Posts by ror

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Lost WUs - detaching & (re) attaching to BOINC ??? (Message 5418)
Posted 8 Jul 2004 by Profile ror
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Yeah detaching is catastrophic, and bad advice, it completely destroys your project directory, leaving you to download the client again, and a load of new WUs and reassigns your computer to a new host ID.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Multiple projects in BOINC (Message 3832)
Posted 3 Jul 2004 by Profile ror
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it doesn't handle it well, I have a 1:100 split pah:sah but my cache still gets filled up with pah ;/ (indeed now to the point where seti has run dry and can't refil).

Some of that might be due to seti downtime tho
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Screensaver Appearance (Message 3615)
Posted 3 Jul 2004 by Profile ror
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> Of course.... previewing the different possibilities seems a little
> cumbersome, due to the "brilliant" choice to use a web interface.... but I
> won't complain about that for the time being.
>
> //Ryan

Please do.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Screensaver Appearance (Message 3501)
Posted 2 Jul 2004 by Profile ror
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I agree on the distracting 3D graphics. Take also for example the disk usage pie charts. They are *pointlessly* 3D, there ins't a third axis or anything, and pie charts are easier to read in 2D, but they are displayed in 3D too.

5) Message boards : Number crunching : Get Guido Gone (Message 2914)
Posted 30 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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Darren, most "commercial" forums have options that users can set to ignore images/sigs on the forum, that's what I was referring to.

But with a name change, and the reduced forum format buggering I don't mind guido. Yes it hurts my 56k but it was the name that was annoying me with all the underscores ;)

Innapropriate, well I guess they do generally get to the point.

:-*
6) Message boards : Number crunching : boinc/sah wishlist (Message 2913)
Posted 30 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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On the logging front, I meant for it to be optional, although I've never known logs to get too big compared to the rest of the system. A year or so of IRC logs only come to a few megs for the channels I'm in, so I can't see BOINC getting much bigger than that, and what's a couple of megs out of your space? Boinc could even start hacking off the end of the log when it got too big (afterall, as seen from the disk tab, BOINC does keep tabs on what space etc it's using).
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Get Guido Gone (Message 2893)
Posted 30 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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Darren, feel free to point out where the forum "control panel" is because I still can't find anywhere to disable sigs and images.

And I'm NOT disabling images from my entire browser just because Guido likes to paste a lot of innappropriate images all over the place.

If I could do it on a site-by-site basis then yes, I'd block images on this site, but I can't.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : @Berkeley Team_STOP THE PROJECT at this time to much Error in all Things (Message 2892)
Posted 30 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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"- information policy ist more than bad. The last news dated from June 27"

That's THREE days ago, we're getting pretty much constant feedback/news whilst the site is actually running. Check the RSS, most days when there were problems it was updated more than once a day.

Compare this to the old SETI that would go months without news...
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Changes you would like to see in next updt of BOINC (Message 2802)
Posted 30 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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Graham - do you know of any similar thing to disable network access?
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Changes you would like to see in next updt of BOINC (Message 2773)
Posted 30 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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Thanks Graham
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Changes you would like to see in next updt of BOINC (Message 2625)
Posted 29 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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Yes it does seem to store the window position. (indeed if you look in boinc.ini they are there).

from my boinc.ini:

[WINDOW]
xposition=367
yposition=235
width=721
height=505
selection=1


MK - what is your "selection" setting? Perhaps that is what controls the opening state?
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Changes you would like to see in next updt of BOINC (Message 2603)
Posted 29 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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> > 1. Minimize on startup ;)
> > 2. BOINC should remember window position and sizes
>
> It does start minimized for me everytime. In case it does not so for you, try
> the following:
> Rightclick your boinc icon in the Startmenue (start up)
> Select Properties
> run (select minimized here)
> ok
>

But minimized isn't in the systray, and still shows up on the taskbar. What Nuwanda really wants here I think (as do I want) is it to start in "Hide" mode, i.e. only in the systray.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : boinc/sah wishlist (Message 2434)
Posted 29 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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With the "real" wishlist forum, it doesn't order in the right order, and generally doesnt seem the right place to have a discussion of features, which is more what I want.

First things first: Boinc is sexy.

Secondly: onto the "serious" stuff (or rather the reason for my post). I've been collecting my thoughts on BOINC/SAH whilst the website has been down, just a "wishlist" of things I'd like to see in BOINC/SAH.

This all applies to win32 boinc GUI, and associated seti project because that's what I've been using.

boinc wishlist

Be able to disable net from right clicking systray icon.

Be able to set "priority" for projects not just CPU share.
explain/example: I want to run SETI all the time on my CPU. However there are times that WUs won't always be available. I want therefore to have a "backup" in predictor in case seti goes down. I want therefore to have predictor downloaded and setup ready, then start processing WUs if I run out of SETI wus. However, at the moment, the predictor WUs will fill the cache, and seti (well boinc really) won't ask for more Wus, because BOINC won't be below the low-water mark, even when I finish processing SETI wus, because there will be predictor WUs. EVen if I set my SETI resource share to 1000 and my predictor to 1, all that will happen is that I finish SETI Wus first and even if SETI is working perfectly I'll start processing predictor, which isn't what I want.

Different "cache size" for different projects: At the moment there are only global settings, so if I want 5 days SETI cache I'm forced to have a 5 day cache for all projects, and indeed all projects "fight" over filling that cache.

To be able to "halt" a project without dettaching it. [which deletes the crunching client, WUs and indeed loses your "hostID"]

More "client side" options, so boinc is more configurable from the client end, without relying on a website (I have a personal feud against web-based interfaces) to change program configurations. I don't want to have to go to a website just to tell my own computer not to try and connect to the net. It seems absurd to me that I have to have web to be able to change how a program on my computer works.

More "host" options, rather than having options such as "work/school/home", why not have a separate set of options under each computer/host.

Better logging - a /logs/ for complete stdout and stderr history, not just having the current and previous logged.

More program options, why shouldn't I be able to deselect the "disk" tab, I don't particulary care about how many gigs I have left, or rather I do, but I don't use boinc to check that.

[Option to] Minimize to systray, not just close to.

Better README! The README distributed with BOINC is pathetic.

Clearer interface:
"Attach to project" isn't so much a setting, it's a major feature. And why are attach and detach in completely different and unassociated places.
"run based on preferences" - what preferences where?

Ability to set/re-set "startup with windows"; which seems only to be an option when installed - why not later?

Better "security". Your account 'validator' is stored in a plain-text file for "anyone" to read. Whilst I understand these passwords aren't [supposed to be] secure a little privacy wouldn't go unnoticed.

Being able to download BOINC from the BOINC page, at the moment you can only get it via the SETI boinc project page. (apart from the CVS).

How is reporting bitrate to a MILLIONTH of a byte/sec useful when it says itself "approximate throughput". It's a waste of logging space when the figures are not that accurate.

"News" tab, hooking into the RSS feeds for BOINC and the installed projects.

Seti wishlist

Stats to be sorted by total cobblestones not RAC. (RAC has been highly dubious [more RAC than total is common early on], and will always be a "faked" statistic, whereas total cobblestones is very obvious what it is, and should naturally be the choice of how to rank)

Easier browsing of WUs from pending credit screen. [right now the pendnig credit pages have gone, I assume to reduce server load?] At the moment to get the data about a WU from pending stats page, you have to go via the "result" page, which can be tedious.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Too much WU caching for seti boys? (Message 2319)
Posted 26 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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No, you have set it up right.

They're just genuinely out of WUs atm :(
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Too much WU caching for seti boys? (Message 2312)
Posted 26 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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> Lots of people are complaining about not getting enough WU's (my case as
> well). My question is this: is there a limit for the number of WU's I can
> download? Is it possible for 2 or 3 users to request work from seti that would
> last for 100 days

That wouldn't be helpful to them anyway, results "expire" in around 2 weeks anyway.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : collecting benchmarks (Message 2173)
Posted 25 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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> (most common: one that can execute
> code based on the local computer zone even if it's a web page on the
> internet).

Yeah, that's more of a "family" of vulnerabilities since the way it's actually acheieved ranges from exlpoiting the "media" explorer bar to pasting dodgy "fake" jpgs etc.

But I would use firefox except that it doesn't do the one thing I like that IE does and no other does, have those security zones. I want to be able to globally disable stuff like jscript and flash, but that causes some sites I need (such as banking) to not work, so I need to be able to differentiate with a list the sites I want to "trust".

Firefox can easily globally disable jscript but not in a way I can 'transparently' allow other sites to use it. (I'd have to toggle it on/off every time I visited).

When firefox has this I shall go back to firefox (I've used it for several months before and really liked it, especially the ability to open new windows maximised (which IE can't do at ALL (before anyone says otherwise, I mean properly maximised not dragged to cover most the screen)) and other features).

I'm not one to worry about security, but 99% of exploits actually are put into motion via jscript (or other activeX), being used to open your explorer bar or whatever and the remaining few I've never known to affect me.

===

Back on topic, is there any way this site could automatically "harvest" the info it needs from the SETI stats pages after we tell them our HOST ID. (effectively giving them permission), or would that be too hard/need to much "other end" power (which I'm guessing a simple web-host can't do?)
17) Message boards : Number crunching : collecting benchmarks (Message 2127)
Posted 25 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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> And how do we submit our marks? Nothing shows up in my (standards-compliant)
> Mozilla Firebird 0.9 browser...please don't tell me you used some gay IE only
> code that doesn't show up in real browsers! I could rant on that for days ;).
>
>

Works in my "jscript disabled/activeX disabled/fonts/colors/styles/everything you can think of disabled" IE so chances are the server maybe flipped, try a hard refresh ;)
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Whoohoo! Validator on atlast... (Message 2058)
Posted 25 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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> Someone correct me if I'm wrong but to get credit I think three people need to
> process the same WU and come up with similiar results. I don't think there is
> a process on the server doing this.
>
>

There is also a validator that has to check the 3 results are the same, hand out credit etc, although it's been online for a while now.

p.s. sorry if this is a double-post, I got disconnected whilst sending it the first time.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : how to rename executable of seti in boinc??? (Message 2048)
Posted 25 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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won't notice something taking all the CPU? :/

Besides, if it's only using otherwise idle CPU time why would he get pissed? Can't you just explain what it is?
20) Message boards : Number crunching : After 24 hours of waiting, my first WU returned (Message 1968)
Posted 25 Jun 2004 by Profile ror
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Assume the CPU time is correct, that means that your computer is 80% idling, probably because of SETI not crunching when it should be.

I'd suggest watching task manager for 5-10 minutes and sort by CPU usage and watch what happens as you leave it and/or you do stuff.


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