nutter.

Correct. A non-nutter will at least run Beta also! If just to look at the old BOTD posts.


Are you suggesting that most straight women are nutters then?


If the incredibly uncomfortable pointy toed high heeled shoe fits ....

(ducks and runs)
2182) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread 2...... (Message 1027581)
Posted 23 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Us modern guys have got 8 tracks !


Pardon the rant, but ...

The 8 track was the beginning of the end for the old style record companies. The theory was that people would put up with crappy music reproduction and tracks split in half, in exchange for a little convenience in playing music. This kind of thinking led to mp3s and cheesy bud ear phones. The record companies discovered, too late, that the people who placed convenience ahead of music quality were not long term music buyers. They were just followers of fashion, buying 8 tracks this week and then pet rocks the next. Those of us who really like music (and therefore continue to spend money on it) saw all this and moved away from the main stream companies, and on to smaller specialty manufacturers (of recorded music and of playback gear), and eventually shopping on the Internet. The tirade of the big companies about illegal downloads is just the last gasp of the corporate dinosaurs. The people who steal downloads this week will be on to something else next week. Those of us interested in music pay for downloads, from the companies that offer quality downloads.
2183) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread 2...... (Message 1027504)
Posted 22 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Excuse me, I'm going to go listen to some grown up music, on a real stereo.


on 33rpm vinyl I hope :-)



wasn't that 33 1/3 rpm? ;))




I play both kinds of music, 33.3333333 and 45 rpm (as well as country AND western). My father had a huge collection of 78s, mostly military music. However, the movers did them all in back in about 1966. Actually, I just got back from listening to Bach organ music on CD. How come nobody has written anything better in the last 300 years? Has humankind peaked out? That's my (sort of) goofy question.
2184) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wonder if he runs SETI? (Message 1027502)
Posted 22 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I beg your pardon!!!


They said that running SETI exclusively is the classic definition of a nutter.
2185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread 2...... (Message 1027450)
Posted 22 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey Bill, whatcha gonna do with all that junk, all that junk inside your trunk?


Oh please. I was recently forced to listen to this in someone else's automobile. Shortly after I was in a conversation where somebody said the pop music industry was dying, to which I replied "it's about time".

Excuse me, I'm going to go listen to some grown up music, on a real stereo.
2186) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread 2...... (Message 1027374)
Posted 22 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I wanna know why we put our trunks in the boot, and you put your boots in the trunk !


Cause you don't speak proper English, like what we do over here, eh. Cars don't have boots. Or wings. I mean, geez, eh?

We keep our junk in the trunk, although I understand that phrase has a different meaning for our younger generation.
2187) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXIII (Message 1027153)
Posted 21 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:



Well, smells like the burgers are just about done.
2188) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread 2...... (Message 1027111)
Posted 21 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why was there one raspberry and one apple turnover in my 2 apple turnover box?


Because fast food places only hire at minimum wage.
2189) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 4 (Message 1026976)
Posted 21 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We're all in the same boat here guys. We need to haul away together. We'll be here till launch if we don't get our ducks in a row. Can anybody else float some ideas here? This topic is a real beach.

Soft^spirit, you wouldn't have a bottle o' rum would you? Yo ho ho
2190) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 4 (Message 1026969)
Posted 21 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Becalm everybody, try to get on an even keel. I'm not pirating the thread, just trying to pour some oil on the water. After that last glass of port, I may be three sheets to the wind, but I'm trying to get us anchored. Didn't mean to barge in, but this hull thing is a mess. You sea what I mean? We are all adrift, time to try a new tack. Don't worry though, we can get it all ship shape, as long as we don't go overboard.
2191) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Battle of Britain 70th Anniversary (Message 1026770)
Posted 20 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I see a Spitfire, a Hurricane but I am dubious about the third one. A Lancaster?
Tullio


Correct. Not quite a Battle Of Britain veteran, but still maintained and operated by the Battle of Britain Flight. All 3 aircraft in the photo are still owned and operated by the RAF, along with a Chipmunk and a Dakota used by the BoB Flight for practice.
2192) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Battle of Britain 70th Anniversary (Message 1026754)
Posted 20 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Who won? :-)


Quoting from a bumper sticker on a relative's car:

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you're reading it in English, thank a soldier.
2193) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update V - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe! (Message 1026753)
Posted 20 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Reminds me of my senior citizen spaniel, who used to guard us by looking out the front window. Nowadays he winds up like this after a few minutes guarding.


2194) Message boards : Politics : . . . a 'voice' from the past (Message 1026738)
Posted 20 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Richard, this narrow minded penny pinching mentality isn't limited to your country, I'm afraid.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/08/19/f-veterans-anger.html
2195) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread 2...... (Message 1026705)
Posted 20 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why when we bend down to get something, do we all go ooof! And don't say you don't either !! :-)


Letting air out of your lungs, to make your torso more flexible. (And yes, I do it too, although mine is more whoof than ooof.) I guess if we breath in while standing up it helps in the other direction, but we seem to do this quietly.
2196) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update V - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe! (Message 1026663)
Posted 20 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We had a wild turkey take up residence in a large cemetery a few blocks from ourplace several years ago, not that far from downtown. It was regular enough that the city put up a "turkey crossing" sign on a nearby busy road. It disappeared right before Thanksgiving - surely just a coincidence.
2197) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #123 - The Hot Dog, Er ULi Wins (Message 1026451)
Posted 19 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm not sure that last bit is true. I have problems here in Canada because I have no credit history at all.


I think it is very true in Canada. Both my kids got credit cards in high school, with VERY STRICT limits (the bank and their parents). Balances were always paid off every month. As a result, when my daughter went for a car loan after she graduated the bank financed 100 % and asked why she didn't buy a bigger car. This was two weeks before she started her job, but she had a letter of offer and several years good credit record. We didn't have to co-sign. Friends of hers with no history had to wait, or get mommy and daddy to co-sign their first car loans.

I've worked with a few UK immigrants who had the same problem, none of their credit history (good or bad) followed from the UK. They got a bank credit card, very restricted, paid off the few dollars a month they were allowed, and within 6 months were good for loans and mortgages. You just use the card for stuff you were going to buy anyway, no need to actually go into debt.

2198) Message boards : Number crunching : whats your oldest pending task? (Message 1026436)
Posted 19 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
you completed, one aborted, one detached, one still in progress.


It looks to me like I completed, one aborted, was then resent, and completed and reported on 30 July. Why the delay? This is outrageous. Outrageous, I say! I may quit!! (huff, huff, huff) Well, maybe not.
2199) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update V - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe! (Message 1026434)
Posted 19 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Crikey! Somebody on an earlier post said "try not to look like a salmon". I guess in your case it would be "try not to look like a thawed rabbit".
2200) Message boards : Number crunching : whats your oldest pending task? (Message 1026428)
Posted 19 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You win, my oldest is 14 June 2010. One wingman aborted on 26 July, a second one completed on 30 July, so I'm not sure why this is still pending.
2201) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1026353)
Posted 19 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Reminds me of a joke. sadly it's both adult and tranlates badly into english.


Think I know the one, hehe

Why does the lable on my peanutbutter state: allergy advice: contains peanuts ?


To protect themselves from litigation by money grabbing lawyers. Electric kettles have one that says "Warning - gets hot during use".


Having spent many years advising people on how to word safety stickers, I can state that just about every really stupid sticker you see has a lawsuit behind it.

2202) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #123 - The Hot Dog, Er ULi Wins (Message 1026350)
Posted 19 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is very easy to make ham from grain. First, you feed the grain to a pig ...
2203) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1026342)
Posted 19 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why is it that having a vacuum cleaner that "really sucks" is actually a good thing?


My new shop vac has a place to attach the hose that runs it as a blower. It really sucks and totally blows, and I paid extra for that.
2204) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update V - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe! (Message 1026341)
Posted 19 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Having been blessed/cursed with two dogs that want to play with anything alive, including skunks, I have learned to keep a few bottles of hydrogen peroxide and a box of baking soda by the big sink in our basement. This really works, unlike the fancy stuff the pet supply store will sell you. It has to be mixed fresh, otherwise it doesn't do a thing (learned that the hard way).

Mix about 3/4 of a big bottle of hydrogen peroxide with about 3-6 tablespoons of baking soda in enough water to wash your whole dog. This is for a small dog (like a cocker spaniel). For a medium sized dog, use twice as much, and 3 times as much for a big dog. Add a squirt of liquid soap, to help this stuff penetrate a thick coat. Lather, rinse, repeat. Don't leave it on your dog too long, it will bleach their coat, and make it brittle and prone to falling out.

It works on people too (learned that the hard way too).
2205) Message boards : Number crunching : Multiple Project Delegation (Message 1026337)
Posted 19 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You might want to set "Extra work" to 4 days to work around the SETI outages. With just 2/14 of the computer, CPDN may not have enough resource share to avoid high priority mode.

RAC should be determined by the efficiency of the computer on that particular type of task. It really depends on the computer.


I have it set to 5 days on all machines. Other than that, did the Resource share look ok?


Your new settings should increase your total RAC, since MW is fairly generous with giving out the points. On my newest machine when I had S@H and MW set to equal %, MW gave about 20% more RAC. Obviously different machines give different results, but here is a rough indication of how things shake out on my new machine (dual Intel T5750):

S@H resource = 120 (37.5%), RAC = around 500
MW resource = 100 (31.25%), RAC = around 500
WCG resource = 80 (25%), RAC = around 150
Rosetta resource = 20 (6.25%), RAC = around 50

I don't remember if anybody asked, but are you running optimized aps for MW and SETI? This by itself should roughly double your RAC.

Pardon me for hijacking your thread, but when did these new CPDN work units start? My one old-n-slow machine has CPDN set for 20% resource share, and it gets about 20% of the CPU time, and never runs in priority mode. I think the WU I have there now is still from late last year.
2206) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update V - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe! (Message 1026180)
Posted 18 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
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I don't think I've ever been so baffled when dipping into a thread before.


Then I take it you missed this one?
2207) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe Closed 082410. (Message 1026173)
Posted 18 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
sorry, ignore the double post. and the man behind the curtain.
2208) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe Closed 082410. (Message 1026172)
Posted 18 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
...Euro-Disney where they were then forced to...


... fix their own tap shoes, because ...
2209) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1026171)
Posted 18 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
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No wonder they lost the Empire.


Oi you, behave !!! :-) We Brits like out meat well done OK?


Based on the cooking of some of my elder relatives, you also like your veggies boiled to mush, and everything dripping in grease. To each their own.

And don't get me started about chip butties (sp?). Or the "noveau" English cuisine, like deep fried Mars Bars. I'll stick to real food, like cod cheeks, poutine, Joe Louie's, sugar pie, and fiddlehead greens. Plus a bit of moose now and then. Rare, please.
2210) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1026165)
Posted 18 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
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ans the last steak from a britsh run BBQ I got was raw and professed to be welldone... 5 guys around the bbq insisting the the steaks are perfectly well done after being on for 5 minutes each side. (Regardless of how thick or how hot the bbq or how close to the coals...)


Five minutes per side for any steak less than an inch thick is WAY overdone, in my opinion. I was raised in cattle country, where the preferred cooking instruction for a nice steak was "Knock the horns off, wipe the butt, and wheel it out."

Learning to BBQ requires a systematic approach. I used to keep notes, and still do for a while every time we get a new BBQ. Right now, I have a fairly hot gas BBQ, and 3 minutes per side per inch gives me what I want. The wife needs 4 minutes per side per inch. Temperature is set by holding your hand, palm down, just above the grill. If you can keep your hand there for a quick count of two, the temp is too low. For beef of course. Chicken, lamb, turkey need about a quick count of four or five. Shrimps even lower.

Of course, this is all personal choice. I understand that many Brits throw the meat on, go out for lunch, and then come back to what they call a well done steak for supper. No wonder they lost the Empire.
2211) Message boards : Number crunching : Multiple Project Delegation (Message 1026162)
Posted 18 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Getting back to the original question, I think the best answer to this problem is to have at least two projects on each machine. You may miss getting work for one project from time to time (S@H outrages, MW running out of work, etc.) but at least you will be getting some RAC on each machine. If you had only one project per machine, expect times when a machine may have nothing to do.


How would you suggest setting the Resource share? Setting all to 100 and let it sort it out evenly?


I think that in the long run (over several months) the CPU time allotted will more or less be divided as per your resource allocation. RAC is different however, since different projects will give you different RAC per CPU hour.

So, the question is, are you interested in splitting up the science, or just going for RAC? Splitting science is a personal choice - whatever floats your boat as we say here. For straight CPU RAC, run a high share of MilkyWay with optimized aps, and keep a low share of S@H, also optimized. And maybe a low share of WCG or something, since MW and S@H have frequent outages, that have overlapped in the past. A third project will give you at least some credit when both the biggies are down.

Also, if you are serious about RAC, consider running 24/7. Just keep an eye on temps. I have my laptop throttled to 80 % CPU usage, running 24/7, which gives a good RAC without me babysitting it. And give all this some weeks to sort out before you decide it isn't what you want. This is science, not a video game ;).

Can't comment on GPUs, not in my budget. Others may have other ideas about best RAC.

EDIT: looking at your RAC, I think you currently have a higher resource share for S@H then for MW. If you swap these shares, your RAC will eventually go up.
2212) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1026120)
Posted 18 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why is toast in the UK always burnt?


For the same reason that steaks are always over done, and vegetables boiled for hours and hours. That's just the way it is done, don't you know?
2213) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 3 (Message 1026088)
Posted 18 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
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That is the punniest Thing I have heard all weak.


I'm all in a days, I might have to spend a night in a fort ....


That's pretty week, Chris. Hour goal is to do better than that. Year just going to have to try harder.
2214) Message boards : Number crunching : Multiple Project Delegation (Message 1026082)
Posted 18 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
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One of my machines runs both S@H and CPDN, and it seems to honour the shares I have set - at least in the long run. My CPDN work units run for months at a time, S@H multibeam units take a few days each. (It's an old slow machine.) CPDN ignores the published deadlines, and awards credits in small steps during the crunch.

What s^s MAY have seen is BOINC trying to even out the share when you add a new project. If you add a second project and tell BOINC to split the two projects 50/50, for example, BOINC will run the new project much more than 50% until the long term average of work done gets close to 50/50. This could take weeks, or months. You need to walk away, enjoy a beverage, and come back and look at things after a few weeks.

I have had problems with multiple projects during the SETI server downtimes, as s^s describes, but for me it is WCG that sees an empty computer and trys to fill it. It didn't help that a recent batch of their WUs came down the pipe with an estimated completion time of 3:45, and then took 9 to 12 hours each. Had both CPUs in panic mode for a few days doing WCG, and missed topping up for the SETI outrage two weeks ago.

Getting back to the original question, I think the best answer to this problem is to have at least two projects on each machine. You may miss getting work for one project from time to time (S@H outrages, MW running out of work, etc.) but at least you will be getting some RAC on each machine. If you had only one project per machine, expect times when a machine may have nothing to do.
2215) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe Closed 082410. (Message 1025926)
Posted 17 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Aah! But, that means you have no excuse not to do ...

...tap dancing classes unless...


... your tap shoes are still in the shop getting new tapping thingies put on because ...
2216) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Callahan's Crosstime Saloon (Message 1025658)
Posted 16 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
LOL! I'd almost forgotten that guy. Isn't he an announcer on a Gulf TV network now? You know, the kind of a guy you could trust.
2217) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 2 (Message 1025542)
Posted 16 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Bartender, please recommend a night cap that does not taste medicinal, yet will cure my insomnia?


Any of the fortified wine products work well for me, varied to suit taste and weather.

Port is my favorite in the winter, brandy or cognac in warmer weather. My wife likes Martini Rossi and all its imitators, but they are a little too sweet for my taste. However, you can cut it with a little lemon juice and/or soda water.

Timing is critical. You can't just knock back one of these, lie down, and expect to sleep. You need to develop a ritual, different for everyone, that involves sipping the night cap, something not too taxing to wind down the brain (good book, Sudoko, reading this Forum - but NOT number crunching!), and then to bed.
2218) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update IV - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1025359)
Posted 15 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
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The reason they make cat collars break away is because they try to fit through much tighter spaces, and are therefore much more likely to get stuck on something, causing a strangling hazard for cats.


A dog, on the other hand, will sit and stare at a tight space for hours on end, waiting for somebody to come along and open it.
2219) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 3 (Message 1024800)
Posted 14 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
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Yeah, amazing that there are no repetitions so far. I'm just lapping this up. What will the next step be? I think I have some more in the back of my head, can somebody jog my memory?
2220) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 3 (Message 1024782)
Posted 14 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, I was just going to curl up with a good book tonight, but you have snatched me away. If pressed, I will exercise my brain to see what I can come up with. I hope this will workout.



2221) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #123 - The Hot Dog, Er ULi Wins (Message 1024641)
Posted 13 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Who turned the lights off?


Who said that? It's so dark in here I can't hear a thing.
2222) Message boards : Number crunching : Extended Outage August 3 2010 Problems (Message 1024638)
Posted 13 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Pappa-this question was raised before and I don't remember seeing an answer (my bad if I missed it)...think it's a good one.

Any specific reason the staff can't turn on the servers before they leave on Thursday night?

So they can get some sleep Thursday night?


TGG-you missed the point...I said before they leave


In the past, many of the Berkely gang have come in after hours, or at least spent time on line after hours, when server problems arise. I suspect that part of the new 3 day outrage is giving them some predictable time off.
2223) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 3 (Message 1024581)
Posted 13 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
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WOW, looks like it might be a packed house at the old punwar. Scarecrow had won a week before but as I understand it, he is OUT in the FIELD quite a bit and didnt get to PICK a topic. So I pmed him and said he could choose this week.

So If he dosent show up this week, We get to kick the STRAW out of him.


My brow is furrowed, wondering what will crop up from all this. The mystery grows. Still, could be a good harvest tonight.
2224) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 3 (Message 1024575)
Posted 13 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Welcome back klc53!

The topic appears to be up in the air right now, I guess we shifted gears on the earlier proposal. Whatever, I've got my travelling shoes and my wings on.
2225) Message boards : Technical News : Hemiola (Aug 12 2010) (Message 1024574)
Posted 13 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Matt.. if I might share.. from my experiences of keeping together antiques that were often poorly "refurbished"..

many problems clear permanently upon "re-seating" unplugging, and plugging back in. Other times taking things out, some surprise drops loose(seen or unseen 50/50).. and are then magically "fixed". Whether they were dirty connections, a bit of dust, someones raisinette.. does not really matter as long as they clear. a bad connection invisible to the eye might nearly need "bumped".. and could be gone forever.

We came up with things such as "pencil test".. where while monitoring the signal we tapped the outside case and see if it had effects. And some of the equipment was old enough to even contain mercury relays, where the mercury would vaporize, re-solidify in obscure pieces, and refuse to work until we "bounced" (hold edge of component 3-4" above anti-static surface, drop and catch on first bounce, re-insert) to clear.

These are also good reasons why "fault tolerance" is a good(although expensive) principle.

On the reports going back.. all of these were jotted down as "re-seat to clear."

Because if we told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth... it would have been the Salem Witch trials all over again.


One thing that used to work on CRT terminals, back in the '80s, was to give them a "slap upside the screen". Some terminals would come back to life for a time after the slap. Location (and force) was brand-dependent, and with one of the brands, there were two methods that worked, depending on symptom: the slap, directed at the upper right of the CRT, and lifting the front of the CRT about an inch, and dropping. IBM 3278's were pretty reliable, but when they went, they could (sometimes...) be brought back by slapping the back right corner, and picking up the back about .5 inch, and dropping...


AS a (mostly) mechanical engineer, it does my heart good to see my electronic colleagues adapting the time honoured and tested ways of the mech eng.
2226) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lost Mixology (Message 1024414)
Posted 13 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Moscow Mule



Ah, that brings back memories of the mid 1970s, classy bars in downtown Calgary, and Moscow Mules served in little brass cups. I have no idea why little brass cups, but it was fun.
2227) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Carola !!! (Message 1024413)
Posted 13 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
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Happy birthday Miep.
2228) Message boards : Number crunching : Extended Outage August 3 2010 Problems (Message 1024412)
Posted 13 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
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Might be an idea to think from the point of view of a large data center and adopt their strategies.


Well, the first stategy to adopt is their funding mode. How much are you willing to pay for S@H?
2229) Message boards : Technical News : Hemiola (Aug 12 2010) (Message 1024354)
Posted 12 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, if Hocket referred to the way you guys share work at Berkely, does Hemiola refer to the days between server failures lately? (1 2 3, 1 2 3, 1 2, 1 2, 1 2)

Oh, and thanks for the update.
2230) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update IV - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1024267)
Posted 11 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Awwwww, isn't it cute? Let's give it a name, and see if it likes cat food.
2231) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Waddya mean it's not 42? (Message 1024255)
Posted 11 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Surely that would be a good project for BOINC. A few gazillion work units, each with relatively simple computation requirements.
2232) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1024246)
Posted 11 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The photo appears to show the American side of Niagara Falls.


+1
2233) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 1024156)
Posted 10 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We may be more like ants at a picnic than Aunts at the door.
2234) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Posters and members gone past..... (Message 1024153)
Posted 10 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Then there's Sirius B who's elsewhere, But not here, Unless He changed His name and icon of course.


He still posts from time to time over at the Team Canada Forum.
2235) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News III (Message 1024040)
Posted 9 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very cool Michael, thanks.
2236) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 1024029)
Posted 9 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But one species' Happy Face might be another species' bared fangs. Or upright middle digit.
2237) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Posters and members gone past..... (Message 1024013)
Posted 9 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ozzfan has been Missing.

Nah He's just changed his avatar and name. He's here


And the new name is ...???
2238) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1023991)
Posted 9 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yall otta save it for a pun war.


It ain't no pun, whippersnapper. It be genu-wine frontier gibberish.
2239) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1023987)
Posted 9 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Now you looky here, ya gall durn ferriner ...

I wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here, an no sidewindin bushwackin, hornswaglin, cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter.
2240) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1023925)
Posted 9 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey y'all yee harr, any grits on that thar stove?


Y'all mean that stove thar, or t'other one over yonder?
2241) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1023912)
Posted 9 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why do "slow down" and "slow up" mean the same thing?


Round these parts using "slow up" would label you as a rural type. Along with "hang a left" instead of "turn left", or "hang tough" for "wait a bit".

Also, discussing the merits of round hay bales versus square hay bales would probably get labeled rural.
2242) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When Will You Overtake NEZ ? (Message 1023851)
Posted 9 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
According to BOINCStats, the 20th of March in the year 1,433,084. Seriously.
2243) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1023257)
Posted 7 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It's Friday, chores are done, and I'm about to crack a Rickards Dark. (Locally made, not the Irish one). This one is in honour of Steve, our founding drinker.
2244) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #122 - The HEAT is ON! (Message 1023256)
Posted 7 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sucks more when you had to schedule yourself to show up!



It's lonely at the top.

- Randy Newman

2245) Message boards : Technical News : Hocket (Aug 05 2010) (Message 1023230)
Posted 6 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So now the question: Why don't you split the services more on the old servers???

Because they are unreliable & keep failing.
And then people get all upset when they can't upload or download or report or all three untill the servers have restarted & the databases have been checked & repaired if necessary.


And when the do fail, the scientists at S@H become the most educated IT department in the world, and spend too much time on all the things mentioned above, when they should be looking for ET.
2246) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News III (Message 1023054)
Posted 6 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey guys, go for it. Anybody who wants to add to my little city, in any way, is welcome. I've gone from 2400 in national stats to 240 in about 3 days. If only my RAC went up like that!

So you want me to put your li'l city on the kitty list again?


Yes please.
2247) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News III (Message 1023037)
Posted 6 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey guys, go for it. Anybody who wants to add to my little city, in any way, is welcome. I've gone from 2400 in national stats to 240 in about 3 days. If only my RAC went up like that!
2248) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #122 - The HEAT is ON! (Message 1023027)
Posted 6 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Oh Carola I feel your pain. Fought those battles for many years, running data logging and instrument controlling PCs and laptops, in a company with a standard clueless IT department. Every time I would get one IT manager trained to not touch my stuff, they would go and hire a new IT manager. Switching all my stuff to Unix helped for a while, until a new manager took that as a personal challenge. I remember one particular conversation:

IT guy: I'm here to install Win95.

Me: these boxes don't run Windows.

IT guy pauses, looks confused and then says: but the old Windows is no good. You need Win95.

Me: they don't have the old Windows.

IT guy: but we bought licences for your stuff.

Me: go away.
2249) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The "Something good Happened" Thread (Message 1023022)
Posted 6 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I woke up this morning.


LOL You do reach an age where that seems like a big deal.
2250) Message boards : Number crunching : Helluva spike........ (Message 1023015)
Posted 6 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think this may just be an error in the "short term" graph that Mark linked to. If you scroll down to the weekly portion of that page, it shows the blue line maxed out most of last week, and I think we would have noticed it then.
2251) Message boards : Number crunching : my upgrade (Message 1022860)
Posted 6 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Probably a cheap connector that was loose. Doubt it was the wire....


Agreed. The heat was apparently strongest right where the pin goes into the socket. Could be a poor fit, or foreign material trapped in the interface, or some manufacturing defect that resulted in only a very small contact area between the pin and socket.
2252) Message boards : Number crunching : astropulse validation problems (Message 1022782)
Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Doug, it looks like you are not able to complete Astropulses within the time limit right now, I don't see any successful APs in your list of tasks. you can use "Project Preferences" to select SETI@home Enhanced only. (Be sure to also select "No" under "If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?")

since you are not getting points for AP right now, this should have absolutely no effect adverse on your RAC. Your RAC might even go up slightly if the CPU time currently used on AP went to tasks you can complete.
2253) Message boards : Number crunching : astropulse validation problems (Message 1022780)
Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This raises an interesting question, in 2 parts:

What happens to tasks whose deadline comes up during a scheduled outage? Do they permit reporting afterward?

And similarly, what about Astropulse that come due while the validators are out?

From past similar situations, I expect the project will allow some leeway in reporting times.

Plus a question for Doug: you say the tasks spent 100 hours, so are they showing as complete on your machine, and trying to upload?
2254) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 1022777)
Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This sounds to me like food poisoning waiting to happen...


I guess you would have to catch the little ones yourself. I can't picture walking into the butcher shop and asking to see their warblers and thrushes.
2255) Message boards : Number crunching : astropulse validation problems (Message 1022772)
Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm getting a bit frustrated with astropulse. I have 2 tasks that my computer spent 100+ hours apiece crunching on that have gone past their due date. Both were reported on July 10th and were due on Aug 4th. They're now shown in red as it's Aug 5th. Am I wasting my valuable cpu time on tasks that will never be validated?


I assume that your computer uploaded its results on 10 July, and they now show up in your list of pending tasks. If S@H didn't get a matching report from another user by 4 August, it will send the tasks out to another user when the servers are started up tomorrow. Your pending tasks will remain, until the other user(s) reports.

You've met your deadline, you just need to wait for validation from another user. If it has to, S@H will try a third, fourth, etc. user.
2256) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1022742)
Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Probably I meant Ashkelon.

Ah, Not in Israel either.

edit hint, General Schwarzkopf has visited this place.


Kuwait City?
2257) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1022700)
Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Beirut?
2258) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1022688)
Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Some of the damage appears to have been carefully constructed. A movie set?

Also, I see guard rails in several places. A museum or memorial site? Upscale paintball?
2259) Message boards : Number crunching : Extended Outage August 3 2010 Problems (Message 1022599)
Posted 4 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I speculate that the servers are having problems and until the team can fix them I guess the completed WU file will sit and wait.


Check the notice on the S@H home page. The upload and download servers are off, every Tuesday AM to Friday AM. You're right, BOINC will upload your work when it can, all by itself.
2260) Message boards : Number crunching : Extended Outage August 3 2010 Problems (Message 1022545)
Posted 4 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wonder what Pappa means by 'Here is the next version'.


He starts one of these threads after each 3 day outage. The theory is that this will help us tell if things got better, or worse, or just different.
2261) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (36) Server problems (Message 1022290)
Posted 3 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Did everyone get enough work?


Yes, but...

(Not really a S@H issue, but I feel like griping.) I downloaded a batch of new HFCC WUs from WCG on the weekend, 4 days worth at the estimated run time of 3:45 - which is what the last ones took. The first one took 9:00, the second one took 12:00, and now both CPUs are in full time panic mode on WCG, and will probably be there till Friday.

Oh well.
2262) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe Closed 082410. (Message 1022195)
Posted 3 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
3 more hours, and we will find out. LOL

These are the days when it's all worthwhile.

Just wait till she's a teenager! Then you and Es will be able to commiserate.

@ Mike. I'm truly glad to see you back!

LOL Thats the truth! My son is 12, and I'm dreading it every day. LOL Oh well, my youngest had a great 1st day, and she's looking forward to tomorrow.


From my experience, boys "start" being teenagers at about 14, girls start at 10 or 11. Don't worry, by the time they are 22 or so they become normal again.
2263) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather 2 (Message 1022193)
Posted 3 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Same down here Rick. Had to run the a/c all night, just because of the humidity. Calling for a high of 30 C (86F) with 80%+ humidity, and a chance of thunderstorms in the PM.
2264) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News III (Message 1022192)
Posted 3 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Michael for the stats.

Bill's little city now has 12 inhabitants. I am only doing one click a day, but maybe others can pitch in a little.


So, can somebody tell me the best way to return the favor to the other cities? I signed up at Hydra, but I'm not sure how the "Automatic visit" works. Looks like I visit a random selection of everybody signed up there. Can I restrict my auto visit to the cities listed in this thread?
2265) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1022036)
Posted 2 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Doesn't matter, just look at your map.


Which way up would you hold it ?


That depends on whether you want to actually read the text, or just look at the pretty colours...

I am, of course, falling into the typical European culture based conceit that everybody in the world does (or at least should) do everything the way we do.
2266) Message boards : Number crunching : Outage schedule change suggestion. (Message 1022028)
Posted 2 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You seem to think this project is being run for the benefit of the crunchers. You have to move away from that paradigm and you'll see that the current outrage policy is best for the project.



Well said. That point of view would greatly reduce the number of posts here ;).
2267) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather 2 (Message 1022023)
Posted 2 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That reminds me of how it always starts to rain precisely when I pass the Lancashire/West Yorkshire border...


The rain may never fall till after sundown.
By eight, the morning fog must disappear.
In short, there's simply not
A more congenial spot
For happily-ever-aftering than here
In ....
2268) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1022022)
Posted 2 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You left coast people


Hmmm, that's a new take ... So what happens if you are in the north looking down south???


Doesn't matter, just look at your map.
2269) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1021884)
Posted 2 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The Canadians pronounce tomato "Tom-ay-toe", so why is Clamato pronounced "Clam-ah-toe" instead of "Clam-ay-toe"?


The true Canadian pronunciation is tom-eh?-to. You left coast people get mixed up sometimes, eh. Must be something aboot the weather. Have a good day, eh.
2270) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem reporting tasks (Message 1021883)
Posted 2 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There may be two seperate issues. Removing old ap references on ap.info got ride of the "http error", but I was still getting "cannot connect to server". Deatached, reattached and got one WU, estimating 25 hours to complete (forgot to reinstall optimized aps). After using the Lunatics installer, got 27 WUs, estimating 0:40 to 2:30 to complete (which is pretty close to actual). I'm almost set for the next outrage.
2271) Message boards : Number crunching : Server Run, July 30 - August 2 2010 (Message 1021690)
Posted 1 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Take a look in http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60895

Removing old aps in my ap.info file got rid of the "http error", but I still get "can't connect to server". No downloads since before the last 3 day outage.
2272) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whiskey's Mini-City News III (Message 1021660)
Posted 1 Aug 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, figured I'd try this and see what it is all about. Here is my little city.
2273) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (36) Server problems (Message 1021444)
Posted 31 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I got http internal server errors then I just have had http service unavailable, so it looks like a network problem again


I got a couple of those errors earlier, but they invariably would re-try in 60 seconds and usually connect on the second, or at worst, third try.

There is a significant ( > 45 seconds ) lag between request and response, though, but that could just be heavy internet traffic generally. The lag only seems to be on the scheduler though, U/L and D/L are flying through.



I see the same lag (1 minute plus) between request and response, but since Friday AM the response has always been "http error" or "can't connect to server". I have received "master file download succeeded", but no download.
2274) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1021430)
Posted 31 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
North east Montana? The name escapes me at the moment.
2275) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1021029)
Posted 31 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey Steve, yah gotta eat those veggies. There is so much beer out there, it will take a loooong time to try it all. You need to be in tip top shape to get through this.

I find a lighter ale goes good with anything a little tart, like a salad with a vinegar based dressing. Light ales are also good with spicy food, like a vegetable curry.

A good lager goes well with fresh veggies, anything with a little snap to it like fresh pesto or something with some onions in it. Also good with a tomato sauce on pasta.

The dark beers are for winter time, with a nice hot vegetable dish like a casserole covered in cheese. Well, OK, be careful with the cheese. But you get my drift.
2276) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1020988)
Posted 30 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why do the contents of my pint bottle not fit into my pint glass?
(even taking into account the british custom of filling it to the rim)


The pint bottle is probably regulated (declared contents have to meet some minimum quantity), so I suspect your pint glass is a "nominal" pint. "Nominal" is marketeering for "it isn't really".
2277) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1020986)
Posted 30 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hang in there Steve, we'll pick up the slack for you.

Hey - what are friends for?
2278) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1020925)
Posted 30 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think this qualifies as a Goofy idea, here.




I have to agree. Flying cars are usually bad cars and bad aircraft, and this one seems to be no difference. When I first saw this I said the back wheels were totally in the wrong place, this will need miles and miles of runway. (Based on 35 years flight testing aircraft and helicopters, BTW). A recent press release from the company confirms that the thing needs a 2.5 kilometer runway, or nearly 10 times what a similar weight and power conventional aircraft uses. This is, at best, a gimmick.
2279) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe Closed 082410. (Message 1020851)
Posted 30 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
good morning everybody!!

Welcome to here...wherever we are!

Are you sure we can get here from there?

Not completely sure...despite our best efforts we may end up somewhere else.


But no matter where you go, once you get there - there you are.
2280) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1020838)
Posted 30 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Steve? we can not keep these cold much longer...


Then we should drink them. Does anybody know how to attach a beer to a post or an e-mail?
2281) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe Closed 082410. (Message 1020767)
Posted 30 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm waiting for a sign to put the kettle on so I can make Magenta a cup of tea.


2282) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1020699)
Posted 29 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The Canadian long weekend starts a day early, with a Barley Days Loyalist Lager. Only available from the brewery on the western edge of Picton, Ontario. A lovely full flavoured lager, great on a hot day. This was my last one, have to head down that way again soon.

2283) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1020698)
Posted 29 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I swore I wouldn't get involved further in this thread, but ...

That looks a lot like a bridge in a little ghost town just down river from Drumheller, Alberta. From memory it was a lot greener when I was last there, but that was 20+ years ago.
2284) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1020655)
Posted 29 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
*Processed on machinery that also process weasel and owl.


Ah, you must have worked in the kitchen at this place.
2285) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1020652)
Posted 29 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Zoology, 5, do sit down. That's a beaver!

ok I looked up what a woodchuck actually is, I always associated a woodpecker...
I'm afraid that still is a beaver.

Yeah... but his name is Chuck.


Yeah, it wood be, woodn't it?

Where I come from, woodchucks are known as ground hogs.

And down here they're known as "the other white meat".


I find them a little greasy, but at least you can get a good meal off one. Not like squirrels...

"Nothin' says lovin' like varmint in the oven."


2286) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1020646)
Posted 29 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Zoology, 5, do sit down. That's a beaver!

ok I looked up what a woodchuck actually is, I always associated a woodpecker...
I'm afraid that still is a beaver.

Yeah... but his name is Chuck.


Yeah, it wood be, woodn't it?

Where I come from, woodchucks are known as ground hogs.

And down here they're known as "the other white meat".


I find them a little greasy, but at least you can get a good meal off one. Not like squirrels...
2287) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #122 - The HEAT is ON! (Message 1020645)
Posted 29 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What's an Eskimo's favourite game?


Blanket toss, known as Nalukauq, is popular. So is their version of tic-tac-toe, called arctic hunt. They are also fond of Nusutinquatut, which is sort of a cross between tug of war and arm wrestling, only you use leather straps looped around your opponent's ear.

And by the way, Eskimo is kind of out of date. They prefer to be called Inuit now.
2288) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1020641)
Posted 29 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Zoology, 5, do sit down. That's a beaver!

ok I looked up what a woodchuck actually is, I always associated a woodpecker...
I'm afraid that still is a beaver.

Yeah... but his name is Chuck.


Yeah, it wood be, woodn't it?

Where I come from, woodchucks are known as ground hogs.
2289) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #122 - The HEAT is ON! (Message 1020610)
Posted 29 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Bound to win. Anybody got a joint?
2290) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #122 - The HEAT is ON! (Message 1020584)
Posted 29 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Popping my joints, just in case...
2291) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1020480)
Posted 28 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I am going to go with Calgary.

Centre street bridge?


We have a weiner!

Please, take it away John.

If you ever find yourself crossing the bridge into downtown, hang a left on 3rd Avenue and look for the Silver Dragon. Current owner has been running the place since the 1960s, and the dim sum is fantastic.
2292) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Seti whining thread......... (Message 1020421)
Posted 28 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
mmb ... grd ... rasj ... mfp
2293) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe Closed 082410. (Message 1020397)
Posted 28 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I can neither deny nor confirm the existance of fried chicken.
2294) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1020364)
Posted 28 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Skildude, to be fair Edmonton is one of the cities that makes that claim, but I think they are wrong.

Chris, Victoria isn't on the prairies.
2295) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1020353)
Posted 28 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Next hint - that is the oldest Chinatown in the Canadian prairies behind the bridge.
2296) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe Closed 082410. (Message 1020347)
Posted 28 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Oh yes, but so much vital information exchanged so efficently!


And whilst keeping ones eyes at head height !! :-)))))


My wife worked a few years back helping recent immigrants prepare for job interviews, including an introduction to Canadian customs and manners. She was asked how to conduct a conversation in the men's room with a work colleague, and she brought the question home to me. The only thing I could come up with was "maintain eye contact".
2297) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 1020341)
Posted 28 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What else where you going to serve with it? I think some type of fish might go good with it.

The night I served kale it was as a side-dish to boneless chicken thighs that I first marinaded and then roasted in a mix of olive oil, lemon juice, cracked black pepper, rosemary (minced) and some of the savory (minced) that you gave me. (The savory you brought me from your yard is now growing just fine in mine - thanks!!!) Since dinner was reasonably healthy that night, I thought Eric deserved dessert so I made him chocolate fondue and served it with fresh strawberries, blackberries, pineapple and apricots.


You spoil the man Angela.
2298) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe Closed 082410. (Message 1020339)
Posted 28 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That always reminds me of the following conversation my husband witnessed:

Somebody asking in a loud voice towards one of the closed cabins :
'Is that you in there?'
Answer:
'No, it's me!'

The art of male conversation in a nutshell ;)


Oh yes, but so much vital information exchanged so efficently!
2299) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1020338)
Posted 28 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why do "caregiver" and "caretaker" mean the same gosh darn thing?


In the UK there is a difference. A caretaker is a janitor. A caregiver is a social worker or other official carer of an invalid person.


Us older people in Canuckistan tend to use the words as Chris described (although a caretaker could also be a gardener), but the kids are mixing them up. I blame cable TV, with all those funny foreign stations like El Jazira and Fox.
2300) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe Closed 082410. (Message 1020233)
Posted 28 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I can neither confirm or deny the existance of secrets.
2301) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1020232)
Posted 28 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Don't know why, I just can't stand the taste of beer out of a can.


I agree. Bottles are OK for drinking outside, it makes it easier to keep the bugs out (use your thumb). Otherwise, I prefer a glass.
2302) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Callahan's Crosstime Saloon (Message 1020198)
Posted 27 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Where is everybody?
2303) Message boards : Number crunching : Stats for SETI@home only (Message 1020197)
Posted 27 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just wondering, for you stat guys...Is there anyway to know what percentage of work is done by the top 500 hosts?


A rough estimate: about 20% of the work is done by the top 500 users (not hosts).

Thats funny, we do a huge percentage of the work yet are villainized by so many...


So the other users (who do 80 % of the work) should be 4 times as important as the big guys?

Just joking, sort of.
2304) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (36) Server problems (Message 1020196)
Posted 27 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OMG, We are actually agreeing....



Well, since the two of us represent just over 0.001214 % of the active users, I hope that the Berkeley Gang gives us the attention we deserve.
2305) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (36) Server problems (Message 1020133)
Posted 27 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I ran out of all S@H work yesterday, and have not been able to download any new work since, despite constant requests for new tasks. Just get "HTTP error" and "can't connect to server". Looking at all the less than full capacity time on the Cricket graphs for the last few days, I have to wonder what the real benefit is in limiting downloads right after the outage.
2306) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1020112)
Posted 27 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
green please. but only in Berlin.


I remember having green beer in a pub in Munich, I think it was named Gunther O'Mallys (or something like that).
2307) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #122 - The HEAT is ON! (Message 1020110)
Posted 27 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, I'll do a deal with you. Solve this one, and include one of these, and you are good to go.

Three people check into a hotel. They pay £30 to the manager and go to their room. The manager suddenly remembers that the room rate is £25 and gives £5 to the bellboy to return to the people. On the way to the room the bellboy reasons that £5 would be difficult to share among three people so he pockets £2 and gives £1 to each person. Now each person paid £10 and got back £1. So they paid £9 each, totalling £27. The bellboy has £2, totalling £29. Where is the missing £1?




The correct question to ask is - who has the money? The hotel has 25, the three guests have a total of 3, the bellboy has 2. 25+3+2=30. Nothing missing. The fault lies in assuming the 27 paid by the guests does not include the 2 in the bellboy's pocket. The guests did, in fact pay 27: 25 to the hotel and 2 to the bellboy. They have another 3 in their pockets. Again 25+2+3=30.

As for "owing you one", put it on my tab please.
2308) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1020064)
Posted 27 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The can or the beer ?


At first, the beer. After a half dozen or so, the beer AND the can.
2309) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 1020063)
Posted 27 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Anybody a kale fan out there? How do you prepare it?


My wife's family, being Dutch, are big kale fans. I've had it just about every way you can think of: steamed, baked, fried, etc. IMHO the results ranged from barely tolerable to god-awful.
2310) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1020061)
Posted 27 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not Ontario. Soft^spirit is right on about dim sum. A wonderful way to waste a few hours and gain a few pounds.
2311) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1019924)
Posted 27 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In Canada?


Of course.
2312) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1019894)
Posted 27 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Add my best wishes for Byron.

Anyway, here is another pix. Half points for the town, but need the name of the bridge for full points.

First hint: possibly the best dim sum on the planet is found at about the centre of this picture.

2313) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The "Something good Happened" Thread (Message 1019889)
Posted 27 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A little slower than usual, but WAY better than dial up!



PS - anybody understand why they pick a server 50 miles away, when my ISP has a room full of servers about 3 miles away?
2314) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CAR RACING 2010 !!! (Message 1019826)
Posted 26 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I agree, $100,000 isn't a fine to Ferrari, it is just a fee.
2315) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The "Something good Happened" Thread (Message 1019821)
Posted 26 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My DSL just got fixed!
2316) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1019820)
Posted 26 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Personally, I only drink beers that are yellow, brown, black, red or green.
2317) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Callahan's Crosstime Saloon (Message 1019818)
Posted 26 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nice idea for a thread. May I suggest that I may be your first Alien? I had to register as one every six months back in my undergrad daze.

My dog, Ralph von Wow Wow, says that is a really dumb idea. What does he know? He's a dog.
2318) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1019780)
Posted 26 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry for the delay everyone. My DSL died yesterday afternoon. The ISP blames Bell, Bell blames the ISP, and I'm stuck using dial-up unitl they sort it out.

Byron, you are correct. Peter's comment wasn't really that big a clue, Canadians do drink tea in places other than Victoria ;).

Over to you Byron.
2319) Message boards : Number crunching : Stats for SETI@home only (Message 1019509)
Posted 25 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I don't think users reporting on a given day tells us much. Many of the smaller crunchers may only get credit every second or third day, at random. And don't we all get zero credit three days a week now?
2320) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1019507)
Posted 25 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Looks like Sevilla, Spain and their "Feria de Abril" Fair.


Wrong continent.
2321) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1019467)
Posted 25 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
On a roll here folks.

2322) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1019360)
Posted 25 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Cabot Tower in Newfoundland, where Marconi received the first trans-atlantic radio signal in 1901.
2323) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1019344)
Posted 25 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Correct! Take it away Peter.
2324) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1019303)
Posted 24 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, this clue is a dead give away.

Remember when I said I drove past soft^spirit's photo twice a day for ten years? I took this bridge to get there.
2325) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1019291)
Posted 24 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, back form the road trip, chores done, first beer popped. Didn't make it all the way to the microbreweries, but stopped in at a well stocked beer store on the way home, to try some old favorites and a couple of new ones.

First the bad news. A locally produced Green Apple Pilesner is pretty disgusting. Way too sweet, tastes like carbonated apple juice. Even my wife, who loves Strongbows, didn't like this one.



And now the good news. Found some 10W30, it is hard to get without going direct to the brewery. And it was as good as ever. Just a little light in flavour for a dark ale, but oh so smooth. Relatively low gas, for a North American product. Beautiful roasted malt nose and after taste. Still a strong favorite.

2326) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1019240)
Posted 24 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
b) Why do drive-up ATM machines have braille on the keypads?


For the same reason that computer keyboards have raised marks on the F and J keys. Also all phones have the same raised marks on the 5 key.

It's to help blind people dummy !! ;-)

I think you missed the drive-up ATM machine part.

But there've been whole films about blind people driving... ;-)

Gruß,
Gundolf


I encounter them regularly on the freeway in Toronto. At least, that is the only reason I can think why anybody would drive like that.
2327) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1019238)
Posted 24 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can I move to Canada and become a customs agent? I would not mind "destroying" some of those..


There was a mind boggling documentary on CBC television a few years back, about what they do with confiscated booze from the border these days. It appears that booze is considered a "toxic waste", and they can't dump it down the sink anymore, or send it to landfills. They showed a shot of a top-secret warehouse "somewhere in Canada". Picture the warehouse scene at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark", but all the boxes say Seagrams, Jack Daniels, Molsons, etc. Enough to make a grown man cry.

And the reporter thought of the obvious question, but the booze companies won't let the government sell this stuff. Apparently at least some of the labels and packaging are counterfeit.
2328) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1019233)
Posted 24 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Soft^Spirit - no to bridge and side, but you are on the right track.

Peter - you may have the wrong end, 5 km to the right of where this photo was taken means you were born in an orchard.
2329) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1019231)
Posted 24 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Single malts.

http://www.singlemaltsdirect.com/magento/


You're just toying with me Chris. Did you read the fine print on this web site?

PLEASE BE AWARE: Customers ordering from Canada do so at their own risk. Canadian Customs may seize the goods or consignment and they may be destroyed.
2330) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1019214)
Posted 24 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, time for a hint. The bridge is that high to let the salt water freighters pass underneath, but it is hundreds of miles from salt water.
2331) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 15 (Message 1019212)
Posted 24 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My son showed me this video from youtube. I laughed out loud but secretly wanted to go and jump off our roof to make it stop...


Watch at your own risk.



And that pretty much sums up everything that is wrong with the Internet.
2332) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1019210)
Posted 24 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Scarecrow, I prefer Jack to Jim.


If I end up with that kind of drink I prefer single malts...


So do I, but my banker says wait until Jack or CR is on sale.
2333) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1019156)
Posted 24 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
next question: What's the difference between a duck?


A bicycle, because a vest has no sleeves.
2334) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1019155)
Posted 24 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Quick post before hitting the road. Dune, 36 years for us this spring. James, I like Red stripe, but it is a little on the light side. Sort of American (I mean that in a good way). Scarecrow, I prefer Jack to Jim.
2335) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1018965)
Posted 24 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Like you Bill, Eric and I are going to the Farmer's Market tomorrow as well!!!


Well, if you are in Stratford or St. Marys, I'll see you there. I'm the tall bored guy, looking for beer.
2336) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1018962)
Posted 24 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
See you when you get back from the farmer's markets!


So, how long have you been married?
2337) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1018960)
Posted 24 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Call me old fashioned, but when I see stuff floating in my beer I want to demand clean glasses.

Just finished off a bottle (with help) from a new Prince Edward winery, Hillier Creek Estates. Run by the son of one of dad's old bosses. Their Pinot Noir is a full flavoured red, with that slight mineral under-flavour you get in Prince Edward. Worth watching, this new place.

Off to bed early, then up early for a road trip north of here tomorrow. My wife thinks we are going to farmer's markets, I think we are going to microbreweries. Time will tell...
2338) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1018891)
Posted 23 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This might be too easy, so: what is the full name, and what end are we looking from?

2339) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1018842)
Posted 23 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Drove by it twice a day for 10 years, to and from work. Have to run just now, will dig up a photo later tonight.
2340) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1018837)
Posted 23 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Minolta Tower in Niagra Falls, on the Canadian side. (May have changed names since I was last there.)


Original Name?


How can I forget this? Had to Google to discover that it was the Seagrams Tower.
2341) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update IV - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1018815)
Posted 23 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
hot and greasy yumm


The food, or the raccoons?
2342) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 3 (Message 1018814)
Posted 23 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Minolta Tower in Niagra Falls, on the Canadian side. (May have changed names since I was last there.)
2343) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1018710)
Posted 23 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Losing on a friday ... "service engine soon"


You don't really believe those things, do you? A real man would put a little duct tape on it, and drive on.
2344) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1018701)
Posted 23 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning on a hot and muggy Friday here in Paradise North.
2345) Message boards : Number crunching : Which temp. (Message 1018696)
Posted 23 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Johan, are these single readings of temperature? The CPU temp can go up or down at least 5 to 10 degrees very quickly when the work load changes. Try using the "chart" in Speedfan, and let it run for at least 15 minutes. This will show you a range of CPU temperatures.
2346) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1018675)
Posted 23 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Walkies (said in a shrill voice)?


What ever happened to that lady? Used to love her show.
2347) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1018644)
Posted 23 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another double post, sorry. Has anybody else found the Forum editor window really really slow lately?
2348) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1018643)
Posted 23 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Muffins can be sneaky that way.
2349) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1018475)
Posted 22 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Dune, my kids played Sim2 for a few years on a computer with WAY worse specs than that.

Oops - just noticed that is YOUR computer, not the second hand one.
2350) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1018437)
Posted 22 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning on a jacket potatoe


Jacket potato is a new term to me. Please explain.


oops?

I think the british might be able to explain better.

You take a really large potatoe and bake it in the oven until nicely cooked and starting to brown on the outside. Slice in half and eat with filling of choice.
usual choices are baked beans + cheese, tuna melt, prawnmayo...

standard english pub food ;)

Don't ask me why it's called a jacket potatoe, I'm foreign, I just eat 'em.


ahh in the USA it would be called "Potato Skins". Bacon and Cheddar, other toppings.. and usually quartered... but definately same idea.


Around here "skins" have most of the white fluffy stuff removed, to make room for more toppings. You can also get just a regular baked tater, with toppings, usually just called a baked potato. Good with a cold draft.

Now I'm really hungry. And thirsty.
2351) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1018401)
Posted 22 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Aha. The pubs here have the same thing, just not with that name.

Now I'm hungry.
2352) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lost Mixology (Message 1018398)
Posted 22 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I remember using almaden, and some other "jug" wines for the purpose.


Ah Almaden. That brings back memories of a misspent youth. When I arrived back in Canada after 4 years hard time at a SoCal university, I was amazed to find that in Alberta Almaden was A Fancy Imported Wine.

Anybody else remember a California wine in the early 70s called Zapple? It was apple wine, with (allegedly) cinnamon in it. I discovered it because it was always on sale.
2353) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1018396)
Posted 22 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning on a jacket potatoe


Jacket potato is a new term to me. Please explain.
2354) Message boards : Number crunching : Information on 'Weekly Outage' (Message 1018394)
Posted 22 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just select another BOINC project until the the problems are solved.


You should be aware that adding other projects may introduce new issues. Some projects have a range of completion times, and a single WU download can introduce a large demand from one project, slowing or preventing downloads from other projects. This will all sort itself out eventually, but it can take several weeks.

For example, a few weeks ago WCG requested and received more WU than usual on one of my machines. I have no idea why. As a result, WCG went into high priority mode on both CPUs for a few days, and I missed getting enough S@H downloads for the first 3 day outage. All my CPUs were busy through the outage, just not with the expected split between projects.
2355) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1018268)
Posted 22 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Going back to the question of Brits and warm beer:

I too believed for years that line about Brit beer has to be consumed at "room temperature". However, after spending a few nights at cheap hotels near Heathrow in between flights, I now know that what a Brit calls "room temperature" is about the same as the inside of my fridge. Problem solved.
2356) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Goofy Questions thread...... (Message 1018192)
Posted 21 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If it's beer then you are moraly obligated to suck it down before it gets warm. If it is anything else, then it doesn't matter.

Steve


Right on!
2357) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1018166)
Posted 21 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
... no bits left over ...
That can all lead up to a good win.


No bits left over is always good. Too bad about the win though. It's mine!
2358) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1018130)
Posted 21 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This thread is getting more interesting every minute! :)

Steve

Might have to move next door to Callahan's Crosstime Saloon


I loved those books. Allways a fun read.


Me too.
2359) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1018109)
Posted 21 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for a quick morning win, then off to the store to buy microwave popcorn.

Several years ago I had some small plastic dishes that were supposed to do poached eggs in the microwave, but they never worked well. Over done at the edges, still raw in the middle.
2360) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1018106)
Posted 21 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Put it on my tab.

Thank you Bill! Now if only I could find a table to dance on and a lampshade to wear upon my head...

Table dances. Now there is a way to light up a thread!


Perhaps worthy of a thread of its own?
2361) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1018043)
Posted 21 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


They told me my call was really important, and they would be right with me. How long have you been here?
2362) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 15 (Message 1017909)
Posted 20 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Fiendishly clever, those pranksters. Just goes to show you have to listen to the customer, no matter how big an idiot they first appear to be.
2363) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1017908)
Posted 20 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Who will buy a lady one of these?


Put it on my tab.
2364) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (36) Server problems (Message 1017838)
Posted 20 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The internet connection is shared. The may have wanted to keep the load down during the day so others could use it.


What!?!?!? Share with normal people who haven't spent their life savings on graphics cards and umpteen core processors!?!?!? I am insulted. I may just quit.
2365) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1017837)
Posted 20 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Having inhaled the Moosehead some time ago, I am now relaxing with a nice Australian Shiraz/Viogner blend, Wakefield 2008. Along with some 5 year old cheddar purchased a few weekends ago in a small town farmers market in eastern Ontario. Heaven must be much like this.
2366) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 2 (Message 1017814)
Posted 20 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
England is as far north as Canada.


Please forgive the off topic post, but it is part of my life long mission to educate the world about Canada.

The most southerly parts of Canada are in line with the northern parts of California or Italy. The most northerly parts are the most northerly land in the world. The vast majority of Canada is way north of England.
2367) Message boards : Number crunching : 7/17/2010 schedule "Limit" (Message 1017782)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
pass, thank you.


Hey, even This Idiot did it with the Lunatics package.
2368) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 15 (Message 1017780)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

LOL! Now that's funny! I'm sure your son didn't find it too funny at the time but..


It is just a summer job, and he did see the humour in it. He is counting the days till classes start again.

Another classic call was from an irate customer wanting to know why there was all this pay-per-view porn on their bill. My son was able to tell him the exact times of each billing, and the customer got really upset. "I wasn't even home then! There was nobody home except ...", long pause, then customer comes back much more quietly "... my 12 year old daughter.".
2369) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1017777)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good evening all! I have settled down at my cruncher, "Piggy", and I am waiting till the download limits are released so I can try to fumble through the bandwidth in an attempt to reload for the impending outage. I may as well belly up to the bar at the international pub, and have a few cold beers. Anyone care to join me?

Steve


Just back from a good long walk, first in several days due to the heat. A Moosehead would go great right about now.
2370) Message boards : Number crunching : What can we do to minimize outage impact? (Message 1017776)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What I'd like is to be able to override my network preference with a manual Update from BOINC. I'll see if that works.


If you are going to be doing manual updates anyway, leave network activity off during the outage, except while you do the manual updates.
2371) Message boards : News : Arecibo Observatory Repair Status (Message 1017775)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Salam Chief it's momo19

I have a green star, but how to have the black head which sneeze???
thanks


Create a user profile. On the S@H home page, go to "Account", find the Community section on the top right, and pick View Profile.
2372) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1017670)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for a win!

Unfortunately that seems to be a temporary condition.

Very short indeed.

Yes indeed, short indeed.

Yes indeed.

Indeed, yes.

Indeed

Indubitably, Boo Boo.

unquestionably


Undeniably
2373) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1017663)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for a win!

Unfortunately that seems to be a temporary condition.

Very short indeed.

Yes indeed, short indeed.

Yes indeed.

Indeed, yes.

Indeed


Indubitably, Boo Boo.
2374) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1017659)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for a win!

Unfortunately that seems to be a temporary condition.

Very short indeed.

Yes indeed, short indeed.

Yes indeed.


Indeed, yes.
2375) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1017640)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That Dune is a real live wire sometimes.
2376) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Teenagers (Message 1017636)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Clearly you are doing something right Es99. You may never know what it is though. (just my personal experience.)
2377) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1017580)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning, after my third and final cuppa.
2378) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 15 (Message 1017561)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My son is working this summer at a call centre, tech support for a Cable TV company. Last night he got The Classic Call. You hear about these, and think they are made up, but no...

Customer calls up, complains that he isn't getting any image on his TV. No lights on the cable box. My son starts him through the standard troubleshooting question list (what is plugged into what, etc.). On about item 3 the guy says "I can't see that plug". When asked why, the customer says "all the lights went out about 20 minutes ago, right about the time the cable died".

After a brief pause, my son told him to call the power company. The customer got indignant, and hung up.
2379) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas is coming! (Message 1017546)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Gee thanks.
2380) Message boards : Number crunching : What can we do to minimize outage impact? (Message 1017544)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just suggestion/comment thinking. One possible solution to this could be to ask BIONC on their next/future release to add some sort of network suspenion routine to the suspend project routine button.

Michael


This is already there in current release of BOINC, under the "Activity" tab.
2381) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 15 (Message 1017456)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Jeez, a two hour nap turned into a five hour nap. There goes most of my day.. :/


sounds like a very productive day to me.
2382) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Uli! (Message 1017455)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Celibrating without any Alcohol today, so I guess I can't post in the Beer thread.


The rules include people who like beer. And by the way, happy birthday.
2383) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 2 (Message 1017453)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The library of Parliament in Ottawa Canada.


John is the first offical winner, take it away John.

I got a private message earlier from someone who identified it correctly, but didn't want to actually win until he got all those overdue fines cleared up...
2384) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1017449)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I sent off a message to Michelob asking if they will ever bring it back.


I suspect they just re-labeled it...

DunkelWeisse



Traurig nicht, fraulein. A Dunkel Weisse is just a slightly darker Weisse beer. More malt, but it is not roasted. The Michelob Dark I grew to love in small bars in California and later in eastern Washington state uses (used?) a dark roasted malt, plus top fermenting, to give a combination of a British style dark flavour without the bitterness of ale, because of the German style top fermenting. (Invented by the Czechs, but don't try to tell this to a German!)

Done with Hiram, just popped the first (and probably last) Moosehead of the evening.
2385) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1017445)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I sent off a message to Michelob asking if they will ever bring it back.


Let me know if you need a petition signed, or anything.

On to Hiram Walker's finest, beer to follow.
2386) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 2 (Message 1017441)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I was first there when I was about six, and the overall creepiness of being underneath all the rock has really stuck with me. But I'm much better now (takes a deep slug of Hiram Walker's finest).

Maybe this one will take a little longer. Whne I win the lottery, the new wing on my house will look just like this.

2387) Message boards : Number crunching : What can we do to minimize outage impact? (Message 1017439)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Maybe my concern is misplaced, but it bothers me that during the whole outage my computer is sending useless requests to u/l my completed WUs. I tried Suspending the project, but since there were results already present, all that did is prevent more requests for d/l WUs.

I would have posted this in Outage Observations/Comments except I have no suggestions here, only a question. I didn't want to muddy that thread.



I have had similar thoughts. After some thinking and discussion, I realize that these extra requests only have an impact on your computer, and not on the project as a whole. If you notice your computer slowing down or having problems with Internet speeds, go to the "Activity" tab in BONIC Manager, and select "Network activity suspended" until the outage is over. Unfortunately, this affects any other BOINC projects as well.

If your computer is working fine, just shrug your shoulders, say "oh well" and carry on.
2388) Message boards : Number crunching : 7/17/2010 schedule "Limit" (Message 1017432)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

why do i get no task available when there are "Results ready to send 298,288"?


There are three possible answers:

1. The info on the server status page may be several minutes old, and a lot of results could have been sent in that time

2. I think "no tasks available" is a standard answer when you can't complete a connection to the servers - you will get this when all the server connections are already in use for example, or if there are other connection problems

3. It is an evil plot by the Masters of S@H
2389) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 2 (Message 1017424)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Carlsbad Caverns?

OK, what is it?


The first underground gift shop I ever saw. I've seen a few more since, but they're all kind of creepy.
2390) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1017422)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

I haven't seen Moosehead for a long time. I really liked them.

Steve


The story of Moosehead here in Ontario is a precautionary tale for beer lovers everywhere. BEWARE SOCIALISM! BEER AND GOVERNMENTS DON'T MIX!

Way back in the day, the Ontario government (like most Canadian provincial governments) thought booze was evil, but loved the tax revenue. To keep things under control, retail beer sales were only possible through a legalized monopoly called The Beer Store. It was originally founded and funded by the Big Four breweries in Ontario - Molsen, Labatts, Carling and O'Keefes. The Government and the Big Four made sure things ran the way they wanted. THEY ONLY SOLD PRODUCTS FROM THOSE FOUR COMPANIES! When I first moved to Ontario in 1980, I had to drive to New York to buy Moosehead (its only made in New Brunswick, a few provinces to the right.)

Ironically, the Beer Store still exists today. Several long and heated court actions have resulted in them carrying beer from all over, although they regularly run out of anything but the Big Three (Carling and O'Keefe merged). The really ironic part is who owns the Big Three, and thus The Beer Store, today - Belgians, Japanese, and Brazilians.

BEER LOVERS OF THE WORLD - BEWARE!

Sorry, I yell a lot when I drink.

BTW, The Beer Store is really their name, today. A clever ploy to hide the evil government plot behind it all. They started out as Brewers Retail Inc.
2391) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 2 (Message 1017416)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Carlsbad Caverns?
2392) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1017411)
Posted 19 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I loved Michelob Classic Dark and Henry Weinhards Classic Dark.

I cannot get them any more as Michelob stopped making theirs...


I nearly cried when I couldn't get Michelob Dark anymore. What has gone wrong with your country?

If you can find it, a very good, very local, dark is 10W30, from Neustadt. That our Neustadt, not the old Neustadt. Nouveauneustadt, as it were.

Starting the evening on a nice spanish red to go with dinner, probably move to rye (Walkers, of course) with a Moosehead chaser, and Count Basie played very loud, as the evening unfolds. Here's mud in your eye gang!
2393) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1017247)
Posted 18 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My biggest problem with a night of world-class drinking is going home at 2 with a "10" and waking up at 10 with a "2".


Or discovering that the "10" was just a "4" carrying a six-pack.
2394) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1017232)
Posted 18 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
After 15 or 16 beers, how can you tell if the servers are up or down?


After 15 or 16 beers who cares ? ;-))



Good point. Worthy of further investigation this evening.
2395) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1017228)
Posted 18 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
After 15 or 16 beers, how can you tell if the servers are up or down?
2396) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer drinkers thread. (Message 1016962)
Posted 18 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Great idea Steve. I'm normally a beer guy, but tonight finds me finishing off a bottle of KVW Chenin Blanc that my wife used in cooking tonight. Cheers!
2397) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1016952)
Posted 18 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
8-{)>

(glasses, big nose, moustache, and a beard)

What no cigar?


8-{/)>-----

Smoking a cigar, while wearing a tie.
2398) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1016922)
Posted 17 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
8-{)>

(glasses, big nose, moustache, and a beard)
2399) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 2 (Message 1016861)
Posted 17 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is this the maze where the bull thingy was kept? Minatour? Spelling may be wrong.
2400) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1016851)
Posted 17 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And the lucky number is 301! I win!

Blurf, it is obviously all Bill Gate's fault.
2401) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1016763)
Posted 17 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Are we still allowed to fly that? Isn't it an insult against the minorities or something politically correct like that?

I remember the days when we were allowed to be proud to be British ;)


I think you exported that. Man United and Celtics played an exhibition game in Toronto this week, sold out at $90 to $120 a ticket. Apparently that is more than you would pay in the UK?

And Byron, lets unite for a win and show them what REALLY happened to their Empire. Any Aussies or Kiwis wish to join in?
2402) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1016739)
Posted 17 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry Yer all Out...

Sorry, but did any one notice I'm winning ?


It was a brief, but bold try my friend.


But all for naught. I win.
2403) Message boards : Number crunching : more delay today it seems.... (Message 1016734)
Posted 17 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Oh Richard, your post brings back memories of my undergrad computing on an IBM 370 in the early 1970s. After hours was the way to go, and your whole life style shifted to match. I always stood in line with everybody else to hand in my card deck, then stood in line to pick it up, along with the output with the dreaded syntax errors.

I also learned early on to use the automatic card numbering feature on our card punches. That could save the day when you dropped the deck while standing in line.
2404) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 3 (Message 1016721)
Posted 17 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry I missed last night, but I can't weight to see what Angela picks next. Some heavy topic, no doubt. I'm massing my puns now, in preparation.
2405) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How do I create a Boinc Stats graphic (Message 1016514)
Posted 17 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Howdy Michael. I assume you are already signed up at BOINCstats? It is free.

When you log onto BOINCstats you see several URLs listed, just above the first graph. The one labelled "URL for user signature graphic" produces the graphic you see in my posts.

Take this URL over to your "Your Account" page at the S@H home page. Click on "community preferences", near the middle of the page. Enter the URL in the box labelled "Signature for message board posts". You need a BBCode tag in front and behind the URL, there is help on the page if you are not familiar with this.

While you are on this page, you can add your avatar as well. You can upload a picture from your computer, or find one on the free avatars linked to from this page.

When you are all through there, click "update" at the bottom, and away you go.

Edit - I see you figured out the Avatar faster than I could post.
2406) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1016455)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This thread is totally putting me in the mood for HALLOWEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now that's a SCARY thought!

(Oh wait. Is this the Friday night pun thread?)
2407) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1016372)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Still my win *cackle*


I've beat you now, my pretty. And your dog too!
2408) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1016367)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
No. THIS is the winning post.
2409) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1016350)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Pretty much why I don't look there much anymore......


Yeah I know, but just about every day I find a post there that lets me say "I'm old and cranky and ignorant and opinionated and stuck in the last century ... but I'm not as bad as THIS guy."

So, NOW do I win? Or what?
2410) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1016340)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Holocaust survivor's dance sparks controversy

So I Google this man's name and all I come up with is an older gentleman celebrating life!

Anyone else have this problem?


Anybody who spends much time over in Number Crunching would realize that one man's Interesting Occurance is another man's Mortal Insult.
2411) Message boards : Number crunching : more delay today it seems.... (Message 1016339)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Still, I'm relieved to see we haven't had any "this is insulting to us users and I'm gonna quit" posts.


This is insulting to us users and I'm gonna quit! :-)


I am insulted that you are insulted. I'm gonna stay right here, just to annoy you. ;)
2412) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Do your kids Google? (Message 1016302)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Back when I was a kid we allways had a dictionary and a set of encylopedias in the house. I still feel that is a resource to be used. I do use wikipedia but I dont fully trust the anyone can modify a entry. Just cause its on the internet dont make it true. And yes I know that applies to the print version also.


I fully agree with about Wikipedia. One of my hobbies is historical research for some author friends, sorting through old government records and other sources. Within my little field of speciality, I think the majority of what is in Wiki is at least misleading, if not outright wrong. I use Wiki to find new keywords to search, but I simply refuse to believe anything there without independent corroboration.

Back on topic - I think this is exactly the kind of stuff your kids can learn from Googling with you.
2413) Message boards : Number crunching : more delay today it seems.... (Message 1016293)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Even those that understand that way things work can't keep up with it.


Welcome to the 21st Century.

Still, I'm relieved to see we haven't had any "this is insulting to us users and I'm gonna quit" posts.
2414) Message boards : Number crunching : How SETI helped my job. (Message 1016288)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Admittedly a bit off-topic, but I bet if NEZ sees the title of this thread he's just itching to voice a slightly different opinion. ;)


A bit cold, but very funny.
2415) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Do your kids Google? (Message 1016286)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well of course they don't just want information, they want company and attention too. It would be very unkind just to tell them to go away and look it up, and many families have the problem of their children spending far too much time only on the computer. Rather than just telling them the answer, however, you can teach them how to find things for themselves, how to start and refine a query for example, how to recognise useful links to follow, how to use Wikipedia and online dictionaries and so on.



Good stuff Michael. I would recommend you Google with your kids, and teach them how to be critical of the information they find.
2416) Message boards : Number crunching : Why did they limit dl's at all? (Message 1016173)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think the sandwich metaphors help explain some of the angst seen on the Forums recently. It may not describe the computing problem, but it does help understand the human response to the situation.

My lower brain's response to the Sandwich Scenario discussed above would be to bash in Hungry Joe's head, and steal his sandwiches.
2417) Message boards : Number crunching : How dry I am............... (Message 1016172)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I just load my queue and crunch whatever comes down the pipe. I dont care if they are VLARs or not. I'm in it for the science, not the credit.


I have seen a few comments like this, and they don't really make sense. Because GPUs are so inefficient at computing VLAR WUs, then by letting them be crunched by GPUs, one is in fact reducing the amount of science they are doing for a given amount of computing power.


For a lot of people, myself included,it is not just about science done per unit of CPU time, but about science done per unit of my personal time and involvement. I think the typical BOINC user (as distinct from the typical forum poster) is a set-it-and-forget person. We (all of BOINC) get a lot of science done by these people, who don't want to babysit the machines, re-schedule work, etc.

Not saying one type of user is better than the other, just saying there is room for both.
2418) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 15 (Message 1016163)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Amen to that.
2419) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1016057)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Lightning here as well, but with everything soaked by rain fires are not too likely. Maybe an exploding transformer, if we're lucky.

Anyway, I win.
2420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lost Mixology (Message 1016056)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think the original Tiki drink was kava.
2421) Message boards : Cafe SETI : i think the speed of light is max (Message 1016052)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Even if everything we think we know is wrong, I have no problem with that as long as we keep getting closer to reality.

Steve


Reminds me of a great Firesign Theatre Quote. Anybody else remember the Everything You Know is Wrong episode?
2422) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather 2 (Message 1016050)
Posted 16 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Finally, some rain to break the heat. The last two weeks have been hot for us, 30+C, but the real kicker was the 70 to 80 % humidity that went with it. I may go for a stroll in the rain.
2423) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1015908)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It's so hot here that trees are whistling for dogs.
2424) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1015865)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good? Who, What, Where? This post is just plain Evil. ;)



Sure, I'm the Evil Witch, didn't you notice?
When I've got you completely convinced how good I am I can finally do some seriously evil witchcraft. *mad cackling*



And tell me, if you are a witch, do you float?
2425) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1015855)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good Morning to all the Good people in this thread :-)


And good morning to the rest of you as well.

Now do I win?
2426) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Worlds Cup (Message 1015849)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good points Skildude.

I think the hockey officials have a much easier time for calling rough play - 4 sets of eyes on a much smaller playing area. As a result, hockey players know that writhing in fake pain on the ice isn't going to earn them anything (except for scorn from the fans). A soccer player can buy some breathing time for his mates with a bit of play acting, in hockey there are lots of other (more or less legal) ways to bring an end to play.

Still, the hockey players do work with the rules they are given. I have to chuckle every time I see a player checking for blood after a hard hit, and looking so disappointed when they can't find any. (For non hockey fans, drawing blood can turn a two minute penalty for your opponent into a 4 minute penalty, and might convince a ref that an otherwise legitimate hit deserves a penalty.)
2427) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1015843)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For black teas I removed the leaves after 3 minutes. Green teas may take 4 or 5 minutes.

Did I win?

not yet Bill :-)

Now?

Almost :-)


OK then, now, right?
2428) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Worlds Cup (Message 1015841)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I remember some serious sports writers predicting doom and the End Of Hockey As We Know It when the refs started using instant replays. If anything, it has calmed down a lot of the old bad blood that would persist long after a questionable call. Today, when things look tough and the ref heads over to the phone to talk to the replay guys, everybody relaxes and fetches a beer. When the final announcement is made, most people just say"well that's settled", and the game moves on. I think it was huge improvement.

I expect it has made life easier for the officials as well. They can freely admit "I really didn't see it" and then let somebody else get the facts and make the decision.
2429) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1015837)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For black teas I removed the leaves after 3 minutes. Green teas may take 4 or 5 minutes.

Did I win?

not yet Bill :-)


Now?
2430) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1015831)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For black teas I removed the leaves after 3 minutes. Green teas may take 4 or 5 minutes.

Did I win?
2431) Message boards : Technical News : VLAR change (Message 1015828)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Woohoo! Send me your VLARS please.
2432) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1015824)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just a quick win before nuking some left over tea. Perhaps a third cup will finally wake me up.
2433) Message boards : Number crunching : Just for fun: Classic SETI in Action! (Message 1015823)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks for the memories BilBg.

I remember at least two co-workers who signed up for S@H back in the day after noticing the screensaver on my lap top and asking "what the heck is that?".
2434) Message boards : Technical News : VLAR change (Message 1015820)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Of course, this change will mean that we non-GPUers' will suffer, won't it?


Doens't it mean that the VLARs will only go to CPUs? That should mean a larger pool of WUs for us non-GPU crunchers to chase.
2435) Message boards : News : Arecibo Observatory Repair Status (Message 1015819)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Give us a date when we can expect something to work on...


If you read the front page, you will see the project is down until Friday AM (left coast time). There should be work after that.
2436) Message boards : Cafe SETI : i think the speed of light is max (Message 1015733)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Hi Steve, According to some nuts, They insist that the world everything else is no older than 6,014 years(the 4004 BC crowd), But We all know better than some screw balls.


The statement that you mentioned about the world only being that old is one of the most incorrect statements ever made in modern times. The logic for such a statement completely escapes me, yet I realize that many actually believe it.

Steve


It was worked out by a British clergyman, I think in the early 19th century. He drew up a linage chart back to Adam and Eve based on the Bible, assigned an age to everybody, and added it all up. Not defending him or his calcs, just offering a bit of historical trivia.
2437) Message boards : Number crunching : Stats for SETI@home only (Message 1015731)
Posted 15 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
and 2 users with a RAC of over 300,000 posting less than 300,000 together
how the HELL do they have a rac of 300,000 if 2 of them can't do more than that in one day

scarecrow is using the info FROM seti@home

it's ERRORED to start

You CANT trust seti@home's data PERIOD

SO WHERE DOSES THAT LEAVE US


Find a good math book, and look up the definition of average. That is the A in RAC. Then read the definiton of RAC.

And please stop shouting.
2438) Message boards : Cafe SETI : i friggin hate Dell (Message 1015440)
Posted 14 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
They're all the same.

[rant] Any modern company that lasts more than a few months is run by accountants. Techies and people actually interested in meeting customers needs are not involved in major decisions anymore. If you can save 2 cents, and only piss off a few people, its good businees these days.[/rant]
2439) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1015437)
Posted 14 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just a quick win before the Forums go down again.
2440) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (36) Server problems (Message 1015330)
Posted 13 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Anyone else having a hit and miss with connecting to the forums?


Yes.
2441) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1015322)
Posted 13 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Hogwarts starts its ROTC program.
2442) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #121-Return of the Blurf! (Message 1015319)
Posted 13 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning the shortest ever TLPTPW! And congrats to Blurf.
2443) Message boards : Number crunching : Stats for SETI@home only (Message 1015318)
Posted 13 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Scarecrows charts are users NOT wu returned and include those NOT ACTIVE

32.2% of those you include in your 75% do less than 1 Wu per day if any at all
those above 3000 a mere 2.38% of all users return about half of all the wu returned


I'm confused then. The graph title says Daily Credit / RAC group for 12 July. Scarecrow, does this mean the credit earned on 12 July, or the credit earned from day 1 up to 12 July?
2444) Message boards : Number crunching : Stats for SETI@home only (Message 1015311)
Posted 13 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, 75% of the credit comes from users with a RAC less than 3000. 50 % comes from users with a RAC less than 500. When will this long suffering group of loyal users finally get the attention and fame they deserve? Ban GPUs NOW, and divert all resources to the IMPORTANT people!

I hope you realize I'm joking. Sort of.
2445) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #120 (The Race Is On!) (Message 1015222)
Posted 13 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But not the right time for a win.
2446) Message boards : Number crunching : Stats for SETI@home only (Message 1015221)
Posted 13 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If you're using 20+ machines, for that RAC, maybe you should consider getting more up-to-date stuff, thats also cheaper to run. Merely an observation. But then, I'm not running the two PCs that I'm using, 24/7 or, whining.



Careful Iona. He's very touchy.
2447) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #120 (The Race Is On!) (Message 1015199)
Posted 13 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So Angela, is that your bar? I can see why you sometimes talk to raccoons.

PS - I win.
2448) Message boards : Number crunching : estimates of Wu STILL way off (Message 1015196)
Posted 12 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For what it is worth - my estimated times are currently about 10% to 20% longer than actual. when I first installed the optimized aps about a year ago, they were way over, 2 or 3 times actual times. It took several months for the tme estimates to gradually go back to something close to reality. No big deal then or now, as a a longer cache length handled everything nicely. When I get an AP unit, as somebody discussed, my time estimates go up a few per cent, then slowly slide back down. Since I only get an AP about once a month, I can live with this. Two questions:

Do I understand correctly that server side time corrections are not being perfomed by S@H, but BOINC is correcting estimates within my machines?

Those of you with way over-estimated times, have you recently installed optimized aps, or changed anything else?
2449) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Worlds Cup (Message 1014965)
Posted 12 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is it all oveR yet? Can I come out now?


Pssssst. It's over ;)
You now have a choice of cycling and cricket to hide from.


Probably missed by most of the world, but the Canadian Football League started last week. Hockey can't be far behind.
2450) Message boards : Number crunching : Ten Year Whacko......... (Message 1014861)
Posted 12 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Creeping up 11 years as a Whacko.
2451) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 2 (Message 1014528)
Posted 11 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Putting cigarettes in the mouth of an "impossible-to-reach" statue sounds like something those pesky "engineers" aka university engineering department students would do as a prank. Last year in Vancouver the UBC engineers tried to hang a volkswagon beetle off the Second Narrows bridge; which got dropped in the narrows. (Oopsie). Waaay back when at the University of Western Ontario the UWO engineers hung a volkswagon beetle off the top of Middlesex College clock tower.

Which brings me to the current challenge. My guess is the Physics and Astronomy building at the University of Western Ontario.



Point one - its been a long time, I'll give the win to Peter with UWO.

Point two - it is actually the Spencer building, Faculty of Engineering, at UWO.

Point three - in my freshman year at NIT the graduating class cut a VW into pieces, hauled it up to the third floor of the the library in the freight elevator, and tack welded it back together.

Point four - take it away PETER!
2452) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1014526)
Posted 11 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Seti@home is down? Again?
2453) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #120 (The Race Is On!) (Message 1014471)
Posted 10 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning, as I come home from this year's Sunfest. Great music, great food, all outdoors. Found a shady spot, so no sunburn - unlike some previous Sunfests. Next week - folk music in the same park!
2454) Message boards : Cafe SETI : One joy of life (Message 1014424)
Posted 10 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This thread reminds me of a T-shirt I just saw:

"If a man speaks in the forest, and there is no woman there to hear him, is he still wrong?"

My wife saw the same shirt and just said "of course".
2455) Message boards : Number crunching : OK......let's wipe all the s@@t off the boards....... (Message 1014093)
Posted 10 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What is the limit?

254 digits.


hm must grow more, only have 10 digits...

When I took my shoes off I discovered I have 20


I'd tell you how I get 21, but I'd get red -x'ed.
2456) Message boards : Cafe SETI : i think the speed of light is max (Message 1014086)
Posted 10 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Agai from dimly remembered undergrad classes, the speed of light in a vacuum is constant.
2457) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (36) Server problems (Message 1014051)
Posted 10 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

I'm surprised there has been no mention of how much RAC has gone up over the last few weeks. Especially when you consider how much noise has been made in the past when it's dropped by only a % or 2.


I though I noticed that, but my main cruncher had been on and off for a few days during that time, which always throws things out of normal patterns. Theories, anyone?
2458) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #120 (The Race Is On!) (Message 1014049)
Posted 10 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can I just say I'm winning?

And welcome back Blurf. The place went all to heck with you away. Whip these kids into line, will you?

Hey dune, didn't I lend you that marble thingy? Or was it somebody else? Or did I even lend it?
2459) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 2 (Message 1014044)
Posted 10 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Too long without a guess, time for another clue.

Yes, it is a university. The head is far enough off the ground that it would take quite a bit of work to place those butts. The building must be either a phys-ed faculty, or an engineering faculty.
2460) Message boards : Cafe SETI : i think the speed of light is max (Message 1014043)
Posted 10 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Sometimes discovery happens when you aren't looking for it, but often it is guided by observation and questions. The really neat thing is that science self corrects. You never have to be completely correct, just a little bit closer to it than when you started.

Steve


And that's why I crunch S@H, Einstein, MilkyWay and others. Who knows what we will come up with? Who knows who we will put on the path to ask a slightly different question, and get a remarkable answer?
2461) Message boards : Cafe SETI : i think the speed of light is max (Message 1014002)
Posted 9 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Based on reading the popular science mags, and undergraduate physics way back in the last century, I think the the speed of light may be a limit, but it may effectively be bypassed by travel in other dimensions currently not available to us. In other words, A and B may a light year apart in the 4 dimensions we currently perceive and work in, but they may be few hours apart at speeds we can produce today in other dimensions.

I think I heard that from some Doctor - who was he again?
2462) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 2 (Message 1013988)
Posted 9 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, here is a real toughie. A clue to start with: a win goes to whoever can name the group of buildings where this is found. Bonus points to anybody who can name the building.


I will start by guessing that the head is located on a building that has something to do with education. Some university somewhere in Canada perhaps.


Good guess.
2463) Message boards : Number crunching : Why did they limit dl's at all? (Message 1013933)
Posted 9 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But chase a GPU'er away, and the damage is much larger.


People have been saying that for years, and moaning as the total number of users goes steadily down. But, if I read the graphs at BOINCstats correctly, the rate of total daily credit has been going steadily up for the last year, and even seems to be increasing the rate of increase. If the guys at Berkeley see this, and see people regularly asking for more WUs, where are they going to spend there plentiful spare time and money - hand-holding a few users to keep them from drifting, or getting on with the science?
2464) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (36) Server problems (Message 1013928)
Posted 9 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have 248,651.54 pending and my RAC hasn't gone up like it did last Friday after reporting hundreds of tasks.

Any idea why?


I have the same problem. I am guessing it because our wingmen haven't reported their work yet, and the servers are still catching up. There has to be a ton of sorting after these outages.

Steve


Guess your right. It just shocked me some seeing my pending double what it normally is. Thought there might be some serious problem with the servers..


Very similar ratio of RAC to pending here, and no jump in RAC after 3 days worth of work uploaded and reported (just move the decimal points a couple of places). It looks like the pending is not being cleared, does anybody know exactly which process in which machine normal does this?

EDIT - and after I posted I see my RAC has just gone up about 20%. Just a back log of statistical work at Berkeley?
2465) Message boards : Number crunching : Friday, July 9, server start (Message 1013916)
Posted 9 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just FYI: Due to personal circumstances, I'm not able to participate on weekends. As a result, I'm effectively now only getting work two days a week.

So far, this is going ok, but if I run out of work, I'm going to give my cycles to another project...


No problem! By contributing your cycles, you are helping science in one way or another. Good luck with what ever you choose! :)

Steve



I agree with Steve. BOINC will handle a range of workloads very nicely. I have one old machine, only on part time, that does about 2WU a week for S@H. It is quite happy to just sit there and crunch S@H, and CPDN, at its own pace. Every little bit helps.
2466) Message boards : Number crunching : Why did they limit dl's at all? (Message 1013890)
Posted 9 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Joe talked about only 1% gets affected so maybe it's not a top priority on the fix list.


Yes, but what % of annoyed posters is affected? ;)
2467) Message boards : Number crunching : Report all problems here........... (Message 1013888)
Posted 9 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Your 2 pence are noted.
But they don't pay the price that some of us have paid to be here.
All arguments about 'RAC doesn't matter' or 'you could find another project' don't mean a thing to one who has invested so much time and trouble in supporting the one project they care about.

If you cannot understand that, I suppose you should be the one to leave.

The price they paid was of their choosing.
If they feel that means they are owed something by the project, maybe it's time they left for a while & had a good long think about things & got just a bit of perspective.

It really is very strange for people to get upset when they decide to spend a bucket load of money on something when it was never asked of them to do so & when the possibility of there not being any further work, ever, is quite high.


I respectfully submit that there are different strokes for different folks. The Kittyman regularly grouses, but keeps on crunchin'. He doesn't bother me one tenth as much as the "I'm going to quit unless..." crowd. Unfortunately, not all of them quit.

And, back on topic - uploads complete. BOINC tells me "not requesting new tasks", but I have about one day worth of S@H left to crunch. So I'm happy - for now.
2468) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 2 (Message 1013811)
Posted 9 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, here is a real toughie. A clue to start with: a win goes to whoever can name the group of buildings where this is found. Bonus points to anybody who can name the building.

2469) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery Photo Game 2 (Message 1013788)
Posted 9 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is number 5 on the "10 most haunted houses in the world" list at thecontaminated.com (is that cheating?)

Raynham Hall in Norfolk, England.
2470) Message boards : Number crunching : Report all problems here........... (Message 1013779)
Posted 9 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I thought the prime function of the Boinc system was to NOT allow any resources to go unused. GPU's available!!


Then sign up for another project. BOINC is very good at that.
2471) Message boards : Number crunching : 7/9 outage over (Message 1013683)
Posted 9 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I assume they're going to wait for a bit to allow everyone some ample time to upload their work that way when it gets pegged...


any good admin could limit the download server to say 80 MB/s. you only need a tiny bit of download bandwidth for handshaking on upload.


I respectfully disagree with your characterization of all the S@H staff as "not good".
2472) Message boards : Number crunching : Friday, July 9, server start (Message 1013680)
Posted 9 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Woohoo! 36 tasks uploaded, still have about 1.5 days cache. Maybe the new setting are working?
2473) Message boards : Number crunching : One more BOINC project? (Message 1013646)
Posted 9 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Do you have a resident poster that you can always blame if anything goes wrong? It's not a proper project otherwise.


We will have, as soon as Misfit's check clears.
2474) Message boards : Number crunching : One more BOINC project? (Message 1013576)
Posted 8 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Mods? We don't need no stinkin' mods.

Well yeah... but that's only because your forums use white text on a white background.


And we have introduced a hardware implemented mode for really obnoxious posts, that results in black text on a black background. And it saves power.

2475) Message boards : Number crunching : One more BOINC project? (Message 1013531)
Posted 8 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I take it the mods stepped on you for that one, eh?

Turns out all the Scarecrow@home mods were on BillW's payroll. Crooked as a dog's hind leg.

And you took the bait and switched.


Mods? We don't need no stinkin' mods.
2476) Message boards : Number crunching : One more BOINC project? (Message 1013518)
Posted 8 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Um, sorry Scarecrow.

Your check bounced. We are taking back all your points.

All complaints to the sys admin should be sent to theboss@/dev/null
2477) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1013509)
Posted 8 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Symptoms of classicrockitis include recycling old metal music (as shown above) and uncontrolled head-banging (see next page).
2478) Message boards : Number crunching : /Why/ are VLAR WUs bad for GPUs? (Message 1013473)
Posted 8 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I believe that VLARs are not as easily split into parallel processes,which is where the GPU has the advantage. A VLAR only uses a few CPUs (maybe only one?) within the GPU, and these individual CPUs are not all that quick.

PS - that is an engineer's description, the mathematicians can tell us WHY the VLAR can't be paralleled.

PPS -35 years as an aerospace engineer, my first embedded system used an 8086 to inject false errors into an analog control loop for self test.
2479) Message boards : Number crunching : One more BOINC project? (Message 1013471)
Posted 8 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
am afraid no less than half a century of continuous rumbling would count.


Well then, I have a few relatives that have earned it.
2480) Message boards : Number crunching : One more BOINC project? (Message 1013438)
Posted 8 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
”The Shining Master of Rumble”

+ + + +

Ooooh, how do I get that one?
2481) Message boards : Number crunching : I've had enough - Packing my bags and going now (Message 1013436)
Posted 8 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Also there seems to be a lot less using the MW forum. Have no idea how big SETI is compared to MW.


According to BOINCstats:

S@H active users 170,964
S@H recent RAC 73,443,326

MW active users 20,164
MW recent RAC 124,824,812

Not many MW users, but they seem to just keep their heads down and get the work done. Even though there are frequent outages, usually unplanned.

The ratio of users, about 8.5:1 for S@H, seems to match roughly the total number of posts on their Forums. It is the lack of dire threats and woeful gnashing of teeth at MW that struck me.
2482) Message boards : Politics : A quick overview of the financial crisis (Message 1013431)
Posted 8 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
One of the big driving forces for "privatization" in this country has been plain and simple union busting. The federal, provincial and municipal civil servant unions have mostly forgotten their original purposes, and are now out to get the membership and the leadership rich at the public's expense. The union protective laws enacted over the years make this impossible to stop, without getting rid of the union. This is also a big driver in private firms moving work out of the country.

Not sayin' I always agree with privatization, just sayin' the alternatives sometimes suck too.
2483) Message boards : Number crunching : I've had enough - Packing my bags and going now (Message 1013421)
Posted 8 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Interesting observation - over at MW they have been outputting WUs at half speed since 5 July, and then "no work available" for about 24 hours now. A quick scan of their Forums shows since 5 July:

In "news":
1 post reporting the half speed
5 posts saying "yeah I know" or "thanks"
0 posts complaining, threatening to leave, etc.

In "number crunching":
6 posts, the worst of which is "this is ridiculous"
The other 5 are humorous, or just "oh well"
No threats to leave, or outrage at how users are being treated, etc.

What is it about S@H that attracts such a different set of users?
2484) Message boards : Number crunching : Suitable CPU Temperature (Message 1013411)
Posted 8 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Slightly off topic, but can anybody recommend a tool for adjusting voltages on a 64 bit laptop, running Vista?
2485) Message boards : Cafe SETI : All Canadian Music Thread (Message 1013406)
Posted 8 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, how many of you have been to Bobcaygen, Ontario? Yup, it's a real place a few hours north and east of Toronto.


Back when this song first came out, we were driving the back roads in eastern Ontario to visit some distant relatives. When we went past a turn off sign for Bobcaygen, my (then) teenaged son's eyes opened wide and he said said something like "wow, it's real".
2486) Message boards : Number crunching : Is this fair - discuss! (Message 1013405)
Posted 8 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thank you Papa. This little bit of the WE totally agrees with you.
2487) Message boards : Number crunching : Observation of Effect (Message 1013399)
Posted 8 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Still at it to see what the new normal will be.


That pretty much sums up life these days - as well as S@H. Grinding through a bunch of shorties right now, but it looks like I will make through the outrage with WUs to spare. I agree that the upload rush when they turn back on will be interesting.

An interesting side effect: my S@H queue was one or two WUs right up to 18 hours before the outage, and my other projects seemed to take this as an opportunity to overstock. Once I got a whack of S@H work, WCG started jumping in and out of high priority mode.
2488) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The best 100 movie lines in 200 seconds..... (Message 1013291)
Posted 7 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Somebody's gotta go back and get a shitload of dimes!

(I just found this thread)
2489) Message boards : Number crunching : One more BOINC project? (Message 1013267)
Posted 7 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've been thinking.... how about "Scarecrow@Home?" Not for the already power-crunchers. The project is a non-project. No servers, no workunits, no nothing. The point is for you to figure out how much money it would take to build a monster machine and be the top user. Then send that amount to Scarecrow for the continued development of great ideas just like this one. Call now, operators are standing by!


Well, over at BillW@home our users are theoretically building even BIGGER imaginary machines than those wimps at scarecrow@home. All we need is more money! Just send money, and I'll send you all the RAC you want! Special, this week only - DOUBLE RAC!!!

Offer void where prohibited by law.
2490) Message boards : Number crunching : One more BOINC project? (Message 1013265)
Posted 7 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Pasi, what you are talking about sounds very much like all the on-line games my kids play. Lots of points that mean nothing, lots of trash talking, and a chance to blow up people who don't agree with you. Give that a try.

Every other BOINC project I'm part of has very polite Forums, where people talk about the project, and hardly ever get uncivil. All very boring.

World Community Grid offers a range of medical research projects and other projects, all of which can give you a "I'm doing something good" feeling. Credits aren't bad. The hardware and daily operations are funded largely by IBM, so up time is nearly 100 %. Also, good user-friendly explanations of what the projects are doing.

MilkyWay is doing some seriously interesting research on the history of the Galactic collision we are in the middle of right now. Lots of credits, you can use a GPU, but has intermittent work availability and server crashes. (where have I heard that before?)

CPDN works fine on my hardware. I have had problems with the screen saver graphics hanging, but the crunching seems to continue. I don't use a screen saver, cuts in to my precious RAC.
2491) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Teenagers (Message 1013235)
Posted 7 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
<<<<-----has no parenting experience at all.

i never got into trouble.
because i never got caught.
the advantage of having an older brother,
you learn from his mistakes.



Yeah, I had an older sister that thrived on confrontation. I was usually sneaking in the back door while she was arguing at the front. Taught me what to look for in my kids, but I'm sure they still put one over on the Old Man from time to time. I probably don't want to know.
2492) Message boards : Number crunching : Is this fair - discuss! (Message 1013216)
Posted 7 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, basically, the SETI guys have figured out a way to parallelize and distribute the analysis of their radio spectronomy data (i.e., the SETI@home project).

Why don't they figure out a way to parallelize and distribute the analysis of the results?



Discussed several times recently, and Those Who Know tell me it it isn't practical. Take a look at the hardware at S@H (bottom of the page). Until we all have a Mork at home, and a reliable way to get gigabytes at a time in and out of it, it ain't gonna happen.

PS - if anybody wants to prove this, please send me a Mork equivalent. I'd be happy to try it out.
2493) Message boards : Number crunching : Is this fair - discuss! (Message 1013200)
Posted 7 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hiamps, believe it or not I agree with most of your post. But when you say "many here feel that the work isn't being done fast enough" do you mean the science or the crunching? I think some people in these forums really don't see a difference between crunching and science.

I'm not trying to scare away super crunchers. They should be proud of what they have done, and continue to do. My concern is that over the last year or so the science appears to have slipped, while the over-worked and under-paid S@H staff struggles to keep the WUs flowing. Crunching without analysis keeps some of the complainers quiet (briefly), but doesn't get the science done.

In an ideal world we would all get all the WUs we want, and they would be crunched and then analyzed as fast as we can buy new computers and cards. In the real world we need to allocate our finite resources carefully.

In a project like this "we" means us crunchers and the S@H staff. Instead of spending $1,000 on a hardware upgrade to just crunch SETI, and then complaining about a lack of work, how about spending some on hardware and giving the rest to SETI?

And Skildude - the whiney babies get on my nerves too, but its a free Forum. Let them continue to show their lack of understanding.
2494) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lost Mixology (Message 1013184)
Posted 7 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Miep, I like anything with mint in it. I will have to try that.

Robert, here is an old recipe from a relative who was a commercial fisherman out of Nanaimo many, many years ago. He called it "shark bait".

When you head out on your fishing run, take the largest bottle of cheap red wine you can find (usually 2 litres), and a bottle of vodka. Work upwind/up-current until your hold is full, then turn around and beat back to harbour. At that point get comfortable, open the wine, pour overboard enough to make room for the vodka (that's the shark bait bit), pour in the vodka, reseal and shake. Pass the 2 litre bottle around with your crew. Everybody is tired by this point, but the work is done, the sun is warm, and it goes down very easily.
2495) Message boards : Number crunching : Outage (Message 1013183)
Posted 7 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm glad everyone is a little cheered up. :)


I often find that life gives the choice of laughing or crying. Laughing is healthier, and doesn't make your mascara run.
2496) Message boards : Number crunching : Is this fair - discuss! (Message 1013181)
Posted 7 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Also early AM here, my extensive research into Prince Edward County Rosé will not start for several hours. This gives me some time to semi-rant.

I agree that the science should come first, and I have to defer to the professional scientists when it comes to deciding what that means about uptime and downtime. There are clearly a lot of people who just care about the RAC and credits, and letting everybody know that they have a bigger di.. I mean computer, than I have. I have attempted to re-educate some of these through my posts, but I see this is clearly futile. We continue to see the posts that start "I'm here for the science, but...".

So maybe its time to back up and try a different approach. Here is an idea that has been brewing in my head for awhile. I throw it out for comments, flames, etc.

Let's totally rethink the whole RAC and credit thing. RAC can be very useful for an individual to track their own computers relative performance, or see the effects of tweaks, failures and such. However, as hardware changes and as the project changes software, the actual number becomes meaningless. A RAC of 100 today is much easier to get than a RAC of 100 a few years ago.

Let's make everybody's RAC relative to some baseline set for their hardware/software. Let's measure a machine's performance over the first week it crunches, and call that 100. Then you can watch this go up or down as you tweak, adjust power usage, etc. We should let each user reset this back to 100 any time they like, for example when they get a new box or GPU card. Also, we should only use the "project available time", not clock time, in calculating RAC. If the project goes down for a few days (or months) your RAC would effectively be frozen. Now boasting about RAC will encourage each user to get better at crunching for S@H. If everybody gets a little better, the project gets a little better.

As for total credit, this has also become meaningless as WU size changes, hardware changes, etc. Each user either runs the hardware they happen to have, or buys what they can afford. Both will change regularly. Let's just use total CPU/GPU time crunching for total credit. An hour on my old box five years ago was as important to me then as an hour on the latest box today is to a wealthy super cruncher today. S@H should be rewarding people for what they can do.

Finally, let's come up with some project wide statistic on "total science performed", and post that large and in colour on the S@H homepage. The volunteer developers can probably come up with a widget that shows this number in real time on our screens. If it really is all about the science, isn't this the most important number?

I wonder how many of the super crunchers would actually leave under this arrangement? Some might change their hardware or even up and quit, but it appears we have too many CPUs/GPUs screaming for too few WUs right now, so would the total science performed suffer?
2497) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The eyes of the kittyman...countdown to Bionic. (Message 1013026)
Posted 7 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All good news Mark. And, in my opinion, glasses make you look cool. Or distinguished. Whichever you prefer. (They've been making me look cool and distinguished since 1967.)
2498) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (36) Server problems (Message 1013022)
Posted 7 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I respectfully submit that there is no need to panic. All is going according to plan.
2499) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Teenagers (Message 1012959)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Of course what I meant to say was "funny looking old people with a tattoo or piercing", not a looker liker Dune.
2500) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (35) Server problems (Message 1012958)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

There's no mass migration going on here. It's just a lot of whining and lack of patience.


Yeah, I count about half a dozen that have "quit" over the last few months but are still here.


I fear thinking about that some of those whining people with no patience, actually may even be gun owners....


Tell me about it. I live right next to 250 million of them.
2501) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Teenagers (Message 1012917)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Es99, I hate to generalize, because each kid can be so different. You are on the right track by making sure there are consequences for wrong behaviour, but you have to be careful that the consequences are something meaningful to the particular person and that particular age. "time outs" are for eight year olds, using it on a 14 year old makes them think YOU think they are still 8. Food works well with boys, from memory. Groundings worked well with my very social daughter, but were meaningless to my bookish son.

Sometimes mother nature provides consequences, we just have to make sure they are aware of them. Find a picture of a really old person with a tattoo or a piercing, for example, or a story about somebody in a wheel chair after an accident. That worked well for us. Get them talking about people they know who got into really big trouble (police, injuries) and about why they are there.

Also try to find good consequences for good behaviour, even if it just very small stuff. Please and thank you can be very important at this age. It is like training dogs (I know, I know - they're not really dogs). Reinforce the good, squash the bad.

Try to initiate conversations on small stuff, ask their opinion about what to have for dinner for example. This can get them in the habit of at least talking with you. With our kids, I found conversations in the car could be great for this. They're trapped there beside you for at least a few minutes, and there is no eye contact. Start with the little stuff, and try to listen to them. You don't have to agree with anything they say, but at that age they deserve your reason for not agreeing. Good reasons include "I tried that and it really hurt", "you will go to jail after I report you", or "I love you and I worry about you". They will roll their eyes, but they get the message.

Pick your battles, and only get really firm on the really big stuff. I think we can all remember a piece of clothing or a minor habit that really pissed off our parents, but didn't place us in danger or change who or what we became. Give him those ones.

And watch the A student as well. The quiet ones are often very sneaky. I was, and my daughter was. It wouldn't hurt the "problem child" to see you come down on the "golden child" once in a while. Consistency is very important.

And if none of that has worked by the time he is 18, give him the boot. Provide him with recruiting brochures for the Army, and make sure he knows that is about the only good job a high school dropout can get in Canada these days. Consequences ....
2502) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (35) Server problems (Message 1012904)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think somebody had a heart - one of the download serevs is back up...


But cricket graph is dead. Must be a glitch.
2503) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI loves me. (Message 1012903)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is right and proper for me to get my work, its all them OTHER BUGGERS "hammering the servers" that are stopping me!


I respectfully agree.
2504) Message boards : Number crunching : Outage (Message 1012856)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Spock, assemble an Away Team and beam down to Berkeley immediately. Bones, chill some champagne and send it to my quarters. I'll be there calming down Nurse Chapel until this is all over.
2505) Message boards : Number crunching : Outage (Message 1012852)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
[Kirk] GIVE ME BACK MY RAC! [/Kirk]
2506) Message boards : Number crunching : Outage (Message 1012842)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Frankly Captain, I fail to see why humans are so concerned about your RAC. I find it highly illogical.
2507) Message boards : Number crunching : Outage (Message 1012838)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
[Scotty]I dunno Cap'n, I'll try to keep crunchin', but my queue may not take it![/Scotty]
2508) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI loves me. (Message 1012836)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Question for those who understand these things: are the actual boxes used for the downloads and uploads also running other applications that are needed by S@H during this outage? Even apart from accessing the database, do they just need the CPU power for other things they are likely to be doing?
2509) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI loves me. (Message 1012781)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I can understand the reasons for wanting to devote more CPU time to the science development, but they don't have to shut off the entire rest of the project. We know they kept the message boards up. I'd rather they keep up the part that sends out work...


From Matt's post over in Technical News:

Data wise, we were able to get back to merging our various spike tables together full bore - doing so while the project was up was causing all kinds of headaches. We'll have to turn the merge off over the weekend, of course. I also was able to do a whole bunch of data integrity testing - it's nice to be able to pull 1 Gbyte of signals out of the science database without the query getting blocked, or worrying about blocking other queries.


I guess everything is tied together, to the point where you can analyze the data, or create the data, but not both at the same time.
2510) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Victor! (Message 1012671)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Happy birthday Victor/SJ/Superman. Hope BOINC brings you some presents today.
2511) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (35) Server problems (Message 1012496)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just when you think things are getting better:

BOINC asked for about 30 tasks, finally enough to fill my 5 day queue. Two downloaded about 20%, now all say "project back off..."

Oh wait, one came back, up to 51% downloaded!
2512) Message boards : Cafe SETI : All Canadian Music Thread (Message 1012483)
Posted 6 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ah, Doug and the Slugs. Puck rock at its best.

And how Canadian is this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXJ09tHMKFA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC50XxmgDCg

And something a little more up to date, from the other side of the Rockies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDY6bWT5oTM
2513) Message boards : Number crunching : Development Request: No More VLARs to GPU, Please? (Message 1012366)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Given all the recent problems with Fermi, wouldn't it just be easier to disable ALL GPU work for now?

(runs, swerves, ducks)
2514) Message boards : Number crunching : Stats for SETI@home only (Message 1012362)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

thats the whole point to this thread and all the effort

It's not Fair


Who said it would be fair? I volunteer what I have, you volunteer what you have. Good for us. If they need us - great. If they don't, how is that not fair? How much work were you promised when you signed up?


BUT giving more work units to those that won't use them vs starving those who can use them is another GIANT "management" foobar


Who is getting units and not using them? I see everybody (big cruncher and small cruncher) asking for more work. That tells me there are more volunteers than work right now. Time for us volunteers to find some other heat generator / time waster. Let BOINC keep asking for work, and if more turns up (or crunchers quit) you will get it.
2515) Message boards : Number crunching : Stats for SETI@home only (Message 1012327)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I threw out those with a rac less than 1 (my thinking those are more delinquent accounts than actullly contributed units)


agreed

I calculated a total credits using the max (29) for column 1 X the # of users and the min rac per column x the numbers users for all the other columns


I used the actual credits per group from Scarecrow's data. The difference between your number and my number possibly means the higher RAC groups are fairly recent to the game. The lower RAC groups includes a lot of people here since 1999, hence a larger total credit even if current RAC is low compared to the super crunchers. I wonder how much this was skewed when NEZ left? Mega-credits left behind when he went, but zero RAC from him for some time now.


To rephrase what you said
you can't understand why the 4475 users contributing more than half of the results turned in daily should be upset

Am I gettting that right


Absolutely. Why does being able to buy a bigger computer make you more upset than the rest of us? We are here to help with the science, when our help is needed. Why would anybody be upset if the science needs to catch up to the crunching? S@H has clearly been running right on the ragged edge of their resources (money, hardware, and human) lately. If the resources remain fixed, they will have to adjust to reflect that reality.

I, for one, would be very upset to find out the crunching was not for a scientific purpose, or even if the science suffered just to keep WUs flowing. If S@H says "sorry kids, no WUs for a few years till we sort out the science side" I would congratulate them on the decision. And then watch my RAC climb on other projects.

S@H owes me nothing. I don't think they owe any volunteer cruncher anything. I hope they find ET (or prove there is no ET), and I'll help how I can when I can.
2516) Message boards : Number crunching : Stats for SETI@home only (Message 1012301)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
just using the minimum rac of each column

you get 2.58% of all users (those above 3,000)
who add a minimum of over half of the wu being done daily

I'd say you really don't want to piss off that 2.58%


Am I missing a more recent chart? From http://bluenorthernsoftware.com/scarecrow/sahstats/rac/ I get 2.58% of users with greater RAC than 3,000, but the RAC this group contributes only 27.6% of the total (5.75+6.18+7.71+2.37+2.76+1.8+0.11).

And I'm still not clear why this group should be more pissed off then the rest of us that are have trouble getting enough work to get through the outage. And since the purpose of the extended outage is to do more of the actual science (as opposed to helping us crunch for meaningless credit) why is anybody pissed off?
2517) Message boards : Number crunching : I've had enough - Packing my bags and going now (Message 1012246)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So wait patiently and you get nothing. Whine like a baby because your "kitties" have no work and you'll be taken care of.



Judging by the amount of whining here lately, nobody is being "taken care of".
2518) Message boards : Number crunching : Stats for SETI@home only (Message 1012168)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
that's 6 million minimum per day for just the top 3



Or about 5% of the total RAC reported by BOINCStats. [rhetorical question]So, do we piss off 5% to keep the 95% happy?[/rhetorical question]

Or, should the project be run to accomplish the original science goals? And who knows more about what that means, the scientists or us out here in the peanut gallery?
2519) Message boards : Number crunching : This computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress (Message 1012160)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

My suffering hurts more than your suffering...LOL.


That seems to be the main message in most threads lately. ;)
2520) Message boards : Number crunching : This computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress (Message 1012153)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If the observations made by some are correct, in that the 20 WU limit has kept caches filled for a large percentage of slower crunchers, it's just us big boyz fighting it out now. LOL.


This slow cruncher hasn't had more than 2 WUs in my queue at one time since the project came back on Friday. At around 2 hours per WU, that won't get me through the 3 day outrage either.

We seem to be all suffering together. It is just a question of scale.
2521) Message boards : Number crunching : This computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress (Message 1012146)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ooopsie! :-)

Yes, the Gates are open!

Helli


Oh Yeah!

I just got 12 new tasks. I'm way over 20 now.


And the Cricket graphs just went way up, right on the recent schedule. It will be interesting to see what happens in an hour.


Heh, you're an optimist. You really think the servers will take this beating for an hour :-)


They have taken it for exactly one hour at regular intervals, about 10 times since Friday. Several people in another thread are trying to figure out what it all means, but it is all guess work so far.
2522) Message boards : Number crunching : This computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress (Message 1012141)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ooopsie! :-)

Yes, the Gates are open!

Helli


Oh Yeah!

I just got 12 new tasks. I'm way over 20 now.


And the Cricket graphs just went way up, right on the recent schedule. It will be interesting to see what happens in an hour.
2523) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (35) Server problems (Message 1012089)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That (Carola's theory) makes sense. Have the splitters always run only when the pool of WUs ready to send gets low, or is this something introduced with the recent BOINC software changes?
2524) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (35) Server problems (Message 1012086)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But what could be used as such limit?
When bandwidth down we still can recive work AFAIK. So, if external work request rate would stay the same we should see no bandwidth drop (or we should not get work when requested if that limiter in place). Currently we don't get work as requested because of 20 task limit, but how this limit can lead to oscillations - don't know...

[In other words limiter should constrain smth bandwidth related. But what is it if work requests still go OK?]


Now you are getting out of my specialty, but ... I have only received one or two WUs at a time since Friday, nowhere near my cache setting or the 20 WU limit. If I've been unlucky enough to only request work during the "low" part of the cycle (which is about 75 % of the time) than maybe the "throttle" is actually a less than 20 WU limit for a fixed period of time.

Another possible throttle would be to just ignore a fixed percentage of the work requests, but then I would have expected to see the old "project has no work available" message sometimes. I haven't seen any of those since the three day outage ended.

Or possibly my original theory is totally wrong. But is does look like what I see when somebody applies an external fix, while they try to figure out the actual inner workings of the total system.
2525) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update IV - All Are Welcome In The Critter Cafe (Message 1012079)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Raccoons are omnivores, but still I cannot imagine that there is much worse for them than the high protein cat food that they love the most. I tried switching to dog food a few years ago and they turned up their snotty little shoe button noses! I try to limit the cat food they get each evening so that they do not become too dependent on it. I would love it if they ate more slugs and snails out of my yard...

For that You probably need Raccoons that like Escargot. ;)


Since they are so picky, trying putting a little butter and garlic on your slugs.
2526) Message boards : Cafe SETI : All Canadian Music Thread (Message 1012078)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I was amazed to find these guys on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPEExqCXE0c&feature=PlayList&p=E2D4D7114E71CB58&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=59
2527) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 15 (Message 1012077)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What a beautiful Monday morning!

No work makes any day a great day. Even the dreaded Monday..


On behalf of the majority of the world, which is working today - phhhhhhht.
2528) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (35) Server problems (Message 1012076)
Posted 5 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just my two cents worth, previously posted over in the news thread:

This looks like limit cycling, resulting from a separate detection/correction process. Some internal process drives the system to maximum output. we have seen that this causes a complete system crash, so some external method has been created to detect full output for more than x seconds, at which point an external throttle is applied. Apparently the throttle is in place for a fixed time, and when it is removed the system cycles up to its upper limit again.

I have seen this in other complex systems. It suggests that the basic problem causing the limit cycling is either incurable, or at least incurable for some period of time. The external detection/correction is a patch (or kludge if you prefer), but a common one in complex systems.
2529) Message boards : Number crunching : How many had quit but came back because of Invite? (Message 1011806)
Posted 4 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Funny thing is....I still wish Seti would be on it's own and not part of Boinc. I had signed on to look for Seti not just run whatever David Anderson decided he liked....But sometimes you can't have the good without the bad....


I have quit several times since 1999, mostly because I needed the computer power for "real" stuff. I keep coming back because, when I can, I like to be part of a bigger project than most of us ever get the chance to. The last time I came back (in 2008) was because of an e-mail reminder from WCG.

For me, BOINC opened up my eyes to other really neat stuff (like MilkyWay) and important stuff (like WCG) where I can be a part of the action, and help in some small way. Each project has its ups and downs (except maybe WCG, which appears to be bankrolled by IBM), but I have to shake my head at the people here who seem to take it all so seriously. What did you all expect when you signed up? Did you have a RAC per dollar target? Did you have a drop-dead date for finding ET? For those of you who read the very calm forums at WCG, can you picture anybody there leaving in a huff because the Dengue fever project shut down for a few months, and they're not interested in curing cancer?

I'm just glad to be here when I can, and doing what I can. And BOINC helps fill in the gaps.
2530) Message boards : Number crunching : Next In-age prediction? (Message 1011799)
Posted 4 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As needed by who - you or the S@H project?
2531) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1011680)
Posted 4 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think Bill called it. This photo of a Dassault Falcon is not quite the same angle but it appears to have the features of the crashed plane, including the tiny nose wheel.


At the risk of being labelled an airplane nerd (which I am) and of being warned about off-topic posts (it is):

The original photo is a Falcon 20, c.1970s vintage. I think the grey paint threw off some people. Several Falcon 20s continue in use with smaller air forces as ECM trainers, this looks to be one of them (note the added antenna on the lower fuselage). I believe it is from the Norwegian AF. Steven M.'s photo link is a current production and much larger Falcon 7 or 7X, but the family resemblance is there.
2532) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1011651)
Posted 4 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:




Well, when I invited you over for lunch what I meant was ....

PS - the airplane is the last picture is a Dassault Falcon.
2533) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (34) Server Problems (Message 1011648)
Posted 4 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
No problems with downloads here. I turn in a WU, and I get one back right away.


The same with me. That is fine while the download servers are turned on, but at this rate I expect to enter the next 3 day outrage with about 4 hours of cache. And I increased my cache setting to 5 days, from 3.

Question: the effects of all this on us users is obvious, but what is the effect on the project? Compared to a (recent) typical week of unplanned outages, is S@H processing more work, less work, or about the same? And how does the processing speed compare to the flow of new work from the telescope?
2534) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 118 (Live from the swimming pool in Death Valley!) (Message 1010186)
Posted 1 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning from The True North Strong And Free.
2535) Message boards : Number crunching : New outage schedule.... (Message 1010181)
Posted 1 Jul 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Milkyway has it set so you can have 6 WU per CPU core, this is done to relieve the stress on the server. My Quad can have 24 WU at a time, an I7 with hyperthreading can have 48 (that is also the max).


1. Is this recent? A few weeks ago I often had 15 to 20 WUs on my 2 core machine.

2. Maybe S@H should try this to relive the stress on their servers.
2536) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 15 (Message 1010151)
Posted 30 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I got my picture taken with a Mountie!


I had my picture taken BY a Mountie once. I was holding this little board with a bunch of numbers on it ...

And I still think of it as Dominion Day.
2537) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 15 (Message 1010149)
Posted 30 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ah, Hump Day (before a three-day weekend). I am looking forward to the short break this weekend, but I have nothing planned for the 4th of July holiday. How about you guys?


Way up here the 4th of July is on the 1st of July, if you get my drift. So far, we have celebrated by first having an earthquake, and then having the Queen of England drop in. One wonders what one could possibly do next.
2538) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Question of the week (Message 1010144)
Posted 30 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
the next question, what would happen if the other ducks leg was missing what would it do?



Missed this one the first time around...

if you really meant "the other ducks leg was missing" then you have two ducks with one leg each. Thus the question is reduced to the previous solutions.

BUT if you meant "the ducks other leg was missing" then you have ground duck, as shown above.
2539) Message boards : Number crunching : New outage schedule.... (Message 1010136)
Posted 30 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Has the Boinc version unleashed upon Seti been released for updating by other Boinc projects? And if so, has it caused the gnashing of teeth elsewhere too?

Or was it just foisted upon us here until it works correctly?


Perhaps. I used to often have 15 to 20 MilkyWay WUs at a time in my queue, and often downloaded a dozen or more at a time on my daily update request. But recently got a message like "maximum of 12 tasks allowed", and then received 2 new WUs. Now I have 2 to 4 MW max in my queue at any one time, get a new one or two when I complete and upload one or two (this happens several times a day, all by itself). Just like SETI has been doing to me recently.

No gnashing of teeth here, or in their Forums.
2540) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery photo game (Message 1010028)
Posted 30 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This set of holes has a name. That's what I'm waiting for.


Emergency Government Headquarters "Diefenbunkers" ?

Edit: Carp, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada


WINNER!

It is the emergency escape exit from the Diefenbunker at Carp. 50 years ago it was a national secret, today it is a tourist attraction.

(Hiamps, there is at least one other Emergency Government Headquarters, so I needed the Diefenbunker or Carp.)

Take it away, Sten-Arne.
2541) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery photo game (Message 1010016)
Posted 30 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This set of holes has a name. That's what I'm waiting for.
2542) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery photo game (Message 1010000)
Posted 30 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, and plutonium, and other nasty things.
2543) Message boards : Cafe SETI : grocery ads (Message 1009998)
Posted 30 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I feel that if you use the self checkout, you should get a discount cause you are not using a cashier


I wish. I should also get a discount when I have to buy crap, because that is all they sell anymore.

Actually, what will probably start soon is that the store will charge you when you use a cashier, instead of the self-checkout.
2544) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery photo game (Message 1009994)
Posted 30 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Part of the gear you see was for monitoring a very specific environmental factor. Bob Dylan called it "a hard rain".
2545) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery photo game (Message 1009976)
Posted 30 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You're getting warmer....

But which one? It has a very specific name.
2546) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery photo game (Message 1009969)
Posted 30 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You're getting warmer....
2547) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery photo game (Message 1009939)
Posted 30 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, it's about one day, so here is the first clue:

For many years this structure officially didn't exist, but now it is a National Historical Site.
2548) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery photo game (Message 1009804)
Posted 29 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, here is a photo I took of No. 1 son on top of a famous landmark. Well, locally famous, anyway.

2549) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery photo game (Message 1009754)
Posted 29 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey, I bought that bridge the last time I was in Brooklyn, from a nice young man in a cheap suit.
2550) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (34) Server Problems (Message 1009730)
Posted 29 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So you think someone's in there doing science at midnight. Now that's enthusiasm.


Maybe not someone, but something. Freed up CPU cycles could start on other things, like the big backlog waiting to assimilated, even without a human there.
2551) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 2 (Message 1009712)
Posted 29 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But even the Wiki gives two different spellings!
2552) Message boards : Cafe SETI : grocery ads (Message 1009711)
Posted 29 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You must be about the same age as me :).
2553) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery photo game (Message 1009698)
Posted 29 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Centre Street bridge in Calgary?
2554) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer from Around the World... (Message 1009697)
Posted 29 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Do you guys mean to tell me that they make beer in places other than Milwaukee and St. Louis????
Who knew?!


If you're ever up my way, you can spend weeks finding all the places that brew beer near me.
2555) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 2 (Message 1009582)
Posted 29 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Don't forget the very polite cousin, Pleif-and-thank-you Erikson.
2556) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery photo game (Message 1009580)
Posted 29 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, people from Toronto keep telling me it is the centre of the universe.

soft^spirit wins, and at her suggestion she should start a new thread. Tomorrow AM would be OK by me.

John McC., is that OK with you? It is your thread after all.

Edit - major tactical error quietly corrected.
2557) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery photo game (Message 1009570)
Posted 29 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Arkayn, it is near a needle, but not a needle.

Byron, I knew some people would find it easier. If nobody gets it by tomorrow AM, just tell us what you think.
2558) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1009548)
Posted 29 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Replacing the "four way stop" signs with "four way stop if you feel like it" signs was a big mistake.
2559) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery photo game (Message 1009535)
Posted 28 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
No takers? Need a hint? It is a few hours drive from where I am.
2560) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer from Around the World... (Message 1009474)
Posted 28 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm developing a taste for Dutchy Original Organic Ale, apparently from Prince Chuck's personal dukedom. Very nice, but very expensive over here. Also a big fan of McEwans. But my all time favorites remain the Belgium Trappist types.
2561) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Workout/Weight Loss Thread (Message 1009432)
Posted 28 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
not all carbonated diet drinks contain aspartame.
some still use saccharin(sweet and low)
most of the newer drinks are using Splenda.


i find if i don't drink a coke zero every three days...
i'm not as cheerful and ebullient...

i've gone four days now and i'm getting pretty peeved....



Gee, maybe everybody has that effect. That would explain so much in the world today. So, for the sake of world peace - [singing] I'd like to buy the world a coke...[/singing].
2562) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery photo game (Message 1009426)
Posted 28 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'd like to thank my producer, my director, and the Academy.

Now then, this will be too easy for some, harder for others. Photo was slightly re-touched to remove a very obvious clue.

2563) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery photo game (Message 1009411)
Posted 28 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hurst Castle,or Mansion, or whatever he called it? Near San Simeon? Spelling is probably wrong, haven't been there in about 30 years.
2564) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 2 (Message 1009286)
Posted 28 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The store of fresh meat on board was handled by their cousin, Beif Erickson.
2565) Message boards : Number crunching : is the era of crunching farms over? (Message 1009174)
Posted 28 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As an outside observer, I think we may see a shift away from farms, but there will always be a few die hard enthusiasts who don't care about heat and power bills. They will continue to amaze us with their RAC.

If I win the lottery, high on my list of things to do is to set up a farm of half a dozen multiple GPU machines, just to see what could happen.
2566) Message boards : Number crunching : Queue length for workunits question. (Message 1009050)
Posted 28 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think what is limiting you (and me) is just available WUs. I have left my preferences at 3 days, which used to get me around 20 to 25 WU in the queue at any time, but the last week or so I'm lucky to have 8 or 10 in the queue. When work is requested, I get one or two at a time, or the infamous message "no work available".
2567) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1008489)
Posted 26 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


The ref can't find anything in the rule book about this.
2568) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1008471)
Posted 26 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just taking a quick break before my next flight, after a long hot day on the test site in Phoenix. It was a hundred and way too many degrees here today!

That's eleven, so here we go. All were good, so picking sort of at random we get:

Special message to Steven Meyer, on behalf of Local 236 of the International Brotherhood of Crash Test Dummies - we are not amused.

Third place to Miep - This has to be better than staring at goats!
(just saw that movie, loved it)

Second place to Julie - Headbanging,...it's a disease...
(on behalf of the Headbangers Union, I would like to ... uh ... what?)

And the winner is - James Southerdon!!
The first ad for Krazy Glue just didnt hit the mark.

I will send a PM as soon as I get my head out of this helmet ...
2569) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (34) Server Problems (Message 1008459)
Posted 26 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I just got 18 tasks, they say they will take 20 hours each!!!!!!


Great! That will keep you crunching through the 3 day shut down next week.
2570) Message boards : Number crunching : How about fixing HIGH PRIORITY? (Message 1008458)
Posted 26 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Aha, it all becomes clear. Now it is the WU that goes into high priority. I think before it was the project that went into High Gear, with WUs within the project then being processed FIFO. This new way would explain the frequent shifts between WUs, and would explain why eventually it goes back to processing the oldest WU - when that one goes into high priority. (And so far, that has always happened soon enough before the WU times out.)

Still, wouldn't all this extra switching between WUs be inefficient, at a time when you need the old projects to get cleared out? Or is the loss of efficiency in switching minor?
2571) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Question of the week (Message 1008454)
Posted 26 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, but the duck could still float. And if it floats, it must be made out of wood. So, therefore ....
2572) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Worlds Cup (Message 1008453)
Posted 26 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry guys, but which world cup is this? Too early for hockey, isn't it?
2573) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Question of the week (Message 1008352)
Posted 25 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Then you have ground duck. Very good on the BBQ.
2574) Message boards : Number crunching : Donating to Seti (Message 1008348)
Posted 25 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just signed up for Goodsearch. Does anyone know if we can see any statistics about how much actually reaches S@H?


I apologize if it is rude to answer your own posts, but just found this.

36 cents in January to $2.63 in May is a good trend, but we need many more people to sign up to make any difference.

Also, IE8 closes and opens just fine for me after installing Goodsearch. And you can leave other toolbars open, if you like.
2575) Message boards : Number crunching : Donating to Seti (Message 1008326)
Posted 25 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just signed up for Goodsearch. Does anyone know if we can see any statistics about how much actually reaches S@H?

That will give me something to look at when I don't have WUs ;).
2576) Message boards : Number crunching : How about fixing HIGH PRIORITY? (Message 1008287)
Posted 25 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ingleside, thank you, but I know all the stuff you already said. I understand why priorities are handled differently between different projects because of my local settings. I still have 3 questions your info doesn't seem to address:

When a project goes into "priority", why does it leave the "first in" task, currently running and part way done, and start on a task with the latest due date (presumably one of the last tasks downloaded)?

Still in high priority, why would a partially completed task go back to "waiting to run", and another task start in high priority? Both tasks in the same project, by the way.

Why did this all just start when I switched from 6.4.something to 6.10.56?

I'm just curious. I still seem to get all my tasks done on time, but I'm trying to figure out the new logic. And no, I'm not threatening to quit ;).
2577) Message boards : Number crunching : Please, just press detatch ... (Message 1007996)
Posted 25 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If they aren't, I'd suggest they press DETACH.


Is it OK to stay here to find ET AND annoy people?
2578) Message boards : Number crunching : Please, just press detatch ... (Message 1007992)
Posted 25 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
ladies, gentlemen and my fellow marsupials,
i'd really appreciate reading a thread that doesn't devolve into a flame war.


See? I'm annoying people already.
2579) Message boards : Number crunching : Please, just press detatch ... (Message 1007988)
Posted 25 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Heck, they don't need anything from anybody three days a week (maybe more). It's going to be fun trying to get more work after a three day outage (maybe more);


You can still crunch what you can get, 24/7 if you get enough. BOINC will look after all that. Just make sure you have an extra project or two attached.

Oh, heck, I may leave one machine crunching, just so I can participate in these boards when someone pisses me off in Politics,


That's the spirit! Count me in too, for whatever bits of work I get,and as an excuse to bug people on the Forums.
2580) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1007968)
Posted 25 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just got off a plane and checked into a hotel. Give me a few minutes guys.

Oh, and thanks for the win.


What thread was it posted in. My rig doen't show a winner yet.


Look up, look way up ....

Canadians will get the reference.
2581) Message boards : Cafe SETI : super double coupons!!!! (Message 1007955)
Posted 24 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
...mmm...

Ice cream
2582) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My Californian adventures. (Message 1007950)
Posted 24 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If you were in Los Angeles, I do hope you sampled one of the local delicacies:
Tommy Burgers!!



I have not had one in a long time. Yes they are great, so long as you go next door and buy some bagels to soak up the fat first.

I even have the Tommy's T-shirt.

btw, they are here in San Diego now.

Yes, even Las Vegas. http://www.originaltommys.com/tommy_loctions.php They have gone corporate and downhill too.

And there's even one in Barstow CA too.

Tommy's Original Hamburgers
www.originaltommys.com
2610 Fisher Boulevard
Barstow, CA 92311-9446
(760) 253-5500

My Brother used to take Me to one of the Tommy's Original Hamburgers restaurants every other month, the other times We'd have Domino's Pizza or go to lunch or breakfast at a restaurant in Hesperia CA, My Nephews dog and My Brothers dog would either eat the pizza crust or have some of the fries, He left Me some good memories among other things.

@ Andy: You'll have to try a burger there, They are great and good value too.


Last had a Tommy Burger in about 1978, on visit back to my old Alma Mater. What I remember is the free jalapenos while you waited in line. They were free because NOBODY could eat more than 2. Also remember that CHPs regularly ate in the one in Hawthorne that I went to. To this day, I used them as a baseline in evaluating burgers.

Oh, and - more pictures please.
2583) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Attack Cat...help! (Message 1007928)
Posted 24 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Snip, snip. (hehehe)

Odd... that caused me to involuntarily cross my legs.


I think I am going to have nightmares.

Steve



I'm wincing. Again.
2584) Message boards : Cafe SETI : super double coupons!!!! (Message 1007925)
Posted 24 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Loosely related topic - saw a news story last year that only about 5% of people in North America bother to mail in rebate coupons. Switching to online rebates increases this to about 7%. How lazy can you get? I mail those suckers in right away.


57 cent stamp + five minutes of my time = $5 is a no-brainer.

But as KenzieB said, they don't influence my spending. I look for value first (including the rebate).
2585) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1007909)
Posted 24 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, what can we do with this?

PS - I'm in several states and two countries for the next few days, I may not be able to judge until Sunday AM, EST.

2586) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1007905)
Posted 24 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just got off a plane and checked into a hotel. Give me a few minutes guys.

Oh, and thanks for the win.
2587) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Attack Cat...help! (Message 1007902)
Posted 24 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
if the cast iron skillet is ineffective.. well there is always plan Bobbit.


The Bobbit plan struck fear in the hearts of every man. Just the thought would make me comply with anything!

Steve


I was parked in a freeway traffic jam when I frst heard the Bobbit story on the CBC radio news. I swear, I looked around at the time and there were about a dozen guys stuck with me that were all wincing at the same time.
2588) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update III - The Critter Cafe is Still Open (Message 1007898)
Posted 24 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Pardon my interruption of your interruption, but I though the critter lovers in the crowd might be interested in some very peculiar critters I ran into in Pittsburgh the last few days. I was there for a serious conference, but the hotel I unwittingly selected was hosting a large number of very strange, um, critters.
2589) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (34) Server Problems (Message 1007891)
Posted 24 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Gee, if only there was some way to download enough work to see you through scheduled outages....
2590) Message boards : Number crunching : How about fixing HIGH PRIORITY? (Message 1007624)
Posted 24 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm using 6.10.56, and when high priority kicks in I have tasks running in wrong order (latest completion deadline runs first), and tasks being partially completed and then another high priority task (in same project) starting. So far, priority mode kicks in soon enough that I still don't miss deadlines. In other words, one or two projects will hog both CPUs in priority mode, and clear out all tasks before the deadline, or enough to exit priority mode and still meet deadlines. However, these seems to go slightly unstable at times. One project will exit priority mode, another project (that has not done any work for a few days) will start to run, but in a few minutes or hours the first project goes back into priority mode. This continues until the first project's task que is drained.
2591) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Es99!!! (Message 1007266)
Posted 22 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
From what I remember of those days, slightly less rude or sullen seemed like a victory. Hang in there, they turn into real people eventually.

And happy birthday.
2592) Message boards : Number crunching : How about fixing HIGH PRIORITY? (Message 1007255)
Posted 22 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm not sure if this really a bug or just a "feature". In my experience, no projects have timed time out (yet, fingers crossed). The method of picking what to run next when in high priority does look a little strange however.
2593) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1007137)
Posted 22 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Uploads pending, no downloads, RAC falling. I quit.
2594) Message boards : Technical News : Perfect Storm, Inc. (Jun 16 2010) (Message 1007136)
Posted 22 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
ront, the only reliable information is on the project home page. The validator had problems over the weekend, and everything locked up as a result. "Staff" is aware, and working on it.

Almost everything you read on these Forums is speculation (other than posts from "the staff"). Some informed, most not. It should only be considered as entertainment.
2595) Message boards : Number crunching : Validators now online. (Message 1007027)
Posted 21 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can I complain about the validators not validating fast enough? The upload server is still out of disk space so we can't upload! :-) Let's get this show back on the road!


"Your complaint is validated".


.. or it will be soon, once we clear the validator backlog.
2596) Message boards : Number crunching : one more hot quad. (Message 1007025)
Posted 21 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
the service rep was in my driveway 30 mins later.




HEY HEY - that's how to get S@H straightened out. I'm going to threaten to quit RIGHT NOW.

You can all thank me later.
2597) Message boards : Technical News : Perfect Storm, Inc. (Jun 16 2010) (Message 1007022)
Posted 21 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My local fire dept is totally volunteer and they welcome all with a smile
no harassing the messenger, no pointing the blame, they just DO IT


First, you and I are the volunteers here. Just do it, please. I'm doing it right now.

Second:

consequences of bad performance of volunteer fire department: death and destruction

consequences of bad performance of S@H project (I assume that is what you mean): well - uh - not much, really
2598) Message boards : Number crunching : Validators now online. (Message 1007011)
Posted 21 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

You may now start complaining :-)

Are you going to complain, if I don't want to complain?


I'd like to complain about that post.
2599) Message boards : Technical News : Perfect Storm, Inc. (Jun 16 2010) (Message 1006979)
Posted 21 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So It's "PROFESSIONAL" conduct to slight the volunteers and place blame on
poor equipment or insufficient help When its not functioning every other day



I think the only volunteers anybody is slighting are those that expect S@H to function more than every other day. The rest of us volunteers are happy to be here, and to help when we can.
2600) Message boards : Number crunching : In about 25 minutes... (Message 1006955)
Posted 21 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yeah, the sah validators turned "Disabled" instead of "Not Running"


You see what can be achieved if everyone pulls together?




Yeah, I'm sure all the complaining on the Forums had a lot to do with the change in status. If it wasn't for all the obnoxious, narrow minded, self serving, infantile whining posts, this problem could have gone unnoticed for weeks or even months.
2601) Message boards : Technical News : Perfect Storm, Inc. (Jun 16 2010) (Message 1006933)
Posted 21 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The server is out of disk space, yes - but that's because the validators are off-line - and the validators are off-line because one was spotted trying to grant infinite credit to a WU!



Credits really don't matter to me, so I could have lived with that. Especially if it was my WU.
2602) Message boards : Number crunching : High Priority (Message 1006904)
Posted 21 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've seen a (new) pattern to EDF in 6.10.56:

Tasks somewhere in the last third (ordered FIFO) will go into high priority, then (usually omitting a couple) tasks received later until it hits the end of the list. Then it works backwards for a bit until it drops out of EDF. This is for tasks with more or less the same deadline (1-2 days difference).


I have seen exactly the same behaviour with Rosetta and WCG since switching to 6.10.56. It is a little upsetting at first, but I haven't missed any deadlines yet. Eventually BOINC appears to go into "super-duper priority" mode, and the tasks with the soonest deadline get precedence.

Of course, I haven't had much trouble with deadlines in S@H lately, since I hardly get any tasks anyway.
2603) Message boards : Technical News : Perfect Storm, Inc. (Jun 16 2010) (Message 1006902)
Posted 21 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But that's what the Beta site is for. The probs we've been having with the new server-side stuff (VERY mjor changes) that were introduced on the Production site without any warning or info are very bad.
The project IS very public, and should not be treated the way you would treat stuff written for yourself or a few pals/colleagues.


Beta can only go so far, with so many different user setups. Eventually you have to go to a broader base. That was always implicitly part of what we volunteered for.

Also, I like to think of everybody here as pals and colleagues. That is the fun part of volunteering.
2604) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (33) Server problems (Message 1006883)
Posted 21 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
9 million result files averaging 25KB would be about 225GB of disk space. I don't know how big bruno's fiber channel array is, but would have guessed at least 2TB.
                                                               Joe


But how much of the 2TB is available for the validator? Bruno does some other stuff, and maybe the disk is full of other files, like saved games and photos from last summer's vacation (based on a quick survey of what's filled up my disc).

But seriously, how long will it take to clear the validator back log? Maybe the Tuesday shutdown will come a day early this week.
2605) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday KenzieB !!! (Message 1006874)
Posted 21 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Congrats to kenzieB on yet another anniversary of her 19th birthday! So, are you old enough to drink yet?
2606) Message boards : Technical News : Perfect Storm, Inc. (Jun 16 2010) (Message 1006871)
Posted 21 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I personally still volunteered the computer time to help the science. But I did not volunteer my time and effort to alpha test software.


But how do you do cutting edge science without continually developing and testing new software? To me, that is an integral part of the science, and half the fun.

It's not like I have to do hard labour or even think very much to help do this science. I just volunteer unused computer time, and then sit back and watch. Watching the graphs and the stats is fun, but it is not the prime purpose here.
2607) Message boards : Technical News : Perfect Storm, Inc. (Jun 16 2010) (Message 1006757)
Posted 21 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The project is run by students who have been sheltered from the "real" world, where lack of professionalism would be met with a pink slip.


Have you actually read the bios of the people who run the project?

Have you read anything about the project, or do you just have your own goals and expectations?

Can you show me one quote where they promise to always have WUs in the form you want, in the quantities you want?
2608) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 15 days to go till the next Birthday (Message 1006736)
Posted 21 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ah, the big five-oh. I dimmly recall that birthday.

Congrats on making it this far VW. My favorite bumper sticker says "getting old isn't for sissies".
2609) Message boards : Number crunching : High Priority (Message 1006635)
Posted 20 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
BOINC used to regularly do this before whatever it was that happened last week. In my case, everything always got done before deadline, so I really didn't care.
2610) Message boards : Number crunching : Confessions of a SETI@home Cruncher (Message 1006590)
Posted 20 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Have you ever noticed now many thoughtful posts on these threads come from Canada?
2611) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1006542)
Posted 20 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:



Hiamps new pipe still had a few bugs in it.

OR

BOINC and S@H managers discuss implementation of new server software changes.
2612) Message boards : Cafe SETI : HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Mike! (Message 1006541)
Posted 20 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Auf Ihrem Geburtstag wünsche ich Ihnen das ganzes Beste, Mike.
2613) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How do you think you will die? (Message 1006288)
Posted 19 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've been functioning under the assumption that I am immortal.
I suppose I'll just carry on this way until proven wrong.


Typical man ;).
2614) Message boards : Number crunching : Do I hear the sound of a riot? (Message 1005858)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, it is all academic at this point. The Cricket download graph just flatlined, so no work for you and me for some time. Guess the weekend comes early.

PS - just noticed that my S@H RAC has actually climbed over the last few days.
2615) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How do you think you will die? (Message 1005852)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, Es99 has just picked how she will likely die ...

PS - I'm part Mohawk, and we forgave you years ago. Just as long as we keep the cheap cigs franchise. And the casinos.
2616) Message boards : Number crunching : Suggestion Re Daily Quota Message (Message 1005813)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ja, das ist korrekt Herr Jahn.

Victor, I was talking about the "anonymous platform, Unknown" that show up on the new "applications details" page. Sorry, my post was a little confusing. What platforms do you see on your Applications details, and what are the various quota?. Right now I have a quota of 8 for anonymous platform, Unknown and 108 for anonymous platform, CPU. But I still only get about one WU every 2 or 3 hours, and haven't had more than 2 WUs on my machine at the same day for several days.

EDIT - I think "Anonymous" in all this means an optimized ap, since that is what I'm running. Do folks with stock aps see something different on the new page?
2617) Message boards : Number crunching : Suggestion Re Daily Quota Message (Message 1005798)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
From here the DQM looks like mere wishful thinking, As I have about 4 hours worth of work left and barring a small miracle, I'll be out before morning comes around.

DQM is at 244 and still no work for the anonymous platform, Only for the stock app.


I think the "anonymous" platform is old units, sent out before SETI distingushed between CPU and GPU platforms. I don't expect to ever see more of those, all we will get will be CPU or GPU platforms. "Anonymous" should shrivel up and die over the next few days or weeks.
2618) Message boards : Number crunching : Done here. (Message 1005792)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If you want a nice reliable second project, consider World Community Grid. A quick look around their Forums shows you how boring life can be when IBM runs the day to day part of distributing and collecting work.
2619) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contacted by ufos (Message 1005786)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have not been able to prove or disprove if BOINC had anything to do with it.



Did you earn credit for it? If not, I'd just quit BOINC right now.
2620) Message boards : Number crunching : Do I hear the sound of a riot? (Message 1005785)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I dont have a problem with a 100 WU limit/core.


The new system is even better than that. I'm up to 120 WU per day the last time I looked, although I'm only geting 4 or 5. The big crunchers will get their workload back in a few days, as long as they don't error out. If they consistantly have errors, maybe they shouldn't get lots of WUs. As Pasi said, our problems are small. Go fishin' for a few days.
2621) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contacted by ufos (Message 1005769)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That's why I always wear my tinfoil hat when I'm at any computer. This works OK at home, but I get funny looks when I use the computers at the local library.


But you used to get funny looks before you started doing that .....



Actually, the surgery cleared up most of that.
2622) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How do you think you will die? (Message 1005688)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As a S@H user, you must have learned the value of patience in scientific endeavors.

Statistically, I will probably go slowly, unaware and drooling in some hospital bed, surrounded by expensive medical equipment and staff. All this will be paid for by my children's taxes. A parent's revenge.
2623) Message boards : Number crunching : Do I hear the sound of a riot? (Message 1005681)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Please, fix this before the rioting gets totally out of hands.



But what can a poor boy do
'cept to crunch for the SETI Man?
'cause in sleepy London town
there's just no place for a street fighting man.

Appologies to Jaeger/Richards
2624) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Contacted by ufos (Message 1005671)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Moonstar, they're all just funnin' with you.

SETI at Home is not about communicating with aliens, but just about trying to detect if they even exist. Communicating would come later, if ever.

For the rest of you - the aliens will use your computer to directly take control of your brain. That's why I always wear my tinfoil hat when I'm at any computer. This works OK at home, but I get funny looks when I use the computers at the local library.
2625) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How do you think you will die? (Message 1005670)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I fully expect my head to explode one day while reading a post from a S@H user demanding better service.
2626) Message boards : Number crunching : Message from server: (reached daily quota of 100 tasks) (Message 1005478)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Oh calm down WBG. You are not a stakeholder. This is not a service.

You and I are volunteers. S@H sometimes needs us. Sometimes they don't. It's their toys. If they don't want to play, we can find somebody else or sit in the corner and feel sorry for ourselves.

Rosetta is giving me bags of work right now. Try them.

PS - the changes are being volume tested right now, by you and me. That's what volunteers do.
2627) Message boards : Number crunching : Message from server: (reached daily quota of 100 tasks) (Message 1005473)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My machine spends much more than 50% of the time with no S@H work.

You're running more than one project. The more projects you run the less time there is for Seti, depending on your work share preferences. And if you run a cache with more than one project it can take months for debts owed to projects to be repaid.
So it may be that BOINC isn't downloading Seti work because you owe time to other projects & may run into deadline problems while that debt is being paid back.


My project mix hasn't changed in 6 months or more. I occasionally switch off for a few days when my lap top travels with me, but up until the end of last week I actually ran out of work maybe once every few months. S@H was always the last to run out when project deadlines became an issue, because I always had a few WUs with deadlines several weeks away that could sit there for a few weeks no problem. Now I get one WU and it crunches straight through. Something has changed, even for us little guys not doing hundreds of WUs per hour.
2628) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1005467)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Don't get ideas, these are MY socks.
2629) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1005461)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, that's ten(ish). All very good as always.

Special mention to Steven Meyer for his terribly politically incorrect entry. (You guess which one.)

Third place is Carlos - ROTFLMAO, these humans love to state the obvious.

Second goes to skildude - Yet another spinoff... Jackass: Arctic!

But first place has to go to the one person who really matched the expression on the bear's face ...

BLURF - "Darn you kids! Just wait til I get back on my feet! Why I'll...."

PM outbound soonest
2630) Message boards : Number crunching : Message from server: (reached daily quota of 100 tasks) (Message 1005456)
Posted 18 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
After it's bedded down & been running for a while (i'd say a couple of months) i'm sure they'll review how things have been going.


I think there is more at work here than just the change in limits. Maybe simple lack of work?

My daily quota has climbed all the way to 105, but I have received 4 WUs in the last 24 hours. My machine spends much more than 50% of the time with no S@H work. A week ago I typically had 10 to 20 WUs on this machine at one time. Since Monday I've had 0 to 2.

I sympathize with somebody who's new limit of a 100 or so has slowed them down, but what has happened to me?
2631) Message boards : Number crunching : Lost Results (Message 1005353)
Posted 17 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Francesco, the statistics you see on the SETI web pages can be some hours or even days behind reality. The delays seem to get worse when there have been big outages, as we have had this week. Your results are probably still in some computer at Berkeley, waiting to be processed and added to the publicly visible web pages. Don't expect the web pages to update the instant that BOINC reports the result.

When things run smoothly, you usually hardly notice the delay. When the delays get longer, and when people submit huge numbers of results, then things can look a little strange.
2632) Message boards : Number crunching : I tricked seti to give me work. (Message 1005301)
Posted 17 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I just managed to get some WUs by sitting back and doing nothing for the last few hours.

There are obviously big changes underway on the server side, and they may take some time to sort out, de-bug, and get back in the swing. I'm not sure anything we do on our side can have as much effect as whatever is going on in Berkely.
2633) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Makin' some bread (Message 1005232)
Posted 17 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
James and Chris and others, interesting to see the number of techies here. I think we are attracted to the results graphs and blinking lights ...
2634) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1005196)
Posted 17 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Uli. Decided to keep with a bear theme going on in another thread ...

2635) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Makin' some bread (Message 1005194)
Posted 17 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm an engineer by profession and inclination. I've been lucky enough to have had a variety of work experience, partly because of trying to work where I want to live, and partly because the "interesting" little companies I prefer to work for aren't terribly stable. I cashed in on this variety about 5 years ago, and set myself up as a consultant to a wide range of businesses. Most of my work is test engineering (recent projects covered helicopters, city buses, forestry machinery and a hay baler), and advice on regulatory compliance and government paperwork in general.

My advice to anyone who asks (and to my kids, even though they didn't ask) is to find something you like doing, then figure out how to get paid for it.
2636) Message boards : Number crunching : Application Details Wrong (Message 1004989)
Posted 17 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Somebody in another thread reported that this new data is from a table just started, that will take a few days to fully populate and produce "real" data. Don't know if downloads are based on this table, if so we will have to wait a few days.
2637) Message boards : Number crunching : Question about Seti (Message 1004931)
Posted 16 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hi Sal, and welcome to the forums. What a treat to see a message that isn't complaining about something.

As a rank amateur for several years, I have found a few ways to track my progress through BOINC in general and S@H in particular. Here is what works for me. Keep in mind that all the projects tend to be fairly long term, so this is NOT something where you can see results update second by second, or make changes in how you run or what projects you run, and immediately see results. The time scale is at least days, more like weeks or even months for some projects.

First, the best immediate source of info is the BOINC Manager screens. Open up BOINC Manager. If you see a small window with a few controls at the bottom, click on "Advanced View" to get to the interesting stuff.

This should give you lots of tabs to move between. Each screen has assorted data. Study them for awhile, and ask questions here about anything you don't understand. It would take me hours to describe everything you can see here. This set of screens is all about the work being done on the computer you view the pages on.

Next, go to the SETI @ Home pages. From the advanced view of BOINC Manager, you can click on SETI on the projects tab, and this will bring up a menu on the left of the various SETI web pages available. some give you general project info, but some will lead you to info about your work. Most projects call the work you do in a project your "account", and it can include work done on more than one computer. Again, browse around, try the help buttons, and post more questions here.

Next are the various sites that collect statistics, including yours. From the SETI home page, click on "Your Account" on the top tool bar. Scroll down on this page, and you should come to a section headed "computing and credit". In this section there are several cross-project stats sites to visit. These generally show your results in various colorful graphs, and let you compare your progress with others working on the same project. Each shows slightly different data, in slightly different ways. I'm partial to BOINCstats, but that's just me.

As for which projects to choose, that is all up to you. Each project has a home page, that you can find by Googling BOINC, or by going to "Tools" -> "Attach to a project" in the BONIC Manager advanced view. This will give you a list of home pages. Each home page will tell you what the project is trying to do. Follow your head, or your heart, as you see fit.

PS - just tried to find you in BOINCstats, and all I can see is a message about "not in BOINCstats yet". It make take a few days for you to show up there. And yes, everybody can see some of your stats, and you can see some of everybody else's.
2638) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update III - The Critter Cafe is Still Open (Message 1004911)
Posted 16 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another old bear joke.

If a bear is chasing you, you can easily tell what kind of bear it is. Climb a tree. If the bear climbs the tree after you, it is a black bear. If it shakes you out of the tree, it is a grizzly. If it just knocks the tree over, it is a brown. If everything is white and there are no trees to be seen, it is a polar bear.


Good one!

It is said Polar Bears fear nothing.


Old polar bear story, heard several times in slightly different versions, so maybe it had some truth behind it. A small number of helicopter pilots get their jollies chasing wild life. Moose, bears, whatever. (they're not all like that.) Several have told me that if you chase a polar bear on the open ice it will run at first. It is actually running to the nearest high spot. When it gets there, it rises up on its hind legs, faces the helicopter, and waits for you to get closer.
2639) Message boards : Politics : Should we shut SETI down? (Message 1004902)
Posted 16 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Back on topic:


But now that this is on the politics page, isn't it off topic?
2640) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (33) Server problems (Message 1004815)
Posted 16 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here's a new one. Check out your SETI Project Preferences page. I'm getting:

Notice: Constant MAX_CPU_DESC already defined in /disks/ptolemy/c/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/seti_boinc_html/project_specific_prefs.inc on line 104
Notice: Undefined property: stdClass::$background in /disks/ptolemy/c/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/seti_boinc_html/project_specific_prefs.inc on line 416
Notice: Undefined property: stdClass::$user_logo in /disks/ptolemy/c/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/seti_boinc_html/project_specific_prefs.inc on line 421


I get the $background and $user_logo warnings, but nothing about MAX_CPU_DESC.

This looks like what I would expect to see if I had just changed some code, and was trying it out to see if it works. Or if a temporary patch was put in to handle a big problem, without worrying about some little problems.
2641) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update III - The Critter Cafe is Still Open (Message 1004812)
Posted 16 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Jaws has hit the beach and has grown legs and Fur, I can see the movie now: GRIZZLIES, Just when You thought It was safe to go camping. ;)

They're a step ahead of you, V......



Wow, all three of my all-time favorite actors. Why didn't I know about this one?
2642) Message boards : Technical News : Perfect Storm, Inc. (Jun 16 2010) (Message 1004784)
Posted 16 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks very much Matt. Believe it or not, a lot of us sympathize with you, and don't expect 24/7 uptime. Of course, we don't usually post about it.
2643) Message boards : Number crunching : Reporting starts working (Message 1004766)
Posted 16 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What's the matter, again?

FF


The data I see on the server status page right now is all very old, up to 7 hours old. (Right now I see the replica 0 seconds behind the master, but 7 hours ago.) Yes, the databases server is running, but it has quite a bit of running to do after the shutdown. You can't think of the on-line stats reporting as real-time. They have just gone through a prolonged shutdown, and things will take awhile to catch up. I assume they put more priority on creating and distributing work right now then on reporting stats.

Also, I suspect that even if the replica is up to speed with the master that doesn't mean the master is up to speed. Again, it may have a big backlog after the shutdown/upgrade/whatever the heck just happened.
2644) Message boards : Number crunching : Message from server: (reached daily quota of 100 tasks) (Message 1004763)
Posted 16 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is the answer to abandon the opti apps and go back to stock? Overall I'll be crunching 24/7 again at least while they continue to work through to a resolution.


for another option, read my thread above. With a backup project, my CPUs will switch over to whatever is there, with me or without me. Set the share for the backup project quite low, and it will slide back into the background for days or weeks once S@H sorts itself out and can supply you work. In the long run, it will only take whatever share of your CPUs you set. Could be 0.01% for example, if S@H has a project share of 10000 and the backup has a share of 1.

If you are astronomically inclined, both MilkyWay and Einstein are pretty cool.
2645) Message boards : Number crunching : Still Buggy After All These Hours? (Message 1004757)
Posted 16 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Have to agree with Richard. I have been getting the "invalid ap version description" message for the last 48 hours or so, but I still download (when available), crunch and report. I'm not changin' nothin' till this is sorted out.
2646) Message boards : Number crunching : Message from server: (reached daily quota of 100 tasks) (Message 1004755)
Posted 16 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Observing an interesting "feature" in BOINC right now. I've been requesting S@H work for hours now, having run out yesterday. With no S@H, my task list looks pretty empty, so regular update requests to MW and Rosetta during this time filled the list with those tasks. About 3 days worth - if you don't have S@H crunching, usually my biggest share. So, Rosetta freaks out when S@H finally wakes up and sends me one WU, and both CPUs are now processing Rosetta at high priority. As a result - no more downloads from anything for right now. I have about 5 days worth each of MW and Rosetta (at my normal rate of consumption) and exactly one S@H WU for my 3 day cache.

Not complaining mind you, both CPUs are flat out. Still, found it interesting.
2647) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update III - The Critter Cafe is Still Open (Message 1004746)
Posted 16 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
One of three bear encounters on the same day...


That's brave....


Being raised on the east slope of the Rockies, the missus and I are reasonably wise in the ways of bear. What you can't see in this picture is the long lens on my camera, and the doors open on the car right behind me.

We were told never run, Walk, predators will pursue someone who runs and that goes for Bears too, doubly so as their bigger than anything else that eats meat.


Absolutely. Also, avoid eye contact, bears take that personally.

Old bear joke, stop me if you've heard it. This was a black bear, relatively small. You can tell it is a black bear by breaking open its droppings, and finding bones from mice, rats, and small birds. You need to look out for grizzlies, the big brown ones. If you break open their droppings, you find buttons, belt buckles, and zippers.
2648) Message boards : Politics : Fraud on Welfare/Public Assistance (Message 1004743)
Posted 16 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This is not a problem for corporation because corporations don't die.


But shareholders do, and in this country the government can still get a good cut in most cases.
2649) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is only words. (Message 1004641)
Posted 16 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What we are talking about is culture.



I would have thought that most people would understand what Sellotape is. It has become synonymous with Hooover and Biro in the Western world.


I think it is culture. Your culture assumes everybody speaks English the same way you do. The Americans have the same short sightedness. I can assure you that using Hoover (for anything but a large dam), Sellotape and Biro anywhere in North America would usually be met with confused looks and maybe giggles. I know these terms myself, but only from years of watching Dr. Who and reading Michael Moorcock (I admit it - I'm a closet anglophile).

By the way, here are "local" translations of the terms you mention, for any confused North Americans:

Sellotape = scotch tape

Hoover = vacuum cleaner

Biro = ballpoint or Bic

Some Brit terms have come across the pond unchanged, like crapper. Canada probably has a few more that the yanks might not get, like pint and cuppa. But many terms have very different meanings over here (benny, local, muffin, tart), and some would just sound like a foreign language to many over here (sticky wicket, knock for six, bodge, nackered, nowt).
2650) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1004610)
Posted 16 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Proof that too much sun can cause wrinkles, even in the very young.
2651) Message boards : Number crunching : FEED ME! (Message 1004466)
Posted 15 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Reporting for those of us at the other end of the food chain:

Actually ran out of WUs sometime in the night, estimating about midnight. BOINC tried twice to get more work and was told "no work available". Finally downloaded a single WU at about 3:00 AM. My normal 3 day cache should be over 25 WUs. Just tried an "update project", and was told that BOINC was not requesting work. My sole WU should be complete in about 20 minutes, be interesting to see what happens then.

I have not seen the "100 WU limit" messages (obviously for my lowly machines), but something else is throttling downloads for me.

The last time I ran out of WUs was about two weeks ago (when I had selected "no new tasks" because I was on the road for a week, with intermittent Internet). When I turned downloads back on, I received WUs 2 or 3 at a time, every 10 or 20 minutes, until I had my normal stock of about 25.
2652) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is only words. (Message 1004450)
Posted 15 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
mmm...gravy...mmmm

Biscuits and gravy, plus deep fried pork fat, may prove to be America's greatest contribution to civilization.

You can keep the grits though. Disgusting stuff.
2653) Message boards : Politics : The Gulf Oil Spill (Message 1004449)
Posted 15 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
BP is owned by the Uk and USA being 40% Uk and 39% USA who owns the rest i have no idea? This is not just a Uk problem, maybe both countries should pay for the dissaster as greed seems to be the order of the day. Both countries are at fault, and the environment pays the price for the greed. Just my Opinion!


Not just the governments' problem. Their problem was in not regulating and monitoring BP. BP's problem was being reckless and unprepared. Lots of blame to go around. As most taxpayers, I object strongly to any suggestion that governments should pay more than their share of the corrective actions. BP has a big chunk of responsibility, and the cash to pay for it. They are not too big to fail.
2654) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is only words. (Message 1004276)
Posted 15 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As with Almonds, I would have to defer to the guy who grows 80+ acres of the things. While I might disagree.. They have a powerful argument that they know what they planted.


I'll use his pronunciation of pecans when he uses my pronunciation of about and house.

And this is how wars get started. Just kidding eh.
2655) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer from Around the World... (Message 1004249)
Posted 14 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
"I don't always drink beer but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis."

- the most uninteresting man in the world


On behalf of all the older gray-haired beer-swilling men in the world, I wish to protest. Sometimes, some of us are interesting. Sort of. When we can stay awake.
2656) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is only words. (Message 1004247)
Posted 14 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And how about "pecans"? Pronounced "PEE-kans" up here, "pa-KAWNS" down where they grow. In some small restaurants in the southern US they apparently really didn't know what I meant when I ordered PEE-can pie.
2657) Message boards : Technical News : No Work Issues (Jun 09 2010) (Message 1004244)
Posted 14 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Welcome to the Forums Fritz. for starters, the home page has, for a few days, had a message about a server crash, which generally brings everything to a grinding halt. Especially on the weekends.

When the Berkeley Gang gets things started again, the sideline stuff, like the publicly visible stats pages, is usually the last to get running again. Any results you may have sent in are still in Berkeley somewhere, maybe still being processed by the databases, and they will eventually show up on the stats pages. Just don't think of the stats pages as real-time.

Also, check the server status page, and read the Number Crunching Forum, and you will eventually learn how to "read" the status page. If the page doesn't load at all, things are bad. If it loads with lots of red and yellow, things are bad but probably getting better. Again, this is only sort-of real-time, check the time tags on the page to see how old the data is.

And welcome again to the fun world of the S@H Forums.
2658) Message boards : Number crunching : Wonderful, the upload server is disabled (Message 1004148)
Posted 14 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I still get not reporting or requesting tasks. I haven't seen the red messages yet today, but nothing downloads. I think I will have to upload my 29 units before anything happens.

Steve


I seem to recall that downloads are not allowed if you have more than 2 X number of CPUs in pending uploads.

Having said that, I see my pending uploads have all gone through, but no downloads yet. Should finish my last WU this evening.
2659) Message boards : Politics : Don't Buy British Petroleum (BP) (Message 1004143)
Posted 14 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think we all know, that in such a scenario, the 'legal eagles' and the so-called administrators would end up richer than their wildest dreams of avarice.


I hear you. But what choice do we have? Let the BPs of the world carry on their own merry way because the legal fees are high?

I don't think the 'knock-on' effect has been considered, in this.


Knock-on effect on anybody living and working on the Gulf has already begun. Knock-on effect on anybody living or working near the Atlantic is next. Knock-on effect on BPs suppliers and shareholders is just one of many issues.
2660) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (33) Server problems (Message 1004091)
Posted 14 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just had one of 15 pending go up. Still too many pending to download, and I will probably run out of crunchables in about 4 or 5 hours. It's down to the wire folks, will new WUs comne through in time? Film at eleven.
2661) Message boards : Politics : Don't Buy British Petroleum (BP) (Message 1004083)
Posted 14 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Taken to its extreme, if no one bought BP at all, not wholesalers or re-sellers or consumers of gasoline and other oil products, then BP's income would dry up and as a publicly owned company they would have to make some hard decisions about what to do to with their assets. At some point the company would have to declare bankrupcy, sell off their assets and shut down. If that happened, who would be responsible for the clean-up and compensation to individuals and businesses affected by this spill?


That's why we have bankruptcy courts. BP's creditors under legislation or regulatory fines or resulting from civil negligence move to the head of the list when it comes time to carve up the corpse.

A major, messy bankruptcy, with the traditional creditors like banks and major suppliers looking on helplessly as BP is cut up and fed to the masses, might be what we need to wake up the rest of the oil industry.

In any event, if we believe the BP CEO's public statements, thay have money in the bank right now to cover the cleanup costs. It would still be there if BP went bankrupt today. We just need to make sure the money is used for that, and not spirited away to the shareholders while nobody is watching.

Actually, something like Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection today would be in the public's interest. This would allow the courts to control how BP spends the money in the bank, and how they shuffle other assets to avoid liability.
2662) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Question of Disabilities (Message 1004044)
Posted 14 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think the people who bring up children are confusing disability and liability.

I still have one liability living at home, never considered either of them a disability.

But seriously, thanks to everyone for opening up in this thread. It all reminds me of how blessed I am, and how truly minor all my problems are.
2663) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - XXII (Message 1004018)
Posted 14 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:



So THAT'S where that cooing sound is coming from.
2664) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Workout/Weight Loss Thread (Message 1004015)
Posted 14 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My wife and her sister have had great success over the last few years with a gym called Curves. They offer programs just for women, and encourage their clients to start any any level of effort they feel comfortable with. They go out of the way to be non-competitive and non-judgemental. Their point is not to make you some body building freak, but just to make you a little better than you are now, and then keep up a gradual improvement. My wife has moved on to a "normal" gym, after building her confidence (and losing weight) at Curves.

When my wife said that the Curves model wouldn't work for guys because it it is non-competitive, I tried to bet her 10 bucks I could be just as non-competitive as she was. She wouldn't take me up on it.
2665) Message boards : Politics : Don't Buy British Petroleum (BP) (Message 1004012)
Posted 14 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The nature of the gasoline business today means that many of you can be sending money to BP without being aware of it. Each of the major oil companies operates several "profit centres". The production division sells crude to anybody who wants it. The refining branch buys crude from wherever, and then sells refined product wherever. As the earlier post said, the retailer buys from whatever refiner gives him a good deal at the time.

Not to let BP off the hook, but they just happened to be the first major producer to be this unlucky. It could be anybody next time. Our best bet in the long run is to apply pressure to ALL oil producers, by calling for stricter regulations and oversight, and to show our general dissatisfaction by buying less of EVERYBODY'S oil products.
2666) Message boards : Politics : Don't Buy British Petroleum (BP) (Message 1003981)
Posted 14 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Neither the British people nor the British government have any responsibility for what a private company got up to in the Gulf of Mexico.


Then who does have responsibility when a multi-national screws up like this? All of us pointing fingers at each other does no good. Shouldn't each country and each individual be doing everything they can to fix this mess, and prevent the next? If the UK government and people have any clout with BP, use it! If you tell me that no country or individual has any clout with a large multinational, then it is time to rethink how these organizations operate. A simple act of the UK parliament (or any other major world government) could change things very quickly.

As is usual with the tabloid press, they just want to find scapegoats and sell copy.


As much as I hate the yellow rags, they may be doing us a favour by stirring up public reaction.
2667) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather 2 (Message 1003980)
Posted 14 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
forecast of dust clouds, loud clanging noises, intermittent water shortages and big bills for the remainder of the week.

Just starting on a major bathroom overhaul, eager contractors arrived at 07:15 local.
2668) Message boards : Politics : who speaks for Earth ? (Message 1003764)
Posted 13 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All very thought provoking Byron. Being practical, I would ask clarification on two points first:

"Why does someone have to speak for earth?"

"By earth do you mean the current global (sort of) civilization, or the biomass/planet as a whole?"

Being a long time sci-fi fan, I will first assume you mean "Who does ET establish contact with?". This would depend on ET's intent. If they are here to "convert" us to some philosophy/religion, we are all screwed anyway so it doesn't really matter. If they are here for material gain, then they will speak to whomsoever benefits them. One could argue that this kind of ET would find it beneficial for us humans to be fragmented and argumentative. ET could then deal with us one by one, to their benefit. They might even promote the fragmentation, by helping along financial collapses, plagues, wars, etc.

Excuse me, have to go make a new tin foil hat now.
2669) Message boards : Politics : Should we shut SETI down? (Message 1003697)
Posted 13 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hellsheep, of course we have debt too, we just don't have a trillion dollars. Our government has managed to pay the interest and pay down the principal for 18 of the last 20 years. We expect to be back to that in another 2 years.

"Money", on the government scale, is really just an accounting aide, and the real value it has depends on the mutual agreement of everybody involved. Problems arise when a small number of banks, or governments, bend the unwritten rules to accumulate meaningless amounts in the short term, or to win votes by not raising taxes. If enough of them do that, then current money has no value and we will find a different way of trading.

I agree to some extent with the doomsayers that say things like bad mortgage loans and massive government debt may mean an end to money as we know it (and hopefully banks as we know them), but that doesn't mean a collapse of civilization. Just like civilization didn't collapse when we all went off the gold standard.

Question for the general readership: is your local press covering the proposed "bank tax" being discussed by the G8 and the G20? What is the local opinion on this?
2670) Message boards : Politics : Should we shut SETI down? (Message 1003688)
Posted 13 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
can i ask, is your house heated by electric, gas or government steam?


Gas, since we have so much of it up here. It all belongs to all the people. We let a few multinationals, and some local companies, collect and distribute it, but the government takes a nice big cut, for the benefit of all of us. That's part of the reason our banks didn't collapse last year, and why we don't have a trillion dollars national debt.
2671) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Luke (Message 1003594)
Posted 12 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Better late than never - happy birthday Luke.
2672) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 1003593)
Posted 12 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
On a business trip to France last summer I became addicted to a local chain of duck BBQ restaurants. I think it was called Courte Paille. They slow grill half a duck over a wood fire. It drips fat in a most spectacular fashion, now I understand why this worked.
2673) Message boards : Politics : Should we shut SETI down? (Message 1003275)
Posted 11 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
i'm a Marxist...of the Groucho variety.


All hail Lennon and Marx!!

(That's John and Groucho.)

RottenMutt, I chose to limit my S@H RAC to around 461. I live in a free country, you see. I actually get to chose from more than 2 parties at election time. Some of them are Socilist, but it's my choice.
2674) Message boards : Politics : Should we shut SETI down? (Message 1003127)
Posted 11 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Socialism has now been implemented at setiathome, great!


If you think that logical solutions developed and applied by people who really know a thing or two about the subject at hand is Socialism, then yeah, it's Socialism, and it's great.
2675) Message boards : Cafe SETI : this is why i have no money (Message 1003016)
Posted 11 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In college my staple was popcorn with lots of yeast


Does that ferment? You can make OK beer from just corn, you know.
2676) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer from Around the World... (Message 1003010)
Posted 11 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey Phud, that Fat Bastard is reasonably good value for the money, unlike most French wines these days. If that is taking up too much room, maybe I can help ...
2677) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer from Around the World... (Message 1002986)
Posted 11 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We have a couple of local microbreweries that make Belgium style beers up to about 14%. Under local laws, you can't call that beer, so they have to market it as "sparkling barley wine".
2678) Message boards : Cafe SETI : this is why i have no money (Message 1002971)
Posted 11 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But I bet had you worked in a Brewery you would still love beer...


I wonder. I grew up near a major candy factory (Nutty Club, for you Canucks). A lot of the locals worked there, and the story was that they were all allowed all they could eat, as long as they didn't actually take it home. Apparently everybody gave up on candy completely within a few weeks. Years later I heard exactly the same story about the Rogers Chocolate factory in BC.

Phud, my son went through the same thing working first at MacDonalds and then at the deli counter at a local grocery store. He is very picky about what he eats now. when you ask him why, he usually says "you don't want to know".
2679) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer from Around the World... (Message 1002965)
Posted 11 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here is a Forum with a slight difference. For one thing, people seem much more polite. ;)
2680) Message boards : Politics : Should we shut SETI down? (Message 1002944)
Posted 11 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Going to go out on a limb here, especially with this audience:

Maybe the guys at Berkeley are currently dealing with issues that affect the quantity and quality of science being done, and they really don't care about anybody's RAC, or whether or not your GPUS are running dry?

Going back to Hiamps original question, maybe the Berkeley mob has decided that some reduction in throughput right now has some greater benefit, and that is why they have introduced some form of rationing. I appreciate Hiamps is trying to help, but if the Berkeley guys decide the project needs to be throttled even further, they can do it very easily from their end.

For now, I'm going to pretend I'm one of the 80% of S@H users who never read these forums, and just let my machine crunch (or not crunch, as the Berkeley Boffins see fit).
2681) Message boards : Politics : Should we shut SETI down? (Message 1002934)
Posted 11 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm agreeing with Sten-Arne. All normal here, apart from the red message about "invalid ap version description". WUs download, crunch, then upload. My pending is climbing above normal, but this happens from time to time. My 3 day cache was nearly dry a few day ago, but is working back up to normal now.

BTW, I am using Lunatics optimized aps, but only for CPUs.

Just an observation: some combinations of WU and application may be causing local problems, but BOINC and S@H are designed to eventually catch and correct these kinds of issues. Maybe we should let everything go on, including the problems (wherever and whatever they really are). Can't fix the bugs until we can see them. And we may need to see quite a few before they are understood and corrected. I don't mean to slag any software or anybody with that statement, just saying Those Who Fix Things need data.
2682) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 2 (Message 1002891)
Posted 11 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wish I was PUNNY enough to join in on the Friday night "war", but I'm not.


Ah, the rare meta-pun.
2683) Message boards : Cafe SETI : this is why i have no money (Message 1002777)
Posted 11 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A much-missed participant in this forum once told me that a good man's wallet has a picture of his children where his money used to be.


A local bumper sticker, living close to U of Western Ontario:

My kids and my money go to Western
2684) Message boards : Cafe SETI : i need (Message 1002761)
Posted 11 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All right, a built in designated driver!

I would add to Steve's list: popping a really good CD into the player, putting your feet up, and slowly slipping into oblivion. I'm off, see you later.


And cheers to all, again.
2685) Message boards : Cafe SETI : i need (Message 1002759)
Posted 11 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just chugged a cold Moosehead, after mowing the lawn. Now, I'm sipping a nice chilled Pinot Grecio. Here's to you, gang.
2686) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Question of the week (Message 1002629)
Posted 10 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Try it, you won't fall over (unless you're really drunk)

I tried it..... I fell over.


But I bet you didn't spill anything.

Steve


Bazinga.
2687) Message boards : Cafe SETI : i need (Message 1002622)
Posted 10 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Okaayyy.

1 x geeky coffee
1 x semi skimmed milk
3 x Hermasetas

Why didn't you say so ?

semi-skimmed is the same as 2%? OK. That explains a lot.

I'm still learning the language here. I still can't bring myself to call trousers pants (it just sounds so wrong!), but I have learned to call my shopping trolley a shopping cart.

What no pantaloons? ;)


Or bloomers?
2688) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Question of the week (Message 1002621)
Posted 10 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But if the duck still floats, it is made of wood. And if it is made of wood, then therefore ....



IT'S A WITCH!


BURN HER!!!

PS: Who are you sir, to be so wise in the ways of science?
2689) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things I've set out to get done by about October 2012 (Message 1002578)
Posted 10 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If you are very careful about who you marry, you won't need a job.

I'm still working on that one myself.
2690) Message boards : Cafe SETI : this is why i have no money (Message 1002569)
Posted 10 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Now, I'm really confuddled here.

1. do-si-do is a basic country dance step
2. Girls are Guides or Brownies NOT scouts
3. What on earth have peanut butter sandwiches to do with anything?

Answers on the back of a £50 note to PO box 99 London UK.


1. Do-si-dos are also highly nutrious health food. Just keep repeating that over and over, and we'll all feel better.

2. Guides are Scouts in the US, due to the fact that they don't speak real proper English, like what we do.

3. Peanut butter - food of the gods. Peanut butter sandwiches - for the god in a hurry.

Girl Scout cookies, like Girl Guide cookies in the civilized world, are made using only the freshest of Girl Scouts.
2691) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Question of the week (Message 1002511)
Posted 10 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Try it, you won't fall over (unless you're really drunk)

I tried it..... I fell over.



See?
2692) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Question of the week (Message 1002500)
Posted 10 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I am certain that it could compensate and swim where ever it wanted to. However, it could not fly. I know (I've done it to my down ducks) that simply clipping the tip of one of its wing feathers will prevent flight due to the un-even lift. If you clip both it can fly again. The loss of a leg would result in a change in the center of gravity so it would prevent flight.


Beg to differ old chap. Many years ago a group of people at a hanger I was working in "adopted" a one legged seagull, feeding it regularly on their breaks. It flew very well, thank you. Landings were a bit lacking in grace, but functional.

The centre of gravity of any living creature is constantly changing (mostly due to moving limbs, and digestive processes we won't dwell upon further). In order to fly, it is necessary to have an appropriate relationship between the resultant lift force and said c. of g. Birds are masters of fine tuning the size and direction of their lift vector, and would compensate for this shift in c. of g. with no more effort than you need to compensate for your c. of g. shift if you wave an arm while walking. Try it, you won't fall over (unless you're really drunk),and you are not aware of the minor changes in your leg muscles that make it all possible.
2693) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - #21 (Message 1002498)
Posted 10 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Harry Potter traded in his broom ...
2694) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Question of the week (Message 1002295)
Posted 9 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But if the duck still floats, it is made of wood. And if it is made of wood, then therefore ....
2695) Message boards : Number crunching : new error message (Message 1002124)
Posted 9 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For now I'm treating this a minor annoyance, not as a problem. My regular project updates continue, WUs are downloaded, crunched and reported. I just get the same message each time I communicate with S@H.

09/06/2010 9:09:24 AM SETI@home Message from server: Invalid app version description

BTW, my results status all report as "Anonymous platform", even ones awarded points after these messages started.
2696) Message boards : Number crunching : new error message (Message 1001937)
Posted 8 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Pardon me if this was addressed before, but ...

Just upgraded to BOINC 6.10.56, which may or may not have caused this. On my first S@H update after this week's outrage, received this message:

08/06/2010 7:04:08 PM SETI@home Message from server: Invalid app version description

All completed tasks appear to have uploaded normally, and stats updated about as expected. Should I be concerned?
2697) Message boards : Number crunching : Hey It's Tuesday!!! (Message 1001927)
Posted 8 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey - outages come, and outages go. Whatya going to do about them, that what I want to know.

With apologies to Paul Simon.
2698) Message boards : Number crunching : Miss you Ned, where did you go? (Message 1001770)
Posted 8 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
... there's a real world beyond what's posted here.


Illogical. Does not compute. Please explain.
2699) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - #21 (Message 1001246)
Posted 6 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This new skin conditioner is not working right.
2700) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - #21 (Message 1000782)
Posted 5 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I was just minding my own business, when suddenly this pool of water changed lanes ....
2701) Message boards : Cafe SETI : KIttyman at a crossroads...part II. (Message 1000666)
Posted 4 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Got all my fingers crossed for you Mark. Try to listen to the doctor, and do what he/she tells you to do. I know that is hard, especially these days when all the doctors are younger than we are.
2702) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It may be hard to explain BOINC ;-) (Message 1000147)
Posted 2 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ah yes, having to deal with the uninformed is always a problem. I assume you find the machine very slow with BOINC not running? In that case, turn BOINC off, and disable auto startup, and then take the machine into a repair shop. When they are not blinded by BOINC they may see something.

Not sure where you are exactly, but I have a friend in Tampere that is seriously into computers, and could probably recommend a good shop.
2703) Message boards : Technical News : June Update (Jun 02 2010) (Message 1000146)
Posted 2 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thank you Matt, and please tell Dan thanks too.
2704) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is Australia (Message 999977)
Posted 2 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Most animals seem to be attracted to fermented food, naturally occuring or otherwise. Back in the early 1980s I lived on the edge of a large city, and home brewed fruit wine in my basement. The residue of the primary fermentation was dumped over my back fence into the adjacent wood lot. This always attracted a number of birds, of several different species. After a few hours the pile of residue would be surrounded by staggering birds, often fighting over the remains. It always reminded me of closing time at the bar.
2705) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update III - The Critter Cafe is Still Open (Message 999921)
Posted 2 Jun 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Gandalf!?!


Well, at one point, I'm pretty sure he did say "you shall not pass".
2706) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update III - The Critter Cafe is Still Open (Message 999725)
Posted 31 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Next critter pics:

A small group of mountain sheep. They were fairly calm, but the old male always stayed between us and the rest of the flock.



There were two new lambs with the group, but they always kept to the rear, and I never got a good shot of them.



2707) Message boards : Politics : The Gulf Oil Spill (Message 999687)
Posted 31 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not to belittle the problems in the Gulf, but ...

Remember the good old days, when everyone complained that the Alberta oil sands MIGHT be an environmental problem some day?
2708) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update III - The Critter Cafe is Still Open (Message 999675)
Posted 31 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just back from a week in deepest darkest Alberta. Sorry I missed the "give us a caption", but it looks like it all worked out OK. Anyway, took a number of serious critter photos while there (serious critters that is, not necessarily serious photos). Here is the first, will upload some more when time permits.



One of three bear encounters on the same day, but all my other bear photos are the south end of a north bound bear. This is as it should be. The second bear of the day seemed way too interested in us, and I didn't get any photos of it. This was partly due to my inability to run and shoot at the same time, and partly due to my wife's repeated cries of "getbacktothecarNOW".
2709) Message boards : Politics : The kittyman is at a crossroads......... (Message 997405)
Posted 20 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As someone who has worn big thick nerdy bottle bottom glasses since 1966, I would just like to point out that they make one look intelligent, and distinguished. Especially when combined with a beard and moustache.

The fact that I can actually see things now is just a bonus. 8<)>

And concerning cataract surgery - my dog had it several years ago, and has never complained.
2710) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - #21 (Message 997348)
Posted 20 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
His partner for the pas de deux is REALLY nervous right now.
2711) Message boards : Politics : The kittyman is at a crossroads......... (Message 997347)
Posted 20 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All I can add is best wishes for you Mark, whichever route you choose. As another poster said, you can't find ET (or drive your cars) without some eyesight. This kind of choice reminds me of one of my favorite bumper stickers - "getting old isn't for sissies".

Whatever you choose, I hope you hang around the forums. You always keep things interesting. I suspect you will still keep things interesting, even if your RAC falls to the level of us mere mortals.
2712) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 997314)
Posted 20 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why crunch this project, if you don't believe in it.


Because you are a troll?
2713) Message boards : Number crunching : What's with Astropulse (or is it just me) (Message 996970)
Posted 18 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have "ask for AP only, then get other WUs if none available" in my settings. I probably get well under 1 in 100 APs. They definitely come in bunches: I'll get one a day for two or three days, then nothing for a few weeks. I'm averaging about 12 MB WUs a day.
2714) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sure has changed alot... (Message 996934)
Posted 18 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Based on watching my parents and my in-laws, being a grand parent is a snap. You get the kid all jacked up on sugar, rough play, and expensive gifts, and then drive away.
2715) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Positive Thoughts Requested (Message 996933)
Posted 18 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The good news Blurf is that you have a better idea what the problem is, and can proceed from there. All my best wishes, and my full sympathies on back pain. Been there, since the last century.

And codeine can be fun, as long as you don't have to do anything complicated. Like thinking.
2716) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Positive Thoughts Requested (Message 996732)
Posted 17 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Positive thoughts in process...

My daughter and my wife have both had stones, it appears to be at least partially genetic. Very painful, but they do go away or can be removed with minimal invasive surgery. Drinking more water seems to have helped both of them avoid further problems.
2717) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (32) Server problems (Message 996713)
Posted 17 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
22 units reported from my machine and they just seem to have disappeared. No credit for them and there are 41 tasks in progress when looking at that machine it actually only has 14 units


Every time servers crash and then get overloaded on re-start all my statistics and status reports go a little weird. Your results are probably rattling around in the system somewhere. If they don't show up in a few days THEN you can get worried.
2718) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 2 (Message 996525)
Posted 15 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Careful James, Angela will run rings around you on this one. Consider this warning a Tolkien of my esteem for you.
2719) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 2 (Message 996497)
Posted 15 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, all's wool that ends wool, I always say. Alas, I will be on the road next Friday, in my new lamb-orghini, so I must pass the task to someone else in out fellowsheep of the pun. Discuss it amongst yourselves, I'm sure that when the sheep hits the fan you will flock together to find a new topic.
2720) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - #21 (Message 996496)
Posted 15 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Please please please read the part about the mountain of raw hamburger again!
2721) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (32) Server problems (Message 996320)
Posted 15 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I just had a few go up, and the Kitty Man reports a few up-bound also, in the other thread about uploads. The proverbial light at the end of the proverbial tunnel?
2722) Message boards : Number crunching : Uploads failing?? (Message 996313)
Posted 15 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

I guess there really is a difference between academia and the real world.


The main difference is that we are here to help the academics, when they need it and can use it. S@H and BOINC are not services to keep you amused/occupied.
2723) Message boards : Number crunching : Uploads failing?? (Message 996310)
Posted 15 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just had 3 upload, all on their own. Something is clearing up. Thanks to whoever or whatever arranged that.

PS: I was joking about the Retry Now button.
2724) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 2 (Message 996242)
Posted 14 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm knot up on my knitting terms, so wool it be OK if I go back to the original source (he asked sheepishly)? Mutton better to do, so would ewe mind? I might get away with this, if the moderators are asheep at the wheel. I could probably ram a few through in that case.

Nah, they will want to keep it all sheep shape, and set the fuzz on me. I better take it on the lamb, before I get clipped.
2725) Message boards : Number crunching : Uploads failing?? (Message 996240)
Posted 14 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Patience???? LOLOLOL... in this "everything instant" society, patience is a fast fading form of respect.


I think my Retry Now button is busted. I keep pushing it and pushing it and pushing it and pushing and it pushing it and pushing it and pushing it and pushing it and pushing it and pushing it and pushing it and pushing it.
2726) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - #21 (Message 996195)
Posted 14 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Baggage from Flight 123 is now available at .. wait, that can't be right!
2727) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit Help (Message 996057)
Posted 13 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You can use credits to keep track of changes in your crunching technique, or hardware. More credits means you're doing something right.
2728) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How Rich are you? (Message 996039)
Posted 13 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
IMHO, its all just a number game. We need to do something like looking at after tax income, after fixed expenses like minimum food, clothing, shelter and health care, and then converting left over money into something tangible - like how many pounds of good quality steel you could buy per day, delivered to where you are located. (You may not actually need any good quality steel, but it would be a meaningful comparative indication of purchasing power, corrected for your local circumstances.)

To put it another way, $50,000 per year is a decent amount if you live on and own a productive farm near a mid sized town in Canada (and qualify for local health care), but its hardly anything if you are renting in downtown Tokyo, depend on prescription drugs, and don't have health insurance. A well fed healthy hunter gatherer who sells a few pelts might be just as rich as you or me.

Years ago I saw a list of how long a person had to work to buy one days worth of food, broken down by country. Ranged from a few minutes in North America to all day in large parts of the world. I think that was much more meaningful.
2729) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather 2 (Message 995818)
Posted 12 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Cold and wet. Worst of all, the local asparagus crop has been wiped out by 2 nights of frost.
2730) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (32) Server problems (Message 995224)
Posted 10 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Downloaded two new WUs about 30 minutes ago. Just plain luck I guess.
2731) Message boards : Number crunching : It was a bittersweet 1 1/2 years.. (Message 994742)
Posted 8 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I know electronics guys don't like to hear this, but when electronics fail it is usually, at the bottom level, a mechanical failure. Something moves or changes shape inside the chip or on the pcb, and the electrical path is destroyed or changed. This happens because of vibration, shock or thermal cycles, and all this movement is more likely to break or bend things at higher temperatures. Metals and plastics are generally weaker at temperatures much above 30 or 40 C, and this weakness increases as the temperature increases.

So, it may run for a while at 70C or even 100C, maybe even for years. But it will run longer at 50 or 60C.
2732) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET'S Give Us A Caption - #21 (Message 994578)
Posted 7 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can't see it in your message, but I can see the picture when I cut asnd paste the link into a new tab. Maybe that site blocks linking to their pictures?

Not being familiar with American copyright law, I don't know if it would be legal to save the picture to your own computer, and then post a copy on something like Flickr or Photolink. Just sayin'.
2733) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Star Wars Day! (Message 994471)
Posted 6 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It has been pointed out to me since, that the sound I heard would have been absent in the vacuum of space . . .


[geek_mode]

Yes but ...

If you were watching from the point of view on the movie, you would presumably be inside some type of space vessel/life support device/whatever. When the Imperial cruiser passed so close, it would be emitting electromagnetic waves, gravity waves, and waves we have not heard of yet in prodigious quantities. you could expect this to interfere with the systems on your little vessel, and produce all sort of noises and other interesting/scary/awe inspiring effects.

[/geek_mode]
2734) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update III - The Critter Cafe is Still Open (Message 994113)
Posted 5 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Dog cafes can be started with much lower overhead. First, get a few pounds of week old ground beef ...
2735) Message boards : Number crunching : It was a bittersweet 1 1/2 years.. (Message 993919)
Posted 4 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
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I've been crunching on a laptop for 2 years now, 24/7 except when I travel on business. Before that I crunched on an old desktop for about 5 years, again 24/7. (That one is still running). The key, I think, is in controlling heat. Get any good free CPU temperature monitor (like Speedfan), look up your CPU chip specs online, and keep a good solid margin below the rated temp. For the laptop, that means throttling BOINC CPU usage to 85%, regular cleaning of the fan inlet and outlet, and two pencil stubs under the back of the laptop case, to create a decent airflow path into the fan inlet. The pencils alone are good for about 15C lower temps. I'm thinking of patenting it, and marketing it as a low cost cooling add on.

For the old desktop, it just means regular cleaning. That, and an outstanding RAC of nearly 200 from its old single processor, keeps the heat down.
2736) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather 2 (Message 993497)
Posted 2 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another typical spring day, showers on and off, high about 20C. Perfect weather for pulling dandelions. Our local government's ban on most herbicides is really showing its ugly side this spring.
2737) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XX (Message 993340)
Posted 1 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Waiter, I've spilt my drink.
2738) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 2 (Message 993222)
Posted 1 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry to be late, but business travel got in the whey. Like they say, absence makes the heart grow fondue. Curd to me that I should wade in anyway, as what I've read so far just makes me cheddar. Looks like a real muenster of a topic. Too bad it is over though, a feta accompli so to speak. We have a real Krafty bunch on this thread. I wonder what will happen when we goat to the next topic?

PS: isn't it amazing how many cheese varieties you can find with Google?
2739) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update III - The Critter Cafe is Still Open (Message 993221)
Posted 1 May 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
That is a very well fed raccoon!
2740) Message boards : Number crunching : Switching to CP.net - wish me luck! (Message 992426)
Posted 28 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But KPN can put their masts just about anywhere, while Rotterdam can change the street first and worry about those pesky light-masts later on... ;-)


Very amusing. We had a similar situation here a few years ago, when a nearby street was widened. The various work crews got their schedules mixed up, and the extra pavement was added before the power poles were moved. For about a month we had three power poles a meter into the street. With nice warning signs on each one.
2741) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The song you never tire of (Message 992294)
Posted 27 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Tried your link, and the first song I hear is IGY by Donald Fagen. I already really like this radio station.
2742) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How can I possibly explain this? (Message 992212)
Posted 27 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is it just me, or did anybody else feel it a little strange when they discovered that the Microsoft Word spell checker contains the correct spelling of Gallifrey, but can't get colour right?
2743) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The song you never tire of (Message 992195)
Posted 27 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
One I listen to over and over again, from a CD that I listen to over and over again...

Again, no great graphics. but some fine guitar, bass and vocals.
2744) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun 2 (Message 991480)
Posted 23 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well nothing erupts to mind right away. You may have to ash someone else. I'm staring at my lava lamp, and can't come up with anything. My mind has gone dormant. I could call up the craterers, but then I eat too much and need milk of magma-nesia.
2745) Message boards : Cafe SETI : $300-------three hunert bucks!!! (Message 991138)
Posted 22 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
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My last electricity bill was $128.36 (Canadian) per month. That is about as low as it gets. In the next few months the pool pump and the A/C will drive that up about 50%.

Of course, I'm just running 2 little crunchers. I suspect my son draws more power for his desktop (games), laptop (school), X-Box, phone charger, I-pod charger, etc.
2746) Message boards : Number crunching : Question on High Priority Mode (Message 991072)
Posted 22 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm still not convinced it is broken, just because it doesn't work the way you want it too. Is anybody who hasn't messed with their DCF missing deadlines?
2747) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XX (Message 990990)
Posted 22 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:



Thaths the lash time I drain the empty - hic - bottles in YER garbage.
2748) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . C'est la vie (Message 990986)
Posted 22 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
.. say the old folks. It just goes to show you never can tell.
2749) Message boards : Cafe SETI : anyone play the lottery? (Message 990761)
Posted 21 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A million just isn't what it used to be.


A case in point, from some research I've recently completed on Canadian military procurement scandals, 1931 style.

The government had purchased a number of DH.80 aircraft in April 1931, and a significant flaw was alleged a few months later. Debate raged over who's fault it was. (From 80 years later it looks like mostly bad luck.) The manufacturer agreed to repairs at cost, and the leading papers of the day blew up when they found out the vast sums involved. Headlines of the day were all about government inefficiency, squandered tax dollars, kick backs and bribes alleged, etc. Just take today's paper and insert "DH.80" every once in a while.

The outrageous cost: $18.72 per plane in most cases, up to a staggering $262 in one case.
2750) Message boards : Number crunching : Question on High Priority Mode (Message 990756)
Posted 20 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
None of my tasks are liable to miss there deadlines, but that is not really the point.


Then what is the point of High Priority Mode?

One scenario would be if a host lost power for a few days, then the VHAR tasks with their 14 day deadline could be in trouble if the host had a 10 day cache.


Right. That is exactly what happens to me quite regularly. My main cruncher is my lap top. When I work from home it may run 24 hours a day for a few weeks, with my cache filling up based on this. Then when I travel on business it may average only a few hours every other day for a week or two. That, plus running multiple projects with different ideas of what a "sensible" deadline is, means I go into Priority Mode quite often. Haven't missed a deadline in years, that I recall.

My point is that, as far as I can tell, Priority Mode is what does this, even if its detailed workings aren't what we expect. If somebody is regularly missing deadlines, then we can complain to the programmers.

By the way, most sources recommend shorter caches than 10 days. I'm sure there is some cache size that blows the Priority Mode assumptions, but that isn't a reason to change Priority Mode. It is a reason to change your cache size. The programmers have to cater to a number of users "styles", not just the extremes.
2751) Message boards : Number crunching : Question on High Priority Mode (Message 990698)
Posted 20 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
None of my tasks are liable to miss there deadlines, but that is not really the point.


Then what is the point of High Priority Mode?
2752) Message boards : Number crunching : Question on High Priority Mode (Message 990643)
Posted 20 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The basic question remains: are tasks missing deadlines because of the behaviour you have noted? None of mine are.

Or to put it in terms of software requirements: is the goal of High Priority Mode to do the closest deadlines first, or to minimize the number of WUs that miss deadlines? Those are two different requirements.
2753) Message boards : Number crunching : Question on High Priority Mode (Message 990502)
Posted 19 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
this is the task with the HIGHEST PRIORITY, it is due in less than 9 days.
But


I believe the "priority" goes to the project, not to the task. If you are only running one project, "priority" just means FIFO may not get things done in time, so priority is assigned to a subset of your tasks that may be in jeopardy.

In the end, the real question is do the tasks get done on time, after switching to priority mode. If the answer is yes, it is working.
2754) Message boards : Number crunching : Question on High Priority Mode (Message 990455)
Posted 19 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My understanding is that the calculation of when to enter High Priority mode is very conservative. The scenario you describe is very unlikely, as High Priority mode is entered when there is a slim chance of any WU not completing on time unless all of that project's WUs get high priority. Given that, any code that picks within the projects for "most panicked" jobs would be a waste of time to create, and just another possible source of bugs.

For me, Milky Way regularly kicks in to panic mode every time it downloads a new batch of work. After a few hours, it all goes back to normal. I never get anywhere near actually missing a deadline, even though my laptop may be turned off at irregular intervals when I travel.
2755) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . anybody feel that quake? (Message 990439)
Posted 19 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, a very fine layer on the cars in the morning. The ash is more like talcum powder.

That is exactly what I recall from Mt. St. Helens.

Some good news at last - air space to the North of the UK can reopen tomorrow. Well, parts of Scotland & NI that is.


The on-line radar trackers show lots of commercial flights in Sweden and Norway, and a few from Finland. Also, several flights between points south overflying southern France, Switzerland, and Germany. Plus, two Icelandic Airlines flights heading across Norway, presumably going home!
2756) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . anybody feel that quake? (Message 990393)
Posted 19 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The engine manufacturers will tell you that any ash is too much. It may not cause immediate problems, but it will decrease the useful life of the engine, and increase maintenance costs over the long run. It takes very large concentrations to shut down an engine, but the decision on whether or not to fly in very low concentrations is more economic than safety.

Ash is being collected right now in the air over Finland, Iceland, the UK and Ireland (that I know of). The aircraft being used are a mixture of military aircraft and government operated survey aircraft. The equipment needed is widely available, and has been in use and under constant development since at least the 1920s. The military gathering devices were first developed in the late 1940s to gather airborne radioactive material in extremely small amounts. The government aircraft are using equipment developed to track pollutants, and again they can find and quantify very small amounts.

Satellite tracking is being used to determine the spread rate of the clouds, but it cannot give accurate information on density of the ash. I'm not sure at what density value the satellite data loses the cloud, but you will need air samples to find the extreme edges of the cloud.

What I don't see (and I hope this is just lack of knowledge on my part) is any meaningful sharing of this information to provide timely maps of where the ash is, and at what concentrations. This is the information needed to give a go or no-go to the airlines.

With some of the previous eruptions over the Pacific and Indian oceans, it was relatively non-upsetting to just block off a large chunk of airspace for a few months, until all this data could be collected and analyzed. People just flew around it. Shutting down 25,000 flights a day over western and northern Europe is another thing all together. We will have to find a way to collect, process, and disseminate data in a much more timely fashion. Hopefully this will serve as a wake up call to all involved.

To show what "all involved" might soon mean, the Canadian government is forecasting shutting down airspace over Newfoundland soon, as a branch of the ash cloud spreads west. The US north-east is just a little farther.
2757) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The song you never tire of (Message 990374)
Posted 19 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good choice Angela. Here is a version I love, like all of Tomita's work from this time.
2758) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . anybody feel that quake? (Message 990373)
Posted 19 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This is troubling. While the airlines are pushing to get airspace re-opened: http://wsmweather.co.uk/?p=4577 - More planes suffer engine damage.


My sources say these aircraft were in eastern Europe, and the damage occurred mid last week, same time as the Finnish incidents. From the Finnish government web sites, the damage was detectable, and requires repair, but did not result in any power loss during the flight. This is a long way from the Indonesian incident several years ago where a 747 had to shut down all 4 engines, although the press keeps dragging that story up.

The problem is (according to other sources) that EU traffic control reacted to these early incidents, and forecasts of the ash distribution, and has not been looking at actual data on where the ash is right now, and how thick it is.

Any ash visible in your area Andy? I was living in BC when Mt. St. Helens blew up back in the 1970s, and for a few days we had traces of ash falling on everything.
2759) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CAR RACING 2010 !!! (Message 990287)
Posted 18 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Button is ahead by 10 points at this very early stage of the F1 season.

Still all up for grabe


10 points is not very much under the new points scheme. Right now there are 6 other drivers who could pass Button with one win.
2760) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . anybody feel that quake? (Message 990177)
Posted 18 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've just seen two aircraft flying over, both single engined Cessna type. Maybe a sign that higher flights may be allowed soon.


Flight in uncontrolled airspace was never cancelled, although most EU controlled airports were closed. Little neigbourhood grass strips were able to make their own decisions. I see that in the last few minutes parts of Europe are opening higher airspace, about FL250 in some places. This will help out aircraft still operating between North America and South-East Europe or the Middle East.
2761) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CAR RACING 2010 !!! (Message 990172)
Posted 18 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Please Schumi go home. We Ferrari fans do not enjoy for your current standings.


I felt a little embarrassed for the old guy watching the race this morning. Do you think maybe he just needs the money?
2762) Message boards : Cafe SETI : First mowing of the season..... (Message 990170)
Posted 18 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have an electric lawn mower though, which will probably baffle most of our American friends ;)


I had an electric mower for years, but the wife made me get rid of it when we bought a house with a pool. She freaked out the first time she saw me drag the cord through the pool, even though I tried to explain double insulation, ground fault breakers, and grounding paths to her.
2763) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update III - The Critter Cafe is Still Open (Message 990166)
Posted 18 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This county actually has a Squirrel control phone number...


Come on, how is a squirrel going to use a phone?
2764) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . anybody feel that quake? (Message 990164)
Posted 18 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Some European airlines have received permission to re-position aircraft around Holland and Germany, without passengers, and they are finding no ash in the air. Norway has opened at least one airport, on an hour-by-hour basis, and Germany is considering doing the same. The EU government, meanwhile, has decided to convene a number of experts real soon, who will decide how to form a committee that will look into the criteria to be used to re-open their airspace. Careful guys, wouldn't want to rush into anything.
2765) Message boards : Cafe SETI : First mowing of the season..... (Message 990102)
Posted 18 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I was all set for a first mowing this weekend, but we had a bit of snow Saturday morning, turning into rain later in the day. Heartbroken, I retired to the computer with a glass of sherry, forced to do not much else for the rest of the weekend. Sigh.
2766) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . anybody feel that quake? (Message 989744)
Posted 17 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And from a friend who speaks Icelandic: an Icelandic web site has published a "ransom letter" saying something like "leave 20 billion Euros in a paper bag behind the Icelandic embassy, and we'll turn off the volcano."
2767) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . anybody feel that quake? (Message 989555)
Posted 16 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My daughter is visiting friends in the UK this week, due to come home next week. On the phone yesterday she said she is actually looking forward to calling in to work with a classic excuse for showing up late. It will be interesting to see how long it takes the air travel system to get over this little hiccup.
2768) Message boards : Cafe SETI : anyone play the lottery? (Message 989553)
Posted 16 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
How many million do they need? I'd be happy with one million.


A quote from a movie many years ago, can't think of the name right now:

"Everybody wants a little more."

The bum living in the park wants a longer bench to sleep on, the guy with 10 million dollars/euros/pounds wants 20 million. I think this is hardwired into us, and there is no getting around it. This is probably a good thing. Without it, we'd all be happy still huddled around a fire in a cave.
2769) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update III - The Critter Cafe is Still Open (Message 989546)
Posted 16 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Cats are rapidly falling down my favourite animals list.


Careful there WinterKnight, there are some seriously non-rational cat fanciers around here. But I hear what you're saying.
2770) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why today's kids are messed up (Message 989480)
Posted 16 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Actually, the South Park treatment of Canada is funded and directed by the Canadian government, to distract the you-alls from what is REALLY going on.

I have to go now. There is a Mountie at my door.
2771) Message boards : Cafe SETI : anyone play the lottery? (Message 989478)
Posted 16 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In Canada, the polite term for "dumb tax" is "voluntary tax". I find I play more when I'm depressed. A few dollars a week can cheer me up, and that's much cheaper (and less bad health effects) than some alternatives. Business has been good, I think I've bought exactly one $2 ticket so far this year. (Didn't win anything, by the way.)

My mother-in-law has been playing the same numbers for over 20 years, some combination of the grand kids' birthdays, and she claims she is breaking even. Statistically that is a little hard to believe. Still, she has promised me a cut of The Big One if she wins, so I'm not going to argue with her.

I look on lotteries the same way I do on betting on the horses - it is entertainment, and if you feel you were entertained enough, it is money well spent. There are always a few people who can't control it, and they wind up in trouble. Same with booze, fried foods, collecting anything, etc. Like Aristotle said, moderation in all things.
2772) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update III - The Critter Cafe is Still Open (Message 989411)
Posted 15 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
and we just have a few loser males hanging around.

I know just how they feel.


I can just imagine the conversation:

So, whatya wanna do today?

I dunno, what you wanna do?

Hey, lets hang out over at Walker's pool!
2773) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XX (Message 989410)
Posted 15 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:



Hmm.... needs ketchup.
2774) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update III - The Critter Cafe is Still Open (Message 989322)
Posted 15 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Time to take the pool cover off, I guess. Every spring we get a few pairs of ducks that meet up in our pool, and then move off. We know spring is over when the females are all paired up, and we just have a few loser males hanging around.

2775) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #113 James Sotherden wins! (Message 989176)
Posted 14 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
They're just out to kill the gray ones, which are not native to the UK but were introduced by some loon. Sort of like starlings or zebra mussels over here.

Still, given the typical British frugality, and their obvious tolerance for bad food, I'm surprised that nobody is proposing to eat them. That has been seriously suggested here to control the urban goose and duck population. There are some city parks where you can't take peaceful walk anymore with upsetting a flock of geese. They can get nasty when upset.
2776) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update III - The Critter Cafe is Still Open (Message 989172)
Posted 14 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Actually, it is the extremely rare tri-polar bear.

As in tri-pod?

Well, I thought it was funny.
2777) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XX (Message 988600)
Posted 12 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:



Cornflakes? I didn't see any cornflakes.
2778) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun (Message 988395)
Posted 11 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I expect the response for measles will be pretty spotty.
2779) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun (Message 988324)
Posted 11 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I vote for chickenpox. Just a poultry contribution, I know. But it could be egg-xactly what we need. Don't run around like a chicken with your head cut off, and don't fly the coop. Like birds of a feather, we can lay down some finger-lickin' good ones with this topic. Chick chick hurray, I say. Strut your stuff people.

Maybe we can even encourage Misfit to contribute some breasts and thighs.
2780) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun (Message 987861)
Posted 10 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So where is Jim tonight? Is he arriving fashionably LATE?


Maybe he got de cease and desist order...
2781) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun (Message 987855)
Posted 10 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm dead sure this topic will work, although it may be tomb-uch for some deadbeats. Of corpse, if somebody else has a better idea, we could give it a try. We could even bring an old topic back from the dead. I know, I know, some of you are dead set against it, but it wouldn't kill you to try, would it? No need to blow a casket over a little suggestion.

So, the die is cast. Until tommorrow, it was nice tomb-eat you.
2782) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XX (Message 987758)
Posted 9 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


It got great gas mileage, but it was squashed by the tire industry.
2783) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guilty Little Pleasures (Message 987756)
Posted 9 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Urgent message for KenzieB:

I don't know if you have Laura Secord stores at your end of the country, but around here they just marked all their left over Easter chocolate 50% off.

This includes the bunnies.
2784) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather 2 (Message 987714)
Posted 9 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I wish to register a compliant.

It is snowing. On the bloody 9th of friggin' April. This is clearly unacceptable. Who do I see about this?

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 10:13 AM EDT Friday 9 April 2010
Condition: Light Snow Pellets
Pressure: 101.2 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 1.0°C
Dewpoint: -4.5°C
Humidity: 69 %
Wind: W 21 km/h
2785) Message boards : Number crunching : Do computers have personalities (Message 987678)
Posted 9 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
IMHO:

Very complex machines, like computers, may have vary small variations in the behaviour of individual components, and in the interactions of the components. Even though two machines may be identical "models" or "part numbers", they will have small variations in their performance and in their interaction with humans.

Us humans have (so I'm told) spent several hundred thousand years evolving the way we deal with the complex and subtly varying humans around us. This has given us a whole way of thinking and a vocabulary to deal with the personalities we meet every day. Complex machines, on the other hand, have only been with us for one or two hundred years. When we meet the little variations in behaviour of these complex machines, it is very easy to use the "personality model" to describe and discuss the variations.

I've spent 35+ years testing and measuring complex machines, everything from airplanes and helicopters to construction machinery and city buses. I learned early on that the people who work daily with these machines often talk about their personalities, and usually with some basis. Time and time again I find myself in a hanger or a barn full of outwardly identical machines, listening to a driver or a mechanic tell me things like "this one loves to work" or "that one doesn't like the cold". I've learned to take these statements very seriously, because I can usually find and measure a real basis for these "personality traits".

I guess this also explains the success of things like "the little engine who could" and recent animated movies like Cars and Wally. Before anybody accuses me of being a crazy old coot, I'm not saying these machines have personalities, I'm just saying that "the personality model" is the easiest way for us to interact with them.
2786) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 987581)
Posted 8 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
They seem to be a cross between badgers and foxes ....


More like a cross between a squirrel on steroids and a really foul tempered house cat. Those of us who grew up on CBC television back in the day know all about them.
2787) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm sick of hearing about iPads! (Message 987580)
Posted 8 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I wish my pockets were boring and had some money somewhere in them. That would reall be a surprise.


There might be money in my pockets, the pictures are too dark to tell.
2788) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm sick of hearing about iPads! (Message 987405)
Posted 8 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Still use a regular old cell-phone. Doesn't even have a built in camera.


Where can you get a cell phone without a camera these days?

I spend about 10 minutes a week deleting photos from my cell phone. One thing this has taught me: it is basically dark and boring inside my pockets.
2789) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (31) Server problems (Message 987399)
Posted 8 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just received this message:

07/04/2010 8:51:40 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)


This is clearly the end of the world. Or at least civilization as we know it. We should all leave S@H immediately, and Berkeley should be nuked. Maybe twice, just to be sure.

Just thought I'd get that all out of the way, before anybody else complained.

2790) Message boards : Cafe SETI : As hard as it is to admit..... (Message 987365)
Posted 7 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Almost as bad, I'm a Detroit Lions fan. Wrong sport I know. But I've never known a championship in my lifetime and I probably never will


Most leaf fans know that feeling.

Go Jays!




I remember lots of Leaf wins! But then I also remember when Louis St. Laurent was Prime Minister. 1948 to 1957, for our readers from away.
2791) Message boards : Cafe SETI : As hard as it is to admit..... (Message 986970)
Posted 6 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Cubs? Mariners? Cardinals? What division of the NHL are they in?
2792) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Inanimate objects have a secret life (Message 985712)
Posted 1 Apr 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I was fairly certain that there was really only one sock, and that single sock oscillated back and forth in time.

When we perceive "socks" we're really seeing the same sock on different cycles.

If that's the case, when a sock vanishes it is because the amplitude of that particular cycle wasn't as big as others (that represent the socks we still "have").

I expect you would also get some sort of superposition effect there which would explain why my socks seem to change size.


My socks don't change size, but my pants and shirts keep getting narrower. They don't oscillate, as postulated in the previously discussed Amplitude Modulation Sock Theorem (AMST), they just keep getting narrower. It started right after I got married.

I joined SETI to find out who is REALLY behind all this.
2793) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Inanimate objects have a secret life (Message 985676)
Posted 31 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
How else do you explain why socks go missing, and coat hangers multiply ?


It is a well known fact that weak points in the barriers between parallel universes can be created by rotating damp clothes at just the right temperature. The effect on long slender metallic cylinders bent into the just the right shape is great enough that coat hangers even close to the dryer are effected in a similar fashion. Just in the other direction.
2794) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : Where's Matt? (Message 985674)
Posted 31 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You can get a weekly fix here: http://seti.berkeley.edu/blog
2795) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XX (Message 985606)
Posted 31 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:



Strike any key to continue.
2796) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun (Message 985538)
Posted 31 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, Michael has asked us to come out puns blazing. Only groan-ups should apply, I guess.
2797) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LHC first physics - Live!!! (Message 985522)
Posted 31 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Look to the LHC@home home page. Time has jumped to April 24 and is now flowing backwards!
Tullio


Obviously caused by the black hole they created ....
2798) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 985521)
Posted 31 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The ultimate triumph of reality t.v. over nature... but fun to watch anyway. Thanks for sharing.

I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book.~ Groucho Marx ;)


Possibly best post of the week, or maybe the month :))).
2799) Message boards : Technical News : Lesson #1, Never use the word "fixed" (March 17, 2010) (Message 985520)
Posted 31 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Those entries are available in original form there --> http://seti.berkeley.edu/blog

Alas, the old scientific axiom of 'publish or perish' seems to no longer apply to the glass walls of this project ;-)



In the 21st century, this is publishing.
2800) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bumper Stickers (Message 985300)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Seen yesterday on a very large pickup truck:

Keep honking, I'm reloading.
2801) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hobbyist Shoots Earth From Edge of Space With Used Camera From eBay (Message 985299)
Posted 30 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
They thaw the birds first. (Trust me, I've done some of this testing.) And the engines don't have to work afterwords. They just have to blow up in a polite and discrete manner that probably won't threaten the rest of the airplane. It's called "benign failure".

And you can get Air Traffic Control permission to fly balloons and model airplanes and all sorts of fun stuff to ridiculous altitudes, even in the UK. Just takes some knowledge of the government process, a willingness to fill in forms, and patience.

I think the guy in the UK with the balloon is doing great work. It just shows that there are opportunities for doing science at all levels of technology and funding (kinda like SETI). If all you want is pictures from a consumer digital camera, a $750 balloon project makes great sense. For other things, you may need a $450 million space shuttle flight.
2802) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guilty Little Pleasures (Message 984957)
Posted 28 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Here's some Peeps for You, Note I've eaten 3 so far. :D

I noticed they are making chocolate covered Peeps now. I bought a couple for Eric's bunny basket, but was not particularly tempted myself.

If somebody reminds me, after Easter I will post the story of the Peeps Massacre we had at our place once. (Before Easter it just seems sort of wrong...)



. . . is there a PETA division / group that relates to 'PEEPS Massacre's' ????



I just hope that PETA doesn't find out about certain forumites ritualistically dismembering chocolate bunnies, and posting photos on the web.
2803) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it not obveous (Message 984881)
Posted 28 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
.. and whatever the reason for not filling our queues, BOINC is performing as intended. It will keep asking until work is received, however long that takes.

As Ned said, if you absolutely positively have to crunch, add another project or two. Then sit back and watch BOINC do its thing.
2804) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 984814)
Posted 28 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
From what I can understand of it, people in Canada and the states seem to treat raccoons in the same way as the UK treats foxes. Yes they can be cute and pretty when young, but are still seen as pests. It's a "not in my backyard" thing.


All depends on what the racoons are actually doing. We have racoons strolling through our yard most early mornings, but we have racoon-proof garbage cans (for now), so I could care less.

My sister and her husband spent a small fortune on racoon removal and house repairs about 10 years ago, when a family moved into their attic and set up a home. Ran around making noise at all hours, starting chewing up insulation and wiring, tore off soffits, etc. They were in an older neighbourhood, where large trees provided a racoon-route to their roof. Interestingly, none of this was covered by insurance, and the government critter-catchers had an 18 month waiting list.

And don't get me started on the duck poop on the pool cover.
2805) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #111 Squirrel says: Thanks for the nuts! (Message 984587)
Posted 27 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Actually, there is a Dire Wolf At My Door everytime I listen to Grateful Dead CDs. Might go put one on right now.
2806) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns O Fun (Message 984236)
Posted 27 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, on a SCALE of 1 to ten this is pretty weak. The humour is pretty FIN so far, nothing to FLIPPER over. My COD people, is this the best we can do? Is anyone HERRING what I'm trying to say?
2807) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (31) Server problems (Message 984231)
Posted 27 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm not even going to look at your account to test this, but - I would bet that you quoted that log from a quad-core.


Actually, a dual core. But this behaviour first started (or I first noticed it) recently, this machine has been running BOINC since late 2008.
2808) Message boards : Technical News : Lesson #1, Never use the word "fixed" (March 17, 2010) (Message 984230)
Posted 27 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
... or you just have to mention a problem in the forum for it to go away finally! ;-)

Alinator


If it was that easy, SETI and BOINC would be working WAY better by now.
2809) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #111 Squirrel says: Thanks for the nuts! (Message 984149)
Posted 26 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry to hear that Kenzie. Take it out on your new bunny.

And good luck with the job hunt.
2810) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (31) Server problems (Message 984148)
Posted 26 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think there is more to it than "maximum 30 WUs". My machines would never get that many WUs at a time, but I have noticed over the last few weeks that I usually don't get the full numbers of seconds BOINC asks for all at once. Before, my busiest machine would get about 10 to 20 WU all at once, perhaps twice a day. Lately, I see the work coming in in little dribbles, like this:

26/03/2010 3:36:45 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 1792 seconds of work, reporting 4 completed tasks
26/03/2010 3:36:50 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks

26/03/2010 3:37:05 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 807 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
26/03/2010 3:38:22 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks

26/03/2010 4:14:07 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 105 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
26/03/2010 4:14:12 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks

26/03/2010 4:54:00 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 79 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
26/03/2010 4:54:05 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks

Wouldn't this mean a lot more bandwidth is going into overhead? Also, with so many requests for a small number of seconds, am I getting less than my fair share of AP?

Added in edit: I swear I'm not pushing buttons. BOINC is doing this all by itself.
2811) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XIX (Message 984051)
Posted 26 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
An in joke for the airplane nuts:

The tall guy in the middle is an FAA flight examiner, and he's saying "you never can tell when you might lose one at rotation".
2812) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guilty Little Pleasures (Message 983898)
Posted 26 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
... a mini egg cheesecake ...


What a concept!
2813) Message boards : Number crunching : Unhappy kitties...... (Message 983713)
Posted 26 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And here is a residential RV 120V 30 amp that is not twist lock. I have installed many and some golf carts need them.

120 Volt 30 Amp non twist-lock


That looks just like the sockets we use in Canada for 240V appliances.
2814) Message boards : Cafe SETI : didja ever (Message 983696)
Posted 26 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
...hear your parents talking to you when it was really you talking to your kids!


Oh yeah. Usually followed by me thinking "so this is how pissed off they were when they said that".
2815) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XIX (Message 983519)
Posted 25 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
He is ready for when the teacher says "I hope you brought enough gum for everyone".
2816) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #111 Squirrel says: Thanks for the nuts! (Message 983494)
Posted 25 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
How does a repurposed kettle element help to skin a small mammal?


I don't know...Has any one among us tested this dreadful appliance?


I do all my squirrel de-skinning with the car. Works OK, but you spend a lot of time picking out all the gravel and dirt ...

A quick Google search shows an astounding 1,710,000 hits on how to skin a squirrel. Isn't the Internet wonderful?
2817) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guilty Little Pleasures (Message 983476)
Posted 25 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good lord woman - put that poor rabbit out of its misery! Eat! Eat!
2818) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather 2 (Message 983317)
Posted 24 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You may have noticed a lack of posting from Canada here recently. That is because we really don't consider it "weather" unless it is 20 below and/or snowing like crazy. We have entered the 8 month long period in southern Ontario known locally as "poor sledding".
2819) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 983301)
Posted 24 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
These sorts of things come up once or twice a year, whenever the real news is slow. Official news services are only slightly more reliable than the Internet. I'll believe it when I meet one.
2820) Message boards : Number crunching : Hosts will double in the next three years or less (Message 983294)
Posted 24 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
it looks like overall more people start using BOINC to run seti then some migrate to other projects. there doesnt appear to be any major spikes up or down for users other than may 2009. IIRC we had an outage then

Yeah... there was some sort weirdness that occurred back then... too many light beers in the distance for me to remember the details. But I think you're right, that big whooptie bump was some of the fallout of a larger than average outage.


Browsing old posts from April and May 2009 shows there were several longer than usual outages back then.

From the definition of "active user" the dips in Scarecrow's graphs don't necessarily reflect people giving up and leaving - they could just be people not getting any credit for 30 days, even though they were still connected. My old single CPU machine, when it was running 3 or 4 hours an evening, 5 or 6 days a week, used to take several weeks to do one WU. Doesn't take much of a hiccup to stretch that into 30 days between credit. The dip last year may be telling us that a significant percentage of users were still like that last year.
2821) Message boards : Number crunching : 9 Minutes ago (Message 983209)
Posted 24 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There are 2 times to look at: besides the time next to "results to send" and so on there is a "time page created" near the top of the page. Your 9 minutes ago means 9 minutes ago when the page was created, I think. This suggests that whatever script collects the data and then creates the page usually takes 9 minutes between the "fetch the number of results" step and the "create the page" step.

However, Ned's idea is much better to dance to.
2822) Message boards : Number crunching : Hosts will double in the next three years or less (Message 983139)
Posted 24 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I agree with Ned, it may be that many projects just reply "no work available" in a short while, as the number and strength of hosts grows.

Taking a broad view, I hope that other scientific enquiries, SETI related or otherwise, can come up with clever ways to use all this growing computing power.

Taking a narrow view, where will all the credit hounds go when SETI and Milkyway can't provide full time work? I wonder if somebody is working on a new project to take advantage of the newer CPUs/GPUs?
2823) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XIX (Message 983082)
Posted 24 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Aaaah, my butt hasn't felt this warm since last summer.
2824) Message boards : Number crunching : Hosts will double in the next three years or less (Message 983080)
Posted 24 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm not sure why you say BOINC isn't ready for more crunching power. Most of the projects I'm working in regularly run out of work, or have server or other project specific issues that slow distribution of work, but I don't see BOINC holding things up. It may be different for super-crunchers (anybody with a RAC bigger than mine) I guess.

I agree it will be interesting if the projects, SETI included, take advantage of this increase in crunching power, by adding new projects or making their projects more crunch-intensive (is that a real word?).
2825) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guilty Little Pleasures (Message 983033)
Posted 24 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Also I like Fritos Corn chips ...


The last 3 years I was in university I lived a few blocks down wind of a Fritos factory. For the first few weeks I craved corn chips every minute, awake or asleep. For the next 20 years just thinking about corn chips made me nauseous.
2826) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guilty Little Pleasures (Message 982833)
Posted 23 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Where do I start?

I've found a local bulk food store that has Cadbury Easter Eggs in packages of 3, for $1.99. They are usually $1 to $1.25 each around here. I'm trying to stay away from the place, but it is calling to me.

And, large soft pretzels, the kind they often sell in airports. When I travel on business I usually change planes several times (going from a small town to another) and I often wind up having two of these for lunch, or even dinner. Never mind the fancy new ones with cheese or mustard or hot sauce, just give me one with lots of salt.

And so on....
2827) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse Envy (Message 982440)
Posted 22 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just got my second AP this year, then the cricket graphs flatlined.
2828) Message boards : Cafe SETI : didja ever (Message 981768)
Posted 20 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
.. think you're going to sneeze, but then you don't, but then it comes back, and then it goes ...

And then you notice everyone is staring at you, trying to figure out what the heck is going on?

Sprung thaw here is bringing out all sorts of nasty airborne organics. Don't sit right in front of me...
2829) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it really over? (Message 980861)
Posted 19 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Shouldn't this be transferred to the politics thread?
Seems to have become a 'religious' discussion.


Amen.
2830) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Quote of the Day (Message 980735)
Posted 19 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Love the Virgil quote Ice. you probably know it is the basis of several famous mottos, in particular Per Ardua Ad Astra. Through your efforts, to the stars. This is the official motto of the RAF, and several of its Colonial offspring.

Getting back on topic, this has also spawned a few notable quotes.

The rank and file of the RCAF always translated the motto as "Through bolts and bars, to the stars".

Those of us in the aircraft industry often use a slightly modified version on bad days at the office: "Per Ardua Ad Nauseum".
2831) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it really over? (Message 980597)
Posted 18 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm always amazed/amused at all the people who keep predicting that SETI users will leave in large flocks because of the "bad service". Take a look at Scarecrow's graph of users. In particular, look at the graph at the very bottom of this page.


2 years only - look at the growth rate when S@H was Classic - growt was amazing back then...You're long enough (even longer than me) to know that. I don't think it will be rapid and everybody will resign. I think that people will start to think about project change and some of them will switch. The project shoud grow - now the growth rate is minimal.


The number of active hosts is pretty flat, while the total number of hosts climbs slowly over the last 365 days (which includes some major "bad service" events). This tells me that there is some turn over in users who sign up, give it a try, and then quit for whatever reasons.

I agree it would be interesting to see the data further back. Does anyone have it? There are graphs of both users and hosts on Scarecrow's site, my comments apply pretty much to both.

Or new users sign up and stay and the same amount of people who started to get upset or resigned due to frequent failures and leave the project...And active users attach more cpus..

Maybe, maybe not. Need more data. Lots of us here in the 10 year club...

Since S@H has a hard time generating enough work for this existing user base, why would they bother with any extra effort to retain more users or generate new users?


To be a biggest project and to keep this position?

According to BOINC Stats and Scarecrows statistics over half of all the active BOINC users are active SETI users. The other 40% or so are spread over more than 50 other projects. SETI's position is safe for a while.

To be always on the frontier of science and distributed computing?

I think S@H has proven that very old second hand servers, running freeware and volunteer written code, have limits. How will any more users add to that knowledge? How can a very limited staff of scientists do science if they have to spend time coddling annoyed users?

To finally manage to process all incoming data in the realtime (or close to that)?

First, I need to see the scientific value in that. Second, you don't need a team of Berkeley scientists to accomplish that. Lots of e-commerce sites have shown us that all it takes is time and money.

To enhance search area (spatially and spectrally)? You choose - it's not hard to figure..

Exactly. Time and money are very finite resources at S@H. Every minute and every penny spent of keeping users contented takes away from real science. A balance must be struck.

Users (and their machines) ARE the true power of S@H - It was many times underlined by S@H staff and it's well self explanatory. The more users the more power - the more power the bigger things you can achieve.

In the long run, I agree. But right now users and power don't appear to be the limit. How will adding more users today help us when Arecibo is shut down, or when the last of the old servers finally dies? Need to spend some time on those topics too, and right now.

All it would produce is more people griping about lack of work, lack of respect, lack of customer service, etc. I hope they have found more important things to spend their time on.


Like what?

Science. New funding. New staffing. Volunteers are lined up and waiting right now, that issue can wait.

That's how it's working. If Edison would give up on 15th burned lightbulb you still would be sitting with the candle.

I expect S@H would love to have Edison's funding, corrected for inflation. Who said they're giving up on the science?

And feeling the pressure (apart from stressing staff a bit) influence changes and improvement.

My experience in working in and managing scientific and technical teams is that pressure to improve the science does help. Pressure to keep vaguely defined "outsiders" happy makes people update their resumes.

What could be more important than pushing the hardware to the limits, testing DB's engines, figuring out new distribution/scientific algorithms, using new hardware for data processing - especially when running scientific distributed project?

Nothing. Certainly not public relations, unless it generates new funding.

Certainly the purpose is not to gather unconcerned people...There is no point in this - the project is glued by the great idea, devotion of users and passion of staff...otherwise it would break and split apart.

In my moments of quiet despair about this project (and I do have them) I wonder if part of the experiment is to push the users, and see at what point we all give up. As I said before, we are not there yet. The 10 year club survivors all appear devoted and passionate after all these years.

If this bother you, goodbye. Thanks for the CPU cycles. There is somebody standing in line to take your place.


It bothers me (in a positive way)- and it's a pity that people like RottenMutt wanting to quit due to project failures.... - those peoples are legends (my hat off here).

Certainly you're not the one who should say good bye to me....-find another tissue to wipe your nose...- crunch some 10x credits you have and we'll start chatting.. Instead of posting start crunching...-I't seems like leaving your computer idle will do more good than writing kiss-off's and good-bye's - 'cause to me you're totally wasting your computer's cycles. And this "somebody" is maybe you? - because being with the project over 10 years and earning not even 400K is like being semi-idle...and waiting in queue..

So the fact that you spend more money on computers makes you a better person than me, and gives you a bigger say in how S@H is run? Seriously?

I'm not griping neither most of the people - they are concerned not picky (and maybe a little resigned if failures are too frequent).

Maybe we have an issue in language usage here. It sounds to me like you are griping.

Apart from using idle cycles I want to utilize S@H to burn-in my new hardware. I was just saying, that due to failures I'm unable to use S@H for this purpose and I'll have to find another solution to test it (although S@H client stesses CPU+GPU pretty well - I wouldn't want to change that - only when forced). It's not the mater of complaining - it's a matter of running business, money and fulfilling testing duties. I have to have a decent reliable tool. Hope made myself clear on this one..

Very clear. You expect S@H to provide a free service to you, for business purposes. What happened to volunteer devotion and spirit?

Fine Print: this polite kiss-off reflects the views of this user only, and is not the offical position of this station, this network, or its sponsers.


I can do even smaller Footnote: And I can add colors too. Your kiss-off was not polite - even when "polite" words were used. Sometimes tone of your voice/composition of sentence tells more then words spoken. I don't meant to discourage you nor offend you- keep crunching, but if you want to say goodbye to me - save it..And you don't need to make "Legal Notice/Statement" hence you're not representing "this station, this network, or its sponsers"

The fine print was just an attempt to lighten up a conversation that I feel has become much more serious than it deserves to be lately. I know humour doesn't always translate well.
2832) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CAR RACING 2010 !!! (Message 980508)
Posted 18 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is still very early in the season, so hard to draw conclusions. Not only was Vettel knocked down by a problem that may not repeat, but Webber qualified lower than he usually does. I think the Ferraris, MacLarens and Red Bulls are all technically very close, and the Mercedes and Renaults could improve within a few races. Should be a very interesting season.
2833) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it really over? (Message 980480)
Posted 18 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm always amazed/amused at all the people who keep predicting that SETI users will leave in large flocks because of the "bad service". Take a look at Scarecrow's graph of users. In particular, look at the graph at the very bottom of this page.

The number of active hosts is pretty flat, while the total number of hosts climbs slowly over the last 365 days (which includes some major "bad service" events). This tells me that there is some turn over in users who sign up, give it a try, and then quit for whatever reasons. This probably means the total crunching power goes up steadily, as newer hardware is introduced by a constant sized group of steady users or new users.

Since S@H has a hard time generating enough work for this existing user base, why would they bother with any extra effort to retain more users or generate new users? All it would produce is more people griping about lack of work, lack of respect, lack of customer service, etc. I hope they have found more important things to spend their time on.

If this bother you, goodbye. Thanks for the CPU cycles. There is somebody standing in line to take your place.

Fine Print: this polite kiss-off reflects the views of this user only, and is not the offical position of this station, this network, or its sponsers.
2834) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XIX (Message 980461)
Posted 18 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:



I finally sold it, because I was tired of getting tickets for walking in the bikes only lanes, or riding in the pedestrian only lanes.
2835) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #110 ... Gary wins, Next #111 (Message 980170)
Posted 17 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Off to a job interview.
WooHoo.


Crossing fingers and toes. Keep us posted.

And, I win.
2836) Message boards : Cafe SETI : fresh coffee that smells like rotting fish... (Message 980132)
Posted 17 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Deal me in. I'll ante with Messy Marvin and Mikey who won't anything.


I'll see your Mikey, and add in a Bucky Beaver.
2837) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Vote for Shannon (or else!) (Message 980094)
Posted 17 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
@KensieB: I did bring it to the attention of the moderators with a Red-X (last week), but I was ignored. Thus, my post here.


Just because they took no action doesn't mean they ignored you.

@John Clark: And that's the facts, you are welcome. You can choose to ignore the similarity between this thread and BOTD, but that just exposes your bias.


Never saw this "BOTD", so no comment.

@Es99: Don't you agree that this thread exploits women? Or does that not matter to you?


Or is it helping a friend start on the career of their choice? May not be your choice, and is certainly not my choice, but who are we to tell others what to do?

[Edit:] Gee, does no one have a rebuttal regarding this being an advertisement?


The forum rules forbid "commercial advertisements". I don't see any solicitation of funds or other valuables here. If there had been, maybe the moderators would have viewed this differently.
2838) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy St Patrick's day (Message 980071)
Posted 17 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Interesting statistic from the CBC news channel .. today bars across Canada will serve an average of 192 pints of Guiness PER SECOND.

Yes but is it any good? The only Guinness I have come across outside of Ireland that tasted like 'real' Guinness was on a ferry crossing the Irish Sea to Ireland ;)


The draft Guiness in Canada compares well to the one draft Guiness I had in a bar in Heathrow. The bottled stuff here is complete crap.
2839) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy St Patrick's day (Message 980039)
Posted 17 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Interesting statistic from the CBC news channel .. today bars across Canada will serve an average of 192 pints of Guiness PER SECOND.
2840) Message boards : Cafe SETI : fresh coffee that smells like rotting fish... (Message 979896)
Posted 17 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You're not old Scarecrow! Bet you could get away with dating a Doublemint Twin.


I'm up for the Doublemint Twins, because I'm a two dab man...
2841) Message boards : Technical News : Maybe we're fixed? (March 16, 2010) (Message 979709)
Posted 17 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, do I read into this that the "problem" may have been in the campus hardware in between the SETI closet and the rest of the world?
2842) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather 2 (Message 979701)
Posted 17 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I closed all my windows, then opened them up again, but Vista stiil doesn't work!
2843) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XIX (Message 979698)
Posted 17 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


you can have a drink, as long as you don't tell anybody I'm here.

But seriously, that picture is just bizarre beyond words. After the contest, please tell us how and why this took place.
2844) Message boards : Technical News : Out of the fire and into the pit of sulfuric acid. (Feb 19, 2010) (Message 979694)
Posted 17 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ned, please don't lose your perspective on all this. Some of us rely on your insight.

The idiotic posts are either from idiots, who will leave, or from trolls trying to wind you up. Neither deserve your time and attention.
2845) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it really over? (Message 979578)
Posted 16 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Who remembers May 2007 when one of the servers completely died and the project was down for over a week?


You know, I'm pretty sure I had one or two machines running back then, but I can't honestly remember that one. Sort of puts it all in perspective.

Edit - Just checked my old notes, and I was on the road for a couple of weeks in May 07. Must have missed the whole thing. Is it too late to start complaining?
2846) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it really over? (Message 979569)
Posted 16 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
but without the annoying celebrities.


Speak for yourself!


The key word being "annoying".
2847) Message boards : Cafe SETI : fresh coffee that smells like rotting fish... (Message 979564)
Posted 16 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yeah, I remember him, from the fuzzy channels we sometimes got when we lived close to the border.

I tried telling my kids how excited I was when we first got a second channel, but I don't think they believed me.
2848) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse Envy (Message 979561)
Posted 16 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
When you find out, let me know.
2849) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it really over? (Message 979560)
Posted 16 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I wonder, how many times S@H will bounce until people will resign massively and switch to other projects...



Well, 11 years of this crud, and we are still here in record numbers. I'm sure we lose credit hounds from time to time, but I'm here for the science. And to see what happens next. Every time you think you've seen it all, something new pops up. It's sort of like Reality TV for computers, but without the annoying celebrities.
2850) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems... (Message 979558)
Posted 16 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Cricket graphs suggest the guzinta/guzouta is sort of working. I think there is also a problem with the roun'n'roun bit in the middle.

Based on a lifetime of explaining technical problems to non-technical bosses.
2851) Message boards : Technical News : Out of the fire and into the pit of sulfuric acid. (Feb 19, 2010) (Message 979557)
Posted 16 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
... and if you think about that, all of the constant bitching is incredibly selfish and just plain stupid.


You the man Ned.

Wanted to say much the same myself, but I couldn't do it without using terms that would probably have resulted in a life time ban.
2852) Message boards : Cafe SETI : fresh coffee that smells like rotting fish... (Message 979523)
Posted 16 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And for the Canadians playing along ... "Bill Walker here for Timex". No relation, by the way.
2853) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The countdown has begun (Message 979437)
Posted 16 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sad that the Brits don't make much of a fuss over St.Paddy's day - or even St.Georges day isn't it?


Andy, I can't speak for all my fellow Americans, but for me, any day that gives me an excuse to swill beer deserves the utmost attention. ;)




As a fellow North American, I share those sediments.
2854) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Everyone welcome KenzieB to the Modlist (Message 979427)
Posted 16 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Congratulations to the new Mistress of the Forums. I assume you have a suitable pair of shoes for kicking butt as and when required?
2855) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XIX (Message 979426)
Posted 16 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:




See, I told you we could turn left if we wanted to!
2856) Message boards : Number crunching : What is happening here? (Message 979424)
Posted 16 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I, for one, fully support Pappa and others on their consolidation and trimming of threads. Many of the newer posters apparently can't be bothered to scan existing threads to see if the topic is already being discussed, insist on posting questions in wrong forums, etc. Pappa is trying to make life easier for those of us who use the Forums for information, not for tiresome rants on subjects obviously not understood.
2857) Message boards : Number crunching : What is happening here? (Message 979269)
Posted 16 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My last look at the "news" forum shows somebody who started most of the threads has been banned.

Has the revolution started? why wasn't I informed Comrades?
2858) Message boards : Technical News : The more things change, the more they stay the same. (Message 979075)
Posted 15 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hi Rick;

You will usually get quicker answers to questions like this on Number Crunching.

What the "If no work for selected..." will do depends on what applications you have selected.

For example, I dream of getting AP units, so that is the only application selected in my preferences. I also have "If no work for selected..." set to yes, so mostly I get regular WUs these days. And about one AP unit a month.
2859) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The countdown has begun (Message 978957)
Posted 15 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can't we have Schnitzel and beer instead?

As long as there's beer involved, anything is fair game.

Keep the green dye, it just spoils the taste.


I use 2 drops of blue food colouring in one glass of ale. Seems to work well with ale, but I do detect a slight taste in a lager. Of course, after the third one you don't really care.
2860) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather 2 (Message 978933)
Posted 15 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The two main criteria for Officially Declaring Pseudo-Spring have happened here in London:

The last dirty chunk of snow next to the driveway melted.

I took down the Christmas lights.

This usually means sort of spring for a week or so, then another blizzard, then real Spring.
2861) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The countdown has begun (Message 978729)
Posted 14 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Corned beef and cabbage in the slow cooker right now, will start mixing up the green beer a bit later.
2862) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XIX (Message 978622)
Posted 14 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, that is a dozen or so, all roughly tied for first. Nobody came up with my first thought when I saw this picture: Look out, that cat has a gun! Giving special attention to those who obviously understand how a dog thinks, the winners are:

3rd place: Gary C. You don't want to see what's coming up the hill behind them!

2nd place: James S. We smell BACON !!

And the Kennel Club of SETI Trophy goes to:

VW Bobier with Searchin fer ET, Searchin fer ET, Searchin fer ET, Searchin fer ET...

PM about to be sent.
2863) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XIX (Message 978322)
Posted 13 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'd like to thank Angela, my producer, my makeup man, and all the members of the Academy...

Feels like Spring, so try this one.
2864) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XIX (Message 977789)
Posted 12 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Susan reacted well to her treatment for arachnophobia. Perhaps a little too well...
2865) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 977674)
Posted 12 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Objection, calls for speculation.


The witness may answer, if he has knowledge directly relevant to the question at hand.

And I win.
2866) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Giving A Spammer The Run Around (Message 977671)
Posted 12 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Oh you are devious Angela.

Good luck Luke.
2867) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Earth's figure axis shifted by 8.8 quake (Message 977407)
Posted 11 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I thought the two major effects that the GPS system must compensate for are Einstein's General Relativity and the refractive effects of the ionosphere.


These stay relatively (no pun intended) constant, and are fairly easily corrected for. Water vapour and air density change like the weather (pun intended).


There's also the smaller headache that the tectonic plates rise, twist and shift an appreciable amount with the weight of the tides and also due to the direct tidal forces from the moon.


If you can wait for the solution, and have receiver software that can crunch for this, you can actually measure this effect with GPS.
2868) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No Self-Inflicted Black Holes For Now (Message 977194)
Posted 10 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, like, she talks, like, sort of like my daughter. Like.
2869) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Earth's figure axis shifted by 8.8 quake (Message 977190)
Posted 10 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Which just goes to show you how much you should trust Wikis in general.

The effect Ms. KenzieB describes will effect the delay between the signal leaving the satellite and arriving the receiver, and this "time of flight" is a basic part of the position calculation. That's why every GPS receiver needs a very accurate clock, and also why that clock is constantly updated by a portion of the signal from the satellite constellation.

Water vapour in the air is the major variable producing position errors. Air density has some effect, but it is smaller. The higher accuracy differential GPS works by having a receiver at a known location, that constantly calculates the difference between its real location and the current GPS derived location. This is then broadcast as a short range signal, so other GPS signals in the area can be told, for example, that every local GPS right now is reading 4 feet to the East. They use a short range signal because the water vapour and air density can change over larger distances, producing different errors.
2870) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Earth's figure axis shifted by 8.8 quake (Message 977154)
Posted 10 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I seem to recall that GPS calculates positions relative to the satellites. These rotate about the centre of gravity of the earth, so the whole surface, and the cloud of satellites, should have just moved over, and all the calculated positions will remain valid for the earth-borne user.

That's the whole point. The earth has shifted it's rotation. All satellites are now displaced along their orbits by that shift relative to a point on the newly shifted earth.



No, the point is the satellites shifted too. The earth is always moving (around the sun, with the sun around the galactic centre of gravity, etc) and the satellites always go with them.

A much bigger problem, as Scarecrow's link points out, is when features shift relative to the surrounding items.
2871) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 977103)
Posted 10 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Late early morning, or maybe early mid morning, win for me.
2872) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Earth's figure axis shifted by 8.8 quake (Message 977094)
Posted 10 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I seem to recall that GPS calculates positions relative to the satellites. These rotate about the centre of gravity of the earth, so the whole surface, and the cloud of satellites, should have just moved over, and all the calculated positions will remain valid for the earth-borne user.

By the way, using multiple recievers with long term obervations and corrections, GPS positions can be accurate to a millimeter or less these days.

I guess things did shift relative to the Gallifreyan Pan-Galactic Grid, so the next inbound TARDIS may be 3 inches out when it re-materializes.
2873) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What would you do when the rapture comes? (Message 977093)
Posted 10 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I will probably be pressing the "update project" button right to the end....
2874) Message boards : Number crunching : New WU By the Skin of My Teeth (Message 977089)
Posted 10 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hi Parl;

I couple of things I've learned from others here over the years:

The scheduled shutdown is gradual, the various servers are turned off one by one. So, you may get still some services (like downloads) for a brief period while other services are turned off. The same thing, only in reverse, when they turn things back on.

The "results ready to send" numbers are a snap shot, and sometimes they can be several minutes old. There are 2 times to check: in the upper left corner of the page is the time the page you see was created. Right next to many of the stats is a time in a column labelled "as of", that tells you how old the data was when the page was created. Right now, for example, the page is about 14 minutes old, and several of the status numbers are one or two minutes behind that. With all the SETI users screaming for WUs, 14 minutes is a very long time.

Also, I think some of the older versions of BOINC will give you the "no work available" message whenever BOINC can't get through to the servers. This means that there could be WUs waiting, but the servers were at their maximum number of connections at the time you tried to connect. Things could be different a second or two earlier or later. That is why BOINC will re-try the request after some pseudo-random time intervals.

Finally, reading the "problems" thread at the top of the page tells me there are still some connection issues with SETI and/or BOINC, which seems to be limiting the number of useful connections to the SETI servers at any given time. You have done the right thing to see you through periods like this: longer cache and more than one project connected. Things will sort out in the long run, but that could mean weeks or even months.

Just a heads up: it looks like your SETI thinks it needs more WUs, to match the work share and cache size you have set. If it doesn't get them now, for whatever reason, it will get more when things clear up. This may make it look like your other project has problems, because it will be using less CPU share and asking for fewer WUs. This is just BOINC averaging things out.
2875) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 977034)
Posted 10 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Andy, if I wait for sales I can usually get Michelins installed here for under $150 Canadian each, or about 95 to 100 pounds Sterling (today anyway). Pretty much the same as you.

I can get no-name or Sears house brand kind of tires for under $100 installed, but why bother?

Everybody else - I win!
2876) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 976502)
Posted 7 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I hardly drink anymore. But I'll tell you something: I only drink in the late evening. Oh, occasionally the early evening, but usually the late evening - or the mid-evening. Just the early evening, mid evening and late evening. Occasionally, early afternoon, early mid-afternoon, or perhaps the late-midafternoon. Oh, sometimes the early-mid-late-early morning. . . But never at dusk! Never at dusk, I never do that. Very much.

With apologies and all due credit to Steve Martin.
2877) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 976306)
Posted 6 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I always thought Savor Faire was Canadian, but i could be wrong.

Luke - goods to hear from another former bit of the Empire (the pink bits on my old school maps). You need to be careful comparing your parties to US Democarats and Republicans, as some people will take it too literally. We do the same here - some people say the party on the left is "like" the Democrats and the party on the right is "sort of" Republican. If you actually look at party policies and goals, our most extreme right wing party to actually get elected (our current minority government) makes Obama look like Rush Limbaugh in black face.

And speaking of nuclear power - according to government statistics air pollution related deseases caused by burning coal kill an average of 3 people a day here in my home province. It was even worse 30 years ago, and has been going on for at least a hundred years. This is the province where the Canadian nuclear industry started some 60 years ago, and is home today to more nuclear reactors than any other province. Proven fatalities to date caused by nuclear power - 0.
2878) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 2010 Winter Olympics (Message 976113)
Posted 6 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very interesting article SJ. I like the part about saving frozen samples, for when new detection technologies are developed in the future. That may have a few people worried.
2879) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 2010 Winter Olympics (Message 976037)
Posted 5 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Haven't heard it confirmed, but one report on TV here said the organizers ran spot drug tests before the games started. Of the 20 athletes banned before the games even started, 18 were Russians.
2880) Message boards : Number crunching : Importance of regular cleaning (Message 976004)
Posted 5 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I sort of knew this, but just had a very graphic reminder.

I try to blow out the fan air passages on my laptop and my desktop at least once a month. My laptop was getting warm to the touch, so I opened SpeedFan and gave it a good puff. Raised a major cloud of dust, to my surprise.

CPU temps went from 74C to 58C within about 3 minutes, without any changes in running tasks. Now on to the desktop.
2881) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather 2 (Message 975993)
Posted 5 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I would like to see snow for a change!!


May I suggest Alert, Nunavut for your next vacation?

Observed at: Alert Airport
Date: 12:00 PM EST Friday 5 March 2010
Condition: Ice Crystals
Pressure: 101.7 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 8 km

Temperature: -34.9°C
Dewpoint: -38.7°C
Humidity: 68 %
Wind: W 8 km/h
Wind Chill: -44

Or maybe nearby Eureka?

Observed at: Eureka
Date: 11:00 AM CST Friday 5 March 2010
Condition: Ice Crystals
Pressure: 101.3 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 64 km

Temperature: -41.4°C
Dewpoint: -44.4°C
Humidity: 73 %
Wind: calm
2882) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather 2 (Message 975935)
Posted 5 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another nice day starting in Paradise North. This may be spring, or it may be another of Mother Nature's cruel jokes.

Sunny today, high of around +2C (35F). Snow melting nicely. Forecast is for much the same for the next 5 days.
2883) Message boards : Cafe SETI : United States Postal Service . . . (Message 975710)
Posted 4 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Most likely the day will come when the USPS closes on Saturdays.


That day came in Canada about 30 years ago, for home delivery. The world did not end.

About 20 years ago our postie service started to privatize the smaller outlets, placing them in drug stores and convience stores mostly. That now means I'm a 10 minute walk from a postal outlet that is open 7 days a week. The main outlet is a 20 minute drive away, keeps civil service hours, and has very little parking.
2884) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 975698)
Posted 4 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Heck even here We'd love snow for a day or so, As It would slowly melt off and largely sink into the ground out here


I wouldn't have thought snow would do much for you. If it was a slow melt then it would likely just evaporate off and as you say, a fast melt would run off.


The farmers up here love a heavy snow and a slow spring. If it is just warm enough to melt the snow, it is too cold to have very much evaporation. A wet snow pile is like a big damp sponge sitting on your field, gradually releasing water for a few hours a day. A quick melt mostly runs off. Good for filling the reservoirs for the city folk, but not so good for the local water table and soil moisture content.

On a related note, I see the local sugar bushes are starting to run. Just above freezing during the day, and below freezing at night, really gets the sap running.
2885) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Any body wanna know how you build a fire truck? (Message 975629)
Posted 4 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But just how many different versions of white can be possible? I mean isn't white, white?


I take it you've never gone appliance shopping with your Significant Other.
2886) Message boards : Technical News : The more things change, the more they stay the same. (Message 975624)
Posted 4 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If this is not the appropriate thread, I'd like to know which one is. I've looked around and don't see anything.


You can find answers to specific problems in the Number Crunching forum, by topic. Try "Panic Mode On" for general complaints. Technical News will discuss more general issues as well.



I'm not getting new tasks. I had set up my preferences to maintain enough work for 2 days (perhaps overly optimistic?). For a brief shining moment, I had a bunch of tasks but those days are gone, my friend; we thought they'd never end. . . .



If you can give us the typical messages you see in BOINC when trying to get new tasks, there are very bright people in Number Crunching that can then give you direction.



Some others suggested having a front-page announcement of the degree of up or down status, but I expect that that would not be good PR. Still, a thread here in Technical News or perhaps over in Number Crunching would allow folks to check if they could expect work units any time soon.



Check server status on the SETI home page. Also check the FAC page to understand all the information listed there.


Yes, fixing is more to the point than reporting and after a long problem time there'll be an even longer busy time, but perhaps a message at the beginning of an actual outage and another at the end (barring busy time when the world is hitting for more WU) would suffice.

Ross


The Tuesday scheduled outages are usually posted on the SETI@home home page. Unscheduled outages are, well, unscheduled.
2887) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 975490)
Posted 3 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Life can be good Rick. Snow melting here too.

Saw some pictures from Ottawa on the evening news last night - no snow there either. This is just not fair.
2888) Message boards : Number crunching : Tapes from 2009 again Hooray!!! (Message 975216)
Posted 2 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hoo-bloody-ray!!!

So, now that we have more data, it is definitely time to fix all the awful things in BOINC. And in SETI. And in the capitalist system. And in the way the NHL handles ties these days.

Won't life be grand then?
2889) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 975212)
Posted 2 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Left!
2890) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC needs a overhaul (Message 975124)
Posted 1 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
... so why not try for perfection?


Can anyone prove they are not trying? As you said, shoestring budgets mean it could take a very long time to get there.

Any time you have finite resources, in a commercial project or otherwise, you have to prioratize those resources. Things like getting the next grant and doing the science are probably more important that keeping us credit hounds busy.

And before everybody jumps on me, I still haven't seen any proof that server outages, upload/download delays, credit issues, etc. effect the quality or the timeliness of the science. Sure, in general a delay in an upload might delay the science, but can you prove that is actually the limiting factor right now in SETI? Or in any other BOINC project?

I'm much more concerned about the lack of new data from the Telescope. How will quicker uploads or downloads help that?
2891) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XVIII (Message 975108)
Posted 1 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Of course, that's not the REAL Lego Paul. He died years ago, and was replaced by a cheap Chinese knock-off.
2892) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc Credits and Credit Hounds.... (Message 975106)
Posted 1 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
IMHO the whole credit thing allows the science to piggy back on the hobby. It is all win-win, as long as you don't take it too seriously.
2893) Message boards : Number crunching : i'd like to thank the (Message 975105)
Posted 1 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Oh come on Phud. You're just not trying hard enough. Surely your cell phone is at least 3 months old, and therefore totally obsolete.
2894) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What good have you done today? (Message 975049)
Posted 1 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I helped a local homesteader build a greenhouse.


Cool. I knew you could still homestead in parts of Canada, but didn't realize it was still possible in the US.
2895) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 2010 Winter Olympics (Message 975046)
Posted 1 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
BTW how would one check immigration history from Europe to Canada. The US had a couple of way points like Ellis island and San Francisco that got a majority of immigrants during the late 1800's to the 1930's Does Canada have something similar?


National Archives Canada has some online resources, although I'm not too familiar with them. I think they have a lot of arrival records (from Europe via ship) back to 1867 and earlier. Take a look at http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/index-e.html

They also have some records much earlier than this concerning immigration to Quebec. They don't have much on my ancestors that were watching all this from the beach.
2896) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC needs a overhaul (Message 975045)
Posted 1 Mar 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thank you Richard for your rational discussion of the matter.
Some of us apply more emotion than logic to the situation, and then things degrade to personal attacks when others do not agree with our thoughts or opinions.
Which does little to advance any resolution to the subject at hand.


OK, who hacked into SETI user accounts and stole Mark's ID?
2897) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC needs a overhaul (Message 974782)
Posted 28 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think you're missing the point. If you can't deliver SCIENCE due to the behaviour of the client, then the client needs an overhaul.

Sten-Arne


Do we know that the science is being delayed by BOINC? Or is the pacing item the ability of the scientests to generate new work and analyze the results delivered so far? From scanning SETI and Milkyway web pages, the limit seems to often be scientest time, not crunching time.

To put it another way, if SETI staff (or anybody else) suddenly got extra money or staff, would the project be better served with doing more science, or doing more crunching?
2898) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What good have you done today? (Message 974768)
Posted 28 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good on you, Luke and Mark. I fed the dog this morning.

Well, actually, the wife fed him, because she got up before me. She usually does on a Sunday. But I had good intentions....

Later on I will shovel the driveway. Unless my son does first.
2899) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XVIII (Message 974766)
Posted 28 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


When ET finally did call, a slight glitch in the BOINC software resulted in an unfortunate reply.
2900) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC needs a overhaul (Message 974764)
Posted 28 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Seems to me that this petition would be valid if you can get the majority of active users (not just posters) to sign up. I count about 12 "in favours" so far, you need another few 100,000.

I share your frustration sometime guys, but you are missing the point completely of BOINC, SETI, etc. It is not about keeping our machines (and egos) fed. It is about doing science: within the budgets, time constraints, and abilities of the scientists we serve. They don't serve us.

If you don't like that, I suggest you start up your own distributed computing system, where the points are more important than the science.
2901) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 974233)
Posted 27 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning, and congrats to the US mens hockey team for winning Silver.
2902) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 974175)
Posted 26 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My theory has been to never eat anything that I can't pronounce. :P


That would keep me out of my favorite Korean and Thai restaurants.
2903) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 973786)
Posted 25 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

That sounds like a great way to live!


Come Monday I will have to dig out the cars and the driveway, but until then life is good.

Snow has just started...
2904) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 973755)
Posted 25 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winter? I thought spring has started?


Spring has started here a few times in the last weeks. It will probably be another month before it sticks.
2905) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When seti is broken like now... (Message 973741)
Posted 25 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wasn't Tearing the Bra off the Debutante a Monty Python sketch?

It's what killed the parrot.


It's not dead. Merely sleeping.

Well, he's...he's, ah...probably pining for the fjords.


Actually, he's all shagged out after a really long squawk.
2906) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XVIII (Message 973740)
Posted 25 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


How long do I have to wear this stupid thing?
2907) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 973739)
Posted 25 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Every once in awhile the universe comes together just right...

My wife and I have this week off, and spent the last few days driving the backroads of southern Ontario, stocking up at local wineries, microbreweries, and farmers markets.

Now I'm sitting at home with a basement full of good wine, good beer, and good food, world class hockey on TV all day today, tomorrow and Saturday, and heavy snow on the way.

It almost makes winter bearable ;).
2908) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When seti is broken like now... (Message 973641)
Posted 25 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wasn't Tearing the Bra off the Debutante a Monty Python sketch?
2909) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 973640)
Posted 25 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
7 - 3 Canada in the second.

Hard to believe but Canada hasn't beaten Russia at Olympic hockey since the 1960's. Maybe today is the day. :)


Oh yeah, it is the day!
2910) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 973527)
Posted 23 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning after the Canadian ladies beat the crap out of the Finnish ladies. Hot young chicks body checking other hot young chicks. I love the Olympics.

Thats always a win win :)


Alright you two, settle down! Don't make me post you-tube footage of be-sequined ice dancer dudes...


You watch you channel Angela, and we'll watch ours. That's the beauty of cable TV.

And for those of you not familiar with our beloved Grapes, here is another clip of this typically Canadian soft spoken and polite gentleman.
2911) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When seti is broken like now... (Message 973424)
Posted 23 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I spend more time with family (including the dog) and working on my totally nerdy web pages.

And last night I watched Canada just barely beat Switzerland in Olympic men's hockey. What a cliff hanger.

I watched Canada beat Denmark in Women's Curling, and called my friend Brian in Calgary. He couldn't believe his friend in California was watching Curling.

Heck of a match. Went into an extra end, and Canada won by putting the winning stone right on the button.

I don't believe anyone beats the women from SoCal when it comes to curling irons.

or bra burning.

Bra unhooking.

That presupposes they have bras.

Big ones. With lace.


Big black ones. With red lace.
2912) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 973423)
Posted 23 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning after the Canadian ladies beat the crap out of the Finnish ladies.

Hot young chicks body checking other hot young chicks. I love the Olympics.
2913) Message boards : Number crunching : Hay! that was fun!! (Message 973368)
Posted 23 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just a theory, or perhaps a model to help us have a bit of patience....

Looks like the SETI crew or somebody has cleared whatever was preventing the servers from running at their maximum capacity. Cricket shows the bandwidth is saturated, with several days of pent up demand. A small percentage of us get through, and then things go "whoosh". The rest of the time the servers don't answer your call, and it looks like it has for the last week - but for different reasons.

As those who get through stop calling in so frequently, the rest of the calls will get a chance. but it will take time, probably till after the scheduled outrage tomorrow, for all calls to be answered.
2914) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather 2 (Message 973291)
Posted 22 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Now that the upload/download excitement has died down to a dull roar, we can get on with more important stuff, like -

Winter storm warning for
London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County continued

..Heavy wet snow and patchy freezing rain this evening..

This is a warning that dangerous winter weather conditions are imminent or occurring in these regions. Monitor weather conditions..Listen for updated statements.


I just used the blower to move about 10 cm (4 inches) of very heavy and wet snow out of the driveway, because we had to get a car out. I think I will do it all again in about an hour to get the car back in, and then again later in the evening after the city snow plows bury the end of the driveway.

In case anybody thinks I'm complaining about the city plows, I fully understand that they have no choice but to fill my driveway every once in a while. I really don't mind shovelling the snow out the end of the driveway. What does REALLY upset me is when I have to shovel chunks of my front lawn out of the driveway. 20 bucks worth of reflector posts from TSC has (mostly) stopped this.
2915) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XVIII (Message 973255)
Posted 22 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


What do humans see in this stuff? Its pretty boring to me.
2916) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #109 ... An Olympic Year (Message 973217)
Posted 22 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, the US win brought their all time Olympic record against Canada to 5-2-10. I can live with that. Especially if I get Gold in TLPTPW!
2917) Message boards : Number crunching : Hay! that was fun!! (Message 973214)
Posted 22 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Simliar result from the Great White North a few minutes ago. Was down to 4 WUs to run, with enough pending uploads to kill any downloads, when it suddenly all went "whoosh". Now have about 3 days worth of work.

Cricket hasn't shown any great change, so I put this down to random luck. whatever, I'll take it!
2918) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (29) Server problems (Message 973183)
Posted 22 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
so it took just 38 seconds for me to abort it and stop the project getting any more tasks


Why would you abort a running task just because of a temporary loss of communication with SETI?

The whole idea of BOINC is to keep you crunching even when you can't immediately communicate. BOINC will try to build up a buffer of pending work to keep your computer busy, and keep trying to communicate without any help from you. I'm receiving WUs right now with completion dates of mid April, it will be a month before I'm worried about them.

I agree that selecting "no new tasks" might help things out for a while, but keep crunching what you have already received. Even if you blow by a due date, there is a good chance the results will be useful to the project when finally reported.
2919) Message boards : Number crunching : In Berkeley no-one can hear you scream! (Message 972876)
Posted 21 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Should be one heck of a Boincstats day when the smoke finally clears.


Hold that thought. SETI, like most serious science, is a long term undertaking. Expecting results/fixes/answers RIGHT NOW just is not realistic. Instead, come back in a year and talk about long term statistics. That is what is really important.
2920) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 2010 Winter Olympics (Message 972770)
Posted 21 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This year Italy is getting a number of fourth places. Yesterday young Johanna Schnarf was 11/100 s behind star Lindsey Vonn!
Tullio


Canada has a few of those, and they are real heartbreakers. A person can be the fourth or fifth best at their sport in the whole world, and nobody notices.
2921) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dont expect answers (Message 972768)
Posted 21 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Take a look at this thread.

If everybody reading these forums decided to quit SETI, they would still have about 80% of their current users (only about 20% of users read the forums).

I don't think SETI is going away because of a few impatient people.
2922) Message boards : Number crunching : In Berkeley no-one can hear you scream! (Message 972766)
Posted 21 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
"we see there is a problem and take care of it on monday" is good enough for me.
(this took 1 minute to type)


Yes, but how long to decide that is a true statement? I get enough "there there, calm down" messages from my government. I don't need any more of that.

Go to the sticky thread at the top of number crunching, there is some actual information (as opposed to theory) being presented there, by people in contact with staff.
2923) Message boards : Number crunching : Best & Worst Backup Projects ? (Message 972603)
Posted 21 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I read somewhere that CPDN ignores the "official" deadlines you see in BOINC Manager. That, plus the very long completion times, makes this a very good back up. you could lose the Internet for months and still get credit eventually for your crunching.
2924) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When seti is broken like now... (Message 972589)
Posted 21 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Heck of a match. Went into an extra end, and Canada won by putting the winning stone right on the button.


Canada had the hammer, and counted one, in the middle of the house. If you're going to talk curling Ned, get with the lingo.
2925) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 12/21/2012 (Message 972586)
Posted 21 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, the world will actually end in 2036? Remember kids, you heard it here first!
2926) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When seti is broken like now... (Message 972479)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Rants via Jeopardy method.


Didn't Socrates use it first?
2927) Message boards : Number crunching : In Berkeley no-one can hear you scream! (Message 972473)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If we assume the current situation is due to a blockage or choke point somewhere (in the server closet, in California, or wherever), than anybody who sends handshake bits through the choke point out of turn, and without actually producing an upload or download, is theoretically adding to the problem.

Having said that, I suspect that the percentage of users who even know about manual updates is so small that they are probably only making the difference between really bad and really REALLY bad.
2928) Message boards : Technical News : Out of the fire and into the pit of sulfuric acid. (Feb 19, 2010) (Message 972466)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I was just going to post this on my Website and everywhere else I could think of, but, what does the staff think?
(Probably not on a weekend)


This might pass under the new Canadian libel laws, but you should get it checked against the US laws.
2929) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When seti is broken like now... (Message 972457)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Complaining about complaining is still complaining.

Complaining about complaining about complaining is still complaining.

Specific statements of facts aren't complaints. Accusations to the contrary are rants.


AHA! (pulls old debating club notes off of shelf, blows off dust)

How do we know your alleged "specific statements" are, in fact, statements, or facts? Why are they not simply accusations? Is this not a matter of perception and opinion? Why is your opinion more valid than my specific statements of fact? What differentiates a rant from a statement?

Can you quote specific references? Can I completely demolish those references?

Oh sorry, wasn't supposed to read that last bit from the notes.
2930) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seems to me........... (Message 972452)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

I take their actions seriously.

But I don't take the people seriously.


Reminds me of a line my parents used on me, that I really didn't understand until I used it on my kids:

I always love you, but I don't always love what you do.
2931) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who is Rolando Alarcón? (Message 972424)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
According to Wikipedia, Rolando Alarcon died in 1973. If his posts are just getting through now, the servers are really screwed up....
2932) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When seti is broken like now... (Message 972419)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Complaining about complaining is still complaining.


Complaining about complaining about complaining is still complaining.

And besides, I was commenting, not complaining. And before somebody else posts it:

Commenting about complaining about complaining about complaining is still complaining.
2933) Message boards : Number crunching : In Berkeley no-one can hear you scream! (Message 972416)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just a small observation: in my country most people get some time off on a Saturday.
2934) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When seti is broken like now... (Message 972411)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My right to complain loud and long is validated by me willingness to stay here.


Your call is really important to us, but all our operators are busy right now. Please stay on the line ....
2935) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When seti is broken like now... (Message 972402)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Agreed, Bill. Unfortunately, for many Americans, it seems complaining about insignificant things means pushing for someone else to make you happy instead of finding happiness yourself.


OMG, that sounds so Canadian!

Up here, almost all complaints end with ".. and why isn't the government doing something?"

And if the government does do something, then they complain about high taxes. Really leaves you in despair for humankind. Or at least Canuck-kind.
2936) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When seti is broken like now... (Message 972394)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Your right to complain is by merely being a volunteer. Don't try to raise yourself above the rest of us and stop acting like you're top cat around here.


In a free speech country (which the US appears to still be) everyone has a right to complain. That doesn't mean anybody else automatically has an obligation to respond in any way. Freedom of speach can include not speaking, especially when you are busy with something more important.

Angela, Eric et al, I hope you can see past the moaning and groaning we sometimes do here, and understand that anybody who really understands what is going on here has nothing but respect (and maybe a bit of awe) for all the SETI staff, and all the staff at the other BOINC projects that keep things together.

Meanwhile, while my uploads and downloads continue at a trickle, I'm off to enjoy some early spring weather here in the Great White North, and walk my dog. When I get home, I intend to sample the results of my latest visit to the duty free shop. Ummmm, Jamiesons....
2937) Message boards : News : The connectivity problem noted yesterday turned out to be one of our switches and not the router. We swapped in a replacement switch today and connectivity was restored. (Message 972368)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All you people posting to this thread, do you realize that is was intended to cover a brief outage back in November 2009?

for more up to date info, and more relevant topics, try the number crunching forum.
2938) Message boards : Number crunching : Project Backoff too extreme... (Message 972013)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Since it seems to be a comm problem (somewhere along the line) pushing the button probably makes it worse for everybody.
2939) Message boards : Number crunching : Eric Are you out there or anyone from Seti? (Message 971842)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All praise to The Eric! I KNEW he hadn't forgotten us!
2940) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (29) Server problems (Message 971806)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nope.

As Richard posted older stuck uploads take more retries before they finally go through- i've noticed this whenever there's been a big backlog of uploads.


Sorry, missed Richard's post. Is there something different about some result files that causes them to fail uploading repeatedly, while others are more likely to go through the first time? Or is there any difference in how the servers treat a re-send, compared to a "first timer"? Can the servers even tell if it a re-send or a first timer?
2941) Message boards : Number crunching : Project Backoff too extreme... (Message 971791)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The biggest single problem is that our normal reaction is that anything will fit if we just push very hard. Sometimes we still think "push harder" is the right answer even after we break the tool.



Get a bigger hammer?? :-)

Exactly.


Well, that shows everybody who said Ned doesn't know Jack.
2942) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (29) Server problems (Message 971789)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here's another observation, with this outage confirming previous observations: a BOINC upload seems to have a greater chance of success if it's a newly-finished task, than if it's an old one which has tried several times before.

That's something i've noticed as well.


Is that just an artifact of the current random success of uploads, plus backing off of re-sends? For several days I had about 5 pending uploads hanging around, and completed about 10 a day. That means in any given time period I had twice as many new completions as old pendings. If they all go through with equal probability, I would expect to see twice as many successful uploads of new tasks per time interval than of old pending transfers.

I think the longer the pendings stay around, the longer Task Manager backs off the time between attempted re-sends, which would also tend to make the pendings look slower and slower.
2943) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (29) Server problems (Message 971775)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Also just noticed that Thumper and the primary science database are off line. Possibly related?

Just confirms the horrible suspicion I've had all along: SETI is just here for the science, not to keep us credit-hounds happy.
2944) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When seti is broken like now... (Message 971757)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I understand the swiss put a lot of money in their hockey team and the quality is showing. They looked pretty good against the Canadians


They also had a head coach from the great city of Steinbach, Manitoba. And they did look very good. Their goalie saved their bacon several times. I think he plays regularly in the NHL.
2945) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When seti is broken like now... (Message 971751)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We shall see .....
2946) Message boards : Number crunching : Eric Are you out there or anyone from Seti? (Message 971750)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Maybe jsut have an machine that watches the forums. When a lot of complaints crop up automaticly make a post.


LOL. "Your call is really important to us, but all our operators are busy right now." That always makes me feel better.
2947) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #108 - Closer and closer... (Message 971725)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What .. what ... what's going on here?

I just woke up in the middle of a corn field.
2948) Message boards : Number crunching : Eric Are you out there or anyone from Seti? (Message 971723)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

I just want one bit of information from the project: "We're on it."


Looking at recent changes in Cricket, and the fact that I finally started uploading and downloading last night, somebody must be "on it".

2949) Message boards : Technical News : Off the Beach (Feb 16 2010) (Message 971720)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey guys, there is more information on this is the number crunching Forum. They had an a/c breakdown early in the week, and we seem to be still coping with the results of that.
2950) Message boards : Number crunching : Eric Are you out there or anyone from Seti? (Message 971683)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hiamps, your concern would be valid if SETI was desperately short of volunteers, and needed to stop people leaving and/or start new people signing up.

I think that this is actually quite low on their list of Things to Do Right Now. Especially if (as it seems) there are some other problems demanding their attention.

I share your frustration at the lack of information in real time, but I have worked on enough large complex projects to know that you have to prioritize your scarce resources - people in this case. As long as there are volunteers like you and me who stay attached through these panics (and I suspect that the majority of SETI crunchers probably don't know these outages and slow downs even occur) SETI staff will spend times on other more important things.

Like getting the servers communicating again, for example.

And before anybody suggests we unionize and withdraw our services until we are properly tended to, ask your self what percentage of SETI's crunching power even reads these Forums. We would all look pretty dumb if we all quit and nobody noticed.
2951) Message boards : Number crunching : have CPUs become irrelevant? (Message 971665)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For those of us who don't play serious games and therefore don't have a serious GPU, CPUs are very relevant.

Has anybody seen statistics on:
- what per centage of crunchers even have a GPU?
- what per centage of crunching comes from GPUs?
2952) Message boards : Cafe SETI : When seti is broken like now... (Message 971663)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I spend more time with family (including the dog) and working on my totally nerdy web pages.

And last night I watched Canada just barely beat Switzerland in Olympic men's hockey. What a cliff hanger.
2953) Message boards : Technical News : Out of the Frying Pan (Feb 17 2010) (Message 971660)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A lot of money has been spent to develop recievers based upon Allen's money.


My understanding is that Allen's money goes to another project, and that project does not provide any support or data to this one. SETI funding has been discussed at length on the number crunching forum, it comes mostly from UC Berkely and volunteer donations.

If you want to see what a difference money makes, try using World Community Grid for a bit. Mega bucks from IBM keeps things up and running. That's fine, if you don't mind Big Corporations deciding what is worth crunching and what isn't. For me, I will continue to run a mix: taking advantage of IBM's big bucks and the SETI staff's hard work and dedication.
2954) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server (Message 971643)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Since we seem to have some new folk in this thread:

Welcome to SETI, BOINC, and the Forums. I have met a lot of intersting people here, and I like most of them. Even the ones I don't like can be intertaining some times.

Since you are discovering that SETI (like all BOINC projects) can come and go, you should consider attaching one or more extra projects, to fill in the blanks.

The BOINC home page can show you the projects available, click on the hot link "projects available". They mostly have some background information on their home pages, and they mostly have Forums like these. SETI seems to have the most active and entertaining Forums, probably because it has been around so long.

Give some of the other projects a try, and let us know how it goes.
2955) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (29) Server problems (Message 971641)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ah, so that's where I've been going wrong. When I go to the pub, I always drink beer.

Doesn't work nearly as well...


Beer seems to work in the summer. Red wine seems to work in the winter. Not quite sure why. Obviously, further study is needed.
2956) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEETS Give us a CAPTION XVIII (Message 971636)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have GOT to cut back on the caffeine.
2957) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (29) Server problems (Message 971632)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey everybody, I have found the solution to all these upload/download problems. This process has worked repeatedly for me, so I feel I should share it.

When problems like this start, I walk away from the computer, have a glass of wine, watch a little TV (Olympics last night), and go to bed.

Woke up this morning to find all my uploads upped, and 16 new downloads downed and in line for crunching.

Problem solved.
2958) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 12/21/2012 (Message 971433)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I am stocking up on survivor supplies.

Not because I think anything particularly bad is going to happen but because, in the month or so before the date, when the panic has reached a fever pitch, there will be serious money to be made by those who have stuff to sell the lemmings.


Now that's the spirit!
2959) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Social Experiment: What do you think about Sending messages into space? (Message 971258)
Posted 18 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So if this guy is lying about mods using his service, why hasn't he/she/it been banned?
2960) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (28) Server problems (Message 971257)
Posted 18 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
According to Cricket, downloads have started again. Expect it will take days to clear the back log though. Thats why we run other projects.
2961) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 12/21/2012 (Message 971231)
Posted 18 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
On a beach, somewhere tropical. Assuming I've won the lottery by then, of course. Otherwise, at work.
2962) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UKs 1990s UFO Archives released (Message 971177)
Posted 18 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As an enthusiastic amateur bird watcher and plane spotter, I see UFOs just about everyday. Was that a female House Sparrow, or a Field Sparrow?

I pretty sure none of them are ET, but you never know...
2963) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many Boinc projects do you run? (Message 971175)
Posted 18 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm running 6 projects currently, on a laptop and a very old desktop. Both run about 24 hours per day. I'm using Speedfan to monitor temperatures, and have the laptop throttled to about 70% CPU to keep CPU temperatures below 70C. A little more CPU in winter, a little less in summer. The old desktop runs full bore, such as it is, and contributes about 10% of my RAC.

This laptop has been running like this for about 18 months without problems. The previous laptop was lost in an airport, but had been running like this about 3 years without problems.
2964) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (28) Server problems (Message 971171)
Posted 18 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm actually out of SETI work, for the first time in months.

Uploaded 5 out of 8 completed WUs overnight, oldest of these these have been trying to transfer for about 48 hours. No downloads, messages like this:

18/02/2010 8:26:04 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 259200 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
18/02/2010 8:26:26 AM||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
18/02/2010 8:26:27 AM||Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
18/02/2010 8:26:29 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server

Cricket graphs appear virtually dead. Definitely a communications problem somewhere....

Fortunately all my other projects are running nicely.
2965) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a buzzard! (Message 970693)
Posted 15 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Having lived and worked around airports all my life, I've heard lots of bird strike stories. This story reminds me of one of my favorites, when an Army training helicopter hit a duck while flying at night back in the 60s. The duck took several minutes to die in the cockpit, leading to much excitement in the dark, and this conversation right after the initial strike:

Instructor: What was that?

Student: I don't know (brief pause) but it's sitting beside me (brief pause) AND IT'S ALIVE!!!
2966) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 970409)
Posted 14 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This is basically the thinking NASA has been using for the last 30 years in their search for a Space Shuttle replacement. "This is really hard, so I'll quit and try something else." Look where it got them.

If you quit SETI, why do you hang around on the Forums?

Oh my gosh, is this one of those Trolls everybody talks about?
2967) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 2010 Winter Olympics (Message 970354)
Posted 13 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


From coverage this morning Ive seen so far they state that this and other poles along this section are in place to hold sunroofs over the track to prevent the sun from melting the track.


If that's all those posts do, then 3 inch flexible plastic tubing with a plastic tarp would suffice.



Until the cover gets a foot of wet snow on it, and/or the wind picks up. I think they are trying for a long term facility here, for example the Calgary track (built for 1988) is still in use today.
2968) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (28) Server problems (Message 970034)
Posted 12 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Did you cover your head with your towel?


Tin foil works better.


But the experienced traveller always carries several towels.

You know, that Bill Walker is one hoopy frood.

All this babble is just fishing for comments.


Maybe, but don't panic. It is mostly harmless.
2969) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather 2 (Message 969986)
Posted 12 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Snowing -9°C.
Wind N 3 MPH..

Have no idea who told me it cant snow under -3°C.


Actually Mike, I've seen it snow at -40C. It snows hardest between +1 and -3.

Another nice day here in Paradise North, about half an inch (1 cm) of snow yesterday, should get the same today. Just enough for the city plows to fill up the end of my driveway.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EST Friday 12 February 2010
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 101.5 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -6.8°C (20F)
Dewpoint: -9.3°C
Humidity: 82 %
Wind: W 11 km/h
Wind Chill: -12 (10F)
2970) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (28) Server problems (Message 969985)
Posted 12 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Did you cover your head with your towel?


Tin foil works better.


But the experienced traveller always carries several towels.


You know, that Bill Walker is one hoopy frood.


And I ALWAYS know where my towel is.
2971) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (28) Server problems (Message 969900)
Posted 12 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Did you cover your head with your towel?


Tin foil works better.


But the experienced traveller always carries several towels.
2972) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whats the chances..... (Message 969699)
Posted 11 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
...... of loosing two different hard disks on different machines in two days?


Not sure of the probablity, but the possibility is 50 % - either it happens, or it doesn't.

As Andy said, BOINC and SETI sort it all out in the long run. Just keep contributing your spare cycles, and hold your head high. Not your fault, just some dumb pieces of hardware.
2973) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 2010 Winter Olympics (Message 969697)
Posted 11 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Drop Curling and I'm out.


I love it when the women yell "hurry, hurry hard!"
2974) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry about the long outage.... (Message 969568)
Posted 10 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Eric - thank you very much.

Angela - give the guy a break. It's bad enough that all us forumites whinge and moan about every second of downtime, a guy should be able to leave the office and get away from all that.
2975) Message boards : Number crunching : What's with the downtime? (Message 969567)
Posted 10 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The estimates for the maintenance downtime are pretty good. One should know that when reading estimates that Hofstadter's Law should always be applied.


This sounds similar to the "90-90 rule" we used at a former employer who shall remain nameless:

"The first 90% of the work takes 90% of the budget and available time. The last 10% of the work also takes 90% of the budget and the available time."

I still can't see what the big deal is about "outages". My crunchers run out of SETI work maybe once a year, for a day or two at the most. I give all my staff some time off now and then, as long as they arrange coverage during their absence. One or two unplanned sick days a year for SETI is better than the average.
2976) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's Give us a CAPTION XVII (Message 969441)
Posted 9 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Her doctor told her she needed more iron in her diet.
2977) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 2010 Winter Olympics (Message 969435)
Posted 9 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But my point, that there is little if any connection between mill closing and the Olympics, remains valid.


I agree. Mill closures in Canada are just a small part of a very big problem. With or without Olympics.

I still make a big chunk of my living off the forestry industry, and New Brunswick seems to be doing better than BC these days. But I've branched out, found other industries, and other customers. The times they are changin'.
2978) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cat owners 'more educated than dog owners' (Message 969434)
Posted 9 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Uh... correlation does not necessarily imply causality.


So, I'm not dumb because I have dogs, instead I have dogs because I'm dumb?

And where do people who name their racoons fit in this complicated picture?

(You know I'm just joking, I hope.)
2979) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 2010 Winter Olympics (Message 969361)
Posted 9 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Mills closing in BC is not "generations long" Kenzie. It is only the last 10 or 20 years or so. But is does reflect a much bigger problem than funding or not or funding the Olympics. The mills were there for generations, and seeing them go scares people (me included).

Bob Dylan said "the order is rapidly changing", Steely Dan said "those days are gone for ever, over a long time ago". That is the reality folks. We can't hide behind something as minor as one set of Olympics, or even a nutbar like Stevie Harper. It is a new world every day in every way, and we need to move, or get left behind. Moving with it isn't good enough. We need to move ahead of it, or die.

Rather than blame it all on the mills, or on the big cities or on the Olympics we need to find new ways to make a buck and build a future for our towns. (In the east we blame everything on Toronto. Not true, but it's still fun.) I worry about people who focus on "saving the mills" (or saving whatever). They are becoming the buggy whip factories of our generation, except for a few specialized exceptions. Yeah, sometimes I wish it was the 1970s again and I had dark hair, but it isn't, and I don't. If building a stadium or two and promoting a city can help, lets do it. But it can only be a small part of the solution. And if it doesn't work, things haven't got much worse. It will take lots and lots of small innovations, every day, to keep us from sliding into the Third World. The only way to find lots of innovations is to try lots of things.

My examples are Canadian, but the same things are happening every day in the US, and lots of other places.

The sermon is over. Back to having fun now.
2980) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CAR RACING 2010 !!! (Message 969357)
Posted 9 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Webber, Rosburg and Truli all got half a point last season in one race that was ended early. I think this was in Malaysia, where they got rained out.
2981) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cat owners 'more educated than dog owners' (Message 969320)
Posted 8 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Squirt bottles work very well on dogs too. From personal experience.
2982) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cat owners 'more educated than dog owners' (Message 969237)
Posted 8 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You need a higher education in order to get a better job so you can pay for a cat's upkeep. Dogs will eat anything, sleep anywhere, and love you for it.
2983) Message boards : Cafe SETI : All dogs are not created equal... (Message 969079)
Posted 7 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think the special I watched mentioned something about how domestic cats are hybrids, like SJ described. To me the interesting thing was how those original species started to hang around with humans.
2984) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 969076)
Posted 7 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
They know it will fail and be left for the Far Future.


Futures are built on failures. The failures have to be well intentioned, well thought out, and well documented, in order to contribute to the future. Not saying SETI is one of those already, but the worst it can be is another data point on the path towards the "right" solution. At best, it may be much more in the next few decades or centuries.

Patience, Grasshopper.

I, for one, will continue to contribute (not that a few spare CPU cycles is that big a sacrifice).
2985) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 2010 Winter Olympics (Message 969075)
Posted 7 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So Robert, what you have to do is apply to get some Olympics (or similar) in Prince George.

Being several thousand of miles away makes it easy for me to be detached I guess, but I can see some good points in both sides of this argument. As Kenzie said, the cuts would come anyway. We have the same cuts here in SW Ontario, where he haven't received anything like the Olympics that could be used as an excuse. (Apart from a few briers.) Governments cut public funding these days because the rich like it that way, and the poor don't count in this country - as long as we have a closet Fascist federal government.

Having said that, I have watched people and money move into London since we opened the John Labatt Centre about 8 years ago - briers, figure skating, junior hockey tournaments, etc. That money goes somewhere, and because we spent money on a new facility we get a bit of it. Not just the money spent on tickets, but hotels, meals, shopping, parking tickets, etc. A much smaller scale than the Olympics, but the same argument.
2986) Message boards : Cafe SETI : All dogs are not created equal... (Message 969072)
Posted 7 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hiamps last post reminds me of an interesting special on the Discovery Channel (or somebody like that) a few months ago about how and why we "got" cats and dogs. The theory went like this:

Dogs, being pack animals, were easily bribed with food into joining our pack, where they offered protection and detection that we wanted.

Cats ventured into early villages and farms following the rodents attracted to stored food. Some cats eventually tolerated humans, and hung around.

In short, we picked dogs, but cats picked us.
2987) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who wears the pants at your house? (Message 968134)
Posted 4 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Loosely related trivia quiz:

Which TV character said "I haven't worn underwear since 1971." Hint: he was a lawyer.

Would that have been Alan Shore?


Nope. Next hint: he was a prosecuting attorney.
2988) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cars I have owned......... (Message 968133)
Posted 4 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Tullio, in North America we call those doors "suicide doors" ;)

I've known two Lancia owners here in Canada, and they truly love them. They go to extraordinary efforts to get parts and keep them running, and both would never own anything else.
2989) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's Groundhog Day!!! (Message 968118)
Posted 4 Feb 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Who needs that kind of temptation?


Yes please.
2990) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 967197)
Posted 31 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Oats! the Scots gift to the world!

I grew up on oatmeal and all things oat. I will have to try this out.
2991) Message boards : Cafe SETI : All dogs are not created equal... (Message 966920)
Posted 30 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
2 hours later he did it again...


They do catch on eventually. When our Cocker started to lose his sight, he went into the pool about 6 or 8 times, really not enjoying it, before he learned to go AROUND it. Every winter, when the pool cover gets buried in snow, he wanders out on to the cover 3 or 4 times and gets stuck (he can get down onto the frozen water, but can't get back up by himself). Eventually, along about mid-January, he starts going AROUND the pool again. 4 winters like that, and counting.

He's not dumb, he just needs to be reminded.
2992) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Some kind of kitty miracle?? (Message 966733)
Posted 29 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I don't know if they make them for cats, but Greenies (www.greenies.com) makes hollow soft treats that my Cocker loves. You can squish them up enough that there is no pill showing, and apparently they taste good to dogs. I say apparently because I'll never try one. They look like .. well, they are soft and brown.

My cocker takes two treats a day, each with 2 pills hidden away. We stick with a routine of him "earning" them, to keep his interest up. He has to come in, or go out, or something, before he gets one.

Before that we tried all the standard vet tricks: liver pate, cheeze whiz, peanut butter, etc. Each was good for a few days or a week at the most, then the dog would spit them out. The Greenies have been working for a couple of months now - touch wood.
2993) Message boards : Cafe SETI : All dogs are not created equal... (Message 966702)
Posted 29 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
At the risk of thread creep...

My son's elementary school had a pet rat that had been trained to play fetch. We "rat sat" over one summer vacation, and it would roll its little ball up to your feet, and then sit there staring at you until you threw it. It was kind of creepy at first, but we got used to it. I was almost fond of the little critter by the end of summer.

Which reminds me of a real dog story. Our current Cocker would love to play fetch in the house when it was younger, but would never follow the ball if you threw it outside. It was several years later that we learned the dog had been born with poor eye sight. Probably couldn't see the ball when we threw it outside.

By the way, bad eyesight is just one of about a dozen conditions that various vets have informed us that "Cockers are prone to" over the last 14 years. Never mind health care for people, we need health care for Cockers.
2994) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 966674)
Posted 29 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
How come I don't get to Kansas if I am headed to Missouri?


You do, if you start in Colorado. First Kansas, then Missouri.

And remember, no matter where you are going - once you get there, there you are.
2995) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 966673)
Posted 29 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You win Rick. I can see about three city lots here. Just a nice spring day. The "official" London weather comes from the airport, on the other side of town. Just light snow there, since I don't have to shovel the airport.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 10:00 AM EST Friday 29 January 2010
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 103.1 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 3 km

Temperature: -13.0°C (9F)
Dewpoint: -15.5°C
Humidity: 81 %
Wind: NE 11 km/h
Wind Chill: -19 (-2F)
2996) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 966669)
Posted 29 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The remaining problem is, if I want a soft boiled egg for, say, May 1st morning this year, do I still have time to do it? ;-)


Depends on how big the egg is.
2997) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 966667)
Posted 29 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All of you are missing the point.......
Which was to cook a SOFT egg.
The perfect SOFT egg. Which means less is more.......LOL.


So, how come I don't get mashed potatoes if I cook a potato for less time?
2998) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 966664)
Posted 29 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Lake effect has just started dumping on my driveway, on top of low temps and high winds. Notice how the snow comes off the lake and heads straight for me. It's enough to make a guy paranoid.

2999) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 966661)
Posted 29 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Therefore, I wonder why the boiling or cooking time shouldn’t be the same as well. ;-)


Your assumptuion would be true if you were only heating the egg and the potato. Cooking also involves chemical changes (especially in the egg). These absorb heat, and different chemical reactions could therefore take different times.
3000) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The joke thread Part 3. (Message 966411)
Posted 28 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So Blurf, I see you've been to Swift Current!
3001) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 966388)
Posted 28 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This thread has been a little quiet lately, I think because the southern Ontario weather has only been slightly miserable for the last two weeks. That's all about to change.

Had to drive out in the country yesterday, to Poplar Hill, and my little Civic just about got blown off the road. Drifts across the main highway were several inches deep in places, within a few hours of the plows going through.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:18 AM EST Thursday 28 January 2010
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 100.0 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 2 km

Temperature: -9.6°C (15F)
Dewpoint: -11.4°C
Humidity: 84 %
Wind: WNW 26 gust 46 km/h
Wind Chill: -19 (-2F)

Forecast for today:
Flurries. Local amount 2 cm (1 inch). Local blowing snow. Wind southwest 20 km/h becoming west 40 gusting to 60 (40 mph) early this morning then diminishing to 20 late this afternoon. Temperature steady near minus 8.
3002) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's Give us a CAPTION XVII (Message 966384)
Posted 28 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


The rare Peruvian mini-polar bear stealthily awaits its prey.
3003) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 965885)
Posted 25 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I wonder where the problem is.



Clearly, you need more data. Drop a dozen eggs in a boiler, then pull one out every few hours. Repeat as necessary, taking an egg out every few days or even weeks. Sooner or later you will get the right answer.
3004) Message boards : Number crunching : Bionc does not fetch any work from SETI (Message 965732)
Posted 24 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My experience with Milky Way is similar. It seems to push the boundries of BOINC's sharing capabilities.

When I do get Milky Way, it can be a large number of tasks with a short dead line. BOINC panics (figuratively speaking) and does nothing but MW at high priority till they are done. This builds up a big debt with the other projects. No more MW is requested while the other projects get back into line, for several days or even a few weeks. When MW is finally requested, I usually get another big list of tasks, and it all starts over.

I have noticed the number of MW tasks recieved at a time is slowly coming down (12 at a time when I started a few months ago, now 8 or 9 at a time). I guess BOINC is "learning" how to handle MW better.
3005) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 965555)
Posted 23 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks to Miz Moon for proving one of my main theories of cooking - you can make anything edible by adding a bit of bacon.

I visit Finland several times a year on business, and their cooking is nothing to be ashamed of - at least some of it. The area around Kupio specializes in small fish baked inside a loaf of bread, can't remember the name, but it is really quite good. Also, I've had excellent pickled fish in several places in Tampere. The Finnish reindeer I've had is also pretty good.

The Finns also do some sort of watery stew that is supposed to be a good way to use up leftovers. Had that a few times further north, around Vieremä, can't say I like that too much. But all in all, it is possible to eat very well in Finland.
3006) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cars I have owned......... (Message 964529)
Posted 19 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Don't know if I can list them all. Some were co-owned with Significant Others, sometimes had two at a time.

1965 MGB GT. Loved it till the hood came open on I-5 at a high rate of knots.

1967 Bug. Loved it until I discovered one of the several previous owners had used wrong spec brake fluid. The seals in the master cylinder dissolved at the top of a BIG hill with a traffic light at the bottom. Fortunately, got a green.

1974 Honda Civic, the first year Civics were sold in Canada. It was a blast, had to trade up to a "real car", so we bought a -

1976 Toyota Corolla hatchback. Actually a 1976 and a half, only sold in western Canada, confused eastern Toyota dealers with it when we moved to Ontario. One of my all time favorite cars. Used to transport a small sail boat on the roof and lots of gear inside at the same time. Installed a tape deck all by myself, and really big speakers. Ran it until 1985, but I was the only person who could shift gears in it the last few years.

1969 Datsun 1000 was added to the fleet in 1979, when work forced us to become a two car family. "1000" was a marketing lie, actually had a 950 cc engine. Fun car in a goofy kind of way, sort of like driving a Tonka Toy. Last car I really worked on myself, using hammers, pliers and files mostly.

1981 Tercel, nice reliable car. Actually had the radiator stolen from it in about 1990, I guess that means it was a car people liked. Heater died, repair estimate was enough to make us buy a new car in 1991.

1985 Tercel, our first four door car, with family about to expand. Very practical. Very boring. Very rusty when we got rid of it.

1991 Corolla, another lovely car. Drove it into the ground with long range commuting in Ontario winters.

1995 Ford Winstar. Needed a minivan to get into various carpools (hockey, gymnastics, cubs, guides, etc.) Probably the biggest mistake of my life. Even bigger than when I bought that Michael Bolton album. What a pile of crap (both the car and the album). Started falling apart within a few months (just the car). When we finally drove it to the wreckers in 2001, their yard caught fire a few days later. You can't prove it was us...

2001 Corolla. Nice car, but a bit of a let down after the 1991 though. Incredible highway cruiser for such a small car, very solid and quiet. Written off one year ago when an off duty cop went around a snowy corner a little too fast. I thought I was in trouble when the on-duty cop showed up at the accident and said to the other driver "Hi Mike, what happened here?" Fortunately Mike told the truth, and he got the demerits while I got the check from the insurance company. I still miss the nice bass on the four speaker stereo.

2005 Accord. Our limo. Biggest car we've ever owned (the Winstar wasn't really a car, it was a curse with wheels). Still going strong, touch wood.

2009 Civic, paid for by the insurance company. Superb gas mileage and handling, but a bit noisy. OK car, but I still get a little misty eyed when I see a 2001 Corolla drive by.
3007) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Puns and Spoonerisms (Message 964216)
Posted 17 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Did you hear about the Dentist of the Year? They gave him some plaque.
3008) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 964213)
Posted 17 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yeah rick, SW Ontario can be a great place to visit in the winter. Living here is another matter.
3009) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The joke thread Part 3. (Message 964025)
Posted 17 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
How many hardware engineers does it take to change a lightbulb?

None. They wait for Marketing to explain it as a feature.
3010) Message boards : News : We started sending out our annual year-end donation drive mass e-mail (Message 963662)
Posted 16 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

I'm getting more an more dissapointed in things like no real time link between the Ground Station and Berkley. With all of NASA's links and TDRSS why can't the GS ship up data real time?


I though that NASA was pretty much forbidden by the government from much involvement in any SETI program.


Radar systems interfering with reception. I worked on SAT systems in the 70's where we solved those issues with blankers and PRF / PRT syncs. Like what kind of engineering is going on?


How many light years did your signals travel before they ran into radar signals on earth?
3011) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's Give us a CAPTION XVII (Message 963374)
Posted 15 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:



OK, now we pick up the girls and their stuff, then its off to Disneyland!
3012) Message boards : Technical News : Continuous (Jan 12 2010) (Message 963364)
Posted 14 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
To start from scratch you must first create the universe :D


But where would you get what the universe started from?
3013) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 963319)
Posted 14 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It feels like Spring! Snow is melting, I can actually see parts of my driveway, and some of the clouds are a funny blue colour. What is the big bright light in the sky?

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 3:00 PM EST Thursday 14 January 2010
Condition: Partly Cloudy
Pressure: 101.8 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 16 km

Temperature: 0.7°C (33F)
Dewpoint: -3.1°C
Humidity: 76 %
Wind: S 18 km/h
3014) Message boards : Technical News : Continuous (Jan 12 2010) (Message 963313)
Posted 14 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
When all humanity's technology breaks down, we start over with a farm and a hoe.


Actually, you would have to invent the hoe first. And metal working, unless it is a wooden hoe. Then you just need to invent stone tools and figure out how to use them for wood working.

We live in an age of specialization (it started a few thousand years ago). You need to learn a speciality of your own, then find other specialists you can trust, and that need your services.
3015) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kenzie’s Shoe-Krazy Fund Raising Challenge (Message 963061)
Posted 13 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I am terrible at puns, but I am always amazed at how threads sometimes take on a life of their own. :D


Yeah, I'm no good either. That's why I just pulled a runner and didn't take part in this thread. Made me feel like a real heel.
3016) Message boards : Cafe SETI : International Year of Biodiversity (Message 962749)
Posted 11 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Taking my lead from the Kyoto protocol and the recent meetings in Denmark, I have set a non-binding voluntary guideline of consuming 20 per cent less meat from endangered species than I did in 2005.
3017) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 962735)
Posted 11 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Special news flash for our UK weather freaks:

We have had an ITV film crew here in "our" London for the last few days. Apparently they are working on a special presentation on how "this" London deals with cold weather and a few meters of snow each year, in comparison to how "the original" London is handling it this year. Look for a TV special soon.

They didn't ask me, but I could have told them that switching from white wine to red wine is essential for winter survival here on the frontier. That, plus a snow blower, a healthy son to run it, and a full gas can.

Added in an edit: local weather experts are saying the European winter this year is a result of a shift in the Gulfstream path, and it may be permanent! In other words, what you got this year could be your future.
3018) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Mel Brooks tribute.... (Message 962261)
Posted 9 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As a long time people watcher and lurker on these boards, I think the discussion between Robert and Mark pretty well sums up the differences between Canadians and Americans.

Not saying one is right and one is wrong, just saying that the two can be saying similar things in such different ways that they often lead to heated discussions over not much of anything.

Hope the US mods leave this post. Thank you (in joke for the Canucks).
3019) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's Give us a CAPTION XVII (Message 962260)
Posted 9 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, that's about ten. nobody used the one I expected: "Casting call for Broadway's newest play, Bambi - the Musical". All good, so the winners are picked totally at random, just like elections in some countries.

3rd place to Rick B "Manitoulin Island's environmentally friendly snow removal crew"

2nd place to skildude "Tell me again...Were in line for what?"

AND THE WINNER IS ...

John McL. VII with "Hey, you up there. Yea, you. You are holding up the line. Get a move on."

PM to be dispatched post haste.
3020) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #106 - For the once and Future Kitty (Message 962098)
Posted 9 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wouldn't that just rip the plane in half?


To quote Monty Python:

Ah. I had not fully divined your attitude towards your customers.
3021) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's Give us a CAPTION XVII (Message 962093)
Posted 8 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Message received. Personally, I though the other guys were much funnier. Working on a new picture now.

OK, keeping with the large masses theme. This was taken just off Highway 6, on Manitoulin Island, a little north of me. And before anybody else says it - oh deer!

3022) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's Give us a CAPTION XVII (Message 961994)
Posted 8 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Trans Punjabi Railways is pleased to announce extra first class space on all its trains.
3023) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #106 - For the once and Future Kitty (Message 961991)
Posted 8 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I never flew off a snowy runway. I mostly used a grass strip. There was no way to know the condition of the ground underneath when covered in snow.



you don't need to know the condition of the ground, just the snow. Up here in The Great White North we fly off snow quite a bit. Depth perception can be a bit tricky, sort of like landing on very smooth water. The solution is to have your ground crew mark the perimeter of the landing area. That is why they have to drink all that beer.

At least that's what they told me.
3024) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 961920)
Posted 8 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Condition: Light Snow <---Regular snow with half the calories?


no, that would be New Improved Snow Lite.


Bill, I wish you'd keep your cold stuff on your side of the border. :)


Crappy weather knows no borders. The air mass over you is due to hit us by Saturday, with forecast lows of -16C (+3F). We stay reletively warm here, as long as the lakes are open. It takes quite some time to freeze a gazillion gallons of water, until that happens I'm surrounded by great big tubs of relatively warm water.

The air mass over you right now is also over our eastern prairies, away from the lakes. Here are last night's lows from out that way:

Winnipeg: -28C (-18F)
The Pas, Shilo, Brandon, and a bunch of other places: -33C (-27F)
Flin Flon: -35C (-31F)
Estevan: -38C (-36F)

Plus high winds, with wind chills forecast today of -40C to -45C (-40F to -49F). Ain't winter grand?
3025) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 961899)
Posted 8 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Back to snow last night, after two whole days off. Just got in from shovelling about 2 inches (5 cm) out of the drive. The weather guy says it's not lake effect squalls anymore, just a front passing through. Is that supposed to make me feel better?

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EST Friday 8 January 2010
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 101.4 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 2 km

Temperature: -8.4°C
Dewpoint: -10.2°C
Humidity: 87 %
Wind: N 13 km/h
Wind Chill: -14
3026) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #106 - For the once and Future Kitty (Message 961898)
Posted 8 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for a win.

Andy, plastic pipes can split when they freeze - been there, mopped up that. If it is only a short length, you might be OK, as the expanding ice moves along the pipe. If it gets stopped at a valve, or if two segments freeze and the ice moves towards each other, then the expanding ice tries to go laterally. As somebody else posted, if you can keep the water running, even at a trickle, it will delay the freezing and thus the breaking. Sounds crazy, but when you get your toilet thawed, and it looks like another cold snap, fiddle with the toilet mechanism such that it has a slow leak. In North America you just raise the float level such that a small trickle always runs into the overflow stand pipe. When it warms up, lower the float. A slight increase in your water bill is stil cheaper and easier than tearing out a wall to replace a burst pipe. Been there too, paid for all that.

If this weather becomes common in the UK, I foresee great sales opportunities for a range of household products sold in Canada: pipe insulation, pipe heaters, handy dandy insulation kits, things that make your taps leak on purpose, etc. Some of them work, some of them just make you feel better, but they all make money for somebody.
3027) Message boards : Number crunching : Pi just got a little bit bigger (Message 961787)
Posted 8 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Actually, you would get 3.14159... apples if you asked for 10 of them. Talking about a non obvious base.


Sorry. Wrong. You have just used 5 different digits to approximate 10 base pi. You only get to use pi different digits.
3028) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #106 - For the once and Future Kitty (Message 961761)
Posted 8 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
<<<<<--------in a White Album mood...



Number 9 ... number 9 .... number 9 ....
3029) Message boards : Number crunching : Pi just got a little bit bigger (Message 961718)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Or you get just a singular "1" (unity) if you instead count in Pi as your number base.

Keep searchin',
(But keep out of the Hilbert Hotel!)

Martin


Now my brain really hurts. I thought "base" in this context meant the number of digits used in the numbering system. Binary has two (base 2), decimal has ten (base 10), and so on.

Please provide us the pi digits used in your proposed system.
3030) Message boards : Number crunching : Pi just got a little bit bigger (Message 961675)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I hope that these people are calculating all these extra digits as an exercise in numerical methods and/or computing science, not to prove if pi is rational or not. Otherwise, it is all just "welfare for geeks" (as somebody recently said on these forums).

The story was about one guy, and how his new algorithm was so fast he could raise the "record" using a PC, when the previous number was calculated on a Supercomputer.

.... and I got the impression that this might not have been "funded" research.

Maybe he just wanted to impress geek-girls.


So, like, it's volunteer computing? Hey, what an idea .....
3031) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 961672)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Great satellite picture here showing the extent of the icy weather over the normally temperate UK.


WOW! Even Canada has a few green spots out on the Left Coast this time of year. Good luck Andy, and everybody else there.

Even Ireland next door from what little I could see, Looked Greener, Keep warm guys. :D


Perhaps snow is green in Ireland. They seem to be very fond of that colour.
3032) Message boards : Number crunching : Pi just got a little bit bigger (Message 961671)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
"welfare for geeks"

LOL! I missed it the first time round, but I'll remember it now.


IIRC, it was the lovely Angela. Not talking about what her hubby does for a living, of course.
3033) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 961664)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Great satellite picture here showing the extent of the icy weather over the normally temperate UK.


WOW! Even Canada has a few green spots out on the Left Coast this time of year. Good luck Andy, and everybody else there.
3034) Message boards : Number crunching : Pi just got a little bit bigger (Message 961659)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You are all making my brain hurt. It helps, though, if I can share the pain with others.

The number and type of digits, and their patterns, in a number are a result of it being irrational or rational. They do not define the "rationality" of the number. The basic definition is (simplifying to ease the pain in my brain) rational numbers can be expressed as a fraction (i.e. a ratio of two whole numbers). Irrationals cannot. Pi has been proven irrational, way back when.

If, for example, we find that the next 2.7 trillion digits, or the next 2.7 times 10 to the 2.7 trillion digits, are all zeros, pi remains irrational. Somewhere, further out there, the zeros will stop and the apparent randomness will start up again. If we can't get to that point, it just proves that we don't have an infinite amount of CPU time (or an infinite amount of pencils and paper) to apply to the problem. Google Cantor Paradox to find out enough about infinity to make your brain hurt as well.

I hope that these people are calculating all these extra digits as an exercise in numerical methods and/or computing science, not to prove if pi is rational or not. Otherwise, it is all just "welfare for geeks" (as somebody recently said on these forums).
3035) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #106 - For the once and Future Kitty (Message 961627)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


That's like about $480 a month...


I know, it's going to cripple me financially this month if the cold continues. Everyone I know is hoping and praying that things will start to improve, but word is there is another major snowfall due over the weekend which will only add to the already laying ice & snow which is helping drag the temperatures down day & night.

I moved to this part of the UK for it's temperate climate - I may as well have gone to the North pole!


Be careful what you wish for Andy. Here is today's weather at the station closest to the pole:

Observed at: Alert Airport
Date: 3:00 PM EST Thursday 7 January 2010
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 101.6 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 3 km

Temperature: -25.2°C
Dewpoint: -28.6°C
Humidity: 73 %
Wind: SW 35 km/h
Wind Chill: -40

Yesterday Max: -27.1°C Min: -31.0°C

And just a few more weeks until the sun comes up again.
3036) Message boards : Number crunching : Pi just got a little bit bigger (Message 961625)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
ISTR there's a sci-fi story that is based on finding a long string of repeating 0's (zeroes) in Pi.

Not sure why it'd be a sci-fi. If there are an infinite number of digits, and the probability of any digit is 1 in 10, then the law of large numbers says that there will be an infinitely long string of zeros somewhere in an infinitely long number.


Of course, that infinitely long string of zeros would only be an infinitesimal portion of the whole string of digits making up pi.

Thinking like this makes my brain hurt.
3037) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #106 - For the once and Future Kitty (Message 961596)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
From someone a little further North in North America: For a 3 bedroom detached house, I average about $75 per month for gas, plus $110 a month for electricity. That includes BOINC, of course, plus it gets dark about 4:30 around here this time of year. Both will be a lot lower in about 5 months.

Of couse, that is all in Canadian $. Converting to US would be about 5% less (this week).

Did I win?
3038) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #106 - For the once and Future Kitty (Message 961556)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Congrats SJ, howdy everybody else ... and ... I WIN!

Thanks Bill.

And no My Young Apprentice You haven't read My clues.


My Jedi training kicks in whenever somebody mentions Order 66. I'm sending this message from a mobile device, on my way to Dagobah. Too busy running and hiding to sort through clues I am.

Also, winning I will be.
3039) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #106 - For the once and Future Kitty (Message 961533)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Congrats SJ, howdy everybody else ... and ... I WIN!
3040) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kenzie’s Shoe-Krazy Fund Raising Challenge (Message 961519)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So what kind of shoes did you buy?


Oh, just a boring pair of orange pumps. I really wanted to get the fancy fetish ones but figured I ought to go with something that I can wear more than once a year. :p


We want pictures, dammit!!! :)


Yeah, pictures!
3041) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's your favourite television series? (Message 961518)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Red Dwarf


Smeg! Haven't seen that one in years! There was a cat that even a dog guy like me could like.
3042) Message boards : Number crunching : Pi just got a little bit bigger (Message 961378)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Seems to me that the size of Pi is unchanged, and so is the number of digits that have yet to be calculated.


Very true Ned. Should we be funding this research based on how much they decreased the number of remaining digits in the last budget cycle?
3043) Message boards : Number crunching : Pi just got a little bit bigger (Message 961269)
Posted 6 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think the ancient Greeks "solved" pi many moons ago. It is exactly the ratio of the circumference of a perfect circle to its diameter. Problems start when we try to express that "exact solution" as a numerical value.
3044) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Barbie doll thread. (Message 961184)
Posted 6 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
However is does want me to make a request to the BOINC Server people for a way to killfile a thread.


Maybe we need a message board for creepy fetishes?
3045) Message boards : Number crunching : Hardware noob (Message 960968)
Posted 5 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
you'd think that the EU would start unifying the electrical grid in Europe so you'd need adaptors for old gear and have a unified plug for all new stuff.


Oh sure. Just as soon as they agree on which existing national standard to adapt. Or spend umpteen years and a gazillion Euros to come up with a totally new one.
3046) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 960886)
Posted 5 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another inch of snow last night, another inch or four forcast by the end of today. Weather alert downgraded from "snow squall warning" (means its snowing like crazy right now) to "snow squall alert" (meaning it will probably snow like crazy real soon). Just west of here has been averaging 15 cm (6 inches) every 12 hours since Saturday, this should continue for the rest of the week. Roads closed, schools closed, etc. But the REALLY bad weather has been on our east coast. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2010/01/04/storm-maritimes.html

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EST Tuesday 5 January 2010
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 101.5 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 16 km

Temperature: -8.9°C
Dewpoint: -10.5°C
Humidity: 88 %
Wind: NW 5 km/h
Wind Chill: -12
3047) Message boards : Cafe SETI : From Our Home To Yours (Message 960885)
Posted 5 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yeah, it used to bother me when I was offered the senior's discount, but my Scottish heritage finally won out over my vanity. Now I'm upset when they DON'T offer it. Won't offically be a senior for 8 more years but, hey, if they want to give me money...
3048) Message boards : Number crunching : OUTAGE REMINDER: READ FIRST BEFORE POSTING CONNECTIVITY PROBLEMS (Message 960884)
Posted 5 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I was in NY (first visit) back in October at the end of a trip through New England and southern Canada - sampling the available (local) brews on the way round, of course. Nothing has ever seemed so anomolous as drinking Old Speckled Hen in Macy's Cellar.
I applaud your taste, Phud.

F.


Hope you had a chance to try 10W30, Canada's finest dark ale, brewed just north of London (our London, that is).

Received a bottle of Duchy ale for Christmas, allegedly made on Prince Charle's estate. Well done Chuck!

Oh, and about the outage/outrage heated discussion: I'm still crunching SETI, looks like I'm good to this evening. A total non-event, in my opinion.
3049) Message boards : Cafe SETI : so long David Tennant (Message 960768)
Posted 5 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The Doctor is gone. Long live the Doctor!
3050) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 960597)
Posted 3 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just took a picture out my back door, so you can see what 2 days of "snow squalls" looks like. To put this in perspective, we had less than 1 inch of snow on the ground Christmas day, none on the deck or garden shed. What you see here has all happened in the last 48 hours. We won't be barbecuing for a few days.

3051) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 960581)
Posted 3 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Bill

Ill see your 10 cm and raise you another 15 cm.

Snow Squall watch : Barrie - Collingwood - Hillsdale
Issued at 4:55 AM EST Sunday 3 January 2010

Summary
Snows qualls off Huron and Georgian Bay may affect the regions with low visibilities and accumulation to 15 centimetres possible.



Didn't quite make 10 cm last night, only about 8. But it looks like we're not through for the day. Note the government's use of their secret code word for "my driveway" again.

Snow squall warning in effect.

Today Flurries except a few snow squalls over northwestern sections. Local amount 10 cm. Local blowing snow. Wind north 30 km/h gusting to 50. High minus 7C (19F). Wind chill minus 25C (-13F) this morning.
3052) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 960392)
Posted 2 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Up to our armpits in snow here, forecast to continue through tomorrow. God bless my snow blower!

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 6:00 PM EST Saturday 2 January 2010
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 102.1 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 16 km

Temperature: -11.7°C (11F)
Dewpoint: -13.7°C
Humidity: 85 %
Wind: NW 9 km/h
Wind Chill: -17 (1F)

Snow squall warning in effect.

Tonight Flurries except local snow squalls over northwestern sections. Local amount 10 cm. Wind northwest 30 km/h gusting to 50 becoming light early this evening. Low minus 13.

For those of you not familiar with local geography, "northwestern sections" means "Walker's driveway".
3053) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 960276)
Posted 2 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I love children, if they are properly cooked.

WC Fields
3054) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 960041)
Posted 2 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

That'll freeze the bells off your Christmas tree.



Sounds like where I grew up out west.

Edmonton: Tonight A few clouds. Increasing cloudiness this evening with 30 percent chance of flurries overnight. Wind up to 15 km/h. Low minus 22 (-8F). Wind chill minus 28 (-19F) this evening.

Still better than CFB Alert, where the low yesterday was -35C (-31F).

Note that both of these are normal reports, not alerts. They save the alerts for when it gets really cold. Like most Canadians, I'm secretly in favour of global warming.
3055) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 959984)
Posted 2 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Glad the Forums are back, so I can gripe about the weather. Many thanks to whomever/whatever fixed it.

Paraphrasing the offical forecast: scattered crap, turning into continuous crap overnight, with 30 cm (about a foot) of crap by tomorrow afternoon.

London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 PM EST Friday 1 January 2010
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 101.8 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 3 km

Temperature: -6.4°C (20F)
Dewpoint: -8.3°C
Humidity: 86 %
Wind: NW 17 km/h
Wind Chill: -12

London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County
4:15 PM EST Friday 01 January 2010
Snow squall warning for
London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County continued
3056) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 959980)
Posted 2 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Duct tape is like The Force. It has a Dark Side and a Light Side, but it is the Light Side that holds the universe together.
3057) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's your favourite television series? (Message 959978)
Posted 2 Jan 2010 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hockey Night in Canada. Especially back in the last century, when the Leafs still won a few.
3058) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 959770)
Posted 31 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Why am I living here? I hate snow.


But Rick, it is only flurries and squalls so far. The serious snow doesn't start for another few days.
3059) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 959769)
Posted 31 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
One must, of course, always remember Fud's First Law: If it goes in, it must come out.
(from Firesign Theater)


I thought Fud's first law was "if you push anything hard enough, it will fall over".

(also from Firesign Theater)
3060) Message boards : Number crunching : I don't get it?? (Message 959768)
Posted 31 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
From the last line of Matt_Giwer's post.....

I don't know what it is, but I wouldn't want to get close to it without a set of heavy rubber gloves.


Oh. THAT smug power. Well, after living in LA for 4 years, I am naturally suspicious of anything from SF.
3061) Message boards : Number crunching : Power Outage Recovery - Information (Message 959767)
Posted 31 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I do multiple projects, so I never run out of work.



I am doing the same, but my second project (Rosetta) is running dry as well. :-(


Try Milky Way. It has its ups and downs, but when it is up it is UP. It will grab all your CPUs for a few days, and then everything else will go High Priority for a few days. Also, I find the science behind it very interesting, and very well explained on their home page.

Note to Mods: of course, I'm saying run this AS WELL AS Seti.
3062) Message boards : Number crunching : I don't get it?? (Message 959676)
Posted 31 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
UC Berkeley is one of those 3rd world campuses which occasionally is without electricity. This is usually related to the sacrifice of the black goat of Siddharta in which the entrails must be consumed by moonlight. However these days the problem is due to his Teutonic majesty, Arnold the Dark, who shuts off power to save money. At the moment there is no projection as to when UCB will connect to the Berkeley power grid and cease reliance upon smug power from SF.

Wow. I didn't realize that "his Teutonic magesty" was saving money by improving (increasing capacity) power distribution on campus.

Seems that making more power available would do the opposite.


It's not just about the money Ned. It's about power. And goat entrails.

Don't forget "smug power."


Sorry, that's too subtle for me. The closest Google gets me is "Smurf Power", but that is probably not what you're talking about.
3063) Message boards : Number crunching : I don't get it?? (Message 959672)
Posted 31 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
UC Berkeley is one of those 3rd world campuses which occasionally is without electricity. This is usually related to the sacrifice of the black goat of Siddharta in which the entrails must be consumed by moonlight. However these days the problem is due to his Teutonic majesty, Arnold the Dark, who shuts off power to save money. At the moment there is no projection as to when UCB will connect to the Berkeley power grid and cease reliance upon smug power from SF.

Wow. I didn't realize that "his Teutonic magesty" was saving money by improving (increasing capacity) power distribution on campus.

Seems that making more power available would do the opposite.


It's not just about the money Ned. It's about power. And goat entrails.

As an aside, I've signed up for Milky Way, which every few days takes over my entire CPU capacity like some dark Teutonic über ap. As a result, SETI sits idle. This time, I totally missed all the power failures, invalid results, etc., but my CPUs kept on crunching. Milky Way has just returned to digital Valhalla for a rest, as it sometimes does, and SETI came right back.
3064) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's Give us a CAPTION XVI (Message 959582)
Posted 30 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
When musically inclined dogs dream....
3065) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 959454)
Posted 30 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This ain't light pole licking weather boys and girls!


Of course, you don't REALLY know if you can lick the light pole until you try it. Come on. I dare yah....
3066) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 959277)
Posted 29 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Currently have some sun in Wasaga Beach but its not the best weather for the Olympic Torch Relay. They should be running through one now in the Collingwood Area. I'm waiting for it to come to Wasaga Beach in about an hour and then Ill make my way back home through the squalls again.


I see You have some protesters who don't seem to understand the Olympics at all up there.

Oh and It's 35°F / 2°C here and partly cloudy, The weather report says clear, But My window says otherwise.


Had some sun here in the deep south an hour ago. The wind then shifted ever so slightly, and the snow squall that was just west of the city is now squalling all over my driveway. Wx radar says 2 cm per hour, just under an inch per hour.

Yes, SJ, we have our share of crazies here too. At least nobody is trying to blow us up (just now).
3067) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 959260)
Posted 29 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Whole mess o'snow overnight, with more on the way. Fortunately my son is off school this week, and he promised to shovel. Just have to get him up.....

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 9:00 AM EST Tuesday 29 December 2009
Condition: Mostly Cloudy
Pressure: 102.8 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -12.3°C (10F)
Dewpoint: -14.9°C
Humidity: 81 %
Wind: NE 4 km/h
Wind Chill: -15

London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County
4:53 AM EST Tuesday 29 December 2009
Snow squall warning for
London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County continued

..Snowsquall bands have developed off Lake Huron and Georgian Bay..

Brisk winds and falling temperatures are affecting the lower Great Lakes in the wake of a sharp cold front. Snow squalls continue to the Lee of Georgian Bay and Lake Huron.

The main squall off Georgian Bay continues to affect the Collingwood area southeast towards Alliston.

A more intense single squall has developed off Lake Huron extending from Grand Bend to just west of London to Port Stanley. Weaker squalls continue north of the main band affecting areas near the Lake Huron shoreline of Huron county.

Further snowfall amounts under the more intense snow squalls may reach 15 to 20 centimetres in some locales this morning. As well, winds gusting up to 50 km/h are likely to produce near zero visibilities in blowing snow.

These squalls are expected to weaken and shift early this afternoon, as the winds abate.

3068) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Excited about Avatar? Or meh? (Message 959170)
Posted 29 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Finally got to see it, after scheduling problems resulting from colds and bad weather. Very good 3D effects, OK sort of story. Apparently the environment is good, people who don't understand that are bad. And not just ordinary bad - really bad, with scars and big guns. Really educational. Still, worth it just for the effects.
3069) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Winter Solstice (Message 957926)
Posted 21 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
About bloody time. Bring on the sunshine!
3070) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Excited about Avatar? Or meh? (Message 957702)
Posted 21 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hope to see it tomorrow, also in 3D. I'll let you know what I think.
3071) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who wears the pants at your house? (Message 957553)
Posted 20 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Loosely related trivia quiz:

Which TV character said "I haven't worn underwear since 1971." Hint: he was a lawyer.
3072) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 957540)
Posted 20 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A few sunny days are starting to turn our white Christmas into a brown/grey Christmas. Chance of flurries tomorrow, and then snow on Christmas Eve.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 9:00 AM EST Sunday 20 December 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 101.8 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -5.0°C (23F)
Dewpoint: -12.3°C
Humidity: 57 %
Wind: W 8 km/h
Wind Chill: -9
3073) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . To All of You here @ the SETI Cafe - Happy 2010 (Message 957323)
Posted 19 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A Merry one to all....I pray for people to be safe and sober if they're driving (or posting).


I will be driving sober, or not at all. Can't promise about the posting, however.
3074) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's Give us a CAPTION XVI (Message 957322)
Posted 19 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All rightie then, that's way more than ten most excellent captions. Some multiple entries, but I'm willing to bend the rules. They were all good, so my choices are totally random and completely arbitrary.

Special mention to Superjoker for both quantity and quality. I totally liked "turtle power!"

Third place - Carlos: "I won the caption thread?"

Second place - Rick B: "I am not a crook"

And the most excellent winner, is, like totally,

Blurf: "Look at the fins on her"

Party on, Blurf!
3075) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's Give us a CAPTION XVI (Message 957185)
Posted 18 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, what can we do with this?

3076) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's Give us a CAPTION XVI (Message 957182)
Posted 18 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm here! I'm here! Just got in from Xmas shopping, give me a minute to find a picture.
3077) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's Give us a CAPTION XVI (Message 956846)
Posted 17 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What do you mean asbestos mitigation?


Just so that no one get's the wrong idea, we did do asbestos mitigation, turned off and capped the gas, water and waste water lines at the street plus had the power company cut the power at the pole. Even did an endangered plant survey, remember I'm in Santa Barbara County, the birthplace of the enviornmental movement.


Hate to be a buzz kill, but you should probably look into the Cal OSHA guidelines for guarding on demolition equipment before you do this again.
3078) Message boards : Technical News : Precedence Bulk (Dec 10 2009) (Message 956845)
Posted 17 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I guess that means that David Anderson doesn't read this board, and no informed him of the mistake in the email that was sent out under Dan Werthimer's name last week.

Martin.


So I guess this means that busy people with real jobs don't read the forums.

Just joking (sort of).
3079) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . To All of You here @ the SETI Cafe - Happy 2010 (Message 956809)
Posted 17 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The same back at you Dr., and to everybody else here.
3080) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's Give us a CAPTION XVI (Message 955244)
Posted 16 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:



Hey wait a minute. What was the number on that house? Oh well ....
3081) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 955185)
Posted 16 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It's hot mate...38C 101F


Oh sure, rub it in.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EST Wednesday 16 December 2009
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 103.0 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 19 km

Temperature: -7.9°C (18F)
Dewpoint: -11.5°C
Humidity: 75 %
Wind: W 22 km/h
Wind Chill: -16
3082) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 954973)
Posted 15 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just a little bit south of Rick it's a little warmer, and the snow has started. They may become freezing rain later, followed by high winds. Oh joy.


I think I'll take the snow over the freezing rain Bill. Forecasting 15 cm / 12 hrs over the next day or so around here.


Agreed. My snow blower will munch right through 15 cm, but won't do much to ice. Fortunately I have lots of salt and sand in a dry place.
3083) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 954969)
Posted 15 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just a little bit south of Rick it's a little warmer, and the snow has started. They may become freezing rain later, followed by high winds. Oh joy.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 9:23 AM EST Tuesday 15 December 2009
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 100.0 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 4 km

Temperature: 0.6°C (33F)
Dewpoint: -0.1°C
Humidity: 95 %
Wind: NW 8 km/h

Today Cloudy. 60 percent chance of drizzle or wet flurries early this morning. Flurries beginning this morning. Local snowfall amount 2 to 4 cm. Wind becoming west 30 km/h gusting to 50 (30 mph) late this afternoon. High plus 1 with temperature falling to minus 3 this afternoon.

Tonight Flurries ending early this evening then clearing. Wind west 30 km/h gusting to 50. Low minus 10 (14F).
3084) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 954768)
Posted 14 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wow! Why don't your eyeballs freeze?! LOL


They will, if you don't blink regularly. The salt in tears is only enough to lower the freezing point to about -3C. Of course, you would have to suck a lot of heat out your head first to get your eyeballs down to that, but it does happen.

I see Edmonton (just a bit east of Robert) set a new record Saturday night, -46C.

That's -51F, and it is without the wind. Western Canada is stuck in a nasty bit of weather right now. Reading about those poor b*st*rds out there makes our weather a lot easier to take.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 12:19 PM EST Monday 14 December 2009
Condition: Light Drizzle
Pressure: 100.0 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 4 km

Temperature: 2.5°C (37F)
Dewpoint: 1.6°C
Humidity: 96 %
Wind: ESE 9 km/h
3085) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 954276)
Posted 12 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But its all in the norm for us here . . . No need to call in the army ...



Most people outside of Canada won't get that reference. And most people in Toronto will pretend they don't get it either ;).

For the education of all ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUXoFLouhU8
3086) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SPACE!!! (Message 954270)
Posted 12 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Showing my age here, but I grew up on the early Disney man-to-the-moon cartoons. Anybody have a link to those? For me, the Mercury and Gemini were a bit of a let down, they weren't half as cool as the Disney stuff.

Plus, I'm still waiting for my flying car. It is the 21st century, after all.

Found some clips of Youtube, start at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCK3q8uJoMY
3087) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Christmas as a kid... (Message 954269)
Posted 12 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think I know some of what you are feeling Hiamps. Christmas Past had so many good times that it is sometimes hard for Christmas Present to live up to the memories. Part of my problem may be that the memories have been "filtered" over the years, leaving only the really good stuff.

I often find this time of year depressing when I focus on all the greed around me, and all the "one-up-manship" that goes into entertaining, decorating and gift giving. I have to force myself to focus on the positive aspects. For me that means family, and helping others, even if they are not family.

For several years now the grownups in my close family has been exchanging charitable donations, "in the name of...". Last year I got my brother-in-law a goat, delivered to a family in Africa. This year my sister-in-law is getting us all bags of corn seed, delivered to families in South America. We all really don't need any more crap, and these gifts mean as much to me now as the neatest toy I ever received way back when.

The family has grown smaller over time, as older relatives pass away and younger relatives move away and start families of their own. That makes the few that remain all the more special. Keep them close at this time of year, and it may help with your sad thoughts.

And turn down that bloody Christmas music!
3088) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 954188)
Posted 12 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What a glorious winter morning, after the cr*p of the last few days. Clear, bright sun on fresh snow, no wind. A classical winter day.

Now that we've done that, spring can start anytime.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 10:00 AM EST Saturday 12 December 2009
Condition: Sunny
Pressure: 103.1 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -3.6°C (26F)
Dewpoint: -8.7°C
Humidity: 68 %
Wind: S 8 km/h
Wind Chill: -7
3089) Message boards : Number crunching : WOW! Where on earth did that come from? (Message 954001)
Posted 11 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
.... absolutely nothing. The proverbial black cat in a coal cellar.


Of course, that is what THEY would want us to see when we looked there .....
3090) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 953932)
Posted 11 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Have you looked at the sodium content on it? It's enough to raise your blood pressure. For the social good they will have to ban Dr. Pepper!


You can toy with my national sovereignty, and mess with my health care - but don't touch my Dr. Pepper!
3091) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's Give us a CAPTION XVI (Message 953762)
Posted 11 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


So, L for leaning over too far, right? Right?
3092) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 953760)
Posted 11 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wind picking up, snow falling, it really feels like winter. Looks like much more snow up around Goderich.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 9:00 PM EST Thursday 10 December 2009
Condition: Partly Cloudy
Pressure: 101.3 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -9.9°C
Dewpoint: -15.0°C
Humidity: 66 %
Wind: WSW 37 gust 50 km/h
Wind Chill: -20
3093) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 953721)
Posted 10 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

And in exchange we'll get cheaper prescription drugs. It's a win-win situation.
Btw, I had 2 cans of Dr. Pepper with my lunch today. Tasty.


Drugs are cheaper here because of the way our government controls and funds drug research and production. When the US takes us over that will all be gone, and it will be good health for the rich only.

Still, I might give up some drugs for real Dr. Pepper.
3094) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 953674)
Posted 10 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Since my last blog posting successfully reignited the war of 1812, lets see if we can re-start another one. . .

Discuss amongst yourselves. Let the beatings begin!

;)

I'm still waiting for the US to annex Canada. We could use a few more states.


Right on. We could use some of your bail out money, and the same sort of free access to US markets that the US currently has in Canada. Plus, we could finally get real Dr. Pepper, instead of the swill they sell up here.
3095) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 953633)
Posted 10 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A near freezing 36F overnight in Lake Charles, LA.


Near Freezing?!?!?! That's terrible. I'll play you a sad song on my violin, right after I chip it out of the ice ;).

And before anybody else in southern Ontario chimes in about their lousy weather, here's what's happening today at Canada's most northerly defence base, where the sun set a few weeks ago, and will come up in a few more:

Observed at: Alert Airport
Date: 11:00 AM EST Thursday 10 December 2009
Condition: Clear and Friggin' Cold and Totally Dark
Pressure: 102.9 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -31.8°C (-25 F)
Dewpoint: -35.4°C
Humidity: 70 %
Wind: W 11 km/h
Wind Chill: -42(-44 F)
3096) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 953600)
Posted 10 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Rick; a range of stuff - helicopters, light aircraft, forestry machines, construction machines and ag machines. Anything for a buck ;).

We get the tail end of the lake effect squalls here in London, and they can be incredibly local. I've left my house in west London under clear skies, no snow on the ground, and driven through terrible snow storms on the 401 before breaking out into the sun and green fields again at Woodstock, about 65 klicks away.

When my wife worked for the Thames Valley School Board, they covered a fairly large area, including London and several surrounding rural townships. They would call a "snow day" when they couldn't get into their headquarters building in downtown London, even when we had blue skies and no snow out here in the 'burbs.

Snow here is picking up now, but from the radar it looks like Parry Sound and area is getting a heavy hit. Check out their radar. http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=WKR
3097) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 953582)
Posted 10 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We are just catching the south edge of it Rick, with only about 1 cm so far (half an inch for our Yank readers). Wind is back to normal, had gusts to 35 knots last night. Had to chase Christmas wreaths across the lawn in the dark.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EST Thursday 10 December 2009
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 100.1 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 2 km

Temperature: -4.7°C (23F)
Dewpoint: -7.1°C (19F)
Humidity: 83 %
Wind: W 24 gust 39 km/h (13 knots, gusting to 21 knots)
Wind Chill: -12 (10F)
3098) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 953580)
Posted 10 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've never met a "Canadian." Personally, I think they're an urban myth.


Fine by me.
3099) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 953459)
Posted 9 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
11.5 inches (29cm) of new snow fell today here in New Hampshire. I think it was the same system that hit Bill Walker earlier. This pretty much assures that we'll have a white Christmas.


Sorry, but we are expecting even more snow tonight and tomorrow. You should see it by Friday. Sigh.
3100) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 953362)
Posted 9 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Interesting forecast here for the next few days, as we get the storm that just dumped on the US Southwest and Chicago.

Snow tonight, turning to rain by sunrise, turning to snow and high winds by mid tomorrow.

Think I'll stay home.


Im North East of you Bill. When this system gets to you ... keep it there will ya! :)



Well, it's peeing down rain here now, on top of last night's snow. I assume it must be snowing like mad where you are.

The east shore of Lake Huron, from Goderich up to Tobermory and across to Collingwood is world renowned for heavy wet snow. Aerospace and equipment manufacturers from around the world test their products there. I did it three times back in the 1990s for a German company, and it looks like I might be back there in January or February next year for another European firm. There is no snow like Tobermory snow.
3101) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 953289)
Posted 9 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Interesting forecast here for the next few days, as we get the storm that just dumped on the US Southwest and Chicago.

Snow tonight, turning to rain by sunrise, turning to snow and high winds by mid tomorrow.

Think I'll stay home.
3102) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hmmm (Message 953006)
Posted 7 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sure, it's all fun and games for a while. I make my living helping to defend the manufacturers and machine owners after somebody gets killed or maimed playing around like that. If you get the name of the operator, I have some accident site photos to share with him.
3103) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 953004)
Posted 7 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Snowing pretty good in London right now, first major snow of the year. Fortunately, got the outside Christams lights up last week.
3104) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's your weather? (Message 952889)
Posted 7 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Mostly clear, cold, and very dry so far this month, maybe snow later this week:

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 9:00 PM EST Sunday 6 December 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 102.5 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 0.0°C 32F
Dewpoint: -5.4°C 22F
Humidity: 67 %
Wind: WSW 21 km/h 11 knots
Wind Chill: -5C 23F
3105) Message boards : Cafe SETI : FreeRice (III) Thanksgiving Donation Challenge - 1,338,970 grains! (Message 952786)
Posted 5 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
1,320 for today.
3106) Message boards : Cafe SETI : FreeRice (III) Thanksgiving Donation Challenge - 1,338,970 grains! (Message 952451)
Posted 4 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
1,050 for me, thats all the time I have today.
3107) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Terminology (Message 951755)
Posted 2 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Affirmation

I know that translation, but it isn't related to 'positive'. ;-)

Gruß,
Gundolf


According to my actual, real, paper, pre-Google dictionary, there are many basic meanings of the word positive, each with several variations. Meaning 6 is "marked by agreement or indication affirmation"

Other possibilities are "prescribed", "no increase or diminution", "incontestable", "real, not fictitious", "greater than zero", "having actual existence" or the electrical usages, that some English major really butchered in my dictionary.
3108) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Left or Right handed? (Message 951668)
Posted 2 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Carlos, I hope you let your daughter decide which hand to use for what. Kids can be taught either way, but they usually have a natural preference. My father was a natural leftie, but the Quebec school system back in the 1930s literally beat him until he used his right hand. As a result, he had horrible hand writing for the rest of his life. And a strong dislike of schools.
3109) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Left or Right handed? (Message 951645)
Posted 2 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Luke;

Like you, I'm a lefty that comes from a long line of lefties, and uses my right hand for the mouse. Probably because the first mouses (mice?) I ever used were at CAD terminals, and that's the way the right-handed chauvinists laid out the work stations.

I play guitar right handed, because I first learned on a guitar borrowed from a rightie. I bated and played hockey left handed, because the bats and sticks are symmetrical (at least at the level I played). I can golf equally poorly in either direction. Sometimes this comes in handy playing mini-golf.

But what still REALLY pisses me off after 57 years is scissors. Why can't somebody come up with scissors that cut both ways? Only slightly less annoying is the righties that can't understand my frustration with trying to cut a piece of paper. If I win the lottery, I might just buy huge quantities of left-handed scissors, and distribute them randomly throughout the world. Let's see how THEY like it.
3110) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Canadian Football League (Message 951372)
Posted 1 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
O seconds left - Riders had 12 men on the line so they got a 10 yard penalty - put Montreal on the 33 yard line - they got a 33 yard field goal - 28-27 for Montreal!


Canadian football is 12 man football...it was the unlucky 13th man that caused the penalty.


The exact problem was 12 men on the line .. plus one in the end zone. Ironically, part of the problem may have been the incredible noise made by the Rider fans, making it difficult for instructions to be passed at the Rider bench.
3111) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's Give us a CAPTION XV (Message 951353)
Posted 1 Dec 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And todays weiner is...


Weiner?


Perhaps based on the classic contest run in Nat. Lamp. magazine back in the 80s, "you may already be a weiner".
3112) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Canadian Football League (Message 950974)
Posted 30 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Now THATS entertainment.

If you scripted an ending like that, nobody would have believed it.

Amazing play from both sides. I'm sorry Saskatchewan lost, but Montreal really earned the win in the second half.
3113) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Canadian Football League (Message 950856)
Posted 29 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm chilling the beer and digging out the snacks. don't expect further posts from me till its all over.
3114) Message boards : Number crunching : No Work/Little Work (Message 950855)
Posted 29 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Following this thread and others about the current problems with great interest. Here is what worked for me when I noticed problems uploading and downloading over this weekend. I highly recommend this technique.

1. Walk away from the computer.
2. Walk the dog, or other small furry creature of your choice.
3. Have a beer.
4. Read a book.
5. Have another beer.
6. come back to computer, to find uploads completed a few hours ago, and downloads started a few minutes ago.

OK, I probably dropped my RAC a bit while walking the dog, but who cares?
3115) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Canadian Football League (Message 950484)
Posted 28 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm stocking up on Moosehead and chips today, and turning off my cell phone tomorrow.

People here in the east don't seem to get quite as crazy as folks back home in the west, probably because the east hardly ever wins (ducks). The wife and I will have a quiet little Grey cup party here at home.
3116) Message boards : Technical News : Take a Break (Nov 26 2009) (Message 950482)
Posted 28 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Otherwise, QUIT WHINING! Act like an adult for a change. Judging from some of the posts here, it'll be the first time in your lives you ever have.

Will


Right on! I wish I'd said that. I probably will say that, the next time somebody whines on these forums.
3117) Message boards : Technical News : Take a Break (Nov 26 2009) (Message 950221)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All my WUs just uploaded as well. Very professional.
3118) Message boards : Technical News : Take a Break (Nov 26 2009) (Message 950203)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why does this project go down EVERY second or third weekend? Rather flakey and very unprofessional in my opinion.


One of the purposes of BOINC projects in general, and SETI in particular, is to develop the concept of distributed computing. SETI leads the pack because of the large numbers of volunteers that have signed up. Every time we (the volunteers) overload SETI and break it down is another useful data point.

Anybody, even the flakey (sic), can run a reliable computer service for a gazillion users, all it takes is time and money. We see it happening every day (YouTube, on-line shopping, etc.). The REAL talent is to run a large distributed project like SETI as a small part of your main job, on a motley collection of second hand and donated equipment. The fact that do as well as they do is far from flakey, and, in my opinion, is highly professional.
3119) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (26) Server problems (Message 949947)
Posted 26 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Fortunately, Milky Way just got back on line, so I can crunch those until SETI gets sorted out. Meanwhile, all you Yanks enjoy your long weekend.
3120) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Canadian Football League (Message 949523)
Posted 24 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Have to agree Robert. My heart says Roughriders, but my head says Alouettes.

Growing up in western Canada I went to many Grey Cup parties that will live in my memory forever, and a few I have a hard time remembering. At least the second half...

Anybody got any Grey Cup blow outs planned?
3121) Message boards : Number crunching : is collatz flooded... ? (Message 948713)
Posted 21 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Who said computers aren't smart. They are certainly aware when you aren't in town.


They know when you've been sleeping.

They know when you're awake.

They know if you've been bad or good....

I've heard that before, somewhere.
3122) Message boards : Number crunching : Ouch...... (Message 948711)
Posted 21 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another issue here in the Great White North, at least when aluminum house wiring first came out, was a lot of less skilled types using aluminum as a straight size for size replacement for copper. Doesn't work that way. Several nasty fires got the insurance companies in a tizzy, and now having aluminum wiring in a house can make it difficult to get insurance, or even a mortgage.

We bought one place back in the 1980s, and discovered a mix of copper (in the original house) and aluminum (in a recently finished basement). The bank required a full inspection of the aluminum. Fortunately, it was all in one room , on one new circuit, and a quick and (relatively)cheap professional inspection showed it was all done correctly. Unlike the previous owners choice of wallpaper. But that is another story...
3123) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (26) Server problems (Message 948707)
Posted 21 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've been working off line for awhile while travelling, and come to find this new thread. Everything seems to be working for me.

WHY ARE PANICING? WHY AM I SHOUTING?
3124) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's too cloudy for meteor hunting with my eyes tonight...... (Message 947867)
Posted 17 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Did anyone see anything?
I often see meteors or even space junk burning up when I am sat outside in the hot tub sky watching. I'd go as far as saying that I see something at least once a week - including some satellites reflecting the sun towards earth.


For those of us who live in the big city, satellite watching is often the easiest backyard naked eye astronomy. I have found a great site that lets you predict when and where things will be visible from your backyard, and have had a lot of fun with it.
3125) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 947865)
Posted 17 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Certainly a plausible explanation. No doubt about it, raccoons learn easily when food is involved!


Don't we all? The easiest way to get our little family back together is to let them all know what Mom is making for dinner on sunday night.
3126) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What browser do you use? (Message 947609)
Posted 16 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
IE8, plus Netscape 7.2 for some old cached web pages with lots of data. Also still using Netscape Composer to make web pages.

Wife and son are big fans of Firefox, but I don't see the point. Some pages don't work in Firefox, and I seem to be getting enough protection for a combination of IE8 patches and Norten. (Hopefully those don't become Famous Last Words.)
3127) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 947608)
Posted 16 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I hate it when you get a line up like this because the racoon in front doesn't have the correct change.
3128) Message boards : Technical News : Testing the Plumbing (Nov 12 2009) (Message 947291)
Posted 14 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well ya see, we all talk like that, eh?
3129) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Humanitarians welcome... (Message 947177)
Posted 14 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, if vegetarians eat vegetables, what do humanitarians eat?
3130) Message boards : Technical News : Testing the Plumbing (Nov 12 2009) (Message 947176)
Posted 14 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It reminds me of a quote from one of my first bosses in the testing business - "if you don't break something once in awhile you are not trying hard enough".

You used to work for Red Green?


Now that you mention it, he did look a little like Mr. Green. And I looked a little like Harold at the time.

Red Green actually just recycled a lot of old Canadian sayings, I think all his standards were in use long before the show started. I can only think of one that was truly original, "You're only young once, but you can always be immature".
3131) Message boards : Technical News : Testing the Plumbing (Nov 12 2009) (Message 947172)
Posted 14 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Zour, I think this has been covered before on the Number Crunching forum and here. There is no new data for a few months, but Matt and friends have implemented new radar blanking software, that permits the crunching of old data that either wasn't sent out before or bombed immediately when sent out, because of the radar interference in the data. The radar blanking software pre-processes the data, so us normal people can crunch it in a useful way.

Last I heard, fresh data should start around the end of November.
3132) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BEET's Give us a CAPTION XV (Message 947068)
Posted 14 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not an offical entry, but I have to say I think I know that guy. He looks just like one of the lawyers working for a client of mine. This picture explains so much...
3133) Message boards : Technical News : Testing the Plumbing (Nov 12 2009) (Message 947066)
Posted 14 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think Ned and John have made some good points.

As I understand it, there are 2 goals here: finding ET, and pushing the limits of distributed computing. Us out here in the peanut gallery expect a good data flow, but that is really only a by-product of the 2 main goals.

The analogy of the annual plant shut down is a good one only if your only goal is to maintain a high average production. A better analogy here might be found in developmental hardware testing: push it, break it, fix it, push harder till it breaks again, repeat as long as the money lasts.

It reminds me of a quote from one of my first bosses in the testing business - "if you don't break something once in awhile you are not trying hard enough".

Having said all that, many thanks to Matt and crew for all they do.
3134) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Are You a Space Nerd? (Message 945681)
Posted 7 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
3135) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 944921)
Posted 4 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Tonight he just watched me as I opened a window and sang a little skunk song to him.


Okay, nobody else asked, so I guess I have to.

What is a skunk song? Can you provide a link to a sample somewhere?
3136) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Extraterrestrial Microbes to Blame for Flu? (Message 944918)
Posted 4 Nov 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

The lethal wave of influenza in 1918-19... was first detected on the same day in Boston and Bombay. Yet in spreading within the United States it took three weeks to go from Boston to New York.


The key word above is "detected". Not "appeared". Did people start looking at about the same time?


If I remember my university biology from oh, so many years ago, viruses are particularly attuned to living as parasites in their hosts, the result of eons of parallel evolution. If you believe in all that evolution stuff. So two questions come up:

1. How does a virus ready to live inside an earth creature evolve off the earth?

2. How does said virus survive in space without an earth creature host long enough to get here from someplace else?


I read the link to the panspermia site, which proves the nutbars are taking this seriously. Does anybody have a link to real scientists taking it seriously?
3137) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Are you a nerd? (Message 944233)
Posted 31 Oct 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I don't need no stinkin' test. I make my living as a techno-geek, and spend all my spare time as a nerd. Always have, always will. Nuff said.

Can't find a link to it, since it was probably pre-Internet, but a Canadian trade magazine in the mid 1980s had a superb article on what happened to jocks and nerds. Just go to any hi-tech trade show today, and you can see what happened.

Harken back to high school in the late 1960s - the jocks were good looking, with nice smiles, a little dumb maybe, but top of the ladder. The nerds hid in the shadows, trading jokes based on the periodical table, quoting Heinlein and Tolkien to each other.

Fast forward to a modern high tech trade show. The jocks now are all salespeople, sucking up to the high-tech shakers and movers, using their nice smiles and good looks. And who are they sucking up to, these VPs of Technology, Directors of R&D, senior researchers, staff scientists, etc? Grown up nerds, with real jobs. Revenge is sweet.
3138) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AVATAR PICTURES! (Message 942665)
Posted 24 Oct 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I use avatars of old airplanes on a range of forums, because that stuff interests me. In a sense, it represents me. (Old, a bit broken down, but I can still soar. Sometimes.)

If you insist on a narrow description of reality, I can refer you to one of my web pages.
3139) Message boards : Technical News : Crashola (Oct 22 2009) (Message 942662)
Posted 24 Oct 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Reminds me of a learned co-worker years ago, who when faced with a large and difficult task, would solemnly say "this will take a while, somebody go get me a few candles and a six pack of chicken blood".
3140) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 937408)
Posted 2 Oct 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, this isn't backyard wildlife, but it does have an animal theme.

We have a running battle with our senior citizen spaniel, and his pills. He finds a new way to dispose of them, then we find a new way to make him eat them, and so on. Lately we have been hiding them in his food, and it was working. A few nights ago I checked his empty bowl in the evening. No pills there, and no pills in all his usual hiding places. I thought I had him tricked (for now), and then I found this waiting for me at the top of the stairs.



3141) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 936748)
Posted 29 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
hey, I'm not sure if this game works the way it should...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riUM2Xzdd88


LOL. Well nobody's going to claim that wasn't vaguely on topic!

Two questions arise (answers later if nobody gets them):

Why are manhole covers round?

How can you recognise an intellectual?


Not all manhole covers are round. This is a question often used in interviews, where the asker is more interested in how you handle wierd questions than in the correct answer. (See also "What colour is your parachute?")

There are many ways to recognize an intellectual, but a Nobel Prize is always nice.
3142) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 935612)
Posted 24 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hopefully when ET decides to invade, they will do it on a good day and kill only half of the World's population and eat the rest. They eat live you know. I imagine they will do taste tests first. I don't know what countries will be the live eats. If I find a link(wink) I'll let you know.


With Google you can find EVERYTHING.

http://bugbear.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/alien-touchdown-at-the-human-buffet/
3143) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 935497)
Posted 24 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think I'm actually starting to follow Chicken Stacker's logic, a little. Maybe it's time to stop drinking.
3144) Message boards : Technical News : Take That, FAA Radar! (Sep 23 2009) (Message 935495)
Posted 24 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yahoo Matt! I have my fingers crossed. Tweak on!
3145) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 935441)
Posted 23 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It was about finding ET in The Grand Old Days, although The Great Minds knew it was fruitless(for the intended, stated objective) and wished it take on a life of its own(which it has) and provide a certain many with extra income and a purpose driving them towards such. The old adage, laughing all the way to the bank, is appropriate.


Do you seriously think the SETI@Home staff are in this for the money? I assume you never worked for a university.
3146) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's worse than that! He's dead, Jim. (Message 935234)
Posted 22 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hate to reveal my age, but I started out with pencil on vellum for rough work, and ink on linen for production drawings. CAD came much later.

I'm quite familiar with Rockwell-Collins, installed a lot of their little boxes in various helicopters and seized-wing stuff.

Those were all full time post-degree jobs. Working my way through university involved tutoring, and fixing news vending machines for the LA "adult weekly" industry. The trade shows were a hoot.
3147) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's worse than that! He's dead, Jim. (Message 935159)
Posted 22 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I read "miltray" and I started thinking that'd be a tray designed to military standards ...


Of course you refer to the MIL-T-1234/6 Type 4 Category 6 Class 3 "Tray - Bevvies, for the serving of". I still have the QPL somewhere ...

I see we shared a common job in our early days Ned. I did "Castings - structural, tanks, for the holding together of". How about you?

BTW, the sun is always over the yardarm somewhere in the British Empire. Gentlemen - to the Queen!
3148) Message boards : Cafe SETI : NFL Predictions (Message 934908)
Posted 21 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Never mind the NFL - the NHL is about to start!
3149) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's worse than that! He's dead, Jim. (Message 934906)
Posted 21 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nobody move. I've dropped me brain.

- Captain Jack Sparrow
3150) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 934784)
Posted 20 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I would never post to a thread just to get it back on top. I would only post if I had something meaningful to say.
3151) Message boards : Cafe SETI : D9 (Message 934167)
Posted 18 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

The film said the gangsters were "Nigerians." Something else I found to be quite heavy-handed.


Oh yeah. Right now I'm corresponding with several Nigerians who are very close to sending me millions of dollars. They seem like real nice folk.
3152) Message boards : Cafe SETI : D9 (Message 934131)
Posted 17 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why weren't there any white gangsters ...?



Up here those are called "the government".
3153) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 934024)
Posted 17 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I thought St. Brendan "the Navigator", an Irish monk, was the first person to discover the Americas in 512-530 AD.


The people already on the beach when St. Brendan sailed in were "persons" too.
3154) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 933878)
Posted 16 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK. But America was known to Europe only after the voyages of Colombo. Giovanni da Verrazzano and John Cabot (Giovanni Caboto). This is history.
Tullio


This is going way off topic, but I guess that is what Cafe SETI is all about.

Chris and Johnny first found out about it from the Basque fishermen who had quietly been coming here for years. The Basque found out about it from the Norse, or maybe the Irish, or maybe both. I'm told that is history today, but it sure wasn't history back when I was in school.

And in a desperate attempt to get back on topic...

I predict that whoever first formally announces finding ET will be be met with a chorus of "yeah, but ..." from everybody from the tinfoil hat groups to the Pentagon to various churches. Just an observation.
3155) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption XIV (Message 933523)
Posted 15 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, I think it is virtually a three way tie for first. Flipping a series of coins produces:

Second runner up:
Virtual Boss: Honey! Are you sure your parents left before the storm. That big mound is right where their campervan was parked!

First runner up:
Balveda: Nothing stops my annual garage sale, nothing!

AND THE WINNER
Mumps:
For Sale:
Single family home.
Rental property, zoned Eskimo, included on front-lot.
Must sell before spring.
3156) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 933427)
Posted 15 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought,
but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
- Albert Einstein


Not really. If the result of WWIII is that we revert to fighting with sticks and stones, then the next WW will be fought centuries later after we are able to create something like the weapons of the first WW. Any battles in the mean time will be very local. People across the globe will not even know about it.



I think part of the intent of the quote is to point out that after WWIII, "the world" might consist of a couple of guys with sticks and stones.
3157) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 933266)
Posted 14 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In my experience, the hardest part of a good meringue pie is getting that even lightly browned look. How do you do it?
3158) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption XIV (Message 933265)
Posted 14 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here is one to remind us all that summer is almost over. I'm heading out on a road trip in a few minutes,so it might Tuesday before I can adjudicate your missives.
3159) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption XIV (Message 933186)
Posted 14 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks very much John. I'll look for a suitable picture, hope to have something up tomorrow.
3160) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Maybe you will know what is this (Message 933123)
Posted 13 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If anybody is familiar with instruments like the Storm Scope or the Insight clone of it, that are intended to catch lightning RF effects, you know that the RF effects of lightning on electrical equipment are limited in range by the sensitivity of the equipment. So a few minutes between pulses could be the effect of relatively local lightning.

Also, could this be a beat frequency, between two not-quite-aligned oscillators somewhere in the circuitry?
3161) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 933121)
Posted 13 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think the bias in these Forums to discussions of technical issues results from the fact that everybody just asks those kinds of questions here. You have to dig a little to find the science content, but it is there.

Also, the typical time scales of technical issues and finding ET are quite different. If we found an ET every Tuesday, there would probably be as many posts about that are there are about the Weekly Outrage.

To very roughly quantify that, the Weekly Outrage occurs, well, weekly. An interval between Outrages of 7 days. Finding ET occurs at some interval greater than X, where X is the number of days we have been seriously looking. Say about 40 years, or X > 15,000+ days. So, I would expect the percentage of posts about finding ET here to be something less than 7 / 15,000 = 0.047%. I know that is a vast simplification, and would welcome a refinement of the calculation.

Final observation, from an old timer. These darned kids today expect something to happen right away, just because they clicked the mouse once or twice. Some things take longer than that.
3162) Message boards : Number crunching : I need some help with... (Message 933083)
Posted 13 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm not sure I fully understand the question, but here is a technique used way back in the last century doing vehicle simulator visuals. Sketches would help, but I don't have access to a prooper CAD package any more (and I like it that way). I think the problem is geometry, not calculus.

1. Apply the texture to each polygon in the plane of the polygon. This includes any shading and illiumination effects, in the true location of the polygon.

2. Draw vectors from features on the texture (like boundaries of a single colour area within the polygon) back to the point of view.

3. Your "viewing screen" is a plane just in front of the POV, between the POV and the object. Where each vector penetrates the viewing screen is where the originating feature of the vector will appear in the 2D image on the viewing screen.
3163) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car Racing 2009 (Message 933052)
Posted 13 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
1 Barrichello
2 Button
3 Raikkonen
4 Sutil
Hamilton out at last lap while third


Hamilton out while stupid.


North American TV didn't show the whole Hamilton crash. Why did the back wheel come off, when he hit the wall with the front? Did something break before he spun?
3164) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 932939)
Posted 13 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good thread. I think the aleins invented the Vlar auto killer.


Hahaha!

That would be the evil aliens. The good aliens (Grays I think) invented the reschedule app.


Good point! A good ET would actually be speeding up SETI@Home, so we could join their "club". Maybe they would be volunteer testers. Or moderators ....
3165) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 932874)
Posted 12 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But what about the aliens amongst us? No, I don't mean my last boss, or even the one before that. What if ET is here, hiding amongst us, in an observing capacity.

What if the idea of us finding ET made him/her/it nervous? What could they do, in a low key non-obvious way, to screw up the search for ET? Would they promote the use of GPUs, to tie up the servers with masses of traffic? Would they run a bunch of machines with ancient versions of BOINC?

Any ideas on how they would quietly kill, or at least cripple, this project?

And if the moderators remove this post, does that mean THEY are the aliens?
3166) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (24) Server problems (Message 932869)
Posted 12 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
... it is just a matter of sitting and waiting again for them to go up


Exactly. I had a bunch of uploads pending this AM (EDT), so I actually moved away from the computer, went down to the airport for a while, and watched airplanes fly around. (I'm easily amused).

When I came back, my uploads had gone, I had some new downloads, and I actually have some colour in my face (other than my usual "oops, that was me" red).

Oh, in order to tie this into the thread topic ... what, me panic?
3167) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it about finding ET anymore? (Message 932752)
Posted 12 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

These things might seem far afield from the purpose of this project, but they are valid concerns for those of us who really want the science to mean something.


Well said. Sometimes it is easy to forget that all those people grumbling about this or that little bug are still crunching like crazy while they grumble.
3168) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption XIV (Message 932751)
Posted 12 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:






Well, the good news is that we have another bridge repair job to bid on.
3169) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car Racing 2009 (Message 932749)
Posted 12 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Monza qualifying:
1 Hamilton McLaren
2 Sutil Force India
3 Raikkonen Ferrari
4 Kovalainen McLaren


And Fisi behind both Force Indias!

Still, considering the small number of laps he has actually done in the Ferrari, it's amazing he is where he is. He can only get better.
3170) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption XIII (Message 932360)
Posted 11 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My Daughter the Civil Engineer offered this after seeing the picture:

One union guy, one city inspector, and one engineer (the well dressed one).
3171) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption XIII (Message 932247)
Posted 10 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


The new fee per bag has greatly reduced the baggage carried on the international routes of the Greater Gambian Bus Company.
3172) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption XIII (Message 932204)
Posted 10 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another sign (pun intended) that tree-huggers have infiltrated the city roads department.
3173) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's worse than that! He's dead, Jim. (Message 931999)
Posted 9 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And I just remembered this one, from an engineering conference about 10 years ago. I listened to a department head's proposal, thought about it, and turned to him and with a dead straight face said "Make it so Number One." With an equally dead straight face, he turned to his assistant and said "Make it so Number Two".
3174) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's worse than that! He's dead, Jim. (Message 931997)
Posted 9 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
"They were just sucked into space" -- Riker
"Blown, sir" -- Data
"Sorry, Data" -- Riker
"Common mistake, sir" -- Data
3175) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Infinate Endless Empty Space (Message 931464)
Posted 6 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
According to Einstein, space is endless but not infinite. My brain hurts every time I try to think about that.

Imagine being on the surface of a sphere.
Tullio


I know that analogy, but then what is inside the sphere?

Quoting Einstein again, there is nothing inside, not even empty space. Again, my brain hurts.
3176) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Infinate Endless Empty Space (Message 931440)
Posted 6 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
According to Einstein, space is endless but not infinite. My brain hurts every time I try to think about that.
3177) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Labor Day (Message 931438)
Posted 6 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
.. and special greetings to all the laborers held in economic chains by the filthy Capitalist pigs (like me).

I meant I'm a laborer of course, not a filthy Capitalist pig. Well, OK I own a few shares in mutual funds, but it's not like I'm a Captain of Industry. Well, OK, I run my own business, but ...

What would Carl Marx make of the early 21st century? A lot of us workers now own a big chunk of the means of production, and we are still getting screwed.
3178) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bumper Stickers (Message 931183)
Posted 5 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
"I souport publik edekasion"

Last week I couldn't spell injuneer, and now I are one.


Huked on foniks wurked fer me.
3179) Message boards : Number crunching : Heads up on latest Microsoft Visa64 patch (Message 930843)
Posted 4 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I installed Window update KB972036 on 2 September without issues.

I'm about to install KB948465 which arrived overnight, with fingers crossed.
3180) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car Racing 2009 (Message 930826)
Posted 4 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Traffic jams around Monza can be awful. This year, with an Italian driver on a Ferrari, they probably will be worse than ever. Also, the racetrack lies within the Park of the Royal Villa, and after the race it looks like a trash dump. So I prefer not to increase its entropy and see the race from my living room, near my fridge. I might even uncork a bottle of Schioppettino if Fisi wins and a bottle of German beer if Kimi wins. Cheers.
Tullio


The Finns do make some good beers, although the best try to have German sounding names. And there is always Finnish white potato wine.
3181) Message boards : Technical News : Whac-a-Mole (Sep 03 2009) (Message 930654)
Posted 3 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks for the update and the link Matt. 15 years and all you got was a pen!?!?!?!?
3182) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 930646)
Posted 3 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Regarding the free-range bunny, well I do have an excellent recipe that involves a mustard sauce! I suppose this gives new meaning to our thread title "Critter Cafe"!


I had a very similar thought when I first read this. The bunnie huggers at U Vic would not approve.
3183) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption XIII (Message 930604)
Posted 3 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Priorities. It's all about priorities.
3184) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 930385)
Posted 2 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Anybody want a free bunny?
3185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's worse than that! He's dead, Jim. (Message 930339)
Posted 2 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've tried using this a few times going through Customs, but those guys just have no sense of yuk-yuk:

These are not the droids you're looking for. They can go about their business.
3186) Message boards : Politics : The best economic stimulus; Cuba (Message 930338)
Posted 2 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Rum, cigars Cuban in name only


Sounds like sour grapes to me. If your government won't let you find out what the real stuff is like, come on up to Canada and buy the real thing.
3187) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bumper Stickers (Message 930157)
Posted 1 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Suburbia: where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them.

You are lucky if it is only the trees. "Lake forest" subdivision. The trees were all cut down, and the lake was filled in so more houses could go in. "Forest knoll" subdivision. The knoll was moved into the lake above...


Here in London we got "The Woods on Hyde Park", where first they cut down all the trees ...
3188) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's worse than that! He's dead, Jim. (Message 930156)
Posted 1 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Great ceasar's ghost. {bet ya don't remember that one]


The Adventures of Superman. Watched that as a kid.Shows you how old I am:)


I remember Perry White saying that back in the comics.
3189) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's worse than that! He's dead, Jim. (Message 930070)
Posted 1 Sep 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Interesting to see that some of you are pondering what I'm pondering...
3190) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's worse than that! He's dead, Jim. (Message 929985)
Posted 31 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My favorite Ghostbusters quote, from Bill Murray. I use this one quite often in day to day work.

I don't have to take this abuse from you, I've got hundreds of people dying to abuse me.

3191) Message boards : Politics : Lee Iacocca's new book.... (Message 929946)
Posted 31 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I see many questions, but I see no solutions. What is Iacocca bringing to the table to make him worthy of considering him presidencial material?


[dry Canadian humour]
Well, he was the driving force behind the Pinto before Ford fired him. And there is his excellent track record at turning around Chrysler and getting it to stand by itself.
[/dry Canadian humour]
3192) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's worse than that! He's dead, Jim. (Message 929921)
Posted 31 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Scotty is a hero and roll model to many engineers my age. I can't count the number of times a serious engineering discussion has been broken up by somebody using a bad Scottish accent to say "I can't do it Cap'n, the engines won't take it!"

And no, it wasn't always me. Only sometimes.
3193) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car Racing 2009 (Message 929818)
Posted 30 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Spa: 1 Raikkonen, 2 Fisichella on Force India, 3 Vettel. A TV station says that Alonso will drive a Ferrari at Monza, but Briatore denies this. I believe this to be true: a new Ferrari sponsor is Banco Santander.
Tullio



Force India at the podium ?????


Yeah, amazing race. At one point Force India was running second and second last. This year's point leader and last year's champion both crashed out before finishing one lap.

I've been hearing rumours for a few days about Fisi driving for Ferrari, maybe before this season is over. That would tend to motivate an Italian ;).

But seriously, all the rules tinkering has really tightened up the field. There was less than one second difference in qualifying times from 1st to 10th, on one of the longest tracks of the season.

3194) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are You listening to or watching? (Message 929369)
Posted 29 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A link?

Why are you folks not linking to 'what you are listening to'?
Unless you are like me and have an extensive collection of those 'big black thingys that spin around like tops....'


No link, because

1. It was a commercial Internet radio site, and I didn't want to upset the moderators, and

2. It was a commerical Internet radio site, and would probably be playing something else by the time you got there.

I thinned out my big black thingy collection quite a few years ago, and I'm down to my last 300 or so now. Still spin the platters once in awhile, but it seems like so much work.
3195) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are You listening to or watching? (Message 929361)
Posted 28 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Brazil, with the one and only Ethyl Smith on the mighty Hammond B3. I'm definitely dancing now!
3196) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are You listening to or watching? (Message 929276)
Posted 28 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I Like It Mambo, by Tino, on SomaFM.

I may start dancing any moment now.
3197) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are You listening to or watching? (Message 929271)
Posted 28 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

It only sounds right, if Dylan sings it.....I think it was from the album (big black CD thing) called Planet Waves. Yes, I do have the album, but its 200 miles away!


Yes it is on Planet Waves. I still have my big black CD thing copy too, bought in California right after it came out.
3198) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are You listening to or watching? (Message 929111)
Posted 27 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Canadian alternative/pop/roots/whatever music on the Drive show, on CBC radio on-line.
3199) Message boards : Politics : The State of the Economy (Message 928877)
Posted 26 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Don't have a quick link to post, but several commentators in Canada have recently noted that the home owner real estate market has clearly bottomed and is rebounding, but commercial real estate continues to drop monthly. Possibly a sign of the reluctance of banks to loan to businesses, while home prices had reached an unrealistic low, and the banks are now ready to once again take on the risk of having to repossess your house. At least, here in Canada.
3200) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are You listening to or watching? (Message 928772)
Posted 26 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Styx - Come Sail Away


I can't listen to that anymore without laughing, since Cartman covered it.
3201) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Wikipedia to limit editing of articles (Message 928770)
Posted 26 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Coincidently, The Onion just posted a story that Wikipedia is planning a big celebration next month for the 750th anniversary of American independence.
3202) Message boards : Politics : The State of the Economy (Message 928768)
Posted 26 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another, indirect,indication that the economy is at least bottoming, if not even heading back up.

BMO results buoy TSX

For those of you not following the Canadian econmy too closly, BMO is the Bank of Montreal, one of the biggest banks here, and TSX is the Toronto Stock Exchange, the biggest exchange in Canada and home to most of our blue chips. The three biggest single things that drive the TSX numbers are Canadian bank results, the world price of oil, and the state of the US economy (our biggest single customer).

The decrease in BMO's loan loss provisions is probably as much from tightening new loans as it is from any improvement in the economy. As a result the private indivdual or small business trying to get a loan will not see much of an immediate change, but at least our big banks seem to have made it through the worst of the current $hit$torm, without government bailouts.
3203) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you watching? (Message 928665)
Posted 26 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The sun setting over the Thames valley, out of my office window.

That's OUR Thames, not the original.
3204) Message boards : Politics : The State of the Economy (Message 928618)
Posted 25 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here is another economic indicator to add to the mix. Interesting that the story expressely states that retail sales "don't lead the recovery like the stock market, but are considered by economists to be an important economic indicator."


Like when you are trying to monitor consumer sentiment. If people are more upbeat about the economy, they usually spend more. Higher retail sales somtimes lead to stronger durable goods sales etc. And those lead to more factory orders, eventually.


.. but first you have to empty your shipping department, the warehouses, and the dealer's back yard. (Based on my many years working for machinery manufacturers.) The good news is that even a downward trend in this "pipeline" inventory can make it easier for the manufacturers to get bank loans for product development and capitol upgrades, even before the economic upturn results in new orders at the factory.
3205) Message boards : Politics : The State of the Economy (Message 928594)
Posted 25 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here is another economic indicator to add to the mix. Interesting that the story expressely states that retail sales "don't lead the recovery like the stock market, but are considered by economists to be an important economic indicator."
3206) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 928389)
Posted 24 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Garlic is so easily over-used.


In my opinion, "too much garlic" is one of those vague, poorly defined concepts, like "division by zero" or "too much beer".
3207) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are You listening to or watching? (Message 928259)
Posted 23 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Scarlotti for 2 Guitars, transcribed and performed by Lynne Gangbar. Played it the first time last week, and had to put it away because I couldn't believe how GOOD it was. Playing it now for the second time, and it is even better than I remember. The quality of the recording and the quality of the musicianship are amongst the best I've ever heard.

If you like Scarlotti and/or classic guitar, you have to hear this.
3208) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption XIII (Message 928183)
Posted 23 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Thank you for calling Al's Plumbing. All our operators are busy right now, but please stay on the line...
3209) Message boards : Politics : Government run single payer healthcare (Message 928044)
Posted 22 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
then we spend hundreds of thousands of dollars keeping a single really old guy alive on a machine for months because he did not sighn a peice of paper or his family wont let go. that dont happen in europe!! or CANADA.
it cost a fortune hear because we have it really GOOD and we are spoiled rotten.


Exactly that happens every day in Canada. And it can happen for anybody, not just the lucky few at the top of the food chain.
3210) (Message 927856)
Posted 21 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If we knew the distance to the unnamed star in the middle of this grouping, we could put a rough size on the minor and major axes of the ellipse plotted by John (assuming the ellipse is centred at that distance). That, plus the time between observations, could tell us something about a possible orbiting object.

Going in another direction, I wonder how accurate and repeatable the RA and DEC are for the group of observations. Could this just be multiple observations of the same (non-orbiting) spot in the sky?
3211) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are You listening to or watching? (Message 927752)
Posted 21 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Jazz on FM 91, CJRT.

Right now it is Oscar Peterson.
3212) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Show yourself! (image heavy) (Message 927606)
Posted 21 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Let's see, December, Canada, and no snow. Must be Vancouver.
3213) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 927579)
Posted 20 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Many years ago my wife had an office overlooking an inflated tennis bubble on Vancouver Island. When the bubble was wet from a recent rain or heavy dew, the ravens would land on top, then take turns sliding down the wet plastic standing up, with their wings outstretched. They could usually get to an almost vertical slope before flying away. Maybe I'm anthropomorphizing here, but it looked like a game of dare to me.
3214) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 927564)
Posted 20 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
rubbish in = rubbish out
(polite version of publishing aphorism)


Garbage in, gospel out.

Truly believed by several of my ex-bosses, and at least one professor. None of them were very good with computers.
3215) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are You listening to or watching? (Message 927563)
Posted 20 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Right now a CD I got from the local library: Classic Bluegrass from Smithsonian Folkways. Just finished the Johnson Mountain Boys, now on to the one and only Bill Monroe.
3216) Message boards : Politics : The State of the Economy (Message 927523)
Posted 20 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Canada has been going to part time jobs in a big way over the last few years, at all skill levels and pay levels. The employers love it because it is so much easier to hire and fire on short notice, and benefit costs are lower.

The employees put up with it because sometimes there is no choice. Of course, universal health care makes it a lot easier for the employee to swallow. Ironic that a "pinko" policy like universal health care can benefit the employer!

Also, some (but not all) Canadian welfare payments cut back on a sliding scale when you start to get extra income. It's known locally as "workfare". The theory is that your benefits won't go away entirely until your other income makes you better off, but there seems to be much discussion about whether or not this is true. Fortunately, I've never had to find out the hard way.
3217) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is the art of letter writing dead?? (Message 927477)
Posted 20 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
To me, the neck tie is a classic case of one invention not realizing its full potential until another invention comes along. For the tie, that other invention was the twist off beer bottle cap. No other reason to wear a tie.
3218) Message boards : Politics : The State of the Economy (Message 927471)
Posted 20 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Know how factory orders or durable goods sales are going? I think there is a lot of pent up demand that will break loose some time this year.


Those metrics don't mean as much in Canada,as our economy is still largely based on resource exploitation (oil, wood, minerals, etc.). A big chunk of this is exported, so we will pick up when the rest of you get around to buying all this stuff again.

To paraphrase the hot dog guy in the Simpsons, thank God for China. They're putting my kids through college!

Still, there are some points of light here and there. GM Canada is adding back some cancelled shifts at some Canadian plants over the next few months, but again this is just a sign that we are moving from really really bad to really bad.
3219) Message boards : Politics : The State of the Economy (Message 927440)
Posted 20 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A lot of the Canadian papers and TV commentators seem to have a hard time grasping that "recession" has a formal definition (two consecutive quarters of economic shrinkage), and the end of the recession only means that the terms of the definition are no longer strictly met. They apparently think the economy has only two possible states, "Recession" and "everything is just swell".

In fact, the recession is over here, but that just means the economy has moved from sucks extremely to simply sucks. Slightly less hard times are still here, and will be for awhile.

3220) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 927432)
Posted 20 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Girlfriends/boyfriends are like streetcars. There will be another one along in a few minutes.

First heard this one about 45 years ago, from my father to me and my sister. Used it a few times on my kids.
3221) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption XIII (Message 927301)
Posted 19 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Alright, that's ten, more or less.

Special honourable mention to Michael Roberts for "Normal for Kansas." I have no idea what that means or where it comes from, but it sounds cool when you say it out loud.

Third place to Superjoker for "Destro(Chrome Dome) from GI Joe testing His new head cover that He inherited." because I just saw that movie and loved it. It ain't art, but it is fun.

A close race between first and second, decided by flipping a virtual coin.

Second place to Angela for "Pilot study for the Super Glue commercial."

And the winner is....



Balveda with "Mr Metalhelmet finds Electromagnetic anomaly".

Over to you, Balveda.
3222) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (22) Server problems (Message 927136)
Posted 19 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I would suggest that you hook up these computers to SETI, plus at least one back up project. There would be lots of teaching opportunities just in selecting the backups, plus monitoring the ongoing work on the other projects. You could even consider rotating between projects, maybe to follow other learning activities underway in the school.

SETI needs more crunchers, when everything works well. The other projects are much the same. At any given moment there is somebody out there that could use extra CPUs.
3223) (Message 927116)
Posted 19 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
...but does this not risk you giving away the coordinates for other researchers to then steal the SETI 'prize' and results thunder?


I would think that a web page is about as public as public disclosure could get. If anything, this will make it harder for others to steal the thunder. Berkeley SETI will have a few million witnesses that they saw it first.

And can I just say that I'm the first person to post twice to this Forum?
3224) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption XIII (Message 927042)
Posted 19 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey, two wins in the same year! Give me some time to find a classy picture for you guys.

This is too easy.

3225) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 927031)
Posted 18 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I tried planting some jalepenos this year, but the rabbits won't leave the plants alone. I ended up with just a pair a scraggly plants with no leaves. :-(


If they are eating the peppers, it could make for some good tasting rabbit.

My wife has relatives who raise mint (amongst other things) commercially. They often will let one or two domestic geese graze in the mint for a week or two before Thanksgiving or Christmas, and then cook the pre-spiced bird. Tastes great.

Couldn't happen in the USA due to food safety laws. Salmonella mint leaves ... farm quarantined.




Actually, it is in the US. But I'm not saying where.

And as far as I know the pre-spiced birds are not sold. Just for home consumption.
3226) (Message 927030)
Posted 18 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can I just be the first to say that I've never posted to this forum before?
3227) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 926970)
Posted 18 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I tried planting some jalepenos this year, but the rabbits won't leave the plants alone. I ended up with just a pair a scraggly plants with no leaves. :-(


If they are eating the peppers, it could make for some good tasting rabbit.

My wife has relatives who raise mint (amongst other things) commercially. They often will let one or two domestic geese graze in the mint for a week or two before Thanksgiving or Christmas, and then cook the pre-spiced bird. Tastes great.
3228) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption XIII (Message 926792)
Posted 17 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:



As children growing up on the farm, Fred and Charlie were unaware of the cruel future that would soon test their friendship.
3229) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 926742)
Posted 17 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just remembered I also had this picture of local urban wildlife. Took this in April, in a park a few minutes walk from where I live. The way he is walking is sort of like ... kind of ... Now what is that called?

3230) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bumper Stickers (Message 926371)
Posted 15 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Don't know if this was just a Canadian thing, or more wide spread. Back in the 80s a kid's car seat manufacturer included signs for bumpers and rear windows that read "Caution - Baby On Board" that the proud parents could hang on the car. This spawned a whole series of tasteless ripoffs. My favorites were

Caution - Oversexed Single Millionaire On Board
Caution - Mother-in-law In Trunk

and pay back for that one

Caution - Ex Husband In Trunk
3231) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 926368)
Posted 15 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've had several dogs that love beer, wine, brandy and gin. They also appear to get hangovers, and then do it all over again. Just like humans.
3232) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bumper Stickers (Message 926154)
Posted 15 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
An airplane mechanic (AME in Canada) who lives around the corner from me has one that says

"AMEs are just plane nuts"

Plus some from the dimly remembered 70s:

I brake for hallucinations

I brake for unicorns

I brake for UFOs

etc.
3233) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 926151)
Posted 15 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can you see the bunny, brothers and sisters? Can you see it?

Hallelujah!
3234) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 926147)
Posted 15 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Unfortunately, "all that" is not always done correctly, and there are always a few idiots around. As a result, there are regularly parachutes that are very much NOT good to their last drop.


Fatalities come from many causes, mostly on landing.


Like a previous post said, its not the fall. Its the sudden stop at the end.
3235) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 926057)
Posted 14 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thaks Ozzfan and Kai. I was going mildly crazy trying to figure out what I did wrong. Maybe it was the size.
3236) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update II - The Critter Cafe is Open (Message 926049)
Posted 14 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, another raccoon thread, and the only raccoon so far is Angela's avatar.

As someone requested, here is my backyard wildlife again. He should be big enough for the pot in a month or two.

3237) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 925995)
Posted 14 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If a job's worth doing, it's worth doing well. If it's not worth doing, give it to Rimmer.

Who is Rimmer?


I think it was a quote from the UK TV show Red Dwarf.
3238) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 925978)
Posted 14 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Say Bill, is this you airplane?


No, the picture was taken in about 1959, it is a plane from my father's unit at the time.
3239) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update (Message 925923)
Posted 14 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Which reminds me of the recipe for classic Welsh rabbit stew.

First, you steal a rabbit...
3240) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 925908)
Posted 14 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
When I uploaded the bunny picture I uploaded some pictures of supper from last Tuesday. Found the recipe online for noodle salad with chicken.

Here are the veggies, and the noodles cooking away.



You can use any cooked chicken, left over, or whatever. I BBQ'ed breasts, smothered in Schezwan basting sauce



If you just use regular chili sauce, instead of the sweet Thai style sauce, you probably want to cut back on the vinegar and lemon juice a little. Unless you like it a little tart.



The final creation. I used too many noodles, I'll cut back a bit next time. This was a double recipe, good for supper for 3 plus lunches to take to work the next day.

3241) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update (Message 925906)
Posted 14 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have had no luck getting pictures of the racoons that pass through our back yard from time to time, so I got one of our resident bunnies instead. There is a whole family under the pool shed, they had at least 2 babies this spring. This is one of the adults. The yung'uns have shorter, rounder ears the first year.

3242) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 925896)
Posted 13 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The test engineer's guiding principal:

When the going gets tough, the tough get empirical.
3243) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Show yourself! (image heavy) (Message 925811)
Posted 13 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here is a picture of me leaving the office a few years back. Really caught my best side.

3244) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 925738)
Posted 13 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Early to bed and late to rise makes your girl go out with other guys.
3245) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 925551)
Posted 12 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As plain as the nose on your face.
3246) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 925540)
Posted 12 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

OK, ok, I admit that I am a software engineer, and as such, I always need to think about the "boundary conditions".


Ok, Ok, I admit that I am an aerospace engineer. What you are talking about is not a characteristic of the parachute in and of itself, but rather of the whole system involved in producing, maintaining and operating said parachute.

When all that is done right, the parchute will be good to the last drop. At drop Last + 1 the parachute is not functional and/or trustworthy any longer, and only an idiot would use it.

Unfortunately, "all that" is not always done correctly, and there are always a few idiots around. As a result, there are regularly parachutes that are very much NOT good to their last drop.

The "Maxwell House" joke is an old one in the aerospace community. What it really means it that I make sure that me, my equipment, and everybody involved with my equipment is working up to standard, so my next drop (or whatever) will be a good one.
3247) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 925455)
Posted 12 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


How to start another war...

ok

it's a man's world but the women run it

;-)


I'd just like to point out that JLH does ??? speak on behalf of all Canadians, or necessarily represent a true Canadian point of view.

My wife told me to say that.

ROFL. Didn't you omit a quite critical word there?

F.


Freudian slip. don't tell my wife!
3248) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 925417)
Posted 11 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


How to start another war...

ok

it's a man's world but the women run it

;-)


I'd just like to point out that JLH does speak on behalf of all Canadians, or necessarily represent a true Canadian point of view.

My wife told me to say that.
3249) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 925389)
Posted 11 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Oh, oh! Can I volunteer to be the first ignoramus to be edumacated? :)


Of course, grasshopper. Try to snatch this pebble from my hand....
3250) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 925358)
Posted 11 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just because nobody complains doesn`t mean all parachutes are perfect.
Benny Hill

Who in his right mind would step out of a perfectly working airplane in mid flight?

It's not the fall that kills you. It's the sudden stop at the end.


I always used Maxwell House parachutes. They're good to the last drop.
3251) Message boards : Number crunching : A new record (Message 925357)
Posted 11 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've been getting shorties 2 or 3 at a time, several tmes a day, for the last few days. I'm almost afraid to say this, but this is the most regularity I've seen in SETI downloads in quite some time. I'm actually going into the weekly outrage well stocked.
3252) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 925355)
Posted 11 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For a thread titled "How to start another war..." we don't seem to be accomplishing much. :-)


Looks to me like most of the people with an interest in SETI are smart enough to realize that points of view can be valid and/or interesting, even if you don't agree with them.

Which doesn't seem entirely consistent with another recent thread. :-)


I wonder what thread that would be? ;)


Note that I did say "most". Maybe we have in-house candidates for "re-education"?

SETI - making the world a better place, one ignoramus at a time.
3253) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 925354)
Posted 11 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ooooooooohhhhhhhh I SEE!!! Boys are "special"! That's it!!! I get it now... very, very special.

... and handy to have around if a Raccoon needs to be chased up a tree.


My daughter just got her P. Eng., travels the world on business, and will spend all day up to her knees in mud yelling at construction workers, but says she needs to get married so she will have somebody around to kill spiders.
3254) Message boards : Politics : Government run single payer healthcare (Message 925198)
Posted 10 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Lucky for those Californians that have the state pay for their medicare premiums. Still a premium, it's just that the state covers it for you.

Doing some reading, I see that you still pay the premium yourself if you do not have any medical expenses for the month.

"If you have no medical expenses in a month, then you cannot meet the SOC and your Part B premium will be deducted from your Social Security check."

http://www.dhcs.ca.gov/Documents/Medicare%20Part%20B%20Notification.pdf


So everybody pays, even if they don't use the service. Sounds like socialism to me.

But seriously, everybody pays premiums or taxes or loses income or quality of life some other way because of the cost to society of premature deaths, long term disabilities, days off sick, orphaned children, etc. Why not just admit it, collect funds from everybody according to their ability to pay, and distribute the cash where needed for the good of everybody?

Oh wait, that's socialism too.
3255) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 925194)
Posted 10 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For a thread titled "How to start another war..." we don't seem to be accomplishing much. :-)


Looks to me like most of the people with an interest in SETI are smart enough to realize that points of view can be valid and/or interesting, even if you don't agree with them.

So, what's wrong with the rest of the world? How do we get them into this state of peaceful tolerance and coexistance? There's a war for you.
3256) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 925120)
Posted 10 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But a device that tells me where to go would have seemed redundant, as I was already getting married.


Bada Boom!
3257) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 925073)
Posted 10 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hand held GPS is only as good as the underlying map data, and some of that dates back a long time. I remeber the first time I used a portable GPS was in about 1989, standing on the shore of Lake Erie while the GPS showed us out in the middle of the lake. I'm sure I would have noticed if we were.

If one inputs garbage, one can expect garbage in the output (or something like that).
3258) Message boards : Politics : Government run single payer healthcare (Message 925025)
Posted 9 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Please enlighten this ignorant one as to WHY - Obama is off to MEXICO to discuss American Healthcare?
Do we now need the approval of the Mexican Government to implement health care since we also have to include illegal Mexican Citizens in the plan?


The papers here say the Three Amigos are meeting to discuss NAFTA and future trade agreements. That would explain why all 3 North American countries are involved.

By the way Canadian health care generally excludes illegal residents. We are in the process of tightening up ID requirements here in Ontario, because of the large number of people slipping over here from Michigan and New York for free health care.
3259) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 925024)
Posted 9 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And it is still just a tiny little electronic map you have to read. It can sort of tell you where you are, but you still have to figure out what to do next.
3260) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 924992)
Posted 9 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In my experience anybody can be taught to read a map, but they have to want to be taught (as with most things). I told my wife she had to learn, because I will NEVER stop and ask for directions. Ever. So far it is working, but we have only been at it for 36 years.

(Side note sort of related to previous topics: a lot of women seem to have a hard time taking any instructions from men. I think this is because they feel they are being considered stupid when a man offers to help them. In fact, the man considers them ignorant - in the classical sense of the term - not stupid when they offer to help. The problem is probably compounded by typical male lack of sensitivity. I welcome corrections or other insights on this puzzling topic.)

I've also noted that people seem to fall into 2 categories. Those with good spatial imaging abilities (the ability to picture objects and their relationships in 3D, and from various angles) take quickly to map reading, 3D CAD design, wire harness and pipe routing, and navigation in general. The others (maybe 75% of the population in my experience) struggle with these concepts, but they can be taught.

A prime example is night sky star maps, usually printed mirror image from regular maps (north at the top, but west on the right and east on the left). When you first explain to people that this is because you want to picture the night sky viewed from below, whereas maps show the earth's surface viewed from above, about 25% of people say "oh, of course" while everybody else says "whaaat?".
3261) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 924950)
Posted 9 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Well Angela Schnitzel without sauce is a no go in germany.
Of course self made.

I will come up with a sauce recipe if you want to try.


Yes please. I would like to see some real German schnitzel sauces. do you strain yours?
3262) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 924947)
Posted 9 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

And up is down and out is in and back is forth and push is pull and here is there and this is that....


In context, yes, sometimes. You need to pay attention and pick up on the subtle non-verbal things. Otherwise, we will never get that mammoth.

Ooooooooohhhhhhhh I SEE!!! Boys are "special"! That's it!!! I get it now... very, very special.


Not special, just different. Very, very different.
3263) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 924904)
Posted 9 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ned clearly meant the other right. Guys can pick up on those little non-verbal communications in order to get the full intent of the message.
3264) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 924901)
Posted 9 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OzFan, that brings back memories of my mother's cooking. She was a cook in the Army for 4 years, and rose to Sergeant in charge of baking. She always claimed she could make 100 apple pies from memory, but had to stop and really think if she was only making 3 or 4.

Angela, the serious German cook strains their sauce through a fine cheese cloth before putting it back on the pork chop. This gives a very even consistency. I prefer to leave in some lumps, they're kind of like little surprises you come across from time to time.

Eric, you should really share the last of the wine with the rest of the kitchen staff.
3265) Message boards : Politics : Government run single payer healthcare (Message 924817)
Posted 9 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But what you propose is massive system change. Adjusting amounts, making it available to everyone... heh that's the crux of the issue with Medicare!


I think they are just tweaks. The real crux is how much you want to pay.

Canadian health care doesn't pay for everything, and doesn't always pay 100% of what it does cover. It covers more than Medicare, because Canadian voters are willing to pay more. It covers almost everybody because that's how we all got through the last few hundred winters: helping those that need it, and sharing.

You need to get past the labels, and look at the details and the cost. It is too easy to just say

Socialism = Communism = The Work Of The Devil

and then stop thinking about it in a critical fashion.
3266) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bumper Stickers (Message 924816)
Posted 9 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It all depends on context.

Seen on a Rolls in downtown TO: My other car is a Rolls.

License plate on a divorce lawyer's Porsche, also in TO: Was His
3267) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 924815)
Posted 9 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
recipe who needs a recipe. Kill it, salt it, and throw it on the fire. That pretty much sum it up for me.


Meat. Fire. Good.
3268) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Cook's Corner (Message 924766)
Posted 8 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Anyone have a good recipe for Yaeger Schnitzel? I tried it a restaurant recently, and it was very tasty.


Do you mean Jeager Schnitzel?

That one is very traditional, this one is a bit more modern.
3269) Message boards : Politics : Government run single payer healthcare (Message 924732)
Posted 8 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If you take away the bit about being limited to the disabled and retired, and adjust some of the amounts up or down, this is a pretty good description of the Canadian medical insurance scheme. We always thought it was socialized, but what do we know?
3270) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 924701)
Posted 8 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
She not like way we talk. Make much noise. Me go find meat now.
3271) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many Finnish movies have you seen? (Message 924595)
Posted 8 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Great. Have you seen other Aki Kaurismäki's films?


If they are played on late night TV in Tampere and Kuopio, I've seen them.
3272) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 924594)
Posted 8 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Personally, I find any discussion of evolutionary differences between men and women utterly fascinating, partly because it explains so much in our daily life (as Ned pointed out) and partly because I am, by nature, a $hit disturber.

Don't remember the speaker's name, but many years ago I heard a lecturer sum it up all beautifully. If you don't believe there are fundamental differences in how we work, just watch how men and women handle shared tasks. Watch two men moving a fridge through a narrow doorway. Lots of gestures, facial expressions, quiet grunts, and almost spooky understanding of each others intent, getting the job done with minimal noise. Just like hunting mammoths. Now listen (and I do mean listen) to two women doing anything together. Just like they were scaring away small predators while gathering roots and berries. We are all hard wired, it seems.

By the way, the lyricist for the NSB is (obviously) a man.
3273) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 924442)
Posted 7 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Actually, I think she is crocheting.

And, I think he meant Bring Your Own Burgers. In case it's a vegetarian thing.

"I didn't reach the top of the food chain to eat salad!" Nihilist Spasm Band
3274) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 924382)
Posted 7 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

On second thought....

It can't be much of an accord, given that "Donnie" isn't much of a rock and roller, and "Marie" isn't all that country.


The problem with a two party system is that so called moderates usually write the compromises.



No easy answer there. we had a nice three party system for years in Canada, two of them took turns being the government while the third one kept them both honest. That has exploded over the last few years into a 4 maybe 5 sometimes 6 party system. This has resulted in a series of minority governments, all of them unstable - in every sense of that term. It also leaves the majority of Canadians looking at their government in amazement and saying "who on earth voted for THEM?!?!?!"
3275) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 924313)
Posted 7 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, it appears I have the politically correct edition. Oh well.

Still, it was an interesting experience, playing that LP for the first time in about 10 years. You are right about the doomy, eerie sound. I had forgotten how slow they sometimes played, for electrical rock type music.

I prefer to find similarities between bands, rather than putting them in stamp collecting kind of categories. The other band that kept popping into my mind while listening to War Pigs and Iron Man was Blue Rodeo. Clearly not heavy metal, some would say not even really rock. But they have the same stately pace and sombre lyrics, especially in some of their early electric stuff.

And I guess that brings us back to Eric's attempt to fan the flames in the whole country versus rock thing. Not buying it. There are really only two kinds of music: music you like, and music you don't like. Even "music" can be too restrictive a label. If you insist on rhythm and melody, you never get to discover things like the Nihilist Spasm Band. From right here in London.

Here is a nice easy piece to introduce you to the NSB.
3276) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 924218)
Posted 7 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

I agree it is all about what you like, and I like lots of different types of music (including a tad bit of country) with the exception of anything Rap, Hip Hop or Dance (and even then, there's an exception because I like Coolio's Gangster's Paradise).


And don't forget the Beastie Boys. Hey laaaadies!

Respectfully, I don't believe in any such "man" trying to control all things we see, hear and do. Marketing will always try to put their slant on it, but those of us intelligent enough to see through the BS of marketing knows that "the man" can never control us


So you and I know about it, but who is buying all that crap? People who obey The Man (in my opinion). In my lexicon The Man isn't necessarily controlling how we think, just how we spend.

I don't know at what point they changed it, but if its one of the originals the song War Pigs on vinyl has the original lyrics to War Pigs/Luke's Wall in which they sing about casting a Priest into the fire.


I'm warming up my amp right now, and will report later.
3277) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 924213)
Posted 7 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Heavy metal is all about the deep, hard sound and the doomy, eerie lyrics that go along with it. That doesn't describe Steppenwolf at all, does it?


Then it sort of goes back to Gregorian chant, or maybe Celtic sea shanties, doesn't it?

Personally, I can't get too hung up on labels. They always make me suspicious, since so many of them are made up by The Man in order to push another load of crap on us. To me, it is all about what you like.

By the way, I still have Paranoid on vinyl. This is my second copy, bought in about 1973, after I wore the first one out. I got a better turntable about then, so this second one is still in decent shape. Especially when played LOUD :)
3278) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 924206)
Posted 6 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Steppenwolf coined the term "heavy metal" on their first album, so how could anybody be playing it before that?

The first Steppenwolf album was released in 1968, but the band had been playing together as The Sparrows since January 1965. In Canada. Have to admit I don't know the early history of Black Sabbath.

If you're going to get all hung up on "style" and "content" of the music, you will wind up tracing it all back to Les Paul. Or maybe Bo Diddly. Neither of them are Canadian, but they still made really nice music.
3279) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many Finnish movies have you seen? (Message 924198)
Posted 6 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Everything made by the Leningrad Cowboys, and a lot of stuff on late night Finnish TV, but I have no clue what it was. It sort of looked like movies. Kind of.
3280) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 924196)
Posted 6 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Now, if you want to start a civil war within a single genre, I love arguing with those sadly mistaken individuals who think Led Zepplin started heavy metal and properly educate them as to why Black Sabbath are the true progenitors of that type of music. :)


Excuse me, what about Steppenwolf? Did I mention that they are Canadian?
3281) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 924163)
Posted 6 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If only it was true Ned.

Sadly, many of my generation still listen to the Osmonds, and the Jacksons (en famille and solo). It is all part of the tragic decline of western culture that has brought us to where we are today: people thinking that commercial radio stations actually play music, and that MP3s can actually reproduce it.

Our only hope lies with the brave post D&M Accord warriors who continue to make music that is kinda nice (as opposed to falling into neat marketing categories), despite the efforts of The Man to make us think that his categorized slick commercial crap is art. That is where the D&MA went wrong. It's not about Country or Rock. It's about sounding nice or sounding like (word deleted to keep moderators happy).

So here's to The Cowboy Junkies, The Ducks, Steve Earl, the Arrogant Worms, Michael Occhipinti, the Plaid Tongued Devils and even Great Big Sea and the Lee Harvey Osmonds, for keeping true art alive in these ugly times.

"In ugly times, the truest protest is beauty." - Phil Ochs
3282) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 924147)
Posted 6 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
To err is human ;)



... but to forgive is devine. (Alexander Pope)

... but it feels devine. (Mae West)

... but to forgive is not the current policy of this government. (numerous sources)

... but to really screw things up takes a computer. (numerous sources)

... so what's your excuse? (Bazooka joe)
3283) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 924141)
Posted 6 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I expected better of you Eric. Only die-hard Amerikans still think the Donnie and Marie Accord dealt with global music issues in a decisive fashion.

Clearly, they lacked the scope and authority to speak for the true people's music, as defined in the Hank Snow Manifesto (issued by Hank from his home commune in Nova Scotia in 1952). Amerikan ex-pat Rompin' Ronnie continues his glorious genre-bending music of the people, by the people to this day from his secret base in the jungles of Hog Town, as do Mississauga's favorite musical family, The Cowboy Junkies. (Our answer to the Osmands, and the Jacksons.)

Clearly, Donnie and Marie's influence is limited to their own country, if not only to Utah. Rural Utah at that. The bit west of I-15, over near Nevada, past the gas station just outside of St. George. How long will Amerika continue to prop up these false puppet regimes, denying the people the music they want?

And, by the way, we won the War of 1812. Neener neener.
3284) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 924063)
Posted 6 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If at first you don't succeed, suck eggs.
3285) Message boards : Number crunching : Comminicating with BOINC Client. Please wait ... (Message 923978)
Posted 6 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have had this monologue/dialogue box a few times, on a dual core none GPU machine never holding more than a few dozen WUs, SETI plus everything else. In my case, it goes away by itself in a few minutes. If that is too long for me, rebooting the whole machine gets rid of it as well.

I think this only shows up after my (approximately) weekly reboots for other reasons. I haven't really checked if the aps are still running while the box is up, since it usually clears itself.
3286) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 923975)
Posted 6 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Group hug everybody, group hug!

you see Eric, Canadians are basically lovers, not fighters.
3287) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 923952)
Posted 6 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
"A man's reach should exceed his grasp" — Robert Browning
3288) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 923860)
Posted 5 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, Beth Ditto and Dolly Parton do have a couple of large things in common. Musically, that is.

Hey, sooner or later somebody was going to say it. I just got it out of the way so the serious discussion could start.

Neither of them are Canadian.....


True, but we would gladly embrace them, if they decided to emigrate.
3289) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How to start another war... (Message 923750)
Posted 5 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, Beth Ditto and Dolly Parton do have a couple of large things in common. Musically, that is.

Hey, sooner or later somebody was going to say it. I just got it out of the way so the serious discussion could start.
3290) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : If fire insurance were like health insurance. (Message 923562)
Posted 4 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Kraft does make something called "Macaroni and Cheese" and it says "Kraft Dinner" in really small letters, but I don't think it's the same at all.


Probably not the same. I think in Canada they can't actually use the word "cheese" on KD, for legal reasons. It's a "cheese-like substance", or something like that.
3291) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : If fire insurance were like health insurance. (Message 923486)
Posted 3 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You mean you don't have Kraft Dinner?!?!?!?

No wonder you are so confused about health care. Obviously, it's bad nutrition.

Nothing a little KD&W won't clear up. also, I recommend day old KD, right out of the fridge, smothered in ketchup. Everything will be much clearer then.
3292) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : If fire insurance were like health insurance. (Message 922977)
Posted 1 Aug 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

The only time Canada was ever invaded was by Americans in 1812, and we all know the outcome of that little adventure.


You might find out that many Americans don't know the outcome of that little adventure. Or at least have a different interpretation of the outcome.


A quick Google search will show several quotes from senior US elected members in 1812 stating that the purpose of the North American part of this global war was to "liberate" the remaining British colonies in North America, and thus allow them to join up with the US. I remember those quotes every time I go through Customs between the US and Canada, 180+ years later. I think I get searched more often because I'm grinning so much.
3293) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : If fire insurance were like health insurance. (Message 922797)
Posted 31 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Be quiet Robert! Look what happened to Iraq when the US figured out they needed the oil!

Oh, and about invasions. You forgot the Fenians in the 1840s. They were an Irish terrorist organization, based in and largely funded by the US. We whupped their a$$ too.
3294) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OK WE ALL TALK BUT WHO HAS SEEN A UFO OR ALIEN (Message 922703)
Posted 31 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I used to be a card carrying registered alien. That was when I was going to university in the US.
3295) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 922699)
Posted 31 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
An expert on a subject knows where the limits of his knowledge lie.

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

And those who can't teach administrate.


Actually, those who can't teach, teach phys ed.
3296) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : If fire insurance were like health insurance. (Message 922642)
Posted 31 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Right on AB! The True North Strong and (relatively) Free!
3297) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 922148)
Posted 29 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Stress engineer's aphorism:

When in doubt, make it stout.

Pilot's aphorism:

Take offs are optional, but landings are mandatory.
3298) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : If fire insurance were like health insurance. (Message 922142)
Posted 29 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So what alternatives to governments handling natural disasters (etc.) do you propose? What are their track records?

Yes, governments suck many times, and really suck once in a while. But what are the choices?
3299) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : If fire insurance were like health insurance. (Message 922133)
Posted 29 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It's also true, in spite of what libertarian thought and corporatists tell us, one of the things government can do very well is take care of those in need.


Try telling that to the Hurricane Katrina victims.


Emphasis added in first quote. Governments are run by people and thus prone to failures and mistakes. Unless somebody has a better solution, this just means you need to constantly monitor and correct your government. The big advantage a true democracy has over other forms of government is the ability to do this.
3300) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aphorisms (Message 922117)
Posted 29 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here's one for those who work in tech support:

Never underestimate the stupidity of your customers.
3301) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : If fire insurance were like health insurance. (Message 922097)
Posted 29 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I disagree that we should hand over the duty of taking care of "the weakest" to government. In the end, it's the responsibility of us all to take care of others.

The government is all of us. It is our collective will that allows government to exist.


Well said!

Perhaps a government in a libertarian society could just send people the names of the "weakest" that they are directly responsible for. Along with their medical bills.
3302) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : If fire insurance were like health insurance. (Message 922031)
Posted 29 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Careful Eric, I hear that it is hard for socialists to get government funding where you live.
3303) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : If fire insurance were like health insurance. (Message 921690)
Posted 27 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I get really tired of all the excuses doctors have for their standard of living, in Canada, and elsewhere. There are lots of us, like Eric and myself, who spent a lot of time and money in school to advance our careers, and have benefited society as a result. (Well, probably more Eric than me.)

I don't buy that old line about "lives in our hands" either. How much did they pay the last guy who worked on the elevator you're about to ride in?

Like anything else in a free or semi-free marketplace, doctors charge that much because they can get away with it.
3304) Message boards : Number crunching : Longer MB tasks are here (Message 921004)
Posted 24 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You might want to wait until you get the actual credits. My first two long MBs are now on the credit pending list (thanks to Matt for turning it back on), and a rough mental calculation shows about the same credits per hour as the old shorter WUs. Old WUs were 40 to 50 credits each for 1:00 to 1:15 CPU time, new longer ones are about 90 credits pending, for just over 2:00. Also, these new WUs first showed up with a predicted run time of around 2:45, but are actually completing in about 2:10.

On a slightly different topic, I see that all my granted credits in the list are now EXACTLY the same as the claimed credit, before I always expected about 80% to 90% of the claimed value to be granted. Is this a change in how SETI is calculating and assigning credits?
3305) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : If fire insurance were like health insurance. (Message 920896)
Posted 24 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
One of the first questions you have to answer: do you WANT a fair market for health services?

To use an Ericesque analogy - you have, in North America, a fair market for cars. At one end of the spectrum, a few people drive Ferraris and Rolls Royces. In the middle, most of us drive Fords and Toyotas and such. At the other end, some people take the bus, or just walk. Do you want health care to be like that?

The alternative, as in Canada, is an even level of health care dictated by a faceless grey bureaucracy. It is NOT the best health care money can buy. It is probably more or less the best health care we can, on average, afford.

I'm not sure which is best, you have to make that choice yourself.

Another thought, about Eric's third point (doctor shortage). We have exactly the same kind of shortages here in Ontario, and there is a huge debate over the reasons for this. One theory is that the government (who also funds the health system) has artifically created the shortage (through university funding, mostly) to control the costs of the government funded health care. If you can't see a doctor, you're not costing the system anything (at least until you die, but then that's another department). So (maybe) it's not about private enterprise versus government intervention, but just about human nature.
3306) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : If fire insurance were like health insurance. (Message 920858)
Posted 24 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And in the end her clients pay the insurance premiums, through their fees. Same in this country, except I pay my doctor's insurance premium through my taxes.
3307) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : If fire insurance were like health insurance. (Message 920850)
Posted 23 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, if you're going to put it THAT way, of course it all sounds silly. (Just kidding.)

At the risk of upsetting some Americans and some Canadians, let me point out the good and the bad of the Canadian medical system. According to CNN, some of you Yanks seem to have an interest in it.

Our doctors still make way too much, and are mostly private contractors. So are many other medical specialists. Still, many want to move to the US because they are in it to make money first, and to help people second. You are welcome to them.

Most nurses, and most technicians, are civil servants, who work for a large, slow moving bureaucracy, and make just above minimum wage. Many of them want to move to the US too, and they have my sympathy.

Health care care is still a huge, fragmented industry: part government, part not for profit, and part for profit. Like any large organization run by humans, it can be slow, it makes mistakes, and it can be frustrating to deal with. (Except for SETI, of course.)

Having said all that, my minimum government health care insurance has been in effect through several layoffs, going back to grad school, and several years of self-employment. Most years I paid nothing, now I pay a sliding fee based on my salary. That's our province's recent answer to rising costs, other provinces are allowed to make other decisions. Prescription drugs are a kicker for the self employed: I make just enough that I don't get any government assistance with them. It's a pain right now, but I know that if my income stops for some reason, I have something to fall back on.

This large, clumsy, slow moving, infuriating system saved my life a few years ago. It has saved several friends and relatives. It has saved a few friends and relatives from a live of lowered standard of living, just because they had the misfortune to have children that needed long term medical care. All for free, except for our high tax rates, but that's OK with me. Them that's got pay, them that don't are looked after anyway. They are all my brothers and sisters, after all.

So, bottom line? Is it perfect? Of course not, people run it. There are still huge problems with the painfully slow speed that new treatments and new equipment gets approved for government funding, and this is mostly what we hear about in our press. But for the 99+% of us that don't need the new stuff, it keeps us alive. And it keeps me from choosing between poverty or watching my loved ones die long painful deaths.

My message to any Americans who are interested - your health care will have to change, because people are changing, the world is changing, and people's expectations are changing. You will have to watch this change like a hawk, or a small percentage of you will get very rich screwing the rest of you.
3308) Message boards : Number crunching : AP TPT question (Message 920730)
Posted 23 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Richard. I started looking at the longer term Scarecrow graphs after my last post, to try to get a feel for "normal" AP statistics. However, I think that "normal" and "SETI statistics" can't really be used in the same sentence.
3309) Message boards : Number crunching : AP TPT question (Message 920724)
Posted 23 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I suspect that the current 40/hour return rate reflects the bandwidth issues and all the adjustments being made continuously. If you look at Scarecrow's graphs for a longer time period, like 30 days, you see long sustained periods of 100 to 200/hour, and spikes up to 900/hour.

However, if we are seeing an increase in AP creation rate (at least in the short term), and assuming user crunching power is constant in this same short term, then I would expect the turn around time to climb.

EDIT - just checked the 60 day Scarecrow graph, and 60 days ago AP return rate was over 1000/hour. You can also clearly see the turn around time climbing as the return rate drops.
3310) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI energy usage (Message 920362)
Posted 22 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Texas homes for some reason have no basement level. Seems odd that the one place you'd want to have a basement and you can't get one.

The main reason for a deep foundation is to get down below the frost line into stable soil (so the house doesn't shift between seasons).

In a warm climate, you don't have that problem, and basements aren't needed.


Totally off topic, but there are several very cold locations in Canada where basements are not feasible because of rocky soil (unless you blast, which tends to upset the neighbours). The answer is either to drill and drive deep piles, or "float" the house on a thick pad of concrete and re-bar, or live in a moving house.
3311) Message boards : Number crunching : possible bug (Message 919822)
Posted 20 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I sometimes get the same message when SETI is having fits, while other projects are merrily uploading and downloading. I assumed that depending on whatever step in the linking process broke down due to bandwidth clogging, BOINC might be seeing this as a network failure.

It is only a dumb little program, after all. ;)
3312) Message boards : Technical News : Working as Expected (Jul 13 2009) (Message 918449)
Posted 16 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wouldn't this mean all your pending uploads would get backed by the same delay time? Then you again get x numbers of jobs trying to upload at the same time. I think the present system, where each failed upload gets a pseudo-random delay time, more effectively spreads out the downstream retries.


YES, and NO... Boinc has an inbuilt setting which only allow x number of simultaneous tranfers (Default = 2 per project)


So after the delay BOINC would try x uploads, then when they fail x more, and so on. That sounds exactly like what happens right now when a frustrated user hits "Retry Now" for all his umpteen pending uploads. Not an improvement, in my opinion.
3313) Message boards : Technical News : Working as Expected (Jul 13 2009) (Message 918443)
Posted 16 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wouldn't this mean all your pending uploads would get backed by the same delay time? Then you again get x numbers of jobs trying to upload at the same time. I think the present system, where each failed upload gets a pseudo-random delay time, more effectively spreads out the downstream retries.

Edit added after serious thought: maybe what we need is longer maximum delay times, meaning an adjustment in BOINC and an adjustment in the deadlines set by the projects. All this would result in longer turn around times on the average, but that may be the price we pay to accommodate the ever increasing number of users on limited hardware. On a related note, I can remember when airlines would sell you a ticket AFTER you got on the plane on some shuttle flights, now you have to buy the ticket days in advance and get to the airport hours before the flight. All just signs of straining infrastructure.
3314) Message boards : Technical News : Working as Expected (Jul 13 2009) (Message 918230)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Given the choice of frequent updates, or Matt giving the tasks his undivided attention, I vote for undivided attention.


Agreed.
3315) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (20) Server problems (Message 918229)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I would like to hereby officially lobby for Trac 139 to be actioned.
3316) Message boards : Number crunching : Bandwith solution suggestion (Message 918228)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

This is a clever idea.

The problem is: valid results are not necessarily identical, so the checksums will be different even on valid results.


I thought about that, but is there some other indicator of validity (call it a Super Checksum) that takes up less bits than the full results package?
3317) Message boards : Technical News : Working as Expected (Jul 13 2009) (Message 918179)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm glad I checked the forum or I woulda never known why the 6 tasks that have been completed were still sitting in there in "upload" mode & have been for the last 4 days. I thought maybe it was my setup, but since I know it isn't that..I guess I'll just have to be patient.
Take care & have a great day


Now THAT post reflects a thoughtful and caring Canadian. ;)
3318) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (20) Server problems (Message 918178)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I wish I could turn off networking, but I have another project that needs networking active.

Hopefully soon they add in per-project networking options.


I'll second that. I didn't want to interupt my other projects, especially when it looked like I might run out of SETI.

When I had the time over the last few days, I would turn off network activity until one of my non-SETI jobs had some uploading or downloading to do, and then turn it back on long enough for the other project to get new work. It would be nicer if BOINC could handle this without my attention.

Note to those who run BOINC - this may look like a SETI specific request today, but the other projects could get into the same situation as SETI someday, if they are lucky ;).
3319) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI energy usage (Message 918158)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Arecibo is both a radiotelescope doing astronomical research and a planetary radar. It also researches the ionosphere. SETI is a piggy-back project which exploits only a small part of Arecibo capabilities.
Tullio
An example of Arecibo astronomical research is the Binary Pulsar Search whose data I am now crunching at Einstein@home.


[joke]So, the intent of SETI was just to take unused portions of the Arecibo capabilities, without building huge purpose-specific power-sucking crunchers - er, receivers? Why does that sound familiar?[/joke]
3320) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (20) Server problems (Message 918148)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just a theory, based on looking at Cricket graphs for the last week or month.

It looks to me like maybe the Berkley Boys have been playing with different ways of throttling downloads and uploads, in order to keep the 100 meg pipe full of mostly data, instead of clogging it with ACKs and other overhead when we try to cram too much into it all at once.
3321) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (20) Server problems (Message 918106)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As usual, Ned has a good point.

Also, I belive the "linkage" occurs in BOINC, not just in SETI. Even if disabling the linking would help now, it would defeat the concept of BOINC being universal if each project could start manipulating it to work around their unique issues.

NEWS FLASH - I just had one WU upload! Only about a dozen left now...

15/07/2009 1:04:50 PM SETI@home Finished upload of 24fe09ab.20328.11115.5.8.44_3_0
3322) Message boards : Number crunching : Interesting question (Message 918076)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Richard. That makes it easier to wait out all the kerfuffle at SETI.


And I just downloaded a bunch of WCG jobs. We crunch on....
3323) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (20) Server problems (Message 918057)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As I understand it, the "linking" is done to cover lots of other possibilities, like problems in the user's computer or in the connections between the user and the project. You don't want the project sending units to a computer that won't recieve them or can't process them. This would waste the project's resources, and could result in work units timing out at the users end.

Right now, the uploads have probably been disabled while the SETI guys try to set up some new configuration on their end to work around our bandwith problems. Or, it may be a hardware problem at SETI. In either case, it will eventually be resolved. In the mean time, try another BOINC project and (as I am about to do) have a cup of tea.
3324) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI energy usage (Message 918052)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I just want to clearly state that Overlord Xenu does not speak on behalf of all Canadians, or represent typical Canadian viewpoints and manners.

And, more seriously, thanks to OzzFan and others for keeping us on the straight and narrow.
3325) Message boards : Number crunching : Interesting question (Message 918024)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Richard. That makes it easier to wait out all the kerfuffle at SETI.
3326) Message boards : Number crunching : Interesting question (Message 918020)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Question about the 2 times CPUs rule: I'm way over 2 times on pending SETI uploads, will this prevent my other projects from being able to download? Still about a day away from finding out the hard way.
3327) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (19) Server problems (Message 917435)
Posted 13 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So it makes sense to split each file into the all the MB and all the AP just once, and then swap it out for the next unit of long term storage. I assume there isn't room to store too many extra APs, if you wanted to send them out slower than the current creation ratio of MB to AP. You would just move the clog up from the I/O to available storage on the servers.

I guess you could designate a day a week (or whatever) to just send APs, to keep the balance of WUs created without overloading the pipe or filling up temporary storage. This would mean no MBs sent out that day (or whatever), but if that occurred at fixed predictable intervals it might be more publicly acceptable than the current on-again/off-again jams.

Still, that effectively means throttling the total data created and sent out, by shutting down ALL splitting while you catch up on the APs. It would just be a temporary fix, pending a solution to the 100 meg bandwith issue.
3328) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (19) Server problems (Message 917429)
Posted 13 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Richard. Since they are "virtual" tapes, "virtually" loading them a second time shouldn't be a big deal. I'm old enough to have loaded a lot of large data tapes, and got in the habit of looking for ways to minimize handling of the beasts.

Are there any other reasons for the current ratio of MB to AP? If not, your suggestion makes a lot of sense.
3329) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (19) Server problems (Message 917423)
Posted 13 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Amen.

Does the MB and AP data come from the same tapes? In other words, Do you load a tape once and produce MP and AP work units from it? Does that fix the ratio of MB to AP, unless you want to load tapes more than once?
3330) Message boards : Technical News : More of the Same (Jul 09 2009) (Message 917422)
Posted 13 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Does the MB and AP data come from the same tapes? In other words, Do you load a tape once and produce MP and AP work units from it? Does that fix the ratio of MB to AP, unless you want to load tapes more than once?
3331) Message boards : Number crunching : Bottlenecks of SETI computations (Message 917365)
Posted 13 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I note my group brethren are humming along at about the same RAC they were running a few months ago. Meaning my 50% reduction is unique in the group.

Art


Do you know how many of the others in your group were running optimized aps? My understanding is that stock AP and stock MB give roughly the same credits per hour.

In my case, running optimized aps for AP and MB, I've gone from RAC of 1100 to 1200 a few months ago, when I got almost all AP, down to about 700 with all MB today.
3332) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (19) Server problems (Message 917168)
Posted 12 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


The reason is simple. The feeder process sends out a 100 results every 2 seconds. Split in 97 MB and 3 AP. Based on the file size this is about 36MB for MB and 25MB for AP.

With no AP to send the amount of data to download dropped with close to 40%.


Does the feeder send 100 MB if no AP is available?
3333) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (19) Server problems (Message 916986)
Posted 12 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, what did the Boys in Berkley do to bring about this sudden calmness?

Ran out of AstroPulse work.


Just checked the Scarecrow graphs to see what happened to AP when the bandwidth calmed down, and noticed ALL the AP and MB statistics seem to flatline about the same time. Maybe access from statistics pages like Scarecrow was stopped, contributing to the calmness?
3334) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (19) Server problems (Message 916979)
Posted 12 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Couldn't find a thread about "no panic", so I'm posting here.

As of midnight Friday UTC the Cricket graphs have smoothed right out below max, and all my uploads are going through on the first try. Not getting any downloads, probably because I have a few dozen shorty MB WUs running in high priority mode.

So, what did the Boys in Berkley do to bring about this sudden calmness?
3335) Message boards : Number crunching : Credits (Message 916552)
Posted 10 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I find the credits most useful in a relative way, rather than any absolute sense. If I make any change to my computer setup or run times (usually NOT because of SETI and BOINC) comparing my credit rate before and after the change tells me how much BOINC and its projects have been changed - if at all.

And remember, 10,000 BOINC points, plus $1.50, will get you a regular double double at Timmies. (For the Canucks out there.)
3336) Message boards : Technical News : More of the Same (Jul 09 2009) (Message 916349)
Posted 9 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A question for Matt et al that may be related to your current efforts: what is the Vote Monitor that now shows up on the server status page? Is this new, or have I been missing it until today?
3337) Message boards : Number crunching : I QUIT! (Message 915553)
Posted 8 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Using outdated/obsolete hardware is Environmentally Irresponsible.

Could the Seti@Home distributed computing project then be considered anti-green by association ?

Have fun with that one ;)


Are you sure you're Canadian? you over simplify complicated arguements like a German, or an American.

If I leave my old clunker running 9 to 5 because I'm expecting business related e-mails, and then give the spare CPU cycles to BOINC, there is no net increase in wasted energy, green house gasses, etc.

If I build a multi CPU multi GPU speed machine to occaisonally read those same e-mails, and let it run 24/7 to get RAC to prop up my fragile ego, THAT is Environmentally Irresponsible.
3338) Message boards : Number crunching : I QUIT! (Message 915528)
Posted 8 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Comments about other folks hardware like that are less than helpful and smack of elitism.


I agree fully. Elitist class-based thinking like that leads to Boston Tea Parties, the fall of the Bastille, and October Revolutions.

Another point to consider here is that scientifically SAH work is just rote data reduction, and therefore it really isn't a 'race' unless one chooses to look at it as such. For me, I couldn't care less if it takes until the cows come home to complete a task as long as it makes the deadline.

Alinator




Again I agree completely. If SETI is supposed to somehow "serve" the desires of users, don't the desires of those of us interested in the Science have as much priority as the desires of the Speed Racer crowd?
3339) Message boards : Number crunching : I QUIT! (Message 915502)
Posted 7 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Haven't we been over all this many times before?

Are you suggesting that we can clear up the traffic jams by getting rid of a small per centage of users who upload or download maybe once or twice a week?

[smartass]Maybe we should allow one free WU per day, and then charge for extras. That way we could fund all sorts of nifty improvements. If you can afford multiple GPUs you can pay for all the WUs![/smartass]

But seriously... One of the functions of SETI and BOINC is to develop the concept of distributed processing. That includes finding out what the real population of volunteer CPUs looks like and is capable of. Forcing that population to change sort of screws that up.

A seperate part of the experiment might include encouraging the volunteer population to "self edit" itself. Hey, maybe that is what happening here! The outages have been deliberately introduced, to see who can put up with it and who leaves! They are so sneaky...

Edit to add another thought about CUDAs: So we get rid of the old PCs and go full Cuda. I suspect that would clear things up for a few weeks, amaybe months. By then the high paid techno-elite will have choked the system with more Cudas. How do we prune then? Draw straws? Restrict the project to diamond plated GPUs? The point is that the system has to adopt the users, not the other way around. Adopting the system is easy, all it takes is time and money.
3340) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC doesn't get new work properly??? (Message 915486)
Posted 7 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Wasn't it Arthur C. Clarke who said any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature?
3341) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC doesn't get new work properly??? (Message 915293)
Posted 7 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
JRavin, another way to look at what people are telling you is that the workshare will eventually sort out, but it may take weeks or even months.

In my case, I often take one of my crunchers with me on road trips, with irregular connections and crunching hours per day. In the last few months it seemed every time I could connect, SETI was having some sort of problem. My SETI RAC went way down, 700 to 300, but my backup projects RAC went up. I've been at home 2 whole weeks now, and even with the current upload/download problems my SETI cue has filled up. I'm now crunching just about full time SETI, my backup projects are running at way under their workshare, and not requesting new work.

If I look at the actual work split between projects over the last 48 hours, it looks nothing like what I set in my preferences. But if I look at the split over the last 6 months, it is pretty much spot on.

Edit - Another example of what this means: my one remaining Rosetta WU just went into High Priority mode. Because of the increased SETI crunching in the last few days, this WU was ignored until its deadline got too close. Now nothing will download new tasks until this WU finishes. Again, workshares and download shares get out of whack, but only until this WU finishes (probably today). Then things will gradually drift back to "normal"
3342) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (19) Server problems (Message 914411)
Posted 5 Jul 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

One thing I've noticed is the "random backoff" -- I just triggered a set of uploads, and I got backoff times ranging from 1 minute to 3 1/2 hours, with an average on my little cruncher of two hours.

If all of the 180,000 active hosts average about 4 uploads waiting, and they all try each upload every couple of hours, that's 360,000 upload attempts per hour, or 6,000 per minute.

It seems to me that giving a project the ability to tune the random backoff would be very helpful.


There may be something like this in place already. Speaking as an amateur (even though I have engineer in my job title, its a different kind): I have been forcing transfers every few hours for the last day, getting one or two or three of 10 to 15 through each time. When the unsuccessful transfers "randomly" set a wait time, those that have been there the longest get the longest wait (several hours), new ones get a few minutes wait.
3343) Message boards : Number crunching : Reliable backup project (Message 911609)
Posted 26 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Climate Prediction. Tasks take hundreds of days, with points received for intermediate reports. Plus, the graphics are kind of cool.
3344) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where is everyone? (Message 911484)
Posted 26 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Usually London, Ontario, but travel a lot on business. Tonight I'm in Grand Junction, Colorado. Hot and humid - at least for a Canuck.

London, of course, is on the northern fringe of the GSTA. Any more southwest Ontario residents here who get the reference?
3345) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #90 alternative thread (Message 911483)
Posted 26 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My win, and my first try with the new BBCodes.
3346) Message boards : Technical News : Advance (Jun 25 2009) (Message 911410)
Posted 25 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It all depends on your point of view Matt. I subscribe to the This Is Science, Really, school, so I'm still here, coming up on 10 years, and I don't complain about the occasional outage (well, not much, anyway).

It is kind of Darwinian, in a way. Those who subscribe to This Is A Service, And Its Not Very Reliable, school wind up drifting away, to the next fad or passion of the day. Good bye and good luck to the trendies, I'll stay here for a bit longer. Can't wait to see what happens next.
3347) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? IV (Message 909124)
Posted 19 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Finally at home for a few days in a row. It's cloudy and starting to rain, must be a weekend approaching.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EDT Friday 19 June 2009
Condition: Light Rainshower
Pressure: 101.2 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 2 km

Temperature: 14.2°C
Dewpoint: 14.2°C
Humidity: 100 %
Wind: ESE 11 km/h
3348) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #89 (Message 909123)
Posted 19 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
[quote]Three that I can see - excluding the bashful ones
Come out - Come out! Wherever you are!

We say Olie, Olie, Oxen Free!!!
Uli please


We used that as kids too, and I always wondered who Olie was, and what was he doing to the oxen? Maybe this is a mashed up version of some old language? Anybody got any ideas?

Oh, BTW, I win.
3349) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #89 (Message 908583)
Posted 18 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Fer sure...

Trying to be a keener eh.


Are you guys, like, making fun of Canadians, eh? TAKE OFF.


Hosers.
3350) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption XII (Message 908567)
Posted 17 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


... and then the Vice President shot me, right here.
3351) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #89 (Message 908563)
Posted 17 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning from the Baymont Hotel in Fort Smith, Arkansas.
3352) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #89 (Message 908416)
Posted 17 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good morning all. Back from a camping trip.... in my back yard. My kid's and thier friends all decided it was time for a camping trip. My house was choosen.


Now that brings back memories! Back then I was up all night watching them in the backyard, now I'm only up until the bars close and they make it home.

Also, winning.
3353) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti@ Home for @home users not users with access to corparate systems using their personal accounts (Message 908150)
Posted 16 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Careful gang, I smell a troll.

Speaking as a long time and card carrying Bozo, I wonder about Dr. Lipscomb's computers if they are using 20+ amps to run SETI (from his own numbers). Maybe they are all super-minis or other antiques? A VAX, or vacuum tubes, perhaps?

I work from home, and one of my two PCs running various BOINC is owned by my company. It's at home right now, but will be crunching from airports and a hotel room for a few days starting this evening. Does all this make me less of a "user"?

The whole idea is using spare CPU capacity, @home is just a cute name. We can't get too hung up on it.

And if your hobby is using your surplus money to create more spare CPU cycles, good for you. It keeps you out of the bars and pool halls, and may just contribute some valuable science some day. Surely a PhD can realize that.
3354) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (16) Server problems (Message 908003)
Posted 15 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I've actually run out of SETI, for the first time in months and months (maybe years). Not looking good going into the Great Shut Down.

WAIT! One puny little MB just arrived. Should be done in an hour or two. Oh well, time to catch up on WCG, etc. Hopefully something will get adjusted/refined/kicked during the shut down, and swamp us all with work.
3355) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #89 (Message 907848)
Posted 15 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Morning all. In for a quick win, in between road trips. I've been very busy the last few months.

All this talk of beer reminds me - a local micro brewery just won some world prize with a dark ale called 10W30 (seriously). Never heard of it before they won, and now all my local sources are sold out. Anybody try this stuff?
3356) Message boards : Cafe SETI : France to announce alien presence on earth Friday (Message 906838)
Posted 12 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I went from London to Paris in 2.5 hours. Via the Chunnel.


I quite regularly go from London to Paris in about an hour, in my Honda Civic.

Of course, that's London, Ontario to Paris, Ontario. I take the 401.

So, where are all these aliens the French were on about? It was posted on the Internet, so it MUST be true.
3357) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI Question (Message 906279)
Posted 11 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The other nice thing about many of the Teams is that their Forum moderators aren't so uptight.
3358) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI Question (Message 906204)
Posted 11 Jun 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Maybe I'm biased, but the Team Canada Forum has a lot of interesting topics, and interesting people. I spend a lot of time there these days, adding to my crunching experience (as someone else said).

BTW,foreigners are welcome.

http://teamcanada.freeforums.org/portal.php
3359) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car Racing 2009 (Message 897352)
Posted 20 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Mike & Carlos,

Have you guys heard is any of the teams are going to Diffusers for the rest of the season?




A quick search of old news articles on www.formula1.com shows these teams working on double diffusers:

Red Bull developing one, but won't have it for Monaco
Ferrari working on it, no dates given
3360) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How Spock and Sylar are related. (Message 897052)
Posted 19 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
She'll have Mr. T on her show discuss it alright. But unfortunately, Oprah herself is a Cyberdyne Systems Model T675 terminator that was sent back in time to kill Mr. T, because Mr. T is capable of preventing Skynet from coming on line.


That explains so much.....
3361) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW (The V Club) #85 (Message 896793)
Posted 19 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for Win in the 10 year club!


The win goes to another ten year member!
3362) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW (The V Club) #85 (Message 896792)
Posted 19 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for Win in the 10 year club!


The win goes to another ten year member!
3363) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW (The V Club) #85 (Message 896248)
Posted 18 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning on a May 2-4 weekend!

Note to Americans: the current Victoria Day in Canada is as much like the Queen's actual birthday as your President's Day is like any President's actual birthday. It's all a myth to keep the rabble down. So far, it's working.
3364) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 896246)
Posted 18 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nice sunny day, but a little cool, perfect for yard work. The gov'ment boys have a frost warning out for tonight, so the kitchen table is full of plants just purchased at the local garden centre. At least until the sun comes up.

By the way, happy 2-4 weekend to all the Canucks. The rest of you probably won't get that, eh.

Warnings
London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County
9:09 PM EDT Sunday 17 May 2009
Frost warning for
London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County continued

..Widespread frost expected tonight..

This is a warning that at or near zero ground temperatures will cause frost in the parts of these regions. Monitor weather conditions..Listen for updated statements.


Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 9:00 PM EDT Sunday 17 May 2009
Condition: Clear
Pressure: 102.5 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 8.5°C (47 F)
Dewpoint: -5.5°C
Humidity: 37 %
Wind: N 8 km/h
3365) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : How Spock and Sylar are related. (Message 896245)
Posted 18 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I pity the fool that can't tie Mr. T into all this!

So, how many points for that?
3366) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW (The V Club) #85 (Message 895074)
Posted 15 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We are winning.
3367) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW (The V Club) #85 (Message 895025)
Posted 15 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I win. No joke. (As implied by the previous informal agreement between the parties previously involved in unauthorized joking, herein after referred to as Hey You Guys.)
3368) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 895017)
Posted 15 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Looks like a nice start to the Canadian long weekend, but some showers possible tomorrow AM.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 1:00 PM EDT Friday 15 May 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 102.5 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 18.1°C (65 F)
Dewpoint: 8.9°C
Humidity: 55 %
Wind: E 13 km/h
3369) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : Astronomical Jury Duty (Message 895013)
Posted 15 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Scientists are humans, too.


Oh yeah? Prove it! I want to see a full doctoral thesis on the subject, complete with a peer review and finalized by a panel of judges. We'll just see about scientists being "human"! You're not fooling anybody!


Now OzzFan, you know that's not practical nor objective. A peer review would have to be done by scientists. But since the subject of the thesis is whether scientists are human, they are automatically disqualified as biased. Catch 22.


Perhaps we could have the review done by accountants then. Or maybe lawyers.
3370) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW (The V Club) #85 (Message 894353)
Posted 13 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My turn to win.
3371) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 894305)
Posted 13 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just back from a road trip to Clayton, Oklahoma, where my business plans were literally washed away by heavy rain. Came back to a bit of rain here, and everything is incredibly green.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 4:20 PM EDT Wednesday 13 May 2009
Condition: Light Rainshower
Pressure: 100.0 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 19 km

Temperature: 17.4°C (63 F)
Dewpoint: 7.7°C
Humidity: 54 %
Wind: SSE 24 gust 35 km/h
3372) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stupid Laws part #2 (Message 894301)
Posted 13 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is illegal for a man to drink with a woman in an Edmonton beer parlour in Alberta.



Speaking as a transplanted Albertan: This is a very old law, versions of it were found across Canada up until the early 1960s. It usually applied to smaller beer parlours, that didn't serve food. These establishments would be split into two parts (although they might share a central bar and cash register). One side was labelled "men only", the other side was "women and escorts". That was all the choice you got. A man could drink with a woman, but only on the "W&E" side. A woman on her own was out of luck.

One way around this was to serve food. You could also extend your serving hours in these places, if the price of food served equalled or exceeded the price of the booze. Beer prices were set by law, so it was not uncommon to see bars serve $5 bags of chips - the same bag being 25 cents in the cafe across the street. Ah, it all brings back memories of a misspent youth.

On a totally unrelated note: it is illegal in Alaska to wake a sleeping bear in order to photogrpah it. I guess it is OK if you just want to chat.
3373) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : Astronomical Jury Duty (Message 894294)
Posted 13 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All very interesting Eric. Having spent many years in the cut-throat world of doohickey manufacturing (as well as widgets, gizmos and other bits and pieces), I have sat on several standards and regulations committees where the competitors try to put aside their natural differences to work for the betterment of the whole industry, and maybe even all mankind. It is a struggle, but I would like to think that serious scientists (like you) would be better at that sort of thing than filthy capitalists and their lackey running dogs (like me).
3374) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 891698)
Posted 5 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Posting after Blurf, after Cebion.



So TL, I see you got the final pre-outrage post, CONGRATS!!!


Thank you.

Now posting after Cebion, after Labbie, after Blurf.

Posting after everybody. That makes me last. Hey, I win!
3375) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Did you know! (Message 891569)
Posted 5 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The Trickster

A common figure in the folklore of many indigenous peoples, the trickster is a god, goddess, spirit, human, or anthropomorphic animal who is often an amoral and comic troublemaker. The trickster's rule-breaking frequently takes the form of tricks or thievery. An enduring archetype, the trickster can be cunning, foolish, or both and often inspires laughter even when considered sacred. In many cultures, the trickster is also a culture hero

In the South West US, the Coyote usually fills that role.


In many Canadian indigenous cultures it is the Raven. Some say he created humans, or even the whole world as we know it, just for a laugh.
3376) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 891567)
Posted 5 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My good morning win.
3377) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 891277)
Posted 4 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is this the winning post?


No, this is.
3378) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 891129)
Posted 4 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another fine day here:

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EDT Monday 4 May 2009
Condition: Mainly Sunny
Pressure: 101.8 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 7.7°C (46 F)
Dewpoint: 1.4°C
Humidity: 64 %
Wind: ENE 11 km/h

And spring is slowly coming to the other end of the country:

Observed at: Alert Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EDT Monday 4 May 2009
Condition: Partly Cloudy
Pressure: 100.8 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -20.0°C (-4 F)
Dewpoint: -22.2°C
Humidity: 83 %
Wind: WNW 5 km/h
Wind Chill: -24
3379) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update (Message 891125)
Posted 4 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Dogs seem to be under represented on all the forums here. So, here is my senior citizen Bailey, at his day time post. He's keeping track of raccoons and bunnies on the front yard. Not that he'll do anything about them, he just likes to know.

3380) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 891123)
Posted 4 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This thread is becoming very obtuse, fragmented, divergent, and hard to follow. I love it.

And, I win.
3381) Message boards : Number crunching : priorities in BOINC 6.6.20 (Message 891036)
Posted 4 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry if this is off topic for SETI.

Can somebody direct me to an explanation of the new scheduling and work fetch priority numbers now available on the Properties button on the Projects tab of BOINC 6.6.20?
3382) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Swine Flu - media hype? (Message 891020)
Posted 4 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And now, according to CBC radio news, pigs are getting swine flu, from humans that visited Mexico. I almost drove off the road today when the news reading guy, in his very serious CBC voice, said "all the pigs are responding well to medicial treatment". I never, ever thought I would here that on a serious news show.
3383) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 890955)
Posted 3 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not winning (just whining.)


Not whining, just winning. Back from your run?
3384) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 890635)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
bleep

blork.

pork.

mork

stork

cork


Blork, blork, blork. Put da chicken in da pot yah, blork blork.
3385) Message boards : Number crunching : Not requesting tasks (Message 890609)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There is a bug in the 6.6.x series that can cause debts to get out of whack. I have been reporting this for weeks including logs of the wfd debug to no avail.

change your cc_config, stop the local client, exit BOINC Manager, restart, change cc_config to not reset debts. wait till the get out of whack again and repeat. Mine needs the kick every two days there abouts.

Note you cannot just re-read the config file, you have to stop and start again or the debts don't reset.


Paul, I seem to have a similar problem. Can you repeat all that, in very simple terms? Where do I find cc_config, and what do I do to it?
3386) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 890604)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Here is a good place for someone to win today.
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/events/open-house.cfm


I see that they don't allow Segways. Won't they lose a big portion of the all-important Total Geek demographic with that?
3387) Message boards : Number crunching : When should Seti jetison the weak? (Message 890597)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In a clinical sense, in the short term there is a strong sound logical reasoning and justification for dumping the weaker machines.


I still have not seen a convincing arguement for that in this thread. If I download one MB work unit every three months, how have I held up the Cuda guy who gets hundred of WUs a day? If SETI looses my one WU per quarter, the project is (very, very slightly) worse off.

You have to take a long term view point. The project is coming up on ten years. If I'm downloading even one WU a year over that time, that is ten WUs contributed by my old steam powered PC. Now, show me how I held up any of the super crunchers in the process.
3388) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stupid Laws part #2 (Message 890591)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
You can't use elephants to plow cotton fields in North Carolina.


But you can use them to plow other crop's fields?



Another wannabe lawyer ;).
3389) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update (Message 890579)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
KLC53, I think the need to defend territory varies greatly from breed to breed of domestic animals. It also helps dogs to function as a pack, and that can include their humans. Hunting dogs can be trained to be very agressive, when they know their pack includes a human with a big stick.

I find it interesting that your dogs never actually harm the wild critters. It must be all bluff and show for them. Word gets around in the wild about them, just like word has gotten around about my geriatric spaniel. Even the ducks don't look too concerned when he is in the back yard with them.
3390) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 890576)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning after mowing the lawn for the first time this year.
3391) Message boards : Number crunching : When should Seti jetison the weak? (Message 890545)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
doesn't anyone worry about the extremely ineffecient use of electricity with the very old systems?


That is the best argument for retiring old systems. FLOPS per watt. You can do two things with a newer system. Generate a lot more results for the same amount of electricity ($) or generate the same number of results with a lot less electricity ($). In the latter case, the new system will eventually pay for itself. Personally, I have retired all single core CPUs.


A lot of this makes sense, but surely it is the user who decides this, not SETI admins.

If, for example, an energy concerned user spends all their capitol making the rest of the household very energy efficient (new light bulbs, insulation, appliances, solar panels, etc.), and then can't afford to upgrade the old PC, his total energy use per person could be much less than somebody running a shiny new quad processor in a big house, with the windows open while the a/c runs, and with all the incandescent lights left on. The new PC could be replaced later, when the cash flow permits. Meanwhile, they continue to search for ET with a clear conscience.
3392) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 890536)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hey SJ, that's me waving at the camera. There, on the right.

Start of a beautiful weekend here. Yard work today, then off to visit my mother tomorrow. That means traversing the Big Smoke on the 401 (known locally as The 12 Lane Death Wish).

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 9:00 AM EDT Saturday 2 May 2009
Condition: Mainly Sunny
Pressure: 101.5 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 9.2°C
Dewpoint: 3.9°C
Humidity: 69 %
Wind: SW 21 km/h
3393) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 890534)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Morning all. I win.
3394) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Swine Flu - media hype? (Message 890532)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The local paper had a headline today thay makes sense, and seems to go against the general trend of the media to blow things up:

Clue In, Calm Down, and Wash Your Hands
3395) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update (Message 890528)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think having something like raccoons around can remind you of how different a wild animal and a domestic animal can be. Years ago, when I lived on the left coast, a friend of mine came home to find his two large huskies huddled together by the back door, actually shaking. The problem was a small raccoon, a few feet away, calmly eating their Alpo. The animals know who is who.

My current senior citizen spaniel is very careful to give the rabbits in our yard the right of way. You can tell the rabbits who have been around for a while, they don't even look up when the dog comes out. The dog flat refuses to go out when there are raccoons around. That is often our first sign that the raccoons are active in the area.
3396) Message boards : Number crunching : When should Seti jetison the weak? (Message 890522)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
...I don't have access to the data needed to analyze the problem. For example, just how many 'slow' cpu's are out there and what percentage of the daily production do they represent? Or, what could be saved if the bottom X% of hosts were jettisoned? Surely, this type of data is buried somewhere. I would hope someone reading this thread would be able to post some of it, or there estimates of it...

Maybe boincstats's S@h processor-stats (sorted by average credit) can help?


The fact remains that Matt tells us the choke point right now is CPU power, not anything on the server side. This is data accessible to anybody who can read and reason.

Jettisoning ANY CPU power will not change this. That is a rational, logical argument,that can be added to the previous posts about the original question's lack of humanity.

Sorry, I know it is just a troll, but us old guys get worked up easily.
3397) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 890366)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning. Again.
3398) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 890362)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My win. Me. All me. MEmemememememememe.

Talking about self centered.


Whatever. As long as I win.
3399) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 890354)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My win. Me. All me. MEmemememememememe.
3400) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raccoon Update (Message 890352)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very timely post Angela, as the racoons have come out of hibernation here as well. I have to admit I don't have names for mine, but I do follow their activities through the neighbourhood. This provides me great insight into the minds of racoons, and into the garbage of a few of my neighbours.

Going back to a thread many moons ago, I have new "racoon proof" garbage cans here this spring, and so far they are working.
3401) Message boards : Number crunching : When should Seti jetison the weak? (Message 890349)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
snip snip

* The oldest, least productive computer hosts are contributing an increasingly inconsequential amount of work as time marches on. They are probably valued more for nostalgia and idealism, than for their bone-dry value to the project. Whatever, the ancient machines are consumming their overhead's worth of resources and contributing very little (in absolute terms) in return.

more snip snip


Your lack of concern for nostaliga tells me you are relatively young. Your time will come.

Your lack of concern for idealism causes me grave concern for the future of the species.

To make you a little happier, how about if SETI and BOINC charge the old machines twice what they charge you? Oh what the heck, three times.

But seriously, if Matt tells us they are lacking in total computing power right now, dropping the low productivity machines just means the big crunchers still don't have enough CPU for what SETI wants. Maybe you should offer to pay us little guys to upgrade our CPUs?
3402) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 890253)
Posted 1 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And me.


No, me.
3403) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 890231)
Posted 1 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I win.
3404) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption IX..... (Message 890217)
Posted 1 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Those yellow ones give me gas.
3405) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 890188)
Posted 1 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning, can't see the moon or Berkely from here right now.
3406) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 890131)
Posted 1 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Gray and humid this morning here, but a forecast for sun and heat through the weekend. Yahoo! (As in happiness, not as in the searcher.)

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EDT Friday 1 May 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 100.9 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 11 km

Temperature: 14.6°C (58 F)
Dewpoint: 13.1°C
Humidity: 91 %
Wind: WSW 22 km/h
3407) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 890130)
Posted 1 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My good morning win.
3408) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption IX..... (Message 890129)
Posted 1 May 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Alright gang, that's ten.

Special honourable mention to klc53 - can you here me now? I thought everybody would say that, but you were first. The rest are very good as well, so my choices are completely arbitrary and totally meaningless. Just like I was the FAA (inside joke for the airplane buffs).

Second runner up is James Southerden - ground control to major tom

First runner up is SuperJoker - FAA Headquarters and Staff Personnel.


And the winner is ....

(drum roll)

HAL with Hello Amelia - our GPS Pigeon puts you 400 Miles East of Howland - Hello - Hello - Hello
3409) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption IX..... (Message 890005)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I was hoping to win the Lottery this week, but this will do.

Give it your worst, gang.

3410) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption IX..... (Message 889923)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
WaaaCHOO!

...Scuse me!

(sniff...)


I hope that's not a Mexican seal!
3411) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption IX..... (Message 889904)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:




Wow, it smells fishy. Again.
3412) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 889902)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
At risk of being pedantic (who me?) THGTTG says that forty two is the (wrong) answer to a rather different question.
To say more would require a spoiler alert. Win.


I had intended to bring that up, but I got rather involved in a ham sandwich first, and you beat me to it.

But I still win.

And I still think Geordie's visor is at least a type of glasses.

In reality It's a prop, I think the actor could barely see with It on.


Prop? Actor? you mean STNG is not a documentary?

Excuse me for a bit, I have to go away and rework my reality.

And I win.
3413) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Swine Flu - media hype? (Message 889901)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

AFAIK - in the UK you see now a 'commercial'.. a man in an elevator with the flu - sneezing and the elevator is 'infected'..
The other persons touch the areas where he sneezed..

It's not for to make panic - more for information that you need to sneeze in/to your hand.. :-D
OTOH.. but if he shake hands after.. ;-)

So - think about.. it's much easier to get it as you think.. ;-)


The government line over here is to sneeze into your elbow, not into your hand. It looks funny, but it seems to work.
3414) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 889897)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
At risk of being pedantic (who me?) THGTTG says that forty two is the (wrong) answer to a rather different question.
To say more would require a spoiler alert. Win.


I had intended to bring that up, but I got rather involved in a ham sandwich first, and you beat me to it.

But I still win.

And I still think Geordie's visor is at least a type of glasses.
3415) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 889841)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Rain is holding off for now, but my knee still says its coming.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 9:00 AM EDT Thursday 30 April 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 102.2 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 12.1°C
Dewpoint: 8.6°C
Humidity: 79 %
Wind: SE 17 km/h
3416) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 889839)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Me three??


Me four.
3417) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 889824)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Eyeglasses are not consistent with the Trek universe. Win.

Actually in One of the Movies McCoy gave Admiral Kirk a pair, He said what goes around, comes around, They later went back in time to search for Whales and Kirk cashed in the glasses in Frisco for some money for bus fare I gather.

I was going to mention that, but you beat me to it.

But that was only because Kirk was alergic to Retnox.

True, but since there are people that are alergic to retnox, glasses do not completely disappear - they just get rare.

LASIK must have been outlawed.

Well today Lasik cannot correct for everything. I know one person who had Lasik to correct distance vision. He still needs glasses to read.

That's today. We're talking about Star Trek miracle LASIK.

Or I could just post a pic...


But what about those things Geordie la Forge wore? Surely those count as glasses?

And BTW - I win.
3418) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 889664)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My turn to win.

So, Misfit, what do I have to do to get one of your pictures after a post?
3419) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 889510)
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Beautiful spring day here, but rain is coming. The weatherman and my right knee agree on that.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 12:00 PM EDT Wednesday 29 April 2009
Condition: Mainly Sunny
Pressure: 103.4 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 10.9°C (52 F)
Dewpoint: 0.9°C
Humidity: 50 %
Wind: E 35 km/h
3420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 889442)
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good morning Mike, hope the sun comes out soon.

Good morning SJ, keeping a house in fit shape is a never ending job.

Good morning Blurf - come on, tell us about the interview. I want to tell my friends I blog with somebody famous.

Good morning John - I win.
3421) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 889421)
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Morning all, and good afternoon where applicable. The sun is out here, birds are singing, life is good.
3422) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Swine Flu - media hype? (Message 889200)
Posted 28 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The media will hype it up as much as they did SARS. Watch for the Darth Vader masks to come out soon.


Not quite sure what you mean there. I live a few hours drive from where most of the 44 Canadian SARS deaths occurred. Doesn't feel much like hype when you are watching the daily body count come in from just down the road, and wondering if/when/where it will stop.

I suspect that this current flu thing will be like SARS in the sense that it will be very local, both geographically and demographically, to start with. Like SARS, though, it is worth watching because a small mutation in the virus could turn this into the next Big One.

Also, like SARS, it is more likely to claim victims that are already weakened, due to age, other medical conditions, etc. That means that the level of precautions you need to take very much depends on the individual.
3423) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 889135)
Posted 28 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Morning North America, good afternoon the rest of you. Winning from a rainy SW Ontario.
3424) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stupid Laws part #2 (Message 889001)
Posted 28 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Alaska:
It is illegal to push a live moose out of a moving airplane.


But what about a hovering helicopter?

Sorry, hanging out too much with lawyers.

WAY too much.


What about plane with pontoons floating on the water. Technically it would be a boat. Sorry, I am a lawyer.


The key word is moving. Was the float plane moving? Was it moving relative to the water, or relative to any other inertial frame? What is movement, and how do we apply it in this matter? Are inertial frames and non-inertial frames treated differently under Alaska law? Under Federal aviation law, the float plane is a plane, even while on the water, although it may fall under those aspects of marine law that do not contradict federal laws. consider these precedents....

Your Honor, I move for a brief recess. Most of the jury appears to be asleep.
3425) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What kind of email do you use? (Message 888997)
Posted 28 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Call me old fashioned, but I still use Outlook. Mostly because many of my clients use the Calendar and meetings functions for their whole office, and let me share info with them. Just got used to it over the years, and can't bother to change.

I keep reading about all these horrible things that happen with Outlook, but a good firewall seems to do the job. (Touch wood.)
3426) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 888894)
Posted 27 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another beautiful day here, but very windy. Want to open the windows to cool the house, but then my office at home blows away. Maybe it's nature's way of telling me its time to clean the desk...

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 3:00 PM EDT Monday 27 April 2009
Condition: Partly Cloudy
Pressure: 102.1 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 25.0°C (77 F)
Dewpoint: 13.6°C
Humidity: 49 %
Wind: SSW 32 gust 55 km/h (34 mph)
Humidex: 28

Hey Bill, maybe nature is telling you to go out and enjoy the weather?


Well, I could do that, but then who do I bill?
3427) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 888891)
Posted 27 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Seems that wins don't last long nowadays.

indeed.


What he said.
3428) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 888858)
Posted 27 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another beautiful day here, but very windy. Want to open the windows to cool the house, but then my office at home blows away. Maybe it's nature's way of telling me its time to clean the desk...

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 3:00 PM EDT Monday 27 April 2009
Condition: Partly Cloudy
Pressure: 102.1 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 25.0°C (77 F)
Dewpoint: 13.6°C
Humidity: 49 %
Wind: SSW 32 gust 55 km/h (34 mph)
Humidex: 28
3429) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 888856)
Posted 27 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My win.
3430) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 888748)
Posted 27 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning on a beautiful Monday morning. How often do you get to say that?

Please read my post over on the Technical News forum, http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=53137&nowrap=true#888746. Maybe we can turn around the recent decline in SETI users by a little word-of-mouth.
3431) Message boards : Technical News : Hannah (Apr 16 2009) (Message 888746)
Posted 27 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks for the numbers Ned. Us engineers thrive on that sort of stuff.

Looking at the numbers you provided, I now think it is possible that discussions on these forums, and users knowledge of trends in published SETI data, could have resulted in a significant portion of the drop in users discussed above. This gives me an idea.

I'm sure I can't help the SETI guys with the physics and math of what they are doing (given how hard it was for me to barely pass these subjects at an undergraduate level, nearly 40 years ago). So, what can I do, I asked myself.

If these forums do have a big effect on user atittudes, lets try using this power for good, instead of bitching about how SETI admins never listen to my ideas, or how many credits I get for what.

I challenge each of the 40,000 or so readers of the forums to sign up one new user. Just one each. That means reaching outside of the SETI forum community, to other forums and face-to-face, and telling people why we do SETI. We must all have reasons to do SETI, that's why we are still here. Don't post here and get all righteous about Why I'm Sticking To SETI - go tell somebody else.

Spread the word, brothers and sisters! Testify!
3432) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car Racing 2009 (Message 888629)
Posted 26 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not to be disparaging of F1 racing, but in no way can they be considered as cars
NASCAR is much closer to being considered as "cars". Just an opinion.


Cars that only turn left? How real is that?

KERS is basically hybrid technology, which is very real for street cars today. Plastic bodies, carbon brakes, electronic valves, underbody aerodynamics, are all features from Formula 1 that are driving around the streets today. Unless you insist on buying Detroit Dinosaurs, of course.

If you want real cars, go down to your local dirt oval and watch the real stock cars. Now that is fun.

Just another opinion ;).
3433) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 888623)
Posted 26 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning while defrosting the secondary refrigerator.

(The primary one is newer and "frostless".)

That must have been one really old refrigerator to not be frost free, Of course I don't know where in the world You hail from, So I guess anything is possible. But enjoy the new refrigerator, It should use less electricity than the old one did. :)
It's a long story. Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin. The old (small) refrigerator is in the (small) kitchen. Some years ago we were about to upgrade it, when we were /given/ a top of the line refrigerator freezer - which is way too big for this kitchen so lives in the garage which is a separate outbuilding. The kitchen 'fridge' thus remains as a staging post/cache because we are too lazy to keep trekking out to the primary one more than about once per main meal. We have looked at replacing the kitchen one, but have not found what we want yet. They are all either too small or too big, or (in our price range) no better than what we have.


first, in for a win.

Secondly, old fridges can be real energy hogs. Our local energy board will actually pick up fridges built before a certain date for free, and then credit your power bill with $20.
3434) Message boards : Number crunching : First CUDA, now OpenCL! (Message 888620)
Posted 26 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I know it's a wild fantasy, but it would be really nice.

Depends if when you turn on your speakers you hear the screeching of the work being processed.


For the true cruncher, that would be a plus.
3435) Message boards : Technical News : Hannah (Apr 16 2009) (Message 888614)
Posted 26 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Paul, thanks for the response. Skype is beyond my little mind at the moment, so please try a private message. I would love to discuss the human interface issues of this topic with somebody who has really worked on it.

My message was shorter than I wanted, since the BBQ was hot and the wine had to be opened. (It's all about priorities.) Another thought, as a long time human factors test guy: this decline in SETI users, in relation to many of the events others discussed in this thread, could be very valid data for somebody, somewhere. "They" may not want to correct it until this phase of some bigger project is completed. Or, it may be so far down on their to-do-list that "They" haven't even noticed it yet.

Hope those last thoughts doesn't offend any of my fellow lab rats.
3436) Message boards : Technical News : Hannah (Apr 16 2009) (Message 888587)
Posted 26 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just discovered this very interesting thread, and will try to offer my few cents worth as a professional lab rat (test engineer) for over 35 years.

I think we are getting a very skewed view of the "big picture" on these forums. Maybe somebody can repeat the statistic, but I seem to recall somebody recently saying that only a few thousand of the 100,000+ SETI users take part in the forums. This means perhaps a few % of SETI crunchers are even aware of some of the forum related reasons other posters put forward for the drop in membership (alleged indifference by "Them", Matt's charming and utterly human posts, etc.).

By extension, I suspect this means that a similar small percentage, maybe 10% at most, are aware of the performance issues discussed (long AP completion times, CUDA effects, etc.).

My first order approximation is that there has to be something else causing the observed 30% drop in membership. Something not caused by reading the Forums, or detailed tracking of project stats - since the vast majority apparently do neither.

Anything involving 100,000+ people will not be simple, so I suggest we are looking for several reasons. The economy, as others have mentioned, is probably one. The need for current gratification may be another. Long AP completion times and better credit from some of the shadier BOINC projects fall into this category. I guess (hope?) I'm not typical. I saw my RAC drop and my pending climb when I tried to start using optimized AP 5.03 and though "well, this is interesting". I stuck around, worked a bit to correct my setup, and saw things turn around. Again, I said "that's interesting" and keep observing.

Last observation: someone else mentioned the "human/system interface" aspect of the grand BOINC experiment. What we have here people is a great opportunity to work on this aspect. People who don't read the forums and may not understand the subtle aspects of the number crunching appear to be leaving SETI, but not other BOINC projects. Why? How do we correct this?

Is there anybody in academia who focused on this aspect of BOINC? Should we be talking to them, or will it screw things up if the lab rats suddenly become aware?
3437) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 888478)
Posted 26 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It really feels like spring here, even a forecast of another shower this afternoon. for now, I'm loving the nice temperatures. I'll probably be mowing the lawn in a week or two.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 10:00 AM EDT Sunday 26 April 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 102.3 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 16 km

Temperature: 17.6°C (64 F)
Dewpoint: 16.0°C
Humidity: 90 %
Wind: SE 18 km/h
3438) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 888476)
Posted 26 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Morning all, from a sunny and beautiful SW Ontario. Just in for a quick win, then off to teach my daughter all about wet & dry sandpaper, rubbing compounds and polishing. She had a close encounter of the unplanned kind, between her new car and a dumpster :).
3439) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 888368)
Posted 25 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL.

***Pittsburgh only gets 56-59 sunny days a year.

Arizona (as a whole) averages about 350 VFR flying days a year.


Hi Mike! Nice to know that tidbit, but now you're just rubbing it in, aren't ya? Be safe up there.

Yeah, just kidding with ya. Someday, I may be able to get out there to Pennsic War (SCA event), held just a bit northeast of you. Who knows? We may get the chance to meet in person.


That would be nice. Refresh my memory, VFR = Visual Flight Rules?


Correct. Not to be confused with IFR (I Follow Railroads).

Gorgeous day here, with the first thunderstorm of the year expected later on.


Thanks Bill. IFR (I Follow Railroads). It seems that would work, no? lol

And IFR is Instrument Flight Rules, I think.

PENGUINS WIN QUARTER FINALS AGAINST FLYERS, 4-2 SERIES.

Pittsburgh, Allegheny County Airport
Lat: 40.36 Lon: -79.94 Elev: 1248
Last Update on Apr 25, 5:53 pm EDT

85 °F(29 °C)
Humidity: 26 %
Wind Speed: W 16 G 24 MPH
Barometer: 30.15" (1020.6 mb)
Dewpoint: 46 °F (8 °C)
Heat Index: 82 °F (28 °C)
Visibility: 10.00 mi.


Like the local TV guy said, Pengs in 6.

Just had a truly memorable thunder storm, temperature dropped from 27C to 16C in about 10 minutes. Traffic lights out, streets flooding, reports of heavy hail just west of here. Gotta love the spring.
3440) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 888366)
Posted 25 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning the Formula 1 one way!!


you mean you just threw bags of money at it?

Now I'm winning, on the cheap.
3441) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 888320)
Posted 25 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL.

Pittsburgh, Allegheny County Airport
Lat: 40.36 Lon: -79.94 Elev: 1248
Last Update on Apr 24, 5:53 pm EDT

Clear and Sunny

84 °F(29 °C)
Humidity: 24 %
Wind Speed: SW 21 G 31 MPH
Barometer: 30.06" (1017.8 mb)
Dewpoint: 43 °F (6 °C)
Heat Index: 81 °F (27 °C)
Visibility: 10.00 mi.

***Pittsburgh only gets 56-59 sunny days a year.

Arizona (as a whole) averages about 350 VFR flying days a year.


Hi Mike! Nice to know that tidbit, but now you're just rubbing it in, aren't ya? Be safe up there.

Yeah, just kidding with ya. Someday, I may be able to get out there to Pennsic War (SCA event), held just a bit northeast of you. Who knows? We may get the chance to meet in person.


That would be nice. Refresh my memory, VFR = Visual Flight Rules?


Correct. Not to be confused with IFR (I Follow Railroads).

Gorgeous day here, with the first thunderstorm of the year expected later on.
3442) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car Racing 2009 (Message 888319)
Posted 25 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Juan Pablo Montoya takes P1 at Talladega with a speed of 188.171 mph around the 2.66 mile superspeedway. Montoya is followed by Biffle, Truex, Hornish, and Bowyer rounding out the top five.

Complete Starting Lineup



Gee, I'm glad to see Montoya managed to find a job after he couldn't cut it in F1.

Just windin' ya up ;).
3443) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it real or is it Memorix? (Message 888317)
Posted 25 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In my youth, we would have called this a "Bucket T", as they used to be based on Ford Model Ts with the fenders removed, leaving only the bucket (get it?). Nowadays it could be a kit car as well.
3444) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stupid Laws part #2 (Message 888251)
Posted 25 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In fire-sensitive Chicago, it is against the law to eat in an establishment that is on fire.

Ridiculous that it had to be made into law. Would you stay eating in a restaurant that was on fire? I certainly would not.


Well someone must have stayed while the fire was raging LOL


You gotta wonder if the people that stayed were the Fire Department. ;)

Only if They were eating 5 alarm chili.


Or eating the meals that the escaping customers left on the table...



That may be what led to the law in the first place...
3445) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 888250)
Posted 25 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sunny here no clouds 21°C 70F.



Same here. Wonderful weather. Will have BBQ in a few hours. Yummmi!!!!


Yep, that's my plan too. BBQ this evening to celebrate my win. Or maybe to console myself when I lose. Either way, life is good.
3446) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 888100)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I win


Nope.
3447) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stupid Laws part #2 (Message 888029)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Alaska:
It is illegal to push a live moose out of a moving airplane.


But what about a hovering helicopter?

Sorry, hanging out too much with lawyers.
3448) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 888026)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just back from a trip to what Led Zep called The Land of Ice and Snow, and the locals call le Grand Nord. Up to my armpits in snow the first few days, then it warmed up and I was up to my armpits in mud.

Everything got amazingly green here at home while I was away. Looks like BBQ weather this weekend.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 4:00 PM EDT Friday 24 April 2009
Condition: Mostly Cloudy
Pressure: 101.2 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 22.6°C (73 F)
Dewpoint: 12.4°C
Humidity: 52 %
Wind: SSW 26 gust 41 km/h
Humidex: 25
3449) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 888020)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning after returning from a road trip with very spotty Internet connections.

So, what did I miss in the last week?
3450) Message boards : Number crunching : Thank you to the admins (Message 886427)
Posted 19 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I have to add my thanks. I'm impressed that this got fixed on a weekend.
3451) Message boards : Cafe SETI : THE Joke Thread . . . Part Deux (Message 886378)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Q
Do you know why italians are so small.
A
Father told them if you grow up you have to work.

no offense meant.


Q: Why do Germans drive so fast on the Autobahn?

A: They drink all that beer, and the toilets are very far apart.

No offence meant (Keine Handlung bedeutet) ;)
3452) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption IX..... (Message 886374)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Anybody else remember that cartoon?

Warner Bros if I remember correctly.


Yes, Warner Brothers - Bugs Bunny, of course...

[to the tune "Mexican Hat Dance"]

bull (with hooves): da da da dada da DUM

bugs (with glove): slap slap... etc.


That's the one!
3453) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 886371)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for the win, after getting back from the local spring home show. So many window sales people in one small place,it was scary.
3454) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption IX..... (Message 886165)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


That's the last time I use the Acme Horn Sharpener.

Anybody else remember that cartoon?
3455) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 886164)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Are you in New Brunswick by any chance Labbie? I'm heading there on Monday on a business trip, I may still have time to cancel it ;).

Oh, and a very nice day today here. Too bad I was chained to a keyboard all day.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 9:00 PM EDT Friday 17 April 2009
Condition: Partly Cloudy
Pressure: 102.3 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 13.8°C
Dewpoint: -2.5°C
Humidity: 32 %
Wind: SW 8 km/h
3456) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 886160)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I win!

Who is that?


Me, winning.
3457) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 885982)
Posted 17 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning the H&R Block way!

Haven't used them ever.

Nope, Can't say I've used the Block Heads. ;)


Many years ago, during a slump in my industry-of-the-moment, I looked into working for these guys. At the time, they gave you 2 whole days of training before allowing you to ruin peoples lives. Never went near them again.

So, do I win, or what?
3458) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 885940)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Back again after filling out Financial Aid forms for CSU East Bay.


Sounds complicated TL4.


Not complicated, just a lot of additional paperwork.


Yes, my tax form could be called "just a bit of additional paperwork". It was about an edge inch.

I only have one 1040(actually two), But their on My Car and they are Free of taxes. :D


I don't know if you have this option in the US, but I've been using commercial software from Quicktax to do my taxes for several years now, and I love it. There is a version geared for self-employed non-incorporated (that's me), which covers everything, does all the math, and sends a file direct to the gov'ment boys. The first few years I did it all the long way, and the digital way, and the digital always saved me more than the cost of the software. Now I only spot check.
3459) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 885863)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
CONGRATS, Gary. My turn to hold the top position for a while.



But not for long.


I'm back!!! :-)



You're gone!!!! ;)
3460) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 885856)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
CONGRATS, Gary. My turn to hold the top position for a while.



But not for long.
3461) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 9 (Message 885823)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Received a call from a local television news department today...possible interview pending.


Go get 'em Blurf! The airlines are cutting corners everywhere, and on everything, these days, and we have to call them on it.

I have travelled a lot on business for the last 35 years, and the airline trip has gone from being the best part of an out of town trip to far and away the worst part.

There is still some choice left. I never get the chance to use United much, but I now intend to keep it that way. Northwest has been good to me, but they have just been bought by Delta, who have been on my personal "don't fly on them" list for years. Here in Canada, Westjet still thinks passengers are human, unlike Air Canada.

Spread the word brothers and sisters! To the barricades! If the ba***rds want our money, they will have to earn it!

I feel much better now.
3462) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 885816)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
[quote]The weather is only fair. But it was a great night for hockey in Pittsburgh!
Philadelphia Flyers (44-27) @ Pittsburgh Penguins (45-28)
Phi - 1
Pit - 4



For what it is worth, out local TV sports guy says Penguins in 6 for this series.


It's worth alot. It's always nice to get non-fan, unbiased in-put, especially when it's favorable. Thanks Bill. :o)



I won't ruin your day with his predictions for the next round.

Turning into the nicest day of the year here, forecast to go up to 19C (66F) before we are through.
3463) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 885813)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
winning at work


Same here...

Is there a different look to the forums? Seems like some of the text has gotten smaller, and a different look to the buttons...


Mine looks the same. Did you just get new glasses? 8-)
3464) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 885782)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The weather is only fair. But it was a great night for hockey in Pittsburgh!
Philadelphia Flyers (44-27) @ Pittsburgh Penguins (45-28)
Phi - 1
Pit - 4



For what it is worth, out local TV sports guy says Penguins in 6 for this series.

Start of another nice day here, feels like Spring is really here.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EDT Thursday 16 April 2009
Condition: Sunny
Pressure: 103.0 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 2.7°C
Dewpoint: -3.1°C
Humidity: 66 %
Wind: calm
3465) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 885781)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Monring/afternoon/evening all, just bumping up the post count. Or maybe winning.
3466) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #84 (Message 885678)
Posted 15 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, but the winner of the previous thread is not allowed to win this thread as only that person knows the magic number.

I predict the next number will be:






666 :o ;)

Having a bit of trouble with your crystal ball?

Nah, You just have to look at the page some more in the right way and clearly You aren't doing that. :D


That's a beast of a number to choose.

So. Do I win yet?

Oh, and congrats to Gary.
3467) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 885581)
Posted 15 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The glorious workers arise, overthrow their chains of oppression, and claim the win!


Ni!!


You should see all the lupins around here.


Hand over those lupins! I need them to win!

In a bunch, in a bunch....
3468) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption IX..... (Message 885532)
Posted 15 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


What was in that last frog I ate?
3469) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 885531)
Posted 15 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Rained yesterday, but today is looking better.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EDT Wednesday 15 April 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 101.8 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 6.0°C (43 F)
Dewpoint: -6.8°C
Humidity: 39 %
Wind: ENE 28 gust 37 km/h
3470) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 885530)
Posted 15 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The glorious workers arise, overthrow their chains of oppression, and claim the win!
3471) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 885370)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Polo!
3472) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 885288)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My morning win.
3473) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 885192)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for a quick win, then off to watch the last ever episode of Corner Gas.
3474) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 885067)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
1185, I feel lucky!
3475) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (14) Server problems (Message 885063)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Maybe this is just a coincidence, but since switching to BOINC 6.6.20 I've gone from usually having one or two APs waiting, as well as one running, to now having one AP 84% complete, zero waiting, and getting this when I update SETI:

13/04/2009 11:18:15 AM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
13/04/2009 11:18:15 AM SETI@home Not reporting or requesting tasks
13/04/2009 11:18:21 AM SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

Is this the SETI servers, or BOINC, or what? I'm running Rosetta and WCG on the same computer, with no big change in their amount of work.


Cancel the panic, BOINC decided to download 3 APs after my last finished:

13/04/2009 3:40:19 PM SETI@home Started upload of ap_26fe09ab_B0_P0_00137_20090409_17510.wu_2_0
13/04/2009 3:40:24 PM SETI@home Finished upload of ap_26fe09ab_B0_P0_00137_20090409_17510.wu_2_0
13/04/2009 3:40:34 PM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
13/04/2009 3:40:34 PM SETI@home Reporting 1 completed tasks, requesting new tasks

3476) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 884976)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sort of a day off for me, nice now but a chance of rain later on today or Tuesday.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 12:00 PM EDT Monday 13 April 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 102.2 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 4.8°C
Dewpoint: -9.1°C
Humidity: 36 %
Wind: E 28 km/h
3477) Message boards : Cafe SETI : THE Joke Thread . . . Part Deux (Message 884946)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
RULES OF THE AIRWAYS

Takeoff's are optional. Landings are mandatory.

Flying is not dangerous; crashing is dangerous.

Speed is life, altitude is life insurance. No one has ever collided with the sky.

The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.

Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man. Landing is the first!

Everyone knows a 'good' landing is one from which you can walk away. But a 'great landing is one after which you can use the airplane again.

The probability of survival is equal to the angle of arrival.

Was that a landing or were we shot down?

Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make all of them yourself.

Trust your captain.... but keep your seat belt securely fastened.

Be nice to your first officer, he may be your captain at your next airline.

Any attempt to stretch fuel is guaranteed to increase headwind.

A pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.

Try to keep the number of your landings equal to the number of your takeoffs.

There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there are no old, bold, pilots!

Gravity never loses! The best you can hope for is a draw!

Gravity SUCKS!!

Some of the most useless things to a pilot:
1. The runway behind you
2. The fuel you've burned
3. The sky above you
4. The Approach plates (you forgot) in your car

[feel free to add to the list, pilots]


No. 2 is also seen as "the fuel in the truck back on the ramp". And don't forget number 5, "the speed above the little pointer on the ASI". Here are some others that got me this far:

It's better to be down here wishing you were up there, than to be up there wishing you were down here.

Never let an airplane take you somewhere your brain didn't get to five minutes earlier.

Two statements from your pilot that are good reasons to eject: "eject eject eject" and "hey, watch this". (another version of this, from a preflight briefing by an ex-military pilot: "If I say eject eject eject, and you ask why, you will be talking to yourself".)

Forget all that stuff about thrust and drag, lift and gravity; an airplane flies because of money.

And some more from my first flight instructor, my father:

I don't care how good the heater and the air conditioner are, you always dress like you are going to walk home.

There are 27 instruments in front of you, but the only one you can trust is the clock.
3478) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (14) Server problems (Message 884943)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Maybe this is just a coincidence, but since switching to BOINC 6.6.20 I've gone from usually having one or two APs waiting, as well as one running, to now having one AP 84% complete, zero waiting, and getting this when I update SETI:

13/04/2009 11:18:15 AM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
13/04/2009 11:18:15 AM SETI@home Not reporting or requesting tasks
13/04/2009 11:18:21 AM SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

Is this the SETI servers, or BOINC, or what? I'm running Rosetta and WCG on the same computer, with no big change in their amount of work.
3479) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mark your calendar for the Seti 10th Anniversary Party (Message 884912)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'll be in Jasper that day, but I'll be thinking of you. You are all hereby authorized to party on my behalf.
3480) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 884911)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Morning all, do I win?
3481) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 884562)
Posted 12 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A quick Happy Easter to everyone, then I have to go. My wife just put our easter eggs in the frying pan.
3482) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 884269)
Posted 11 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Start of another beautiful day here. Looks like the nasty stuff passed south of here during the night.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 10:00 AM EDT Saturday 11 April 2009
Condition: Mainly Sunny
Pressure: 102.2 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 3.9°C
Dewpoint: -6.4°C
Humidity: 47 %
Wind: ENE 22 km/h
3483) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 884268)
Posted 11 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good morning North America, good afternoon Europe. Winning on a lazy long weekend Saturday.
3484) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 884032)
Posted 10 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Standings

007 Member ID is 00046930, John Galt 007----------------- 23:49:32 ___ 45 posts with average 31.77 minutes, 2 day increase 02.37h.
008 Member ID is 08477106, Bill Walker------------------- 17:03:35 ___ 48 posts with average 21.32 minutes, 2 day increase 01.33h.


OK Richard, educate me. Why am I 008, when a guy with less posts is 007? Not complaining mind you, just that it would be way cooler to be 007.


It's because John Galt 007 has more minutes per post than you. He has 31.77 minutes per post average and you have 21.32 minutes per post average.

I have 42.95 minutes per post average.

"004 Member ID is 08363397, TimeLord04-------------------- 41:31:35 ___ 58 posts with average 42.95 minutes, 2 day increase"



OK, next question. Still not complaining, just curious. What is the time per post based on? Am I being penalized because I type fast, or because my readers read fast? ;)

And no John, I don't want to be like you. I want be like Sean Connery, when he was young, thin, and still had his real hair.
3485) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 883996)
Posted 10 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A lovely day here, but wind switching to the east means it could all change soon.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 2:00 PM EDT Friday 10 April 2009
Condition: Mainly Sunny
Pressure: 101.5 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 11.8°C (53 F)
Dewpoint: -1.4°C
Humidity: 40 %
Wind: NE 15 gust 28 km/h
3486) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption IX..... (Message 883993)
Posted 10 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:




Yeah, sounds like the water pump again.
3487) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 883992)
Posted 10 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Standings

007 Member ID is 00046930, John Galt 007----------------- 23:49:32 ___ 45 posts with average 31.77 minutes, 2 day increase 02.37h.
008 Member ID is 08477106, Bill Walker------------------- 17:03:35 ___ 48 posts with average 21.32 minutes, 2 day increase 01.33h.


OK Richard, educate me. Why am I 008, when a guy with less posts is 007? Not complaining mind you, just that it would be way cooler to be 007.
3488) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 883814)
Posted 10 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for a quick win before a 4 day weekend.
3489) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 883813)
Posted 10 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for a quick win before a 4 day weekend.
3490) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 883722)
Posted 9 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for a Canadian win, eh.
3491) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 883679)
Posted 9 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


@ Andy: where I live, in early April, 14C is pretty terrific. :)


It's all relative. Where I live, it wouldn't be that unusual to see 14C in the middle of Winter.


And where I live 14C in early April appears to be totally impossible. Nice sunny morning, but a little chilly.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EDT Thursday 9 April 2009
Condition: Sunny
Pressure: 100.9 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -0.8°C
Dewpoint: -5.3°C
Humidity: 72 %
Wind: WSW 4 km/h
Wind Chill: -2

Just to put it all in perspective, my daughter's friend is doing a tour at CFS Alert on Ellesmere Island right now, here is their weather today:

Observed at: Alert Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EDT Thursday 9 April 2009
Condition: Partly Cloudy
Pressure: 102.0 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -34.2°C (-30 F)
Dewpoint: -38.2°C
Humidity: 67 %
Wind: N 8 km/h
Wind Chill: -43
3492) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 883672)
Posted 9 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good morning North America, good afternoon Europe, and Lord knows what to the rest of you.

I win. However briefly. I still win. Me. You can never take that away from me. Well, not until the next post anyway.
3493) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 883485)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Only 9C this morning
Humidity 71%
Wind: SE 34 km/h
Barometer: 1008 mb steady

Cloudy and burrrr.


You left coast types are such weather wimps. We DREAM of 9C this time of year.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 3:00 PM EDT Wednesday 8 April 2009
Condition: Partly Cloudy
Pressure: 100.2 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 8.0°C
Dewpoint: -6.7°C
Humidity: 35 %
Wind: WNW 28 gust 37 km/h
3494) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 883482)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

At this time of year, 1" of snow will be gone by noon...you don't have to bother shoveling...I haven't had to blow snow for about a month now...I think I can put it away, finally...


Don't put it away yet! That just upsets the snow gods, and then you are REALLY in trouble. I leave mine gassed and ready to go until at least early June.

My wife says that's because I'm a lazy slob, but I'm just being careful....

Oh yeah, and I win.
3495) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 883365)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
winning after work.

Or not.


Or you...

Did I say I was?


Nope...jus' sayin'...


You're all wrong - I win.
3496) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 883345)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Looks like the snow might melt today, and we can get back to spring.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EDT Wednesday 8 April 2009
Condition: Mostly Cloudy
Pressure: 100.2 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 16 km

Temperature: -1.8°C
Dewpoint: -4.7°C
Humidity: 81 %
Wind: W 13 km/h
Wind Chill: -6
3497) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 883344)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Rake the fall leaves? By next week?


no, around here most (90%+)people rake in spring to remove dead grass, snow mold, and the "lift" the grass up so that grass can get some air. Under the snow the grass gets all matted down. Course we get more snow than most also.

Spring Raking


Never heard of practice.


Gotta do it here in the Great white North as well, or else you get a very patchy lawn later in the year. My lawn was almost dry enough to start, when we got an inch of snow.

And by the way, I win.
3498) Message boards : Cafe SETI : THE Joke Thread . . . Part Deux (Message 883061)
Posted 7 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


What do you call A cow with no legs?? GROUND BEEF!


What do you call a cow with 2 legs?

LEAN BEEF!
3499) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 883060)
Posted 7 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
More snow today. Had to scrape the car and shovel off the front step this morning. In April!

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 9:00 AM EDT Tuesday 7 April 2009
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 100.0 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 8 km

Temperature: -3.2°C
Dewpoint: -6.9°C
Humidity: 76 %
Wind: NW 22 gust 41 km/h
Wind Chill: -9
3500) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 883059)
Posted 7 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Again, two posts off of one button push. Why is this happening to me?
3501) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 883058)
Posted 7 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning on my mid-morning break.
3502) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 883057)
Posted 7 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning on my mid-morning break.
3503) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stupid Laws part #2 (Message 882955)
Posted 7 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In Denver, I break the law every week...

It's against the law to drive a black car on Sunday.

Shhhhhhhh...


I have read also that it is against the law in Colorado to collect rainwater for use!?

True or not?


I wouldn't have believed it, but I guess...

But according to the state of Colorado, the rain that falls on Holstrom's property is not hers to keep. It should be allowed to fall to the ground and flow unimpeded into surrounding creeks and streams, the law states, to become the property of farmers, ranchers, developers and water agencies that have bought the rights to those waterways



In the west in general the water on your land is not yours.


In many parts of Canada, the stuff under the ground (oil, coal, etc.) may or may not be yours. In some areas, at some times, the rights to these have been bought and sold seperately from the surface. You may or may not know this when you buy a piece of land, including city lots. Some people have recently found this out when the drill rig parked on their lawn. All quite legal, just a little surprising.
3504) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 882951)
Posted 7 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Lots of wind and snow! We have about 3 inches of snow now and expecting over a foot in next 2 1/2 days. Someone send some sunshine to Erie, PA


With the wind out of the north we barely got an inch over on this side of the lake.

Not that I'm laughing at you. I'm laughing with you.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 9:00 PM EDT Monday 6 April 2009
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 100.0 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 5 km

Temperature: -1.8°C
Dewpoint: -4.7°C
Humidity: 81 %
Wind: NNW 30 gust 45 km/h
Wind Chill: -9
3505) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 882801)
Posted 6 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Snow is whipping in from the north now, horizontally. Fortunately, the ground is warm enough that it isn't building up much. Yet.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 2:00 PM EDT Monday 6 April 2009
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 99.6 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 5 km

Temperature: 1.0°C
Dewpoint: -1.4°C
Humidity: 84 %
Wind: NNW 32 gust 46 km/h
3506) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 882751)
Posted 6 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Snow mixed in with the rain now. Here we go again.
3507) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 882715)
Posted 6 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A bit of a break here this morning, too warm for snow so we just got piles and piles of rain over night. Could get cooler later in the day though. Nice north wind, so lake effect from Lake Erie goes over to the US side for now. Now we just have to watch for flurries off Lake Huron or Georgian Bay here.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EDT Monday 6 April 2009
Condition: Light Rainshower
Pressure: 99.4 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 1.9°C
Dewpoint: 0.0°C
Humidity: 87 %
Wind: N 21 gust 32 km/h
3508) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 882713)
Posted 6 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning from a wet and dreary Ontario. Boy, does it ever feel like Monday here.
3509) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 882588)
Posted 5 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A nice spring day right now, but calling for snow tomorrow.

Terri O, I feel your pain. Just a little shift in the wind direction and your lake effect becomes our lake effect.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 3:00 PM EDT Sunday 5 April 2009
Condition: Mainly Sunny
Pressure: 101.1 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 10.3°C (51 F)
Dewpoint: -1.5°C
Humidity: 44 %
Wind: E 5 km/h
3510) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 882545)
Posted 5 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for a quick win on a beautiful Sunday afternoon. They just opened the gates at a nearby nature preserve, Sifton Bog, so I'm off to put on my hiking shoes on and then off in to the great outdoors. Snow tomorrow, so I have to take advantage of the weather today.

Hey, I just noticed they put a new aerial photo of the Bog on their web page, http://www.thamesriver.on.ca/Wetlands_and_Natural_Areas/sifton.htm, and my house in is the upper left hand corner. Can you see me waving?
3511) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moon Hoax Theory (Message 882543)
Posted 5 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Last weekend On cable channel AMC aired the 1970's movie

Capricorn One! After watching this movie is makes one question what read as well as what we watch on Tv.

Capricorn One



Yes, and after watching Raiders of the Last Ark and Catch 22 I had to question everything I had learned about the Second World War. Briefly.

It's fiction guys. Moderately entertaining, but not something to base your life philosophy on.
3512) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 882148)
Posted 4 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning then off to bed. See you all in the moring. Or maybe in the early afternoon. It is the weekend.
3513) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 882042)
Posted 3 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Its cold. Its windy. Its raining. Its going to snow by Monday. It sucks.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 3:00 PM EDT Friday 3 April 2009
Condition: Light Rain
Pressure: 98.6 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 5 km

Temperature: 4.4°C (40F)
Dewpoint: 3.5°C
Humidity: 94 %
Wind: WNW 33 km/h
3514) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 882040)
Posted 3 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning.
3515) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 881764)
Posted 2 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Posting after having watched the series finale of Life on Mars on NBC. Good show, it ended way too soon.

Goodnight everyone.



I need to update this last post but since it is way past the hour mark, I'm correcting it by quoting myself...

Life on Mars was on ABC not NBC.



Posting for a win, during a quick break from some very tedious spreadsheeting.

Of course, the big event of the TV season up here is on April 13: last episode EVER of Corner Gas. http://www.cornergas.com/
3516) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 881668)
Posted 2 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Looks like Pittsburg is ahead of us this time. Not supposed to get that warm until tomorrow. Still not too bad right now.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 10:00 AM EDT Thursday 2 April 2009
Condition: Mainly Sunny
Pressure: 101.4 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 10.5°C (51F)
Dewpoint: 1.1°C
Humidity: 52 %
Wind: S 24 km/h
3517) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 881664)
Posted 2 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Morning back at you John, and everybody else.

Has anybody seen any sign of the April 1st virus?
3518) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 881356)
Posted 1 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Turning into a nice day here, but a little windy. Must dig out my kites.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 2:00 PM EDT Wednesday 1 April 2009
Condition: Partly Cloudy
Pressure: 100.8 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 10.9°C (52 F)
Dewpoint: -0.4°C
Humidity: 46 %
Wind: SSW 37 gust 48 km/h
3519) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 881262)
Posted 1 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good morning all, from a wet but warm Ontario.
3520) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 881093)
Posted 1 Apr 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

I wonder if it was like some of my moves. Plug in the computer first, then worry about the other things like dishes and clothes...


Yeah, my wife and kids look at me funny when I do that. But we know what's important, don't we?
3521) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 880748)
Posted 30 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Morning all, from a snowy south west Ontario.
3522) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 880747)
Posted 30 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Erie, Pa

Woke up this morning to see SNOW on the ground!!!!!!!!!!


Snow on the ground over on the other side of the lake as well. What a revoltin' development.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:22 AM EDT Monday 30 March 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 100.8 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -1.2°C
Dewpoint: -4.4°C
Humidity: 79 %
Wind: WNW 22 gust 33 km/h
Wind Chill: -7
3523) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 880490)
Posted 29 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
winning after watching the australian formula one grand prix (recorded)


don't tell me anything! The recorded one here starts in a few hours.

Also, winning.
3524) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption IX..... (Message 880420)
Posted 29 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:



Did you turn the tap off?

No, I thought YOU turned the tap off.
3525) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 880418)
Posted 29 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning before breakfast. good morning/afternoon Mike, and everybody else.
3526) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 880298)
Posted 29 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why use clutches? Just use a couple of electric motors. One in the drive train, and one on the flywheel.


Oh yeah, hadn't thought of that. Much easier.

Plus, I win.
3527) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 880260)
Posted 29 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes it was John and very close.
The good thing is the small teams have a chance now.
Ten cars between one second.
The new kers sytem is interesting to see in the future.
It charges energy from the brakes in batteries and the driver can push a button to get 80 more horse powers for 6 seconds each round.

Sad is only four teams using it right now.


I think I read somewhere that one team uses a flywheel for their KERS. Must be interesting set of clutches and controllers.
3528) Message boards : Number crunching : **SETI MB OUTAGE-4/3/09**-CLOSED (Message 880252)
Posted 29 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My fast machine is getting one or two Astropulse WUS a day, and my slow machine gets the same number of MB. They both have to try several times to get them, though. so far, haven't run out (fingers crossed).
3529) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 880063)
Posted 28 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The day started nice, but clouds are moving in and rain is forecast, with thunderstorms tomorrow. Just as well, I'm tied to a keyboard all weekend.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 10:00 AM EDT Saturday 28 March 2009
Condition: Mainly Sunny
Pressure: 101.4 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 4.8°C
Dewpoint: 0.2°C
Humidity: 72 %
Wind: NE 11 km/h
3530) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 880062)
Posted 28 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning on a cool cloudy Saturday.
3531) Message boards : Number crunching : Please Help to speed things up processing (Message 880058)
Posted 28 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think you should be happy with that,i was getting i think abouy 200credit per day with a dualcore pentium 1.86 toshiba laptop,doing 2 units at once ,noticed is quicker minimized not having to display the fancy graphics frees up resources.

I;m taking 120 hours to do ap WorkUnits,1 at a time,says its 100 hours work to do but takes longer.If you are getting 100 hour units done in half that time ,you are doing quite well.


Glen, you should seriously consider using the optimized astropulse executables. My Toshiba laptop went from 120+ hours per WU to about 22 hours, with the same credit in the end. People on this forum and over at KWSN http://lunatics.kwsn.net/ were very helpful in walking me through the installation process. If you can unzip files, drag them from one folder to another, and edit some simple text in Notepad, you can do it.
3532) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 879907)
Posted 28 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning after listening to The Last Waltz sound track REALLY LOUD.

What's that? Huh? Did you say something?
3533) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 879783)
Posted 27 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A beautiful day here, and a beautiful weekend coming up. Of course, I'll be working (heavy sigh).

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 1:00 PM EDT Friday 27 March 2009
Condition: Partly Cloudy
Pressure: 101.6 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 11.5°C (53F)
Dewpoint: 0.7°C
Humidity: 47 %
Wind: S 24 km/h
3534) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 5 second rule for email....... (Message 879781)
Posted 27 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A breathalyzer controlled computer might though...


Many many years ago, as a grad student, I got to be a subject in the test of a car ignition control system using a breathalyzer. You got to drink school issued booze in carefully measured quantities, blow into a tube, and then perform some cognitive and functioning tests.

The researcher gave up, after he found that several students could pass the tests when they couldn't even walk, and a small but non-zero number of students failed the tests stone cold sober. He never would tell us which category any of us fitted into, but it made for interesting speculation.

A buddy of mine told me he took part in a similar test program in California in the late 1960s, using street drugs plus booze. Again, no meaningful results, but they did discover some combinations that were incredibly fast at making you barf. All over the test equipment.
3535) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 879777)
Posted 27 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OK, I have no idea how I posted the same message twice, 1 second apart. What button do you push to get that?
3536) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 879776)
Posted 27 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for a quick win.
3537) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 879775)
Posted 27 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for a quick win.
3538) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 879242)
Posted 25 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning with ADAM-12 to back me up for another win!

One Adam 12, code 46 in progress at Peco and Sepulveda, some Canadian claiming he's winning, see the manager. All units respond.
3539) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 5 second rule for email....... (Message 879179)
Posted 25 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can they make one of these for when you're talking? I could use it, sometimes.
3540) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 879113)
Posted 25 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
2 days without a post. I guess weather has been cancelled.
3541) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 879092)
Posted 25 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It is going to be a truly beautiful day here on Canada's west coast. We may get rain later today, but for now it is looking good.


Start of a really crappy day in central Canada, already raining and windy.

And by the way .... I win!
3542) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 878992)
Posted 25 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Matt takes the checkered flag for another win!!



... but is disqualified on a technicality.

And Bill pulls into the lead.
3543) Message boards : Number crunching : **SETI MB OUTAGE-4/3/09**-CLOSED (Message 878991)
Posted 25 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Update from Matt:

.. that's why I give it a week if only to keep expectations realistic, yet leave room for potential pleasant surprises.

- Matt


A guiding premise from my days in flight test: plan for the worst, and then all your surprises are pleasant ones.

Got my fingers crossed, will be watching and hoping.
3544) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption IX..... (Message 878947)
Posted 24 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:





Hello from Australia!
3545) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 878826)
Posted 24 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
irwinning


Know ur knot.
3546) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 878812)
Posted 24 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
winning b4 work.


Your English is improving Mike!
3547) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moon Hoax Theory (Message 878741)
Posted 24 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry guys, i do not want to take the fun away, but can you please go back on topic?


I think that the extensive discussion about cheese shows how seriously we take the original topic. Think of it as a statement, rather than a diversion.
3548) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car Racing 2009 (Message 878739)
Posted 24 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think you have to be a little careful, when making comments about McClaren- Mercedes and cheating. They were basically found guilty by a 'kangaroo court', for starters and by accepting 'guilt', saved themselves a fortune - it was the cheapest option. Lets not forget, that this was based on the actions of a few employees of the respective teams; other teams were also found to have information that they should not have had. Renault being one of them, suffered no penalty at all. There is nothing quite like a level circuit, eh? Bending rules is one thing, but on the track, the sort of 'strategies' employed by a certain former F1 WDC, who drove for an Italian team, beggared belief! There again, he'd probably learned a few things from a Brazilian driver and a French driver and became worse than the pair of them put together.

As for me, aside from my almost annual pilgrimage to Silverstone this year (which will probably be my last visit to the British GP) I won't be taking much interest in F1. The almost constant rule changes, have stifled development and increased costs hugely and driven away the fans. Its a bit rich for the idiots in charge of F1 (Barmy Bernie and Mad Max), pushing through changes to make F1 cheaper, when it was their constant rule changes that pushed-up the costs. One year, you have a 3000cc V10 (as was the norm in recent years), the next year it has to be a 2400cc V8 and its not a case of just cutting off 2 cylnders; the only parts you could keep common, would be pistons, rings, liners (if any), valves, water pump (?), hydraulic pump, possibly the con-rods and some bearings - the rest goes in the scrap bin! Thats waste on a massive scale. The reason the Ford-Cosworth engine, was so successful, was due to it being developed over a period of time and virtually being in continual development, as were, in latter years, the Honda and Renault turbo-charged engines. Besides, I'd sooner listen, to a Ferrari V12 howl or the shriek from a Honda turbo, than the demented buzzing from a 2.4l V8!

Sorry for the rant, but the bosses of F1 are, to me, little different to Nero - they've also got their fiddles going and its the sport that is getting burned.




No Canadian GP this year whats up with that?


I understand its all about sponsorship - or the lack thereof. Quebec sports fans are very fickle, and with M. Villeneuve gone, they are gone too. The Big Bucks found something better to spend it on. Speaking of which [off topic] I see the Habs are for sale, asking about $350 million. [/off topic]
3549) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 878738)
Posted 24 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
213, and my profound sympathies to anyone with nasal problems. My allergies should kick in any day now, as it warms up. I find lots of red wine, taken internally, helps a bit.
3550) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 878637)
Posted 23 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Can you brits say a set in normal way.
Its hard stuff for a german dumb ass.


In 4 a win b4 T!

;)


Smashing Andrew, eh what?
3551) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 878624)
Posted 23 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Glorious blue sky, beautiful day, but ... alas, it's still COLD
SPRING, WHERE ARE YOU???



Not here, thats for sure.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 1:00 PM EDT Monday 23 March 2009
Condition: Mainly Sunny
Pressure: 103.4 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 1.0°C
Dewpoint: -13.3°C
Humidity: 33 %
Wind: ENE 9 km/h

3552) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 878600)
Posted 23 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hi, all...

Just dropping in for a bit b4 lunch...


Good morning Bill.
Good afternoon John.

Can you brits say a set in normal way.
Its hard stuff for a german dumb ass.


It is all very easy Mike, he's just trying to say "Top-hole. Bally Jerry, pranged his kite right in the how's-your-father; hairy blighter, dicky-birded, feathered back on his sammy, took a waspy, flipped over on his Betty Harpers and caught his can in the Bertie." And so, Bob's your uncle. Piece of cake, really.

3553) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moon Hoax Theory (Message 878597)
Posted 23 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, but is it as tasty as a nice bit of Wensleydale?

I prefer Cheddar, California or Wisconsin.


Never had California cheddar, but Wisconsin cheddar can't come close to Ontario's finest. It says so right in a government cheese document, so it must be true. Unless the document is a hoax....


3554) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 878595)
Posted 23 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just adding to the post count.
3555) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moon Hoax Theory (Message 878578)
Posted 23 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes, but is it as tasty as a nice bit of Wensleydale?
3556) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 878557)
Posted 23 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We're doing OK here, compared to some parts of Canada. A foot of snow on the east coast, flooding in Manitoba, freakin' cold in northern Alberta. At least we are sunny, with a chance of some warmth later in the week.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EDT Monday 23 March 2009
Condition: Sunny
Pressure: 103.4 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -5.2°C
Dewpoint: -11.5°C
Humidity: 61 %
Wind: ENE 15 km/h
Wind Chill: -11
3557) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moon Hoax Theory (Message 878556)
Posted 23 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
OMG, this means the Japanese are in on the hoax too!
3558) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Car Racing 2009 (Message 878429)
Posted 22 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I want one.
3559) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 878428)
Posted 22 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very nice Joker.
3560) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moon Hoax Theory (Message 878312)
Posted 22 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Why do we waste time on the moon hoax theory, when we should be finding out what they REALLY did with the alien bodies from Roswell?
3561) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 878297)
Posted 22 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just back from a lovely breakfast with the family. My daughter paid! Life is good.
3562) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 878241)
Posted 22 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The maple syrup weather continues here, cold at night but nice during the day.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 5:44 AM EDT Sunday 22 March 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 100.0 kPa
Tendency: steady
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 2.1°C
Dewpoint: -3.4°C
Humidity: 65 %
Wind: calm
3563) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 878240)
Posted 22 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good morning all. Up very early here in SW Ontario, can't sleep.
3564) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moon Hoax Theory (Message 878007)
Posted 21 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My standard reply to those who bring up the moon hoax theory:

If the President of the United States can't have sex in his office and keep it secret for more than a few months, how could anybody keep something of this scale quiet for 30+ years?
3565) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption IX..... (Message 877945)
Posted 21 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:




I know it looks dorky, but my wife made it, so.....
3566) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 877928)
Posted 21 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning after unclogging a drain. What a fun way to spend a weekend.



I wouldn't wish that on anybody!! At times the smell can be too much to handle!


The really depressing part was all the hair I pulled out. So THATS where it went.
3567) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 877922)
Posted 21 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning after unclogging a drain. What a fun way to spend a weekend.
3568) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bat's fate after shuttle launch appears grim (Message 877919)
Posted 21 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
NASA will conduct A Battery of tests to confirm the cause of death.


You're Batting a 1000 Matt!
3569) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 877917)
Posted 21 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A little cloudy on the weekend, but at least no snow!

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 1:00 PM EDT Saturday 21 March 2009
Condition: Mostly Cloudy
Pressure: 103.3 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 4.2°C
Dewpoint: -6.7°C
Humidity: 45 %
Wind: S 8 km/h
3570) Message boards : Technical News : Ngo (Mar 19 2009) (Message 877911)
Posted 21 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Murphy was just an unfortunate American that got his wires crossed! The rest is just superstition.


Actually, Murphy was an American bureaucrat who very deliberately created and promoted his Law to convince people to be more thorough in planning and tracking major military development programs.
3571) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 877624)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Posting after take out Chinese from the local corner place.
3572) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 877529)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
52
3573) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 877527)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
50?
3574) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit trashed since AstroPulse? (Message 877524)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

[Edit] Think of SETI work as short term loans with smaller dividends when paid out, and think of AstroPulse work as long term investments with larger Return On Investments. If you switch over from short term to long term, in the immediate your credit will go down, but in the long run once AP work is paid, you get more for your work.


I'm seeing exactly that. My SETI RAC went down, and pending credit went up, right after turning on ap_v5. The ap_v5 are slowly starting to validate, and my RAC is slowly climbing. Looking at how many wu I complete per day, and points per wu, I expect about a 50% increase in SETI RAC when a new steady state is reached once again. By "steady state" I mean roughly the same number of wu validated per day as I'm crunching per day, which would keep pending RAC constant.

You just need some patience :).
3575) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 877468)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Posting before lunch.
3576) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bat's fate after shuttle launch appears grim (Message 877467)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
AstroBat.
3577) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 877440)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just a light dusting of snow overnight, the sun should burn it off quickly. Come on Spring!

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EDT Friday 20 March 2009
Condition: Sunny
Pressure: 103.2 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -6.4°C
Dewpoint: -11.4°C
Humidity: 68 %
Wind: N 8 km/h
Wind Chill: -10
3578) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 877438)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ooooh, I made the top ten in the stats! Too early to win probably, just adding to the count from a sunny central Canada.

Does anybody keep stats on how long (clock time) it takes to win one of these?
3579) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 877288)
Posted 19 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We did get the snow they threatened, but not too bad. when we get "lake effect" like this it can be very local. 2 miles away could get a major dump, we just got a trace. Lucky this time.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:13 PM EDT Thursday 19 March 2009
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 100.0 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 16 km

Temperature: -2.9°C
Dewpoint: -5.9°C
Humidity: 82 %
Wind: NW 15 gust 28 km/h
Wind Chill: -8
3580) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #83 (Message 877286)
Posted 19 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Congrats to Matt. Now lets get posting!
3581) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 877169)
Posted 19 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A chilly morning (5C) but looks ripe for another warm Sunny Spring day :)


Actually, +5 sounds pretty good to me. It was clear here last night, so we start off today with some frost. Should warm up a bit later, but there is a chance of more snow today (heavy sigh).

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EDT Thursday 19 March 2009
Condition: Clear
Pressure: 102.1 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -0.6°C
Dewpoint: -7.4°C
Humidity: 60 %
Wind: N 13 km/h
Wind Chill: -5
3582) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 877165)
Posted 19 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good morning North America and/or good whatever to the rest of you. In for a quick win in my morning.
3583) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 877021)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just a quick win, before the new episode of Lost begins.
3584) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Day the Earth Stood Still ( the original movie, 1951) (Message 876932)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Don't know where he came from, but has SETI scanned in that direction?
3585) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 876894)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning on my lunch break.
3586) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's Give Us a Caption IX..... (Message 876866)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Okay, here's the next one:



Herbert Q. Nesbitt, inventor of the motorcycle seat belt, has his moment of inspiration.
3587) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 876848)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It never got cold last night, a low of just 5.8C, so could well be a nice warm day again today. Slightly overcast this morning and currently 7.9C


The clouds overnight here kept it warm as well. Looks like rain right now, but a little would help wash away the crud left behind by the melting snow.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EDT Wednesday 18 March 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 101.5 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 7.6°C
Dewpoint: 4.1°C
Humidity: 78 %
Wind: WNW 9 km/h

3588) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 876847)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good morning / afternoon / evening / night everybody. Do I win?
3589) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? III (Message 876739)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Blurf, the old thread was taking a loooong time to open.

It really feels like Spring here. This can't last.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 PM EDT Tuesday 17 March 2009
Condition: Mostly Cloudy
Pressure: 101.8 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 9.0°C
Dewpoint: 1.3°C
Humidity: 58 %
Wind: SSE 13 km/h
3590) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 876513)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Clear and cold right now, but supposed to go up to 14C, 57F later on this St. Patricks Day.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EDT Tuesday 17 March 2009
Condition: Clear
Pressure: 102.4 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -1.9°C
Dewpoint: -4.8°C
Humidity: 81 %
Wind: N 4 km/h
Wind Chill: -3
3591) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 876510)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Happy St. Patricks Day to all. I hope we can put aside old differences and prejudices today, and focus on what makes this day special - green beer.

Winning, for now.
3592) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just Happy St. Pat's... (Message 876509)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Happy St. Patricks Day to all. I will be performing my annual experiments with beer and food colouring this evening, I will try to post some photos. I don't get good photos every year, sometimes it all gets fuzzy and out of focus. The pictures aren't any good either.
3593) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 876358)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Must this madness go on and on? Is there no end? Oh the humanity!

Of course, if I win, then I'm cool with it.
3594) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 876265)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This HAS to be the winning post.
3595) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 876261)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Terribly sorry to be such a bother, but I'm afraid ... I WIN!!!
3596) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 876219)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Maybe this post will win.
3597) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 876217)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A Canadian, an American, and a German walk in to a bar....

I'll finish the joke after I win.
3598) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 876213)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Posting for a win.


Or maybe this one will win.
3599) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 876212)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Posting for a win.
3600) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 876179)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning on my lunch break.
3601) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 876117)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Starting out on another beautiful almost Spring day here, supposed to go up to 13C, 55F today.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EDT Monday 16 March 2009
Condition: Partly Cloudy
Pressure: 102.4 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -0.2°C
Dewpoint: -5.4°C
Humidity: 68 %
Wind: NE 9 km/h
Wind Chill: -3
3602) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 876114)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just another manic Monday....

Got my tea, got a pile of paper to sort through, all I need is a win to complete the day.
3603) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 875982)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for the win, on a beautiful Sunday evening. Too bad tomorrow has to be Monday.
3604) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 875981)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
In for the win, on a beautiful Sunday evening. Too bad tomorrow has to be Monday.
3605) Message boards : Number crunching : pending credits (Message 875902)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
All things come to he who waits. My ap_v5 credits started to roll in today.

2481 from SETI alone today, compared to around 900 per day from all projects combined prior to ap_v5. This brings my pending down to 7000, still crunching 1 or 2 ap_v5 per day. It probably seems small to some of you, but it is pretty sweet to me!
3606) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 875852)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Steaks are marinating for the first serious BBQ of the year (last week was burgers). That, and a nice bottle of red wine, to celebrate my win.
3607) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 875820)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A late good morning, or maybe good afternoon, to everyone. And I win.
3608) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 875817)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Another sunny and (relatively) warm day shaping up here. time to BBQ again! First I need to restock on an essential BBQ aid - Moosehead.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 12:00 PM EDT Sunday 15 March 2009
Condition: Sunny
Pressure: 102.3 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 8.0°C 46F
Dewpoint: -5.4°C
Humidity: 38 %
Wind: calm
3609) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 875661)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks to all for the train pictures and links. It almost makes me feel bad to beat you.
3610) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 875528)
Posted 14 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
As expected, warmed up very nicely here. I can almost believe spring is finally coming - at least here in the middle of Canada. The daffs and tulips are up about an inch (2.5 cm) in the backyard.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 3:00 PM EDT Saturday 14 March 2009
Condition: Mainly Sunny
Pressure: 102.3 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 7.1°C 45F
Dewpoint: -6.2°C
Humidity: 38 %
Wind: W 17 km/h
3611) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 875525)
Posted 14 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning on a beautiful day in SW ONtario.

Love those train pictures SJ, got any without a pile of rocks in the background?
3612) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Quote of the Day (Message 875434)
Posted 14 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
How hard it is, sometimes, to trust the evidence of one's senses! How reluctantly the mind consents to reality.
- Norman Douglas



"Reality is a convenient prop for people who can't handle drugs."

I think Hunter S. Thompson said that. Also,

"Reality sucks."

Frequently said by an old attorney work mate of mine, when reviewing case files.
3613) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 875433)
Posted 14 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Some frost on the car this AM, because it was so clear overnight. Warming up though, might be a good day.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 9:00 AM EDT Saturday 14 March 2009
Condition: Sunny
Pressure: 102.6 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 19 km

Temperature: -2.9°C
Dewpoint: -5.6°C
Humidity: 82 %
Wind: WSW 5 km/h
Wind Chill: -5
3614) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 875429)
Posted 14 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning.
3615) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 875322)
Posted 14 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Been away for a bit, came home to nice weather, cool but clear and calm, and probably nicer tomorrow.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 PM EDT Friday 13 March 2009
Condition: Mainly Clear
Pressure: 102.8 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -2.9°C
Dewpoint: -9.4°C
Humidity: 61 %
Wind: SSW 9 km/h
Wind Chill: -7
3616) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 875319)
Posted 14 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Quick post before I collapse in a heap. 11 hour work day, 2.5 hour drive home.

After that, I better win.
3617) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 875071)
Posted 13 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Howdy all, especially the Canucks.

Just got in from a long hard day of working, followed by wings and Rickerts Red in downtown Welland.

Plus, I win.
3618) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 874713)
Posted 11 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I win...


Wrong - me.
3619) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 874637)
Posted 11 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The first few snowflakes started going by my window a few minutes ago. It was +6C (43F) when I got up this morning, before dawn, and now is about 0.

[edit] Hey, what happened to my signature!?!?!
3620) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally got around to installing the latest optimized clients, and.. (Message 874631)
Posted 11 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm getting one or two MB per week, plus one or two ap_v5 per day.
3621) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 874597)
Posted 11 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Strange weather here again. Warmed up overnight, the last of the snow has melted on my yard. Now its sunny, windy, temperature is dropping, and forecast is for snow this afternoon. But, rain warnig has been cancelled, and now we have a wind warning.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EDT Wednesday 11 March 2009
Condition: Mostly Cloudy
Pressure: 100.9 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 4.3°C
Dewpoint: -0.6°C
Humidity: 70 %
Wind: W 37 gust 50 km/h

London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County
5:04 AM EDT Wednesday 11 March 2009
Wind warning for
London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County continued

Strong winds today along a cold front.

This is a warning that damaging winds are imminent or occurring in these regions. Monitor weather conditions..

The cold front will arrive over western regions early this morning with average winds increasing to 60 km/h. Along the front winds will gust to 90 km/h. A few locations near Lake Huron, Niagara and along eastern Lake Ontario will gust near 100 km/h. The cold front will move into eastern Ontario by noon. Note that temperatures will drop to below freezing behind the cold front.
3622) Message boards : Cafe SETI : If you want someone... (Message 874586)
Posted 11 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Angel and most other Cats are trainable, You've telling a myth and an old wives tale.


Yeah, in theory. I know a guy who trained a rat to play fetch, but that didn't give it a charming personality or make it cute and lovable. Horses and pigs can be house-broken, but that doesn't mean they will love you for it.

Sorry, I'm just a dog person at heart.
3623) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 874585)
Posted 11 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Might go to San Fran again. It's got the UKs climate with nice surroundings :D


Yeah, it does rain a lot there ;)

Winning, and good morning/afternoon/whatever to all.
3624) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 874319)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just nuked some left over tea from breakfast, for my mid morning break. All ready for the outage, and ... I win!
3625) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 874289)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
About 99% of our snow is gone, and the forecast is for maple syrup weather for a few days: just below freezing at night, just above freezing during the day. Heavy rain due today, then some good days - just in time for a road trip later this week to visit a client.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EDT Tuesday 10 March 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 102.2 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 13 km

Temperature: -0.5°C
Dewpoint: -2.1°C
Humidity: 89 %
Wind: E 17 km/h
Wind Chill: -6

And the word from the Man about the rain:

Rainfall warning for
London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County issued

Significant rainfall beginning this morning and into overnight.

An intense Colorado low pressure system will strengthen as it sweeps across the Great Lakes late this evening and moves through central and northeastern Ontario by Wednesday morning. This system will bring periods of rain at times heavy to the above warned regions beginning this morning. Rainfall amounts are expected to increase during overnight hours as a warm front associated with the system approaches. In general a total rainfall amount of 25 to 35 millimetres are expected with the system before changing over to isolated flurries Wednesday morning.

3626) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 874284)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good morning (or whatever) to everyone. With the missing posts straightened out, now I must be winning.
3627) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 874064)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Or Fog, Although one might have to shovel Frogs or Cats and Dogs.


Can't remember the name of the comic, but he once said "It's raining cats and dogs outside, I know because I stepped in a poodle".

Sun coming out here, rain has let up for now.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 11:00 AM EDT Monday 9 March 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 101.9 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 0.3°C
Dewpoint: -2.7°C
Humidity: 80 %
Wind: NW 21 gust 33 km/h
Wind Chill: -5

3628) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 874024)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Morning all.

Disclaimer: This greeting is only valid in appropriate time-zones. If this greeting is inappropriate for the consumers time-zone, the consumer may replace it with a greeting more chronologically appropriate at the consumers discretion. Batteries not included.

Void where prohibited.


This greeting is packed by weight, not volume, and some settling may occur.

In the unlikely event of a loss in cabin pressure, masks will drop from the compartment above your head; place the mask over your own mouth and nose and continue to breathe normally, then assist small children with their masks (or adults acting like small children).


and remember, please greet responsibly.
3629) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 874023)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not raining too much just yet, but very soggy here. As they say in Vancouver, at least you don't have to shovel rain.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:34 AM EDT Monday 9 March 2009
Condition: Light Rainshower
Pressure: 100.0 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 2 km

Temperature: 0.6°C
Dewpoint: -0.1°C
Humidity: 94 %
Wind: NW 28 gust 39 km/h
3630) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 874019)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Morning all.

Disclaimer: This greeting is only valid in appropriate time-zones. If this greeting is inappropriate for the consumers time-zone, the consumer may replace it with a greeting more chronologically appropriate at the consumers discretion. Batteries not included.

Void where prohibited.


This greeting is packed by weight, not volume, and some settling may occur.
3631) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 873891)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What about the watch? No auto update on that.

Who uses one of those these days? I haven't worn a watch for about 8 years now. Ever since the company forced me to start carrying a cell-phone.


I can still look at my wrist faster than I can pull out a cellphone. Both my kids give me the "don't need a watch 'cause I have a cellphone" line, and then ask me what time it is.

And yes, I updated my watch. First. Then used that to set all the other clocks.

And, I win!
3632) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 873804)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Are ya sure ya got'em all?


Now that you mention it, forgot the cars. I'll get them the next time I use them.

Winning!
3633) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 873739)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Rain has stopped, I'm mopping up a few soggy corners in the basement.

London Int'l Airport
Date: 11:00 AM EDT Sunday 8 March 2009
Condition: Fog
Pressure: 101.6 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 6 km

Temperature: 3.5°C
Dewpoint: 2.0°C
Humidity: 90 %
Wind: E 9 km/h
3634) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 873738)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good morning, or afternoon, as the case may be.

All my clocks set here - I think.

BTW, I win!
3635) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 873581)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
A whole s**t load of rain here, and even some thunder and lightning. I'm sure it will clear up Monday morning. Snow is pretty well gone, and we're entering that brown time of year, when everything looks like an old sepia photograph.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 PM EST Saturday 7 March 2009
Condition: Thunderstorm with Rain
Pressure: 101.0 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 2 km

Temperature: 2.8°C
Dewpoint: 2.3°C
Humidity: 97 %
Wind: ENE 17 km/h
3636) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 873337)
Posted 7 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning after sleeping in on Saturday.
3637) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 873147)
Posted 7 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning.
3638) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 872999)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
What a day here! The sun is peeking out, the snow is down to dirty piles beside the driveway, and I'm about to take the cover off the BBQ!

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 1:00 PM EST Friday 6 March 2009
Condition: Mostly Cloudy
Pressure: 100.8 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 15.3°C 59F
Dewpoint: 10.4°C
Humidity: 73 %
Wind: SW 41 gust 55 km/h
3639) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 872826)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Stayed above freezing all night. I'm going out on a limb, and having the first BBQ of the year tonight.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EST Friday 6 March 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 100.9 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 10.6°C
Dewpoint: 7.5°C
Humidity: 81 %
Wind: SW 28 gust 37 km/h
3640) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 872822)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good morning all, I'm winning.
3641) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 872708)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think that Spring might be starting to show itself after all.


As the great Hans Solo often said, don't get cocky kid. Winter will probably have a blast or two more at us.

But for now, warming up here too. Temperature dropped a bit im mid afternoon, then started going up just before sunset.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 PM EST Thursday 5 March 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 101.3 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 9.2°C
Dewpoint: 0.0°C
Humidity: 53 %
Wind: S 22 km/h
3642) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . it's Robert Waite's Birthday 03.05.2009 (Message 872624)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Happy Birthday Robert! I dimly recall turning 52, I think it was fun.
3643) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Skynet? (Message 872599)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
[i]...Engineering Division, said what will make cybots so useful is that they will be able to form groups, function autonomously and respond almost immediately.


So, will they have their own Forum here, are should we share ours with them?
3644) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 872484)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

So much for the idea of the 50 year flood, It's dead now I gather. Hopefully You weren't affected back then.


We're on a bit of a hill here, so it will be a MAJOR flood before it hits us. We do have to be careful about which road we take into the city core when the river rises, though. Since the Big One in the 1920s, most of the river valley flood plain has been converted to parks, and a parking lot at the University.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPJV1mvnr4U
3645) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 872479)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
To help to understand "meh", it should be spoken while shrugging your shoulders, tilting your head, and frowning a little.
3646) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 872431)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Big howdy back at yah Mumps.
3647) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 872426)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Snow level here remains about a gazillion feet below sea level. Big bare patches of lawn and road starting to appear, as it warms up. Should go up to +5C today, and they're calling for rain on the weekend, back to the flooding.

Interesting local story on flooding in the paper here. There is a dike system near downtown, built after the big floods here in the 1920s, designed for a "50 year flood". The river went over the dikes twice between 1930 and 2000, and 3 times in the last 18 months.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EST Thursday 5 March 2009
Condition: Mainly Sunny
Pressure: 102.6 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -6.0°C
Dewpoint: -10.8°C
Humidity: 69 %
Wind: ESE 13 km/h
Wind Chill: -11
3648) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 872421)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Guten Morgen Mike. I win.

And hello everybody else, as well.
3649) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 872254)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Winning in the evening, then off to watch Lost.
3650) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse (Message 872167)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I don't think the CUDA people are sucking up all the WUs. If I go to a MB-only venue, I have no problem getting 1-20 at a time.


Cuda person here. I have a few MBs left but the last couple of times it has asked for work all I've gotten is APs.


I stand corrected. So, where are all the MB units going? From a quick glance at the server status page, there are still more MBs being created than astropulse.

Just had a thought - the important indicator might not be number of WUs, but maybe user clock time for the two types of wu's. As a first assumption, if everybody does wu's as fast as me (~30 minutes for a MB, ~20 hours for ap), current server status says we are making .5*21 = 10.5 user hours/sec of MB, and 20*.4 = 8 user hours/sec of ap. The ratio of these 2 numbers should stay the same for other users, as long as ratio of their clock time for mb and ap remain the same as mine (does that make any sense?) So, why aren't we all getting about 10 mb hours for every 8 ap hours? Converting hours back to wu's using my numbers, thats 20 mb units for every .3 ap units. From rough memory, I have received about 1o or 12 ap units in the last week, and exactly 2 MB units (on my main machine only). We have a mb gap!

Question for the Cuda Crowd: how many mb and ap units do you get per day, roughly?
3651) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mackenzie’s Music Thread (Message 872142)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:


Well, if anyones interested, norwegian viking pipe music is a connossiers taste...


Is that anything like the Trondheim Hammer Dance? I have that on an old Monty Python LP somewhere...

http://www.themadmusicarchive.com/song_details.aspx?SongID=27618
3652) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 872138)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thats only hundred miles from where my aunts lives.
Burlington.


I actually commuted daily to a job in Burlington about 8 years ago, for a few months. That's life as a contract engineer. It was good highway all the way, with talking books on the CD player. Also, it was spring and summer, so it was pretty easy to take.

Also, WINNING!
3653) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 872134)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Take heart, NH. Sun is out here in the Great White North, the snow is going down, and we are on our way to becoming the Great Muddy North, for a few weeks anyway.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 1:00 PM EST Wednesday 4 March 2009
Condition: Sunny
Pressure: 103.0 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -0.4°C
Dewpoint: -12.7°C
Humidity: 39 %
Wind: WSW 17 km/h
Wind Chill: -5
3654) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse (Message 872127)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Forgive me for overlapping some other threads, but here are my comments on this topic.

First, since installing ap_v5, I get almost (but not completely) only ap_v5 work units. I suspect that the Cuda crunchers are sucking up most of the regular multi-beam units. Also, because of the size of the ap_v5 work units, once I have 3 or 4 of these in my que then BOINC stops asking for more work for a while.

Second, with the optimized aps, I'm getting more credit per CPU hour with ap and ap_v5 then I got with strictly multi-beam. Can't speak for non-optimized aps, I didn't run them very long. It make take longer, while you wait for wingmen to come through, but you do eventually get more credit.

3655) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 872020)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Where do you live in Ontario?
I have relatives there.


London, the new one, not the old one. Just north of St. Thomas, in between Delaware and Strathroy, if that helps.
3656) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mackenzie’s Music Thread (Message 872019)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Gotta love the Ramones. The best British punk band that ever came out of New York ;)

I saw the special display for the Ramones a few years ago at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, when they wre inducted. There was a great quote from the drummer, something like "A lot of people say we only play short songs. Thats not true. We play regular songs, just really fast."
3657) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 872003)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Morning to all, from a clear and cold SW Ontario. Has anybody figured out exactly what the new colours mean?
3658) Message boards : Number crunching : Has it been 10 years allready (Message 871767)
Posted 3 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sounds a lot like how I started, except the salvaged computers were all in my house, and the only people laughing (then and now) where my wife and kids. My dog, on the other hand, supports me 100%.
3659) Message boards : Number crunching : Schedule question (Message 871726)
Posted 3 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm not trying to start any rumors here, but ...


I'll see your rumour, and raise you one innuendo.

Since installing ap_v5, i get ALMOST only ap_v5. I've had 2 straight ap's and 2 MB's in the last week as well. Most of the time I have 2 ap_v5 running and another 2 waiting (on a 2 CPU machine).

I suspect that the MB's are getting sucked up by the Cuda Crowd, leaving only ap, mostly ap_v5, for the rest of us.
3660) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 871702)
Posted 3 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good morning everybody. Start of another VERY cold day here, but winning has made me feel warmer.
3661) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 871582)
Posted 3 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If you really get our weather a day or 2 later KLC53, you won't like this.

Our local TV weather guy just said it will be a very late spring here, with frost and snow possible to the end of April. Thats 60 days from now.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 PM EST Monday 2 March 2009
Condition: Clear
Pressure: 103.1 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -13.4°C 7.9F
Dewpoint: -20.0°C
Humidity: 58 %
Wind: N 22 km/h
Wind Chill: -22 -7.6F
3662) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 871580)
Posted 3 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Posting well after dinner for a win.
3663) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 871525)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Not winning, just adding to the total. My next post will win.
3664) Message boards : Number crunching : I'm getting only AP WUs now, app_info.xml issue? (Message 871453)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For what it's worth: since adding AP_V5, I've gotten almost all AP and AP_V5 WUs, only a couple of MBs.
3665) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What was your first? (Message 871403)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ah yes, round slide rules. I still have my E6B, and my father's government issue one, somewhere in the basement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E6B
3666) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Radio Legend Paul Harvey Dies (Message 871396)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Let's not get too gooey about this guy.


Careful around the Yanks Robert. This is an American Legend you're talking about. Bush invaded countries for less than this.

Oops, now I'm doing it!
3667) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I hate February. (Message 871334)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

You may not have realized she loved her job.
So why quit?


You might love one of your next jobs even more, but you'll never know unless you try. Lots of times I needed somebody else to force me to try.
3668) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 871329)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Morning, all...freakin' cold....

Schools and businesses are closed.


Whereabouts is that happening? I heard a forecast of bad weather for New England today.

BTW, do I win?
3669) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I hate February. (Message 871323)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry to hear about the layoff, but you have to take a long term point of view. Looking back at all my many layoffs, I usually reach a point (a year or two later) where I say "why didn't I quit sooner?". As Neil Young said, "In the field of opportunity, its plowing time again".
3670) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 871320)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Very cold here for a few days, but at least its sunny most of the time.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EST Monday 2 March 2009
Condition: Sunny
Pressure: 103.1 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -14.8°C
Dewpoint: -19.5°C
Humidity: 67 %
Wind: N 22 gust 33 km/h
Wind Chill: -25

For the metric impaired, that current temp is +5F. The wind chill is -13F. Its friggin cold, in either language.
3671) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . tHe OFF-TOPIC Thread: Part deux (Message 871318)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
And who was the English comic that said "had to take the cat to the vet yesterday, he was sick as a dog.."?

Also, love a lot of the eastern Canadian expressions, like anything or anyone very fast is described as being "like Christ on skates". That always brings up an interesting mental image for me.
3672) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW #82...WINNER!!!! #1234!!!! Matthew Love!!!! (Message 871315)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Probably not winning, just adding to the number of posts.

Good morning everybody.
3673) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome to the 9 Year Club (Message 871312)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just found this thread, I guess I'm a nine year guy too. Been through several sets of hardware, and several e-mail addresses, so I'm not sure if the date listed is real or not. I would have guessed at about that date though.

Or did somebody say some of the old start dates are wrong?
3674) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 870126)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Quite a change over the morning! Since my last post it has gone from +8C to -2C, and now it is starting to snow.
3675) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 870010)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Rained like crazy all night, even had some thunder and lightning. Supposed to freeze over this afternoon, switching to freezing rain then snow. What fun.

The gov'ment boys say "light rain", they must be someplace different from me. I can barely see 2 houses away from where I am.

London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EST Friday 27 February 2009
Condition: Light Rain
Pressure: 100.0 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 2 km

Temperature: 8.0°C
Dewpoint: 7.5°C
Humidity: 97 %
Wind: SSW 21 gust 33 km/h
3676) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 869856)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Nice and warm here today, supposed to last till tomorrow.

London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 PM EST Thursday 26 February 2009
Condition: Haze
Pressure: 101.7 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 5 km

Temperature: 3.7°C
Dewpoint: 1.2°C
Humidity: 84 %
Wind: ESE 17 km/h
3677) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person To Post Wins #81 (Message 869412)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
No, my win.
3678) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 869409)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Almost noon and it's warmed up to -13C
Calling for -22C tonight with more snow


Talked to relatives in Edmonton on the phone last night, and it was -27C there. I guess spring is still sometime in the future for you guys out west.
3679) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 869388)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sunny, sunny, sunny! Whoopie!


Same here in the AM, but starting to cloud up. Will rain or snow tonight, depending on how cold it gets.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 12:00 PM EST Wednesday 25 February 2009
Condition: Partly Cloudy
Pressure: 102.5 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -0.1°C
Dewpoint: -8.5°C
Humidity: 53 %
Wind: S 21 km/h
Wind Chill: -5
3680) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person To Post Wins #81 (Message 869302)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
NOW do I win?
3681) Message boards : Cafe SETI : THE Joke Thread . . . CLOSED (Message 869047)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Two atoms are walking down the street. One stops and says "hey, I think I dropped an electron!". The other one asks "are you sure?". The first one replies "yes, I'm positive!".
3682) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 869004)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Ha! That's not cold! The weather here, as our east coast citizens might say, is some cold boyo.

The good news is that it is clear and sunny, and the temperature should pick up nicely.

Interesting news story in this morning's paper. The snow started so early last fall that the weather department was not set up to track the amount until several weeks after it started. Officially, we are currently at 2.5 metres accumulation (compared to a long term average of 2 metres per winter), but that doesn't include two weeks of snow in October, or the 4 to 6 weeks we could still have ahead of us.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EST Tuesday 24 February 2009
Condition: Clear
Pressure: 103.3 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -15.0°C
Dewpoint: -16.8°C
Humidity: 86 %
Wind: calm
3683) Message boards : Number crunching : No problem, just curious (Message 868761)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I learned to use a slide rule the same year Hewlett-Packard created a whole new kind of calculator with the HP-35.


Me too! It took a whole summer's worth of saving (minus beer money, of course) to buy a new HP-35. About $450, if I remember correctly.

I was marking freshman assignments that year, and I remember we started seeing all these crazy results, up to 14 decimal places. I asked the prof, and he said if they use 14 significant figures, they need to get all 14 right for credit. That's why I bought the HP-35.
3684) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person To Post Wins #81 (Message 868745)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
So, do I win? And more importantly, WHAT do I win?
3685) Message boards : Technical News : Of the Woods (Feb 19 2009) (Message 868562)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I suppose it is different from the IT dept in a technology company.


I have to think that SETI and BOINC are more of a development program, and not just an IT department. They do not exist to manage IT, but rather to do scientific work that uses IT.
3686) Message boards : Technical News : Of the Woods (Feb 19 2009) (Message 868538)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Can somebody please direct me to all these commercial development projects with bags of money and resources? In my 35 years of technology development, every project I've ever worked on needed more money, more time and more staff. In every case, the customer got what they paid for - no more or no less. From what I see, SETI and BOINC are not very different from this.
3687) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 868501)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well the weather is picking up here, must be Monday (see joke below). Much less wind, very little snow, and a promise of warmer weather in a few days.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:00 AM EST Monday 23 February 2009
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 102.8 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 19 km

Temperature: -8.5°C
Dewpoint: -11.0°C
Humidity: 82 %
Wind: NW 15 km/h
Wind Chill: -16

Old joke: In Canada, what name is traditionally given to the first day of really nice weather following two or three days of really bad weather? Monday.
3688) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mackenzie’s Music Thread (Message 868072)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
But ya have to play it on good equipment. I have always held a casual interest in classical music, but a friend who was a true audiophile made me realize just how much difference the equipment can make using this composition as one of his samples. Just unbelievable. And this is one of those that I can play on my equipment (that he helped me select) at normal volume levels which will cause the drop ceiling in my basement to rattl.eTo keep peace with the neighbours, I usually use. . .

On and listening to some Vivaldi even as I type. :o))


Good headphones can truly be addictive. For "normal" speakers, for years I have loved live classical music with large ensembles, but never enjoyed it as much recorded. I tended towards solo performances and smaller groups, like string quartets and Cream ;).

Recent readings in Stereophile make me think this is based on the limitations of my playback equipment. According to this mag, unless I drop about $100K on a stereo system, large classical orchestras will never sound good.

Note to self - buy another lottery ticket....
3689) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 868068)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Basically crap here. Several inches of snow and high winds all night, not too cold now but the wind makes it feel that way. And the snow continues.

Dug out one car and a small path from the door this morning so the wife could get out to a Big Sale - it's all about priorities. After I send this I'll fire up the snow eating monster and finish the driveway.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 10:00 AM EST Sunday 22 February 2009
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 101.4 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 6 km

Temperature: -5.9°C
Dewpoint: -9.3°C
Humidity: 77 %
Wind: W 21 gust 37 km/h
Wind Chill: -13
3690) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 867374)
Posted 20 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Bill, at the risk of damaging GREAT U.S.- Canadian relations, could you possibly keep the weather to yourselves, and quit sending MYway?(lol)

It's still February, it's still winter, and it's freezing outside...AGAIN.


Well, your prez and our PM were just talking about sharing climate responsibilities......

If it makes you feel better, it really sucks here too.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 10:00 AM EST Friday 20 February 2009
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 101.3 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 2 km

Temperature: -7.5°C
Dewpoint: -9.8°C
Humidity: 84 %
Wind: W 33 km/h
Wind Chill: -17
3691) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What was your first? (Message 867255)
Posted 20 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
First computer I used was an IBM 3270. Size of a small fridge, and IIRC, 640K RAM. First languages used were JCL and Fortran IV.

Excluding programmable calculators, first computer I owned was an second hand Amiga. Even came with a colour printer, but the printer ribbons were very expensive.
3692) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Quote of the Day (Message 867138)
Posted 19 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
If all the world is a stage, I want better lighting.

(I think that's from a Firesign Theatre LP)
3693) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 867135)
Posted 19 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Once again, London and Pittsburgh have very similar weather. Rain late yesterday got rid of a lot of snow. Turned to snow overnight, wind picked up, and right now it looks like a minor blizzard outside: blowing snow, snow squalls off the lake, and frigging COLD.

And by the way, wind chill applies to all exposed skin, like noses, cheeks, and fingers. I agree though, you have to run around naked to really appreciate it. (Or so I've been told.)

Date: 2:27 PM EST Thursday 19 February 2009
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 100.4 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 2 km

Temperature: -9.2°C
Dewpoint: -12.0°C
Humidity: 81 %
Wind: W 32 gust 41 km/h
Wind Chill: -18
3694) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mackenzie’s Music Thread (Message 867132)
Posted 19 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Always a good time to centre things with some Bach.

Google the name and this is the piece you always come up with, so who am I to argue with popularity.


Oh yeah. There is a lot of learned talk around about whether or not Bach actually wrote this, but who cares? If Larry the Cable Guy wrote it I would still love it. This is another one best played REALLY LOUD.
3695) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 866482)
Posted 17 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Dark, cold, and STILL winter!


We're sorry, But the Heat concentrating orbital solar mirrors are still on back order, So You won't get any warm up for abit. ;)


Back order you say? Must be government contracted.



No need for solar mirrors, we just need to increase the atmospheric CO2 level to get back to a reasonable temperature. I'll go start both cars, and then burn some garbage. Come on people, we can beat this winter thing!

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EST Tuesday 17 February 2009
Condition: Mostly Cloudy
Pressure: 102.5 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 16 km

Temperature: -6.1°C
Dewpoint: -7.8°C
Humidity: 88 %
Wind: S 8 km/h
Wind Chill: -10

3696) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nuclear subs collide in Atlantic (Message 866362)
Posted 17 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The American and US sub collisions resulted from them following each other. Makes you wonder what the French and the Brits are up to these days...
3697) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mackenzie’s Music Thread (Message 866358)
Posted 17 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Norman, I'm going to get out my Peter Green Project Cds now.

Interesting to see Mick Fleetwood with brown hair!
3698) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mackenzie’s Music Thread (Message 866319)
Posted 17 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, after the previous posts about Yes and Traffic, I dived back into my archives. The old gear was dusted off, candles were lit, chants were made, and offerings burned to the lesser god Vinyl. It was worth the effort.

The early Yes left me speechless. Full report to follow when I recover.

For Traffic, I played Low Spark of High Heel Boys, 1971, perhaps the best of the second (or was it the third?) incarnation of Traffic. The second side really touched me. Rock and Roll Stew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQItrDoO_KI moved me to share with you. This is truly world music, before Capitol W Capitol M World Music came along. You start with the freshness of the New World addition to Traffic, Rick Grech and Jim Gordon (before he went kookoo), on top of the Old World richness and class of the original Traffic, and then underlay it all with the really really old world rhythms of Reebob Kwaku Baah. This is where the modern world should be going, a blend of the best of all worlds.

Two other tips to really enjoy this.

First, PLAY IT LOUD on proper sound gear. YouTube and cheesy computer speakers don't cut it.

Second, Nederberg 2007 Shiraz. This is a still a real, peppery Shiraz, not the watered down crap you get from all the "we make a Shiraz too" wannabes these days. Goes well with rare beef, and rock and roll.
3699) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 866195)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Having lived in California and BC, I can say there is a strong similarity in the ways these regions stand apart from the rest of their parent country. I've been told that this is because of the general historical trend in North America for dissidents/non-conformers/radical thinkers to migrate west, away from the "old ways". The Pacific Ocean stopped this, and they've been slowly building up there for years.

Makes me wonder, where do these people go next? Another reason to start moving off the planet, perhaps.

Anybody out there that got fed up with the old fools in BC or California? Where did you / do you want to move to?
3700) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 866155)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Meanwhile, back in the east, we're not doing too bad for Canada in February (Lotusland excepted, of course):

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 11:00 AM EST Monday 16 February 2009
Condition: Partly Cloudy
Pressure: 102.8 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -2.9°C
Dewpoint: -9.8°C
Humidity: 59 %
Wind: NNW 13 km/h
Wind Chill: -8
3701) Message boards : Cafe SETI : tears won’t let me write it again (Message 866153)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think we have had so much change, so often, in our lives that we tend to ignore it all. For those a few years before us, it must have been much more noticeable. For me, my moment of insight came in a visit to my grandparents in Saskatchewan back in the late 1960s.

We started the day looking through old photo albums, with shots of my newly married grandparents arriving at their new farm in 1919, in a horse drawn wagon. They also had photos of the sod house that they built that first summer, and lived in until the wood frame house was finished.

We ended the day in their seniors apartment, watching live TV shots of men walking on the moon.

Makes the jump from Vista to Windows 7 seem pretty trivial.
3702) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mackenzie’s Music Thread (Message 865935)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Yes AND Traffic. How good is that? I'm warming up my phono pre-amp as we speak, and then I'm digging up the old vinyl.

Went to see live music this afternoon, a Valentines gift. Janina Fialkowski was performing. I learned two things:

First, keep an open mind. When I saw the program had Mozart and Ravel, I thought, no way - too different. But if you take Mozart at his darkest (for Mozart, anyway) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXMEkzYjjuY plus Ravel at his brightest and most accessible (for me that is), it can actually work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw0Iotmp3Kk . I don't know about you, but when I close my eyes listening to the Mozart, I see an old silent movie with either a sad scene, or the Bad Guys being particularly nasty (go to 3:28 in the youtube clip for the Bad Guys).

Second, the speakers on my computer, plus youtube sound quality, REALLY suck. Neil Young had it right, "live music is better" bumper stickers should be issued!
3703) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 865744)
Posted 15 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Today's Conditions
Observed on: February 15 2009 at 03:00 AM PST, Prince George

Current -22 C


That's pretty cold for BC! I guess you can't grow bananas in your backyard, like they do in Victoria?

Makes SW Ontario look semi-tropical in comparison:

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EST Sunday 15 February 2009
Condition: Mostly Cloudy
Pressure: 102.4 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -4.7°C
Dewpoint: -7.6°C
Humidity: 80 %
Wind: W 8 km/h
Wind Chill: -9
3704) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 865368)
Posted 14 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Looks like a good long weekend coming up here is SW Ontario. Supposed to clear up and warm up a little as the day progresses.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 9:00 AM EST Saturday 14 February 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 101.8 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -5.7°C
Dewpoint: -10.8°C
Humidity: 67 %
Wind: ESE 9 km/h
Wind Chill: -10
3705) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse FAQ (Message 865048)
Posted 13 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks Richard. I think I'll leave things as they are, until the new optimized AP is available, along with a new app_info.
3706) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse FAQ (Message 865040)
Posted 13 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

You can leave r103 active with the existing app_info.xml file if you want, and you will get an occasional resend from the unfinished v5.00 work: or you can switch to the stock v5.03 application.


Please forgive a simple question, from a simple person.

Can I leave my existing app_info.xml file, to continue using optimized MB, and somehow switch on stock V5.03 AP? Or do I need a new app_info? I need real easy step by step answers here ;).
3707) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 865010)
Posted 13 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Awoke to a nice thin layer of perfect white snow over everything. One good thing about this is it is covering all the dirt, garbage, and dog poop that the recent thaw revealed. Heavy local flooding all around after the thaw and rain, but not the worst we've seen.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:33 AM EST Friday 13 February 2009
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 100.0 kPa
Tendency: steady
Visibility: 4 km

Temperature: -1.5°C
Dewpoint: -2.2°C
Humidity: 92 %
Wind: NW 9 km/h
Wind Chill: -5

From the local news, heavily edited:

Areas of London, mainly Thames River parkland, were submerged, and streets deluged in Wallaceburg and flooding expected in coming days upstream of Chatham.

In Perth County, flooding washed out so many roads, crews were running out of barricades to seal off the roads.

In Bayfield, a marina filled with boats was destroyed when an ice jam broke up on the Bayfield River, smashing into riverside retaining walls.
3708) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 864716)
Posted 12 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
We now return to our normally scheduled winter, already in progress.

Snowing like crazy here in SW Ontario, as of a few minutes ago. The January Thaw is over.
3709) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 864663)
Posted 12 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The heavy rain has passed to the north and east of us, so now we are only soggy, not flooded. Some wind damage overnight around here, combination of soaked ground and high winds knocked lots of trees over. Maybe not the apocalypse, but just more global warming.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 10:13 AM EST Thursday 12 February 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 100.3 kPa
Tendency: steady
Visibility: 16 km

Temperature: 2.8°C
Dewpoint: 0.6°C
Humidity: 85 %
Wind: W 33 gust 58 km/h
3710) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 864406)
Posted 11 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Rain is picking up here, and the chance of flooding. This brings the Weather Threat Alert Level to sort of burgandy, but more mauve, with a bit of purple, kind of. Here is what the gov'ment has to say:

A low pressure system currently over Illinois will track toward Lake Huron tonight then eastward to Montréal by Thursday morning. Rain in advance of the low has reached southwestern Ontario and will continue to spread north and eastward through the day to reach the Ottawa Valley by evening.

For most locations, the rain will persist for approximately 24 hours with rainfall totals expected to be near or in excess of 25 millimetres. Due to frozen ground and a saturated snowpack, this meets Environment Canada's rainfall warning threshold of 25 millimetres in a 24 hour period.

KLC53, you should get this by Thursday as well.
3711) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . tHe OFF-TOPIC Thread: Part deux (Message 864348)
Posted 11 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

. . . Petition to Create a "Secretary Of The Arts" Created by Quincy Jones



Reminds me of the quote from Ghandi, when a reporter asked him what he thought of western culture:

"That sounds like a good idea."
3712) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 864321)
Posted 11 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This is the river behind my house today, shot with my cell phone. The ice jam just started to break-up.


Growing up in several small towns in western Canada, I remember that the ice breakup was always a big deal. In one placed, the locals would place a junker car on the ice in mid-winter, chained to the shore, and then sell lottery tickets on when the car would fall through the ice. Proceeds always went to a local charity.

In another town, I remember the locals phoning each other when the ice started to move out, even at 2 AM, and everyone would go down to the one bridge in town and watch. A real party atmosphere. And yes, it can make quite a noise.

6C and foggy here this morning. A lot of snow gone in the last few days, but slow enough that flooding is not a big problem - yet.
3713) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 864050)
Posted 10 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Rain here as well, leading to possible flooding in some areas. From history, we're OK, but it might be a bit tough getting into downtown later in the day.

Feels like the January Thaw might stretch into March!

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 7:10 AM EST Tuesday 10 February 2009
Condition: Fog
Pressure: 100.0 kPa
Tendency: steady
Visibility: 10 km

Temperature: 1.4°C
Dewpoint: -0.1°C
Humidity: 90 %
Wind: ESE 15 km/h
3714) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mackenzie’s Music Thread (Message 863685)
Posted 9 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This should be quite an interesting thread. I find that the older I get the more accepting I am of a wider variety of music, stuff that I used to consider "uncool" or "old people's stuff". I look forward to hearing what everyone is listening to and why.

I also find that music gives me a chance to relate to my kids on many different levels, as we learn from each other.

What my kids taught me: my daughter went to see Coldplay in Toronto several years ago, and was very impressed. I listened to them, and they have their moments. My son, after listening to my daughter go on and on, suggested she might like Radiohead. "What are they like?" asks my daughter. "Just like Coldplay, expect they don't suck", says my teenage son. I think I see some of what he meant too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nTFjVm9sTQ

What I hope I'm teaching my kids: both are beginning to appreciate classical music, at a younger age than I did. I fell in love with Bach while trying to learn classic guitar in my university days. Many years later, I discovered that almost all the Bach guitar music I had been listening to were recent transcriptions, as most of it was originally written for other solo instruments like cello and violin. It was like discovering a whole new Baroque master as I began to dig up the original versions.

I though this was the original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0QqHzF9X9w&feature=related

but it was really this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ83EBKH598

And of course, some people still think this is the original:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2RNe2jwHE0
3715) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 863472)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
From my childhood in the South-East of England, I remember the thaw didn't come until at least February.

In Germany, where I served with the British Army, the thaw didn't occur 'til March, most years.

From that. "Latest January Thaw" means the tabloids are either talking nonsense, as usual, or they have developed a sense of humour!


Here in southern Ontario we usually get one brief thaw in January, hence the name "January Thaw". Then it's back to ice and snow for another two months at least. This year the winter was much colder than usual, almost like "the good old days". So the first thaw of the new year didn't happen until 7 February, but people still want to call it the "January Thaw"
3716) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 863136)
Posted 7 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Interesting local bit of language usage going on here. The papers and TV are calling our present weather "the latest January thaw in several years". To everybody else it seems to make perfect sense, but I find it a bit amusing.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 AM EST Saturday 7 February 2009
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 101.4 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: 4.3°C = 39.74 degree Fahrenheit = 499.41 degree Rankine
Dewpoint: 1.8°C
Humidity: 84 %
Wind: SSW 30 gust 39 km/h

On-line temperature conversions from
http://www.onlineconversion.com/temperature.htm
3717) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 862860)
Posted 6 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Took a look at the top pic and the first thing that popped into my head was all right just wait till I get that snowblower driver I'll give him "orders"


If you're referring to the poor slob shovelling his roof, I don't think you can blame the snow-blower driver. Those are just drifts. Had to do this myself as a teen, on houses in Manitoba and in Edmonton. Fortunately, by the time you need to shovel the roof, there usually are drifts big enough that you can just walk up.

Another thing commonly done when the drifts get this big is to take a picture of a snow mobile parked on your roof. Many people seem to think this is funny.
3718) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 862827)
Posted 6 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'd love to have proper Winters like that if I was geared up for it.


I've had winters like that for 57 years, and I'm fully geared up with assorted snow shovels, snowblower, chains, sanders, salters, etc. I still hate it. Every shovel full.
3719) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 862815)
Posted 6 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For our friends in the UK with all the snow - I feel your pain. Now, on the theory that misery likes company, here are a couple of shots recently received from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (yes, that is the real name). See, it could be worse...



3720) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 862348)
Posted 5 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Bill- Your weather is about the same as ours down here in South Western PA, I think it's cold, but then, I'm just tired of winter already. But Punxsutawney Phil, (our famous local prognosticating groundhog) said 6 more weeks of winter. (little rodent!)


Our local weather expert, Wiarton Willie, gave the same bad news. What happened to global warming? I was sort of counting on that.

And Superjoker, 45F sounds like a fine spring day to me.
3721) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU time increases with no Progress? (Message 862336)
Posted 5 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Good idea from Richard, just be sure to again wait an hour or two after the restart to determine if you really have a problem.

You must develop patience Grasshopper, before you can snatch the WU from BOINCs hand.
3722) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU time increases with no Progress? (Message 862327)
Posted 5 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I sometimes see this in the short term, because the estimates of per cent complete and time remaining are just that - estimates. Trying to watch them in the short term can drive you crazy.

To be sure if you really have a problem, write down the CPU time, progress, and time to completion for a WU. Come back an hour or 2 later (longer on slower machines) and compare the displayed values to what you wrote down. If you see no increase in progress, or no decrease in time to completion (or even an increase in time to completion), you might have a bad WU. I get one or two per year. No choice then but to abort the task.
3723) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 862318)
Posted 5 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Cold and sunny here. Just in from shovelling the driveway - again. Almost no wind, so it is almost a nice day. For February in Canada, anyway.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 10:00 AM EST Thursday 5 February 2009
Condition: Ice Crystals
Pressure: 103.4 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -16.3°C
Dewpoint: -19.1°C
Humidity: 79 %
Wind: WNW 5 km/h
Wind Chill: -20°C
3724) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 861902)
Posted 4 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Looks like we are in the same situation as Pittsburg. It's not snowing, but it is cold! May get rain on the weekend, which will at least reduce the massive piles of snow on either side of my driveway.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 9:00 AM EST Wednesday 4 February 2009
Condition: Mostly Cloudy
Pressure: 102.4 kPa
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 24 km

Temperature: -16.1°C
Dewpoint: -19.8°C
Humidity: 73 %
Wind: NNW 15 km/h
Wind Chill: -24°C
3725) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 861080)
Posted 2 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Over here in the other London, I think we always have snow. Here is a picture I took on Christmas eve, of a City snowplow stuck in front of my house. It took the driver and a bunch of my neighbours about 2 hours to get it moving again.

Whatever happened to global warming? Most Canadians are secretly in favour of it, you know.

3726) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 860485)
Posted 1 Feb 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Snow yesterday, snow now, and then more friggin' snow tomorrow.

Observed at: London Int'l Airport
Date: 8:00 PM EST Saturday 31 January 2009
Condition: Drifting Snow
Pressure: 100.8 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 16 km

Temperature: -6.6°C
Dewpoint: -9.9°C
Humidity: 77 %
Wind: S 28 gust 45 km/h
Wind Chill: -15°C
3727) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 858897)
Posted 28 Jan 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Well, it is now a snowfall warning here (I think that is is Weather Threat Mauve).

The worst snow hasn't hit us yet, but I hear it is pretty bad in the small towns south of here. Apparently the snowplow didn't get out in Fingal before the morning rush started, and now both cars are stuck.

Here is the text of the warning, plus local conditions.

"It now appears that heavier snow from this storm will affect a large part of southern Ontario southeast of a line from Lake St Clair to lake Simcoe to the Petawawa area. Snowfall amounts near 15 cm are expected by this evening over areas from Kitchener southwest across London to Windsor. 15 to 20 cm of snow are expected in the Golden Horseshoe into Niagara then northeast across Peterborough to Renfrew. 20 to 25 cm possibly up to 30 cm of snow are expected in eastern Ontario including the national Capital region into the St Lawrence Valley.



Date: 7:00 AM EST Wednesday 28 January 2009
Condition: Light Snow
Pressure: 100.9 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 3 km

Temperature: -6.9°C
Dewpoint: -8.2°C
Humidity: 90 %
Wind: ENE 13 km/h
Wind Chill: -13
3728) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Is Your Weather Like? II (Message 858621)
Posted 27 Jan 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
The sun is out here today for the first time in weeks. Temp up to -10C, and with light winds it is almost bearable. Shouldn't get used to it though, the gov'ment weather guys just issued a "special weather statement" for heavy snow tonight. If it gets a little worse, the "special weather statement" becomes a "weather warning".

Just an idea, maybe they could colour code these. You know, "The Current Weather Threat is Orange". Think that would help?
3729) Message boards : Number crunching : Question about resetting with optimized apps (Message 858207)
Posted 26 Jan 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks to all. I've had one WCG task complete normally since this happened. I'll wait a while and see how it goes.
3730) Message boards : Number crunching : Question about resetting with optimized apps (Message 858177)
Posted 26 Jan 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I'm getting messages about resetting SETI and WCG like this:

26/01/2009 10:12:58 AM|World Community Grid|Task me720_00033_8 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
26/01/2009 10:12:58 AM|World Community Grid|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
26/01/2009 10:12:58 AM|SETI@home|Task ap_20dc08ag_B1_P0_00174_20090123_15758.wu_1 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
26/01/2009 10:12:58 AM|SETI@home|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
26/01/2009 10:12:58 AM|World Community Grid|Task me760_00049_1 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
26/01/2009 10:12:58 AM|World Community Grid|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.

Two questions:

Should I empty out the list of tasks before resetting?

After resetting SETI will I have to reload any of the optimized aps or the ap_info.xml file?
3731) Message boards : Number crunching : New version of Seti (Message 855192)
Posted 18 Jan 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

So, when can we expect 6.6.2?


6.6.2?

I don't even see anything newer than 6.4.5 yet.


See the second message in this thread, from Ageless. I think 6.6.2 is just a gleam in some programmers eye at the moment.
3732) Message boards : Number crunching : New version of Seti (Message 855188)
Posted 18 Jan 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
For what it's worth:

Since I switched to 6.4.5, I see a shorter list of WUs ready to start, and the time to completion for all these is about 50% to 100% higher than what they will actually take. (Those two observations are probably related.) This is for SETI and WCG both. But, I haven't had either CPU on one machine, or the single CPU on the second machine, run out of work yet. Touch wood ;). I guess if you have your cache set long enough (3 days in my case) the error in cache size calculations may not be enough to have your CPUS run out of work.

So, when can we expect 6.6.2?
3733) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : Payola... (Don't I wish!) (Message 854324)
Posted 16 Jan 2009 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Thanks to Eric for his openness. I've worked on many technology development projects over the last 35 years, and the balance between waiting to get it right, and getting good stuff out as soon as possible, is a delicate one. Erring in either direction can have undesirable results. Just look at at all the Shuttle "replacement" projects over the last 20 years, for example. The possible similarity between all the dead end replacement projects and something like the Cuda project is pretty obvious to me - if you keep waiting to get the new project perfect, some new technology (another GPU, or whatever) will come along and make it all obsolete before you deliver the product.

Or, as an old boss of mine used to say, if you don't royally @#$%-up once in awhile, you're not trying hard enough. He had a lot of other saying that applied to this situation, but the message board rules won't allow me to quote them.
3734) Message boards : Number crunching : Question about 6.2.19 (Message 836958)
Posted 4 Dec 2008 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
- best just to forget it and move on.


Good advice. Roger, Wilco.
3735) Message boards : Number crunching : Question about 6.2.19 (Message 836702)
Posted 3 Dec 2008 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Just received the following comment from a moderator at the BOINC questions and answers forum about this problem:

"Well, since they're showing as detached on Seti already, they can't be gotten back. It happens to one every 100 people that things don't go as it's supposed to go. In your case you now do have work, BOINC seems to be working as normal. I'd leave it as a minuscule fluke and forget about it.

There's nothing the developers will do about it anyway, as they're gearing up to release 6.4"


The WCG WUs are also detached, and presumably lost. Appologies to all my wingpersons, at SETI and WCG.

I can live with the fact that this is a random occurance on a minimally supported application. However, if anybody else is considering going to Manager 6.2.19, I strongly suggest you set your projects to "no new tasks" and finish your existing WUs first. Unless you feel good with the 1 in 100 odds...
3736) Message boards : Number crunching : Question about 6.2.19 (Message 836564)
Posted 3 Dec 2008 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Hi Ray;

I reattached WCG, so I guess I have their latest software. It downloaded a bunch of application type stuff, as well as new WUs.

Also just noticed that the list of SETI WUs after the upgrade are all past due! Before I upgraded BOINC Manager my WUs all had due dates in mid to late December, now they are all due in November. Is anybody else seeing this sort of thing?
3737) Message boards : Number crunching : Question about 6.2.19 (Message 836554)
Posted 2 Dec 2008 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Sorry if this isn't the right forum, but...

I just installed BOINC manager 6.2.19, as suggested by BOINC, and all my SETI work units came back. However, WU from another project (WCG) appear to be gone, including two that were underway. Can I get them back some how?

If this is the way installing 6.2.19 is supposed to work, shouldn't they tell us?
3738) Message boards : Number crunching : Saving $$ In a Tough Time (Message 798654)
Posted 16 Aug 2008 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
This may or may not save money, depending on your present life style.

Stop buying prepared/fast/convenient food! Take a tea bag to work ($0.05), instead of stopping at Starbucks ($5.00). Take fresh fruit and a sandwich to work, don't go to MacChoke-and-Puke. If you want to splurge with That Someone Special, buy a local bottle of wine, some fresh produce and meat, and cook at home. (The previous suggestions for nudity may help here, as well.)

It's all healthier, and way cheaper. And re-use the baggies!
3739) Message boards : Number crunching : Suspend SETI@Home until Stats export works again (Message 798642)
Posted 16 Aug 2008 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
...if they do not follow the basic rules of customer relations (not to talk about customer satisfaction).


Um, in all the industries I work in customers pay for services or goods. (Donations are welcome, but they don't make you a customer.) I suggest you demand a full refund for all the goods and services you have paid for. I'm assuming you saved all the reciepts.

Then stop wasting electrons, and my time.
3740) Message boards : Technical News : Blips and Bursts (Aug 07 2008) (Message 798143)
Posted 15 Aug 2008 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Having "lurked" here for a few days, I have to admit that I have really learned nothing. Either the solutions/theories being presented are way over my head, or you guys don't know s..t.

Having been through several major SETI breakdowns in the last few years, I have learned patience, and to have other projects on the go. My ultimate fallback at the moment is climateprediction.net. I have two tasks under way with them, with completion dates of September 2010 and May 2009. When those dates pass without new tasks, I will sell my computers and return to knitting.
3741) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 3 (Message 692260)
Posted 17 Dec 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
It's cold. I wonder when the first snow will come?


Sounds like summer to me. We had 18 inches (about 45 cm) of snow last night. Dug, blew, and swept for an hour, dropped number one child off at UWO for an exam, came home, and it started to snow again. I'm thinking of taking up hibernation.

BTW, I'm a tea drinker. Am I still allowed to post here?
3742) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC suspending computation regularly (Message 691432)
Posted 14 Dec 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
[quote
That option is under advanced menu - Preferences.

I do believe that you have the do work while computer is in use option unchecked.[/quote]

On my machines this choice doesn't show up under advanced menu - preferences. Also, I did have the "do work while computor is in use" option checked.

I did find it on the "computing preferences" web pages for SETI, Rosette and Einstein, but not for CPDN or WCG. All have been set to zero, all 3 boxes rebooted, and everything seems fine for now.


3743) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC suspending computation regularly (Message 691390)
Posted 14 Dec 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I think I've solved this. It appears to be an issue with BOINC Manager 5.10.28. After scrolling through all the .xml files on my 3 boxes, I found this in global_prefs.xml on all 3 boxes:

<suspend_if_no_recent_input>3</suspend_if_no_recent_input>

It appears that the earlier versions of BOINC Manager ignore this or override it somehow. I edited the .xml file to change the value to 15, and the machine started suspending every 15 minutes. It is now set to 9999, and has been running for about 30 minutes without problem. Stay tuned for further developments.

Some questions remain, however. Why is only 5.10.28 using this value? Why can't I find it or change it on any of the pull down menus in BOINC Manager? Having to edit the .xml file doesn't seem to be very user friendly.
3744) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC suspending computation regularly (Message 690917)
Posted 12 Dec 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

Possibly it would help to compare client_state.xml files between the one with weird behavior and one which is working as expected, probably only the host_info section.

I get the feeling it may have something to do with the preference to only crunch when the user is inactive, but the core client is toggling the activity the wrong way. You might want to change the state and duration of that setting to see if it modifies behavior.

If you haven't tried a reinstall, there's always a possibility that boinc.exe or one of the DLLs it uses has been corrupted. I'd just copy known good files from one of the hosts which is working correctly, but doing a repair from the installer is the official approach.
                                                                Joe


I compared the .xml files, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for. The differences seem to be related to the different processors in the different boxes.

I tried a re-install of BONIC Manager, no difference. Tried changing various things in local and global preferences, still no differences. The misbehaving box has been shut down for now, it may just be too old.
3745) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC suspending computation regularly (Message 690767)
Posted 12 Dec 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I would check the preferences. New host venue possibly? Local preferences?


I reset to network preferences, no differences. Tried running just SETI, then just Rosetta, no differences. The other other 2 PCs running the same network preferences are behaving as per normal.
3746) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC suspending computation regularly (Message 690662)
Posted 11 Dec 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Is this a laptop machine? What version of BOINC is running on this machine?

It is a very old desktop, running a 902 mHz Celeron single processor, and BOINC Manager 5.10.28.
3747) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC suspending computation regularly (Message 690489)
Posted 11 Dec 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
One of my 3 PCs has just started suspending computation after running for 3 or 4 minutes, and then resumes on any input (keyboard, mouse movement, etc.). It doesn't appear to be running hot, and the other 2 machines are working as normal. Typical messages below. Any suggestions?

12/10/2007 7:27:03 PM||Suspending computation
12/10/2007 7:27:26 PM||Resuming computation
3748) Message boards : Number crunching : Heat - The Dreaded Enemy (Message 654790)
Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Anything approaching the Thermal Specification is of course cause for concern, particularly as temperature measurements are generally not very accurate. As a rough rule of thumb, each 10C increase in temperature halves the life of electronic equipment. It's always sensible to keep the cooling working as efficiently as possible.

Thanks for saying that Joe. As a former reliability guy, the binary model many folks have (if below temperature x, then zero problem) really bugs me.

Cooler is, nearly always, better.


And thank you Josef for the Intel link. That is exactly what I was looking for. They are T2500 CPUs. I feel a little better now about my temps, but I will obviously keep the airways clean and functioning.

BTW, I never had any intention of dismantling a lap top. In my many years in complex electromech and hydromech systems I saw far worse damage done by amateur disassembly and reassembly than by normal wear and tear. I'm even leary of compressed air, because of bad experiences. I cleaned it with a Wheaties-powered air compressor (me).

Concerning the "binary model", I spent way too much time in line behind a person at a car dealer a few years ago, listening to them argue that their car should be fine, since the temperature gauge was just below the red line for the last six months, but never went over once. The universe is far more complex than most people imagine.
3749) Message boards : Number crunching : Heat - The Dreaded Enemy (Message 654580)
Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
At the risk of hijacking the thread: can somebody help a noob with information on "acceptable" CPU temperatures?

I've been running SETI and some other projects on a Toshiba Satellite A100 with a Pentium M dual core processor for over a year now. The exit air temperature seemed to be going up lately, so I downloaded the Intel TAT to look at the temps. The CPUs were running at 67 to 70C. After blowing out (but not disassembling) the air path, this dropped to 60 to 62C.

Is this cause for concern? Where can I find the manufacturer's recommend operating temps?
3750) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : Eric's Octennial Post #10: Ewoks live under my deck. (Message 652461)
Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

You forgot to mention 'garbage' on the list of things they will eat. I finally found that putting a bungie cord across the top of the garbage can lid and fastening it to the handles will keep them out...at least long enough for me to hear them rattling the can around so I can get outside to chase them away. And no more mess to clean up now.


Bad news. Bungee cords worked here in the Great White North as you described - until two weeks ago. Now the local night raiders (as we call them) have learned to knock the can over, then shift the lid sideways just enough to reach in with two tiny almost-opposing thumbs and rip open the bags inside. The bungee cord remains attached through the process, just gets stretched a little. Is this evolution in practice, or maybe just bungee cords loosing tension with time?

3751) Message boards : Number crunching : Jobs restarting, with longer time to completion (Message 626714)
Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:

The basic problem of restarting is a puzzle. Did you have it before you "upgraded" to BOINC 5.10.13?
                                                              Joe


To be honest Joe, I can't remember when I upgraded BOINC. I know I upgraded to SETI 5.27 right before the problem appeared, and I would have upgraded BOINC as soon as I noticed it was available. Looking back on it, the problem probably started 20 August, or maybe a few days sooner. I aborted several jobs back then, when I saw the time to completion going up and up. I thought these were the "Splitsville" problem. I finally completed a job after Richard recommended switching to "leave applications in memory when suspended".

I think that even after this I had a few "spontaneous" restarts, with the time to completion going up, but not to the extremes seen before.
3752) Message boards : Number crunching : Jobs restarting, with longer time to completion (Message 626599)
Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
There are obvious opportunities for other activity to influence the tests, particularly on systems with multiple processors. It's an area which can be improved, but probably the choice is usually the best routine or one which is so close as to make very little difference.
                                                              Joe


If I understand you correctly Joe, you are saying:
- it is not surprising that a different set of routines was chosen on each restart, possibly because of other things going on in the computer at the time,
-the different sets shouldn't make a big difference in computation time anyway, and
- this shouldn't contribute to the number of restarts, and the unexpected behaviour of the "time to complete" on each restart.

Concerning the early post about possible power control issues, why would the problem appear now, when I've been running SETI on this box for 10 months, without changing power settings? Also, why is only SETI effected? Based on purely empirical data (and damned little computer knowledge) I suspect that the longer run time work units that came with MB may have prompted this behaviour. Still, I wonder why things like Climate Prediction (currently showing 726:00 CPU time used, 2000+ to go) don't show similar effects.
3753) Message boards : Number crunching : Jobs restarting, with longer time to completion (Message 626560)
Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
I will run the windows hard drive test, and let you know.


CHKDSK found no problems. I'm tempted to turn off "leave applications in memory" to see if it comes back.
3754) Message boards : Number crunching : Jobs restarting, with longer time to completion (Message 626390)
Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Excuse the brain f*rt, they are dual core T2050s. The Pentium Ds are in my desk top, not available for BOINC.

The fan comes on full at 58/59C, with a "fairly warm", not uncomfortable for a short time, air flow. This behaviour has been pretty constant since I got the machine. Blocking the air outlet by hand is good for about an extra 2C.

I will run the windows hard drive test, and let you know. Can anybody recommend a better (free) hard drive checker?
3755) Message boards : Number crunching : Jobs restarting, with longer time to completion (Message 626350)
Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
My first guess would be overheating, but I'm out of my depth here.


Can anybody tell me what a "normal" temperature range is for Pentium Ds in a lap top? I've been using the Intel temperature monitoring utility for the last couple of days, and I see temps normally in the 61 to 63C range. When the screen shuts down, the temp will drop to about 57C, coming back up within about 5 minutes of the screen being re-activated. The default Toshiba temp warning limit for the CPUs is set at 68C, so I though I had some cushion.

The only other temps I can find info on (so far) are "ACPI Thermal Zone TZ01_0" and "...TZ02_0", both are always within 1C of the CPU temps.
3756) Message boards : Number crunching : Jobs restarting, with longer time to completion (Message 626315)
Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
Post:
Richard - your suggestion to leave applications in memory when suspended may be working.


Success! Job completed normally last night, after 46,569 seconds. New job appears to be running normally. Results are at http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=150079901
waiting to have their entrails read.
3757) Message boards : Number crunching : Jobs restarting, with longer time to completion (Message 626021)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
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Richard - your suggestion to leave applications in memory when suspended may be working. My most recent offending job, 02mr07ah.29213.481.10.5.111_0, appears to be switching on and off at regular intervals. Time to completion is slowly going down, and it is up to 51% complete, with 7:15:00 to completion. I'll keep my fingers crossed!
3758) Message boards : Number crunching : Jobs restarting, with longer time to completion (Message 625764)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
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Since you're getting these random restarts, I'd add: check the graphics card fan for proper cooling, and check the card itself is properly seated in its slot, as well as following bounty.hunter's advice about graphics drivers and DirectX.


First, let me say thanks to Richard for taking the time to work with me on this. It has been driving me crazy. And thanks to others for sharing similar problems. Misery loves company.

Checked all my drivers are up to date, fan is working, per the Intel TAT load test, and CPUs are at 60 to 61C with BONIC running flat out on both processors. I think that is acceptable, but would welcome any correction.

Not sure about re-seating video card. I'm running on a Toshiba Satellite lap top, about one year old, with no problems so far (touch wood). Can cards come loose on these? Also, if it was a hardware problem, wouldn't I see effects on my other BOINC projects?
3759) Message boards : Number crunching : What's in YOUR rac? (Message 625680)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
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But LOL, fellas, I am still looking in this thread to hear from the NON-optimizers.


Here is 2 cents worth from the non-optimized, low end of the RAC crowd.

The first week or so of running SETI 5.27 my RAC was constant to slightly rising, around 55 to 70. This was pretty much the range it had been bouncing in for several months previously. However, I have not been able to complete a SETI job in the last five days, and my RAC is drooping as you might expect. I have had jobs hang up, restart on their own, etc. See a separate thread in this board, http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=41827.

3760) Message boards : Number crunching : Jobs restarting, with longer time to completion (Message 625598)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
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As a temporary workround, if you're prepared to run the machine like this, you could set 'Leave applications in memory while suspended?' to Yes: provided you didn't have to restart BOINC for any reason, the WUs would then crunch to completion without having to rely on a checkpoint file.

Then, once you've uploaded and reported the WUs which have been struggling to date, we can look in <stderr_txt> and see if there are any messages about checkpointing to help the next person who asks.


Tried that, but the current project locked up after a few hours, stuck at 8.26 % complete, but no change in CPU time. The "to completion" time went from about 9:30 when it started, to currently showing 13:56. The status says running, but nothing is changing.

Unless you have another suggestion, I'm going to can this one too. BTW, job id is 02mr07ah.29213.481.10.5.111_0. Here are the last few messages:

8/23/2007 9:22:18 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 02mr07ah.29213.481.10.5.111_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527

8/24/2007 9:14:28 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 02mr07ah.29213.481.10.5.111_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527

8/24/2007 10:29:48 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 02mr07ah.29213.481.10.5.111_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527


FORGET ALL THAT. While I was cutting and pasting this info, the job restarted, no messages, but time counters are moving again. I'm so confused....

Added slightly later: shortly after the counters started moving, a message was generated:

8/24/2007 11:33:27 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 02mr07ah.29213.481.10.5.111_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527

Also, the time to completion jumped up, to 15:10 (was 13:56 when the job was frozen). It appears to me that my SETI jobs are restarting on their own, from the beginning or near the beginning. I'll let this run through the weekend to see if there is an end to all this.
3761) Message boards : Number crunching : Jobs restarting, with longer time to completion (Message 625463)
Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
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I wonder if anyone else is seeing this with the Multi-Beam data. I have had several jobs that restart on their own, with the "Time to completion" increasing each time. Here is one example: when it was first downloaded it estimated about 9:30 to complete.

After 5:38 CPU time used, it showed 23.7% complete, 9:59 to go

After 6:30 CPU time it was 12.57 % complete, 13:09 to go

After 9:30 CPU time it was 1.6 % complete, 18:48 to go.

I exited and restarted BOINC, and let it run overnight. Here is what I found this morning:

8/23/2007 10:25:29 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 13fe07ab.527.9479.3.5.95_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
8/23/2007 10:44:47 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 13fe07ab.527.9479.3.5.95_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
8/23/2007 11:04:59 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 13fe07ab.527.9479.3.5.95_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527

(bunch of messages omitted)

8/24/2007 6:31:42 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 13fe07ab.527.9479.3.5.95_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
8/24/2007 6:41:53 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 13fe07ab.527.9479.3.5.95_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
8/24/2007 7:05:05 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 13fe07ab.527.9479.3.5.95_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527

It is currently showing 14:37 CPU used, 12.6% complete, 20:11 to completion.

I'm running three projects under BOINC, and I would expect SETI to restart about every three hours. I haven't completed a SETI job in several days, they have all either locked up or gone into this weird behaviour. I was doing one or two SETI results per day before that. The other two projects are working normally (Climate prediction and world grid)

Any suggestions?
3762) Message boards : Technical News : Tuesday Afternoon (Aug 21 2007) (Message 624575)
Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
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What you might try in future is closing down BOINC and restarting it. Sometimes after that restart the WU may exit normally or with an error code other than the "Aborted by user" one. Also sometimes it hangs again, if so aborting them is definitely the sensible thing.
                                                                Joe


Thanks Joe. My BOINC gets shutdown every night, and most of the time I notice the SETI job is stalled when I restart the next day. Also, it will usually show a step increase in "time to completion" at this time. I've started making notes on times and % complete when I shut down and when I restart, and I'll post any interesting results.
3763) Message boards : Technical News : Tuesday Afternoon (Aug 21 2007) (Message 624417)
Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
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Bob and I were musing on the changes in the result table, namely its increase in size ...

Also, it seems that many WUs are remaining in the DB long after all the results have been reported and validated - I still have many that are as much as 6 days after the last result was reported.- Whit


I'm not sure, but maybe the WUs waiting to be validated are ones where the second result has been aborted by users (like me). I've had several of the new multi-beam WUs, mostly 13fe07a..., that got stuck at about 15% complete, with time to complete increasing at one indicated second per real second. I just canned them, when I finally noticed them. Is that the right thing to do?
3764) Message boards : Number crunching : Time to Completion steadily increasing (Message 604109)
Posted 15 Jul 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
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[quoteIt was truly stuck and making no progress. The application recalculates its progress very frequently when running normally, even on a very slow system the fractional part should show changes each time BOINC Manager updates its display.

If ever I saw unchanging progress for 30 seconds I'd take action to kill the application and restart it from the last checkpoint. The advice to reboot of course accomplishes that for any combination of preferences and any platform.
                                                                Joe
[/quote]

I finally suspended Climateprediction, just to see what would happen. SETI restarted, ran normally for a few seconds (time to complete going down as CPU time went up), but then exited with an error:

7/15/2007 2:10:07 PM|SETI@home|Reason: Unrecoverable error for result 07my00aa.14716.3026.461070.3.229_2 ( - exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005))

So, was the file I received corrupt in some way, or is there anything I need to do to keep SETI running on my machine?
3765) Message boards : Number crunching : Time to Completion steadily increasing (Message 604020)
Posted 15 Jul 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
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You say it's still progressing, so it's not stuck, but something seems amiss. perhaps something is stopping boinc from running. Something like a preference setting (do work while in use NO, comes to mind). Have you tried a restart of the puter to free resources? Have you tried suspending and resuming the task? If else fails, just abort it and move on.


Thanks all for the suggestions. I did reboot this morning, and Climatepredication has been running for about 3 hours straight now. Presumably this is to make up for the time SETI was "stuck". (both SETI and Climateprediction have equal resource shares on my machine). I'll let you know what happens when SETI restarts.
3766) Message boards : Number crunching : Time to Completion steadily increasing (Message 604001)
Posted 15 Jul 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
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My most recent SETI@Home task, work unit 140472475, seems to be behaving a little strangely. Since it started, the "time to completion" has gone up by roughly one second for every second of CPU used. It now sits at 29:51:02 CPU time used, 30:02:01 time to completion. It has been stuck at 24.668% complete for some hours now.

I also noticed this task ran continuously for at least 6 hours (maybe longer, I don't check my BOINC statistics regularly). My machine normally switches between SETI and Climateprediction at roughly one hour intervals. I rebooted my machine, and it came back with Climateprediction running.

This isn't very scientific, but based on viewing the graphics for this task, it appeared to be proceeding painfully sloooooowly.

Should I just kill this task, or can it be salvaged?
3767) Message boards : Technical News : Fast One (May 16 2007) (Message 573124)
Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
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I just started reading this message board a week or two ago when all the brouhaha started, and I feel I have to add my support to the team at Berkley.

I have been involved with, and run, large hardware/software development programs for thirty years, and if we are getting all this work for only $500,000 a year, it is a real steal. I almost feel guilty when I expect more work from SAH, knowing that somewhere somebody is being paid starvation wages to make old, one-of-a-kind hardware run a little harder.

Look at other "always-on" technical efforts, like your electricity supply or you cell phone network, think about what their budget is, and they STILL have outages. And we PAY them!

Concerning the recent problems, I guess I've been lucky. BOINC did what it was supposed to, and found other work for me till SAH got fixed. Even in the recent delays over the last 2 days, I didn't even know it happened until I read this message board. I then checked my BOINC messages and, sure enough, there were a lot of error messages from SAH, and my other projects got a little more CPU time on the weekend. I'm too busy with another little project (life) to read my BOINC messages every three minutes.

For those of you that somehow feel SAH has let you down, I fully support your right to ask for a full refund. Got change for a penny?

PS - go Senators!
3768) Message boards : Technical News : Fast One (May 16 2007) (Message 569093)
Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Bill Walker
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First, let me say thanks to the SAH staff for their efforts over the last few weeks, both in fixing things and in keeping us informed.

Second, I finally got a WU, and I'm trying to report it, but I'm getting a new error message - new to me anyway.

5/16/2007 8:47:39 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks
5/16/2007 8:47:39 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 1863 seconds of new work, and reporting 1 completed tasks
5/16/2007 8:48:04 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]
5/16/2007 8:48:04 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: Incomplete request received.

Anything I should be doing from my end, or is this part of the general mess already underway?


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