21) Message boards : Number crunching : How to delete old workunits (Message 181179) Posted 22 Oct 2005 by Karl Roos Post: So far, after six hours and several cycles of workunits, some of the machines have fresh work cached, some are running with only one "current" unit and the "aborted" ones still showing on the work tab, and one is sitting there with no work to do only "aborted" units showing. Does it just take a long time for the work to be refreshed, or is the installation borked on some of these machines? I'm wondering if I detach and reattach to the project if the clients will "clear" themselves and refresh their cache of work with fresh units?

22) Message boards : Number crunching : How to delete old workunits (Message 181052) Posted 22 Oct 2005 by Karl Roos Post: I started up a couple computers that had been turned off for a number of weeks. The workunits they had cached were past their "report deadline" and I noticed I was getting 0 credit for completing the "expired" work. How do I get rid of these expired units and get the software to download some fresh ones? If I "suspend" the expired units the program just seems to stop, won't download new ones. I also tried deleting the work unit data files in a "project" directory, that didn't seem to work either.

23) Message boards : Number crunching : **THREAD CLOSED, THREAD CLOSED** (Message 177509) Posted 13 Oct 2005 by Karl Roos Post: Good thing they worked out the bugs when migrating from Classic.

24) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Popularity vs Classic SETI@Home (Message 176634) Posted 11 Oct 2005 by Karl Roos Post: Sure is easy to stir up this hive!

25) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Popularity vs Classic SETI@Home (Message 176403) Posted 10 Oct 2005 by Karl Roos Post: How many of the PC's crunching BOINC projects would have to be left "on" 24/7 if they were not being used for distributed computing projects? Virtually none. That is why its appropriate to question the amount of resources expended on these projects. I would guess that the majority of computers being used for BOINC projects average only a couple hours a day of "regular" computer use - some more than others, but there are many machines out there that do nothing but DC. The only PC's that really have to be on 24/7 are servers and gateways...how many of you can say your computers would have to be "on" all the time if not for DC?

26) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Popularity vs Classic SETI@Home (Message 176374) Posted 10 Oct 2005 by Karl Roos Post: When Classic stopped accepting new accounts they had about 5.5 million users. What do you suppose was the total amount of energy used to crunch the 2 billion Classic work units that were done prior to last September? If the most beneficial results of that expense of non-renewable energy was a few "interesting" locations and results, I say it was a waste of valuable resources. I believe in the distributed computing concept, and have supported it myself with significant financial and time investment. But I have to question whether the cost vs benefit of the projects developed to date really justifies their continuation. I'm not trying to be confrontational, in fact I am really rather sad about reaching this conclusion regarding Seti@Home. I understand that finding verifiable signals was always a long shot.......both because the project was looking at very narrow regions of space and because we may have had our "radio" tuned in to the wrong "frequency" (I realize this is oversimplification but you know what I mean). With respect to S@H in particular, does this "long shot" really justify the expenditure of the very limited resources our earth posesses? And are we really meant to discover these extraterrestrial signals at all?

27) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Popularity vs Classic SETI@Home (Message 176235) Posted 10 Oct 2005 by Karl Roos Post: For a variety of reasons, not the least of which is the obscure and unpredictable "credit" system, this new BOINC based S@H will never enjoy the popular support that Classic did. Personally, I have decided its not worth paying for all the killowatt hours to run the computers to do the work. After all these years of cruchning, all the energy and CPU cycles expended, it would be a stretch to say that ANY worthwhile results have been obtained from the project. I am discouraged and disappointed on both these fronts. I did enjoy running classic for about 4.5 years, and had as many as 25 computers crunching. I liked the 3rd party software support, I used Seti Driver and SetiQueue. I enjoyed pushing the computers, trying to maximize my results and stats. This new system is just too fussy and obscure. Flame out.

28) Message boards : Number crunching : Zero Credit for Sucessful Work? (Message 173059) Posted 30 Sep 2005 by Karl Roos Post: I sure seemed to see a slug of them at once there. Thought this bit from the wiki error message explanations regarding the -9 error was interesting: This message means that more data was generated than there was storage space assigned to recieve the data. The most common cause for this message is RFI or Radio Frequency Interference.

29) Message boards : Number crunching : Zero Credit for Sucessful Work? (Message 172966) Posted 30 Sep 2005 by Karl Roos Post: Thanks, everyone for all the informative replies. I should have done my homework better before starting the thread. I'm going to try a different client or two on the system that's returning the invalid results, see if that helps. I'd blame it on being an Intel CPU (LOL), but then there is one other system with a P4 doing fine with the same client.

30) Message boards : Number crunching : Zero Credit for Sucessful Work? (Message 172794) Posted 29 Sep 2005 by Karl Roos Post: I've noticed on a couple of my computers that they often complete work units, pending credit is shown as 13-16, but granted credit is shown as zero. Any clues as to why that might be? Between the delays in granting "credit" and the obscure "brownie point" nature of the scoring system, I'm really missing the more stratightforward, responsive and comprehensible system used in seti@home classic.

31) Message boards : Number crunching : Computer Ranking in Computer Stats (Message 171494) Posted 24 Sep 2005 by Karl Roos Post: What I would like to see is the ability to sort your list of computers by most recent workunit, RAC, or total credit. And to be able to search the list of top users, groups, etc. for a specific user.

32) Message boards : Number crunching : Computer Ranking in Computer Stats (Message 170478) Posted 21 Sep 2005 by Karl Roos Post: When I look at the list of computers linked to may of the forum users the statistics list a "rank" for each of the users computers, and list them in the order of this rank. My list of computers doesn't show this rank. So I have 2 questions.....how do you turn on the rank statistic, and what is it based on? The rankings don't seem to be in order of total credits or recent average credit.

33) Message boards : Number crunching : Stalled Client & Stalled Workunits (Message 169029) Posted 17 Sep 2005 by Karl Roos Post: It might be better if you Identify which computer it is, so that people with similar cpu/os might be able to help, also say which BOINC version is running and which Seti client, especially if you are running optimised version. Andy Its an AMD FX-55 CPU running on Asus A8N-Sli DLX motherboard.....BOINC version 4.45, optimized client version 4.11 (YAOSCW-W-r7) running on Windows XP Pro SP2. I've been using the 4.11 YAOSCW-W-r8.1 client this afternoon and it seems to be running with no problems. Maybe the other client had a particular issue with this hardware.....I have an almost identical system at work - same CPU and motherboard chipset - and it has been running the YAOSCW-W-r7 optimized client for 5 days with no issues. Thanks.

34) Message boards : Number crunching : Stalled Client & Stalled Workunits (Message 168864) Posted 17 Sep 2005 by Karl Roos Post: I have one computer that periodically "stalls" where it stops doing work, CPU goes to 0%, and if you open the Boinc manager it doesn't show a project attached or any workunits downloaded. On one or two of the other computers I've noticed the CPU at 0% once or twice, where a workunit is "in-progress" but stopped and not being completed. If I "suspend" the unit, and then "resume" it seems to pick back up and finish. Is this typical behavior for Seti Boinc? I only switched over from Classic Seti this week, so I'm new to it. On the machine that stalls I assumed needed to back off the overclock, but that didn't seem to help. I am running optimized clients, maybe will try the standard client but optomized is way faster.

35) Questions and Answers : Windows : Searching Statistics (Message 168173) Posted 15 Sep 2005 by Karl Roos Post: Is there any way to search the participants list for a specific user name? I see where you can sort the participant list by total credits or recent average credit, but are there any other ways to manipulate the database/display?

36) Message boards : Number crunching : Closed*** SETI/BOINC Milestones (TM) III ***Closed (Message 167210) Posted 13 Sep 2005 by Karl Roos Post: 100,000! Woop woop! OK

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