So there is zero @ home SETI or related action anymore/still?

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Message 2101600 - Posted: 20 Jun 2022, 6:09:08 UTC

I got wrapped up in work and hadn't participated in SETI@Home or Boinc for years. I'm glad I didn't buy a machine to get back into this before seeing it ended two years ago. This is heartbreaking. I understand it and I don't. I see everything they said, like the connection speeds aren't fast enough for the new phases etc., but it still is weird that it was larger computing power than they have in house, by crowdsourcing, but now it's useless.
What really surprises me is that there's nothing else that's sprung up for people jonesing to help analyze data to find evidence of ET life... data being dumped on the internet but with no dummy-friendly platform for people like me to analyze it with.
It's just... depressing and strange.
That there are oodles of people like me that want to run something to this end (even if it's just sometimes) and there isn't anything.
Or is there....?
Thank you.
P.S. If you look at this old profile, the Heretics of Dawn org was based on my group that intersected with the game Jumpgate Evolution that turned into vaporware. Jumpgate was way cool and Evolution just never happened. People chased and supported it like Star Citizen in total vain. I was super besmirched for giving up on my guild/nation after sending them all free T-shirts in the mail. But they all caught on it was dead eventually. Some crook kept the lie alive the die hard longest for donations to his fan site.
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Message 2101605 - Posted: 20 Jun 2022, 6:37:31 UTC

Some of us are waiting in the hope that Nebula will result in findings that will kick things off again with better tuned processes. ;-)

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Message 2101623 - Posted: 20 Jun 2022, 17:44:25 UTC - in response to Message 2101605.  

Thank you very much for pointing me in the right direction.
Wow okay, I see SETI's David Anderson posting directly in there. I remember him from a documentary or so.
I look forward to getting caught up on the topic.
My favorite experience was the original SETI@Home before Boinc. Perhaps it was because the whole concept of participation was new but, also, even though the latter screensaver was more sophisticated and 3D, the first gen graphics looked more like "official business" to me (the latter hovered to and fro like entertainment). But perhaps the latter was representing real data, more.

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Message 2101644 - Posted: 21 Jun 2022, 2:00:57 UTC - in response to Message 2101623.  
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Actually I wanted to update my thought but it was too late to edit the above.

I referred to a "Pre-BOINC" incarnation of SET@Home. As I read things to try to get caught back up, the literature suggests it always used BOINC. If this is true, then there's still some difference I'm remembering from my first experience with it versus the subsequent ones.
If BOINC was always the basis for the end-user sofware, then it must have just been a bit more packaged and incidental, in the beginning.

During most of the program, you'd download BOINC and then select SETI@Home as one of the many projects, which I did numerous times (even if I registered under more than one name or email). This is what most people probably think of.

But when I first participated in SET@Home, I remember merely downloading a package meant for it and installing it, never being aware of BOINC, and not needing to select SETI as a program (it was the default, like hardcoded that way). I'm not saying it was this way for very long, but I distinctly remember the experience as it different from the rest of them. It had me thinking it got "switched" to BOINC or changed platforms to the same end.

I guess it would make a good post to ask about separately.
I thought even the graphics changed, like the first one wasn't just a screensaver but ran up front, but even if that's my memories getting corrupted, the all-in-one download where I was not even aware of the BOINC platform where SETI@Home was a mere option -- that one I'd bet money on. Even if it means my old connections to the aerospace industry gave me an in to a beta version not widely distributed (?).
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Message 2101648 - Posted: 21 Jun 2022, 2:29:20 UTC - in response to Message 2101644.  
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Indeed, s@h was a stand-alone individual distributed computing project developed in the 1990's.

The success and interest in the project was a big surprise...

There is a lot of work involved in the server infrastructure needed to run a distributed computing project. A grant was gained to develop Boinc to make adding further projects easier. For a long time, s@h was the test bed and demonstrator for that.

Boinc + s@h were a big success and Boinc continues that success for a wide multitude of new projects.


Meanwhile, Nebula was developed to process the s@h database of results. I know that database would not fit on any of my home machines! Hence, the Atlas supercomputer cluster at Einstein@home is being used to work through the results.


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Message 2101649 - Posted: 21 Jun 2022, 3:24:46 UTC - in response to Message 2101648.  

Thanks. I saw Nebula was available on SourceForge (and I thought I saw where they put some SETI@Home and.or SERENDIP data available, as well?) but I wasn't yet personally aware of anyone running Nebula outside of the supercomputer. I wasn't sure how approachable it was from both a learning curve to get working (esp. with a degree in divinity, not computer science) and a rack (or room) of system requirements.
I'd be down for learning what I needed most if I thought I could afford the minimum system requirements. When I put my mind to do something like get an amateur radio license and build an amplifier I usually get it done.
When I move I wanted to use a small bit of the money buy a bit of computing power, I don't mine for cryptocurrency, and I'm much more interested in SETI than unrelated branches of research like medicine and biochemistry.

It's fun to be back in the rabbit hole. I've got a lot to catch up on. I never acquired much credit from spotty runtime to slow machines (although I did start out under a different ID when the initial excitement was the most for me).

Thanks for the sanity check; I knew I'd run SETI before getting BOINC, long ago, first.
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Message 2105275 - Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 13:29:39 UTC
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Hi Divmontru! *waves*

For something totally different now. How are things in the MMORPG world? Such a shame Jumpgate Evolution didn't get through..:(
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Message 2112271 - Posted: 30 Dec 2022, 17:03:21 UTC
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I find myself listening to "We Might Be Completely Alone in the Universe Featuring Fraser Cain" on YouTube channel Event Horizon and it' s gotten me to missing the project. I was only running for a little over a year but I miss it so much. I miss the excitement of one of us possibly finding something, I miss the friendly competition of different rig's speed at crunching numbers, I miss the tech talk and just overall miss SETI@home and I especially miss seeing all those work units ready and waiting like gifts under the Christmas tree. I've tried working on different project's but I just can't get into anything else...

Do you ever think we will come back?

I hope everyone is doing well and that you had a wonderful Christmas and New Year.

All of this has happened before and will happen again -Battlestar Galactica
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