Posts by MJKelleher

41) Message boards : Number crunching : Front page news - outage (Message 283897) Posted 18 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: April 17, 2006 Our regular Wednesday maintenance outage has been moved to Tuesdays beginning this week. We're doing this to accomodate a number of scheduling conflicts that prevented all of the engineers from being available during the outages. MJ
42) Message boards : Number crunching : Client Error (Message 283230) Posted 16 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: this is one of your errored wus. none of the other users got this and one user has even crunched and returned it. you might want to abort these, they're already listed as errored out, and the transitioner has even queued up another copy for release. The weird thing about these is that they're not red-lined, and the client state still shows as "New" instead of either "Downloading" or "Computing", which is what I'd expect for an errored out result. Maybe it can't figure out what kind of error it is? Looking into the results too, Client state is "New", exit status is 0(0x0), Validate state is still "Initial" and there's no application version. All these (and a couple others I didn't list) are normal for unreturned results. I'd be curious to know what happens if you do return one of these. oops, too late.... I think it's a mystery for the devs to look at. MJ
43) Message boards : Number crunching : Reset Project? and problem (Message 283072) Posted 16 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: Is there another reason why I should lower my cache? Maybe it's not what I'm thinking You might think about reducing your cache to 5-7 days. As you can see, if there's a delay or problem in returning work, you can easily go past the deadline, and lose credit for the work you've done. how do i get the Maximum daily WU quota back up? Start returning good work. For every successful result returned, your quota will double. It goes back up a lot faster than it dropped. MJ
44) Message boards : Number crunching : Please sign petition to accept BOINC XHTML changes (Message 282412) Posted 15 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: On a whim, I submitted the home page to the W3C Markup Validation Service. It miserably failed even the HTML 4.01 Transitional standards, never mind the XHTML. The initial error is that the page doesn't even tell what version of HTML it's using, so a browser can interpret it correctly. I copied this from the FAQ: Why should I validate my HTML pages? One of the important maxims of computer programming is: Be conservative in what you produce; be liberal in what you accept. Browsers follow the second half of this maxim by accepting Web pages and trying to display them even if they're not legal HTML. Usually this means that the browser will try to make educated guesses about what you probably meant. The problem is that different browsers (or even different versions of the same browser) will make different guesses about the same illegal construct; worse, if your HTML is really pathological, the browser could get hopelessly confused and produce a mangled mess, or even crash. That's why you want to follow the first half of the maxim by making sure your pages are legal HTML. The best way to do that is by running your documents through one or more HTML validators. A lengthier answer to this question is also available on this site if the explanation above did not satisfy you. [edit]to fix my own dratted code! lol[/edit] MJ
45) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CLOSED (Message 281593) Posted 14 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: Message 281590 - Posted 14 Apr 2006 4:08:19 UTC This post has been filtered (rating: 0) and the user is on your ignore list, press here to view this thread without filtering
46) Questions and Answers : Windows : Can't upload on BOINC (Message 281591) Posted 14 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: Would you please copy the last 20 or so entries from the Messages tab and paste them into a reply here? By preference, don't include a time frame where you're manually trying to get them to upload, it's often more useful to see what BOINC itself is trying to do and how. MJ
47) Questions and Answers : Web site : Waiting on credit (Message 281589) Posted 14 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: I can't figure out how to unhide my computer can you help? You would go to Your Account (link at the top of every page on the site), then click on the "View or Edit" for SETI@Home Preferences. In there, find the "Edit SETI@Home Preferences" link and click that. Towards the bottom of the page you'll find the question "Should SETI@home show your computers on its web site?" Change the button for the answer from No to Yes, and click the Update Preferences button. You can look at your own result and find your own answer about your original question. If you click on the Work Unit number, it'll show you that while four copies of the work have been sent out, only two have been reported back. Until a third comes in, the work won't be validated. If neither of the two remaining successfully report the work, another copy will be sent out. It may take some time, but eventually the work should get validated. MJ
48) Message boards : Number crunching : Front page news - outage (Message 279643) Posted 11 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: April 10, 2006 We're going to have a four hour server outage tomorrow (Tuesday) starting at 17:00 UTC for hardware configuration. This is in addition to our normal weekly outage on Wednesday for database maintenance. Data servers and some web pages will be offline during these times. MJ
49) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI/BOINC MilestonesÃ¢â€žÂ¢ VI -- Closed (Message 278031) Posted 8 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: Credits granted in Chess960 and Xtremelab. If Xtremelab comes out with a Windows client there will be a lot more credit. :) My first Xtremelab credit appeared also (well sortof, it was 0.98 credits for one 10 minute result!) And it is indeed from a Windows client. 8-) And, approaching 30,000 SETI cobblestones, and have gone over 2,000 messages posted here. =8-0 MJ
50) Questions and Answers : Wish list : I want to analyze faster! Are there CPU specific binaries... (Message 277309) Posted 7 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: Addressing just two of your items: 2= the SETI backend needs to be able to handle keeping the clients busy. SETI has no requirement to keep all the self-selected hosts busy. They need to have processed what work they feel they need done. With Classic SETI@Home, they kept computers busy by re-issuing work for no new science value. That's not going to happen here. The back end needs to be able to process the return of work that they have sent out. It's borderline for that. 1= who's the Congressman / Senator / whatever I have to lean on to use my tax $$$$ better with Arecibo and SETI? There's no "tax $$$$ better" issue concerning SETI, because there's no tax money for SETI. Period. Hasn't been for years, think Sen. Proxmire's Golden Fleece award. And with the current economy and political situations, I don't see any government money for SETI in the future, either. MJ
51) Message boards : Number crunching : Why let LHC@HOME take over? (Message 277231) Posted 7 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: They decided that their project is more important than the others so they set an arbitrary short due date to lock others out and hog the cycles. I guess it's because they are "special" and "important". No, they set their short due date because they've got engineers and scientists waiting in real-time for the results of the work. That's not the case here, where if it takes an extra week for work to come back, nobody's hanging on those results to go forword with their work. S@H and E@H are projects where we're looking for something that (hopefully) has been there for a long time, and will continue to be there, we just want to find it. LHC is designing a new collider, and they need to have a good idea that it'll work before they start construction. This is what LTD is for ... so that one project gets the time it needs to complete its work within deadline, and then won't download more work until that time has been paid back to the other projects that waited. If that's not what you want to see, then LHC isn't a project for you. You got work??? I think I need to visit the Sulking thread, I haven't seen any in weeks..... MJ
52) Questions and Answers : Web site : No download (Message 276574) Posted 6 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: Could you copy the last 20 or so entries from your messages tab and paste them into a reply here? That would give us the complete errors BOINC is seeing, and let us know what it's trying to do. It would be helpful if you don't use the update button for a while, and use messages for that period, so we see just what BOINC is doing on its own. MJ
53) Questions and Answers : Windows : Can you run Running SETI@home and Folding@home at the same time? (Message 276571) Posted 6 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: Folding@Home doesn't appear to use BOINC, so if you tried to run both of them, they'd be competing with each other for CPU time. I don't know the priority that F@H runs on, but odds are BOINC and SETI@Home would take a back seat, and rarely get any time. MJ
54) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Not requesting new work. (Message 276562) Posted 6 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: Are you attached to any other projects? To give us a bit more to go on, please do the following: shut down BOINC completely, then start it up again. Go to the messages tab, copy all the entries there (there shouldn't be more than 15-20 lines) and paste them into a reply here. That'll give us a better idea of what BOINC is trying to do, and what it's working with. MJ
55) Message boards : Number crunching : Missing Completed Result Records (Message 274713) Posted 3 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: thanks... I hope this gets corrected soon because we're losing CPU time spent data records needed for justifying the reasons why systems are kept powered on. The ultimate reasoning is that the lesser anyone is able to prove time spent, for some people running SETI, all their systems will be shut down. That includes me with only 2 systems and other silent people with a few hundred other systems... :) Have you thought of using one of the programs that will log your work locally? BOINCView and BOINCLogX are two I've read discussed positively. Though it's not working right this minute, there's a page of BOINC add-on software which might give you what you need. MJ
56) Message boards : Number crunching : Missing Completed Result Records (Message 274702) Posted 3 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: From the Technical News page: March 30, 2006 - 22:30 UTC Okay. We seem to be out of the woods for now. We vastly reduced the size of the result table in the BOINC database. How? By clearing out the results-to-delete queue, and by cranking up db_purge so that it removes all results from the database as soon as they are deleted from disk. Under normal circumstances we keep at least a days' worth of old result rows around so participants can see those recently finished in their personal lists. Over the weekend we'll keep this clamped down for observational and catch-up purposes. Next week we might relax the db_purge parameters to allow completed result rows to linger like before. MJ
57) Questions and Answers : Preferences : How do i clear the messages window ? (Message 274631) Posted 3 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: The only way I've seen is to shut down BOINC and restart. Why do you want to clear it? MJ
58) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cannot get new work (Message 274590) Posted 2 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: OK guys... i am really getting pissed off... i am still waitting to get something.... everybody here is saying to me to be patient, but noone can understand that when i am writing the problem i have, i allready check the serves... they are working perfectly since the 31 of March accoirding to the technical news... i am also checking every 3-4 hours the server state, and since the 1 of April it hasn't drop down the 300,000 units available to send out....!!! Step One - chill out. 8-) Step Two - to give us something specific to work from, go to the Messages tab, copy the last 20 or so messages from there and paste them into a reply here. That'll give us what exactly BOINC thinks it's doing. It will be better if you don't use a period where you're hitting the update key, or doing other actions that give you a "4/2/2006 6:36:58 PM\|\|request_reschedule_cpus: project op" message, just what BOINC is doing on its own. Step Three - We might be able to see more about what's going on if you don't have your computers hidden. There's no critical information about you or your computers visible to the public, you can look at mine to see what I would be able to see about yours. But we would be able to see what (if any} results have been uploaded, returned, valid, invalid... MJ
59) Questions and Answers : Web site : Missing user on Team Page (Message 274520) Posted 2 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: It must just not be visible for you for some reason. Here is what I see: I had seen the same thing as John shortly after he first posted, but didn't have an answer to it. Either it's been fixed, or it was just a matter of the timing of updates to that table. Whichever, he now shows up both ways. MJ
60) Questions and Answers : Preferences : This new Boinc sucks!!!! (Message 274425) Posted 2 Apr 2006 by MJKelleher Post: I left it alone, and the settings updated. It now is working perfectly and without wobble. Thanks for your help. You're very welcome, I'm glad we could get you straightened out. MJ

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