Posts by Victor A. Wedge

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Running, high priority (Message 769845)
Posted 18 Jun 2008 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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It can be a combination of things. For example, if you have your computer set to connect only every 10 days ("Computer is connected to the Internet about every" on your computing preferences page if you're not using local settings), and you get a WU that is due in a week, it will immediately send you into "high priority" mode, even if you actually have an always-on connection. And you can also get a lot of work downloaded via this setting, as well as the "Maintain enough work for an additional" days setting.


I've updated my preferences to indicate I'm always online, and to try to maintain 3 day's work. Maybe I should tell BOINC No New Work until it catches up. At which point I guess I'll have a SETI surplus and BOINC will go heavy on other projects until they even out.

2) Message boards : Number crunching : Running, high priority (Message 769823)
Posted 18 Jun 2008 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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This is what happens when Boinc thinks you're in danger of not finishing some of your tasks before the deadline.


That makes since ... I DO have an unusually long list of work units on board. Which begs the question, why did BOINC download so many of them at once.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Running, high priority (Message 769819)
Posted 18 Jun 2008 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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I've noticed for the past 7-10 days BOINC is running nothing BUT SETI ... showing Status for units in progress as 'Running, high priority'. Up until this started I hadn't actually seen that descriptor. Now, that's all I am seeing on my desktop. My notebook, however, seems to be behaving normally.
4) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : Better than nothing... (Message 510957)
Posted 30 Jan 2007 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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Steely Dan is the only artist that Matt mentioned that I recognize. "Do It Again" and "Reeling in the Years", both from 1973, are the only songs that I remember from him.


I would add Herbie Hancock, otherwise the list seems pretty esoteric. BTW, Steely Dan is not a 'he' ... it is a group. Fantastic to see perform, astonishing in their perfection.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Configuring dual core dual processor (Message 254439)
Posted 27 Feb 2006 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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You know, next year we'll see quad core CPUs from Intel - probably also AMD. Now, what I'd like to have, is two of those on a dual socket MB... only I don't think Windows can handle that with my current licence for Win XP Pro. So I guess it's either Linux, Windows Vista or a server version of Windows XP.

But it'll be fun to see how such a system will perform with SETI. :)


Having just spent 3G on a new system ($800 on monitor)which will be my primary for a few years, I don't anticipate aquiring that technology for a while. Hard to think of what I can buy for 3G in five years, when I'm ready.

The system I just retired served me for almost 8 years. Was hot shoot when I bought it, $2500 for the tower alone (HP 733 MHz PIII). I'm willing to pay a premium when I do upgrade because I figure whatever I settle on will have to make me happy for a while. I will be envious though, when I see newer stuff available.


It's late, and I just had to add. I've been into computers since the C64. Really, before that, programmable calculators (TI-58C). Took a formal programming class or two in the early 1980s. I kinda miss the days when we were closer to 'the machine'. But, this is progress. I foresee a point in the not so distant future when keyboards will be optional equipment. Before the internet, which makes this distributed processing possible I spent an embarrasing total hours writting programs nobody would have any interest in execpt other programmers. Ah, the good old days.

The SETI/BOINC thing is fabulous. Whoever conceived of it should be awarded a Nobel Prize.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Configuring dual core dual processor (Message 254435)
Posted 27 Feb 2006 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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You know, next year we'll see quad core CPUs from Intel - probably also AMD. Now, what I'd like to have, is two of those on a dual socket MB... only I don't think Windows can handle that with my current licence for Win XP Pro. So I guess it's either Linux, Windows Vista or a server version of Windows XP.

But it'll be fun to see how such a system will perform with SETI. :)


Having just spent 3G on a new system ($800 on monitor)which will be my primary for a few years, I don't anticipate aquiring that technology for a while. Hard to think of what I can buy for 3G in five years, when I'm ready.

The system I just retired served me for almost 8 years. Was hot shoot when I bought it, $2500 for the tower alone (HP 733 MHz PIII). I'm willing to pay a premium when I do upgrade because I figure whatever I settle on will have to make me happy for a while. I will be envious though, when I see newer stuff available.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Configuring dual core dual processor (Message 254295)
Posted 27 Feb 2006 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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I'm convinced. I thought they were dual core, and I concluded the appearance of four CPU usage history graphs in Task Manager was supporting 'evidence' ...
Hey, these four beat the heck out of the single I just replaced.
Thanks to all for the good information.


UPDATE: It has been a week since I switched to optimized SETI Application. Results: My seven day average credits per day has increased by 58%
As had been noted by others, the credit claimed decreased to less than 50% of what had been the norm. But, not only are more WUs being processed, but the credit granted is 220% of credit claimed.

Just in case someone might be interested. Thanks again for the good info.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Configuring dual core dual processor (Message 250686)
Posted 20 Feb 2006 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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Are you saying you have one dual core cpu or you have 2 dual core cpus?

Neither.
He has a system that has 2 physical CPUs, each supports HyperThreading, so a total of 4 virtual CPUs.




I'm convinced. I thought they were dual core, and I concluded the appearance of four CPU usage history graphs in Task Manager was supporting 'evidence' ...
Hey, these four beat the heck out of the single I just replaced.
Thanks to all for the good information.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Configuring dual core dual processor (Message 249765)
Posted 18 Feb 2006 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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So it looks like Victor has the ability to calculate with eight threads, based on this discussion. Maybe he needs another operating system to utilize eight threads. Doesn't XpHome only handle two, and Pro four? I read somewhere that Windows Server 2003 might handle eight, and I don't see why not Linux. If he gets eight working his times will increase but his total output from his two Xeons should increase perhaps by 25 percent. But I guarantee nothing. All this is based on what I read and remember. Also his processor temperatures may increase at least a couple degrees C due to more work.


This puzzles me if it is true. I have verified that hyperthreading is active. Perhaps it is the OS, WinXP Pro32. I'm not ready to take the leap to 64 though, not enough software out there that takes advantage of it. In time. Also, my urge to crunch more doesn't make me want to run the chance of damaging my PC. If that desire was strong enough I'd more likely invest in a couple fast but cheap units dedicated to the purpose.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Configuring dual core dual processor (Message 249199)
Posted 17 Feb 2006 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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1. Does SETI condone these? If so, why don't they issue an optimized application to everyone who joins the project?


Yes, they do. Much of the optimizations are specific to the characteristics of your specifc processor, (How much cache, which instruction set) that they do not currently have the ability (I think) to check in boinc. Also it would be a lot more work on the testing side to have to test and maintain 4 or 5 app versions for each OS.


That makes perfect sense to me, hadn't considered from that perspective. I have used WCPUID to determine the version I need, and will probably proceed this weekend.

One thing off topic to this board, hope its ok ... I had a WU underway for CPDN. Something like 20% completed with months to go. Today, it was replaced with a new WU, no sign of the partially completed one. Is this due to the BBC project?
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Configuring dual core dual processor (Message 249181)
Posted 17 Feb 2006 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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Well, I looked on the Intel site, and as I'd thought dual-core Xeons do indeed exist. Whether Victor has them or not -- well, your guess is as good as mine.


Yes, mine are dual core, and I have two physical CPUs. And, looking at the Windows Task Manager/Performance tab I see four individual graphs for 'CPU Usage History'.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Configuring dual core dual processor (Message 248851)
Posted 16 Feb 2006 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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I've got a couple questions regarding the optimized SETI Apps.
1. Does SETI condone these? If so, why don't they issue an optimized application to everyone who joins the project?
2. If the results aren't identical to the 'normal' application, doesn't this kind of pollute the stream?
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Configuring dual core dual processor (Message 248749)
Posted 16 Feb 2006 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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I'm confused as to whether you have one physical dual-core chip, or 2. If you have two, shouldn't you show 8 processors? Maybe you should enable hyperthreading as well? Or do you not have access to a version of windows that will allow 8 procs?


Just got home for the evening and I'm trying to digest all the feedback that's been left, especially the optimized SETI clients.

But, for now, I can answer your question: Two physical processors, dual core Xeon 3.4 GHz. Now, it is me not understanding you. Where do you get 8? 2x2=4 ... right?
Hyperthreading is enabled. OS is XP Pro 32 bit.
I've begun reading the article WinterKnight pointed me toward at http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/05/25/dothan_over_netburst/
It sure is discouraging. I just bought this PC about 3 months ago and it looks like I should've done a little more homework before chosing. Still, it runs rings aound my previous one.

Well, gotta get back to digesting all these good suggestions. Thanks to all.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Configuring dual core dual processor (Message 248434)
Posted 15 Feb 2006 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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Using 4 cpu's rather than two will usually show a small increase in processing time but because you are now doing four at once the throughput per day will be higher.


Thanks for the info. I did notice the projected time to completion per work unit increased by about 23%. But, running 4 at a time now instead of two. And, thanks for the info I can check into on the overheating issue.

Also, thanks for not hiding your computer information. I scoped out your best unit. How the heck does a 1.86 GHz unit do 3954.79 million ops/sec while a 3.4 GHz Xeon only does 1597.75? Ignoring the fact that I've got two processors onboard. Enlighten me, please. I wanna do better ; )
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Configuring dual core dual processor (Message 248430)
Posted 15 Feb 2006 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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I'd posted this to "Questions and problems: Preferences" about an hour ago, before I found this board and realized this is probably a more appropriate place for my questions. I apologize for the duplication. My original post was as follows ...
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I've been running BOINC on a dual core/dual processor (Xeon 3.4 Ghz) HP xw8200 for a few months now. When I originally configured the installation (AFAIK) BOINC figured out there were two physical processors. But, somewhere on my accounts page I saw that it recognized 4 processors, but was only configured to use 2 of them. I changed that setting to 4. Does this really make any difference in the amount of work I will accomplish? And, is it the right thing to do? I'm sitting here thinking that for the past three months I've only been using half of my crunching capability.
Also, I've seen numerous mentions elsewhere of problems with CPU overheating. I'm glad to see I have no evidence of this ... what are the symptoms?
Thanks in advance.
16) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Configuring dual core dual processor (Message 248418)
Posted 15 Feb 2006 by Profile Victor A. Wedge
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I've been running BOINC on a dual core/dual processor (Xeon 3.4 Ghz) HP xw8200 for a few months now. When I originally configured the installation (AFAIK) BOINC figured out there were two physical processors. But, somewhere on my accounts page I saw that it recognized 4 processors, but was only configured to use 2 of them. I changed that setting to 4. Does this really make any difference in the amount of work I will accomplish? And, is it the right thing to do? I'm sitting here thinking that for the past three months I've only been using half of my crunching capability.
Also, I've seen numerous mentions elsewhere of problems with CPU overheating. I'm glad to see I have no evidence of this ... what are the symptoms?
Thanks in advance.





 
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