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Team Recruitment Center :
You Tube movie Seti related !
(Message 642780)
Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Heflin Post: You cold freaks sure pick up a TON of workahead/cached-WUs! ;) As long as you get them completed before the deadline, I guess that's OK. The video is missing start of SETI@home & start of BOINC. Oh, and where is the green star?? Thanks for the friendly laugh :) |
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Number crunching :
unrecoverable error (- exit code -4 xxxxxx)
(Message 634993)
Posted 7 Sep 2007 by Heflin Post: I have one client that now seems to be consistently with ONLY SETI WUs not being able to finish. Unrecoverable error for result xxxxx ( - exit code -4 results Einstein@Home WUs don't seem to have any problem on that client. This is a diskless (no hard drive) client that has previously returned completed SETI WUs. I wonder if it is due to client having limited RAM (254.98 MB). I'll have to double check SETI requirments. Is this a problem/issue with my client or something on the SETI side ... that will be resolved with time. |
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Number crunching :
Quick Question?
(Message 632285)
Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Heflin Post: Enhanced APPS - If you change the program, alter the program, or delete/add portions to the software program that is 'crunching' the data collected by Team Seti...have you not again CHANGED the resulting data, which also makes the data collected from these machines USELESS since it is not a consistant, un-contaminated, controlled result? ALL data in ANY scientific study HAS to have a control factor that is un-disputable or ALL of the data collected is flawed and NOT VALID. I'd bet you $1 that for SETI (and probably all the other BOINC projects) IF the results of a WU are *very* interesting, then it will be RE-crunched independently and probably more than once. But what about the interesting WU that becuase of xxx the results do NOT reveal that it is interesting?? Hopefully, the quorum will (if not eliminate at least) minimize these occurances. |
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Number crunching :
Spotted on Usenet
(Message 632269)
Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Heflin Post: LOL! The fastest optimization is to ignore the procedure and just blind guess a result! |
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Number crunching :
Msattlers' "simple poll" BSing thread
(Message 630718)
Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Heflin Post: ...scientific poll... Now *THAT* is an oxymoron. I hate polls 'cause they are always skewed based on ... ...group asked ...group results are going to be shown to (who do you want to influence) ...method asked (phone, mail, forced, inperson, etc) ...specific LANGUAGE/format of question ...order of questions ...other questions asked ...CHOICE of RESPONSES (one choice should always be "What?") ...people who LIE on polls (like me!) ...people who submit responses more than once!!! |
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Number crunching :
Msattlers' "simple poll" BSing thread
(Message 630711)
Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Heflin Post: With regard to scoring issues: Credit??? Don't tell me BOINC's gonna affect my credit score. Now I'll never qualify for that loan! I run BOINC 'cause I can't figure how to turn it off!!! |
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Politics :
Bigotry in America
(Message 629183)
Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Heflin Post: 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.' So *that* is why Jesus never broke bread with or associated with people who sinned!!! |
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Number crunching :
work units
(Message 629177)
Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Heflin Post: how do i make it down load more jobs ? If you have always_on internet connection you don't need to download lots of jobs at once...Especially if you are attached to more than one project. On your PC that downloads 20 WUs at once, I'd suggest leaving the ‘connect about every X days’ and ‘additional work buffer Y days’ to either the default or set them to zero so you only download WUs when you are ready to process them. I keep all my machines pretty much only downloading 1 job per project (per core) and nearly never run out of work. Sure, there are the weekly or daily SETI outages and other internet outages, but that is part of the beauty of attaching to multiple projects. I am so SURPRISED(naive little me!) at how many WUs are downloaded and not returned. I would encourage the vast majority of folks to simply work on ONE WU per project. |
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Number crunching :
Credit for SETI Classic
(Message 629168)
Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Heflin Post: ... momento ... defunct ... Say it ain't so Joe! Memento, more like lovable battle scars. Defunct, not till I UNinstall it on that last machine in the corner!!! :) ;) Be proud. Classic workunit credit is a badge-of-honor that you were helping way back ..... |
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good bye
(Message 627644)
Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Heflin Post: Rick- Don't run sooo quick. Give us some details as to what your problem & setup are. I don't see any results from any of the 4 instances of the apparently single host. cross posts |
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Number crunching :
Big Zero.
(Message 624903)
Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Heflin Post: ...If you claim low, you WILL get what you claim! But you drag all the others down too (even the ones claiming the proper credits). Ignorant question: If the main issue is those older BOINC clients reporting/requesting ZERO credit for work done (non-FLOPS clients) [vice just lower credit], then what if the credit averaging/normalizing routine were modified to ignore the non-FLOPS ZERO credit request/report and use just the single (or other if more than 2) FLOPS client non-zero credit request? This is not for the 'claim low', but for the 'claim ZERO'. |
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SETI@home Staff Blog :
Donations to Help Keep Seti Alive
(Message 615827)
Posted 6 Aug 2007 by Heflin Post: 20 bucks. 123.45 US Dollars. I don't know what the current 'bucks' to 'dollars' conversion rate is! Still wishing upon a star ... [edit]Hey there it is!!! I just refound the [url=http://store.setiathome-store.com/]SETI store.[/ulr] They seem to be out of hardware (pens, pointers, etc) which probably have a low profit/donation margin. They do have clothing. I'll get a couple to give to folks who have allowed me to setup BOINC on their machines. |
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Number crunching :
Cancelled by project question
(Message 615758)
Posted 6 Aug 2007 by Heflin Post: I'd *strongly* suggest that additional (above quorum needs) WUs *not* be sent till after reporting deadline. We've both been around since 1999. Since I don't have speakers on my PCs (& disable the internal speaker), I couldn't "hear" the children screaming. :) :) I know we cannot please everyone, but I *think* what OzzFan is asking is: how can we make OLDER and SLOWER CPUs still do useful science. Hopefully, the vast majority of participants using older machines (and continuing to return WUs) are not terribly upset when granting credit is delayed. Consistently returning WUs after quorum has already been reached is NOT useful. I always kindof chuckle at folks who are running with LARGE caches of WUs, and then complain about delays in getting credit and lots of other issues. Since most machines have always on internet access, I pretty much run with the defaults so the machines FINISH a WU before they request more work. This was a problem during SETI@Home, but now with BOINC I just attach to multiple projects. If one project is down, the machine will work on other projects...NO BIG DEAL! Ned Ludd said it so well I may add a link to this post in my signature!! : "Remember that SETI is an experiment to search for ET. BOINC is an experiment to learn about (and develop) volunteer computing. We're participating in both." |
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Cancelled by project question
(Message 615214)
Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Heflin Post: Again, in summary, it has been my observation that this new 'feature' has obsoleted any slower machines that can't get their results back before the second person does, thus negating any useful, scientific reason to keep crunching with them. I gotta agree with the surprised folks -- I guess I'm surprised too!! Sending out more copies, than needed for Quorum, of a WU **BEFORE** the deadline for returning the specific WU seems just wasteful. Even if this has been happening for a long time. I see NO advantage to sending more than the quorum needs immediately. IF this is really a feature of SETI and not other projects, I'd be more inclined to have my slower machines not run SETI. I'd *strongly* suggest that additional (above quorum needs) WUs *not* be sent till after reporting deadline. This seems to be a 'no brainer'. No where in this thread have I read a REASONABLE rational for sending more than the quorum needs. Even if 25% of WUs have late or bad results, that still means that still means that 3/12 = 25% of processing time is being wasted. Maybe trailers should only be sent to faster machines. & it could be only faster machines that have very very small caches so they get turned around immediately. This doesn't seem like it would be very hard to implement. Maybe slower machines should always be the first of the quorum to be given a WU. This too wouldn't be hard to implement, though it would mean a lot more WUs will be out at one time. These two features would help satisfy the 'instant gratification' folks too. |
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Boinc not suspending Under Vista
(Message 601845)
Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Heflin Post: Just to be clear...any frustration expressed is NOT directed at BOINC/seti/etc nor even at the MS programmers; rather, it is at the MS advertisers who continually claim full compatibility. Or just venting after a day of trying to figure out lots of things on another persons' Vista machine :) like Vista not allowing an Administrator with full rights to change the name of a system file (by limiting rights to even CHANGE persmissions on some files) even though Help says Administrator rights can do anything :*# I have read thru the BOINC forum posts & will monitor there for final solutions. I don't want to run a non-final version of BOINC on a machine I only get to a few times a year. Thanks. I have the EXACT same situation...and the EXACT same problem. |
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Boinc not suspending Under Vista
(Message 601656)
Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Heflin Post: I have the EXACT same situation...and the EXACT same problem. None of my other machines have this issue, but this is the first Vista (crowd groans in the background). I've double-double checked that the location of the client (school) is being picked up by the client & the profile properly says NO work when busy. I had, after many many attempts, finally convinced the owner to run BOINC on their brand new Vista machine promissing that BOINC would suspend when they were using their computer. Well, I've been made a liar. I have had to 100% disable that particular client because of this issue. Could it be because we (Shane & I) are running BOINC as a service? Shane posted this 16 days ago, and still no response? |
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Cafe SETI :
The GREEN STAR
(Message 599474)
Posted 6 Jul 2007 by Heflin Post: Can I request a certian number of points on my star 'cause a 5 pointed star conjures up some bad history ;) Wonder when my star is gonna show up. Web donated 8 Jun 07. |
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Number crunching :
Automatic distribution of optimized apps
(Message 599473)
Posted 6 Jul 2007 by Heflin Post: ...with great power comes great responsibility? ;o) Purrfect! I don't mind (actually like) updating apps. Some folks may only check forums 1x per week or may be out of town for 3-4 weeksso may not immediately find out an app needs to be updated. Simple e-mail notification is great! |
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Technical News :
Merday Morn (Jun 11 2007)
(Message 599471)
Posted 6 Jul 2007 by Heflin Post: Isn't there more than ONE connection/arrow between 'BOINC Client' and 'Project Servers'? ...requesting work ...handing out work (downloading) ...receiving work (uploading) ...reporting work completed ...etc Hope this is better... |
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Unix/Linux :
CPU limited to 50%
(Message 597773)
Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Heflin Post: Can you please verify your prefs (open a shell/terminal, cd to the BOINC directory and do a "grep limit global*xml"). BOINCView showed me that one machine was CPU limited to 40% vice the 75% intended. Configs on all web sites were fine. Your hint, led me to check my global_prefs.xml which was fine. However, in global_prefs_override.xml it was set to 40 vice 75. I'm on MS2K vice Un*x. I do have vi editor ya!! But don't have grep on this MS-slave so it took a few more steps plus lots more mouse work than a Un*x shell requires to find and change value! How did I get into the Unix/Linix message board? Quick, get me back to my MS cult family ;) LOL signed, former Un*x & VMS freedom fighter current MS slave :( |
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