Posts by Cliff Harding

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1907747)
Posted 17 Dec 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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I thought Internet Exploder went away with 10?


Thank GOD, it's still hanging around as Win 10 will install both (backward compatability). I use PC Matic as my anit-virus software and when I go to their website I can't use some of the tools using Edge, so IE 11 comes in very handy. I also have a problem with my HP 6968 Officejet Pro printer not being able to print interent pages, so I use IE for that also.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1906695)
Posted 13 Dec 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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The December 2017 update corrupted one or more of the databases concerning system updates that my machine has become non-effective. The corruption(s) cannot be fixed via the 'Troubleshooter', and it can take from 1- 3 hrs. to recycle the machine. Even the system restore, prior to the initial update attempt did not work correctly as it recycled the machine @ 00:15 this morning, and at 02:30 it was still attempting to shutdown, but was up this morning when I signed op at 08:20.

I will be off-line for at least 24 hrs, as I attempt to do a complete clean re-install of the system.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : use 2 out of 3 GPU (Message 1901371)
Posted 16 Nov 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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Michel -
Insert the appropriate one in your cc_comfig.xml

<ignore_intel_dev>N</ignore_intel_dev> or <ignore_nvidia_dev>N</ignore_nvidia_dev>. Subsitute "N" with the device #, which you can get from the beginning of your event log.

On the other hand, I see that you have an i7/4770K, go into your bios and select the iGPU for your primary monitor and recycle the machine and insert this instead <ignore_intel_dev>N</ignore_intel_dev>. That way you can use your monitor for just about everything unless you're also a gamer. Hey MOM, I now have 3 x 1070s crunching.

I've used the internal iGPU on both my 4770k & 7770K and have no problems with movies, simple games, etc. with no lagging. You might have to adjust your CPU % a bit and you might lose those tasks that were assigned to the iGPU , but everything should work out.
4) Message boards : News : Database slowness (Message 1900490)
Posted 11 Nov 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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Eric - Thanks for the update. I don't know if this makes any difference in your troubleshooting, but I haven't gotten an CPU tasks for several hours, in fact I'm down to 17 from 100.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1897737)
Posted 27 Oct 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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I've been running the Lunatics 0.45 beta SoG for a couple of weeks and am still having mouse and keyboard lag and especially streaming or playback video problems(framing). Can anybody suggest an alteration that will reduce or eliminate the problem?

Here's the command line:

-tt 1500 -hp -period_iterations_num 8 -high_perf -high_prec_timer -sbs 1024 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64 -use_sleep


My only alternative now is shutting boinc down when using other programs, and then I forget to restart it.

Thanks.



Reading some of the posts it seems that some are still using their iGPUs for processing tasks. Your machines have an iGPU, why don't you do what I have done. First, go into your bios and set the iGPU as the primary for your monitor(s), then set <ignore_intel_dev>0</ignore_intel_dev> in your cc_config.xml and re-start BOINC or re-read the cc_config.xml. Even though you may lose a few tasks that may have been assigned to the iGPU, all of your lagging problems go away. Depending on what your "use at most % of you CPUs" is, you may be able to increase it. Unless you're playing GPU intensive games or video editing, the iGPU will function quite nicely for just about everything else, freeing up more resources to BOINC.

[edit] BTW, are you using 1 CPU or .5 CPU per GPU tasks?]
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Is graphics card memory size important for crunching? (Message 1889639)
Posted 13 Sep 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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I run 2 SETI@home tasks at once on my 750 Ti with -sbs 512 and I don't believe the total video memory used has reached 1GB.
I have not run Einstein tasks on my 750 yet. So I'm not sure about the memory usage there, since I noticed you also run that project.


Interesting, how do you config SETI@home to run two tasks at once on a single graphics card? Maybe that's all I need to do is set it to two for my existing card.


You'll need to create a cmdline file via notepad and saved as a text file (i.e. mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG). I'm running Lunatics so the name for your file will most likely be different. This is the cmdline that I've been running on my twin 750 Ti w/ 2 tasks each and .5 CPU, running under Lunatics, someone might have better settings -use_sleep -sbs 512 -spike_fft_thresh 2048 -tune 1 32 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 32 -oclfft_tune_cw 32 -hp
7) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Statistics for the WORLD? (Message 1888817)
Posted 9 Sep 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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I kind of liked this site back in the day and all I get is a black page or the page is not responding. does anyone know if the site is still active?
http://www.boincsynergy.com/stats/boinc-individual.php?cpid=a6b951444fe5f1bf12a5ea19e1a4b3b6
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1887634)
Posted 3 Sep 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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Control Panel -> system -> Advanced System Settings -> Hardware -> Device Installation Settings -- set to "NO"
Interesting as that is the way I've always blocked Windows from updating device drivers since I first installed Win 7 and it screwed up OpenCL.

I've always left that option enabled as disabling it stops new devices connected from the system from getting device drivers if they aren't already available on the system.

If I install new devices to my system, I've always loaded the drivers/software that came with the device, then went to its web site to pull down the latest software/drivers and installed it/them if necessary. I recently installed a new printer and instead of letting the OS install the basic drivers for it, I installed the software & drivers with the CD that came with the device. After I recycled the machine I went to the web site to see if there was any updates that were required to be done.

The only exception to that is when I've upgraded my GPUs, since I only install NVidia supported GPUs and I go to web site and pull down the latest driver for the upgraded GPU(s) and do an advanced/clean install after I insert them if the version I'm currently using is too low for the new GPU and recycle the machine. All of my drivers are at a greater version then what M$S calls for anyway. It's a few extra steps, but I think it's worth it and if something goes wrong I can't immediately lay the blame on M$S.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1887610)
Posted 3 Sep 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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All hardware updates are blocked with one click although it takes several to get there. (Control Panel -> system -> Advanced System Settings -> Hardware -> Device Installation Settings -- set to "NO" then "OK", then exit out and you don't have to worry abut device ids.

Prior to the Creators Update, blocking the device IDs was the only thing that worked for me. Using the Policy Editor I checked my settings, and that's where they're showing as blocking Device Driver updates through Windows Update. We'll see how that goes when the next update eventually rolls out- even then I've set the system to defer Updates, and only use the Business branch. Hopefully that gives them enough time to sort out any issues before I finally get any updates.

Interesting as that is the way I've always blocked Windows from updating device drivers since I first installed Win 7 and it screwed up OpenCL.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1887585)
Posted 2 Sep 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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I had video driver updates disabled with the policy editor. The driver version remained un-changed, but OpenCL just wouldn't work, so I had to re-enable video driver updates (the setting also blocked manual updates), re-installed the existing driver, and re-blocked video driver updates.
I might give the "Block all hardware driver updates" a go, as it's easier to set (don't have to copy all the device id numbers to block the particular hardware)


I believe that's your problem with having to reinstall the driver. The driver update provided by M$S doesn't include OpenCL. You should always install the drivers from the NVidia web site to ensure that you get everything. Instead of editing the policy, I disabled Hardware updates via the control panel. All hardware updates are blocked with one click although it takes several to get there. (Control Panel -> system -> Advanced System Settings -> Hardware -> Device Installation Settings -- set to "NO" then "OK", then exit out and you don't have to worry abut device ids. I'm sure there's a quicker way but I don't know all of the short cut key words and if you ask Cortana, it will send you to the web.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Off topic - Remember the Atari 2600? (Message 1887518)
Posted 2 Sep 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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For those of us that remember the Arari 2600 games check this out. http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/atari-2600-is-returning-as-a-handheld-console.html... I remember back when my stepson was 8 or so, we got it for him for Christmas and later had to buy him his own TV so that we could watch TV ourselves.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1887515)
Posted 2 Sep 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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I've had no issues with the Creators Update other than it clobbering my video driver- it remained un-changed, but I had to re-install it to get OpenCL to work again.

Grant - Do you have your system set up so that it does not update hardware device drivers? I have mine set to "NO" I've never had a problem with my NVidia drivers with that turned off. BTW, it will be here on the 17th with more bloatware then before. I wish M$S would allow desktop users who have Win 10 Pro installed to deselect 90% of the crap we don't use.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : User achievements thread......... (Message 1887419)
Posted 2 Sep 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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Great day in the morning, hit 80M sometime in the early hours today!! I wonder what the next 18 years will bring.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome to the 18 Year Club! (Message 1884989)
Posted 20 Aug 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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To all of my compatriots who joined in 1999, HAPPY 18th BIRTHDAY or HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, however you choose to call it, especially those that joined on 19 Aug !! 18 years and still going strong.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Network indicator for Win 7 and 10. (Message 1883562)
Posted 13 Aug 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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Verrry, verrry interesting! Neat little gadget, and it works on my Win 10 w/ autostart. I also stopped it from auto-closing after 5 seconds. It's a shame it is not an adjustable window though. I think I'll keep it.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (107) Server Problems? (Message 1882799)
Posted 9 Aug 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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I usually have a full queue on tap (100 CPU + 200 GPU) and I shot through all of it in less than 24 hrs., with the last one u/l'ed at 09:00 this morning. When I went to bed at @ 01:30 this morning BOINC TASKS said I had 1 day each of processing left in the queue for both the CPU & GPUs. When I got up @ 09:30 this morning, I did a manual update and nothing came back, the d/l buffers were empty. I just have to wait until I'm lucky enough to catch the d/l buffers when they have something in them. We need to up the max tasks for both CPU & GPU. I liked it better when we utilized the x number of days + x number of additional days for the queues.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1882200)
Posted 5 Aug 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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I remembered this when I read your post here. There is a way to circumvent the block Micro$oft put in place to block Win 7 and 8.1 on Kaby Lake and Ryzen.

I hope that this is not a moot point. ;)

Have a great day! :)

Siran


But I think that only works if you already have Win 7 installed on your machine.

I`m running win 7 on a Ryzen and its working perfectly


Lucky you, maybe at this point in time it's only affecting Intel processors.
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1882034)
Posted 4 Aug 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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I have 2 brand new Windows 7 Pro install discs I purchased a couple years ago that I'm saving for the next 2 machines I build when I get some extra cash. After that I hope enough people will be unhappy with M$ and switch to Linux based OS spurring releases of commonly used productivity software (ie Quicken/Quickbooks).

I currently have a HP Laptop that I converted to Ubuntu and I'm slowly learning(re-learning as I've had prior limited Unix command line experience). Just trying to teach a real old dog new tricks.



I'd be careful on your builds. M$ has reneged on their promise that newer CPUs will be allowed to support Win 7. When I built my i7/7700K that my wife got me for Father's Day, I attempted to do a clean install Win 7 Ultimate (x64) on a different physical drive and it was rejected. Somewhere in the very beginning of the process something on the chip told Windows that it was not supported and it aborted after I clicked "OK". I then successfully started Windows using the original system drive. Because the free upgrade of Win 10 Pro (x64) determined that the system was a new machine (CPU, mobo, mem sticks) I had to reactive the OS. Ran into problems again, as the reactivation was not accepted, even with numerous calls to M$ to resolve the problem. I ended up buying an install USB stick ($199 + tax USD), M$ doesn't use install disks any more, except for system builder versions, and was able to install and active my Win 10 Pro (x64). so be very careful that your new builds are at least below Kaby Lake.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows/x86 running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU (8.08 alt) (Message 1879661)
Posted 22 Jul 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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Now that 8.08 (alt) is on the main will we see a new beta version of Lunatics come out?
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel I7-7700. Any point in installing Lunatics? (Message 1879659)
Posted 22 Jul 2017 by Profile Cliff Harding
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I have one and I love it & Lunatics.


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